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Speaker 1: It is Monday, January seventh, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, episode
Speaker 1: number one oh eight. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We are live from the s WBC Morgan Studios at
Speaker 1: the Star and we got an hour with you guys today.
Speaker 1: We're gonna break down this Cowboys big win for a
Speaker 1: full hour, well about fifty seven. Are we doing an
Speaker 1: hour for the playoffs? Now? No, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 1: just Monday. It's just Monday. That's what we do on Mondays.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the Cowboys big win. Cowboys get the win,
Speaker 1: their first playoff win of the postseason this year. Hopefully
Speaker 1: that continues a win and beat the Seattle Seahawks twenty
Speaker 1: four twenty two in a game that although the score
Speaker 1: was really close, I don't know that the game was
Speaker 1: as close as that. Towards the end, I kind of
Speaker 1: felt at the end like, okay, Cowboys kind of had
Speaker 1: this half control of this game. Got a little nervous
Speaker 1: there for a second, but pretty much the Cowboys played
Speaker 1: the kind of game that they need to play. Let's
Speaker 1: go around the table. Let's get some big picture views
Speaker 1: of what your thoughts are coming out of this game.
Speaker 1: This game, Dave, let's start with you all, Oh boy,
Speaker 1: put me on the spot. Um that that, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the blueprint right there, isn't it? Like everything that
Speaker 1: this team does well and needs to do well in
Speaker 1: order to win games. That's what they did. Um kinda
Speaker 1: kind of soured on how I don't know how bad
Speaker 1: they were on defense at the end there. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, to give up such an easy drive after
Speaker 1: being so dominant, I mean, if they if they play
Speaker 1: on their screws that last possession, you're talking about Seattle
Speaker 1: probably having less than two hundred and fifty yards of offense.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. M so sucks that, you know, just a
Speaker 1: just an uncharacteristic break and coverage on the Tyler Lockett
Speaker 1: play to get him down into the red zone. But
Speaker 1: other than that, the defense was dominant. They were physical.
Speaker 1: The run game was clicking, and then Dak was Dak
Speaker 1: love him or hate him, he shows up when when
Speaker 1: it's crunch time and makes a play and he gets
Speaker 1: he gets his first playoff wins. So that's I mean,
Speaker 1: the run game, the quarterback being clutch in spite of
Speaker 1: his wortz, and the I mean, I can't say enough
Speaker 1: about the defense. Even even with this is my favorite stat,
Speaker 1: even with the seventy five yard touchdown drive at the
Speaker 1: end of the game, Seattle did not crack three hundred
Speaker 1: yards of offense. That's crazy. Uh So there, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: it amber well as far as the offense goes. When
Speaker 1: this game started, I was pretty excited by what I
Speaker 1: was seeing, the fact that they were getting a lot
Speaker 1: of guys involved in the game and he was working out. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the Alan Hearn's injury happened and then he kind of
Speaker 1: died down a little bit. But I thought that they
Speaker 1: did a nice job just kind of getting the running game,
Speaker 1: the passing game, allowing Dad to run a few times.
Speaker 1: I think that worked out well. They were able to
Speaker 1: move the ball, and that hasn't necessarily been the problems
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys moving the ball is just once they
Speaker 1: get into that red zone area that it becomes a problem.
Speaker 1: But again, the defense at the beginning of the game,
Speaker 1: the way they were able to hold down the Seattle
Speaker 1: offense and Russell Wilson, to me, that was amazing. That
Speaker 1: it wasn't a great game towards the end of the game,
Speaker 1: but as far as how it started out, they did
Speaker 1: more than enough. And that's the kind of balance you
Speaker 1: want on your team. How a defense to be able
Speaker 1: to do that? And then how long into the game
Speaker 1: did it take the Seahawks to get their first first down,
Speaker 1: like fourth possession, that's insane. First three possessions with three
Speaker 1: and out, that's awesome. Yeah, sorry, amazing, No, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the defense started kind of slowing down a
Speaker 1: little bit towards the end, allowing some big plays. But overall,
Speaker 1: when you get that kind of balance from your offense
Speaker 1: as well, that's what makes the game great and that's
Speaker 1: why gets you those kinds of wins. Nick Um, I
Speaker 1: just thought the defense was amazing. Uh really throughout the game.
Speaker 1: I mean every time that that it seemed like the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were struggling on offense or put them in a
Speaker 1: bad situation, they still they they managed to get out
Speaker 1: of it. I know that they had a short field
Speaker 1: a couple of times on long kickoff return and you
Speaker 1: know they don't score anything off of that. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they just never buckled. And after that interception in the
Speaker 1: past that Noah Brown, you know, here they are, there's
Speaker 1: there's Seattle's got the momentum and the Cowboys push them backwards.
Speaker 1: Penalties you know, heard them, but still, I mean they
Speaker 1: went backwards there, and so I thought every time they
Speaker 1: were the offense was kind of struggling, the defense picked
Speaker 1: them up. It's like they've done all year long and
Speaker 1: then put them in a position and then dak and
Speaker 1: seek go and win it. But it's the defense that
Speaker 1: they did it again. Yeah, that's which I guess. That's
Speaker 1: kind of my point. I remember and not you know, Twitter,
Speaker 1: you're and I do it too. You're you're just firing
Speaker 1: off your thoughts and moment You're not most people aren't
Speaker 1: taking the time to really think about it. But many
Speaker 1: people were like mad about what that game looked like
Speaker 1: as it was going, you know, like, well it shouldn't
Speaker 1: have been that close, Like well, probably not, but like
Speaker 1: that's this team, Like that's that's what you should expect
Speaker 1: from this team by now that like that's the blueprint
Speaker 1: for success, and that's what all of their games are
Speaker 1: probably going to have to look like, whether the season
Speaker 1: ends on Saturday or they go all the way to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Like the defense carries the load, the
Speaker 1: running game has to click for the offense to have success.
Speaker 1: They're probably they're they're not going to hit on all cylinders.
Speaker 1: They haven't really have they hit on cylind all cylinders
Speaker 1: across the board offense and defense. Once this season, there
Speaker 1: you go again, Jacksonville's Jacksonville against the team that won
Speaker 1: four or five games and quit on their coach in November.
Speaker 1: So it's probably not going to happen, is my point.
Speaker 1: And so maybe it was. It wasn't even ugly, but
Speaker 1: you get my point. It's this is a gritty defense, first,
Speaker 1: grind it out, inconsistent team, and that's how they're going
Speaker 1: to games. And it worked pretty much perfectly on Saturday.
Speaker 1: It was funny everybody that was complaining about what that
Speaker 1: game looked like it's bad football, Like, well wait till Sunday.
Speaker 1: I mean, I see get to Sunday. And if you
Speaker 1: think that's bad, I don't think playoff football is bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what playoff football, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, it comes down to it. I mean, yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: field goals matter and sometimes you miss them. You know,
Speaker 1: even though you hit everything in the world, you still
Speaker 1: miss a field goal. Not only that, but if you
Speaker 1: notice what you saw in playoff football, and this is
Speaker 1: not just this year, it's many years, what you see
Speaker 1: a lot of times is that teams kind of fiel
Speaker 1: each out each other out early and the game kind
Speaker 1: of stays low scoring there early, and then teams start
Speaker 1: kind of getting going and you'll see more scoring as
Speaker 1: the game goes on third and fourth quarter, as you
Speaker 1: saw that in a few games this weekend. But I
Speaker 1: think that's the thing you have to remember. Here is
Speaker 1: and we talked about this a lot last week. This
Speaker 1: defense that the Cowboys were playing, this was not some
Speaker 1: cupcake defense, like they got players too. And the same
Speaker 1: things you say about the Cowboys and where they have strengths,
Speaker 1: those are the same kind of strengths that they were
Speaker 1: facing in that Seattle defense. They got linebackers, they can
Speaker 1: run side to side, and Nick I remember us talking
Speaker 1: during the game like you're not gonna run wide on them.
Speaker 1: Very often because those linebackers can get there, They're not
Speaker 1: gonna give you much there. They got a secondary that
Speaker 1: does what it needs to do when they got some
Speaker 1: studs up there in the front. So I mean that
Speaker 1: defense is a formidable defense. So I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know if I necessarily was thinking cowboys are squandering opportunitiess
Speaker 1: much as I was thinking right now, this is a
Speaker 1: defensive struggle and the Cowboys are gonna have to figure
Speaker 1: out ways to manufacture points one percent and that. You know,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I get it. It's the heat of
Speaker 1: the moment. You're you're invested. But I'm like, why why
Speaker 1: are you frustrated? This is how it's been all year?
Speaker 1: And yeah, those guys get paid too. You're just not
Speaker 1: magically gonna score forty points in tough escape of the year.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right, let's talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: dak Prescott specifically. I was about to talk about dak
Speaker 1: and I thought he might Dakota look at some of us.
Speaker 1: His stat line he was twenty two to thirty three,
Speaker 1: sixty seven percent completion rate, two hundred and twenty six
Speaker 1: yards a touchdown an interception. Quarterback rating is eighty three
Speaker 1: point six not great, but I thought the point that
Speaker 1: was most important, most interesting to me was hit six
Speaker 1: curios for twenty nine yards including the touchdown, and that
Speaker 1: that run that he the sixteen yard run that got
Speaker 1: them down close uh there on. I guess it would
Speaker 1: be first in gold there at the one that to
Speaker 1: me was the play of the game offensively, because that's
Speaker 1: how the Cowboys had have to win if they're gonna win.
Speaker 1: That's what Zeke's talking about. He's talking about that play
Speaker 1: when he called him a grown ass man, because that's
Speaker 1: that's what that was. I mean, that was just it
Speaker 1: reminded me, honestly of Marion Barber sometimes of like I'm
Speaker 1: here and I need to get to there, and I
Speaker 1: don't give a crap who's in my way. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just run over people or run through you or flip
Speaker 1: around or I don't care. I'm gonna I gotta get
Speaker 1: over there. And that's what he does. He figures it out.
Speaker 1: He figures things out. First pass, I'm gonna throw it
Speaker 1: to gallop, I hit somebody in the suites. Second time,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do the exact same thing. We're gonna throw
Speaker 1: a touchdown. He just figures it out, which could have
Speaker 1: been really bad. He missed that again, Oh everybody would
Speaker 1: be talking crap. I was like, why would you do
Speaker 1: that except for those two guys in the suite or
Speaker 1: whoever caught it. I mean, the first though was horriball.
Speaker 1: It was it throws once and you know the fade
Speaker 1: and the back shoulder ball. Not that that was a
Speaker 1: back shoulder ball, but those balls haven't been there for
Speaker 1: him for most of the last two seasons. Round was bad.
Speaker 1: To dust it off in the playoffs and have it
Speaker 1: drop in there perfectly. It was pretty funny. But the
Speaker 1: one thing I will say about the past that was
Speaker 1: incomplete there. I don't know if you guys saw, but
Speaker 1: Brian wrote an article this morning. He was talking about that.
Speaker 1: He said, what he saw back on the film study
Speaker 1: was that actually they were trying to go to Jarwin
Speaker 1: and they actually had Cole trying to pick the linebacker
Speaker 1: I think was kJ Wright in order to get Jarwin open.
Speaker 1: That didn't happen. He went around Beasley so stayed with Jarwin.
Speaker 1: So when Dak saw Jarwin wasn't open, he just basically
Speaker 1: took a shot down field, and that's how you end
Speaker 1: up with that play and that result. So in that circumstance,
Speaker 1: I'm a little because I was. I was one of
Speaker 1: the people that I I was like, why would you do
Speaker 1: that on third and two? There's no reason to do
Speaker 1: that on third and two. But when you see it
Speaker 1: from that perspective, maybe the thought was that that was
Speaker 1: a play they felt pretty good was going to be
Speaker 1: opening there. It wasn't, and he just took a shot.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, and that and that's the difference. His shots
Speaker 1: aren't very good because his shots he doesn't give his
Speaker 1: receivers a chance. All the time he's been it's been
Speaker 1: like trained in his head, don't throw an interception, so
Speaker 1: so try to throw it, you know, away and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. And some of the passes are just too
Speaker 1: far away. But the interception he threw to north Brown,
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, that one is on him. I
Speaker 1: mean because Noah Brown is running free from the linebacker.
Speaker 1: He got a lot of space out there and he
Speaker 1: just didn't get it out there. And yeah, it looked
Speaker 1: like it was interference. But Cooper will get that call.
Speaker 1: He did get that call. Beasley and Gallop get that call.
Speaker 1: No One Brown is not going to get it. And
Speaker 1: it's just it's just a bank bank play and the guy, man,
Speaker 1: you know what, at the end of the game, he
Speaker 1: did so much throughout the game that the end of it,
Speaker 1: when I was looking at the stat I had completely
Speaker 1: forgotten that he threw an interception. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy he was like, you want to put him
Speaker 1: through And overall he threw a red zone pick. He did,
Speaker 1: he did, you can and that will that's fortunately worked out.
Speaker 1: That is well, no, but that's that's Dak Prescott, and
Speaker 1: that's it frustrates me that people try to like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's gotta be one or the other. It can't
Speaker 1: be everything, like he'll throw that ball. Accuracy is not
Speaker 1: his forte and consistency with his mechanics and reading things like,
Speaker 1: all of those are valid criticisms. But third and fourteen,
Speaker 1: with the divisional round on the line, he's just gonna
Speaker 1: bowl his way to the end zone and say, kiss
Speaker 1: my butt, y'all are going home, And and then his
Speaker 1: whole team is going to mob him on the sideline
Speaker 1: and five time all pro Zach Martin is going to say,
Speaker 1: there's nobody else I'd rather have as my quarterback. And
Speaker 1: if you don't think that's important. You're dumb. Sorry, it's so.
Speaker 1: It's everything. He's got a lot of he's got a
Speaker 1: lot of developing to do as a passer. But he
Speaker 1: is a hell of a clutch dude and makes plays
Speaker 1: a plenty for all of his shortcomings. Yeah, so all right,
Speaker 1: let's let's move on. Let's talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Zeke Elliott. His stat
Speaker 1: line twenty six carries for one hundred and thirty seven yards,
Speaker 1: five point three average, and a touchdown. He also had
Speaker 1: four receptions for thirty two yards. And I thought the
Speaker 1: most interesting thing here was not just how well he played,
Speaker 1: but how well this offensive line played. Overall. You look
Speaker 1: at the offensive line, they only allowed one sack, which
Speaker 1: for this team is a huge improvement. They were regularly
Speaker 1: giving up four or five sacks per game. Dak only
Speaker 1: got hit four times, and then they were able to
Speaker 1: allow the Cowboys to rush as a team for one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four yards with a four point eight average.
Speaker 1: Talk about the offensive line and how they performed, particularly
Speaker 1: with Connor Williams in the game. We talked a lot
Speaker 1: last week about the challenges there and what this could
Speaker 1: mean for him as far as having to go up
Speaker 1: against a pretty stout Seattle front, what do you think
Speaker 1: of this offensive line? Well, I thought that, like you said,
Speaker 1: everything there, I mean, they didn't they didn't give up sacks.
Speaker 1: He didn't really get hit. They kept him off balance.
Speaker 1: They were balanced. That was the key. I mean, they
Speaker 1: were able to run when they needed to, they were
Speaker 1: able to pass um. That's that was kind of the
Speaker 1: what the blueprint of this team is. And and I
Speaker 1: thought Zeke, you know, he really did a nice job
Speaker 1: all game, kind of taking what was there, kind of
Speaker 1: dipping underneath some some things. He just he gets so
Speaker 1: many I hate to sound like Garrett, he gets so
Speaker 1: many dirty yards though, that's what he does. And then
Speaker 1: every every once in a while he can go back
Speaker 1: to high school and just like, well I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: bounce it to the outside and just go for forty
Speaker 1: five yards. There was nobody there in high school. He
Speaker 1: probably scored, but you know, he still though, you don't
Speaker 1: really get to do that in the NFL that much.
Speaker 1: So all in all, I thought he was great. I
Speaker 1: thought the line was better probably the no, the best
Speaker 1: game that the line has played all year. Probably, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, especially against that front. Dak had a clean pocket,
Speaker 1: and we knew they could run because this same line
Speaker 1: opened it up for one twenty seven in Seattle. So
Speaker 1: I had a feeling they'd be able to run. But
Speaker 1: Dak had a clean pocket. More often than not. He
Speaker 1: got sacked once. And if you go back back and look,
Speaker 1: it was a stunt, which so you know, Connor Williams
Speaker 1: is a rookie who hasn't played in six weeks. You know,
Speaker 1: you never want to excuse it, but you know, it's
Speaker 1: not like guys were just getting beat head up. They
Speaker 1: ran a stunt to free a rusher up and that's
Speaker 1: how they got him. And other than that, like I said,
Speaker 1: it wasn't just that he didn't get sacked four hits
Speaker 1: so and what thirty two attempts? Yea, so four times
Speaker 1: and thirty two attempts that that they got to him.
Speaker 1: I thought he had a remarkably clean pocket. You know,
Speaker 1: Frank Clark gave tire in trouble in Seattle. I didn't
Speaker 1: really see that this time around. I thought they were
Speaker 1: great and him again, what one hundred and sixty four
Speaker 1: yards as a team, And that's it's cliche. And I
Speaker 1: know Seahawks the Seahawks fan base is killing Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: right now and rightfully so in my opie, which but
Speaker 1: it's hard because there's a fine line between you want
Speaker 1: to establish the run and the Cowboys showed exactly why,
Speaker 1: like yeah, like Zeke wasn't gashing them by any stretch
Speaker 1: of the imagination. But five six, seven minutes left in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter you start seeing things that would have
Speaker 1: gone for three yards go for nine yards, and that matters.
Speaker 1: So I get why teams want to establish the run,
Speaker 1: but if I was Seattle, I would have given up
Speaker 1: on it way sooner than they did. Not to go
Speaker 1: too far into Ram's talk, which we were doing later
Speaker 1: in the week, but do you think at this point
Speaker 1: Connor Williams has made a good argument as to why,
Speaker 1: regardless of what the status health wise, Sue Philo might be,
Speaker 1: that he should be the guy that starts this week. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's made a good argument. We'll take that argument. Put
Speaker 1: it right. Thank you for your argument. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: you're you're making a good argument. I'm glad. Argue glad
Speaker 1: it's not just simple, you know it sounds like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a great argument, son. Yeah, Now I could
Speaker 1: see why you would like to stay out till two.
Speaker 1: I get it, it's still midnight. I'm not there yet.
Speaker 1: You're getting there, but um no, I mean I just
Speaker 1: think Sue Philo's better, and I just I want him
Speaker 1: out there for Sue and Donald. That's what that's which.
Speaker 1: This is going to sound defeatist, and I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: like does it matter? Does it matter? This Air and Donald?
Speaker 1: I mean, so Sue Philo is more, is stronger, but
Speaker 1: Connor is probably more athletic. Donald's both like he's just
Speaker 1: a super strong, super fast freak. He's got twenty sacks
Speaker 1: from a tackle spot. I mean, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know that I will say this why they get
Speaker 1: when we when we saw so a Philo have his
Speaker 1: first I think it was in his first start, played
Speaker 1: really well against Fletcher Cox. Fletcher Cox, who is probably
Speaker 1: second or third best defensive Wich. Aaron Donald's on a
Speaker 1: whole different level than anybody else. Fletcher Cox is overpoweringly strong.
Speaker 1: I don't think of him as being particularly quick. Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald moves like an end even though he's five ten,
Speaker 1: and sometimes he lines up at it. Yeah, so you're right,
Speaker 1: I mean, if I mean, if it was pure power.
Speaker 1: I like the thought of Xavier Suahilo working against Sue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Aaron Donald's so fast. Well, let's wait and see
Speaker 1: how that ankle is doing first. Well that's a good point,
Speaker 1: that is, Yeah, you really want him at one hundred percent, right,
Speaker 1: You don't even want to take a guy at eighty
Speaker 1: percent against this guy because he will embarrass you on
Speaker 1: the great the amazing thing that this Olne has been
Speaker 1: able to do and especially this game, like I didn't
Speaker 1: notice anything, and I don't notice anything. That's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Like no, I'm saying on the other line, because then
Speaker 1: you're not Also penalties. That was another thing that they
Speaker 1: were able to Yeah, pretty how many do they have?
Speaker 1: They there were a couple though weren't there from the
Speaker 1: offensive line. But what we were used seeing, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it wasn't anything close to what we've been
Speaker 1: seeing in recent times, I guess, yeah, which was good.
Speaker 1: So and another thing considering all the guys that they've
Speaker 1: been getting out and in like changing and switching around
Speaker 1: in the old line because of guys getting hurt and
Speaker 1: the fact that they've been able to maintain it. And
Speaker 1: although Dak yes we've seen him getting hit plenty of
Speaker 1: time this season, but to see where they're at right
Speaker 1: now and what they've accomplished so far, I'm pretty proud
Speaker 1: of that group. Yeah. I think I think it was
Speaker 1: time well used to put to give Zeke I'm sorry, yeah, Zeke,
Speaker 1: Tyring and and Zach all time off last week because
Speaker 1: I think that Zeke, to me, he looked and you know,
Speaker 1: I talked about this in the Prescott box during the game.
Speaker 1: He looked a little quicker to me than he had
Speaker 1: looked down the stretch of the season. I think it
Speaker 1: makes a big difference, especially for a running back who
Speaker 1: takes hits almost every play, to be able to give
Speaker 1: him a week, to be able to get his legs back,
Speaker 1: to be able to not be hit for a week,
Speaker 1: I think that makes a difference. And I think those
Speaker 1: three guys played like they'd had a little bit of
Speaker 1: time to rest. Yeah, And I mean I think the
Speaker 1: being in the playoffs, you know, it will help with
Speaker 1: that as well. And that the atmosphere. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're going to get into that at all, you know,
Speaker 1: but I think one thing that probably needs to be
Speaker 1: you know, just put way aside and it is really over,
Speaker 1: is that at and T Stadium is not a great
Speaker 1: place to play as it's not a home field advantage.
Speaker 1: Because it is a home field advantage for this team,
Speaker 1: that crowd deserves a lot of praise for what they
Speaker 1: were able to do, the whole production of everything, you know,
Speaker 1: the wide out and all that. I was a little
Speaker 1: skeptical of that. It looked like a college you know
Speaker 1: type of thing. It was, whatever it was, they were great.
Speaker 1: They've been great at home all year long. And you
Speaker 1: know you pointed out yesterday on Twitter, I mean, the
Speaker 1: only team to win at home this weekend. I just
Speaker 1: think it was it Pete Carroll that said this, it's
Speaker 1: almost like a concert over there. It's not really he said.
Speaker 1: What he said was he said, it's interesting because you
Speaker 1: come out of locker room and you feel like you're
Speaker 1: out of state and about to play football game. Then
Speaker 1: you go through the club and he's talking about literally
Speaker 1: the club, but he was talking about the actual like nightclub.
Speaker 1: He said, you go through there and then you're like,
Speaker 1: am I at a football game? And then you go
Speaker 1: out of there and you're back in a football environment.
Speaker 1: So you say, it's just kind of different. It's it's
Speaker 1: a different environments definitely different. It has it's taken a
Speaker 1: while to get there. I mean it's this crowd hasn't
Speaker 1: always been a great, great crowd, but they've always been,
Speaker 1: at least in my experience, they've always been a good
Speaker 1: playoff crowd. That's just think about the big playoff games
Speaker 1: that have happened here. They go crazy for the playoff game,
Speaker 1: bar none. Eighth, it was the best AT and T
Speaker 1: has been And I missed the first three years that
Speaker 1: AT and T was open, but seeing as how there
Speaker 1: wasn't a whole lot of success in those years, I
Speaker 1: feel confident saying that was the best AT and T
Speaker 1: Stadium crowd ever for a Cowboys game. And it helps
Speaker 1: that those two wins that they've had Detroit and now
Speaker 1: Seattle is that that's not really a strong road game presence.
Speaker 1: You know, green Bay did have some I will say,
Speaker 1: which the does see some Saturday. The Lions game in
Speaker 1: the Packers game definitely were great environments too. It's I mean,
Speaker 1: the regular the regular season has always been the bugaboo
Speaker 1: for these guys, which and that will continue to happen,
Speaker 1: I think. But the Philadelphia this year, I mean, there
Speaker 1: were some games this year down the stretch that I
Speaker 1: really think that this crowd really helped. For sure, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. I've said it all. I've said it really
Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty seven when the Minnesota Twins did it
Speaker 1: in the World Series. You put give them a little
Speaker 1: white flags. It's it's about six points, they go crazy.
Speaker 1: You know, I judge a lot by the sound of
Speaker 1: the crowd, Like I know if the Cowboys made a
Speaker 1: play or if the opposing team made a play, went there.
Speaker 1: You hear the different levels of the crowd this time around,
Speaker 1: Like I would not have any idea because see, if
Speaker 1: I'm looking down and then I see some or expect
Speaker 1: to hear something to see whether or hear whether Seattle
Speaker 1: made a play or not, I would not know, Like
Speaker 1: I would have to watch the replay to make sure,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that was a catch or that was a touchdown.
Speaker 1: There was no noise like when Seattle made a play.
Speaker 1: There was no noise. Like I'm talking about how powerful
Speaker 1: the Dallas crowd was and how they literally took over
Speaker 1: the whole at and t state from from the opposing team,
Speaker 1: because usually you will even hear that even if it's
Speaker 1: not a huge number of fans. You hear it. This
Speaker 1: is this is something I did hear and I could
Speaker 1: kind of see it. When Alan Hearns was laying down there,
Speaker 1: you could hear something weird from the crowd. It was
Speaker 1: a different type of noise, and I remember looking and
Speaker 1: it's what we're way up there. I just remember thinking,
Speaker 1: that doesn't something's not looking right. The feet don't look
Speaker 1: like you normally would. And that's that's the end of
Speaker 1: what anything I've ever seen about Alan Hearns's play, because
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at it. I don't even know. So
Speaker 1: real quick, real quick, before we go to break, just
Speaker 1: give us some update on what we know. I guess
Speaker 1: at this point when her status is we do you
Speaker 1: had surgery? But where's he right now? And what's happening?
Speaker 1: You know. It's really fun about the social media age
Speaker 1: is like you can just get updates without trying to.
Speaker 1: Like I you know, I tweeted, I was just tweeting
Speaker 1: about Hearns from Saturday and uh and his mom came
Speaker 1: and found my tweet and tweeted and she was like,
Speaker 1: he's home, sir turns yeah, missus, Hearns shouted. She you
Speaker 1: know she's probably listening to this. If I hadn't guess
Speaker 1: the shout out hope Allan's doing better, but so she
Speaker 1: tweeted me yesterday and was like, he's home. Surgery went well,
Speaker 1: he's on the road to recovery. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: thank you for the update. I appreciate that. Really touching
Speaker 1: moment on Twitter as well, one of a fan. I
Speaker 1: don't know if was this the kid who he had
Speaker 1: done some he'd done something with whatever, there was a
Speaker 1: kid in my head. There was a kid on Twitter
Speaker 1: who just basically was, you know, kind of really distraught
Speaker 1: a lot of fact and then wrote a letter to
Speaker 1: him telling me he had been praying for him and
Speaker 1: then four times four times, yes, four times four times
Speaker 1: for you and uh, prayer works. And then he went
Speaker 1: back and sent that information over to That information got
Speaker 1: sent to Alan, and then Alan reached out to him, uh,
Speaker 1: and they showed some pictures of them having a FaceTime.
Speaker 1: Alan was talking to tell him assuring you have a
Speaker 1: story on that later on our Cowboy. So really cool
Speaker 1: stuff though, really cool stuff, really cool moment that came
Speaker 1: out of a very gruesome moment for the Cowboys of
Speaker 1: Alan Hern. He does appear to be doing well and
Speaker 1: assuming there are new setbacks. Is hopeful that he'll be
Speaker 1: ready for August. I mean huge. That's a big deal
Speaker 1: for him because this contract's not guaranteed next year. I
Speaker 1: mean right, that's that's a big deal for him. It
Speaker 1: really is a big deal, you know. And just it was.
Speaker 1: It was really a touching moment. A lot of things
Speaker 1: that you saw there. Um, you know, I give a
Speaker 1: lot of credit to the Seahawks as well, classy. I
Speaker 1: thought they were super glad. And I don't don't know
Speaker 1: if they know Alan hearns that well or not, but
Speaker 1: everyone knows that's those, you know, situations, and they were there,
Speaker 1: just about every one of their team teammates went over there,
Speaker 1: and just seeing Garrett and him, you know, just with that,
Speaker 1: you know, just locked, you know, with their hands like that.
Speaker 1: You can say what you want about Jason, but he
Speaker 1: absolutely cares about his guys, probably more than a lot
Speaker 1: of head coaches do. And it's moments like that that's evident.
Speaker 1: Just seeing the tears down and you know, just it was.
Speaker 1: It was a really intense scene, an emotional moment. And
Speaker 1: that's twice the Cowboys and their opponents have had to
Speaker 1: deal with that pretty early in the game with Crawford
Speaker 1: going down and the same with Hearns. And it's weird
Speaker 1: because you gotta like, Okay, that sucks. Now what well, now,
Speaker 1: what is twenty four x two blast on three? Ready? Break?
Speaker 1: I mean, do it again? Yeah, do it again? All right?
Speaker 1: We're good fans too for that. I remember, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously it's a gruesome injury. It takes time to get
Speaker 1: him off the field and do it. And then the
Speaker 1: fans were right back into it as soon as as
Speaker 1: soon as that was over, which that's easier said than
Speaker 1: done too. Ye, yep, alright, we're gonna take our first
Speaker 1: break when we come back. I do want to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about this wide receiver position. There
Speaker 1: were a few guys that came out of that game
Speaker 1: a little bit banged up, and I wonder how much
Speaker 1: that's gonna affect the Cowboys going into a game in
Speaker 1: LA against the Rams. We'll talk about that when we
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Speaker 1: The Break live from the s WVC Mortgage studios at
Speaker 1: the Star talking about the Cowboys playoff win versus a
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. This weekend, they'll be facing the Los Angeles Rams,
Speaker 1: will be traveling out there on Friday. Game is on
Speaker 1: Saturday night. Thanks you stay tuned for that. It should
Speaker 1: be fun. Let's talk a little bit more about this
Speaker 1: wide receiver position. I'll start first with Amari Cooper, who
Speaker 1: had seven catches one hundred and six yards, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: but a really, really solid night for them. Does it
Speaker 1: did exactly what you expect to number one wide receiver
Speaker 1: to do, made some big catches, formats at critical moments.
Speaker 1: That all being said, do you think that this offense
Speaker 1: was at all impacted by the loss of and not
Speaker 1: only the loss, but the loss and the hobbling of
Speaker 1: a couple of wide receivers throughout the game, because it
Speaker 1: was pretty early on when Cole Beasley had a catch
Speaker 1: and then he ended up having the ankle injury, and
Speaker 1: then you've got Hearns that goes out, and then even
Speaker 1: later in the game you got Tavon Austin who who
Speaker 1: had some I don't know if it was a reaggravation
Speaker 1: of the groin, but all those things happening. Amber talked
Speaker 1: about it. It It seemed like earlier were getting the ball
Speaker 1: a lot of people that all kind of came to
Speaker 1: an end. How much do you think that affected this offense?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it did a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: but they were all able to kind of come back
Speaker 1: on Herns, but they were all able to come back
Speaker 1: and do some things. Um, you know, I thought I
Speaker 1: thought that Cooper had two really big plays in that game.
Speaker 1: I mean that that took him from about the forty
Speaker 1: down to the fifteen or ten. Now, if they if
Speaker 1: they would have overturned that and called that a the
Speaker 1: incomplete pass, very similar to the Dez play, I don't
Speaker 1: know what would have happened there. Um, yeah, that would
Speaker 1: have been fun. Yeah, but I thought it was the
Speaker 1: right call. I thought he was making three steps, and
Speaker 1: that is the new rule now it's three steps. If
Speaker 1: you have the ball for three steps, that's officially account
Speaker 1: Like all right, we're getting into like so deep into
Speaker 1: the semantics. But like, I know, the ball, the ball
Speaker 1: moved when he hit the ground, but it didn't look
Speaker 1: like he lost control of it to me, Like he
Speaker 1: still looked like he had two hands on it. And
Speaker 1: of course it's gonna move when you, you know, you're
Speaker 1: running full speed and you fall on top of it.
Speaker 1: So but I don't think he lost control. And obviously
Speaker 1: the refs agree. And the point is it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: He had three steps, three steps and that point, at
Speaker 1: that point he's a runner. Yeah that's true. But then again,
Speaker 1: it happens, you know in the in the game yesterday,
Speaker 1: in the in the Bears game, when that was a
Speaker 1: really weird play, you know. But anyways, to get up
Speaker 1: to your point, I thought the receivers, I thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was they were they were having some setbacks, but
Speaker 1: they were you know, they were fine, and they were
Speaker 1: still you know, the guy they were trying to target
Speaker 1: the most was healthy. I mean, Noah Brown was definitely healthy.
Speaker 1: I I don't get it, Shot, I don't understand it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I like him. He actually just for the record,
Speaker 1: he was fourth in targets. I had one kitch the
Speaker 1: targeted Cooper, Zeke and Gallop more than Here's my thing
Speaker 1: about Noah Brown. I wish I could do make his
Speaker 1: voice well. He kept he kept talking about him. He'll
Speaker 1: be like, why is he still in there? And then
Speaker 1: he would not like go back down to writing his
Speaker 1: notes and notes and look back up and then realized
Speaker 1: no I was in there, and he's like, he's back
Speaker 1: in there, and it was hilarious. He hearns is hurt,
Speaker 1: like he has to play. But but you know, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you'll sit in the press box. He's got his headphones
Speaker 1: on and he still kind of forgets how loud he is.
Speaker 1: He doesn't really, that's the thing about headphones. Have heap phones,
Speaker 1: you don't know how loud you are? Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: Does he forget or does he just not care? Maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. But I think their headphones
Speaker 1: don't help, right, um he um. But my thing about
Speaker 1: Noah Brown and Jason always says this. Garrett says this
Speaker 1: about rookies and young players, is that you know, he
Speaker 1: did a nice job. He went in there. You know,
Speaker 1: the moment didn't seem to be too big for him.
Speaker 1: I think the moment is too big for him right now.
Speaker 1: I really believe what they want him to do and
Speaker 1: the type of player they want him to be. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's there yet, and I think they're asking
Speaker 1: too much of him. Yes, he's a big bodied guy,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean he can block everybody. Well who
Speaker 1: somebody knocked him down. He was trying to block, He
Speaker 1: gets knocked down, and he's just not there yet. I
Speaker 1: think he will be. I don't think, And I just
Speaker 1: don't understand if there's a clause in their contracts if
Speaker 1: he catches touchdowns or whatever. It just seems weird that
Speaker 1: they're really forced in the ball to him. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean everybody knows that. I'm the president of the Noah
Speaker 1: Brown fan Club, but still yeah, yeah, I'm okay. I mean,
Speaker 1: he hasn't doesn't cost them any games, has he? I mean,
Speaker 1: but you can see that it's yes buzzling. I don't
Speaker 1: blame Noah Brown. It go. I mean, it's the same
Speaker 1: thing we always say, it's like they outthink themselves in
Speaker 1: those types of situations. They're like, nobody'll ever see this coming.
Speaker 1: We will. Now we're not gonna give it to We
Speaker 1: should throw pencil, should throw it to Cooper. It's exactly
Speaker 1: what they want us to do. Well, then we should
Speaker 1: give it to Zeke. That's exactly what they want us
Speaker 1: to do. Well, how about Noah Brown? Like it just
Speaker 1: will just sneak him through the trash, Which that's what
Speaker 1: That's what that play was like. It reminded me of
Speaker 1: the Lucky Whitehead play in Green Bay. It is like,
Speaker 1: but it didn't work. They're just like, well, he's gonna
Speaker 1: engage for a minute and then we'll sneak him through
Speaker 1: the trash and it'll be right there. And like it's
Speaker 1: great in theory, but maybe lean on the guys who
Speaker 1: you pay, you know. And I'm all, let's let's be
Speaker 1: clear too. I'm all for the idea of being creative,
Speaker 1: because the moment they're not creative is a moment all
Speaker 1: of us and all the fans out there want to
Speaker 1: talk about how uncreative they are calling play. So I
Speaker 1: get it. It's I think you should throw some different
Speaker 1: things out there. It just is puzzling to me the
Speaker 1: amount that he ends up being on the receiving end
Speaker 1: of catches when he's just not been to this point,
Speaker 1: he has not been a productive receiver for them, not
Speaker 1: only has been at practice, Like obviously they practice all
Speaker 1: these plays. I wonder how he's been doing in practice.
Speaker 1: I guess that he's probably doing pretty well and they're
Speaker 1: probably go out there, we can use this, like this
Speaker 1: is something we can use in the game. It just
Speaker 1: hasn't transcause there are players like that that they they're
Speaker 1: great I practice and then you throw them in the
Speaker 1: game when the lights come on and it just does
Speaker 1: not It just disappears and the flips. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: the same. It's the same stories like, well it was
Speaker 1: there and they didn't execute this. I mean, he should
Speaker 1: have had a touchdown against Washington too, But over a
Speaker 1: long enough period of time, a large enough sample size
Speaker 1: when you're like, well, maybe maybe that's part of why
Speaker 1: it's not hitting right, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: not a high percentage play for the quarterback that's throwing
Speaker 1: it in the receiver. I am not a football coach,
Speaker 1: but if it were up to like if I was
Speaker 1: trying to get Noah Brown involved. I would be putting
Speaker 1: him out on the boundary and throwing jump balls to him,
Speaker 1: like throw the red zone fade to Noah Brown because
Speaker 1: he's gonna bully the dB out of the way. And
Speaker 1: I know he's got high pointability. I know he hasn't
Speaker 1: showed it here, but that's what I would do anyway,
Speaker 1: at least we're finding out at least right now that
Speaker 1: you know. And I think I said maybe he's a
Speaker 1: tied end type of guy. You know, he's not there
Speaker 1: yet because he does get he gets knocked around. Now
Speaker 1: you said bully these corners probably, but when it comes
Speaker 1: to the linebackers and stuff, he's the one that's getting bullets.
Speaker 1: He's not ready to kind of mix it up with that.
Speaker 1: kJ Wright. What an outstanding player he was also, he
Speaker 1: was great. He's a stud who like let's not Yeah
Speaker 1: he is a great player. Yeah, where is he? Is
Speaker 1: he a Texas guy? I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Wagner went to Utah State. He's awesome, Like just to
Speaker 1: make that play, just to like be running with the
Speaker 1: wide receiver and yeah, he hit him early. He had
Speaker 1: They missed him not being there for a good part
Speaker 1: of the season. But oh, that's right, he's a Mississippi
Speaker 1: State guy. I forgot that. Yeah. Um, so if he
Speaker 1: did got Dak was just throwing. He was helping him out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if he didn't play next to Bobby Wagner, he'd get
Speaker 1: so much more credit for how good he is. Um.
Speaker 1: But as a tandem, probably the best, best two or
Speaker 1: three in the league. I would guess them Carolina, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean want to throw these guys in there. Dallas
Speaker 1: is on but inside linebackers, Yeah, I'm linebacker tandems I
Speaker 1: phrase it. These two are better than those two you think.
Speaker 1: I think I'm there yet They're close. I have figured
Speaker 1: out I have figured out a great way to qualify it.
Speaker 1: Dallas's guys are They are the most athletic duo in
Speaker 1: the entire league. And that counts for a lot. I'll take.
Speaker 1: You know, Wagner and Wright have just been through the
Speaker 1: wars and see some things and can I mean, I
Speaker 1: trust their instincts and their experience a little bit more.
Speaker 1: But Jalen and Layton or I mean they're freaks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, they're not. They don't know as much about
Speaker 1: the position as Keekley and Davis or Wagner and Wright.
Speaker 1: But you know they can make plays getting these guys can't.
Speaker 1: They will be there very quickly shortly. The thing about
Speaker 1: that calling those guys and they are they have the
Speaker 1: freakish talent. But but I will say this, they tackle well,
Speaker 1: they really do that. It's not just guys that are
Speaker 1: running around. I mean, that's the impressive thing about Jalen
Speaker 1: and vander Esh, whom I remember when Rolando McClean was
Speaker 1: doing it. You see, you don't have to wait for
Speaker 1: the guy to tell us on you know of who
Speaker 1: made the play. You may don't even know who that
Speaker 1: is anyways, but you know exactly who's you know the
Speaker 1: tackle is just by looking from where we are, we're like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, Like he got hit at the twenty five
Speaker 1: and twenty five he didn't go into the yard, doesn't
Speaker 1: go anymore yards? When when vander Esh and Jalen hit him.
Speaker 1: I said that on Saturday Night. And Jalen Smith is
Speaker 1: h he's a name searcher on Twitter because he'll he'll
Speaker 1: find the stuff I tweet during a game and like
Speaker 1: it afterward, which I would do the same thing. That's fine,
Speaker 1: But Jalen when he made that tackle and he went
Speaker 1: out of bounds, you know, and he was a good
Speaker 1: play and I'm like, I was like, is he gonna
Speaker 1: swipe it on the set now? Now we gotta get
Speaker 1: back to the middle of the field. Yeah, is a
Speaker 1: Promoter's definitely a promoter. That's all right, No back it
Speaker 1: up on the field. I'm all good with that. When
Speaker 1: you hit like a sack of bricks, which well that's
Speaker 1: what I was just like, it is absolutely terrifying to
Speaker 1: watch him tackle from field level. Like as physical as
Speaker 1: it looks on TV, it is downright scary when it's
Speaker 1: happening ten or twenty feet away from you and the
Speaker 1: sound yeah, sound effect. I do not like it. Real quick,
Speaker 1: real quick, before we wrap up the conversation on wide receivers,
Speaker 1: You think the Cowboys this week are gonna have to
Speaker 1: do something in order to shore up that unit because
Speaker 1: you got Austin, you got Beasley, got Hearns all at
Speaker 1: least will probably be on the injury report this week.
Speaker 1: Hearns definitely out. You think they need to make a move.
Speaker 1: I don't think they need to make a move right now,
Speaker 1: because Lance Leonor's here. I mean they have Do you
Speaker 1: think they're going to move him up. I guess I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised. I mean, I'm just I'm spitballing here.
Speaker 1: Don't hold me to it. But I think Tavon and
Speaker 1: Beasley will play. I mean they both they finished the game,
Speaker 1: so that's a good sign that they should be able
Speaker 1: to go. Right. Is there a free agent, you know
Speaker 1: guy out there that and we did talk about, we
Speaker 1: talked about before the show got like a Deonte Thompson
Speaker 1: or somebody like that that has been here that knows
Speaker 1: the offense um, you know, with with with twenty nine help, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, how much is Lenore gonna help? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: but at least he has you know, dak it takes
Speaker 1: him a while, and like the connection with receivers, probably
Speaker 1: you have another injury. Let's say somebody down. Who do
Speaker 1: you want to run around there? Do you want Thompson
Speaker 1: or do you want lenor? You know? And if you
Speaker 1: didn't have twenty nine, why can't I remember his name? CJ? CJ. Goodwin.
Speaker 1: If you didn't have him, then I could definitely say
Speaker 1: you go with Lenore and he plays special teams, but
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of a role he'd have
Speaker 1: on special teams. Yeah, bringing in a guy at this
Speaker 1: point is not so much about this week as much
Speaker 1: as it is if you keep winning, and let's say,
Speaker 1: for example, you sustained another injury. Who is the guy
Speaker 1: that's going to be the guy that's farther down the
Speaker 1: line that now has has to play a little bit
Speaker 1: more of a role. And I think that's where you
Speaker 1: have to think about, do you want Lenore? I'm sorry
Speaker 1: my mentality was not a big picture here. I thank
Speaker 1: you for bringing me back. Think that yours is because
Speaker 1: I mean, we none of us have have gone this far,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean after this game, but I mean
Speaker 1: for if not, and we've we've now done this for
Speaker 1: twenty years and we've not gone beyond this round that's
Speaker 1: coming up. You haven't. We haven't been able to say
Speaker 1: those words that. How does that feel? Sucks? I want
Speaker 1: to say it. Yeah, I hate it. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what I don't even know what movie that's from,
Speaker 1: but it's from a movie and I want to be
Speaker 1: able to say it. Yeah. I just want to. I
Speaker 1: want to get to an NFC Championship game. We're going
Speaker 1: to this ship, I know, Yeah, I just want to.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's from a movie. I just think
Speaker 1: it's I want to see what it is from, you know. So,
Speaker 1: but I will say this, you look at these playoff
Speaker 1: and we've said this at the beginning of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: This is not a situation where there is one team
Speaker 1: that you're like, oh, they're definitely going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: There is no team like that right now. And the
Speaker 1: interesting thing somebody put that pointed this out on Twitter yesterday.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys beat the team that the Eagles are gonna
Speaker 1: have to play this week. The Eagles beat the team
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are gonna have to play this week.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of mixing up well of these teams,
Speaker 1: and there's enough there to make you think that you
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen this weekend when these teams
Speaker 1: match up. Anything could happen. I would not be surprised
Speaker 1: with any particular outcome. You know. I think that you
Speaker 1: saw probably of the four hottest teams in the NFL
Speaker 1: going into the playoffs, Colts definitely number one, and they're
Speaker 1: the team that the only team that's beating Dallas and
Speaker 1: they destroyed them. You know, they're the hottest team for sure.
Speaker 1: Dallas is right at there. Philadelphias is super high and
Speaker 1: Dallas is a team to beat them. And you know,
Speaker 1: and I think Baltimar, you would say, was pretty hot too,
Speaker 1: and then they got cooled off quick. But but you know,
Speaker 1: it just it just shows that you know, you can
Speaker 1: you can be hot going into the playoffs, and so
Speaker 1: far it seems like it's carried over for that most part.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take our final break. When we
Speaker 1: come back, we'll talk a little bit about this defense,
Speaker 1: and then we'll also talk about just for a brief moment,
Speaker 1: we'll talk a little start touching on Cowboys versus Rams,
Speaker 1: so that when we come right back. This is Dallas
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Speaker 1: on paper, it's when he's out on the field that
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Speaker 1: welcome back, final segment of the break lack in the
Speaker 1: SWBC Mortal. We should just take we should just take
Speaker 1: that to the air, because I guarantee you Cowboys fans Field,
Speaker 1: you know, feel similarly that was actually gonna be the
Speaker 1: second part of this. But let's just go and jump
Speaker 1: right into it. I mean, we were talking about the
Speaker 1: you know, the matchup as you're watching the game yesterday,
Speaker 1: and I know I tweeted about it. I want it.
Speaker 1: I went into the game wanting Philadelphia to win that
Speaker 1: game mainly because for me, at least, it keeps it
Speaker 1: keeps the hope alive. And I know this is a
Speaker 1: remote hope, but it is a hope that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: could actually if they can win, and then if by
Speaker 1: some chance Philly wins as well, Cowboys would be hosting
Speaker 1: an NFC championship game. And Nick, you're not just talking
Speaker 1: about how we've never even experienced that. To be able
Speaker 1: to experience that at the home stadium, I think that's great.
Speaker 1: And I think the Cowboys best shot of winning that
Speaker 1: championship game and going to the Super Bowl will be
Speaker 1: playing it at home because that's where they've been dominant
Speaker 1: this year. So it wasn't so much about avoiding the
Speaker 1: Saints because I think the Rams are a formidable opponent
Speaker 1: as well. We'll talk about that later in the week
Speaker 1: when we start talking about Aaron Donald. But the fact
Speaker 1: the matter still is, I think being able to have
Speaker 1: a chance at a home playoff game for the NFC
Speaker 1: Championship that's a big deal. That's a huge deal. The
Speaker 1: list of reasons to root for the Eagles yesterday was
Speaker 1: like two miles long, and the risk list of reasons
Speaker 1: to root for the Bears was just you don't like
Speaker 1: the Eagles, Like, that's it. That's it. That's a big one,
Speaker 1: which you're right, that is. The Rams are a formidable opponent,
Speaker 1: but I think they are a better matchup for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I know the LA Coliseum will have more Cowboys fans
Speaker 1: in it than the Superdome will. True, and it keeps
Speaker 1: your chances of hosting a championship game alive, which I
Speaker 1: hear Nick's argument that that sounds like a terrifying proposition.
Speaker 1: Is playing one of your oldest and most hated rivals
Speaker 1: in them to go to the Super Bowl. That sounds
Speaker 1: at your house. You know what, though, it sounds a
Speaker 1: hell of a lot better than having to go down there.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys beat them, though, how sweet would that be? Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, absolutely yes. Maybe I'm definitely a glass
Speaker 1: half empty person. Will Maybe I am, because because I
Speaker 1: just look at it like the uh is there? At
Speaker 1: this point, you really can't have a bad season. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna be a bad unless you lose to the Rams.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad season you lose to the Saints
Speaker 1: in the championship game. It's not a bad season if
Speaker 1: you have if you host the NFC Championship Game and
Speaker 1: you lose to the Eagles and they are sitting in
Speaker 1: your fifty yard line with the ropes and stuff and
Speaker 1: they're holding trophy and all that, and then the next
Speaker 1: week that's two weeks. I had a good year. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a good year until Lenahan threw it to Noah Brown
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship Game. It got picked off by
Speaker 1: Jenkins and the Eagles are celebrating their sad right. I
Speaker 1: mean that horrible? That would be horrible. I'm saying is
Speaker 1: I think I'd rather go to the Superdome. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's all worth going to the Superdome
Speaker 1: because the one thing you say the Cowboys have played
Speaker 1: really well at home this year, So I'll take my
Speaker 1: chances on that. One is the trade that they don't
Speaker 1: end up losing that game if they get there, because
Speaker 1: those seven color you're you're probably thought that as I
Speaker 1: stood on the table, and I was like, you can
Speaker 1: beat their team three times if you're better, and they
Speaker 1: get it to the Eagles that year they beat the
Speaker 1: Eagles three times in a season, right, you know, but absolutely,
Speaker 1: hands Yeah, it's hard. It's a different Yeah, how how
Speaker 1: likely is that to happen? And it's a different team.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Foles' is just different with him scared,
Speaker 1: scared money, don't make money, Give me the home, give
Speaker 1: me the home playoff game all the time. Every time
Speaker 1: I was scared of my Really, I'm gonna want to
Speaker 1: go to the super job. In other words, what you're
Speaker 1: saying is they're all scary, all the boy. I mean,
Speaker 1: if this you're not. That's and that's point. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: the flips. That's the flip side of it too, And
Speaker 1: obviously that's what the players are gonna say. You know,
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence looked like he was offended when I asked
Speaker 1: him if he had a preference. He's like, I thought
Speaker 1: he's gonna he grab you by your throat. He was
Speaker 1: mad at mad you back though he didn't thank you
Speaker 1: for He was like, who care? Who cares? Like we
Speaker 1: gotta go on the road and win. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know, but there's a there's a difference. I mean,
Speaker 1: not for him. Yeah, but that's the mentality they have
Speaker 1: to have, absolutely, But it's not our job. It's not
Speaker 1: our job to have that mentality. And I can say
Speaker 1: for a fact that one is better than the other.
Speaker 1: And it's one thing if they win, you know, like
Speaker 1: if you win Sunday or this Saturday night and you're
Speaker 1: talking about, okay, Eagles play the Saints tomorrow, that's one thing.
Speaker 1: But when you say it this early and you say
Speaker 1: I'd rather play the Rams in the Saints, well guess what.
Speaker 1: You go beat the Rams now. Now you gotta play
Speaker 1: the Saint. Good chance, you gotta go. You gotta You know,
Speaker 1: you don't want to ever act like you're scared of anybody.
Speaker 1: It's a little different if you don't have to play
Speaker 1: them both. You might have to play both of them. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean hopefully we will. Yeah, I'd be concerned if
Speaker 1: the players were saying they were one at one over
Speaker 1: the other, Like that's not what they shows. You'd be thinking,
Speaker 1: we're yeah. That's the point though, is that's what their
Speaker 1: coach priest us a nameless faceless opponent, right, doesn't matter
Speaker 1: who it is. It's about what we do. Hope they
Speaker 1: believe it, right, But for everybody else, it's okay for
Speaker 1: us to be like I'd rather go nameless faceless opponent.
Speaker 1: Remember that in front of a building that's at least thirty,
Speaker 1: if not fifty percent Cowboys fans. Just sounds so much
Speaker 1: better than ninety five five, which is probably but you
Speaker 1: would get in New Orleans every year. We know they're
Speaker 1: out there. We know they're there because they come out
Speaker 1: to training. Yeah yeah, I mean, and they go out
Speaker 1: there and their goals to watch a little bit of
Speaker 1: practice and maybe get you know, Lance Dunbar to sign
Speaker 1: your hat or something like that. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I mentioned, but I'm just you know, just s I mean,
Speaker 1: just just hope that they get an autograph and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. And now you have a chance to really go.
Speaker 1: I don't make a difference cost it's probably gonna well
Speaker 1: check this out, uh right before Cody Parky lined up
Speaker 1: to kick. Last night, tickets tickets to the Coliseum for
Speaker 1: the Rams playoff game, we're one sixty and tickets to
Speaker 1: the Saints game were two eighty five. This morning, Rams
Speaker 1: tickets are three twenty nine and Saints tickets are one eighty. Oh. Literally,
Speaker 1: like the cowboys just grabbed the market and shift it
Speaker 1: in whatever direction they want. That's how they do. Insane,
Speaker 1: That's how they do. It's gonna be lit, as they
Speaker 1: like to say. That's the children like this in the coliseum.
Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking, like from our standpoint, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not really going to be in a good press
Speaker 1: box either way. Oh no, no, wait, New Orleans press
Speaker 1: box isn't horrible. It's yes, it is worse than horrible.
Speaker 1: I thought you talk about the food. I'm sorry. The
Speaker 1: food better than the food's way better than the Rams.
Speaker 1: The Rams the worst food in the leak, yes, by far.
Speaker 1: But maybe they'll step up in them. Get luck with
Speaker 1: my main like, at least will be warm. That is
Speaker 1: a good at least will be warm. It is free.
Speaker 1: The like the the AC, the h the AC hub
Speaker 1: for the entire Superdome is right next to the press box,
Speaker 1: right it's like, yeah, well it's that closed off so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you hear everything. That would be fun though, maybe
Speaker 1: we'll get just kind of feel the environment of pet
Speaker 1: pet peeve of mine. And I know, like very few
Speaker 1: people agree with me. Like if you cover college football,
Speaker 1: the vast majority of those press boxes are open, really
Speaker 1: and it is so much cooler. I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate how the press boxes across the NFL are
Speaker 1: all closed. Like you could tell you've been to enough
Speaker 1: games and we go down to the field, like it
Speaker 1: was amazing at at and T, but we would have
Speaker 1: had such a cooler perspective of it if those windows
Speaker 1: had been opened, because you got you got a half
Speaker 1: inch of like plate class between you and the crowd
Speaker 1: and like so I can lean over to Rob and
Speaker 1: talk to him very comfortably, which would not be the
Speaker 1: case if it was open. Yeah. Minnesota has that and
Speaker 1: it's awesome. Yeah, and it used to be at Minnesota
Speaker 1: when they were in their old stadium. Not only was
Speaker 1: it open, but you were down like you were down
Speaker 1: lower so you were actually within the crowd. So it
Speaker 1: was really I thought those playoff games, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: it was you felt the playoff atmosphere in Minnesota when
Speaker 1: you were playing there. It'll be a good press box
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, though, it will be. I'm sitting it's open, right,
Speaker 1: Atlanta's open. I'm pretty sure Atlanta's open. You know what
Speaker 1: where might be? I might be thinking about their old stadium.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We're just talking here. I don't know where.
Speaker 1: If the ten of us would actually get to be
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl, I don't probably split us up.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I love that's you know, I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: a thing like, were we talking about the NFC title
Speaker 1: game a little too much? Well, I was just jumping, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's what happened to me. You haven't been there in
Speaker 1: a while. You just gets your mind start. You know.
Speaker 1: One thing I did think about though this morning, and
Speaker 1: it was it was kind of sad. I thought, what
Speaker 1: if this team really gets on a roll and they
Speaker 1: get there. I feel for Jason wind Like, I really
Speaker 1: would feel for Jason all the years that he kind
Speaker 1: of was trying to get over that hump, trying to
Speaker 1: get over that hump, and then the one year, the
Speaker 1: year he retires, then they get on a roll. That
Speaker 1: would be that'd be tough, that'd be tough to deal
Speaker 1: with if if you're him, right snoozy lose. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have I don't have it. I love Jason,
Speaker 1: how are you kidding? I have no ill will toward
Speaker 1: him whatsoever. Yeah, but he retired on like during the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, like litter. I mean, the offseason program was
Speaker 1: already underway. I'm not saying anybody's gonna feel sorry for I,
Speaker 1: just I personally would feel a little sorry for him
Speaker 1: because I know how much that mentum and I get't know.
Speaker 1: We're way ahead of you, got a lot of games
Speaker 1: to play and a lot of a lot of games
Speaker 1: still win to get there. But I just thought about it,
Speaker 1: like I wonder if he's sitting back thinking right now, like, man,
Speaker 1: this team they're better than I maybe than he expected
Speaker 1: them to be, because I wonder if they were, if
Speaker 1: they were playing, if he and it's mine thought that
Speaker 1: they were gonna be this good, if he would have
Speaker 1: made that decision, I wonder maybe it would have. But
Speaker 1: I do. I do wonder a lot of things to
Speaker 1: want they're about in life. I'm just saying, what if,
Speaker 1: what if they're not three and five or three and four?
Speaker 1: I mean, what if they're four and three or whatever,
Speaker 1: I mean, they still make the trade for Cooper. Actually
Speaker 1: to the point now, they asked Stephen Jones about that
Speaker 1: um after the regular seasons, after the Giants game, and
Speaker 1: he's like, we probably would have been more motivated if
Speaker 1: we'd had a better record, because obviously the receivers are
Speaker 1: still a problem. I mean, you you know, all you
Speaker 1: need is eyeballs to see that. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if I believe that though, because of how much they
Speaker 1: care about the draft, and you know, that's a big pick,
Speaker 1: your first round pick. So but if you're better than
Speaker 1: the pick isn't as good. But that also may also
Speaker 1: tell you that maybe they didn't even believe in what
Speaker 1: they were saying publicly about not needing a number one
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Maybe they were just at a point where
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, we need a number one
Speaker 1: wide receiver, we don't have one. So you don't go
Speaker 1: out publicly and say, yeah, we need a number one
Speaker 1: wide receiver, but you don't have one. We have to
Speaker 1: kind of sell it that way. And so maybe the
Speaker 1: idea was that they always thought they needed one, they
Speaker 1: just didn't have access to one. And then when he
Speaker 1: became available, it was like, Oh, we don't have to
Speaker 1: wait until draft and try to draft one and hope
Speaker 1: that he hits. We can actually go and get one
Speaker 1: that already has proven he can play in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And that just kind of But had they been doing
Speaker 1: good at the beginning of the season, good enough, do
Speaker 1: you feel that they would have them intality to where
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we do need a number one or
Speaker 1: can we just keep going and pushing it like we
Speaker 1: are right now? That's my point, We're doing okay. If
Speaker 1: if they everything we've heard since they've gotten a number
Speaker 1: one wide receiver kind of flies in the face of
Speaker 1: them really thinking yeah, like legitimately thinking they didn't need
Speaker 1: a number one. So I think they were just kind
Speaker 1: of selling what they had to sell at the time.
Speaker 1: They were going to get a number one at some point,
Speaker 1: whether it was going to be this year because they
Speaker 1: went after our number one this year. I mean they
Speaker 1: in the off season they were trying to get a
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. Didn't work out for them, so
Speaker 1: they ended up having to get Alan Hearns, which they
Speaker 1: kind of just painted him into. The teams lie to themselves, well,
Speaker 1: they don't lie to themselves, they lie to everybody else
Speaker 1: and then do what they actually want to do a
Speaker 1: lot at the times. Yeah, yeah, this, I think this
Speaker 1: is just a situation where it kind of worked out.
Speaker 1: It fell into their lapse. They didn't have to wait
Speaker 1: till they got to the off season and drafted number
Speaker 1: one and he drafted a first round wide receiver. Let
Speaker 1: me say this too, but I mean, I get your point.
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. He was a great player
Speaker 1: here and you know, and he is, uh, we're back
Speaker 1: on Witness the Warrior. Yeah, Jason Witten. But I'll say
Speaker 1: this though, you know, he I think one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why he didn't come back it's because he didn't
Speaker 1: believe in the team. He really did. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to put him and put words in his mouth,
Speaker 1: but there's been enough people that have kind of said,
Speaker 1: you know that he didn't really think that this team
Speaker 1: with Garrett and Dak were going to do that. And
Speaker 1: so that's what Garrett preaches all along about buying in
Speaker 1: and it's it's about us and no one else thought
Speaker 1: we would. And I really believe if Jason Witten thought
Speaker 1: this team would do it, you know, he would have stayed.
Speaker 1: And so that's kind of on him, you know, because
Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't. I think he was done buying
Speaker 1: in and a lot of fans have done the same thing. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean probably he's never said this to me, but
Speaker 1: he left and he still thought he could play. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think he thought this team could take it, tono.
Speaker 1: But that's my point. If that is true, then he
Speaker 1: still has to be he would be thinking if they
Speaker 1: got farther into this playoff, he would be thinking, man,
Speaker 1: did I make a bad decision? Although, and you know,
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, and I think there's some
Speaker 1: validity to it. But I mean, if that's really how
Speaker 1: he felt, and almost good for him too, because that
Speaker 1: is a hell of a commitment to make if you're
Speaker 1: not in it, you know, right, no doubt. If you're not,
Speaker 1: it's written on all the signs all over this building.
Speaker 1: It is like, if you're not one hundred percent in,
Speaker 1: get out. And so obviously you would love it if
Speaker 1: Jason Witten was part of this. But if you mean
Speaker 1: turning thirty six and you got this offer on the
Speaker 1: table and you're like, I don't know, man, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know. If I have it in me to care
Speaker 1: in May just as much as I would in December,
Speaker 1: then then you probably and he couldn't be Gates. You know,
Speaker 1: Gates has taken a different role Gates, especially when Henry
Speaker 1: comes back. For sure, he's a It's a different type
Speaker 1: of thing. I don't think he could have ever done that.
Speaker 1: He needed all the time, not even a backup guy,
Speaker 1: not even the startup, but just the every down starter.
Speaker 1: He didn't even want to rotate. So it was a
Speaker 1: different thing for him. Um, I'm sure he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's probably proud of the team at some point, but
Speaker 1: maybe he's kicking himself a little bit. But but but
Speaker 1: that's not I'm not saying anything bad about him thinking
Speaker 1: that way. Who in this room thought this team, you know,
Speaker 1: would would be at this level? I don't know, not me.
Speaker 1: I didn't pick him to the playoffs, so I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Did we pick playoffs? I think we picked records. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't remember. I said I said nine
Speaker 1: and seven, no playoff trip, and that's fine. Hey, they
Speaker 1: proved me wrong. I can know him that that's cool,
Speaker 1: which maybe Jason wit And feels some regret but thinking
Speaker 1: about thinking about how much work it takes to get
Speaker 1: ready for a season and all of that. He might
Speaker 1: be a piece with it. Like, man, that's really great
Speaker 1: for them. But I I didn't body. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: just like I didn't want to do it anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was slowing down. So all right, we appreciate you, guys,
Speaker 1: John Us. We back tomorrow. We'll jump right into the
Speaker 1: Rams tomorrow. Dave will give us a scattering report on
Speaker 1: the Rams offense on Wendsay will get to their defense.
Speaker 1: Till then. For Nick Eaton, Dave Elman, and Amber Garcia,
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