1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Dodger Blue Dream Holiday Edition. I'm 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Richard Parks, and today on the show a little something different. 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Today's episode won't be about baseball. Instead, we're presenting to 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: you an episode of another podcast that I make or 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: have made over the years, that has a distinct holiday flavor, sour, fresh, crispy. 6 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: This is an episode of Richard's Famous Food podcast titled 7 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: Christmas Pickles. All about you guessed it. Christmas Pickles, pickle 8 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: shaped ornaments hidden in the bows of Christmas trees, the history, 9 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: the culture, the tradition, the mystery. Richard's Famous Food podcast 10 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: is a little different than Dodger Blue Dream. It's a 11 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: little different than any other podcast, which this episode no 12 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: doubt will prove. I hope you like it, and if 13 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: you do, there are plenty more episodes for you to 14 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: check out twenty some of them. Anyway, Just search for 15 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: Richard's Famous Food Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. Merry Christmas, 16 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: Happy Holidays, and I'll be talking to you soon in 17 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: the new year. It's Richard's Famous Food Podcast Christmas Pickles. 18 00:01:42,560 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: After the break, without further ado, we bring you Richard's 19 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: Famous Food podcast Christmas Pickles. 20 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: Where, oh where could this peackle be? When Christmas tide 21 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: approacheth near the Christmas peakler doth appear Peaklay. For when 22 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: Santa and his elves are outside a working Uncle Richie 23 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: hides a tiny little gerkin peaklery, shiny and bumpy and 24 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: peakley and green. When hanging in the tree, it's mighty 25 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: hard to be seen. So I'll hide the peaklay in 26 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: this tree. Oh but where should I hide it? 27 00:02:58,720 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: Here? 28 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: Or here? Yeah? 29 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: That's right. 30 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: A Christmas pickle? You never heard of it? 31 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: A Christmas pickle? 32 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: Would you like to get? Ready Christmas? 33 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: It's no what Christmas? 34 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 4: Let's go. 35 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 5: Every time. 36 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: Don't be shy. That's Richard's famous food. 37 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: Well they might sound made up, but Christmas pickles are real. 38 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: They're ornaments, mostly glass blown, made in Germany, where they 39 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: are known as why not In houses where the Christmas 40 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: pickle tradition is observed, the pickle is the last ornament 41 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: to be hung on the tree. Hidden, yes, hidden. It's 42 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: not something I made up for the purposes of my 43 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: gastro comedy podcast. 44 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: Anyways, whoever is lucky enough to find the Christmas pickle? 45 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: Naha, I mean. 46 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: Peaklay, peak clay, clay right, whatever, Who are you? 47 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm Richard. This is my podcast and I'm looking for 48 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: a hidden Christmas pickle. Oh delighted, I'm the one who 49 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: hear the peak lay. Will you help me find it? No, 50 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: but I will narrate. 51 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: This podcast for you, would cast wood guest, What if 52 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: we just did it together? Nah, I'm you, You're me, 53 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: except I rhyme in verse and you just don't you 54 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: see the show is so crazy anyways. 55 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, whoever finds it gets an extra gift or good 56 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: fortune for the new year. So on this special Christmas 57 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: edition of Richard's famous We're looking for a Christmas pickle, 58 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: peak Clay. It's my plan to find this pickle. I 59 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: can't see it right now. And in fact, even though 60 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: tons of people do this, and there's even a Christmas 61 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: Pickle Capital of the world. You know what, I didn't 62 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: know anything about this, that is until I started getting 63 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: Christmas pickles as gifts each Christmas the past several years. 64 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Among my gifts, a pickle ornament appears. And so, my 65 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: dear friends on very hang on, let me get the. 66 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 6: Hey yeah you out there, would you shut up? I'm 67 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 6: trying to record a rhyming Christmas pickle podcast here in 68 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 6: a British accents or something. 69 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: It's a scram anyways, Peaklay ornaments are hard to see, 70 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 2: the colored green, just like the tree the glass blown pickles. 71 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: They don't smell or reek, so you use your eyes 72 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: only for this fermented game of hide and seek peek 73 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: Lay ornaments. I have more than three given each year 74 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: as gifts to me by my closest friends and family. 75 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: And yet it's only now on this podcastory that I 76 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: asked them why they gave all these peak Lay ornaments 77 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: to me? 78 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 7: My friend? 79 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: Am I interrupting dinner time? No? Are there any baby 80 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: sleeping on? 81 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 6: Well? 82 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: Keep your voice down. Then, Hey, do you remember, maybe 83 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: it was a year or two ago you and Myra 84 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: sent me a Christmas gift an ornament. 85 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 8: I can't remember the ornament. 86 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: You can't even remember the ornament you sent me? What 87 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: kind of a friend? Are you? 88 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 5: Good one? 89 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: So do you remember what you thought when you saw it? 90 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,039 Speaker 1: I do? That is perfect. I have to get that 91 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: for Richard. 92 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 9: I immediately thought of you. 93 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: That's so Richard. 94 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 10: When I think about a pickle, the first thing I 95 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 10: think about is that looks delicious. I want to eat it. 96 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 10: And then the second thing I think about is Richard Parks. 97 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: Nah, if I only had a nickel for each and 98 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: every time I was compared to a pickle. But I 99 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: never bothered to ask them why I'm so like a pickl? 100 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: So why actually? Actually yeah, I've often wondered why too? 101 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: Why why why? 102 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: Why? 103 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: Why? Why? Why why? 104 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: Why? 105 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, for one, for years at Christmas feast, I've 106 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: clearly shown my love for a tiny vinegar pickle called 107 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: a corny. 108 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 11: Shown say it again, and I think about our holidays together. 109 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 11: I love that corny schan are part of that meal. 110 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 11: There are lots of people who do not have pickled 111 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 11: items at their Christmas dinner, and so it's a nod 112 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 11: to that. 113 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: And of course, as you all must know, I'm the 114 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: host of Richard's famous food podcast, Pickles Show. 115 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 9: That logo for your podcast is a pickle version of you. 116 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 11: The illustration that accompanies the food podcast. 117 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 10: RFFP, the logo, the pickle, it's the whole thing. 118 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: But there's just one more reason why a pickle ornament 119 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: gift is perfect for me myself and I Oh, because 120 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: you make pickles. 121 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 4: You are a master pickler, not just of cucumbers, but 122 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: of lots of other things. 123 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 10: You make a great pickle. You gave me many fermented things, 124 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 10: which I love well. 125 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 2: In fact, each holiday I give a spicy pickle away. 126 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: Oh no, was that a rhyme. 127 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 2: Your style is contagious. 128 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: Bruh. 129 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, those holiday peaks players, you'll learn to make. But first, 130 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: let's just take a little itty bitty break. 131 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: Brothers, sisters, and gender nonconforming siblings. Welcome to the Holy 132 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: Church of Lactic Acid Saints. As we prepare the feast 133 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: of the blood and Brine of our Lord and Savior. 134 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: We hope you'll take this opportunity to rate and review 135 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: us on iTunes, even if it's just smashing that five 136 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: star rating icon or leaving a single sentence review. Independent 137 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: gastro comedy podcast Places of Worship rely on crowdsourced engagement 138 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: from listeners like you, So just go ahead and log on. 139 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: As we pass the gilded. 140 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: Offertory, Ohio, stoneware croc and if you like, turn to 141 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: page four hundred and seventy two in your briny Bible 142 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: and join us in singing the Christmas pickle hymn. Joyful joyful, 143 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: We ferment. 144 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: The joyful, joyful week. 145 00:09:53,960 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: Soundly right court are less name. 146 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: Christmas name, and remember all are welcome at our altar 147 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: wherever you find yourself on your journey toward Briane. 148 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: Let's get back to the show. I may not know 149 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: how to ride a bicycle, but I do know how 150 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: to make a spicy holiday pikuru. You'll need several pounds 151 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: of spicy red peppers. Cain, red hobbin arrows. Holopanios are 152 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: fat plus ahead of. 153 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: Garlic per each pound of peppers. 154 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: Jump the peppers in the signal and use water to 155 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: clean them up good, and throw your garlic into a 156 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: mixing bowl and cover the bowl with the plate. Now shake, shake, 157 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: shake to remove those skins skin skins. 158 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: You want gloves for this next part. Using clean scissors, 159 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: snip the stems off the peppers, but leave the caps. 160 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: This will impart a perfumey flavor to your fermented hot sauce. 161 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: Perfew. 162 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: Now blend up your vegge and spoon the mash into a. 163 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 3: Clean ceramic crock. 164 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: Wait it all down with a plate or clean glass 165 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: mason jar filled with water so your solids are fully submerged. 166 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: Cover the crock with a plate and now wait. Check 167 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: on your pepper ad mixture. Once a day, stir it 168 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: and push it down with a spoon to keep it 169 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: all fully submerged. After several days to a week, or 170 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: whenever you like what you taste, you have a beautiful, fermented, 171 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: bright red Richard's famous hot sauce to share with friends 172 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: and family. 173 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: It's and now back to the Christmas peakless. 174 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: In my holiday pickles. I take great pride, but remember 175 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: this pickle ornament tail has quite another side For each 176 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: and every Christmas tide. On holiday trees, some their Christmas 177 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: peakley ornaments do hide? Does your family also play a 178 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: peak lay hiding game each holiday? 179 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of Richard's famous food podcast, 180 00:12:45,360 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: Christmas Pickles. Welcome back to the show. Today we're rebroadcasting 181 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: an episode of another podcast I make, Richard's famous food podcast, 182 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: an episode called Christmas Pickles. 183 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: Hello, Hi, Lease, This is my friend Elise. 184 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 5: Hi. How are you? Hello? 185 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 10: Hello? 186 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: And this is my friend Helen. 187 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 11: How are you? 188 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: Both grew up in pickle hiding households. 189 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 12: One year when I was a kid, a pickle ornament appeared. 190 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 5: I don't know who bought it. 191 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 13: My mom bought a pickle because she thought it was 192 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 13: funny and on the tag instead a thing about like 193 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 13: hiding the pickle as a game, And I think at 194 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 13: school I had heard that you could. 195 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 12: Like get another gift or something if you found pickle. 196 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: What exactly were the rules of the game. 197 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 12: You had to hide it somewhere on the Christmas tree, 198 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 12: so it could be sort of new or the trunk 199 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 12: and hidden. But you can also, once people got smarter, 200 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 12: figure out a way to shove it inside another ornament. 201 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 12: And some ornaments had like skirts, Like there was a 202 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 12: Santa with a big red velvet robe, and that was 203 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 12: the hardest place ever, because the pickle was actually up 204 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 12: the Santa's skirt and it was shoved in there so 205 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 12: tightly it wouldn't fall out. I don't think we actually 206 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 12: found that one that was the best one ever. 207 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: Do you know anything about the origins of the hidden 208 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: pickle thing? 209 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 11: No? 210 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 13: The only thing I've ever known is that it's a 211 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 13: German tradition that I wouldn't even swear to that in front. 212 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: Of a firing squad. Are you curious at all? 213 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 214 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 13: Sure? 215 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 5: Why do we do this? 216 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 12: Are you investigating this because your mascot is a pickle? 217 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: Would you like me to figure it out and report 218 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: back to you? 219 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 12: Yes, I most definitely would. 220 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: All right, first let's hit the commercial three two one, 221 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, so we all know Christmas is coming and 222 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: it's time to get your honey like another big bucket 223 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: of ham again or whatever, because you know, same old Honey, 224 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: same old ham. 225 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: Year after year. Do you think he really likes that? 226 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: No, what Honey really wants is some quality holiday tunage 227 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: in his collection. So we're happy to offer you this 228 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: limited addition compilation vine Gary Dix Spicy Pickled Carrol's, brought 229 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: to you by Richard's Famous. It's a fantastic holiday album. 230 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: I have to say. 231 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: It's got ferment friendly remakes of all your holiday favorites. 232 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: It's got like Little Town of Girkingham, Silverdill's, Oh I 233 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: love that one, Rudolph the Red Nose Pickle of course, 234 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: away in a crock pot, silent pickle. Look, you know them, 235 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: you love them, I love them, Honey loves them. But 236 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: Honey has never heard them like this fermented call in 237 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: order yours today. It's three two three eight one food four. 238 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: That's our hotline again, three two three eight one food 239 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: four or tweet to us at Richard's Famous and yeah, 240 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: get some briny holiday tunage in your life. All right, 241 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: let's get back to the show. 242 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: And that's at my dear friend's request, I begin a 243 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: Christmas peaklay ornament origins quest Ah. My first choice for 244 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: any pickle related chat would have to be the world's 245 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: reigning peakley expert, a man named Sandor Cats. Sandor's peakl 246 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: ay credentials are surely unmatched. He wrote the book The 247 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: Art of Fermentation and gives peaklay talks all across the nation. 248 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: My friends and I all agree Sandor Cats must hang 249 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: a peak lay in his Christmas tree. 250 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 12: I mean, do you think Sander Catz does this? 251 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: I think that I should definitely try to get him 252 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: on the line. Hello, Hi, is this sand Or Cats? 253 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: If it is, hey, it's Richard Parks. 254 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 9: Rich going okay, I am recording and I see lots 255 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 9: of lights lighting up. 256 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of a culture that has some 257 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: kind of tradition around hiding pickles? 258 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 9: No, I am not aware of any traditions of hiding pickles. Anyways, 259 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 9: sounds cute. 260 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: Have you found any connections between Christian celebrations of Christmas 261 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: and fermented things? 262 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 9: I mean, I do not know of any you know, 263 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 9: Christmas traditions that involve pickles. Were pickles part of your celebration? 264 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: Actually? Yes, like a Christmas time corny Shan. 265 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 9: I have been a lifelong lover of Corny Shan as well. 266 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 9: But you know, I mean, I'm a Jew, and I 267 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 9: have limited knowledge of Christmas traditions. 268 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: And here sand Orcat's proffers to me an intriguing possible 269 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: origin story, one that reaches back to Jewish antiquity. 270 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 14: Well, I mean, the first thing that I think of 271 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 14: is it reminds me of a Jewish tradition on Passover 272 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 14: where you hide the afi comen, which is basically a 273 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 14: napkin with a piece of matza inside. 274 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 9: The oldest person you know, hides the afi comen and 275 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 9: then the kids try to find it, and whoever finds 276 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 9: it gets, you know, some sort of promise. 277 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 2: Could it be the ornament in that Christmas tree? An 278 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 2: afi comen remix? Be before we say for sure, the 279 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: Christmas peak a capital of the world should get a 280 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: call from me. But first, actually, you know what, I'm 281 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 2: going to ask my British friend what he thinks. Okay, Nah, 282 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: why don't you just ask me? Because you're just me 283 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: doing a weird kind of British accent. Really well, I 284 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 2: am the one that he the peak. 285 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 3: You mean the peak lay, yes, peak. 286 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: Maybe you're not the only one who knows where it is. 287 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: Maybe other British people know too. I want to talk 288 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: to a real British person. 289 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 7: My name is Russell Quinn. I am British. 290 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: See a real brit very well. 291 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, And we eat a lots of pickled onions. 292 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 3: Why do I bring up pickled onions? Why does anybody 293 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 3: do anything? 294 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 2: Actually, there might be a British link between the Christmas 295 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: peak lay and onions that are traditionally consumed on Boxing Day, 296 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: the day after Christmas. 297 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 7: Eating the leftover us on Boxing Day without pickled onions 298 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 7: would be a crime. 299 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen a pickled onion ornament? 300 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 7: I don't think so. 301 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: Oh well, anyways, before we continue on this Christmas peak, 302 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: let search first. Let's take a little listen to what 303 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: they're singing in this here church by. 304 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 4: The Sive Rimas TuS palism Sive Christmas Pisarys. 305 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: Dear Lord, I pray that I find this pickle ornament 306 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: somewhere by the end of this podcast. I promise to 307 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: be good next year. 308 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: Amen. And now back to the show. 309 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: In Weston, Michigan. There is a town nah to Christmas 310 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: pikle fans of much renown for lovers of yule tied 311 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: fermented things. Mecca's a place called Baryon Springs. I short 312 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: hope I'll be able to find the Christmas pickle. 313 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 12: There history center. 314 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 8: This is Kelsey. 315 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: I may help you, Hi, Kelsey, I've read that bury 316 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: In Springs is the Christmas pickle capital of the world. 317 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: Is that true? 318 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 8: It's postly hier agricultural path. We had a pickle factory 319 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 8: in the area and a lot of farmers grew a 320 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 8: product that later became pickles. We used to have a 321 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 8: pickle festival in the nineties. 322 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: Did you go to the pickle festival? 323 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeh? 324 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: Can you describe it? 325 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 8: Pop of pickles everywhere? I remember there was a parade 326 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 8: pickle costume. 327 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 1: So when you say there were pickles everywhere, are they 328 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: like festooned publicly? About? 329 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 8: Maybe cardboard cutouts of pickles windows? Like maybe someone gave 330 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 8: us pickles? 331 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: Do you like pickles only phil pickles? Like a full 332 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: sour half sour? 333 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 8: Probably fuller? 334 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: But where, oh where could the peakle origins be? They're 335 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: as elusive as that ornament in that tree. 336 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 8: We have a lot of German immigrants in this area. 337 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 8: On a lot of the packaging, it says it's German tradition, 338 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 8: but I can't verify that. 339 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: Two different stories are told about the German origins of 340 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: the Christmas pickles or One says that during the Civil War, 341 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: a Union private named John C. Lauer, who was born 342 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: in Bavaria now Germany Yaganaul, was captured by rebel soldiers 343 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: and taken prisoner. On Christmas Eve eighteen sixty four. Private 344 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: Laer was on the brink of starvation when he begged 345 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: a guard to at least feed him a pickle. 346 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: My good man, just a pickle please. 347 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 3: The guard gave in. 348 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: All right, little Pela. Here's a feeding. 349 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 1: Private Lauer a pickle that saved his life. Another story 350 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: says Saint Nicholas himself saved two Spanish children. 351 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: Who were trapped in a barrel of pickles by an innkey. 352 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: Santa you come to save hello, Yes, I'm here for 353 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: save you. 354 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: But it's unclear how this tradition made it to America. 355 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: Starting in the nineteenth century, glass blown German ornaments have 356 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: been sold here, including of course, the Christmas picklesay Christmas 357 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: pickles are more prevalent here than anywhere. In fact, the 358 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: New York Times found that nine in ten Germans had 359 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: never even heard of the weinach Gurka, never heard of it. 360 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: And nowhere is this tradition more popular than in the 361 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: Christmas pickle capital of the world, Bury in Springs. But 362 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: you know what, you know what, you know what, you 363 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: know what never occurred to me until just now that 364 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: hanging a pickle in a Christmas tree is kind of 365 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: a strange idea, Right, Is there any part of you 366 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: that's like this is a little weird? 367 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: Now? 368 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: Could I send you my podcast logo? 369 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 8: Sure? 370 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: Okay, that's my podcast logos? Great, thank you. It's me 371 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: as a pickle. 372 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 8: Okay. 373 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: Anyways, is there anybody in town who you would recommend 374 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: that I speak to? Maybe like an old timer Dick Shinkle. 375 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 8: He was one of the key drivers in getting the 376 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 8: festival started. 377 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: Dick Shinkle. M hm, can you put me in touch 378 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: with him? 379 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 6: Yep? 380 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: His number is two six nine, Oh, Richard Dick Shinkle. 381 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm Richard Parks is my name? 382 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 5: Okay? 383 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: Couple of Richards? 384 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: And who better to solve this Christmas peakle history wrinkle 385 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: than an old time of from Christmas Peakl city called 386 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: dick Shinkle. 387 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: What would you say to someone who looked at this 388 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: and says that's kind of weird? 389 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: In Germany, Schenklay tells a plausible story that why not 390 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: Girka does come from Germany. 391 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 5: Many of the German people don't remember it that we 392 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 5: have Foullen from there too. 393 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: And today pea clays are hung on every tree in 394 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: this mythic land called Baryon Springs. 395 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 5: I played Santa Claus here because I have a white hair. 396 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 5: The white hair, so why do to the kids? I say, 397 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 5: your miss is gone? 398 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 7: This morning? 399 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 5: Told Santa that he was getting too fan. So this 400 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 5: Sanda tell the kids to put a kil pickle on 401 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 5: my plate instead of a cookie. 402 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 2: That's right, instead of a cookie. In Buryan Springs, Santa 403 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: gets a Peaklay. And to this day we must credit 404 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: Shinklay for keeping the spirit alive in Christmas Peakley today. 405 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: Is there anybody else in town you think I should 406 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: talk to? 407 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 5: I don't think they're alive anymore. 408 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: Fortunately, I'm sorry, Well, thank you for talking to me. 409 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: So long as Hinkley is around for the Christmas Peakley, 410 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: we should have no fear. But who will carry on 411 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: the tradition in the coming years. 412 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: Anyways, Yeah, we may not know where the Christmas pickle 413 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: tradition comes from, but we do know that the pickle 414 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: is still hiding. 415 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: Somewhere around here in this tree peak. Lay, let's see, 416 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 2: is it there or. 417 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: There? 418 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 9: Oh? 419 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: Wait, there it is. 420 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: Oh my, that that's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. 421 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: You found me. 422 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: Congratulations na ha ha he was there all alone. But 423 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: so what's my special present? Well, why don't we sing 424 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: a holiday piker song? Yes, everybody knows Silver Dill's. 425 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 7: Is read. 426 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: Found Shady. 427 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 3: I'm so glad I met you, guys. 428 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: It was an absolute pleasure. Happy Christmas, and now favoom 429 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: to the moon. 430 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: It's so beautiful. 431 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 4: It's Richard's famous food poodcast. 432 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 10: There it was. 433 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: I hope you enjoyed it. 434 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm Richard Parks, wishing you a very happy Christmas, joyous holidays, 435 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: and a peaceful new year. I'll talk to you again 436 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six.