1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: hot pursuit. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: All right, we are pretty excited. I'm definitely personally very excited. Dukati, 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: I will admit, is one of my favorite brands. It's 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: one of my favorite products. I've been riding them for 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: twenty five years now. And we have the CEO of. 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: Dukati, Claudio Dominicali, not related to the head of Formula One, 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: exactly different, Dominicolgy. 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: Yes, Stefano Domenicali, who did run Lamborghini and now runs 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: F one. They're not related, but they're both like in 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: the motor Valley and Formula one and Moto GP are 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: going to be getting close. 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: It's huge. Yeah, I actually think it's a really big deal. 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, Liberty Media, which owns Formula one, is going to 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: buy Dorna and which runs Moto GP. So now the 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 2: hope is that Moto GP can grow even close to 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: the level of F one. 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that we're going to see 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: weekends that have F one and Motorji. 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: To me, that's way too much because I already like 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: I'm watching practice, free practice, I'm watching qualifying, I'm watching 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: the Sprint race commitment. Yeah, and so doing both would 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: be hard. You know, my father in law he watches 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: both and I don't even know how is he retired? 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Is he he must be retired. 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: No, No, he's a professor of architecture in Pamplona. In 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: any case, yeah, I think it's going to be a 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: lot to put them both together. But we'll talk about 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: that with Claudio as well as his bikes. And we've 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: also asked him to tell us give us a list 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: of what he thinks are I said the most beautiful 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: cars are the best designed cars. 33 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: But I think I was shocked at his answer. 34 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he gives us a list of I think, just 35 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: cars that he wants in his garage fans. 36 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: I think so. I think he's a little sensitive about 37 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: the garage issue because that's private. But you know, you 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: do get the feeling he's got his eye on a 39 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: few things. 40 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: Yes, and but not the like two point fifty gto that. 41 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: I thought he was going to say, yeah, right, I 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: know we're also going to well, you've driven the Ford 43 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: F two fifty. 44 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: King Ranch King ran the eight diesel with. 45 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: The high output diesel motor SO six seven powerstroke, twelve 46 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: hundred pound feet of tours, Tolark, I know, I want 47 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: to hear about your experiences with that. And then you've 48 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: got a couple of cool stories on the terminal. Let's 49 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: kick it off with the Ferrari story. On the terminal. 50 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: There's a mechanic who's incredibly well known, I think, certainly 51 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: in LA. What's the deal with Donnie? 52 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this was an interesting story. On April first, 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: this Ferrari mechanic named Donnie Callaway, who is prominent in 54 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: certain Ferrari circles, was arrested on multiple charges of felony, theft, trafficking, 55 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: stolen property, forgery, and fraud. He was arrested in Arizona. 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: There was something that sources were saying with a sting 57 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: operation where he was selling a couple of Ferraris that 58 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: did not allegedly belong to him. So this was a 59 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: big deal because Calloway has been featured on Jay Leno's show. 60 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: Matt Farrah has sent his Countosh and his Ferrari to Donnie. 61 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: I actually spoke with Matt, and Matt's comment on the 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: record was that he did fill Donnie gave him good 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: service at a fair price. But obviously there's a lot 64 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: here and when we really dug into the story, we 65 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: found out that Callaway has quite a long track record 66 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: of what I will call legal skirmishes dating back to 67 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: the nineties. So a very interesting story. He's currently in 68 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: jail in Arizona and there's a trial schedule for August. 69 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: Wow, it's huge for I mean car geeks, especially if 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: you listen to like the Smoking Tire, you hear about 71 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: him all the time. 72 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: And it's also it's I mean just I think it's 73 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: fascinating because it kind of shows that, hey, no matter 74 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: if you're a very wealthy Ferrari owner, you always got 75 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: to be on the lookout for mechanics, you know. And 76 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: it's every. 77 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: Specially I think, especially right, you're a wealthy Ferrari, right. 78 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: And you know it's all of us who dabble in 79 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: classic cars or whatever have this nightmare scenario about dealing 80 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: with a mechanic who's not on the up and up, 81 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: or a mechanic who holds our cars and charges us 82 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of money to get out. I'm not saying 83 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: that's what Donnie did. This is all alleged, but I'm 84 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: just saying in general, in theory, that's like our worst 85 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: nightmare and it can happen to anyone, and it just 86 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: really makes me think, Man, you've got to be careful 87 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: about where you send your cars. 88 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, absolutely, so very interesting story. I recommend people 89 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: check that out. You can see it on Bloomberg dot com. 90 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: If you're a client, you can see it on the terminal. 91 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: Just bio Hannah Elliott two l's, two t's. That's it 92 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: the the I really want to get your take on 93 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: the F two fifty because you haven't told me. We 94 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: text each other obviously and I call you sometimes, but 95 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 2: you haven't told me anything about it. And my take 96 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: on this big truck is that, obviously it's a work truck, 97 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: so it's meant for you know, jobs, but I feel 98 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: like all the torque makes it quite luxurious to drive. 99 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: What do you Yeah? So okay, I have to say 100 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: my disclaimer in front of all of this is, obviously 101 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: I did not take it to a work site. I 102 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: was not a contractor using the truck how it really 103 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 1: should be used. 104 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: So and it had the tremor pack. Did it have 105 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: the tremor package? 106 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: Yes, it had everything. This is like one hundred thousand 107 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: dollars truck. And I had fun I think I did 108 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: send you one photo mat which was of me at 109 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: home depot buying soil and you know, pretty flowers I saw, 110 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: woll I think, yeah, yeah, of course I put the 111 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 1: dog in it. I mean, it's fun. I actually drove 112 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: it to Riverside to look at some puppies out there, so, like, 113 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: I know, I had it out and about I you know, 114 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: it seemed great. It's big. Yes, the torque is incredible, 115 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: super fast, although I did not find it especially quick 116 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: once you get up to if you're trying to move 117 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: from forty five to fifty miles an hour to seventy 118 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: miles an hour, of course I started instantly missing all 119 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: my supercars and sports cars that I drive because this 120 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: truck doesn't have that type of punch where you can 121 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: hammer down from that speed. But from the line, I mean, 122 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: I was just burning everyone. It kind of makes you 123 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: drive like a jerk in a way completely, and it's fun. 124 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: It sounds super cool. I loved driving it because obviously, 125 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: this skinny white chick is not what you expect to 126 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: get out of that truck, and I'm very aware of that, 127 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: but also in a way it's not It wasn't so 128 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: usable because I couldn't drive it to work because it 129 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: didn't fit in the parking garage. 130 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: True, I had with super duty and heavy duty trucks, 131 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: and I. 132 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,559 Speaker 1: Had to park it up the street because it didn't 133 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: fit in the driveway. 134 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: Yep. 135 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: So obviously the turning is not fantastic. 136 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I have to say the interior. Here's a thing. 137 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: The interior had a lot of interesting details, like stitched 138 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: snakes and you know, etching. 139 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: And I love I love the etch dash and the 140 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: king rim. 141 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: So I had a friend in that truck and she 142 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: thought it was damage. She thought somehow it had been scratched, 143 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: and I said, no, no, it's supposed to be like that. See, 144 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: it looks like a pretty design. And then she saw it. 145 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: But at first she thought it was just like something right. 146 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: I can't understand the initial glance, Oh, someone just scraped 147 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: this up. But when you look, it's incredible. 148 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: It is really ornate. It is really ornate. And of 149 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: course it's nice that the back is huge. I mean, 150 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: it's functional that you can put your lunch on the 151 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: center console. It's it seems made to have a crew 152 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: of guys with you. Let's put it that way. 153 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. Fun and yeah, well I'm glad you 154 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: got to drive. 155 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: I want to get into Chevy though. 156 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 2: Yes, now, yeah you got to try the Silverado twenty 157 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: five hundred hd ZR two with their high output Duramax 158 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: YEA and the Alison Trum. 159 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: I will say one more thing about this. I was 160 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: not impressed with how the car play and the infosttainment 161 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: synced with my phone. It was all over the place. No, 162 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm used to being in syncing with Mercedes technology, 163 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: which is the most seamless, the fastest, and not to 164 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: sound like a brat, I'm just saying that's what I cover, 165 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: and so it was interesting to be in this in 166 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: the Ford and it just was not as quick as intuitive. 167 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: It just felt a little like a couple of years old. 168 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: I do think their infotainment system and this is the 169 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: Achilles heel for so many car makers these days. Leaves 170 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: a lot to be desired. Even car makers that have 171 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: achieved what I think is like near perfection, then they 172 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: then put out horrible like BMW was so great for 173 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: a while and now it's like so confusing. I know, 174 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: I know, it's like you think you don't need it, 175 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: and frankly, I'd either have a car or a bike 176 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: without it. But if it's going to be there, it 177 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: should be perfect. 178 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: That's the thing. Because it starts to get a little 179 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: bit like a gnat that just gets in your space 180 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: and you just want to flick it away, but you 181 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: can't avoid it. 182 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: And what else drives me crazy is and I think 183 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: that I drove a King Ranch as well. Yeah, and 184 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: I didn't have any complaints about it this time. I 185 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: think they used the banging Olifson system. But a cross 186 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: manufacturer is not focused on forward but across manufacturers when 187 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: they license these names banging Olifsin or what's the one 188 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: that jeep Harmon Cardon? No, No, well they all sort 189 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: of have Harmon Carden to start as the bas system 190 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: and BMW as well, but the upgraded one on the 191 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: Jeep is a Macintosh, right, which is like, these are 192 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars amplifiers if you want to buy on 193 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: for your house. And a lot of them have used 194 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: Bow's obviously in the past, and they never the sound systems. 195 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like the manufacturers are really trying their hardest. 196 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: I know. 197 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: And the thing is, if you get an amazing sound system, in, 198 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: but the truck itself or the vehicle is still not 199 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: on that level, like maybe there's some rattle, oh you know, 200 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: or poor acoustics in general, poor sound deadening, some rattle. 201 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: You can't get around that. 202 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: I don't know why manufacturers just don't spend the extra 203 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: couple grand Yeah, put the top grade sound deadening and 204 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: put really good drivers and amplifiers and cables and lots 205 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: more money. I know, but some have done it, like 206 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: the Meridian in the range Rover is amazing. 207 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 208 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, In any case, that's always been a pet pew 209 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: of mine. I finally want to ask you about Formula 210 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: one before we get to Dukati, because you have a piece, 211 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: oh yes, about how to do Formal one on a budget. 212 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: Going to these race is and living this life is 213 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: so expensive that most of us, and also I prefer 214 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: sometimes to watch it on TV. But if you do 215 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: want to hang with the crowd, you know, at the 216 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: Grand Prix, can you do it on a budget. 217 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: Yes, you can if you are careful about how you 218 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: define budget. And I think you know I agree with you. 219 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: First of all, I myself wouldn't be spending my own 220 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: personal money to go to most of these races. It's 221 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: really expensive. I go because it's part of my job. 222 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: But you're so right, and I don't think it's unfair 223 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: that a lot of Americans just hear Formula one and 224 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,479 Speaker 1: think automatically, this is too expensive. You know, this is elitist. 225 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: They imagine Monaco in the seventies or something, and part 226 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: of that is not wrong. But there are ways that 227 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: if you decide this is going to be our special 228 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: thing and we want to do Formula one, there are 229 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: ways certainly that you can save money. I mean, the 230 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: biggest to me, the biggest, most obvious one is and 231 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: this is gonna maybe hurt a little bit, but don't 232 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: go on race day. Go go for the qualifying rounds 233 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: and practice rounds because tickets for those are far less expensive. 234 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: But you still get the bulk of the atmosphere. You 235 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: still get to see cars going around a track, You'll 236 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: still get to see drivers, You'll still get a lot 237 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: of it. But it will save you hundreds of dollars 238 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: in tickets alone and passes and all that. I know 239 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: that's a controversial thing. 240 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: No, actually I think it's a great, great idea because well, 241 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: I don't know about F one, but if I go 242 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: to Moto GP on just for free practice or qualifying. 243 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: It's less crowded. It's easier for me to move around, 244 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: and I have a much better chance of seeing pilots 245 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: or seeing mechanics and actually talking to people getting my 246 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: picture taken, because you know, that's not the huge mob completely. 247 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: And I have to say at the Jetta race, I 248 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: was actually there on qualifying and I've had so much 249 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: and you're right, the crowds are far less crazy and 250 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: you just kind of feel like an insider, which is cool. Yeah, 251 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: I like that. 252 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: And then you get to watch the race on TV 253 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: at your hotel and it's frankly, it's much better. I mean, 254 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: obviously the sound and the feeling of the engines is intense, 255 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: but you get that in qualifying, and then yes you do. 256 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: Watching the race is much better on TV because you 257 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: can actually you're not at one corner. 258 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: And I love hearing the commentary and that's really how 259 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: you learn when you're able. It's like the old guys 260 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: who would go to the Dodger games with like radio 261 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: earpieces listening to commentary, but they're sitting in the seats. 262 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: But they're sitting in the cheap seats. But I mean 263 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: to me, that's actually more interesting because you get a high, 264 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: higher level perspective while some of the atmosphere. 265 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: I agree with you, yeah, one hundred percent. I would 266 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: never thought about it, but you're right, yeah. 267 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah so. And the other thing I would just say, 268 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: like on the idea of a budget is obviously local 269 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: races that are closer to you are probably going to 270 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: be cheaper. For instance, you know, if you're in Los Angeles, 271 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: you've got Austin, but you've also got Vegas, and then 272 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: you've also got Mexico City, which the flight actually to 273 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: Mexico City might be cheaper than you know, a flight 274 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: to Montreal or obviously to England. So like, really be 275 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: careful about which race you choose, and don't assume that 276 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Monaco is the most expensive race. It's actually not ticket wise, 277 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, it pays to do your research at. 278 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: Homore, I think Apropos our next guest, it makes sense 279 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: to segue in from F one to Moto GP and 280 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: Fromoter GP to the Branning World champions I've known Claudio 281 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: for probably I don't know, over a. 282 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: Decade, at least maybe close to two. I've obviously been 283 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: a du Katisti for at least two decades, more like three. 284 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: I got my first Monster in nineteen nine. 285 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: I actually learned to ride motorcycles at a Monster too, 286 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: so we have a lot in common and it was 287 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: a very great experience, I have to say, so permanently 288 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: endeared me to Dakati. 289 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: And Claudy has been there even longer, right, Claudia, you 290 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: started in nineteen ninety one, is that correct? 291 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? You know it all. 292 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I heard that you don't want to talk about liberty, 293 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: but we obviously have to ask a little bit about 294 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: Moto GP, and. 295 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: This is exciting. 296 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: First off, I've been rooting for Dukati and Moto GP 297 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: for many years and it hasn't been since Casey Stoner 298 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: that we were successful until Peko, and now you're defending 299 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: a third world championship for a third year, or the 300 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: possibility of a third year. What is it like to 301 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: be not just on top, but to absolutely dominate in 302 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: the sport? 303 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very nice, I have to admit, and actually 304 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 5: I've been quite a long path to get there, because 305 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 5: you know, with Casey who won the championship quick, but 306 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 5: then it was more complicate and many as difficult. But 307 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 5: finally we were able to put together the proper team 308 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 5: of people rather make a big difference, but the whole 309 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 5: team when you're not doing once, but you do twice 310 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 5: and then actually are still even in the beginning of 311 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 5: the third championship like we are now, always fight for 312 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 5: the audium position or even for the win, means there. 313 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: Is a system. It's not just coincidence or Lakia Claudia. 314 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm so curious. You know, we're talking about dominance in 315 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: a racing series, and you know I follow and cover 316 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: Formula one a lot. I'm curious about how closely you 317 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: relate to like a red ball that is so dominant 318 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: in F one right now? Are there parallels between your 319 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: dominance and Moto GP and red bulls dominance in Formula. 320 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: One similar in a way? For sure in term of 321 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: a result. 322 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 5: Actually, what we can say maybe is that in motojiped 323 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 5: there are more than you do ctis, so actually the 324 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 5: races are there's more competition now and so it's a 325 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 5: lot of more uncertainty. And on the other side, in 326 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 5: terms of technological position of our bike, it's for sure 327 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 5: very good. I have to say that Formula one, the 328 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 5: car makes maybe a bit of a difference, more difference, 329 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 5: and so once you get their dynamic right or the 330 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 5: package right for the other are very complicated. In in bike, 331 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 5: bikes are closer one with the other, so difference are 332 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 5: less and so competition is very close. 333 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: What do you think about the fact that the European 334 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 2: brands are doing so well. Obviously Ducati, you know, is 335 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: winning all the races, but KTM is doing well, and 336 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: Aprilia shows a lot of promise. At the same time, 337 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: Honda is doing badly, Yamaha is doing badly, Suzuki quit. 338 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: What's that all about? The Japanese brands are all at 339 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: the bottom, all of a sudden, and the European brands 340 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: are at the top. 341 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 5: So I think there's been a kind of in the 342 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 5: last five ten years. So it's not coming just in 343 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 5: the last year. It's been a very strong innovation stream 344 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 5: that I think you cut it made better than anyone else, 345 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 5: and then some other follow us more closely, and some 346 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 5: others find more difficult to follow. And the bike's technology 347 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 5: for a long time. 348 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: It's been quite conventional, and some. 349 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 5: Brands or some factories or some companies are very goodly refining, 350 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 5: and so you keep refining and doing a bit better 351 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 5: and a bit better, but. 352 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: In a concept which is very almost the same. 353 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 5: While if you take a picture of a bike of 354 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 5: ten years ago a picture of a bike of today, 355 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 5: and you can't give today it's a completely different animal. 356 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: What is your thought about growing the popularity of MotoGP, 357 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: especially in the US. I know there's I think one 358 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: American team racing, but you know, not to bring it 359 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: back to Formula one again. But we've seen, of course 360 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: F one really take off in the past few years. 361 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: Do you think about, oh, we should try to do 362 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: a similar move with MotoGP with that benefited or is 363 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: that not really part of your consideration on a day to. 364 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: Day No, I think it's a fantastic opportunity. 365 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 5: We are mega happy about this thing of liberty media 366 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 5: taking a kind of the global control of MUNTIJP. Still, 367 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 5: of course it's not. 368 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: In action. It will take time and. 369 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 5: Then there are still some validation process. But for sure 370 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 5: are the potential of a sport which is tactular like 371 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 5: montogp in US is dramatic, you know, so we are 372 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 5: may excited about that because we are so much invested 373 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 5: into manto GP and we are very well known and 374 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 5: recognized as the leading technological brand. 375 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: And so the benefit for our brand. 376 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 5: For Lukati in US of the growing popularity of Manto GP, 377 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 5: going above and beyond just the community of the hardcore bicas, 378 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 5: but getting wider. It's very very interesting for us. 379 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: I should point out that Cloudio obviously the CEO of Ducati, 380 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: the whole company, so he's thinking about other things besides racing. 381 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: But if I'm not mistaken, Cloudio, you came up through Coursa, right, 382 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: you came up and ran the racing division before you 383 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: took over the broader company, so you're pretty invested in 384 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: the racing side of things. 385 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. I actually, you know, we founded Dukati Course in 386 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety nine and there was in an notary studio 387 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 5: actually signing the document of when du Cate Coursu was 388 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 5: born and we created that company in order to enter 389 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 5: into MOTOGPI. It's already more than twenty years ago, and 390 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 5: then it was managing director of Ducti Course for the 391 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 5: first part of. 392 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: My career in that days. 393 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 5: So yes, I'm very committed to racing. 394 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: But actually racing and Dukati are very committed anyhow, you know, 395 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: it's part of the passion. 396 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 5: And the reason why dukatisti or ducatisti, you know, this 397 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 5: kind of getting into a club which is not only 398 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 5: about adding a motorcycle, but I being a much broader 399 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 5: sense of community and much broader sense of belonging. 400 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm so curious. You've mentioned leading the forefront 401 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: of technology a few times, and of course we know 402 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: that's true and accurate. And I've also heard you say 403 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: in other conversations, you know that electric is the future. 404 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: Can we talk a little bit about electric motorcycles? Do 405 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: we need one? Who's asking for one? Is it just 406 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: part of belonging to a larger group that is focused 407 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: on EV's where's do culli right now with that conversation? 408 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 5: So I think that ev two wheels, how we do 409 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 5: intend in dukati, which means emotional two wheels. So it's 410 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 5: not talking about mobility, but it's talked about entertainment. It's 411 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 5: still a little bit a question mark because of a 412 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 5: number reason. 413 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: A reason. 414 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 5: Number one is the sound, which actually is very big 415 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 5: part of the emotion. 416 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: That's still a big consideration. It sounds like the cycle. 417 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 5: And actually when you come to racing, for example, you 418 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 5: come to see a race, the sound of the bikes 419 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 5: passing bike. It's a very strong part of entertainment. 420 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: You know. 421 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 5: So the same is when you ride the bike through 422 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 5: Kenyon so and then the other part is, apart from 423 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 5: the sound, the global behavior of the bike, which has 424 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 5: to do a lot with the weight and so then 425 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 5: to be so the compromise between the range and. 426 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 3: The weight of the bike. And so when you are 427 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: on four wheels. 428 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 5: It's much easier because actually you can easily afford to 429 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 5: get a bit of a bit of a heavier car 430 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 5: without really being a drama. And then most of the 431 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 5: TV fun actually focused on the zero to one under 432 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 5: or zero to sixty mile an hour if you are us, 433 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 5: and then you get a fantastic performance in acceleration with 434 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 5: four wheel drive kind of maybe five hundred kilowap engine, 435 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 5: but still when you are going through corner is more complicated, 436 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 5: so a number of things. Nevertheless, we want it to 437 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 5: be part of the game, and so it's it's and 438 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 5: technology is moving quite quick, so even the battery are 439 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 5: changing the performance quite quick and so what it was 440 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 5: possible five years ago and now it's for sure the 441 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 5: forefront of technology I've moved and what it will be 442 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 5: possible in five years even the front. So this reason 443 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 5: why we enter moto E which actually I'm not sure 444 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 5: you are aware, it's kind of a full evy race 445 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 5: series which actually exactly it's like formularly, but there is 446 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 5: a difference because it's run by the same promoter. So 447 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 5: instead of being run on a difference here Equita and 448 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 5: formally is mainly in cities, he Equita, this is run 449 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 5: by Dorner and this together with MotoGP in all European around, 450 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 5: So all European around of MotoGP you get also the 451 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 5: moto E races. And we've been asked by the promoter 452 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 5: to develop motorcycle. 453 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 3: So a single make serious. 454 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 5: So we have taken the challenge to invest the money 455 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 5: and resource needed to develop what is currently the most 456 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 5: performing and advanced to wheel vehicle when it is on 457 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 5: the racetrat So a lot of brand are kind of 458 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 5: making proposals, let's put in this way. 459 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 3: But then when you have to come to a point 460 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 3: that the bike really developed. 461 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 5: A performance and it's a really emotional product. 462 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: Now it's it's on the top and so we learn 463 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: a lot. 464 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 5: We learn a lot in how to play with the 465 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 5: motor which actually the electrical motor is a very different animal, 466 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 5: and then you need to get to be an export motor. 467 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 5: On inverter on chemistry of the battery, on software, how 468 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 5: you play with with all the software, and actually we 469 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 5: build all of them in the house. We hire people 470 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 5: and so we have a building, not just a product, 471 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 5: but we are building knowledge. 472 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: In your opinion, is it going to be easier to 473 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: evoke emotion and passion out of a motorcycle run on 474 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: e fuels rather than a motorcycle with an electric motor. 475 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 3: When the fuel is available. Definitely yes. 476 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 5: So the main problem of fuel is that are still 477 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 5: not completely accepted. 478 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: So there are discussions going on. 479 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 5: Let's say for the European community, there is kind of 480 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 5: a ban talking about cars not bikes at twenty thirty 481 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 5: five for internal combustion. 482 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: Engine, but there is an option that are on the table. 483 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 5: They are debating that the cars will be accepted if 484 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 5: they run on ethuel. 485 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: But it's not all it completely validated. 486 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 5: So the oil company even they are not completely now 487 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 5: moving into setting up the plan because then in all 488 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 5: this discussion, then you need companies to take decision to 489 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 5: make investment, and so definitely yes, the feud is a 490 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 5: fantastic solution that would get both the emotion and the 491 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 5: CO two neutral. So the reason why, for example, you 492 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 5: can use in close environment like MotoGP or omor one 493 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 5: and then I think would be a fantastic solution also 494 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 5: for a high end supercar and for high performance motorcycle. 495 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit about the consumer 496 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: products that you have. I'm obviously a big fan and 497 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: have owned many Ducats in my life. I never have 498 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: owned one with a single cylinder, but I'm looking forward 499 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 2: to doing that soon because you just put out the 500 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: Hypermotarch six ninety eight mono. I remember talking to you 501 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: five or six or seven years ago in Frankfurt and 502 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: you were telling me that you were doing supermoto with 503 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: your son and you were having so much fun that 504 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: you wanted to make a smaller bike on which that 505 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: was possible. Now you've done it, tell us about this 506 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: and what else have you got up your sleeve. 507 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 3: So that you remember that, So that means that there 508 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: was not lying, you know, that became real. 509 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's exciting. I mean, I can't wait to ride 510 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: this thing. I've already watched the videos and it sounds amazing, 511 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: but it's also cool that you developed bikes that way, 512 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: like you got into it. You were having fun on 513 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 2: something else and you thought, Yukatti can do this, and 514 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 2: now you're organic. Yeah, it's really cool. 515 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 5: I think you touched most probably one of the core 516 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 5: points of the reason why do cut exist, you know, 517 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 5: and why we're doing okay, because really we, most of us, 518 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 5: not just me, you know, most of us are really 519 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 5: enthusias about the product, and most of us we are 520 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 5: actually enjoying the product ourselves. And so it's a kind 521 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 5: of it's a fantastic opportunity to take the technology which 522 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 5: is available and then to think about the future and 523 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 5: then to think about what would be exciting, you know, 524 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 5: and we do things that we like doing, and we 525 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 5: are doing in a way that actually it's so well 526 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 5: connected with our most passionate client that actually resonate with them. 527 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 5: And then finally they buy it, you know, and so 528 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 5: we can make out of a living and the company 529 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 5: is successful as financially. We ended up the last two 530 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 5: years with the first time in our history going above 531 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 5: one billion euro in revenue. So we have grown a 532 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 5: company to a decent size, you know. For actually when 533 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 5: I joined the company, thirty is always a small artisanal style. 534 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: Manufacturing. 535 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 5: Now we were below two thousand bike a year and 536 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 5: now we are in the range of sixty thousand. So 537 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 5: we're not big because still look cut. We remain a 538 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 5: specialty for people that love very kind of high level, 539 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 5: high quality, high technology product and they're willing to commit for. 540 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 3: The effort on having one. 541 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 5: But it's very interesting that we really are very much 542 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 5: technical driven, so we are connecting with technology. We are 543 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 5: kind of a bit of technology beak if you want, 544 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 5: you know, so we either the software or the how 545 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 5: the engine is is made. We are very excited about that. 546 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 5: But on the other side, we are not doing for 547 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 5: the sake of doing. So we are very often on 548 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 5: the road with our prototypes and bikes from competitor and 549 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 5: we compare them and actually we want to really we 550 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 5: consider ourselves as the kind of with this fantastic branding 551 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 5: and uh, and we have a group of passionate people 552 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 5: outside that resonate with us. And so there are a 553 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 5: lot of new things coming uh, which of course I 554 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 5: will not tell you anything about. But but but really, 555 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 5: as you know, we are in a the world is 556 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 5: complicated because actually geopolitic is complicated. 557 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: So we are not kind of. 558 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 5: It's always difficult, but we are with so close link 559 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 5: with with our shareholder now that is make it possible 560 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 5: for us to continue to increase investment into new products, 561 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 5: so not only the electric but actually we are studying 562 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 5: a lot of different things and also expanding the product 563 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 5: range you're seen. We are enter out to motocross, which 564 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 5: will be another very exciting chapter for us, for example, 565 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 5: because there is a lot of passion there from supercross 566 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 5: to actually also a number of cross count reversion and 567 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 5: a lot of stuff. 568 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: And a lot of young Americans. 569 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 5: Start on two wheels just with an off road, so 570 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 5: it's it's for sure. 571 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,239 Speaker 1: Another I have a question about that, Claudia, that just 572 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: brings to mind. You know, in my limited experience and exposure, 573 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: it seems like there is really a difference between the 574 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: European motorcycle rider and the American motorcycle rider. How would 575 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: you describe the difference in what you're seeing between riders 576 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: in Europe and the US. 577 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe kind of. 578 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 5: In Europe, the motorcycle is also a daily commuter thing, 579 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 5: yess is poor pure entertainment, that's for sure. And you 580 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 5: find a motorcycle in the city in Europe, and of 581 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 5: course a lot of people in Europe use the motorcycle 582 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 5: over the weekends and they use it for touring or 583 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 5: they use going on the racetrack. 584 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: But also you go to. 585 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 5: Milan or Roma, or Sari or even Barcelona, you find 586 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 5: a lot of bikes into the city, while in US 587 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 5: is a bit more difficult. Some CDs maybe you in 588 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 5: San Francisco and you find them, or even somewhere in 589 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 5: New York, but actually in the middle of the country, 590 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 5: it is more complicated and more difficult. 591 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: And talk to us a little bit about the Scrambler 592 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: sub brand. I'm curious how much that has contributed to 593 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: this big growth that you've seen, number one, and then 594 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: also how has it affected the very aspirational image of Dukatti. 595 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: Obviously Scrambler was created to make Dukatti more accessible to 596 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: more people. How has that changed the dynamic of the 597 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: brand image? But then also the just straight growth. 598 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that Scamber has been a nice opportunity 599 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 5: because it gave us the potential of reinvent an icon 600 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 5: that we had in our past that was exactly Ducati 601 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 5: Scamble that have been. 602 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 3: For many young. 603 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 5: People in the sixties, been a kind of sixties and 604 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 5: the seventies been a kind of really something to dream about, 605 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 5: and we could generate a part of our company that 606 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 5: was not so much committed to performance in a way, 607 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 5: so being interesting for also an audience which is much 608 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 5: more lifestyle, is much more about customizing your product and 609 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 5: enjoying riding without somehow the stress of being a fast 610 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 5: rider in a way, you know, which is a little 611 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 5: bit of what happened when you are Redukati, you know. Uh. 612 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 5: And but on on the other side, it did not 613 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 5: change the positioning of the Red brand. So the Red Dukati, 614 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 5: I mean the Red Dukatti, which is style, sophistication and performance, 615 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 5: so which are our core value very. 616 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: Clearly, uh. 617 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 5: And that in the in the in the body of 618 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 5: any one of us here in the company. And so 619 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 5: it's been a nice extension that gave us the possibility 620 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 5: to have new people joining the Ducati family. Because yes, 621 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 5: you enter as a scrambl arista, but still. 622 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: Is that the word for it, scrambler with the with 623 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: the American accent. 624 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 2: It's a hard r I want to Claudia, I want 625 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: to know about your path to to do Katie, Like, 626 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: how did you get into you know motorbikes, and I 627 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: mean for those listening that don't know, Claudia is a 628 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: very fast rider. So all the executives are telling me like, 629 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: he's one of the fastest guys at the track every 630 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 2: time you go there. And how did you get into 631 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: because I know you're an engineer, but you also care 632 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 2: a hell of a lot about design and beauty and 633 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: you know, I guess that's Italian? But how did how 634 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 2: did how did you grow up and get into this 635 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: and and stay there for so long? 636 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of questions. 637 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 5: I love, I love the point and so actually, how 638 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 5: I've we managed to remain for so long? Actually I 639 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 5: always tell a joke whichly, when I joined the company, 640 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 5: I was engineer number four, were only engineer, and so 641 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 5: I usually tell that I just needed to kill three 642 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 5: or to file three, and then I became the boss, 643 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 5: so which I think is more it's more complicated and 644 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 5: difficult now because we are more than three hundred and 645 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 5: fifty engineers, you know, so when it's joining. 646 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 3: Now, it gets more difficult. But it's pretty straightforward. Basically, 647 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 3: I was a type of a. 648 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 5: Guy in that you know, born in eighteen sixty five, 649 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 5: and so in that eighties. In the eighties, you everyone 650 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 5: here was very passion in this Motor Valley about bikes, car. 651 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 5: Everything is fast, you know, And so I had this passion. 652 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,479 Speaker 5: And when you are in your fifteen sixteen year old 653 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 5: there is something which is in common unless you are 654 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 5: very special, and there was not anything special that you 655 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 5: are without money, So there is no money around. So 656 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 5: the only way to be fast on something is to 657 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 5: buy a bike because the the EU times fun factor 658 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 5: it's unbeatable, the one for the bike. You know, if 659 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 5: you want to really enjoy being fast with the car, 660 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 5: to spend in the hundreds of thousands. If you want 661 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 5: to enjoy with the bike, you're on the ten of thousands. 662 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 5: So that's what was the thaing. So I got into bikes, 663 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 5: but it was quessionate about cars both whatever, which is 664 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 5: still are which I'm still are. 665 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 2: That's good because we want to ask you about cars 666 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 2: as well. And I know you're president of the Motor 667 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: Valley Development Association, so you know, it's amazing when people 668 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 2: go and understand that in one place basically is Dukati, Lamborghini, Maserati, Ferrari. 669 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: You know they're all right there around. 670 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a botto making. 671 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 2: It's pretty unbelievable. So, you know, we we wanted to 672 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: ask your take as an Italian, as the CEO of 673 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 2: Dukati and as the head of the Motor Valley Development Association, 674 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 2: what do you think are the most beautiful or the 675 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: best designed cars? 676 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: Conic? Yeah, for the ages? 677 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 2: So why don't we Why don't we kick that off? 678 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 2: When you think of the most beautiful cars, the best 679 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: design cars, the most for you, the most passionate, timeless cars, 680 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: what do you think? 681 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, if you have to pick just one, actually 682 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 5: it's quite obvious and it's ninety eleven. 683 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a shocker. 684 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't expect it either. 685 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 3: You said it's timeless. 686 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 5: You know, so actually I think the philosophy, which actually 687 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 5: is the only one, because I just they gave me 688 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 5: the break because they made actually proper good homework, and 689 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 5: so I just. 690 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 3: Throwed down three cars that I love. 691 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 2: Let's start. Let's focus on the nine to eleven first, 692 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 2: because of course the shape the silhouette is timeless, and 693 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 2: I imagine that you've had a chance to drive a 694 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 2: few of them. Now, since you're all under the Volkswagen umbrella, Well, 695 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: do you own any tell us about your experience with 696 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: nine to eleven with Portia. 697 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 5: Not yet, not yet, but have a plan. Okay, so 698 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 5: I'm building a garage. I'm building garage. That's the first start. 699 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: It does the plan and involve modern nine to elevens 700 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: or older air cooled variety. 701 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 3: More than nine eleven. M A type of a guy 702 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 3: that like the modern stuff. But I I I. 703 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 5: Consider that that car in special is the one uh 704 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 5: that they've been able to be continuously different by remaining 705 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 5: the same, uh, which is typical of an icon, you know. 706 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 5: And and by the way, uh they've been able also 707 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 5: in terms of technology to make the car fantastic in 708 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 5: the current nine nine two nine eleven GT three it's 709 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 5: it's a it's a it's a mega car, you know. 710 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 5: And they keep making that even with the manual gear box, 711 00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 5: so it is kind of uh a Swiss Swiss mechanical swatch. 712 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 5: This still being incredible emotional and and never nostalgic. 713 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 3: So this I think it's it's it's their parents. But if. 714 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 5: Then I put down the other two cards that I 715 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 5: think I really I like, especially which is the STO 716 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 5: which I think that we made together the street Fighter 717 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 5: and I think that this car was a very extreme one. 718 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 3: Uh and the Ferrari two ninety six. 719 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: Those are very interesting answers because the nine to eleven 720 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: Hurricane Sto and the two nine six are not the 721 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,479 Speaker 1: wildest and craziest top of the line models in each 722 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: of those portfolios. In fact, they're more usable. They're they're 723 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: considered more of the Swiss Army knife, I mean relatively speaking. 724 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 1: So that's very interesting that you mentioned those. 725 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't talk about that. 726 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 5: But you pick a real nice thing, which is which 727 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 5: is really my way of It's what I like. You know, 728 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 5: it's my personal choice. I'm not saying it are the 729 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 5: best one. But if you want the most those power 730 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 5: and it's not this car, okay, but yes they are 731 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 5: the ones. They are in a way, the GITT three, 732 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 5: it's it's the most party in a way. 733 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 3: But still you can do every day usability, you know. 734 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 2: The multi Strata, for example, in my eyes, is the 735 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 2: perfect Like if I could only have one bike, it 736 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 2: would be the multi Strata. It's so much fun to 737 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 2: ride on the track. You can do cross country trips 738 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 2: with it. Truly is like every street off road stuff 739 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 2: is possible. Obviously, it's hires need to be switched. But 740 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 2: I would say that I would say the weakness probably 741 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 2: is kind of the navigation sort of hub. Right, the 742 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 2: software is the is the problem there? How hard is 743 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 2: that to crack? 744 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's not dramatically are but 745 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 5: let's say we uh we. 746 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 3: In this product. Uh, that's not our strongest part. Let's 747 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 3: put in this way. So we have a plan. 748 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 5: And for Shoot software, it's very very relevant and I 749 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 5: completely agree with you and understand what is the need. 750 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 5: So we are working hard on that in order to 751 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 5: have on the future. 752 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 3: Uh, not just a fantastic. 753 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 5: Proposal in term of engine delivery, driveability and everything, but 754 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 5: also the connectivity part will be on stage with all 755 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 5: the integration that is needed and how our client are 756 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 5: used to. 757 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 2: It's the best seller too, isn't it the best seller 758 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 2: of all the bikes? 759 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? It is, uh and actually is keeping growing and. 760 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 5: It's a little bit of you know, the Cutty was 761 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 5: born around Monster and the ninety sixteen, so let's say 762 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 5: sporting naked and. 763 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 3: A sporty fed bike. 764 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 5: Actually, now we have a different products on the motor 765 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 5: range and multi Strada itself. It's a very important pillar 766 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 5: because you are an expert, so you understand that with 767 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 5: this bike you have to pick only one that's a 768 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 5: multi stud. Muti Stud is my personal bike. 769 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 3: It's my favorite if I have to pick only one, 770 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 3: because really. 771 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 5: You can use as a sport bike, but it's very comfortable. 772 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 5: You can do long range, you can carry a passenger, 773 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 5: you can use in a city, you can use oproad 774 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 5: as you said. And actually, funny enough, we still have 775 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 5: the image of being a MotoGP company, so we find 776 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 5: it difficult to explain and convince that you can take 777 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 5: a multi strata with a proper tire, doing a proper offer. 778 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 5: But still when we do comparative tests, when journalists do 779 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 5: comparative test on the up road, we win most of 780 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 5: the comparative test, even against the other brands that are 781 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 5: really supposed to do much better. But we took seriously 782 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 5: and so and I'm a strongly believer of taking the 783 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 5: time of doing things. So we are now in the 784 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 5: fourth generation of multi strata. More and more people enter 785 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,760 Speaker 5: into that, you know, because actually there are more people 786 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,959 Speaker 5: that actually trust us and they believe that. 787 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 3: You can be on a du cut in a comfortable way. 788 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 5: You can be on a Ducati in a longer range 789 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 5: way and it can be even up road, and so 790 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 5: the family is keeping growing and we are keeping investing. 791 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 3: We just every year we release different versions. 792 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 5: Sometimes we go more in the direction of being a 793 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 5: more long range or off road, like we did with 794 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 5: the Rally recently last year with a thirty liters fuel tank, 795 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 5: and on the other side we release at the same 796 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 5: time the multi start RS, which is the most party 797 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 5: with the desmal system and one of the its power. 798 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 5: So we continue to try to keep the center of 799 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 5: gravity of the brand stable. So if sometimes we enter 800 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 5: with the model which is more touring, then we want 801 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 5: to reinforce our position and the hupper part with more 802 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 5: sports version in order to keep the center of gravity stable. 803 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 2: Clardio, it's been awesome spending time with you. Thank you 804 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 2: for thank you so much committing this hour to us. 805 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. 806 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 5: It's been a pleasure of Madels on my side and 807 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 5: let's keep in touch. Has been wonderful talk again with 808 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 5: you and also Hannah. I mean I've been impressed. To 809 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 5: be honest, you are a strong Connoscert So actually I 810 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 5: would love to meet the first time. Actually I'm in 811 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 5: the us or actually are. 812 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 3: In Europe, but both of you. 813 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 5: Actually, it would be nice if we can meet and 814 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 5: maybe have a chat and a dinner together would be fantastic. 815 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 1: That would be nothing more. Thank you. 816 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 2: I'll try and set that up, Claudio, look forward to 817 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,959 Speaker 2: seeing you again. So that was Claudio Dominicoli telling us 818 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,760 Speaker 2: a lot about everything. 819 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: I guess he's interesting and I do want to go 820 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: have a proper Italian meal with him. 821 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 2: I highly recommend World Ducati Week. It's an incredible gathering 822 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 2: in Remedy, Italy of dukatisti from around the world. Obviously, 823 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 2: the food is delicious, but the coolest thing is you 824 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 2: can ride with the group and you would probably be 825 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 2: able to ride next to Claudio and you do go 826 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 2: on like an hour long ride around the area, which is. 827 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: That's really cool. I just had a vision of Ducatti 828 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: making a sidecar. I don't know, why, can you imagine? 829 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,760 Speaker 1: I feel like that's so funny. 830 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 2: I've never seen a Ducatti sidecar me either. If you 831 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,760 Speaker 2: ever go to Bologna, you can check out the Ducatti 832 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 2: Museum and there. 833 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 834 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 2: All right, well that's it for this week. We'll be 835 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 2: back next week, same time, same place, and definitely shoot 836 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 2: us an email, because we read, we respond, and we try, 837 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 2: and when people give us suggestions, we try and incorporate 838 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: them into the program. What's our email address. 839 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,959 Speaker 1: The email address is hot pursuit at bloomberg dot net 840 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: Hot pursuit awesome. 841 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 2: All right, that's excellent. 842 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller, I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is Bloomberg