WEBVTT - Vintage Ferrari Mechanic Arrest; Ducati CEO Interview 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.760 I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:03.400 hot pursuit. 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:11.600 All right, we are pretty excited. I'm definitely personally very excited. Dukati, 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.520 I will admit, is one of my favorite brands. It's 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:17.480 one of my favorite products. I've been riding them for 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.960 twenty five years now. And we have the CEO of. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.439 Dukati, Claudio Dominicali, not related to the head of Formula One, 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:26.960 exactly different, Dominicolgy. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.960 Yes, Stefano Domenicali, who did run Lamborghini and now runs 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.400 F one. They're not related, but they're both like in 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.000 the motor Valley and Formula one and Moto GP are 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:38.280 going to be getting close. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.200 It's huge. Yeah, I actually think it's a really big deal. 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.199 Yeah, Liberty Media, which owns Formula one, is going to 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:49.040 buy Dorna and which runs Moto GP. So now the 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.599 hope is that Moto GP can grow even close to 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:53.640 the level of F one. 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:56.600 I mean, do you think that we're going to see 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.480 weekends that have F one and Motorji. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.800 To me, that's way too much because I already like 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:07.240 I'm watching practice, free practice, I'm watching qualifying, I'm watching 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:11.000 the Sprint race commitment. Yeah, and so doing both would 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.360 be hard. You know, my father in law he watches 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.480 both and I don't even know how is he retired? 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.160 Is he he must be retired. 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:23.560 No, No, he's a professor of architecture in Pamplona. In 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.560 any case, yeah, I think it's going to be a 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:27.280 lot to put them both together. But we'll talk about 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.240 that with Claudio as well as his bikes. And we've 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.160 also asked him to tell us give us a list 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.920 of what he thinks are I said the most beautiful 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:37.600 cars are the best designed cars. 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:39.400 But I think I was shocked at his answer. 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.000 Yeah, he gives us a list of I think, just 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:43.759 cars that he wants in his garage fans. 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.399 I think so. I think he's a little sensitive about 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.800 the garage issue because that's private. But you know, you 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.440 do get the feeling he's got his eye on a 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:52.200 few things. 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:55.320 Yes, and but not the like two point fifty gto that. 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.120 I thought he was going to say, yeah, right, I 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.600 know we're also going to well, you've driven the Ford 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:01.960 F two fifty. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.800 King Ranch King ran the eight diesel with. 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:09.720 The high output diesel motor SO six seven powerstroke, twelve 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.600 hundred pound feet of tours, Tolark, I know, I want 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.720 to hear about your experiences with that. And then you've 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.360 got a couple of cool stories on the terminal. Let's 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.880 kick it off with the Ferrari story. On the terminal. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.760 There's a mechanic who's incredibly well known, I think, certainly 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.440 in LA. What's the deal with Donnie? 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:34.720 Yeah, so this was an interesting story. On April first, 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:40.160 this Ferrari mechanic named Donnie Callaway, who is prominent in 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:48.160 certain Ferrari circles, was arrested on multiple charges of felony, theft, trafficking, 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:52.160 stolen property, forgery, and fraud. He was arrested in Arizona. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.079 There was something that sources were saying with a sting 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.720 operation where he was selling a couple of Ferraris that 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.960 did not allegedly belong to him. So this was a 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:08.560 big deal because Calloway has been featured on Jay Leno's show. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:14.560 Matt Farrah has sent his Countosh and his Ferrari to Donnie. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.959 I actually spoke with Matt, and Matt's comment on the 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.720 record was that he did fill Donnie gave him good 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.720 service at a fair price. But obviously there's a lot 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.560 here and when we really dug into the story, we 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.480 found out that Callaway has quite a long track record 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.200 of what I will call legal skirmishes dating back to 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:38.680 the nineties. So a very interesting story. He's currently in 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:42.400 jail in Arizona and there's a trial schedule for August. 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:47.800 Wow, it's huge for I mean car geeks, especially if 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.440 you listen to like the Smoking Tire, you hear about 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:52.240 him all the time. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:57.000 And it's also it's I mean just I think it's 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.760 fascinating because it kind of shows that, hey, no matter 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.880 if you're a very wealthy Ferrari owner, you always got 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:08.040 to be on the lookout for mechanics, you know. And 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:08.800 it's every. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.680 Specially I think, especially right, you're a wealthy Ferrari, right. 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.560 And you know it's all of us who dabble in 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:19.080 classic cars or whatever have this nightmare scenario about dealing 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.000 with a mechanic who's not on the up and up, 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.200 or a mechanic who holds our cars and charges us 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.200 a bunch of money to get out. I'm not saying 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.280 that's what Donnie did. This is all alleged, but I'm 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.600 just saying in general, in theory, that's like our worst 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.320 nightmare and it can happen to anyone, and it just 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.400 really makes me think, Man, you've got to be careful 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.200 about where you send your cars. 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:44.479 Yeah. No, absolutely, so very interesting story. I recommend people 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.760 check that out. You can see it on Bloomberg dot com. 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.440 If you're a client, you can see it on the terminal. 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.719 Just bio Hannah Elliott two l's, two t's. That's it 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.680 the the I really want to get your take on 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.200 the F two fifty because you haven't told me. We 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.440 text each other obviously and I call you sometimes, but 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.799 you haven't told me anything about it. And my take 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.080 on this big truck is that, obviously it's a work truck, 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.880 so it's meant for you know, jobs, but I feel 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.800 like all the torque makes it quite luxurious to drive. 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.000 What do you Yeah? So okay, I have to say 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.160 my disclaimer in front of all of this is, obviously 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.320 I did not take it to a work site. I 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.880 was not a contractor using the truck how it really 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:26.679 should be used. 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:28.919 So and it had the tremor pack. Did it have 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:29.800 the tremor package? 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.760 Yes, it had everything. This is like one hundred thousand 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:36.520 dollars truck. And I had fun I think I did 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.120 send you one photo mat which was of me at 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:44.640 home depot buying soil and you know, pretty flowers I saw, 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.279 woll I think, yeah, yeah, of course I put the 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:51.679 dog in it. I mean, it's fun. I actually drove 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:56.280 it to Riverside to look at some puppies out there, so, like, 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:01.840 I know, I had it out and about I you know, 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:07.599 it seemed great. It's big. Yes, the torque is incredible, 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:13.279 super fast, although I did not find it especially quick 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.920 once you get up to if you're trying to move 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.760 from forty five to fifty miles an hour to seventy 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.560 miles an hour, of course I started instantly missing all 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.920 my supercars and sports cars that I drive because this 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:28.360 truck doesn't have that type of punch where you can 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:33.360 hammer down from that speed. But from the line, I mean, 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.960 I was just burning everyone. It kind of makes you 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.560 drive like a jerk in a way completely, and it's fun. 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:43.880 It sounds super cool. I loved driving it because obviously, 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.320 this skinny white chick is not what you expect to 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.320 get out of that truck, and I'm very aware of that, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.039 but also in a way it's not It wasn't so 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.080 usable because I couldn't drive it to work because it 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:58.640 didn't fit in the parking garage. 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:02.000 True, I had with super duty and heavy duty trucks, 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:02.400 and I. 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.559 Had to park it up the street because it didn't 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:05.520 fit in the driveway. 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:05.880 Yep. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.640 So obviously the turning is not fantastic. 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:14.880 Yeah, but I have to say the interior. Here's a thing. 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:18.280 The interior had a lot of interesting details, like stitched 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.040 snakes and you know, etching. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.120 And I love I love the etch dash and the 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:23.560 king rim. 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.520 So I had a friend in that truck and she 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.960 thought it was damage. She thought somehow it had been scratched, 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.160 and I said, no, no, it's supposed to be like that. See, 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.760 it looks like a pretty design. And then she saw it. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.520 But at first she thought it was just like something right. 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:42.280 I can't understand the initial glance, Oh, someone just scraped 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.440 this up. But when you look, it's incredible. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.560 It is really ornate. It is really ornate. And of 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:52.560 course it's nice that the back is huge. I mean, 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.680 it's functional that you can put your lunch on the 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.120 center console. It's it seems made to have a crew 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:00.600 of guys with you. Let's put it that way. 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.200 Yeah, it's good. Fun and yeah, well I'm glad you 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:05.000 got to drive. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:06.320 I want to get into Chevy though. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.239 Yes, now, yeah you got to try the Silverado twenty 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:13.320 five hundred hd ZR two with their high output Duramax 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:14.800 YEA and the Alison Trum. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.120 I will say one more thing about this. I was 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:21.880 not impressed with how the car play and the infosttainment 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.640 synced with my phone. It was all over the place. No, 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.400 I mean, I'm used to being in syncing with Mercedes technology, 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.840 which is the most seamless, the fastest, and not to 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.280 sound like a brat, I'm just saying that's what I cover, 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.920 and so it was interesting to be in this in 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.640 the Ford and it just was not as quick as intuitive. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.040 It just felt a little like a couple of years old. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.600 I do think their infotainment system and this is the 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:52.800 Achilles heel for so many car makers these days. Leaves 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.080 a lot to be desired. Even car makers that have 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.480 achieved what I think is like near perfection, then they 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.280 then put out horrible like BMW was so great for 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.960 a while and now it's like so confusing. I know, 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.040 I know, it's like you think you don't need it, 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.520 and frankly, I'd either have a car or a bike 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.480 without it. But if it's going to be there, it 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:12.760 should be perfect. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.000 That's the thing. Because it starts to get a little 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:19.199 bit like a gnat that just gets in your space 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.200 and you just want to flick it away, but you 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:22.120 can't avoid it. 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.480 And what else drives me crazy is and I think 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.960 that I drove a King Ranch as well. Yeah, and 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.120 I didn't have any complaints about it this time. I 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.920 think they used the banging Olifson system. But a cross 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.120 manufacturer is not focused on forward but across manufacturers when 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:43.680 they license these names banging Olifsin or what's the one 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:47.720 that jeep Harmon Cardon? No, No, well they all sort 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.160 of have Harmon Carden to start as the bas system 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.480 and BMW as well, but the upgraded one on the 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.360 Jeep is a Macintosh, right, which is like, these are 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.640 twenty thousand dollars amplifiers if you want to buy on 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.120 for your house. And a lot of them have used 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:05.920 Bow's obviously in the past, and they never the sound systems. 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.319 It doesn't seem like the manufacturers are really trying their hardest. 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:09.320 I know. 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.280 And the thing is, if you get an amazing sound system, in, 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:17.080 but the truck itself or the vehicle is still not 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:21.120 on that level, like maybe there's some rattle, oh you know, 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:26.120 or poor acoustics in general, poor sound deadening, some rattle. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:28.280 You can't get around that. 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.000 I don't know why manufacturers just don't spend the extra 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:36.600 couple grand Yeah, put the top grade sound deadening and 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:41.880 put really good drivers and amplifiers and cables and lots 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.000 more money. I know, but some have done it, like 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.120 the Meridian in the range Rover is amazing. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:46.880 Yeah. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.120 Yeah, In any case, that's always been a pet pew 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:51.840 of mine. I finally want to ask you about Formula 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.720 one before we get to Dukati, because you have a piece, 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.080 oh yes, about how to do Formal one on a budget. 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.880 Going to these race is and living this life is 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.439 so expensive that most of us, and also I prefer 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.440 sometimes to watch it on TV. But if you do 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.640 want to hang with the crowd, you know, at the 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.800 Grand Prix, can you do it on a budget. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:16.280 Yes, you can if you are careful about how you 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:21.880 define budget. And I think you know I agree with you. 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.480 First of all, I myself wouldn't be spending my own 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.680 personal money to go to most of these races. It's 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.560 really expensive. I go because it's part of my job. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.600 But you're so right, and I don't think it's unfair 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.480 that a lot of Americans just hear Formula one and 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:40.479 think automatically, this is too expensive. You know, this is elitist. 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:44.840 They imagine Monaco in the seventies or something, and part 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:48.480 of that is not wrong. But there are ways that 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.480 if you decide this is going to be our special 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.040 thing and we want to do Formula one, there are 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.360 ways certainly that you can save money. I mean, the 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:00.120 biggest to me, the biggest, most obvious one is and 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.360 this is gonna maybe hurt a little bit, but don't 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:07.120 go on race day. Go go for the qualifying rounds 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:12.600 and practice rounds because tickets for those are far less expensive. 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.080 But you still get the bulk of the atmosphere. You 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.560 still get to see cars going around a track, You'll 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.600 still get to see drivers, You'll still get a lot 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.640 of it. But it will save you hundreds of dollars 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.080 in tickets alone and passes and all that. I know 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:29.079 that's a controversial thing. 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.400 No, actually I think it's a great, great idea because well, 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.520 I don't know about F one, but if I go 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:38.439 to Moto GP on just for free practice or qualifying. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.199 It's less crowded. It's easier for me to move around, 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.200 and I have a much better chance of seeing pilots 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.640 or seeing mechanics and actually talking to people getting my 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:53.080 picture taken, because you know, that's not the huge mob completely. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.840 And I have to say at the Jetta race, I 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.760 was actually there on qualifying and I've had so much 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.080 and you're right, the crowds are far less crazy and 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:07.360 you just kind of feel like an insider, which is cool. Yeah, 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:08.200 I like that. 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.120 And then you get to watch the race on TV 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:14.000 at your hotel and it's frankly, it's much better. I mean, 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:18.520 obviously the sound and the feeling of the engines is intense, 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.880 but you get that in qualifying, and then yes you do. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:22.959 Watching the race is much better on TV because you 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.120 can actually you're not at one corner. 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.800 And I love hearing the commentary and that's really how 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.040 you learn when you're able. It's like the old guys 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.000 who would go to the Dodger games with like radio 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.400 earpieces listening to commentary, but they're sitting in the seats. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.880 But they're sitting in the cheap seats. But I mean 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:43.160 to me, that's actually more interesting because you get a high, 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:47.520 higher level perspective while some of the atmosphere. 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.320 I agree with you, yeah, one hundred percent. I would 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.000 never thought about it, but you're right, yeah. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.200 Yeah so. And the other thing I would just say, 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:57.000 like on the idea of a budget is obviously local 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.920 races that are closer to you are probably going to 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:04.680 be cheaper. For instance, you know, if you're in Los Angeles, 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.280 you've got Austin, but you've also got Vegas, and then 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.520 you've also got Mexico City, which the flight actually to 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.160 Mexico City might be cheaper than you know, a flight 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.960 to Montreal or obviously to England. So like, really be 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:21.600 careful about which race you choose, and don't assume that 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.920 Monaco is the most expensive race. It's actually not ticket wise, 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.040 So yeah, it pays to do your research at. 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:41.000 Homore, I think Apropos our next guest, it makes sense 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.360 to segue in from F one to Moto GP and 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:48.200 Fromoter GP to the Branning World champions I've known Claudio 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.520 for probably I don't know, over a. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:54.160 Decade, at least maybe close to two. I've obviously been 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.600 a du Katisti for at least two decades, more like three. 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.200 I got my first Monster in nineteen nine. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.400 I actually learned to ride motorcycles at a Monster too, 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.160 so we have a lot in common and it was 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.920 a very great experience, I have to say, so permanently 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:11.480 endeared me to Dakati. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.840 And Claudy has been there even longer, right, Claudia, you 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.000 started in nineteen ninety one, is that correct? 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:17.160 Yeah? You know it all. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.200 Yes, I heard that you don't want to talk about liberty, 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.680 but we obviously have to ask a little bit about 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:23.640 Moto GP, and. 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:24.880 This is exciting. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.840 First off, I've been rooting for Dukati and Moto GP 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.520 for many years and it hasn't been since Casey Stoner 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:36.880 that we were successful until Peko, and now you're defending 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.640 a third world championship for a third year, or the 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.120 possibility of a third year. What is it like to 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:46.160 be not just on top, but to absolutely dominate in 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:46.680 the sport? 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.280 Yeah, it's very nice, I have to admit, and actually 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:56.480 I've been quite a long path to get there, because 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:00.120 you know, with Casey who won the championship quick, but 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:05.720 then it was more complicate and many as difficult. But 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.080 finally we were able to put together the proper team 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.920 of people rather make a big difference, but the whole 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:17.480 team when you're not doing once, but you do twice 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:21.280 and then actually are still even in the beginning of 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.560 the third championship like we are now, always fight for 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.320 the audium position or even for the win, means there. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:32.520 Is a system. It's not just coincidence or Lakia Claudia. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.160 I'm so curious. You know, we're talking about dominance in 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.560 a racing series, and you know I follow and cover 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.920 Formula one a lot. I'm curious about how closely you 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.760 relate to like a red ball that is so dominant 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:49.560 in F one right now? Are there parallels between your 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:53.400 dominance and Moto GP and red bulls dominance in Formula. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:57.160 One similar in a way? For sure in term of 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:57.600 a result. 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:04.240 Actually, what we can say maybe is that in motojiped 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:08.000 there are more than you do ctis, so actually the 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:13.240 races are there's more competition now and so it's a 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:18.199 lot of more uncertainty. And on the other side, in 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:22.920 terms of technological position of our bike, it's for sure 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:27.040 very good. I have to say that Formula one, the 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.120 car makes maybe a bit of a difference, more difference, 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.240 and so once you get their dynamic right or the 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:39.960 package right for the other are very complicated. In in bike, 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.560 bikes are closer one with the other, so difference are 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.000 less and so competition is very close. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.120 What do you think about the fact that the European 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.199 brands are doing so well. Obviously Ducati, you know, is 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.600 winning all the races, but KTM is doing well, and 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.440 Aprilia shows a lot of promise. At the same time, 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:03.200 Honda is doing badly, Yamaha is doing badly, Suzuki quit. 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.280 What's that all about? The Japanese brands are all at 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.320 the bottom, all of a sudden, and the European brands 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:10.000 are at the top. 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.879 So I think there's been a kind of in the 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.680 last five ten years. So it's not coming just in 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:23.840 the last year. It's been a very strong innovation stream 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.440 that I think you cut it made better than anyone else, 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.600 and then some other follow us more closely, and some 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:35.600 others find more difficult to follow. And the bike's technology 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:36.919 for a long time. 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.840 It's been quite conventional, and some. 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:46.439 Brands or some factories or some companies are very goodly refining, 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.400 and so you keep refining and doing a bit better 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:50.720 and a bit better, but. 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:54.320 In a concept which is very almost the same. 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.560 While if you take a picture of a bike of 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.600 ten years ago a picture of a bike of today, 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:03.840 and you can't give today it's a completely different animal. 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:08.959 What is your thought about growing the popularity of MotoGP, 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.680 especially in the US. I know there's I think one 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:15.240 American team racing, but you know, not to bring it 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.840 back to Formula one again. But we've seen, of course 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.439 F one really take off in the past few years. 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.760 Do you think about, oh, we should try to do 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:27.639 a similar move with MotoGP with that benefited or is 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.960 that not really part of your consideration on a day to. 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.080 Day No, I think it's a fantastic opportunity. 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:37.760 We are mega happy about this thing of liberty media 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:46.840 taking a kind of the global control of MUNTIJP. Still, 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.080 of course it's not. 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.280 In action. It will take time and. 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:57.440 Then there are still some validation process. But for sure 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.720 are the potential of a sport which is tactular like 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:05.760 montogp in US is dramatic, you know, so we are 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.080 may excited about that because we are so much invested 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:15.439 into manto GP and we are very well known and 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:20.560 recognized as the leading technological brand. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.280 And so the benefit for our brand. 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:27.480 For Lukati in US of the growing popularity of Manto GP, 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:34.280 going above and beyond just the community of the hardcore bicas, 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:38.440 but getting wider. It's very very interesting for us. 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.720 I should point out that Cloudio obviously the CEO of Ducati, 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.240 the whole company, so he's thinking about other things besides racing. 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:49.000 But if I'm not mistaken, Cloudio, you came up through Coursa, right, 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:52.000 you came up and ran the racing division before you 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:55.520 took over the broader company, so you're pretty invested in 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:56.639 the racing side of things. 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:01.480 Yeah. I actually, you know, we founded Dukati Course in 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.560 nineteen ninety nine and there was in an notary studio 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:08.399 actually signing the document of when du Cate Coursu was 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:12.360 born and we created that company in order to enter 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:15.720 into MOTOGPI. It's already more than twenty years ago, and 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.080 then it was managing director of Ducti Course for the 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:19.840 first part of. 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:22.240 My career in that days. 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:26.879 So yes, I'm very committed to racing. 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:31.480 But actually racing and Dukati are very committed anyhow, you know, 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:33.160 it's part of the passion. 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.840 And the reason why dukatisti or ducatisti, you know, this 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.600 kind of getting into a club which is not only 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:43.160 about adding a motorcycle, but I being a much broader 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:48.879 sense of community and much broader sense of belonging. 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:52.680 You know, I'm so curious. You've mentioned leading the forefront 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:54.919