1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Jeff Wars, did you Jack, Jack Morris, did you Jack Wars? 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: Drive Time right and sex sext John O's agent, Ashley 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Sag Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. You know, we've 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: been so fortunate over the last couple of years to 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: have two top fifteen quarterbacks in Carson and Nick, and 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: we've spent a lot of time discussing this internally end 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: with him and we've decided to let it become free agent. 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: That's how we rose mean, general manager of the Philadelphia Eagles, 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: And that leads off our show this morning. Hello, and 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: welcome to Jack's Drive Time. Brian Sexton joined by John 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Osher and Ashlett Sullivan. Was that was that the moment 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: of the combined was that Well for Jacks people, it 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: certainly was. For Jacks observers, it certainly was. Uh, the 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: moments of the combine for people would expected that. I mean, 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: that was entirely unexpected, right, Buzz, that that was coming. 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: Did you know you thought that it might happen today? 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: I think they would announce it a week out. Um. Yeah, 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: the moments of the combine where Kyler Murray centric, but 19 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: one a was Nick Foles and certainly for Jaguars observers 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: until we hear whether or not the you know news, 21 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: the speculation is official, it's and certainly the moment the 22 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: combine and the moment of the off season. So how 23 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: was your week up there? It was good. We were busy. 24 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: That completely shifted our focus. On Wednesday, I remember announcement 25 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: was made. It was completely a different day, all of 26 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: a sudden, Mother's Day was all now Nick Foles centric, 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 1: which neither of us expected. Right, And there's a limit 28 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: to what we could actually do with it because you're 29 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: still dealing in speculation. You're still dealing are today by 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: the way, and now you're asking the questions sort of 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: around the topic. Whatever it is won't be official, and 32 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: it will be press releases on anything until a week 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: from tomorrow, eight days out. So it's just our speculation 34 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: and it might end up shifting, it might end up 35 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: shifting the franchise, and but it really wasn't. It was 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: about three or four days later where the news came 37 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: out of Philly that it sounded like he's the guy, 38 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: and we'll get to that, but we'll still see yeah, 39 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: and we'll get to that plenty of that. What's amazing 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: to me is having done this as long as I have. 41 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean, all of a sudden, the Super Bowl is over. 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: You have just a just a brief quiet period of 43 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: a week or so. Then the combine was all consuming. 44 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: Yesterday was tag Day. Next week is free agency. I mean, 45 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: this thing is just rolling almost at full speed again, 46 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: and with the I don't know the supposition that there 47 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: will be a new quarterback here. Maybe it's the earliest 48 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: next week that has the anticipation in Jacksonville really high. 49 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's forget the off season, and let's hope 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean, and I would get to it later if 51 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: Folds is coming. Let's hope Roseman's right and he's a 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: top fifteen guy, because that's the big debate is how 53 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: good is what you're getting. It's gonna be very open 54 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: to debate until he steps in the field, because there 55 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: are pros and cons of this. Well, let's roll right 56 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: into it. That nashly all right, the story of Nick 57 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: Foles and on again off against starter, cut trading and 58 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: bench but also a Super Bowl m VP of four 59 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: record in the playoffs. We just heard from general manager 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: Howie Roseman of the Eagles. He says that Fowls deserves 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: a fresh start wherever he goes. At the same time, 62 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: we've had an incredible success with him when he's had 63 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: to play. UH four playoff wins over the last two years. 64 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: Great teammate. UM a huge resource for Carson and Nate 65 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: Sudfeld as well. But at the same time, Um, he 66 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: deserves an opportunity to lead a team. It's a goal 67 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: of his to lead another team and lead another locker room, 68 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: and we feel at this point that it's the right decision. 69 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: So talking to people throughout the week, John and I 70 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: would always whenever we would say we were from the Jaguars, 71 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: meaning it was always brought up Nick Foles. You couldn't 72 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: get away from it. But a big point that a 73 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: lot of people were stressing to me was that he's 74 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: never played a full NFL season, never sixteen games, which 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a big deal at the time, 76 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: but then you look back at it and that is 77 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: kind of a point that not a lot of people 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: are making. So UM. He had a tremendous with the Eagles. 79 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Remember Mike Vic got hurt, He took over for him, 80 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: a twenty seven touchdowns and only two interceptions and went 81 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. UM and then you know, bounced 82 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: around St. Louis, Kansas City, and we've seen him twice, 83 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: the Jaguars have seen him twice. So I'm opening day. 84 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: If you remember that game and didn't scare you to time, Well, 85 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: three turnovers in the first half and it was really 86 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: Darren Sprowls that opened that game up. In the second half, 87 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense had no answer for him. He had 88 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: a couple of long touchdown runs. Same thing. Jagg Wars 89 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: probably win that game. Remember he was in Kansas City. 90 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: He's on in relief of Alex Smith. Jacker was probably 91 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: win that game. And they weren't a good team, but 92 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: they probably win that game if Chris Ivory doesn't fumble 93 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: on the goal line in the third quarter. So you know, 94 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: then he comes back to Philly and obviously that's been 95 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: well chronicled and you just have to scratch your head 96 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: a little bing. Okay, which Nick Foles are we getting 97 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: the one that was really good in and really good 98 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: in and pretty good in two or the one in 99 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: between that was sort of lost and didn't know whether 100 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: he wanted to keep playing football and just was a guy, 101 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: just a guy. Yeah, John made a point. He's not 102 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: the type of guy that scares you. And I think 103 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: that said, he's a very even keel guy. And they 104 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: always mentioned the running game he's played with. I think 105 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: it's so dependent still on if won of for Net 106 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: can make a big step this season, because then I 107 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: think he lifts everyone up. We were talking about Blake Bordles, right, 108 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: some people think is the worst quarterback that's ever played, right. 109 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously tongue in cheek here, but he had 110 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: to have the running game, he had to have the 111 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: strong So how different are they? I know nobody will 112 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: hear this one he indeed signs. If he signs, this 113 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: guy is not elite. You're not signing all pro guy. 114 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: And and then you know, I know nobody will put 115 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: that to bed, but we may as well put it 116 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: to bed. He's not gonna be that guy. In the 117 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: year that he took the Eagles the Super Bowl, he 118 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: had a bad first playoff game. They want it, but 119 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: I remember watching that game. It was night before the 120 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: Jaguars played the Steelers and beat him. He was barely 121 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: won that game. They got out. It wasn't like there 122 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: was this dynamic quarterback president after that game, but he won. 123 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: So he is a guy who in the playoff game 124 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: last year against New Orleans Hot start bad for a 125 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: couple of quarters, a clutch at the end. If you 126 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: can get him into a situation where you need clutched 127 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: quarterback play, he's not gonna choke. He has the capability 128 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: of being very cool under pressure. But he is not 129 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: a guy I don't think who is going to carry 130 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: the team on his back and be a you know, Rogers, 131 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: even to Matt Ryan level. Got somebody asked me in 132 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: the ozone the other day what I thought of him. 133 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: I said, I don't expect him be a pride of 134 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: the Jaguars guy. And I got some emails after that saying, well, 135 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: why in the world would be Well, it's hard to 136 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: get in the pride. Brunel was what seven years, three 137 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, four playoff appearances. You take that in a 138 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: minute from this guy. I don't expect that from Nicholes. 139 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: I expect improvement, and he's the best available to help 140 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: them improve at the position. He's got a bigger arm 141 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: than play, but he's not as mobile as Play. I mean, 142 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: he's not a guy who runs around. Although he did 143 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: have that touchdown in the Super Bowl that everyone will 144 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: point to if he starts sixteen games, there's gonna be 145 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: ups and downs. There's gonna be Mondays where people go, 146 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: why in the world do we signed this guy? Because 147 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: you're not going sixteen Now, there's gonna be disappointments. But 148 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, of the sake of arguments, say Blake's as 149 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: bad as people think. I don't think he's the best 150 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: people think, but say he's thirty two folds maybe fifteen. 151 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: But he's better than that. So you hope that you 152 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: can get better at that position enough to help everything 153 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: else that you have. Funk. Now, The thing about him, though, 154 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: is is that he had great weapons around him. On offense. 155 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: He had a big receiver, right, he had speed at receiver. Also, 156 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: he had tight ends. I mean, zach Ertz here's tight 157 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: ends in that offense in Philadelphia when Foles was playing quarterback, 158 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: we're targeted nearly ten times. Again, you don't have that. 159 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: Here is your tight end. You don't have one. He 160 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: was standing on a podium last week. I hope yeah. 161 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: Pretends the importance of draft attention. So right, the idea 162 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: that he comes in here and immediately changes your fortunes 163 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: seems ridiculous to me. But he makes you better, you 164 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: would think. But you've got to put the weapons around him. 165 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: Now your draft becomes around who are you giving him 166 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: to throw too and he's protecting him on offensive line? 167 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Or are you taking his quarterback? Well? And that does 168 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: bring us to this important point, and that is that 169 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: he's a free agent. They're going to release him. He 170 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: can go where he wants to go. Now, the Jaguars 171 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: may be the most attractive place for him to go. 172 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: Who knows. But and if you follow the Jaggers close, 173 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: you've heard these names, Giants, Redskins, Dolphins, maybe the Bengals. 174 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there are other teams. There may be a 175 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: team laying in the weeds out there who no one 176 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: is even contemplating that may say, you know what, let's 177 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: call Nick Foles. Let's see and if the bidding gets 178 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: too high, you think this team would have to be 179 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: really judicious because they still are just barely above the 180 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: cap and they don't want to gut their roster. There's 181 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: no point to gut your roster and bring him in. No, 182 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: you're not in the position to overpay right now. So 183 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: it's something to keep in mind, is that even though 184 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: the media firestorm has him coming here. And there's when 185 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: as many people, Johnny, You've done in the sera time, 186 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: when there's as many people who are all quoting reports, 187 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: sources saying he's coming here. Here's a little smoke, there 188 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: may be a little fire. It's certainly a way it's 189 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: leaning right now. But there's still the March eleventh day 190 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: of the tampering. We still haven't hit when phones can 191 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: actually next Monday legally rang yet. Uh. I think he's 192 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: coming here, and I think it's a hold your breath move, 193 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: but I think it's one they have to make because 194 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: you have to get better at the position somehow. And 195 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: they pretty much played their hand, showed their hand when 196 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: they decided they were going to keep Calais and restructure Morsel. 197 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: They're telling you we've got a defense we can win with. 198 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: When I said that last week at the combine, they uh, 199 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: Dave Carl Well in no way thinks this is a 200 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty proposition. This is not two This is 201 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: the thing where they have to go win now, and uh, 202 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: veteran quarterback adds up to a better chance to win 203 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: now than rookie quarterback apparently in their mind, before we 204 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: hit a big thing to you mentioned franchise changing, and 205 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: if they do sign him, it will be a huge 206 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: moment next week for this team. Yeah, it's uh you 207 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: we've both done this since ninety five around here, I 208 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: had a ten year gap. They've never done this. They 209 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: have never brought in big time free agent quarterback to 210 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: my knowledge, is there anything like that that you can remember? 211 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: I don't know know that this would be the biggest. 212 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: It's always been biggest except for Mark, who was basically 213 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: a young kid nobody knew about. But they've never brought 214 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: in a high profile guy, not like this, not a 215 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: former Super Bowl m v P. You know this is 216 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: um you hope it is your Drew Brees moment. Remember 217 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: when the Saints went and got Drew Brees. At that point, 218 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: all they knew was this was a smaller quarterback with 219 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: a shoulder injury that had scared some teams off, and 220 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: that the team that drafted him had already replaced him 221 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers and so you know, here's a talented guy. 222 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: Let's see. Well, but no one quite knew. But everyone 223 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: was excited in New Orleans because it was the first 224 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: time they I mean, they brought in Kenny Stabler in 225 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: the early eighties. He was at the end. This was 226 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: the first time they had gone out and done that 227 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: and it changed their fortunes. And don't get too locked 228 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: into well, there's be a lot of stats. Well this 229 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: has never worked. This, there's no blueprint for this. There's 230 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: really no blueprint for getting your quarterback period. So you're 231 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: always fishing a little bit. We'll see if they catch 232 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: a big fish. Analogy job. If they can't catch the 233 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: fish because the price gets too high, that brings us 234 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: a big thing to write. The college kids. Friday at 235 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: the Comby was podium day for college quarterbacks and if 236 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: you stood out, one of them was not Kyler Murray 237 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: to me at least, and we'll get to that later. 238 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: Two of them did stand out, thoughing about their confidence 239 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: getting ready for the league. That was Dwayne Haskins and 240 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: Will Greer. I'm not worried about it. I know I'm 241 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: gonna do well in the interviews that I've done so far, 242 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna throw really well tomorrow. So I'm just 243 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: looking forward to just showing that I'm the best quarterback 244 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: in the class. I'm not worry about Kyler worried by 245 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: me Um, you know, I'm gonna do what I need 246 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: to do in meetings and on the field tomorrow and 247 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: show Incase my talents. I know I'm a franchise quarterback, 248 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: and you know I'm gonna be really great quarterback in 249 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: the NFL. Now that's at my level of player kind 250 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: of rises in those moments. Um, I want the ball 251 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: in my hands. The fourth down in Texas, the fourth 252 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: down at Oklahoma State, the fourth and one at the 253 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: Texas Tech game. You're talking, but I want the ball 254 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: in my hands to go get the first down and 255 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: go get the touched on whatever we need to win 256 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: the game. That's important. I mean, I'm the leader of 257 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: the team. It's it's I wanted, like I said, I 258 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: wanted on my shoulders, and I deliver when it matters. 259 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: So there are two guys who you know look like 260 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks. The snooky no Will Greer Storres haircut the 261 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: like I think the beard sets it and it makes 262 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: him stand out. After the press conference, Max, I go 263 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: up to Max and Max goes, what's with the hair? 264 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: It's his thing. It's got something going there. So the 265 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray thing, I mean right now, coming out of 266 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: the combine, I understand anything like, Wow, it's amazing. I 267 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: mean it was like like somebody put all the coal. Really. Yeah, 268 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: it was like a stampede. You couldn't see him though 269 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: when everyone got around him. Ryan, right, moral the story 270 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: problem he makes jokes, he got it. I don't get it. 271 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I I understand that everybody's out there looking 272 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: for the next my home. Everybody's looking for the next 273 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: name of playing. Pat Malmes is six three. This kid. 274 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: You can make all the comparisons, you can say everything 275 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: you want about Russell Wilson did it h And there 276 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: is a chance that this kid plays similar to Russell Wilson. 277 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: But you're talking about one guy who's ever done it. 278 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: That's Russell Wilson. He's never really played like that at 279 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: a high level. So some team's gonna take the chance 280 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: on him. I wouldn't because of the height. Maybe you 281 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: think there's you know how this one goes right now? 282 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're maybe the number one overall pick, 283 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: but somebody in the top ten is going to take 284 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: a chance on yeah, I mean, what does that give 285 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: the Jaguars a chance to sit still? Let's just say 286 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: fools ends up signing with Washington, right, does that give 287 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: the Jaguars a chance to sit still and take Haskets, 288 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: Because in theory it could, but the risk would be 289 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: too great. Meaning everything you heard of the combine, and 290 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: is it the Giants and Dave Gettleman are gonna take Haskin, 291 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: that they're that they're going with Eli for a year 292 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: and and and if they want Haskins. So I think 293 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: you've got to jump the Giants. If you're gonna do that. 294 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: Now the question would become when you would jump the Giants. 295 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: It's risky to do it before the draft because if 296 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: you only go up to two, they can go up 297 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: to one, you know, So you've got to decide. That's 298 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: a tricky proposition unless you're going to one and taking 299 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: everything else off the table, unless if the Cardinals come 300 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: out and say, okay, we're taking uh Murray, then you 301 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: have to get to number two. But you obviously have 302 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: to get to that point where you know everything, how 303 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: areything is going to fall off ahead of you? Uh 304 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: So Haskins is the kid I want um and Lock 305 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: would be next. Lock was impressive at the combine. Locks 306 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: made all the throws. Everything you hear about Lock is 307 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: that I think some people are underestimating because of the 308 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: Missouri connection. There's a little bit of a Blaine Gabbert 309 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: stigma there. Um, I think they could easily stay at 310 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: seven and get either Haskins or Lock even if they 311 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, they signed fold. I think that's what they 312 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: should do. I don't think it's what they will do 313 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: if they signed Folds. Yeah. Drew Lucky was funny at 314 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: his press conference. He talked about having a chip on 315 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: his shoulder, about being from Missouri and playing in the 316 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: middle of the country and no one gives them the 317 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: respect he deserves because he's not playing in California. In 318 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: the se scene. It reminded me a lot of the 319 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen Jaguars with the chip on their shoulder. 320 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: He kept going back to have to prove myself. I 321 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: have to prove myself. That's why I'm throwing at the 322 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: combine and that's why I'm doing all this stuff. It 323 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: was a weird comparison to these Jags from two years ago. 324 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, kid from there's something about the Duke thing, 325 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: and I talked some scouts that I've known for a 326 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: long time, just different guys around the league. Um, they're 327 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: not sure why. There there's a lot of people out 328 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: there who liked Daniel Jones as much as anybody, and 329 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: it's it's not getting the buzz because I guess he's 330 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: not named Kyler Murray um. So I'd be surprised if 331 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: Jones isn't in the first round. I don't think the 332 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: Jaguars can wait to take him at thirty eight or 333 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: thirty nine. But ah, you've both seen all this happen enough. 334 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: There's so much Combine talk. Somebody in the next couple 335 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: of weeks, we'll say something about Daniel Jones to reflect 336 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: what I've been hearing at the combine, some national guy, 337 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Daniel Jones will be back 338 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: in that conversation. That's sort of how it works. Somebody 339 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: says that, or there's a pro day and all of 340 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: a sudden, he'll be the hot guy at some point 341 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: enough to get over these other guys. I don't know, 342 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: but I think there's four guys who have legitimate chances 343 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: you go in the top fifteen. Well, if you remember, 344 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz was still a bit of an unknown coming 345 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: out of the combine, and that's when he started his climb. 346 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean and he finished number two, so that's pretty good. 347 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: And Jones is obviously a big, strong guy. Who I mean, 348 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: that's a really attractive style of quarterback six ft five 349 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: thirty pounds, good arm. I don't know that there's a 350 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: great arm. I suppose very much like Eli in terms 351 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: of his style of player. I don't think he'll get 352 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: as high as I don't he gets high as Haskins. 353 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: But um, could you still keep hearing about lock in 354 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: the top ten and a lot goes top ten? And 355 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: it wouldn't stun me if that was the direction that 356 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: Jaguars went, if they decided to go a quarterback at 357 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: seven and didn't trade out, could you see him taking 358 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: a quarterback at two? Or if if they're going if 359 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: they're going to pass it at seven, assuming fools comes, 360 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: they two is too valuable for a skill position player 361 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: or an offensive linement, I mean the top of the 362 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: second round. Um, I don't think so, only because my 363 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: theory would be, if you're taking a quarterback on the 364 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: first day, it means you believe that you need to 365 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: invest in the position right at the which they do well. 366 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: But if you've got a quarterback, but you're saying that 367 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: you need to invest in the position with something that 368 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: will prevent you from having something on the field next 369 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: year that could improve you. Right, so you're taking away 370 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: from next year, you're making you're paying a cost. Well, 371 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: if if you're going to pay that cost, then I 372 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: think you're trying to get a I who will be 373 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: significant helped And I don't think you play that cost 374 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: on a flyer. So I think if you're gonna do that, 375 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: you go in the first round because the second round, Uh, 376 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: historically that's as much of a flyer as the fourth round. 377 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: It's your chances of getting greatness, and that's what you 378 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: would want if you're going to take away helping yourself 379 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: on the field immediately, your chance of getting greatness in 380 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: the top ten. All right, well that's that leads us 381 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: then three. That's my theory beginning. I've said it's football wrong. 382 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: Guys on the other side of the whole are wrong 383 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: plenty too. I've said from the game though, that you 384 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: don't want to pass on a guy. This franchise in 385 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: two thousand four had a young Byron Leftwige and then 386 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: there was still some doubt about whether he was the 387 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: guy or not, but they passed on Ben Roethlisberger. Forget 388 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: that they did it, you know, ridiculously for Reggie Williams 389 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 1: the next year. They were pretty certain Byron was going 390 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: to be a project and it may or may not 391 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: work out. They passed on near Rogers, right. What I 392 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: don't want to see happen is then pass on a 393 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: guy that you're gonna go. Oh, and we might be 394 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: talking about DeShawn Watson and Patrick Mahomes around here now 395 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: for years to come. Bowles comes in if he does, 396 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: and yes, he makes you better and helps fit with 397 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: your roster where you are right now. But don't pass 398 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: on that guy, right because now you don't know is 399 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: how they feel about that. We don't know what their 400 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: grading system is. Maybe they don't think either one of 401 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: these guys is worthy of the conversation because you know, 402 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: the the counter argument to what you just said it 403 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: as they passed on a lot of junk in those 404 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: years too. You just don't know if you're you know, 405 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: it's a crystal ball business like you still gotta get lucky. 406 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: But I I'm with you. I would go quarterback at 407 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: number seven no matter what, because I'm looking more at 408 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: the long term. Uh, And I always doubt how much 409 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: a rookie, outside of the running back position and maybe 410 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: offensive line, how much rookie is really going to help 411 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: you immediately. Top seven would have a chance, correc or 412 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: long run would be more valuable. That's what I would do. 413 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: But as I sit on a radio show or somebody 414 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: last week, at some point, you're gonna be sitting in 415 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: that draft room and you're going to be thinking about, boy, 416 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: we need to win football games now. And I just 417 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: don't know if the temptation to take something that will 418 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: help you now will be too great to go long term. 419 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: I doubt they do it. I think they go short 420 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: term now. Big thing three is do it on defense. 421 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: This is one of the best draft class we've seen 422 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: in a while. For pass rushers, you have Nick Bosim 423 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: on test sweat Josh Allen. Steve Weich from NFL Network says, 424 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: regardless of how talented you are at that position, there's 425 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: never a chance to have too many of those guys. 426 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: If they're that good, you have to grab especially it 427 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: comes to pass rushers because one, they get expensive once 428 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: you get into that fifth year. So if you can 429 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: get a rookie, if you can get a young player 430 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: to give you four good years on a rookie contract, 431 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: you absolutely grab them financially. And then again, you can 432 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: never run short pass rushers. Look at the division where 433 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: you've got to Shaun and Watson, You've got Andrew Luck, 434 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: you've got Marcus Mariota. You have got to put pressure 435 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: on those guys. Pressure causes mistakes, and as we know 436 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: on the back end, the Jags have the players to 437 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: capitalize on those mistakes. You know, so if this again, 438 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: we're playing with all sorts of assumptions here, at least 439 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: for the next week. Under this assumption scenario, call it 440 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: nick Foles is here. So they decided they're gonna go 441 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: to the short term and they're not going to take 442 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Taking a receiver or a tight end at 443 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 1: number seven does not give you, at least historically, has 444 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: not given you the sort of return that you expect 445 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: if you're short term. So then it comes down to 446 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: offensive line or defensive line. Could you see this team, 447 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: despite the need on offense, pulling the trigger on defense 448 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: in the first round. I would put the most likely 449 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: snare of how it's gonna play out as signing Nick Foles, 450 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: drafting Joan Taylor and not drafting the best tight end 451 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: available in the second round, and I'm just going out 452 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: John Taylor as theoretical best offensive lineman available, whoever that is. 453 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: I think they're going quarterback there, and then offensive line, 454 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: which which can get on the field immediately, and then 455 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: tight end, which they are so desperate. I would lean 456 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: towards tight end in the top ten, even though it's unconventional, 457 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: but Slynn was there as well. The feeling is there's 458 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: eight or nine tight ends around the top half of 459 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: the draft, then get on the field and help you 460 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: right away. I wouldn't. I don't love the idea of 461 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: going after a tight end as much as it's been 462 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: a need around here. If there's a guy who stands 463 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: out as the best, go ahead and go get him, 464 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: because you've got to at some point, you've got to 465 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: get that position better. But I would be surprised if 466 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: they go defensive end. But I wouldn't be shocked because 467 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: of Coughlin's affinity for that style of building meaning and 468 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: New Well and in New York. What was the one 469 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: constant of those two Super Bowl wins. They could come 470 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: at you in waves. It felt like they were playing 471 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: fifteen defensive alignment and it felt like they were all 472 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: first round picks after the core. That's an exaggeration, but 473 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: that was the style. So philosophically it would make sense 474 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter if you already got two starters 475 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: who are pass rushers. You can still get the third 476 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: guy in the field. You can still have a huge impact. Philosophically, 477 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: that wouldn't surprise me. But I would still be surprised 478 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: if they go away from line tight end in the 479 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: first two ends, right, But I'd be stunned if it 480 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: was a tight end in the top ten because you know, 481 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: I got wind last year that the research that they 482 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: had done. So, in other words, don't look too hard 483 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: at at Dallas Goddard, right, because the research that they 484 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: had done showed them that rookie tight ends don't make 485 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: a big impact. Right, But when somebody proves wrong, like 486 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: god are, it's worth looking. But okay, so you know, 487 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: the highest drafted tight end in the twenty four years 488 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: that the jag Wars have been in this league, Britan 489 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: Davis catches his rookie year twenty. But if the game 490 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: is changing to have a five one quarterback got number 491 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: one overall, I'm not sure about that. I guess what 492 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying is then change enough to make that tight 493 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: end position, which is if I'm key today, if I'm 494 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: betting on, if I'm trying to predict what Tom Coughlin wants, 495 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: they're going offensive lineman at seven right, because he's a 496 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: big guy guy right. I mean, there's only so many 497 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: big guys on the planet with three like a Jawan 498 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: Taylor or Jonah Williams has right and in fact, they 499 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: think there's a bunch of tight ends you can help 500 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: you bet and the other I would just at some 501 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: point like to see this franchise have a guy at 502 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: that spot where you say that's our tight end for you. 503 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: Because I think the league is changing, it would not 504 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: surprise me to see them try to get too tight 505 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: ends a free agent Jesse James and a rookie. I 506 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: think they may go the way the Patriots went when 507 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: they had Hernandez, and well maybe they of back then 508 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: in the first round. Who knows, maybe they can get back. 509 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: Although I don't know if there's anyone worth coming up 510 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: to seven four. But the tight ends it looks like, 511 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: and the receivers all kind of clumped together, you're the 512 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: best one to do right around the start of the 513 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: second round, so you can get a lot of that 514 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: kind of work done, but the big guys don't last. 515 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: We'll see, all right, thank you're probably right, probably right. 516 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: Well I didn't say I was. I just said I 517 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: think I said you were approval. Just write that down. 518 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: Good coffee, it's the coffee, that's right. We'll take a 519 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: break when we come back, we'll look at some other 520 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: weapons from the combine the week it was uh, and 521 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: we'll look forward to top tweets at the end of 522 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: the program. Back after this. When this is a sound 523 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: of a waterfall in nature, there's no cause for a concern. 524 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: But it's a sound of water gushing through your living 525 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: room ceiling because of Piper's inside the wall. There's reason 526 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: to panic unless you pick up the phone and call 527 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: one eight hundred serf Pro. 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And then the 550 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: next day actually on the flight from there to Tampa 551 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: for the East West game, I watched the tape and 552 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this guy's dominating the college game as 553 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: a blocker. So that's a unique situation. Plus Now he's 554 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: not as big as Gronk and as tall as Drunk, 555 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: but he's a good route. Honnery catches everything. I just 556 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of value with that in the 557 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: NFL right now. And then his teammate, No, a Fan, 558 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: is just he's just a piece of dynamite. I mean, 559 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: he's explosive, really stretched the scene. He's going to generate 560 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: a lot of big plays in the passing game. So 561 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: I get asked, you know, who were the players that 562 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: can help some of these young quarterbacks in the NFL 563 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: that we have so many these second year quarterbacks. And 564 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: to me, I look at the tight ends. Those two 565 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: guys I mentioned, and I also put IRV Smith in 566 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: there from from Alabama. Those guys are gonna be huge 567 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: assets to a young quarterback. Combined. Almost an overloaded information, 568 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: isn't it. So many people, so many opinions, so many numbers, 569 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: so many players. You remember a few weeks ago and 570 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: I said, Daniel Jeremiah, that man likes his tight ends. 571 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: He does. You saw it right there. I do remember that. Laugh. 572 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: Of course, the fan kid who's running right here, that's 573 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: the one that most people think has the chance to 574 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: be the best tight end out of this group, and 575 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: two weeks ago you barely heard his name over T J. 576 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: Hawkins and his teammate Hawkinson certainly has You know, he 577 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: had a couple of clips this year of of what 578 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: he did to eyes on the line of scrimmage that 579 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: had every analyst talking about him. However, I think fancy 580 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: the guy with much more upside. Well, he certainly is 581 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: the receiver dynamic out of the two, he ran like 582 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: a four eight four fast. The reason that Hockinson feels 583 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: like this team it's so hard to find. I would 584 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: say they're a diamond dozen. It's easier to find the 585 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: the pure pass catching tight end than it is to 586 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: find the guy who can do both. Hockinson feels like 587 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: the one guy who has a chance to be what 588 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: uh what, Brian, you and I think of as the 589 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: old school tight end and you know, the guy who 590 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: can do both. The Hall of Fame level player usually 591 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: has to be the guy who can do both at 592 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: at some level better chance. Hockinson feels more like that 593 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: versatile guy. Um just feels so weird to me because 594 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: I've already had the guy who can do Julius Thomas 595 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: was already the guy who Okay, he's in the field. 596 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: Well you have a third white out right, So that 597 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: was almost useless. The interesting thing to me twenty years ago, 598 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: Gnzalez was hanging out in this hallway right outside our 599 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: studio here and he went overall, well, he's a I 600 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: mean sure, first ballot Hall of Famer. I mean, the 601 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: guy's as good as you'll find. I look at Hockinson 602 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: and Fant and these guys who were being thought of 603 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: his first round picks there are nowhere near his class. Well, 604 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: the position has I think added value. I mean it's 605 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: it's much more accepted as you have to have it 606 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: now that you have, so I think it's a different 607 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: So need is more important than value. Yea, Gonzalez was 608 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: a rocky, sure thing hall and he had very few flaws, 609 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: and as I recall from that draft, it was acknowledged 610 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: that he was going to be a big time player 611 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: for a long time. If he was coming at now, 612 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: I might be top five, even even not knowing what 613 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: his career, same circumstances, same thought. A tight end who 614 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: was that perfect, if you will, would probably a top 615 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: five pick as opposed to thirteen highest and tight ends 616 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: ever been drafted. You know, it's it's Davis six, right, 617 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, No. Ron Kramer in fifty seven was drafted 618 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: fourth by the Green Bay Pack, and then Mike Ditka 619 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: went fifth in sixty to the Bears, and Riley Odams 620 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: went fifth, and then you have to jump all the 621 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: way to Kellen Winslow Jr. Who went six in oh 622 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: four and Vernon Davis who went six in oh six, 623 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: and asked, men, tell you right? They Odems had a 624 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: long career in Denver, an expert. There's a lot of people, 625 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: Riley who But the reality of it is at the 626 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: position as you had. Hey, look, there were twenty four 627 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: players I'm sorry, twenty six tight ends wrapped in the 628 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 1: first round over the last twenty four years. I mean 629 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the time of the Jaguars AND's some 630 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: really good ones, the estup which was Tony gain Tala. 631 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 1: I maybe this isn't the right way to compare it, 632 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: but I'm not taking T. J. Hockenson or No a 633 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: fan at seven. They're not in the class. They've got 634 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: to be that good. But if you they would be 635 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: Vernon Davis. Your picks for one, unless you want to trade, 636 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't think it will happen. 637 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: I can see the argument much more now than I 638 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: could have ten years ago, especially the game changes. It's 639 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: just yeah, the thing that doesn't change, though, the big guys. 640 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: So we want to talk about some weapons here, and 641 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: we'll start with a guy who's making everybody's list, and 642 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: that's DK Metcalf, the kid from Old miss Uh six 643 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: three and a half almost almost six four two thirty pounds, 644 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: ran up four three three, had a forty and a 645 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: half inch vertical bench pressed seven times. I mean, if 646 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: there was a guy who rose up the draft boards 647 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: at the combine, no one rose faster than him. And 648 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: if if I was an NFL scout, which by the way, 649 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm not lynn Um, if I had him fifteen before 650 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: the combine, I would take attack and put him right 651 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: at fifteen. I would be very scared of pushing him 652 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: up based on that. If he thought he was good 653 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: before five. But just because he came in digging strong, 654 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: I mean beg and strong doesn't mean great. Look at me, 655 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 1: I'm not great, but I am ripped. It's I get 656 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: that he ran fast, I get that he had a 657 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: great combin. He scares me on that front. If you're 658 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: pushing him up based on what he did in any 659 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: of it. If you liked him anyway, fine, well pro 660 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: Day is gonna have a lot to say with it. 661 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: Can he run the four three three? You know outdoors 662 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: on grass at will Miss. When he does use pro Day, 663 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: he'll be fast. I mean he can go deep. The 664 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: question on him is the neck injury, route running ability 665 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: as well consistency in college. Some of his teammates at 666 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: the Common I forget which one said he did what 667 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: he was asked to do. Old Mrs Offense didn't ask 668 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: him to do a lot of short and intermediate stuff, 669 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 1: is my understanding. So can he do that? Uh? Yes, 670 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: he's big, Yes, he's strong. Yes he can go down 671 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: field if that's all you can do. Uh, he may 672 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: be really fast, jailing can run with him, so as 673 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: fast as you are in the NFL. It's very hard 674 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: in this day and age to just get by on fast, 675 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: strong downfield. You gotta be able to do everything. Can 676 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: he do everything? He's clearly the top receiver in this class. 677 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: I mean Marky's brown comparatively speaking, a kid from Oklahoma. 678 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: I mean it's really small and he's five ft nine. 679 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: He's he's not that small. He's he's like his quarter pain. 680 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: He's also hurt, which right he had with five one. 681 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: But I mean, now, now you gotta get to the 682 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: second round. Just start talking about legitimate spots for the A. G. 683 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: Brown kid from Old miss who's the other uh and 684 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: Keel Harry from Arizona State, they're they're the kid from 685 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Starting to shoot. You wonder how far Brown 686 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 1: will slip. Brown is going into the after with an injury, 687 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: which you would hope for his sake, wouldn't push him 688 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: too far down. But he'll go to, you know, the 689 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: first round. So we'll see with Metcalf. The comparisons to college, 690 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: the consistency. Everyone's talking about him being the next Tulio 691 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: Jones and Calvin Johnson. But you heard about those guys 692 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 1: so much in college, and I feel like we didn't 693 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: hear that much about this guy in college. You didn't 694 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: hear anybody putting him on the heisman. Everyone knew that 695 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson was going to be a star. By the way, 696 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson twenty pounds heavier than not because he was thirteen. 697 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: He waited at two forty at the combine, jumped four 698 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 1: inches higher than this kid didn't ran just as fast. 699 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Calvin Johnson was a freak of my fanks. 700 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: He this guy looks the part right now. Whether he 701 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: can play the part or not. As you mentioned, he 702 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: didn't do it all miss because the neck injury. We'll 703 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: see if he's he doesn't feel to me like immediate 704 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: impact guy on the level. If you're thinking that his 705 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: combine means he's going to translate into yards, eight catches 706 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: and thirteen touchdowns the next year, I think you're I 707 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: think you're gonna be disciplined. I think it's worth noting 708 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: since Calvin Johnson is one of the better receivers that 709 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: we've seen in the modern era. H he only had 710 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: forty eight catches in seven fifty six yards and four 711 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: touchdowns in his rookie season. Is the number one overall 712 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: pick in two thousand seven. So the thought about a 713 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: receiver coming in and totally transforming your offense, it's really rare. 714 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: And you have been the one who's beat that drum 715 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: more often than not. I will beat a dead horse. 716 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: Oh now that so there's the receiver. We talked a 717 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: little bit about the tight ends. We're kind of giving 718 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: you the numbers there. Um, just one thought Hackinson. Is 719 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: he what he's gonna be? I mean, you hear about 720 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: guys who are as good as they can is that 721 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: they're already hit their ceiling. Does he look to you 722 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: like a guy who's perhaps at his ceiling coming out 723 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: of college. Um, I'd say you would think that it's 724 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: it's uh, I'm thinking of another Dallas, another Iowa tight end, 725 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: Dallas Clark. When I look at him, by the way, Well, 726 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: Dallas wasn't as much of a blocker. Uh. I used 727 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: to tease Dallas that his next block his first. He 728 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: wasn't that bad. But he would stick his head and 729 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: but he wouldn't grind. I mean like he didn't uh 730 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: blew people out of the water. Dallas was very much 731 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: a third receiver typed in it, who could go in 732 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: and block. This guy is more of a blocker who 733 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: can go out and catch. Although I think he's more 734 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: versatile than that. Um, I'm not. I don't know enough 735 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: about his body type to know how much bigger he 736 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: can get. I don't think he's Mark Bavarro in the 737 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: sense that he's just gonna absolutely absolutely blow you away. 738 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: But he does to me fit what these guys talk 739 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: about wanting out of the tight end position. It's I 740 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: think it was last year when Kaufin was talking about 741 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: tight ends. The first thing he talks about is the 742 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: difficulty to find a guy who can catch and who 743 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: you can put him in as a interior line blocker 744 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: and not give away what you're gonna do. If you 745 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: have him on the field, the defense doesn't know what 746 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna what you're gonna do offensively. That's what they're 747 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: looking for to what they haven't had. Yeah, Hawkinson and 748 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: press conference at least seemed to want to stress NFL 749 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: teams that he really enjoys block and they kept asking 750 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: about his playmaking abilities. He said, yeah, I can catch, 751 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: but I love to block, and stressed that that was 752 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: what his favorite part of being about tight end was. 753 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 1: If he is indeed that rare. If you if you 754 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: can't find that guy, well then maybe he does go 755 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: in the top ten. The only concern you have is 756 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: when you said there and wash him speak, Um, he 757 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: he didn't overwhelm you with how physically imposing he was. Um, 758 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: Now I have a Dallas Clark thing. By the way, 759 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: that the comparison is making because Dallas that big of 760 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: a guy either. No, but he can. When the Colds 761 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: drafted Dallas, they weren't thinking he was going to come 762 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: in and be an inline blocker. They were thinking he 763 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: was going to replace Marcus was the eventual you know who, 764 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: same style with a little better Um. If I if 765 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna be that inline blocker guy in the NFL, 766 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: you would think you'd feel more physically imposing. But from 767 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: all reports and watching tape, he can do it, so 768 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: we'll see. And then the other thing is the offensive linement. 769 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: We talked about them, but uh, John Williams is more 770 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: of a guard. Is that what you heard in uh 771 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: in the Annapolis last week that he was a tackle 772 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: at the tackle? Uh, there's a lot of talk about 773 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: his arms, and you know, goodness gracious, they were an 774 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: inch shorter in the norm, so it means he can't play. Uh. 775 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: But right tackle or interior was sort of the book 776 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: rather than left tackle. I didn't think they pushed him 777 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: all the way down to guard. And I say pushed 778 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,479 Speaker 1: all the way down because usually it starts left tackle, 779 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 1: right tackle, and then guard. UM can play right tackle 780 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: might be more ideally suited. The interior was what you 781 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: sort of got the vibe for after the arm like things. So, 782 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: but there's been really great right tackles with that really 783 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: long arms too. Sod seriously didn't have the longest arm right. 784 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: His story is interesting though. I was reading that he 785 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: was asked to move insider, play guard or center at 786 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: Alabama and said, I was the best tackle in college football, 787 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: the best left tackle, So why would I move in? 788 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: They were asking him at the combine, you know what, 789 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: you consider playing anything else but left tackle? He said, yeah, 790 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: of course, I'll plan any where I am. But once again, 791 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: I was the best left tackle in college football because 792 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: they get paid the most. Right right, all right? And 793 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: then the Taylor kid. I mean, you guys are both too. 794 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: Did you follow the Taylor kid much? Yeah, he was 795 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: hyped up of the offensive lineman. And let's clarify that 796 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: point a little bit. We both went to Florida. Slenns 797 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: a Gator. He's such a hater. I'm fine with Florida, 798 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: but I can't. I can't claim to be the Gator 799 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: that Shelena is. That's fair. He's a big cat. I 800 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: won't put him on my level either. That is a 801 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: big road grading. He's a big boy. I mean, he 802 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: looks like he is the kind that would fit Doug 803 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 1: Morone's mentality of let's put our hands on the ground 804 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: to drive. This feels like an interesting class to me. 805 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: And you can remember easily the time when if you 806 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: had this many left tackles and there's a few near 807 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: the top of the draft. John Taylor's one dealer from 808 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: Washington State. There was a time in the NFL when 809 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 1: if you had this many left tackles, they would automatically 810 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 1: be talked about in the conversation the top five because 811 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: the position was that important. Right now it's turned to 812 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: where defensive line. It's an unusually good year for edge rushers, 813 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: so that's why so many of them are at the top. 814 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: But I think fifteen years ago Taylor would be talked 815 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: about at the top five pick because the importance of 816 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,760 Speaker 1: the position now, left tackle is not the absolute premium 817 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: spot that it was when Tony was Sally played and 818 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: when Orlando Pace played in these guys, so it does 819 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: seem like teams where the Jaguars are you can potentially 820 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: get a big time left tackle where it might have 821 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: cost you a top five pick to get that same 822 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: guy a while back. You keep saying left tackle, but 823 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: he's clearly a right tackle or tackle, Okay, right either side? 824 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: All right, Just want to make sure we were on 825 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: the same page with that. All right, There you go 826 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: when we come back. Ozone snapshots still ahead. Top tweets. 827 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: This is Jags Drive time on a Tuesday morning, first 828 00:42:52,600 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: Tuesday of March. When you hear think. Duval Motor Company 829 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: a proud partner of the Jacksonville chad Wars. Since nineteen sixteen, 830 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: Duval Motor Company has proudly served Northeast Florida, offering the 831 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: latest products and services with hometown hospitality. 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All proceeds benefit our charity partners. 851 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,280 Speaker 1: Cheers eighty proof Tito's Handmade Vodka, distilled and bottled in Austin, 852 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: Texas Titos Vodka dot com. Yes, good questions, because I 853 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: think there's a pressure and it has to be on 854 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: there right now. Because here's a team with seven or 855 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,959 Speaker 1: eight Pro Bowl guys on defense and you know, making 856 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 1: of a decent offensive line if everybody comes back healthy, 857 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: and have to upgrade the wide receiver position. But no, 858 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: I think that you can see it's it's a good 859 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: football team. It's a team don't went to a championship game. 860 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 1: Two years ago, and then just right down the tubes 861 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: that they got to fix that. And of course if 862 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't get fixed, then things get kind of fixed 863 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: that aren't very positive in the front office. Stop guessing 864 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,760 Speaker 1: that he was one of the guys that just assumed 865 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: that Nick Foles is here. Yeah, he was, though he 866 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: was also kind of big on Haskins. He gave both scenarios. Yes, okay, 867 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: time for the ozone, Time for the ozone, the zone. 868 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: Nice clothes, Max, that was nice. Let's go to Matt 869 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,760 Speaker 1: from Jacksonville. Folks speculating about Nick Foles being the next 870 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: big thing in Jack's are blowing smoke. He flamed down 871 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: and Philly flamed down in Casey flamed down in St. Louis. 872 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: Foles is an excellent, if not the goat of backup quarterbacks. 873 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: To expect him to come to Jacksonville and lead us 874 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl is wishful thinking. Go ahead, change 875 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: my mind. Well, I don't necessarily think I can change 876 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,760 Speaker 1: his mind, first of all, because if if you're anti 877 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 1: Folds for those reasons, you're not going to come off 878 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: of it until he shows you differently. I don't disagree 879 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: with a lot of what of what he said. I 880 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: see Folds as the best available uh and over a 881 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: twenty year period, when you look at the at the 882 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: free agent quarterbacks, you're usually not going to get franchise guy. Guarantee. 883 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: I know I'm improving the position and getting a top 884 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: ten guy. We guess what, Top ten quarterbacks aren't available, 885 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: so he's the best available option right now. They want 886 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,720 Speaker 1: to try to improve the position. I have no problem 887 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: with the concept of going after him to try to 888 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: upgrade it marginally. I don't think you're gonna see Blake 889 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: just this mammoth difference, but I think you can get improvement. 890 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: And I think he's a guy who can function well. 891 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: If you can get him in ten situations at the 892 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 1: end of games next year where clutch play, cool under fire, 893 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: distribute the ball at the right place, he'll probably win 894 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,919 Speaker 1: seven or eight of those games. He's a clutched guy, 895 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: but he's probably not gonna win a whole lot of 896 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: games where if you're going to the game thinking we've 897 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: got to win this thing and put it all on 898 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: the backs of the quarterback, he's probably gonna be that. 899 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: So allow me to passwords with Matt. It's Matt. If 900 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: if mats email said, not going to carry us to 901 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, right, absolutely. Yeah. However, if you're going 902 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: to pay him, probably gonna cause you at least twenty 903 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: million dollars. I expect him to lead you there, right, 904 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: or at least get you back towards that. That being 905 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: in the in the hunt for it. The lead part 906 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: is the key part here, because if he's going to 907 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: upgrade you, he's going to make the throws, make the 908 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: plays at the moments where Blake did not. Now, in 909 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: order to do that, he's gotta have Leonard behind him, 910 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: assuming that Leonard is healthy. And he's got to have 911 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: a tight end to throw too, because when he was 912 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: the quarterback in Philly, he threw the ball to the 913 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: tight end on average through to them ten times a game, 914 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: ding ding, ding ding ding. You gotta get that piece 915 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: in place too. But if the Jaguars build a roster 916 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: and then try to compliment it with the defense, which 917 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: John Clayton mentioned has Pro Bowl caliber guys at every level, 918 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: no reason why he couldn't lead you to the super Bowl. 919 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: That's not wishful thinking. That's what you're paying for it. 920 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 1: But he's not going to be Drew Brees who lifts 921 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 1: a team up and carries them. Right, that's not out there. No, 922 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: it's not. The last time it was out there. The 923 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: last time it was out there was Breece. Well, Peyton 924 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: was out there, but it was a different I mean 925 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 1: so twice, so it ain't it ain't off No, it's not. 926 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, when Peyton came in, he came 927 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: in with a dominant defense, right, I mean, that was 928 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: the key to him. We're not gonna ask you to 929 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 1: throw the ball for times a game like you did 930 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 1: in your glory days in Indie. We get it. You're 931 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 1: coming off of a neck injury. We got a defense 932 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: and a running you'd just be you. If Nick is 933 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 1: what we've seen in the last two years, with this 934 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: defense and improved cast of characters and offense, that should 935 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: be enough to be able to lead you towards the superport. Right. 936 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: But if you're thinking he's gonna be Breezer Manning come 937 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: in here. But if you're gonna pay him, darn Well 938 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 1: was sure that they expect him right to lead them 939 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 1: towards that. That's where you're hoping to get better. You're 940 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: not gonna believe what the next O zone is about. 941 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: Come on, and it's something to do with Nick Foles. 942 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: I thought that was Kam. If the rumors aren't true 943 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,439 Speaker 1: and the Jacks do sign Nick Foles, would you still 944 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback early in this draft? I'm I would 945 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: they want? If I could have to? Yeah, I mean 946 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: I would. I would. If they signed Folds and they 947 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: take Haskins. R. Lock, I'll noide my head and good 948 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: Jacks that high Lock that you have that much confidence. 949 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: I think it at number seven, think right now with 950 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: the way his team needs a quarterback. When you're taking 951 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:04,280 Speaker 1: in the top ten, you hope signing Folds. Here's their dilemma, 952 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 1: and we've talked about it, signing Folds. You hope that 953 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: you're playing your way out of the top ten next year, 954 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 1: right for sure, So you're not gonna be a position 955 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: to grab a quarter year. There's a very high percentage 956 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: chance that even if it's if it's just Lock that 957 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,879 Speaker 1: you like I did it just Lock, that just Lock 958 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: will be better than the guy who's available at twenty 959 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: five next year. And you hope you're ticking. So if 960 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: you're you're trying to find that long term guy, better 961 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: chance to get in it with Lock this year than 962 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: whoever is available next year. So if your philosophy always 963 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: hear a let's talk about well, I would take a 964 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 1: quarterback every year. Take a quarterback everyone, Well, that's silly 965 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: because you can't do that. But philosophically, the people who 966 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: want to take a quarterback every year and take a 967 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 1: chance on that guy developing locks a better choice than 968 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: which you would find next year. If you think Folds 969 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,399 Speaker 1: is any good. If one of those guys is the man, 970 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: don't pass on the man because you don't have it. 971 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: Don't ever Paris and the Jaguars in their history have 972 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: passed on the man. No. Four in OH five. Don't 973 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,720 Speaker 1: pass on the man. If if Locke is the man, great, 974 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,439 Speaker 1: even if he's not ready to be the man yet. 975 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: If he's your guy, take him as the great. Joe 976 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: Jackson said, Once I'm the man, write it down, don't 977 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: pass on? Would that? Would that be shoeless? Joe Jackson? 978 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 1: Joe Jackson of is she really going out with him? No? 979 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 1: I know, I was just making a baseball reference for Joe. 980 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: He's the man who gave you the OYO. I can't 981 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: believe there's no schlint. Joe Jackson was so so so so. 982 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: Joe Jackson was a prominent slash punk singer in the 983 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 1: last half of the seventies who later made you know 984 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: hits such as is she really going out with him? 985 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: And stepping out, stepping up? I appreciate that last one 986 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: bill from Jacksonville John statistics, and you tell us the 987 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 1: Jaguars had a top ten offense last year before the 988 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: injuries set him. So why is there a need to 989 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: overhaul the offense? And I'm not talking just Blake Bortles, 990 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 1: which appears this team is about to do. Thanks go jack. 991 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: I think there's a perception that an overhaul is coming, 992 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 1: and I guess it's how you define overhaul. Well, let's 993 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: be honest, at the end of the year last year, 994 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: it was really rugged to sit and watch that offense. 995 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: The overhaul really seems to fit. But to me, and 996 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm the one answered the question, you're the man and 997 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 1: the man who gave you the Hulu, it's uh, they're 998 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: gonna change quarterback, they're gonna change tight end, they're gonna 999 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: change offensive line, and they're gonna change one or two 1000 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: offensive line. That's that sounds like an overhaul to me. 1001 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: That's four or five spots but that's sort of I mean, 1002 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 1: that's not that uncommon. Yeah, when you're changing quarterback, they 1003 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: weren't changing quarterback with I feel like an overhaul. Well no, 1004 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: then you're just really affect you're changing a quarterback. Yeah, 1005 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 1: then you're just retooling, right, Um, and I see this 1006 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: as part of a retool. Okay, then I do an 1007 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: overhall because again I think with overhaul you would see 1008 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: two new receivers. Story. I don't think they're gonna overhaul receiver. 1009 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: I think their offensive line is going to have three, 1010 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: maybe four the guys who started last year. New coordinate, 1011 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: running back, quarterback, new starters, and offensive line. New philosophy 1012 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: with tight end. I don't know. I haven't say. You 1013 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: say read tool, I say overhaul. We'll see who's right. 1014 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,760 Speaker 1: You say, Tomatoto, We'll take a break, come back. Top tweets. 1015 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 1: Next here on Jagsu Rive Better, Join by Star. We 1016 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: never forget that it's your money. You can step up 1017 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: to luxury now. Hello, I'm Dan Fields. 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We've lowered or eliminated 1032 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 1: over half our fees and enhanced our already competitive rates, 1033 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,839 Speaker 1: saving members more than a million dollars this year, in 1034 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: addition to the millions we saved them every year. If 1035 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: you believe that saving money is better, Joined by Star, 1036 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 1: We never forget that it's your money, all loan subject 1037 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,760 Speaker 1: to approval, insured by n c U A top tweets, 1038 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: to tweets, top t tweets, top tweets, Like we didn't 1039 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: get enough of this guy, Pete prisco Last week we 1040 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: were set up right next to the CBS Sports set, 1041 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: so Pete was right there next. I'd love to say 1042 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 1: something snarky, but I love he's great. But man, we 1043 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: got a lot of them last week and he was 1044 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 1: on Jaguars Thursdays. Pete Priscoe, if I were GM of 1045 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, I'd rather pay Teddy Bridgewater a smaller deal 1046 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: than give Nick Foles over twenty million a year, which 1047 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't think they will do. By the way, who's 1048 00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:02,400 Speaker 1: in the market interesting con up two Pete. I mean, 1049 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,919 Speaker 1: he makes a valid point that you are going with 1050 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 1: two backup quarterbacks and you're going to pay them like 1051 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 1: they are starters, and there's a risk with that. Pete 1052 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: is and always has been the quarterback guy. I mean, 1053 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 1: he was just always hammering the quarterback position. I could 1054 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: take it. He probably likes haskins Um even though he's not. Yes, 1055 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,439 Speaker 1: he was very down on Kyler Murray whereas the whole 1056 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 1: rest of the CBS studio set was all up on him, 1057 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 1: and he was the one that was. Pete likes the 1058 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: pocket passer. Yeah, and point here is his main point here, 1059 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: I think is that he's not sure that the market 1060 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,920 Speaker 1: for foals, meaning that the contract for foals is going 1061 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: to get to twenty millions. So you're talking about contracts 1062 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 1: that's been the That's what his last point, which I 1063 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 1: don't think they will do. By the way, Um, he 1064 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 1: doesn't think that there's any reason to pay foals twenty 1065 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 1: million if there's no other teams in the hunt. And 1066 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: that's what I think that tampering period day will play 1067 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: that out. It feels like right now there's enough other 1068 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,760 Speaker 1: sources saying don't count out the Giants, the Redskins, the Dolphins, 1069 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 1: that it's almost trying to create a market for him 1070 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: that quietly there aren't people saying, hey, whoa hold on, 1071 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: we'll see. My impression from talking to people who are 1072 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 1: more in the know than I am, is that there's 1073 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: no way the Giants, there's no way the Dolphins and 1074 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: the Skins can't pay him. That's sort of the buzz uh. 1075 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: If that's the case, then where's the market to push 1076 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: him up much past fifteen sixteen millions? Yeah, So if 1077 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: they can get him for that, it's an unbelievable bard Right, 1078 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to our guy. Calais Campbell would 1079 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 1: it beat top seats without him. These boys out here 1080 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: moving with Shawn Garritt and Michigan mont has Sweat our 1081 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: blazing fast, making themselves some money. He also tweeted out 1082 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 1: that when he shoot up to the combine, he was 1083 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 1: thirty pounds overweight and was humbled rather quickly when he 1084 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: fell in the draft. Um. I remember him as being 1085 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: a guy that a lot of people fault was was 1086 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 1: you know at his height and his ability that he 1087 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: showed at Miami that Calais was gonna be a first 1088 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: round pick. I didn't realize he was thirty pounds ever, 1089 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 1: way that explained why he was the second round pick. Yeah, 1090 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 1: the last mistake he may, yeah, exactly. Montes Sweat ran 1091 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 1: four four one, fastest defensive lineman ever to run at 1092 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: the combine. I don't know what Rashan gary Um ran, 1093 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: but and again I didn't sit in front of the 1094 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: TV and watched the combine, but I remember when I 1095 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 1: saw a tweet about Sweat, I went four four one 1096 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 1: because he's six six something like that. That's moving. That 1097 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: is absolutely fun. There are a couple of linebackers that 1098 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: ran in the four fours too, right Bush, Devin White. 1099 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 1: It's an unbelievably good year for edge rushers. And I 1100 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 1: can think back a couple of years ago there were 1101 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: a couple of years where they were really none. Uh 1102 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: so this is the year to get it if you can. 1103 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: And the impressive thing about four four one, by the 1104 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:57,439 Speaker 1: way he did without breaking Ah here John yea, are 1105 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: we done built up to put one more on one? Alright? 1106 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey our guy. Everyone is freaking out about this 1107 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: tweet him hyping up Dwayne Haskins to come to Jackson. Yes, sir, 1108 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: I think you're the one. It's something to remember that 1109 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is not a scalp. He's not the general manager. 1110 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 1: Everyone is freaking out about this. This is just Jalen 1111 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 1: walking out of Florida States Practice facility after his rookie year. 1112 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: And he was talking about four at four Fowart fos 1113 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: what he said for before you talking about Dalvin Cook 1114 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 1: at number four. He was really pushing for Jalvin Cookie, 1115 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 1: his teammate, who obviously was a tremendous college football This 1116 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 1: is probably the fiftieth guy that Jalen has tweeted about wanting. 1117 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 1: Jalen loves everybody. He's honest, everybody. Everybody. There's a list 1118 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: of people I know he doesn't, right, Yeah, yeah, there's 1119 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 1: if there's five hundred players, Jalen loves hates hundred. Yeah, 1120 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 1: well he's willing to give you his opinions. No, it's great, 1121 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 1: that's fine. Well, that'll do it. We want the whole 1122 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 1: all hour today. You look at that. Didn't feel like 1123 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: we were breaking a sweat? Hey, John, do you like that? 1124 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm feeling that now. All right, that'll do it for 1125 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 1: this week's edition, thanks to Joe and to Max. Next 1126 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: week we'll do this all again until free agency starts 1127 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: next Tuesday. Folks, heavy, pleasant, frigid. Yeah,