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Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, Welcome to move the sticks. Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: week here, Bucky and myself excited to to jump in

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Speaker 1: talking about these two teams here with the Eagles and

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Speaker 1: what we saw at All Star Games that we were at.

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Speaker 1: Bucky doing a great job there with Rhett and company.

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Speaker 1: Even though you guys couldn't give me a touchdown, really

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Speaker 1: I'm good. It's uh good to be back here. And

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Speaker 1: the draft is really coming up on us. Like DJ,

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Speaker 1: what's so crazy is um, we're gonna do the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: HBC Legacy Bowl. I come right back and we go

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Speaker 1: to the Combine, and so, like the way the season

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Speaker 1: Then two weeks later literally when Indianapolis and the new

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Speaker 1: six four million, um, So they're in. They're in a

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Speaker 1: different spot there, uh than uh than their counterparts in

431
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl to the Kansas City Chiefs. I would

432
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Speaker 1: just say they have hard fast rules, um, that they

433
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Speaker 1: have followed forever. Like linebackers, you know, running backs. They're

434
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Speaker 1: not taking them in the first round. They just they

435
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Speaker 1: they were kind of ahead of the curve maybe a

436
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Speaker 1: little bit on that um, in terms of line of

437
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Speaker 1: scrimmage and playmakers. That's it. That's what they're looking for.

438
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Speaker 1: Line of scrimmage and playmakers. And when you look at

439
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Speaker 1: some of these ones. Look at some of their arts,

440
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Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, Lane Johnson. Um, you can go all the

441
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Speaker 1: way down through Um. Uh, let's see Landon Dickerson. Was

442
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Speaker 1: it to this year last year? Jordan Davis? Like they are,

443
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Speaker 1: They're they're getting their bigs in the first round, and

444
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Speaker 1: then they've been able to hit on running backs in

445
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Speaker 1: round two, tight ends in round two. UM. Still continuing

446
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Speaker 1: to sprinkle other uh, you know, bigs in the mix

447
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 1: as you go through the middle rounds. Hitting on a

448
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Speaker 1: guy you know obviously Jordan Mylotta was a huge one,

449
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Speaker 1: hitting on him in the seventh round, Kelsey in the

450
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Speaker 1: sixth round. Like they've been able to keep going and

451
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Speaker 1: investing in the line of scrimmage throughout the draft. Um,

452
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Speaker 1: that's been a key part of it. And then I

453
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Speaker 1: think when you look at, you know, from a free

454
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Speaker 1: agency and trade standpoint, Howie Roseman is always going to

455
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Speaker 1: use every avenue. He's never gonna be just limited to,

456
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Speaker 1: uh to what you can do in the draft. So

457
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Speaker 1: if you just look in this last offseason, what he

458
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Speaker 1: accomplished he signed in free agency, Bradberry, Hassan Reddick, who's

459
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Speaker 1: you know, second league in sacks, uh Linval Joseph Um.

460
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Speaker 1: You look at the trades, the big trades for A. J. Brown, C. J. Gardner, Johnson,

461
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Speaker 1: those guys are all starters, plus a whole host of

462
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Speaker 1: other contributors they've acquired via free agency. And then obviously

463
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Speaker 1: Robert Quinn is another trade there as well. Um. But

464
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Speaker 1: using every avenue you can to uh to attack your

465
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Speaker 1: roster or something to how he does. But he does

466
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Speaker 1: it better than anybody else in the league. I don't

467
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Speaker 1: even think it's close in terms of the creativity of

468
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Speaker 1: bringing in talent. Yeah, I mean, look, he he is

469
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Speaker 1: not scared to make moves. He's not scared to move

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Speaker 1: off of players that aren't there. The thing that he

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Speaker 1: did with Carson Wentz to me, uh showed his his shrewdness,

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Speaker 1: his ability to understand exactly what it is and when

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Speaker 1: you need to move off of a player. A lot

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Speaker 1: of player, a lot of executives would not have moved

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Speaker 1: off of Carson Wentz when that situation there. You paid him,

476
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Speaker 1: he was your franchise quarterback. You celebrate him as a

477
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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. But then when it became obvious that maybe

478
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Speaker 1: the other guy, the young guy, had kind of commanded

479
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Speaker 1: the room and showed enough promise they made the move.

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Speaker 1: Everybody doesn't do that, and so he deserves a lot

481
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Speaker 1: of credit for that. And look, he had to eat

482
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Speaker 1: a lot of it when people took kind of snicking

483
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Speaker 1: and laughed about the quarterback factory. But he's been proven right.

484
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Speaker 1: When they took Jalen, they talked about he would kind

485
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Speaker 1: of be the quarterback factory, and everyone's like it didn't

486
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Speaker 1: work out, like looking at the quarterback, But now they

487
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Speaker 1: got it. And I wouldn't be surprised if they went

488
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Speaker 1: back in the mix and continue to look at quarterbacks

489
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Speaker 1: because it's such a valuable position, so why not. But

490
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Speaker 1: the guy that they got in Jalen, the team that

491
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Speaker 1: David somewhet around to him, particularly upfront, is one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why the field Eagles are sitting right there

493
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Speaker 1: in Super Bowl. And I also, you know you talk

494
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Speaker 1: about it being able to admit the mistake there with

495
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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and move on. How much he remember it

496
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Speaker 1: was a punchline for them taking Jalen Reagor over justin Jefferson.

497
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Speaker 1: Well he fixed it. He went out and got a

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Speaker 1: trade for a J. Brown, which was an unbelievable acquisition

499
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Speaker 1: to go along with drafting Davante Smith. So you lose

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Speaker 1: out on a premier pair like Justin Jefferson. He's got two,

501
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Speaker 1: He's got two really really good weapons there. And so

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Speaker 1: it's just, hey, we made a mistake. Move on. We

503
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Speaker 1: moved on from Jalen Reagor. We brought him better players. Um,

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Speaker 1: you look at at the draft where they took uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, a swing in the first round on Andre

506
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Speaker 1: Dillard attack from Washingt State. I liked Andre Dillard a lot.

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Speaker 1: I thought he'd be a really good player. He was

508
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Speaker 1: a really good passpect there at Washington State. It didn't work. Um,

509
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Speaker 1: so that's fine. We'll just keep We'll just keep going

510
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Speaker 1: back to the well. And we don't feel like we

511
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Speaker 1: need to run him out there as a starter either.

512
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Speaker 1: If you're not good enough to play, that's fine. We'll

513
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Speaker 1: we'll pay Jordan my lot of We took him in

514
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Speaker 1: the seventh round, he beat him out. We're gonna pay him. Um,

515
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Speaker 1: and he gets out in front of these Yeah, but

516
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Speaker 1: I want you to think about this. Think about this.

517
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Speaker 1: So if you look at their team, I was just

518
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Speaker 1: looking this up. Their free agents after this year. Okay,

519
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:39,959
Speaker 1: so guys with expiring contracts. Offensively, Kelsey you're starting center, Smaller,

520
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: you're starting guard, Miles Sanders, you're starting running back, and

521
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Speaker 1: then you go to the defensive side of the ball. Bradbury,

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Speaker 1: your starter. Brandon Graham is a key contributor, has been

523
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Speaker 1: there forever. Fletcher Cox, Javon Hargrave, Uh Lynn Vaal, Joseph t. J.

524
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Speaker 1: Edwards has been a really good player. Chauncey Carter Johnson,

525
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Speaker 1: you just acquired. I'm looking at this going home. My gosh.

526
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Speaker 1: Look at all the guys they've got, and then you

527
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Speaker 1: know what you do. You look at how you build

528
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Speaker 1: a roster. Look at their draft class from this last year.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Davis the big defensive tackle, Cam Jergens center, You

530
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Speaker 1: look at n Kobe Dean the linebacker. Uh. They they've

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Speaker 1: got guys in place like Okay, hey, you guys have

532
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: been great for us. You've been great players, you know,

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Speaker 1: Hall of and Jason Kelsey's case a Hall of Famer

534
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Speaker 1: who's still playing at Home of Fame level. But if

535
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Speaker 1: he wants to retire, guess what, Cam Jergens, you're ready

536
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Speaker 1: to rock and roll. Javon Hargrave, Hopefully we can pay you.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we can keep you at the same with Fletcher Cocks,

538
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Speaker 1: like maybe get another little another little contract. If not,

539
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: guess what we got. Jordan Davis were rock and roll.

540
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Speaker 1: Like they've backstopped all these positions. There's so much planning

541
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Speaker 1: and thought that's gone into how they've built their roster.

542
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Speaker 1: And it's not only that, how about the way they

543
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: manipulated draft every year? How you get where extra picks?

544
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Speaker 1: And now he's sitting there with two first round ticks

545
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Speaker 1: and you know, and you know what do you do with?

546
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Speaker 1: You me? Wait, and you know what, I'll trade off

547
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Speaker 1: this second uh first round pick and make sure next

548
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Speaker 1: year I have two first round picks. And so it

549
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Speaker 1: goes on and on and on in terms of the

550
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: flexibility to build your team by any means necessary, and

551
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Speaker 1: that is what the Philadelphia Eagles have done. They've been

552
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Speaker 1: able to do that, uh from their standpoint. But I

553
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Speaker 1: want to make sure that we give the coaching staff credit.

554
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Speaker 1: We give Nick Sirianni credit because I know there's a

555
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Speaker 1: lot of conversation and hot takes about how he fell

556
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Speaker 1: into this and it's very easy for him. No, No No,

557
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him his flowers because he made a

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Speaker 1: decision in the middle of last year to change the

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Speaker 1: way that they played offensively and defensively. They were a

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Speaker 1: team that were trying to play a certain way on

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Speaker 1: offense with with Jalen Hurts. About midway through they switched

562
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Speaker 1: and they really played to his strengths and the offense

563
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Speaker 1: exploded running the football with him as a catalyst. And

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Speaker 1: then you go back and you look at what they

565
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Speaker 1: were able to do defensively. They came in with Jonathan Gannon.

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Speaker 1: He was doing a lot of the met even flu stuff.

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Speaker 1: Reid react, keep the ball in front, a lot of

568
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Speaker 1: his own stuff. They don't play like that anymore. And

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Speaker 1: you gotta pay attention. This team will get after you

570
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Speaker 1: there intact mode. They play on their toes coming down

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Speaker 1: here seventy s. So give them credit because that's what

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Speaker 1: good coaches do. They may have an original plan, but

573
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Speaker 1: when that plan isn't going according to the script, they

574
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Speaker 1: get off of it and they find a way to

575
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: play to the strength of their players. They peel the

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Speaker 1: A few Eagles have done a great job on the

577
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Speaker 1: front office front and also in the coaching staff in

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Speaker 1: terms of making this team a championship caliber squad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you know my we've we you've known

580
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: this forever. But Jeremiah Washburn is one of my best friends.

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Speaker 1: Then Jeremiah is coaching their outside linebackers who have had

582
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Speaker 1: a historical year in terms of the numbers of guys

583
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Speaker 1: with sacks um and you know, dealing with that front

584
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Speaker 1: well one of the other things that you have. But

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Speaker 1: you have somebody who is an offensive line coach who's

586
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Speaker 1: now in charge of your rush plan. So if you

587
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Speaker 1: think about it from a baseball standpoint, you have you

588
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 1: have a hitting coach right who's gonna sit there and say,

589
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna work on your swing, where your hands are,

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Speaker 1: you know, timing all that kind of stuff. And then

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00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: you have then you have somebody who studies the opponent

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Speaker 1: and studies what they like to do and say, okay,

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Speaker 1: now I'm gonna give you an attack plan. So you

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Speaker 1: have your fundamentals, but then let me give you a

595
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Speaker 1: tech plan. I think now what you're seeing with advanced

596
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: organizations is they're having guys that are saying, okay, we'll

597
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: work and we can do and and Jerrem I can

598
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: do all that stuff too, but you know, working with

599
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Speaker 1: the the fundamentals and here's where your hand is hand placements,

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00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff. But then there's other people

601
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Speaker 1: that have a role where you can be able to say, Okay,

602
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: if we look at the tendencies of this quarterback, this

603
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: is his sweet spot where he likes maneuver around. We're

604
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: gonna close that off with our rush plan. This this

605
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: guard has an issue with games. So when we run

606
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: our stunts and games, guess what we're gonna make him

607
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: have to think and pass that off. It's creating a

608
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Speaker 1: rush plan. Um, not just you know, the technical one

609
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: on one stuff, but having an understanding and when you

610
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Speaker 1: have an offensive former offensive line coach working on the

611
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball who sees things differently. I

612
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: don't know, we talked about this in the past. Why

613
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: doesn't every team they should have an offensive line coach

614
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: helping the defensive line. They should have a defensive line

615
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Speaker 1: coach working with the offensive line, because you're gonna be

616
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Speaker 1: able to see, hey, look, this is what they're gonna do.

617
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 1: I mean, if I watch our tape self, scout, this

618
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: is what you're gonna see because this is what I

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Speaker 1: would do if I was coaching against you. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's really interesting in DJ I'm really a big

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Speaker 1: believer in the cross training, the cross training of coaches,

622
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Speaker 1: because there's certain stuff that you get when you take

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Speaker 1: an offensive guy and you put him in a defensive room,

624
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: he is able to tell you, hey, is this what

625
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: they really think about on offense? Like if we line

626
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: up in this, what is the mindset on the other

627
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: side and vice versa, And it works. And so when

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00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: you talk about Washburn being on that side, having a

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Speaker 1: h an experienced background in old line play, being able

630
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: to take protections and attack protections because you know exactly

631
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: where the vulnerabilities are, that is huge. That's next level stuff,

632
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: and a lot of people talk about it, and a

633
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: lot of offensive and defensive coaches think they know how

634
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: to attack, but it's different to have someone who has

635
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: spent time on that other side of the ball and

636
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: really knows what the adjustments are and what the protections

637
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: and all those things are and what really gives it problems.

638
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: It changes the game and it certainly has played a

639
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: big role in why the Philadelphia Eagles have been able

640
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: to really win with an attacking style defense. That I mean,

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00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: seventy sacks is ridiculous. More than the second time unbelievable

642
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Speaker 1: to be able to do that, and to do it

643
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Speaker 1: with that limiting some of the big plays. The ball

644
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: doesn't flower the head because it's a haphazard rush plan.

645
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: They have it all coordinated. It's been a really good

646
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: job of their defensive staff. Yeah, and I think there's

647
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: some other teams that do this. I think the forty

648
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Niners are one that does it as well. They're attack teams.

649
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: But we always talk about um coverages setting traps. Right,

650
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: you'll see it where they'll set a trap. They'll have

651
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: a corner kind of squatting on crossers. Quarterback doesn't see

652
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: them where you're gonna you're gonna buzz down and you're

653
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: kind of setting you're setting traps for quarterbacks. I don't

654
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Speaker 1: think people realize that there's ways to set traps for

655
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks to your rush. In other words, I see I'm

656
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback and all of a sudden, I see this

657
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: that all opens up to me, and I okay, I

658
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: can climb up in here to throw the ball, or

659
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: I can take off and run. But as an offensive linement,

660
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: you're taught if somebody's leaving, somebody's coming, all right, And

661
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: so they can kind of say you know what, tendency wise,

662
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: this quarterback is comfortable. He likes to slide up into

663
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: the B gap on the left side, like that's where

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Speaker 1: he's really comfortable. So, you know, you can set traps

665
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Speaker 1: for them to feel like, oh, I've got I've got

666
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: space in here because somebody just left there. Well, guess what,

667
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: somebody else is coming in there. So I think you

668
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: can set coverage traps. You can set traps with your

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00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: pass rush as well. I think that's kind of some

670
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: next level stuff that the forty Niners. As I said,

671
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: they do what the Eagles do it it's it's fascinating stuff.

672
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: It is fascinating stuff. And that's why when you're doing

673
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: those kinds of things, that's why you need a mix

674
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: of experience on your team as well. When you look

675
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: at the Eagles, they're not a team that is super

676
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: young all across the board. There's a mix of the

677
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: young guys that are developing, and some of those guys

678
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: are in those backstop positions while you have the older

679
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: guys still contributed as part of rotation and they're able

680
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: to parlay that experience and expertise into playmaking production. Um,

681
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, we we we continue to really go on

682
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: and on about the team. But another thing that has

683
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: been popularized by the Philadelphia Eagles going way back, their

684
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: team that has always played a deep rotation of players

685
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: on their phlimline. Um, you know, going back to Chip

686
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: Kelly and the hockey line shifts and all that other stuff.

687
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: Did you if you want a team that has experienced,

688
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: you gotta play. They play their young players. They play

689
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: nine ten deep on the D line, and they're unafraid

690
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: to put dudes out there. They will put those guys

691
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: out there. They will playing because they know you want

692
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: to keep throwing bodies and bodies and bodies to wear

693
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: down the opponent. That's been a huge part of their success.

694
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like the secret sauce. Yeah, and I

695
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: look at with their team in particular, letna give you

696
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: a couple of names to keep an eye on that

697
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: they have added in the mix here and what you

698
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: can anticipate for seeing them on Super Bowl Sunday. When

699
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: you look at in Dominican Sue, you look at lin

700
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,479
Speaker 1: Vaal Joseph and then if you if you throw another

701
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: older player there and Fletcher Cox. Those three guys, right,

702
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: those three guys were premier players at their position at

703
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: one point in time in their career. Now they're not anymore.

704
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: They're older. But when you add into the fact that

705
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have to play a ton of snaps

706
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: in this game, because they rotate guys and keep them fresh,

707
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: and you add in the fact that they've had two

708
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: weeks of rest, you might get and Brandon Graham is

709
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: probably another one I would throw in there. That's four

710
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: veteran guys that you might see glimpses of who they

711
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: were on this stage and they only have to do

712
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: it for ten to twelve snaps buck, so that ability

713
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: is still tucked in there. Now, if they were gonna

714
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: have to play fifty sixty snaps, okay, the age is

715
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: gonna show up that you know. You don't think you'd

716
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: you'd like what you see, But with their veteran ability

717
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: and their talent and knowing the stage that they're on,

718
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: I bet you see some impressive stuff from those guys

719
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: and attend to twelve snap situation reminds me of the

720
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: vol Miler situation last you with the rams right, how

721
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: turn it on? They pick it up because the one

722
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: thing that veterans have the body clock. The body knows

723
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: when we're get into those times when it's winner go home,

724
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: when the urgency is needed, they can kind of kind

725
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: of dust it off maybe one more time, uh to

726
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: do it. The other thing that you get when you

727
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: get those premier players. Can you imagine imagine the knowledge

728
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: that has shared in those film sessions between them and

729
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: those young guys. Can you imagine the tutorial that Jordan

730
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: Davis is getting every day when he's in the room

731
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Speaker 1: with and Dominican sue lynvol Joseph and Fletcher Cox and

732
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: how they're talking about how to win and the variety

733
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 1: of different things that you can do the win games.

734
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: And that doesn't even include Jordan Hargrave has been in

735
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: that mix. But just think about the knowledge. When I

736
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: was in Green Bay, Ron Wolf used to do this

737
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: every year doing down the stretch. He would always sign

738
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Speaker 1: a kgo Vett who might not be able to play,

739
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: but you bring him in the locker room because they

740
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: understand that stage, the environment, the situation, and what it

741
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: does is in the locker room that guy is able

742
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: to share as some stuff that maybe coaches can't share

743
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: about the moment and the opportunity and those things you

744
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: cannot underestimate what those guys are not only given as

745
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: players on the field, but the behind the scenes stuff

746
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: that they've given in film sessions to help their young guys,

747
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: the next generation get ready to play, maybe not this year,

748
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: but in future years when they have another opportunity to

749
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: play on the stage like this, and those guys then

750
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: end up getting becoming leaders and becoming good players, and

751
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: then they turn around they pass it off. It's a machine.

752
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: It's a machine. Really. Both these teams have done a

753
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 1: nice job of building the machine, and they've been able

754
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: to absorb losses, you know, guys coming and going because

755
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: the next wave is ready to go. Um. All right, well,

756
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: there you go. There's a look at the Philadelphia Eagles

757
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: and how they were built. We're gonna take another break.

758
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: We come back, we'll we'll we'll polish this episode off

759
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: with a look back at the Senior Bowl in the

760
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: East West Shrine Bowl and what we saw from the

761
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: talent on display. We'll do that right after this. All right, back,

762
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: let's let's jump back in here and discuss what we

763
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: saw in these All Star games. I mentioned it at

764
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: the top. I got a chance to watch you guys,

765
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: great coverage at the East West Shrine Bowl. Um, you

766
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: and Rhet were fantastic. Cynthia was there as well. The

767
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: yammer uh doing work. It was to watch you guys

768
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: do your thing there. Um. Biggest takeaway for you from

769
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: that game? What did you see? What can what can

770
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: we learn from it? I think scouts need to really

771
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: pay close attention to the tape. I think there's another

772
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: James Houston somewhere in that group, meaning a late round

773
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: draft pick that plays at a high level and has

774
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: immediate production as a pass rusher. We talked about the

775
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: premium positions, DJ. We talked about pass rushers and those things.

776
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: But the one thing that's been proven justin looking at

777
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, you can find pass rushers at any

778
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: stage of the draft. And a couple of guys come

779
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: to mind for me, Kayla Murphy UH from fair As State, DJ,

780
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: and I've told you about the AZZI is m Ozzy

781
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: k Newsom talked about pass like sack production translates to

782
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: the pros. Well, when you get twenty six and a

783
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: half sacks in a C season, UH, that is significant.

784
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: Stet six and a half sacks, thirty nine tackles for

785
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: loss in one season all time record in any level

786
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: of n C Double A football. He showed up, showed out,

787
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: did the same thing at the East West Front. B J.

788
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: Thompson from Stephen F. Austin UM. He's in our our

789
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: friend Bruce Felman's Freaks list in terms of his athleticism

790
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: and those things. Six three six, four forty pounds, uh

791
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: is gonna run sub four five, has a big vertical

792
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: long arms, had sixteen sacks last couple of years, sacks

793
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: to quarterback again in the East West. And so when

794
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: your team's looking for those guys that kind of might

795
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: fall through the cracks, those two names will meet names

796
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: that we might continue to hear about in future years,

797
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: about guys who emerge as very productive pass rushes because

798
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: they have that in their DNA. It's interesting you had

799
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: that there at your game because the probably the biggest

800
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: takeaway from the Senior Bowl was, you know, was the

801
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: combination that we had along the offensive line. I'll get

802
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: to the quarterbacks situation just a second, but when you

803
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: look at John Michael Schmidt's from Minnesota, looks like a

804
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: day one starting center. O Cyrus Torrence from Florida is

805
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna be probably end up being a first round pick

806
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: as a guard. Um, you look at Steve a Vila

807
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: from TCU, three two pounds, can play center, can play guard,

808
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: Gonna be a Day one starter. Uh, Darnell right the

809
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: right tackle from Tennessee, going to be a Day one starter.

810
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: Vergion from Syracuse. You know as could play inside, could

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Speaker 1: play outside. He's three twenty three pounds. Um, he's going

812
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: to be a starter. So I just thought that's a

813
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: good group of offensive line starters that are ready to

814
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: go right now. And then, you know, for a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that's made the most of his opportunity, I would say

816
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: probably Jake Haner from Fresno State. Nothing about him is

817
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: is physically imposing. Um doesn't have you know, any you

818
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: know trait that just screams at you. But he has

819
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: a live arm. Um, he can move around a little

820
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: bit with his feet, and he can make every throw.

821
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Speaker 1: So when you look at brock Purty and his success,

822
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna see the exact same size. You're gonna see

823
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: the exact type of competitiveness from him. Um, I think

824
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: he could benefit from it. I I talked to our

825
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: buddy Matt Campbell the other day. I'm talking about a

826
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: couple of his guys who were playing in the Senior Bowl,

827
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: and I asked him. I said, hey, brock Purty, like,

828
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: tell me what do you think that we all missed

829
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: on that you know, and we can debate. I don't

830
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: know if we're not saying brock Purty's going to Hall

831
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Speaker 1: of Fame, but he's clearly was better than being Mr.

832
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: Irrelevant and did not lose a game this year when

833
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: he was healthy. He said, what do we miss and

834
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: he used a great phrase book he said competitive excellence?

835
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Speaker 1: And I'm okay. I said, well, tell me what you

836
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: mean by that. He said competitive excellence. He said, if

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Speaker 1: you look back at his background in high school, he said,

838
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: he was at a middle middle tier high school, took

839
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: him to a state championship. He comes to Iowa State

840
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: and he's not trashing on his own program, but look

841
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: at the heights that he took Iowa State to, Like

842
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: that's not a place they're accustomed to being. So you've

843
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: got those two examples. And then he said his competitiveness.

844
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: He showed up every day with that edge and with

845
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: the competitiveness like every day was ultra ultra, ultra dialed

846
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: in and true, a competitive like He kind of a

847
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: fighter to him, and he's like, that's the consistency of

848
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: doing that every day matters. And he said, that's not

849
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: gonna show up in a kind a drill. It's not

850
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: gonna show up when you get measured and all that

851
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But I thought, you know what competitive

852
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Speaker 1: excellence and Jake Haner I think has a little of

853
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Speaker 1: that to him. You know, he's thinking back to the

854
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Speaker 1: u c l A game a couple of years ago.

855
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: He willed them to victory there. They've won at Fresno

856
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: State in years past. That's not new. And you look

857
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: at the history of quarterbacks. They've had their obviously the

858
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: car Brothers still for they've had They've had guys. But

859
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: I think that's still when you're Fresno State and you're

860
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: beaten pack twelve teams. Uh, there's something to that, you know,

861
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: d going all the way back to when we were scouting,

862
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: remember there was always something specially about guys that came

863
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: from Fresno. Uh. They just kind of found a way

864
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: to make it and have success in the league. There's

865
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: something about the toughness that you have to have to

866
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: play in their program. Uh, they talk about being the

867
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: team in the valley when you look at a green

868
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: V on the back of their helmet. Um, there's something

869
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: to that. And the broad Pretty example is going to

870
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: be thrown out a ton in terms of teams looking

871
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: for quarter acts in the later rounds that can do

872
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: what brock Pretty was able to. Do. Uh, come in,

873
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: Uh handle the situation, managed the situation, and maybe find

874
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: a way to have success. His production and play in

875
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl is going to help him. Man, the

876
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: Prisiono State product really showed out, and it's gonna help

877
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: him because we're gonna have that conversation and scouts this

878
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 1: year will be less likely to be dismissive of later

879
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: round prospects, those throwaways that maybe the vastly uh he

880
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: can't play. The fact that brought Pretty has success and

881
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: the fact that we have seventy plus quarterbacks played this year,

882
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: you got it. You have to be I won't say

883
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: a little more lenient, but you gotta be a little

884
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: more imaginative on terms of, hey, this guy may have

885
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: to play, how can he have success? When you're reading

886
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: the report to your co workers, Yeah, no, it's a

887
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: it's a great call. Um, It's something to keep an

888
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: eye on. Is is, you know, continue to address that

889
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: quarterback position on an early basis. It's a it's a

890
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: lesson that that your old boss, round Wolf I think

891
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: taught the rest of the league, and I think it's

892
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: never been more appropriate than it is right now. Um,

893
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: anything else you want to add, Buck before we jump

894
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: out of here, and again, we'll have tons of draft talk,

895
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: um as we get through the week. Probably a little

896
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: more super Bowl stuff on our next episode. But gosh,

897
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: dang man, I was looking at that date like you

898
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: were the combine and I was like, I'm doing you

899
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: start doing the math right, I'm like, look at the

900
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: number of guys I need to watch, And then I

901
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: look at I'm like, wait a second, that's that's coming

902
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: up a little quicker than I thought. Many day by

903
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: day you gotta check off, got to get a handful

904
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: days done. You can get a number of guys done

905
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: day by day. So that's that's a great way for

906
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: us to to wrap this up. Because I don't know

907
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: if anybody's listening or watching that's ever wondered where the

908
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: move the sticks name came from. I've explained it many times.

909
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: I Phil Savage when you talk when I worked with

910
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: him in Baltimore and he was running the scouting department.

911
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: He said, this is your first time scouting. You go

912
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: out on the road. It's a lot of reports you've

913
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: got to keep track of. We're not gonna look over

914
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: your shoulder. But he said, the important thing is every day,

915
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: just move the sticks. Just get a little bit every day.

916
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: If you just keep getting a little bit done every day,

917
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: get first downs, not touchdowns, but just make progress every day.

918
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: By the time we get to the end of the fall,

919
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: you'll be okay. You'll you'll be on track, you'll get

920
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: it done. But that's got to be the mindset. Move

921
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: the sticks. That's that's where we have the name of

922
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: that I didn't I didn't know that. Don't tell anybody

923
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: because I don't want to have to cut filling on

924
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: any of the on any of the sweet sweet Moved

925
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: the Sticks business that we've got rolling here. Anyways, I

926
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Speaker 1: hope you guys have enjoyed it. We'll be back again

927
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Speaker 1: this week and we'll look continue to look at the

928
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Appreciate you hanging with us. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next time. Right here on Moved the Sticks