1 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Well, hello everybody, it is me Rosi o'donald, your host 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: of Onward with Rosi o'donald, and we have very big news. 3 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: This is our last episode of the podcast. Don't cry, 4 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: it's okay, we'll figure it out. We have been doing 5 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: it for a year, and I've really enjoyed it. It's 6 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: been really a wonderful kind of experience and experiment for me. 7 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: You know, I took a year and lived in Malibu 8 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: and then I was like, you know what, I'm going 9 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: to try to do a podcast for a year and 10 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: see where it goes, how it feels, and how we do. 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: And you know what we did really well, and we 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: got so much feedback and so many great responses. Is that, 13 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, I've been thrilled with the process of the 14 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: whole thing. But here we are a year in and 15 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: I had a year contract, and then you know, we're done, 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: and I think we're going to take some time to 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: figure out maybe a different way to do a podcast. 18 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: You know what I really miss about this format is 19 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: the live interaction of people calling in. 20 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 2: You know, I just. 21 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: I wish it felt more vibrant, you know, than a conversation. 22 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: Now I understand podcasts are different than radio shows, and 23 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: we were at a kind of a loss at the beginning. 24 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: Laurie and I and here's Lori East, I'd say hello, 25 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: Laurie has produced this with me, and when we started, 26 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: she and I were not really podcast. 27 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: Listeners, never listening to one. 28 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: No, I think the only one I listened to on 29 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: any kind of regular basis during the Trump administration, I 30 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: listened to Podsave America and I really am grateful for 31 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: that podcast because they kept me sane during a difficult 32 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: time in the country and a difficult time personally. I 33 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: think a lot of people wanted to know what was 34 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: going on and what was happening, and they filled me 35 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: in in a manner that kept me kind of sane 36 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: and stable. 37 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: So I'm grateful to them. 38 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: But as far as doing my own, you know, we 39 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: were a little bit at a loss. 40 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: Behind the eight ball. 41 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: We were like, let's just try to do an interview 42 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: and see what happens, and that's what we did. But 43 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: the conversation, the connection the thoughts of other people in 44 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: the midst of talking is something that I want to explore, 45 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: and so we're talking to some people who are interested 46 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: in doing that. And before you know it. We will 47 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: be back with something new and something different and still 48 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: in the podcast genre, I believe, but more of something live. 49 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I think that that would be that 50 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: would be something that I would invest in in a 51 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: different way. It's it's almost like boxing, which I've never done, 52 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: by the way, but when I watch, you know, when 53 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: I think about the live feeling of a live show, 54 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, the UFC boxing, whatever you sport, 55 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: there's there's interactions, there's the audience, there's the interview where 56 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: there's the crowd, there's the the you know, and and 57 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: that is something that I miss as a live performer. 58 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: And I love the voice memos, right, the voice memos 59 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: were great, But sometimes I would say, one hundred percent 60 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: of the time, I want to talk to that person, 61 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, I want to go, hey, where are you from? What, 62 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: what's your story? How's your life, what's happening? What do 63 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: you want to talk about? And so we're going to 64 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: figure that out as we go along. And there's lots 65 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: of places you can still find me. You can find 66 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: me on TikTok at Rosie YouTube live. We're putting some 67 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: of the shows up there from way back thirty years ago. 68 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: Is it thirty years ago? I think I believe it is. 69 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: So we'll keep you in the loop. We'll figure out 70 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: exactly what it's going to be and how we're going 71 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: to do it, and we'll let you know, and it's 72 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: going to be sooner than later, because we want to 73 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: stay involved as this country goes through the most important 74 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: election of its time. I don't know how it's going 75 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: to turn out, but I definitely want to be involved 76 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: in the conversation and I hope that you will want 77 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: to be too. 78 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: And that's it. It's been. 79 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: It's been a great year and I've had a great time, 80 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: and you know, I will keep you up to date 81 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: on what's going on in my life. And as for now, 82 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: what's going on is my dog, which is a clay dog, really, Kuma, 83 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: who you know? I gotta say, Laurie, how excited are 84 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: you about my love of dogs? You are the ultimate 85 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: dog person? 86 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: And could I just tell the people how not a 87 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 3: dog person you were? 88 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: To really? I'm really, I know a million degree. 89 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: That was our joke. I would see a dog and 90 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: be like, oh, a dog, and you'd see a baby 91 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: and be like a baby. And we'd run in two 92 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: different directions. 93 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: Right exactly. 94 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: But now Kuma has changed you. Well. 95 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: I have to say that being at Guide Dogs of 96 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: America for those ten days and getting trained as the 97 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: handler of this autism service dog for my child, Clay, 98 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: I was so moved by the whole experience of what 99 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: these people have dedicated their life to. You know, there 100 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: were six visually impaired people, and there were six women 101 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: who happened to be in our pod, and two were 102 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: veterans from the war and had mobility issues as a result, 103 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: and two worked in social work hospital situations, and two 104 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: myself and Laura, were autism moms, parents of autistic girls. 105 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: And so we had a wonderful experience learning what we 106 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: had to do and getting our butts up at six 107 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: something every morning and working until seven at night, and 108 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: really learning everything we had to learn in order to 109 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: take care of this dog. And one of the things 110 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: that I noticed, Laurie, from your love of dogs is 111 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: how you would say good night to your dogs every night. 112 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: And I remember like you would stay over sometimes and 113 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: I remember thinking where's she going, like as we were 114 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: like heading up to the rooms, right you you know, 115 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: you go upstairs, I'm upstairs. I'm halfway up the stairs, 116 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, where are you going? And You're like, I'm 117 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: just gonna say good night. 118 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: To the dog. I was like, you're gonna what. 119 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: And now the dog, Kuma, sleeps in a crate right 120 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: next to the bed, so I can see her all night, 121 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: so that if she moves around or she needs anything, 122 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: now she never does. She goes in there, happily into 123 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: her kennel, trained, gets down there and waits until the 124 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: morning when you are ready to get her out of 125 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: the crate. So I get up a little before seven, 126 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: I do my morning ritual stuff. I go in the bathroom, 127 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: I do what I have to do. I brush my teeth. 128 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: It takes some time, you know, And then I wake 129 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: up my kid. And then I open the crate and 130 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: happily the dog is wagging their tail, and go downstairs, 131 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: goes outside, does her business, and we're off to start 132 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: the day. So it's been an amazing experience. And I 133 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: didn't know if I'd. 134 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: Be able to do it. Yeah, did you think I'd 135 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: be able to do it? 136 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: The second told me that it was ten days in 137 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: a dorm like situation. I was like, really, like even there, 138 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: I was so proud of you to take that on. 139 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: You were so focused, you were so I'm going to 140 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: do this, And we made the joke about what are 141 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: the sheets, Like, you know, we because we've done tours 142 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: and we've done on set. 143 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been on the road before, and like. 144 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: We'd walk in the hotel and we'd both be like. 145 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: Yes, that's not going to work. This isn't gonna work. 146 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, just there and then you text me 147 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: and you're like, I picked up the poop, It's okay. 148 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: And I was just like, you're turning in. 149 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: There were things about a dog, sensory things that I 150 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: was like, the slobber. I was like, now I get 151 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: it all over me, it's all over all my pants. 152 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: It's I got a little towel I clip on my 153 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: my my gene so that I can use the towel 154 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: to wipe my hands. I have the purell all the time, 155 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: like you do. 156 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: Law. Yeah. Well you used to tell me what yeah, 157 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: babies would do and what didn't bother you, and I'd 158 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: be like, I'd be like vomiting in the back. 159 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: Of yeah, like cleaning a diaper, a throw up or 160 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: it never bothered me one bit. You know, I never 161 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: thought about it with the baby, but somehow with a dog, 162 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: it just felt like it was overwhelming and I didn't 163 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: realize what you get back. But this dog has trained 164 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: their entire life in order to be of service to 165 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: someone else, and who they are in service of is 166 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: Clay Yes, and Blakey is here with his fiance Teresa, 167 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: and they took her for a long walk, and they 168 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: walked past a dog park because you're not supposed to 169 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: take the dog a guy's dog or to the dog 170 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: park because of either fights that the dog would get 171 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: hurt or just bad habits they would pick up, and 172 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: so they tell you not to take the dog to 173 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: a dog park. But they were walking through a dog park, 174 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, near a dog park, and she didn't Kuma 175 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: did not respond, didn't like poll to go there, or 176 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: didn't do anything, and they hurt a kid having a 177 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: little bit of a tantrum or a meltdown, and then 178 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: Kuma looked up. She looked, and she looked to the 179 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: kid that was in the middle of a crisis, and 180 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: then she wanted to go like she has been so 181 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: trained to understand that a child in crisis that that 182 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: kind of a cry is her indication to soothe the child, 183 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: you know. So I just found it so fascinating and 184 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: the dedication that people have given, Like since the baby 185 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: puppy is born, from eight weeks on, they're trained. They're 186 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: trained by sixteen months in the house of someone who 187 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: loves the dog. Then they go to get trained at 188 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: two different prisons here in California, and those inmates have 189 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: the dog for a year or a year and a 190 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: half sometimes and then the dog should they graduate and 191 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: successfully be placed with a family. That's the successful run 192 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: from the puppies birth until now. And I have to 193 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: say I would love to do everything that I can 194 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: to let people know about this service more after this 195 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: don't go away. When you get a diagnosis of autism 196 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: for your kid, nobody gives you a book, you know, 197 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: nobody hands you a roadmap. Nobody says this is what 198 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be like, because no one knows, because 199 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: every diagnosis of autism comes with different flavors and different 200 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: accents and and different uh, different things that need attention. 201 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: Yes, and sometimes it hides itself. There's there's moments. I mean, 202 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 3: because of you and because of Clay, I know a 203 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: little bit more about autism. But until then, you get 204 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: this picture in your head what autism means. And I 205 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: have learned that we have no picture in our head. 206 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: Each person is different and you have to just figure 207 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: out what I don't know, If this is about what 208 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: quirks I don't know? 209 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: You know, Yes, it works exactly, yes, And they have 210 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: their own perspective. And so we've been working with UH 211 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: speech pathologists, a very learned woman about pragmatic conversation, because 212 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: when Clay meets someone or is in a new situation, 213 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: they don't always know what to say, and sometimes what 214 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: they say is not traditional neurotypical chit chat. So the 215 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: woman's here teaching us and says, you know, hello, Clay, 216 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: how are you? And Clay responds fine, okay, Well what 217 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: is the you know, the neurotypical response to hi, how 218 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: are you? 219 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: I'm fine? How are you right? 220 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: So the next day we do it every Monday. The 221 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: next Monday, the woman comes and says, first they do 222 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: it with me right. So she'll say, hi. 223 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: Ro how are you? And I'm like, I'm great, how 224 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: are you? Lois? 225 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: And she'll say, well, I had a really great day. 226 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: I had a very interesting lunch. And then she looked 227 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: over at Clay, and Clay goes, you think I care 228 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: about your lunch? 229 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: Right? 230 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: You know, now, listen, Clay is not trying to be mean. 231 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: She's trying to say that in her brain, it does. 232 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: It makes zero. 233 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 2: Sense why she would do that, you know. So finally. 234 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: The woman says, how is your day? How are you today? 235 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: And she said, I'm not good. I don't like being here. 236 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: This is a very boring part of my day. I 237 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: know how to have a conversation and this is just dumb, 238 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, and that the conversation ends right there. It's 239 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: not like and then yeah, you go on. So Clay 240 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: came down and said to me before we started this week, 241 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, I really feel as though you're trying to 242 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: mold me into someone different than who I am. 243 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: Oh wow, right, And I read some of that. 244 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: Yes, I said, you know, I'm really not doing that, honey. 245 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to arm you with basic conversational maps so 246 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: that you can follow them the way other people who 247 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: are not autistic do, right, And their response was, why 248 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: would I want to do that? 249 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: If I'm autistic? 250 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: Why would I want to try to change who I 251 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: am and become just a normal person that's not like 252 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: me at all. 253 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: And I didn't have an answer. 254 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: There is no answer, because it's a great thing that 255 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: they said, yes, and it's deep, and it's it's deep, 256 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: it's very deep, and we felt, all right, we'll speak 257 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: for myself. Was the same about being queer. I didn't, 258 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: you know, it's not comparing its apples to oranges, but 259 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: the same where you know, trim your eyebrows where this? 260 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: That where? 261 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: And I was like, why are you trying to do that? 262 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: I look stupid like that. I look like a very 263 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: ugly drag queen. So I fight my life to be 264 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: who I am. Now add that to someone who is 265 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: already a little different, but in the head they're different. 266 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: They think differently, they hear differently, they see differently, and 267 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: I that's a beautiful thing that Clay said. I don't 268 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: know how you'd answer it. 269 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm very conscious of not trying to take 270 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: away the parts of them that make them unique and 271 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: make them who they are. I am just trying to 272 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: provide enough resources that getting through a normal conversation doesn't 273 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: cause panic, you know, doesn't cause anxiety. And it's funny. 274 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: For a while, Clay had a puppet named Jeremiah and 275 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: when new people would come in, they would put on 276 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: the puppet and go talk to the people through the 277 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: pow right, And it's kind of amazing, right, And so 278 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm in an interesting place trying to figure out how 279 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: to best prepare them for their adult life. Right with 280 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: with a neurotypical society. 281 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: I knew you'd have your hands full because they are 282 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 3: so smart. 283 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: Yes, very very smart and very you know, very deep thinker. 284 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 285 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't always have the answer 286 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: when when the question is why should I have to 287 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: learn to be something that I'm not? 288 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: Now Clay has friends and do they have conversations. 289 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you this. We had a little 290 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: friend come over to meet Kuma, and the whole time 291 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: where the young girl was very into the dog, Clay 292 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: was very into discussing BFDI Battle for Dream Island, her 293 00:17:53,880 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: very favorite video show. And so while young Harp was 294 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: playing with the dog and getting the dog to do 295 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: things and trying to it was almost as though they 296 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: were parallel playing with different like, you know, one was 297 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: in the room with the dog and present with the dog, 298 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: and the other was in their video game, yes, and 299 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: wanting to talk about and discuss their video. 300 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 3: Yes, I've seen Clay do that, and it's like a 301 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: masterclass where yeah, they had two friends over and they 302 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: were watching some video and Clay just knew so much 303 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: about it how to pause and make sure that they 304 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: were getting it, like explaining that character and this voice 305 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: is wrong because they are this and it was amazing, right. 306 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: And the person who voices this character also voices another 307 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: character and they're too similar for me. I wish there 308 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: was a differentiation between the two voices that you know, 309 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, whoa, And you know, it's like when 310 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: they do a deep dive. 311 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: It's a deep dive. Like I always think. 312 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: When I had my TV talk show, we had amazing 313 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: producers who would find out facts about celebrities that people 314 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: didn't know because, you know, celebrity culture is so overwhelmingly everywhere. Yeah, 315 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, and we know so many things about celebrities 316 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: that are redundant, and so when you have an interview 317 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: with someone that you've seen interviewed twenty times, you have 318 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: to come up with something new. And I always think, like, 319 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: what will they be like as an adult? And I 320 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: could totally see them either writing the material for these 321 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: kinds of shows and or just being a researcher, right, 322 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: because if they love the topic, there is no stopping 323 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: their interest. So in terms of Clay, I'm trying to 324 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: figure out where the best school for them, now that 325 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: they're going to be entering middle school, where the best 326 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: school would be And although we haven't really discussed it yet, 327 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, New York and going back to New York 328 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: is definitely at possibility that is on the table. And 329 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: I also feel like they might do better being around 330 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: their siblings, you know, because this world of just mommy 331 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: and me gets small pretty quick. 332 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 3: You know, how's it going with Blake and Teresa there? Well? 333 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: Great, they're here, and you know they're wonderful. Teresa, of course, 334 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: is a special ed teacher, so she understands it in 335 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: ways that some people never can. And you know, there 336 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: were times where Blake would get hurt feelings when Clay 337 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: would say I don't like this present? 338 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah at Christmas? Right. 339 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: So the truth factor, or what is true for Clay, 340 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: is of prominent importance in her mind and her moral makeup. 341 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: So why would she lie? Is the question that she 342 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: brings up to me all they bring up to me 343 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: all the time. 344 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: Why would I lie? 345 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: And I don't like this present. Do you want me 346 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: to lie and say I like this present? 347 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: Right? 348 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes I think that they don't even know me if 349 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: they bought me this present. The president's deeper meaning about 350 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: who they are and whether they are seen and known 351 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: and so, you know, it's a very complicated. 352 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 2: Parenting, yes, journey. 353 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: And I remember how implicated when Blake was young, because 354 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 3: I was complicated too, and you got him through his 355 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 3: things where people would say hello to you and they 356 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 3: would look at him and say I know your mommy, 357 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: and he was like, I don't know. You don't know 358 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: my mommy. Like he would get very angry because he 359 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 3: was very as well. 360 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: Yes, so you don't know my mommy. She just famous. Yeah, exact, 361 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: that's what he would say, she just famous. So it's 362 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: interesting because it's so interlappable but different, right, because Blake 363 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: had auditory processing disorder, and you know there's all overlaps 364 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: with ASD autism spectrum disorder, and and there are overlaps, 365 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: but when you have a diagnosis first and foremost of autism, 366 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: you know, the behavior is different. Yeah, the outlook is different, 367 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: the worldview is different. And I think that the more 368 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: that they are around their siblings, the more they understand 369 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: the family dynamic. You know, since they've been here, we've 370 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: watched some movies. We watched The Flintstones with me. 371 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: In it starring Rosy O'Donnell. 372 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: There you go. 373 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 3: Did they like it? 374 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: Yes, and they laughed and they got it, and you know, 375 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: it was just funny to sit and watch with my 376 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: nearly married, twenty four year old son and my eleven 377 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: year old kiddo. They're different responses to me. Amazing, Yeah, 378 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: it really was amazing. And you know, Blakie's wedding is 379 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: coming up so exciting. Yeah, it's so exciting. It's hard 380 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: for me to believe, you know, my first kiddo wedding 381 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: to do. You know, my first I mean, Chelsea was 382 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: married when she was very young and got divorced, but 383 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: she was not living with us when that occurred, and 384 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: so we didn't have there wasn't a wedding, it was 385 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: they just got married. So this is the first kind 386 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: of big wedding that we're doing for one of the kids, 387 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: and that happens in August, and you know, very excited 388 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: to do that and having them here makes me really 389 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: know how much it's important for me to be around 390 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: them more after this don't go away. When I moved 391 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: here with Clay, it was because we were starting third 392 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: grade and I had just gotten a role on a 393 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: new series called American Jigelow and COVID came and the 394 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: strike came, and it ended up that we only did 395 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: one season, not even a full season. Truthfully, there was 396 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: a lot of chaos on the set and we just 397 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: never really took off. And so for the last two years, 398 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: I haven't been working while I've been here. And now 399 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: as we enter another middle school, enter the middle school years, 400 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure we have the best 401 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: that we can have for what their specific needs are 402 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: in those years. 403 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: Are so important, the middle school years. It's so important. 404 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 3: You have the younger years and you carefully have helped 405 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 3: Clay along. But now the middle school years, I remember 406 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 3: that's when stress really started. 407 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: Yes, and and Clay lives with a lot of stress, 408 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: you know, And any way that we can minimize that, 409 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: anyway that we can find the right school for them 410 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: for now. The school that they're in here did a 411 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: great job for those three years, but it's time. I 412 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: think with the new assessment and evaluation from UCLA about 413 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: the areas of strength and areas of weakness. We're going 414 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: to have to make another plan, and so that's what 415 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: we're in the middle of doing, which is also the 416 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: reason why we, you know, are are done with this 417 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: rendition of Onward, because we need to figure out where 418 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: we're going to be and how we're going to set 419 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: it up, and whether or not we can add this 420 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: element of live feeling, live recording, live live possibly. You know, 421 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: the the thrill of my TV show for me was 422 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: that there was no safety net. That you were on 423 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: that high wire alone for one hour and you had 424 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: to just do the best that you could and know 425 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: that there's another live one the next day. And that's 426 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: what we did live on TV for six years. And 427 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: that's what I'd like to find some sort of hybrid, 428 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: you know. I don't want to get dressed up and 429 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: the hair and makeup and interview celebrities on the talk show. 430 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: It feels like I already did that. 431 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: What can we do now that's innovative and new and 432 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: really fits in with today's digital platforms, you. 433 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 3: Know, and with what's happening. Things happened so fast. My 434 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: frustration also is that there would be things we want 435 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 3: to talk about, but we couldn't really. By the time 436 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 3: we aired it, we were on three new things, like 437 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 3: you know, like. 438 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: I so many things happening in the world, in the 439 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: mid East, in the United States. 440 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: And like the election. Next, Benedict, well, that was a 441 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 3: horrible story. I actually even couldn't call you. I was 442 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 3: so upset. I couldn't imagine. 443 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: I was so upset too. 444 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: I was first of all, that little person looks a 445 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: lot like my little person. 446 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: Yes, that absolutely, I'm getting chills as you say that. 447 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, same haircut, same same little thing. Yea and non 448 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: binary young person sixteen I believe sixteen and was killed, 449 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: murdered in their school by three older class people, people 450 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: who were a couple of years older. And some of 451 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: the reporting of the case, you know, was heartbreaking as well, 452 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: because they. 453 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: They did nothing. Not only did they do nothing, but 454 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 3: they got suspended. Next that finally the teacher broke it up, 455 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: didn't call the ambulance, didn't call help, no idea. Yeah, 456 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 3: how they got home, but then the school suspended. 457 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: Next and what about the other Girlso did that? 458 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: No word on the other girls. And they're looking into 459 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 3: it because they're not sure that the beating is what 460 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: killed next. 461 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, give me a break. I know, the whole thing 462 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: is just so unbelievable. And it's Oklahoma where the governor is. 463 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: I know his last name sounds like shit, but it's 464 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: Governor Kevin Stitt who made it mandatory that the only 465 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: bathroom you could use was the bathroom of your birth gender. 466 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: Is that right? 467 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: Right? 468 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: How you say it? 469 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: Because it's so want to leave them alone, do a WC, 470 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: get a water closet. 471 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: You're so obsessed with people's bodily functions that you teach 472 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 3: this hate this child is It was like Matthew Shepherd 473 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: all over again. 474 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: It really was very horrifying. 475 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it, you know, threw me for a loop too, 476 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: because you know, you always worry about your kid's safety, 477 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: but when you have a exceptionally vulnerable child, it's one hundredfold. 478 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: You know, when you have a disability in the family, 479 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: when someone is is when it's not a fair fight, right, 480 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: they'll even mind. Yeah, they don't even get it. And 481 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: just heartbreaking. But you know, these are all the things 482 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: we eat. We've we've done what we could do, and 483 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: we try to make it, you know, entertaining. We hope 484 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: that you guys have enjoyed it. I'd like to thank 485 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: all of our guests, starting with Sharon Gless, who was 486 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: amazing as a first guest and still one of our 487 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: highest downloaded episodes. The amazing Rory Kennedy with her documentary 488 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: about the volcano, and Jennifer Lewis of the Saint Louis 489 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: Lewis's Dylan Mulvaney, who was fantastic, Brookshields who has her 490 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: own podcast. Margaret Chow, always funny, always an activist, stood 491 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: up and was talking about that horrible murder in the 492 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: school just as we were this morning, making me cry 493 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: with her very poignant and heartfelt words. 494 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: Cheta Rivera, who we lost. 495 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: But so glad I got to have that last conversation 496 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: with her, and you guys got to hear it. The 497 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: amazing Cameron Mannheim, who is a friend and a good 498 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: egg all around. Ricky Lake. Nobody makes me laugh as 499 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: much as Ricky Lake, and nobody makes me look at her. 500 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: I look at Ricky in wonderment because of how she's 501 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: able to live her life. And Stephanie Mills, who I've 502 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: adored since I saw her on Broadway back in nineteen 503 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: ninety something eighty something eighty Something to eight logic who 504 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: I met at a restaurant and he turned out to 505 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: be a friend, and what an amazing story he has. 506 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: The one and only Holland Taylor was fabulous. Bridget Everett 507 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: so wonderful and her show so great. Cyndi Lauper, Billy Porter, 508 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: reality winner who is a national hero if you asked me, 509 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: Belinda Carlisle, thank you for doing our show. Kristin Schenowith, 510 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: doctor Daniel Rosen, Sheila Nevans one of the smartest women 511 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: I've ever met in my life. 512 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 3: Is she nominated for an Academy Award or friend? 513 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: Sheula? I believe she is? 514 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, rightly so it's about banning books. 515 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: Yes, yep, Sheila Evans the most awarded woman in showbiz 516 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: history and rightly so, rightly so. Marcy Simmons, Samantha Bee, 517 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Faulkner, my chef and one hell of a person, 518 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: Maria Bamford, Lena Waith, Alexander Vinman. 519 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: I loved having him on. 520 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: Kathy Griffin, one of the highest rated ones we've had period. 521 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: Kathy Griffin, Lyle Menendez. That was a very heavy and 522 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: interesting view of a person who's maybe you hadn't thought 523 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: about in a long time, and hopefully you revisited that 524 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: case and all the time that has passed and and 525 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: maybe have a new way. 526 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: To view it. 527 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: Judy Gold who is hysterical and funny and kind. Amy 528 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: Nelson whose family was attacked by Jeff Bezos and Amazon 529 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: from May one now and they want and I'm so 530 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:29,479 Speaker 1: happy for them. Sophie Valentine Hawkins, who's a fantastic person. 531 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: The reason we know each other, Yes, we know each 532 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: other because of Sophie Valentine Hawkins. There you go, Angela Tucker, 533 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: Charles Bush, Cheryl Jon Dunie, Alexandra Pelosi, Alison Joseph's, Murray Hill, 534 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: Annoyed Lemon, Sam Harris, my Buddy, what a great singer 535 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: he is, What a great writer, Jimmy Smagoola. We had 536 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: questions from listeners. Derek Downey Junior, my squirrel friend, Kayleie 537 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 1: Schmidt who helped me with the with the dog service 538 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: dog and coaches the autism parents who are going through it. Kayleie, 539 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: thank you so much. And my favorite Linda Richmond. That 540 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: was just last week, and that is a total of 541 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: all the guests that we had on this show. And 542 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: I just want to thank everyone, I really do. I 543 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: want to thank iHeartRadio, I want to thank everybody who listened, 544 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: and I want to let you know that we're not 545 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: going anywhere. We'll be around somewhere. Look for us on 546 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: TikTok at Rosie and thank you very much for all 547 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: the support here at Onward with Rosie, O'Donnell, and you 548 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: take care of yourself and I will be seeing you 549 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: on the Tiki Talk. 550 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: Laura, I love you. 551 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 3: I love you, Lyra. 552 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for all the help. You were amazing and 553 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: there it is. 554 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. We're out of here. 555 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: Peace out.