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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another episode of the Season with Peter Scheger. Beyond excited

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Speaker 1: for this week's guest. We're having Dave Canalis, who is

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Speaker 1: the new head coach of the Carolina Panthers. I've gotten

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Speaker 1: to know Dave a little bit over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, but I'd be lying if I said I

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Speaker 1: was tight with him back when he was a quality

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Speaker 1: control coach in Sea Adelie knew. I met AZUSA Pacific

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Speaker 1: kind of got on my radar the last few years

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Speaker 1: when he took a bigger role with the Seahawks. That

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Speaker 1: was in Tampa Bay now is in Carolina. I think

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Speaker 1: this is a very different interview than we've done in

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Speaker 1: that Dave really took the long road in the NFL

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Speaker 1: and wore a lot of hats and then has had

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Speaker 1: sudden success in the last couple of years. Once given

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Speaker 1: these opportunities, we're gonna bring Dave on in a bit.

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Speaker 1: He's taken over the worst team in football, and his

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Speaker 1: job is to instill confidence into those guys and to

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Speaker 1: somehow build back up a quarterback who was everybody'sa's unanimous

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Speaker 1: first overall pick, and Bryce Young and then c J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud had one of the greatest rookie seasons ever. Well,

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Speaker 1: Bryce had one of the worst rookie seasons ever. And

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Speaker 1: now it's Canalis's job to come in and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: almost a Robin Williams to the Matt Damon and Goodwill

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Speaker 1: hunting like it's not your fault, you know, like bringing

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Speaker 1: him in. You hear the laughter of Aaron wan Kaufman,

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Speaker 1: my producer, Aaron A couple of things I wanted to

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Speaker 1: hit on before we get to Dave one. Can I

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Speaker 1: talk about JJ Reddick for a second.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Are you thinking you know your next step

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Speaker 2: is going to be a coach in an LA team?

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Speaker 1: Now, I didn't. I didn't play basketball, so I don't

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Speaker 1: think it ever coached. I never played, I never coached

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Speaker 1: just talked to a lot of coaches, but I do

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Speaker 1: kind of like JJ's edge and JJ using the.

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Speaker 2: F bomb of times multiple drops.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me go back in time a little bit

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Speaker 1: here with JJ Reddick. Obviously, played at Duke, that you

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Speaker 1: because he was the kid from Duke. And he followed

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Speaker 1: here's JJ Reddick, the sharpshooter from Virginia, plays for Duke,

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Speaker 1: and he has this great career at Duke and gets

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Speaker 1: as like a great NBA veteran player to have on

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Speaker 1: your team, but never the superstar. Right, fifteen years in

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Speaker 1: the league. About four years ago, I'm at the ferry

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Speaker 1: in Dumbo. If you're not from Brooklyn, here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn has all these different parts and Dumbo is down

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Speaker 1: guess that's what it is, Dumbo, right, And there's a

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Speaker 1: You're on the open sea in New York and you're

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Speaker 1: do that to go to different parts of New York City.

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Speaker 1: I have a four year old son at a time.

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Speaker 1: and it's JJ Reddick. And I go up to him

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Speaker 1: because here I am big time sports personality. Maybe he

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Speaker 1: I am. That's fine. I introduced myself. He introduced himself.

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Speaker 1: We get on the ferry, we talk a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Our kids are you know, mixing it or whatever? And

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Speaker 1: don't think about it. Whatever. A few years later, my

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for already in my life. And someone tells

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Speaker 1: me that, hey, JJ Reddick just started this thing called

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Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Basketball Academy, where his kids are obviously playing,

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Speaker 1: Now you're rolling your eyes at home and saying, are

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Speaker 1: My son Melon has been in this Brooklyn basketball academy

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Speaker 1: but I will tell you he has just improved so

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick's coaching. He's not there. It's his coach is

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Speaker 1: that he's employed. JJ did coach one of the teams

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Speaker 1: one time against my son. My son had a big

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Speaker 1: I think this is someone who wants to serve. This

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Speaker 1: excited for JJ Reddick as an NBA head coach, Lebron

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Speaker 1: I have great great expectations and great hope, and I've

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet on Reddick in this one. And the

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know, maybe I'm overlooking something, but like

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Speaker 1: from firsthand experience, I think, analyzes markets and says, here's

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Speaker 1: get the most of them. Aaron, we interview coaches all

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Speaker 1: the time on this show. That's our primary deal. Like

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Speaker 1: for you to see that JJ Redick, you know, hit

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you say JJ Reddick is a podcaster,

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Speaker 2: you're you're throwing out his illustrious career as a player,

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna he's He's going to get

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Speaker 2: a ton of attention. He's coaching the Lakers, He's got

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Speaker 1: Aaron Stave Canal as head coach of the Carolina Painters.

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Speaker 3: What's up? Peter? Thanks man, thanks for having me here.

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. I don't really know what's going

424
00:22:13,666 --> 00:22:17,346
Speaker 3: to happen. And then it was a couple of weeks

425
00:22:17,386 --> 00:22:21,106
Speaker 3: later that I got the phone call and like the

426
00:22:21,346 --> 00:22:25,946
Speaker 3: kind of the the holy crap microcosm moment was I was.

427
00:22:26,386 --> 00:22:30,306
Speaker 3: I was sitting in the the war room, if you will,

428
00:22:30,426 --> 00:22:35,626
Speaker 3: like the recruiting room with Lane Kiffin at Ojeron.

429
00:22:36,426 --> 00:22:36,626
Speaker 1: Yep.

430
00:22:37,586 --> 00:22:42,386
Speaker 3: We're watching junior college film from a year and a

431
00:22:42,426 --> 00:22:46,226
Speaker 3: half ago. Okay, so that's and it's Al Camedo College

432
00:22:46,226 --> 00:22:50,346
Speaker 3: against College of the Canyons. We're watching a defensive linement

433
00:22:50,346 --> 00:22:53,666
Speaker 3: from College at the Canyons playoff game, and he had

434
00:22:53,706 --> 00:22:56,906
Speaker 3: like a two year highlight. So I'm sitting there with them,

435
00:22:57,346 --> 00:22:59,586
Speaker 3: We're watching an Al Camedo play College of the Canyons.

436
00:22:59,586 --> 00:23:02,186
Speaker 3: I can see me on the sideline. You can see.

437
00:23:02,066 --> 00:23:05,266
Speaker 1: Yourself on the video at El Camino, Yes, with.

438
00:23:05,266 --> 00:23:10,666
Speaker 3: The visor, you know, Khaki shorts in a polo and like, which,

439
00:23:10,706 --> 00:23:13,906
Speaker 3: by the way, they should bring back into coaching, like

440
00:23:14,146 --> 00:23:19,706
Speaker 3: the look, it's so comfortable and then anyway, so then

441
00:23:19,866 --> 00:23:22,186
Speaker 3: so I'm sitting there losing that and like literally two

442
00:23:22,266 --> 00:23:25,626
Speaker 3: days before I'd been offered to go to the Seattle

443
00:23:25,626 --> 00:23:29,426
Speaker 3: Seahawks's quality control. So really it's just like this amazing.

444
00:23:29,066 --> 00:23:32,586
Speaker 1: You're watching yourself coaching community or not community, but junior

445
00:23:32,666 --> 00:23:34,986
Speaker 1: college at a level that no one would ever watch

446
00:23:35,026 --> 00:23:40,146
Speaker 1: on television. And then the official Seattle Seahawks phone line

447
00:23:40,226 --> 00:23:42,746
Speaker 1: calls and you're like, this has been two years or

448
00:23:43,146 --> 00:23:45,106
Speaker 1: what an amazing twenty four months?

449
00:23:45,466 --> 00:23:47,226
Speaker 3: Yes, you said that a lot better than I did,

450
00:23:47,306 --> 00:23:50,306
Speaker 3: but just kind of all it's just a microcosm. And

451
00:23:50,346 --> 00:23:52,906
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there just like wow, like just really just

452
00:23:52,986 --> 00:23:57,786
Speaker 3: humbled and floored with like this is all just circumstantially,

453
00:23:57,986 --> 00:24:00,026
Speaker 3: you know. For me, of course, I'm a I'm a

454
00:24:00,066 --> 00:24:02,066
Speaker 3: man of faith, and I just was like, wow, look

455
00:24:02,066 --> 00:24:05,506
Speaker 3: what God did in this short order. And I had

456
00:24:05,546 --> 00:24:07,506
Speaker 3: like literally no thing to do with it, Like there

457
00:24:07,546 --> 00:24:11,546
Speaker 3: wasn't I was like the best you know, junior college

458
00:24:11,626 --> 00:24:14,026
Speaker 3: quarterbacks coach, or like I was killing it, you know,

459
00:24:14,066 --> 00:24:16,066
Speaker 3: setting up cones and bags and s see. You know,

460
00:24:16,106 --> 00:24:18,746
Speaker 3: it's just it was just being in the right place

461
00:24:18,866 --> 00:24:22,826
Speaker 3: the right time, and then just being responsible with the

462
00:24:22,866 --> 00:24:26,306
Speaker 3: moment and the opportunities to work hard, to treat people

463
00:24:26,306 --> 00:24:29,426
Speaker 3: well and to connect and is like just you know,

464
00:24:29,466 --> 00:24:30,106
Speaker 3: it's just crazy.

465
00:24:30,266 --> 00:24:34,146
Speaker 1: So well, you're cutting your own attribute short a little

466
00:24:34,186 --> 00:24:36,706
Speaker 1: bit there. You're also everyone who's ever worked with you says,

467
00:24:36,786 --> 00:24:40,786
Speaker 1: just an amazing guy to have in the room, juice, energy,

468
00:24:40,866 --> 00:24:43,706
Speaker 1: and obviously Pete identified that in you because he could

469
00:24:43,746 --> 00:24:46,626
Speaker 1: have taken thirty people from his past and he chose

470
00:24:46,666 --> 00:24:48,666
Speaker 1: you as one of many. Now you get to Seattle

471
00:24:48,706 --> 00:24:52,666
Speaker 1: and people forget this. Those first I think that first

472
00:24:52,706 --> 00:24:55,746
Speaker 1: training camp in Seattle, you guys had like two hundred

473
00:24:55,746 --> 00:24:58,106
Speaker 1: people walk through the door. It was like a tryout.

474
00:24:58,146 --> 00:25:00,426
Speaker 1: I remember covering it from my you know, for Fox

475
00:25:00,426 --> 00:25:03,746
Speaker 1: sports dot Com. And it being like there's just bodies

476
00:25:03,786 --> 00:25:06,506
Speaker 1: after bodies, and like Pete Carroll is running this like

477
00:25:06,546 --> 00:25:08,226
Speaker 1: it's almost like a high school team, like who wants

478
00:25:08,266 --> 00:25:10,266
Speaker 1: to make this? They've got their veterans, but it was

479
00:25:10,306 --> 00:25:12,986
Speaker 1: an open door And I kind of love that approach

480
00:25:13,026 --> 00:25:17,106
Speaker 1: to rebuilding and starting a new era of an NFL team.

481
00:25:17,666 --> 00:25:20,426
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the I love the approach that Pete

482
00:25:20,506 --> 00:25:24,066
Speaker 3: brought of. Just like you know, you're you're either competing

483
00:25:24,146 --> 00:25:26,226
Speaker 3: or you're not, you know, And he showed up to

484
00:25:26,266 --> 00:25:29,026
Speaker 3: a roster that he was not fired up about and

485
00:25:29,106 --> 00:25:32,786
Speaker 3: it's just like, okay, well we know we have these guys.

486
00:25:33,266 --> 00:25:35,706
Speaker 3: And right after that it it, you know, the depth

487
00:25:35,826 --> 00:25:39,026
Speaker 3: chart falls off pretty quickly. We might as well just

488
00:25:39,066 --> 00:25:41,626
Speaker 3: see more people. We might as well bring more guys in,

489
00:25:42,306 --> 00:25:44,866
Speaker 3: you know. And and that I think it was like

490
00:25:44,866 --> 00:25:46,906
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty transactions, like.

491
00:25:47,386 --> 00:25:48,786
Speaker 1: That's what it was. I think it was eighty eight

492
00:25:48,786 --> 00:25:51,946
Speaker 1: bodies or something came through like like new bodies at

493
00:25:52,026 --> 00:25:52,746
Speaker 1: top of the ninety.

494
00:25:52,946 --> 00:25:55,906
Speaker 3: Like it was nuts and it's cool. And I think

495
00:25:55,906 --> 00:25:58,946
Speaker 3: he was just challenging, challenging the roster to see like okay,

496
00:25:58,986 --> 00:26:01,226
Speaker 3: well we know these other guys. What about some of

497
00:26:01,746 --> 00:26:03,666
Speaker 3: you know, let's just keep getting our eyes on him.

498
00:26:03,706 --> 00:26:05,226
Speaker 3: So I remember that was crazy.

499
00:26:05,666 --> 00:26:07,786
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the gig early on in Seattle was on

500
00:26:07,826 --> 00:26:09,426
Speaker 1: the strength side, or is this on the coaching side.

501
00:26:09,466 --> 00:26:11,786
Speaker 1: You've now become one of the quarterbacks coaches and you're

502
00:26:11,786 --> 00:26:12,546
Speaker 1: already in that role.

503
00:26:13,186 --> 00:26:15,626
Speaker 3: It was quality control and I really still was not.

504
00:26:15,866 --> 00:26:18,746
Speaker 3: It was more of a production type of yeah, wearing

505
00:26:18,786 --> 00:26:24,546
Speaker 3: a lot of hats. Yeah, just playbook, video, calendar, schedules,

506
00:26:24,706 --> 00:26:26,466
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. You know, I really was.

507
00:26:27,186 --> 00:26:31,706
Speaker 3: I really was so overwhelmed with all those things. I

508
00:26:31,706 --> 00:26:33,466
Speaker 3: didn't really have a lot of time to be coaching

509
00:26:33,906 --> 00:26:37,506
Speaker 3: for about the first year. Yeah, you know. Yeah.

510
00:26:37,586 --> 00:26:40,066
Speaker 1: Now as you embark on this first year as a

511
00:26:40,106 --> 00:26:42,426
Speaker 1: head coach with the Carolina Panthers team that finished with

512
00:26:42,466 --> 00:26:44,466
Speaker 1: the worst record in the NFL, do you try to

513
00:26:44,506 --> 00:26:47,186
Speaker 1: tap into those memories from fifteen years ago just getting

514
00:26:47,226 --> 00:26:50,786
Speaker 1: to Seattle and maybe how Pete established culture and said

515
00:26:50,826 --> 00:26:53,266
Speaker 1: here that the here are the ground rules, here's what

516
00:26:53,306 --> 00:26:54,866
Speaker 1: we're going to do because this is a new era

517
00:26:54,986 --> 00:26:58,706
Speaker 1: and we're going to build it this way. Yeah.

518
00:26:58,746 --> 00:27:02,266
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think the heart, the heart and the mindset

519
00:27:02,306 --> 00:27:04,186
Speaker 3: that I come in that I take from Pete and

520
00:27:04,226 --> 00:27:10,266
Speaker 3: from those early years is Number one is I didn't

521
00:27:10,306 --> 00:27:14,746
Speaker 3: get here because the roster was established. I didn't get

522
00:27:14,746 --> 00:27:18,786
Speaker 3: here because of excellence and all that typically are getting

523
00:27:18,786 --> 00:27:20,866
Speaker 3: your first job, because there were things that need attention

524
00:27:20,946 --> 00:27:22,786
Speaker 3: and need to be addressed. And so I think that

525
00:27:23,066 --> 00:27:26,906
Speaker 3: the openness to see who those players are going to be,

526
00:27:27,906 --> 00:27:31,986
Speaker 3: to see, you know, to really just be willing to

527
00:27:31,986 --> 00:27:35,906
Speaker 3: to try things, to find our niche as, find our

528
00:27:35,906 --> 00:27:38,346
Speaker 3: personality as a team, but also to find the players,

529
00:27:38,386 --> 00:27:41,226
Speaker 3: you know, like we need to be active, we need

530
00:27:41,266 --> 00:27:43,626
Speaker 3: to have our eyes and ears to the ground for

531
00:27:43,746 --> 00:27:47,946
Speaker 3: players that can help us. And and so you know,

532
00:27:47,986 --> 00:27:50,706
Speaker 3: I have an eagerness to kind of see I'm I'm

533
00:27:50,786 --> 00:27:52,906
Speaker 3: That's one of my excitements about coming back is like

534
00:27:52,946 --> 00:27:54,586
Speaker 3: I wonder who it's going to be, Like, who are

535
00:27:54,626 --> 00:27:57,106
Speaker 3: those guys? Yeah, that we that we have in our building.

536
00:27:58,306 --> 00:28:00,786
Speaker 3: If we can just put a good football product out

537
00:28:00,786 --> 00:28:03,826
Speaker 3: there on a platform for them to perform, the stars

538
00:28:03,866 --> 00:28:05,826
Speaker 3: will show up. But then who are those other guys?

539
00:28:06,106 --> 00:28:10,946
Speaker 3: Because I just live in the possibilities type of world.

540
00:28:11,066 --> 00:28:14,906
Speaker 3: My world is about possibilities. And I know there were

541
00:28:14,986 --> 00:28:18,266
Speaker 3: late round draft pick, free agent, rookie free agents, veteran

542
00:28:18,346 --> 00:28:21,426
Speaker 3: free agents, who were like, I'm now ready to do

543
00:28:21,466 --> 00:28:24,986
Speaker 3: this thing that made an impact further than anything anyone

544
00:28:25,066 --> 00:28:27,786
Speaker 3: could ever have imagined for their careers in Seattle. I

545
00:28:27,786 --> 00:28:29,746
Speaker 3: watched it happened in Tampa last year too, and so

546
00:28:30,466 --> 00:28:34,666
Speaker 3: I get excited about the untold stories going into this year.

547
00:28:35,306 --> 00:28:37,586
Speaker 1: Give me a Seattle guy that you know you saw

548
00:28:37,666 --> 00:28:40,026
Speaker 1: walk through the door, maybe not as heralded, and took

549
00:28:40,066 --> 00:28:42,546
Speaker 1: to coaching and made a career for him, stuff that

550
00:28:42,546 --> 00:28:44,266
Speaker 1: maybe walking in the door not everyone anticipated.

551
00:28:46,066 --> 00:28:51,066
Speaker 3: Yeah right off the bat, you know Doug Baldwin, Yeah,

552
00:28:51,906 --> 00:28:55,986
Speaker 3: Jermaine Curse, who really had he had a fantastic junior

553
00:28:56,106 --> 00:28:59,746
Speaker 3: year and then really had some struggles to senior year,

554
00:28:59,826 --> 00:29:04,266
Speaker 3: had some drops and people were down on him, and

555
00:29:04,266 --> 00:29:07,626
Speaker 3: and I just see, like the guy, the the competitor,

556
00:29:07,666 --> 00:29:12,186
Speaker 3: he was, the determination he had, and an environment and

557
00:29:12,226 --> 00:29:14,986
Speaker 3: I credit Pete for this, but an environment that that

558
00:29:15,186 --> 00:29:18,266
Speaker 3: said it didn't say, hey, just take a number and

559
00:29:18,306 --> 00:29:21,466
Speaker 3: get in line. It said I'm not in your way.

560
00:29:21,626 --> 00:29:23,706
Speaker 3: Who wants to play, who wants who wants to make

561
00:29:24,026 --> 00:29:27,706
Speaker 3: for this exactly? And so that's just kind of sometimes

562
00:29:27,706 --> 00:29:30,866
Speaker 3: it's just that permission that a player needs. I think

563
00:29:30,906 --> 00:29:35,546
Speaker 3: of David Moore, who we actually have yeah, in in

564
00:29:35,546 --> 00:29:39,866
Speaker 3: in Charlotte. He was a he was a seventh round pick,

565
00:29:40,146 --> 00:29:42,426
Speaker 3: you know, and we drafted a guy in the fourth round.

566
00:29:42,426 --> 00:29:44,746
Speaker 3: But because of our model of like, guys, just show

567
00:29:44,826 --> 00:29:47,026
Speaker 3: us who you are, we'll figure out who goes where

568
00:29:47,826 --> 00:29:52,026
Speaker 3: and who plays, there's a bunch of them. Man, Gary

569
00:29:52,026 --> 00:29:54,346
Speaker 3: Gilliam was a tight end we turned into a tackle

570
00:29:54,386 --> 00:29:55,746
Speaker 3: because it was.

571
00:29:55,746 --> 00:30:01,106
Speaker 1: Very good, you know, George, Right, that was one.

572
00:30:00,946 --> 00:30:06,866
Speaker 3: Where George George another you know Western basketball back round,

573
00:30:07,106 --> 00:30:10,706
Speaker 3: you know, ends up you still playing tackle, you know,

574
00:30:10,746 --> 00:30:15,706
Speaker 3: in the league and started last year some But yeah,

575
00:30:15,746 --> 00:30:18,866
Speaker 3: I can I can rattle up another probably thirty or

576
00:30:18,906 --> 00:30:19,586
Speaker 3: forty guys.

577
00:30:19,866 --> 00:30:22,786
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you spend time as Yeah, then Russell

578
00:30:22,826 --> 00:30:25,906
Speaker 1: Wilson gets dropped in your laps as a third round pick.

579
00:30:25,986 --> 00:30:27,946
Speaker 1: Take us through that summer because I remember the late

580
00:30:27,986 --> 00:30:31,026
Speaker 1: Trevares Jackson was a great player and Matt Flynn was

581
00:30:31,066 --> 00:30:34,266
Speaker 1: the big free agent signing. And it's not not common

582
00:30:34,306 --> 00:30:37,066
Speaker 1: that a coach and a GM would say, hey, man,

583
00:30:37,146 --> 00:30:40,026
Speaker 1: the best man win at quarterback, especially after the GM penned,

584
00:30:40,546 --> 00:30:42,226
Speaker 1: you know, Matt Flynn to a one of the biggest

585
00:30:42,226 --> 00:30:44,946
Speaker 1: deals a free agent quarterback got that offseason.

586
00:30:45,506 --> 00:30:48,346
Speaker 3: Yeah, record. Let's go record straight. First, John Schneider was

587
00:30:48,386 --> 00:30:50,666
Speaker 3: the one most fired about Russell. The rest of us

588
00:30:50,746 --> 00:30:54,026
Speaker 3: were like the rest of us. He grew on us

589
00:30:55,186 --> 00:30:58,226
Speaker 3: through throughout the process, the spring process, leading up to

590
00:30:58,266 --> 00:31:01,146
Speaker 3: the draft. But I gotta be honest, when we drafted

591
00:31:01,226 --> 00:31:03,826
Speaker 3: him in the third round, like there wasn't this explosion

592
00:31:03,866 --> 00:31:08,346
Speaker 3: of excitement in the building. It was like, oh, okay, yeah,

593
00:31:08,386 --> 00:31:11,106
Speaker 3: well remember him, I know him in college. Yeah, he's

594
00:31:11,106 --> 00:31:13,186
Speaker 3: pretty good. He's pretty good. And the guy's like he's

595
00:31:13,666 --> 00:31:15,506
Speaker 3: he competes his ass off, you know, like we knew,

596
00:31:15,546 --> 00:31:17,906
Speaker 3: like we knew he had all the makeup. But I

597
00:31:17,906 --> 00:31:21,106
Speaker 3: think I think John really had the vision for who

598
00:31:21,146 --> 00:31:23,706
Speaker 3: he was. And then Pete kind of warmed up. And

599
00:31:23,746 --> 00:31:27,426
Speaker 3: then because of who Pete is what he believed the

600
00:31:27,466 --> 00:31:29,466
Speaker 3: more he got to know the guy, he's like, Okay,

601
00:31:29,466 --> 00:31:30,466
Speaker 3: this is a special guy.

602
00:31:30,786 --> 00:31:31,146
Speaker 1: Yeah.

603
00:31:31,186 --> 00:31:35,546
Speaker 3: And but like the rest of us were like, oh okay,

604
00:31:36,866 --> 00:31:39,546
Speaker 3: and a cool draft story. So I so my wife's

605
00:31:39,826 --> 00:31:43,506
Speaker 3: nine months no, no, no, not nine months. She was

606
00:31:43,226 --> 00:31:48,746
Speaker 3: she was she was twenty eight. She was twenty eight. Yeah,

607
00:31:49,066 --> 00:31:51,306
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, no, no, thirty five. He's thirty five

608
00:31:51,306 --> 00:31:54,106
Speaker 3: weeks pregnant. Okay, she's he's right, then, yeah, she's but

609
00:31:54,226 --> 00:31:57,146
Speaker 3: she's pretty early anyway. So we have like an install

610
00:31:57,226 --> 00:31:59,866
Speaker 3: that morning. You know, it's the second day of the draft.

611
00:31:59,946 --> 00:32:02,666
Speaker 3: So she calls me from the gym. She's like, I

612
00:32:02,706 --> 00:32:04,786
Speaker 3: don't feel right. So I go home, take her to

613
00:32:04,786 --> 00:32:08,106
Speaker 3: the hospital and get her all checked in, settled in.

614
00:32:08,146 --> 00:32:11,146
Speaker 3: They're like, hey, it's gonna be a while. You're probably

615
00:32:11,146 --> 00:32:13,946
Speaker 3: not gonna have this this baby today, but you're gonna

616
00:32:13,946 --> 00:32:15,746
Speaker 3: have to be on bed rest. So I'm like, okay,

617
00:32:15,746 --> 00:32:17,586
Speaker 3: she's all settled in. I go back to the office.

618
00:32:17,586 --> 00:32:22,226
Speaker 3: Of course, rookie Dad, rookie dad. But so I go

619
00:32:22,306 --> 00:32:25,066
Speaker 3: back to the office. I'm sitting there and then the

620
00:32:25,186 --> 00:32:29,266
Speaker 3: rounds are going. We draft Russell Wilson. It's like, oh, okay, great,

621
00:32:29,306 --> 00:32:31,346
Speaker 3: we got a quarterback. You know, see what happens with

622
00:32:31,386 --> 00:32:34,226
Speaker 3: this whole story. And then and then I end up

623
00:32:34,266 --> 00:32:36,186
Speaker 3: going back to the hospital just hang out with her.

624
00:32:36,226 --> 00:32:39,586
Speaker 3: And as I get there, they're like, just kidding, your

625
00:32:39,586 --> 00:32:44,146
Speaker 3: babies showing up today. So it's so so two men

626
00:32:44,266 --> 00:32:50,186
Speaker 3: that will forever change my life. April twenty seventh, See

627
00:32:50,186 --> 00:32:52,986
Speaker 3: what year was that, That would have been twenty twenty twelve. Yeah,

628
00:32:53,066 --> 00:32:57,346
Speaker 3: April twenty seven, twenty twelve, Russell Wilson Benjamin Kanal has

629
00:32:57,386 --> 00:32:59,706
Speaker 3: two men who would like forever changed my life. Love

630
00:32:59,746 --> 00:33:02,466
Speaker 3: this who I love just like all on one day.

631
00:33:02,466 --> 00:33:05,706
Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable and it's so good, dude, I love that.

632
00:33:05,866 --> 00:33:09,346
Speaker 3: And you'll for Yeah, you'll forever be link You're in bed,

633
00:33:09,386 --> 00:33:10,106
Speaker 3: will forever.

634
00:33:09,866 --> 00:33:11,946
Speaker 1: Be linked to Uh to Russell, I'm sure he's wearing

635
00:33:11,946 --> 00:33:13,346
Speaker 1: the jersey no matter what team he's on.

636
00:33:13,866 --> 00:33:16,506
Speaker 3: Oh loves and didn't know it at the time, right like,

637
00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:21,666
Speaker 3: but so to that point in a nutshell, Russell comes

638
00:33:21,706 --> 00:33:25,866
Speaker 3: in and I won't I'll never forget this. So Pete

639
00:33:25,986 --> 00:33:29,506
Speaker 3: tells a Tavars like, the reps are going to go

640
00:33:29,586 --> 00:33:32,866
Speaker 3: to Matt Flynn and Russell. We've seen you, We've seen

641
00:33:32,906 --> 00:33:36,826
Speaker 3: you for a year, we've seen your career in Minnesota.

642
00:33:37,146 --> 00:33:40,346
Speaker 3: We know what you can do, and he's under contract

643
00:33:40,346 --> 00:33:42,306
Speaker 3: and all that's like preseason, you're not going to play

644
00:33:42,386 --> 00:33:46,626
Speaker 3: much training camp. You're going to get the third reps

645
00:33:46,626 --> 00:33:49,866
Speaker 3: because we got to see Matt and Russell kind of

646
00:33:50,466 --> 00:33:53,866
Speaker 3: see what they can do. And I'll and really the

647
00:33:53,946 --> 00:33:58,026
Speaker 3: thing that separated Russ from the beginning, which guys kind

648
00:33:58,026 --> 00:34:00,026
Speaker 3: of rolled their eyes at it first, but he knew

649
00:34:00,026 --> 00:34:01,506
Speaker 3: what he wanted to do, and then he would he

650
00:34:01,546 --> 00:34:03,586
Speaker 3: would talk to the guys like, you know, it wasn't

651
00:34:03,666 --> 00:34:05,666
Speaker 3: twenty two, you know, he was like twenty four or

652
00:34:05,706 --> 00:34:08,866
Speaker 3: twenty five something, and he'd be like, hey, this backside

653
00:34:08,866 --> 00:34:10,946
Speaker 3: of this route, Sydney Rice, you know, be ready for

654
00:34:10,986 --> 00:34:12,146
Speaker 3: this if they rotate away.

655
00:34:12,146 --> 00:34:14,506
Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm a five year veteran, like bro,

656
00:34:14,666 --> 00:34:15,386
Speaker 1: Like he tell me.

657
00:34:15,746 --> 00:34:18,746
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm like and there's some eye rolling and

658
00:34:18,786 --> 00:34:21,386
Speaker 3: like and then he go out there and rip it

659
00:34:21,586 --> 00:34:25,146
Speaker 3: and he meant it, and he would be he was

660
00:34:25,506 --> 00:34:27,986
Speaker 3: driving himself. He's so hard on himself. He's just out

661
00:34:28,066 --> 00:34:30,386
Speaker 3: working people. He had a mindset for where he was

662
00:34:30,426 --> 00:34:33,626
Speaker 3: going and he was telling us, I'm here and I'm

663
00:34:33,706 --> 00:34:35,986
Speaker 3: serious about this. I'm not going to just take a number.

664
00:34:36,146 --> 00:34:38,106
Speaker 3: I'm not going to just fall into where people think

665
00:34:38,146 --> 00:34:41,506
Speaker 3: I should. There's no should here. I got a plan.

666
00:34:41,626 --> 00:34:43,226
Speaker 3: I'm going this way he wants to come. And so

667
00:34:43,426 --> 00:34:48,106
Speaker 3: it was pretty clear the person, you know, that of

668
00:34:48,146 --> 00:34:49,626
Speaker 3: how he was driven. And then it all kind of

669
00:34:49,666 --> 00:34:55,386
Speaker 3: came together preseason going to the Uh going to the

670
00:34:55,466 --> 00:35:01,266
Speaker 3: Chiefs and Matt had like elbow tendonitis Okay, So we

671
00:35:01,386 --> 00:35:05,106
Speaker 3: started rust that day and the ball moved. We scored

672
00:35:05,146 --> 00:35:09,266
Speaker 3: points again. It was like the you know, it was

673
00:35:09,266 --> 00:35:11,946
Speaker 3: like the third third week in a row that that happened,

674
00:35:11,986 --> 00:35:13,786
Speaker 3: and he just kept every time he go in, the

675
00:35:13,786 --> 00:35:16,146
Speaker 3: ball would move. We put points up on the board

676
00:35:16,146 --> 00:35:17,666
Speaker 3: and it was like is this couldn't this be real?

677
00:35:18,026 --> 00:35:21,106
Speaker 3: So but it was really fun. It was a really

678
00:35:21,186 --> 00:35:23,546
Speaker 3: it was a real challenge. We dove full, We took

679
00:35:23,586 --> 00:35:25,826
Speaker 3: all the notes and the stats and it was a

680
00:35:25,866 --> 00:35:26,586
Speaker 3: really cool time.

681
00:35:27,106 --> 00:35:29,906
Speaker 1: Yeah, in an amazing era with Russell Wilson, obviously, all

682
00:35:29,946 --> 00:35:32,226
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowls, the All Pros, the playoff appearances. You

683
00:35:32,226 --> 00:35:35,786
Speaker 1: guys win a Super Bowl, Yeah, compete in another, and

684
00:35:35,826 --> 00:35:41,506
Speaker 1: then Russell leaves and here's Geno Smith as a quarterback,

685
00:35:41,546 --> 00:35:43,026
Speaker 1: a guy who's been around the league, like you were

686
00:35:43,026 --> 00:35:45,146
Speaker 1: talking about Tavares Jackson. We kind of know what Geno

687
00:35:45,186 --> 00:35:48,946
Speaker 1: Smith is, and yet he joins the Seattle Seahawks and

688
00:35:49,026 --> 00:35:54,706
Speaker 1: has this incredible backup run and then amazing, amazing year

689
00:35:54,786 --> 00:35:56,266
Speaker 1: under you as a starter. What do you remember of

690
00:35:56,946 --> 00:35:59,266
Speaker 1: the Geno Smith? You know time where he gets the

691
00:36:00,146 --> 00:36:01,786
Speaker 1: torch and it's it's his time to take it.

692
00:36:02,866 --> 00:36:05,386
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cool. It was a It was a

693
00:36:05,426 --> 00:36:09,386
Speaker 3: celebration of a couple of years of conversations, work study.

694
00:36:10,906 --> 00:36:15,306
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer really kind of starting that that deal with

695
00:36:15,386 --> 00:36:21,226
Speaker 3: Gino and like really cleaning Gino up fundamentally. We just

696
00:36:21,266 --> 00:36:24,946
Speaker 3: for fun before we left, we watched training camp, you know,

697
00:36:25,026 --> 00:36:27,826
Speaker 3: coming into training camp, and like there were some little

698
00:36:27,866 --> 00:36:31,706
Speaker 3: things that he cleaned up from a technical standpoint, but like,

699
00:36:32,706 --> 00:36:35,706
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy was like seventy eight percent completion

700
00:36:35,826 --> 00:36:38,506
Speaker 3: in his first camp with the Seahawks, you know, backup,

701
00:36:38,866 --> 00:36:44,186
Speaker 3: you know there there, like it's so so he yeah,

702
00:36:44,186 --> 00:36:46,466
Speaker 3: and he so he clearly was a veteran. He knew

703
00:36:46,466 --> 00:36:48,746
Speaker 3: where the ball was supposed to go. No one throws

704
00:36:48,746 --> 00:36:51,986
Speaker 3: a prettier ball than Gino Smith. Just it spins tight,

705
00:36:52,266 --> 00:36:55,506
Speaker 3: he's accurate, like he's got the right amount of zip,

706
00:36:55,506 --> 00:36:58,546
Speaker 3: but he's got touch, like he's so all those things

707
00:36:58,546 --> 00:37:03,066
Speaker 3: were there and it was just but we had Russ right,

708
00:37:03,266 --> 00:37:05,466
Speaker 3: So so you won't even you don't even take your

709
00:37:05,466 --> 00:37:11,346
Speaker 3: brain there immediately. But so then just just the celebration

710
00:37:11,506 --> 00:37:15,186
Speaker 3: of a couple of years of work, of conversations of

711
00:37:15,226 --> 00:37:19,146
Speaker 3: Geno saying I know I still got it once I

712
00:37:19,186 --> 00:37:21,346
Speaker 3: get a chance. This is how I'm gonna do it,

713
00:37:21,426 --> 00:37:23,506
Speaker 3: you know, like he he was like forward thinking with

714
00:37:23,626 --> 00:37:27,946
Speaker 3: his with his words. He was super He had a

715
00:37:27,946 --> 00:37:30,186
Speaker 3: lot of beliefs still in his own ability and his talent,

716
00:37:30,346 --> 00:37:33,386
Speaker 3: and so so as I come along, you know, really

717
00:37:33,386 --> 00:37:37,066
Speaker 3: it was just about like for me, I I was

718
00:37:37,106 --> 00:37:40,066
Speaker 3: there kind of through the whole process and then once

719
00:37:40,306 --> 00:37:42,506
Speaker 3: once I get you know, I'm just there to just

720
00:37:42,586 --> 00:37:47,146
Speaker 3: like maintain and reinforce you're you're a you're a badass.

721
00:37:47,746 --> 00:37:52,466
Speaker 3: You're a bad Yeah, you belong here, you know, like

722
00:37:53,346 --> 00:37:55,666
Speaker 3: keep your head up. Things bad things are going to happen.

723
00:37:56,266 --> 00:37:59,546
Speaker 3: But look, look you're leading everybody. They're looking to you. Now,

724
00:38:00,106 --> 00:38:01,826
Speaker 3: let's you know, just for me, it was just from

725
00:38:01,866 --> 00:38:07,706
Speaker 3: a personal personal standpoint, like big big picture life philosophy,

726
00:38:07,706 --> 00:38:09,586
Speaker 3: How does football fit into this? How do I fit

727
00:38:09,626 --> 00:38:12,226
Speaker 3: in as a leader, as a veteran guy, you know

728
00:38:12,786 --> 00:38:15,146
Speaker 3: a lot of those things, and then just polishing the

729
00:38:15,226 --> 00:38:18,306
Speaker 3: stuff that he was already working on those last two years.

730
00:38:18,306 --> 00:38:21,626
Speaker 3: So just given Shoddy a lot of credit for for

731
00:38:21,666 --> 00:38:23,866
Speaker 3: really helping Gino, helping me to just kind of get

732
00:38:23,866 --> 00:38:26,466
Speaker 3: a plan together, and then for us to just be

733
00:38:26,506 --> 00:38:28,346
Speaker 3: there to celebrate it together. It was really cool.

734
00:38:36,106 --> 00:38:37,546
Speaker 1: I mean, how rare is it that anybody in this

735
00:38:37,626 --> 00:38:40,186
Speaker 1: coaching life can see their kids go to the same schools,

736
00:38:41,026 --> 00:38:43,146
Speaker 1: have the friends, and not have to uproot their lives

737
00:38:43,146 --> 00:38:45,546
Speaker 1: every other year. But you had that opportunity, and you

738
00:38:45,586 --> 00:38:47,986
Speaker 1: were there in Seattle and you were doing that, and

739
00:38:48,026 --> 00:38:52,466
Speaker 1: then Tampa calls and you left, obviously for an amazing opportunity.

740
00:38:52,546 --> 00:38:55,106
Speaker 1: Can you take us through that part of your life.

741
00:38:55,306 --> 00:39:01,346
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, just you know they the coolest part about

742
00:39:01,346 --> 00:39:06,786
Speaker 3: the whole thing was it didn't come along by really

743
00:39:06,866 --> 00:39:11,066
Speaker 3: reaching out and striving for trying to like create a job.

744
00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:15,786
Speaker 3: You know, it was really just and thankfully for Pete

745
00:39:15,866 --> 00:39:18,586
Speaker 3: and for a bunch of great players, it was really

746
00:39:18,626 --> 00:39:22,066
Speaker 3: a natural process. You know. Just I bounced around. I

747
00:39:22,106 --> 00:39:25,026
Speaker 3: coached receivers, I coached quarterbacks. I was past game coordinator,

748
00:39:25,066 --> 00:39:27,386
Speaker 3: so I got to step out of the position room

749
00:39:27,706 --> 00:39:30,306
Speaker 3: and kind of look at watch the offensive coordinator do

750
00:39:30,466 --> 00:39:33,906
Speaker 3: his thing. And so I'm just collecting all these lessons

751
00:39:33,946 --> 00:39:36,546
Speaker 3: watching Pete, you know, like in those years where I

752
00:39:36,586 --> 00:39:40,346
Speaker 3: was past game coordinator. When you're not coaching a position directly,

753
00:39:41,346 --> 00:39:43,986
Speaker 3: you get to help a lot if you can take

754
00:39:44,026 --> 00:39:46,866
Speaker 3: that kind of mindset, just like help serve make extra

755
00:39:46,906 --> 00:39:48,346
Speaker 3: cutups so how can I help? How can I do

756
00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:50,026
Speaker 3: these things? But then I can also take a step

757
00:39:50,026 --> 00:39:52,306
Speaker 3: back and say, look at Pete and the decisions he makes.

758
00:39:52,826 --> 00:39:55,186
Speaker 3: Look out he schedules his day. Look how the coordinator

759
00:39:55,186 --> 00:39:58,146
Speaker 3: does these different rhythms. So like, I don't think there

760
00:39:58,146 --> 00:40:01,706
Speaker 3: could have been a guy more ready for his first

761
00:40:01,706 --> 00:40:03,426
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator job than me.

762
00:40:03,506 --> 00:40:05,706
Speaker 1: And and last year you've been in and that was

763
00:40:05,706 --> 00:40:09,146
Speaker 1: almost not one of these guys that maybe you are saying, well,

764
00:40:09,146 --> 00:40:11,266
Speaker 1: why not me? Why have I not been? Were you

765
00:40:11,266 --> 00:40:13,586
Speaker 1: one of those? Did you start wondering after five, seven,

766
00:40:13,706 --> 00:40:16,066
Speaker 1: six or whatever it is? Yeah?

767
00:40:16,146 --> 00:40:19,226
Speaker 3: I did, Actually I did, and I realized it didn't

768
00:40:19,266 --> 00:40:21,626
Speaker 3: get me anywhere, you know, And so I was either

769
00:40:21,666 --> 00:40:25,866
Speaker 3: gonna like, agent up, let's push this thing. Let's just

770
00:40:25,906 --> 00:40:29,226
Speaker 3: go get a job, you know, or I can say, man,

771
00:40:29,266 --> 00:40:31,786
Speaker 3: I've got this sweet opportunity here, let's raise our kids,

772
00:40:31,866 --> 00:40:34,746
Speaker 3: let's be here kind of see the NFL evolve over

773
00:40:34,786 --> 00:40:38,146
Speaker 3: the thirteen years from one spot, you know, with one lens,

774
00:40:38,186 --> 00:40:41,506
Speaker 3: with Pete Carroll when forever philosophy lens, you know, like,

775
00:40:42,946 --> 00:40:44,746
Speaker 3: so that was that was really special, you know, But

776
00:40:44,786 --> 00:40:47,106
Speaker 3: I just I try to go there, and I just

777
00:40:47,146 --> 00:40:49,426
Speaker 3: felt like it was really like contrived, and I was

778
00:40:49,426 --> 00:40:51,466
Speaker 3: trying to force something, and I was like, Okay, hold on,

779
00:40:51,666 --> 00:40:55,106
Speaker 3: let's just let's just be here, and like even just

780
00:40:55,146 --> 00:40:57,626
Speaker 3: to the even the summer before I got the Tampa job,

781
00:40:58,066 --> 00:41:00,146
Speaker 3: we're actually right up here where I'm at right now

782
00:41:00,226 --> 00:41:04,586
Speaker 3: in uh In uh White Salmon, Washington, and we're we're

783
00:41:04,666 --> 00:41:08,066
Speaker 3: we're sitting we actually hiked Mount Adams, the beautiful, beautiful

784
00:41:08,146 --> 00:41:10,226
Speaker 3: hike here, snow capped year round, and we're at the

785
00:41:10,226 --> 00:41:11,706
Speaker 3: top and my wife and I were sitting up there

786
00:41:11,746 --> 00:41:14,906
Speaker 3: and we're like, Okay, we're home. We're never going anywhere.

787
00:41:15,186 --> 00:41:18,786
Speaker 1: This is a content feeling of like, hey, this is

788
00:41:18,826 --> 00:41:22,786
Speaker 1: the lot and guess what. We're blessed. It's amazing and

789
00:41:22,826 --> 00:41:26,066
Speaker 1: we're happy here. And then within twelve months the call

790
00:41:26,146 --> 00:41:29,426
Speaker 1: from Tampa comes. Who makes that call? Is it? Is

791
00:41:29,466 --> 00:41:31,706
Speaker 1: it Jason Light? Is it Todd Bowles? How's it all

792
00:41:31,706 --> 00:41:32,106
Speaker 1: go down?

793
00:41:32,786 --> 00:41:36,866
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was, it was Todd. And then it started

794
00:41:36,906 --> 00:41:39,066
Speaker 3: off as a zoom and then it turned into an

795
00:41:39,066 --> 00:41:44,586
Speaker 3: in person interview and I spent probably four or five

796
00:41:44,626 --> 00:41:48,906
Speaker 3: hours with Todd just kind of going through all the

797
00:41:48,906 --> 00:41:51,906
Speaker 3: different things that you would need to organize and talk

798
00:41:51,946 --> 00:41:56,306
Speaker 3: about from an offensive standpoint, I was like his I

799
00:41:56,306 --> 00:41:59,386
Speaker 3: want to say I was his thirteenth or fourteenth offensive coordinator,

800
00:42:00,946 --> 00:42:04,226
Speaker 3: but the interview interview, for real, I was like interview

801
00:42:04,346 --> 00:42:07,586
Speaker 3: number thirteen or fourteen. So there's a good and a

802
00:42:07,666 --> 00:42:10,546
Speaker 3: bad to that, right. The good part is hopefully like

803
00:42:10,626 --> 00:42:13,426
Speaker 3: he's kind of like worn out. Maybe I can like bang, you.

804
00:42:13,346 --> 00:42:14,826
Speaker 1: Know, just yeah, especially with your juice.

805
00:42:14,866 --> 00:42:16,826
Speaker 3: Yeah, just trying to wake him up a little bit

806
00:42:16,866 --> 00:42:19,866
Speaker 3: here and then. And then the downside of it was

807
00:42:20,026 --> 00:42:24,066
Speaker 3: like I could tell he was like completely gassed with

808
00:42:24,186 --> 00:42:27,186
Speaker 3: the whole process and just like man like pick out,

809
00:42:27,466 --> 00:42:28,906
Speaker 3: how many more of these do we have? You know?

810
00:42:28,946 --> 00:42:32,186
Speaker 3: But what if thorough process to just like you know,

811
00:42:32,506 --> 00:42:36,786
Speaker 3: talk to everybody and just accumulate it. But so anyway,

812
00:42:36,866 --> 00:42:41,106
Speaker 3: it was we had a great time. The philosophies. I

813
00:42:41,106 --> 00:42:44,186
Speaker 3: think what I learned now, you know, just over the

814
00:42:44,266 --> 00:42:46,186
Speaker 3: last couple of years talking to a couple of different

815
00:42:46,306 --> 00:42:50,586
Speaker 3: coaches is just the person the personalities are different, what

816
00:42:50,626 --> 00:42:51,786
Speaker 3: they're after is the same.

817
00:42:53,666 --> 00:42:56,786
Speaker 1: What a great phrase, the personality that what they're all

818
00:42:56,826 --> 00:42:58,866
Speaker 1: after is the same, Like we all want to win.

819
00:42:59,506 --> 00:43:01,986
Speaker 3: They're after the same thing. It's like the principles of

820
00:43:02,666 --> 00:43:07,226
Speaker 3: take care of the ball minimize explosives on defense, play

821
00:43:07,226 --> 00:43:11,066
Speaker 3: hard toughness, like all the same principles, just how you

822
00:43:11,466 --> 00:43:14,346
Speaker 3: how you bring it about and what you know, what

823
00:43:14,546 --> 00:43:17,786
Speaker 3: environment you create to get those principles across. I guess

824
00:43:17,826 --> 00:43:20,866
Speaker 3: just a different but but I could tell coming out

825
00:43:20,866 --> 00:43:24,866
Speaker 3: of the interview that the principles aligned, and hopefully I

826
00:43:24,906 --> 00:43:27,426
Speaker 3: was able to show him like this may be my

827
00:43:27,466 --> 00:43:31,066
Speaker 3: first job that I'm interviewing for, but I've been I've

828
00:43:31,106 --> 00:43:33,466
Speaker 3: been waiting for this for a long time. And so

829
00:43:34,986 --> 00:43:37,386
Speaker 3: and then that's, you know, kind of how this whole

830
00:43:37,386 --> 00:43:38,426
Speaker 3: thing has gone pretty quickly.

831
00:43:38,506 --> 00:43:41,346
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, and I got to say you got

832
00:43:41,386 --> 00:43:44,066
Speaker 1: You probably joined in January. I would imagine early February

833
00:43:44,266 --> 00:43:48,226
Speaker 1: that Tampa job. They they're in the post Brady mode

834
00:43:48,226 --> 00:43:50,106
Speaker 1: where it's like this, like wait and see what's Brady

835
00:43:50,146 --> 00:43:53,866
Speaker 1: gonna do. No one expected anything from the Buccaneers a

836
00:43:53,946 --> 00:43:56,106
Speaker 1: year ago, especially on the offensive side of the ball,

837
00:43:56,226 --> 00:43:59,506
Speaker 1: and you get another cool project. He talked about Geno Smith,

838
00:43:59,546 --> 00:44:03,106
Speaker 1: but here comes a Heisman Trophy winner who has taken

839
00:44:03,146 --> 00:44:05,066
Speaker 1: the league by storm. Was one of the featured guys

840
00:44:05,106 --> 00:44:08,186
Speaker 1: in the NFL one hundred camp and what many thought

841
00:44:08,226 --> 00:44:10,426
Speaker 1: was his last stop. Baker Mayfield walks in the door,

842
00:44:11,866 --> 00:44:14,106
Speaker 1: talk about that union and have the two of you

843
00:44:14,146 --> 00:44:14,706
Speaker 1: guys jailed.

844
00:44:16,026 --> 00:44:18,586
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so two years in a row. It's

845
00:44:18,626 --> 00:44:22,466
Speaker 3: a full on quarterback competition. So it was Jane and

846
00:44:22,546 --> 00:44:26,266
Speaker 3: Drew Locke and then it was Baker and Kyle Trask,

847
00:44:27,146 --> 00:44:30,506
Speaker 3: and I knew it was going to be so important

848
00:44:30,866 --> 00:44:35,626
Speaker 3: for Baker to earn that job, to win that job,

849
00:44:37,826 --> 00:44:41,386
Speaker 3: and I think immediately what I noticed about him coming

850
00:44:41,426 --> 00:44:45,706
Speaker 3: in was this like humility, and it was I didn't

851
00:44:45,746 --> 00:44:49,026
Speaker 3: know him from before, I had never met him, and

852
00:44:50,866 --> 00:44:53,146
Speaker 3: you know, I just saw some of the ups and

853
00:44:53,186 --> 00:44:56,426
Speaker 3: downs of his career in the NFL and college and

854
00:44:56,506 --> 00:44:59,226
Speaker 3: kind of saw this this personality, you know, and I

855
00:44:59,266 --> 00:45:03,546
Speaker 3: didn't really know what to expect, you know, And so

856
00:45:03,626 --> 00:45:06,186
Speaker 3: as we started talking, I just felt this like huge

857
00:45:06,546 --> 00:45:10,706
Speaker 3: hunger and this humility of like like I'll do whatever

858
00:45:10,746 --> 00:45:13,746
Speaker 3: I need to do, I'll learn whatever I need to

859
00:45:13,826 --> 00:45:16,986
Speaker 3: learn for this opportunity. And it was this really high

860
00:45:17,066 --> 00:45:23,266
Speaker 3: regard for the opportunity to be there. And so it

861
00:45:23,346 --> 00:45:25,026
Speaker 3: was really cool for he and I to just kind

862
00:45:25,026 --> 00:45:27,866
Speaker 3: of sit down early in the process and just go, yeah,

863
00:45:27,866 --> 00:45:30,506
Speaker 3: me too, Like we just kind of like, isn't this great?

864
00:45:31,026 --> 00:45:32,586
Speaker 3: Isn't this great what we get to do here? Like

865
00:45:32,626 --> 00:45:35,706
Speaker 3: we just shoot, man, let's just let's let's get let's

866
00:45:35,706 --> 00:45:37,786
Speaker 3: get the basics down to good football. Let's just have

867
00:45:37,866 --> 00:45:41,026
Speaker 3: a blast doing it. And that's really what happened.

868
00:45:41,946 --> 00:45:44,106
Speaker 1: I love that. And you guys have this incredible run,

869
00:45:44,146 --> 00:45:49,786
Speaker 1: you win a playoff game. Head coaching opportunity? Was that

870
00:45:49,866 --> 00:45:52,186
Speaker 1: in your I mean even when you're with Pete and

871
00:45:52,226 --> 00:45:54,306
Speaker 1: you're watching him and even when you take this up

872
00:45:54,306 --> 00:45:55,746
Speaker 1: it's a coordinator job, and you're like, look if we

873
00:45:55,786 --> 00:46:00,146
Speaker 1: have a good seat Panthers. They also interviewed about fourteen

874
00:46:00,146 --> 00:46:03,786
Speaker 1: people for this head coaching job, and hey, what you

875
00:46:03,826 --> 00:46:06,826
Speaker 1: do with Zoom, with David Tepper and whoever else? And

876
00:46:07,186 --> 00:46:08,786
Speaker 1: what's your thoughts when you get that call?

877
00:46:10,186 --> 00:46:13,786
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean floored, you know, like but but also

878
00:46:13,986 --> 00:46:18,226
Speaker 3: like I wasn't surprised. I thought, look at the opportunity,

879
00:46:18,746 --> 00:46:22,146
Speaker 3: you know, with especially with Baker and especially with Gino.

880
00:46:22,506 --> 00:46:25,906
Speaker 3: Was it was like I could that wasn't my what

881
00:46:26,066 --> 00:46:29,626
Speaker 3: was driving me, but I could see how the contrast

882
00:46:29,706 --> 00:46:33,666
Speaker 3: of the expectation and then the performance. Yeah, I knew,

883
00:46:33,666 --> 00:46:36,626
Speaker 3: like nobody expected anything out of Gina. Well, when we

884
00:46:36,666 --> 00:46:39,546
Speaker 3: get him playing well, that's going to create some noise.

885
00:46:39,866 --> 00:46:43,666
Speaker 3: And then Baker Baker comes in here and everyone's like, ah, yeah, yeah,

886
00:46:43,906 --> 00:46:46,266
Speaker 3: you know it's Baker Mayfield whatever. We've seen it, and

887
00:46:46,266 --> 00:46:49,506
Speaker 3: it's like right. And then when when the when the

888
00:46:49,546 --> 00:46:53,906
Speaker 3: product exceeds expectation, I knew that's just gonna naturally grab attention.

889
00:46:54,186 --> 00:46:59,546
Speaker 3: Tampa Post, Tom Brady all that, like low expectation, three

890
00:46:59,546 --> 00:47:02,146
Speaker 3: to five wins, people are just like throwing stuff out

891
00:47:02,146 --> 00:47:04,786
Speaker 3: there like nobody expects anything from them. So I just knew,

892
00:47:04,826 --> 00:47:08,386
Speaker 3: like this is a set up up that when we

893
00:47:08,546 --> 00:47:11,146
Speaker 3: do have success, it's going to create it's going to

894
00:47:11,226 --> 00:47:13,666
Speaker 3: cost some some noise, it's going to create some attention.

895
00:47:14,386 --> 00:47:16,706
Speaker 3: Just be ready, you know, be ready and make sure

896
00:47:16,746 --> 00:47:19,386
Speaker 3: I have my ducks in a row and so that

897
00:47:19,426 --> 00:47:21,506
Speaker 3: if I do get those phone calls at some point,

898
00:47:21,626 --> 00:47:26,306
Speaker 3: I'm ready. I have my stuff organized and so like

899
00:47:26,506 --> 00:47:31,026
Speaker 3: super like not taken, not taken by surprise on the situation,

900
00:47:31,146 --> 00:47:34,386
Speaker 3: but also just like I wasn't just focusing on that

901
00:47:34,426 --> 00:47:37,186
Speaker 3: because it's not like you know, you're on a you're

902
00:47:37,186 --> 00:47:39,786
Speaker 3: on a championship team, and it's like people are after

903
00:47:39,906 --> 00:47:42,346
Speaker 3: you as a coordinator, is like nobody knows who I

904
00:47:42,386 --> 00:47:43,346
Speaker 3: am Yeah pretty.

905
00:47:43,106 --> 00:47:44,266
Speaker 1: Much, you know sou.

906
00:47:46,386 --> 00:47:48,186
Speaker 3: But that was and that was fun too, because just

907
00:47:48,226 --> 00:47:51,106
Speaker 3: here we go, just another challenge, you know. Here's so

908
00:47:51,226 --> 00:47:55,066
Speaker 3: it's like Gino's story, Baker story, Panther story. It's like,

909
00:47:55,226 --> 00:47:59,786
Speaker 3: here's just another great opportunity for a group of guys

910
00:48:00,626 --> 00:48:04,466
Speaker 3: and women to come together and say, why not us,

911
00:48:04,906 --> 00:48:07,506
Speaker 3: you know, let's just let's just play good football. Let's

912
00:48:07,546 --> 00:48:09,626
Speaker 3: just see what happens and see where it takes us.

913
00:48:10,066 --> 00:48:13,066
Speaker 1: So now you're what is it. It's June right now, you're

914
00:48:13,066 --> 00:48:16,826
Speaker 1: about five months into this thing. Why not the Panthers

915
00:48:16,866 --> 00:48:18,946
Speaker 1: take us through the Panthers and what you've seen so

916
00:48:19,106 --> 00:48:21,706
Speaker 1: far and how the Dave canal is there has begun.

917
00:48:22,706 --> 00:48:28,666
Speaker 3: Yeah, a great core group of veteran players with a

918
00:48:28,906 --> 00:48:33,746
Speaker 3: super high football character. I don't know them all really

919
00:48:33,786 --> 00:48:36,346
Speaker 3: closely on a personal level, but I say football character

920
00:48:36,426 --> 00:48:39,546
Speaker 3: because they're the types of guys that you want when

921
00:48:39,546 --> 00:48:43,266
Speaker 3: they're in the building. They treat each other with respect,

922
00:48:43,626 --> 00:48:46,226
Speaker 3: with love and respect, they treat they treat everyone in

923
00:48:46,266 --> 00:48:48,746
Speaker 3: the building well. They work their tails off in the

924
00:48:48,786 --> 00:48:52,026
Speaker 3: weight room, like they really go for it on the

925
00:48:52,066 --> 00:48:54,866
Speaker 3: football field. Like, so there's you know, it's Shaq Thompson.

926
00:48:54,986 --> 00:48:56,826
Speaker 3: You know, it's Derek Brown, who's still pretty young, but

927
00:48:56,866 --> 00:49:02,666
Speaker 3: he's got some years, Chuba Hubbard, Adam Felen, Andy Dalton, Taylor,

928
00:49:02,706 --> 00:49:07,386
Speaker 3: moten Our right tackle, Josie Jewel we got from Denver,

929
00:49:08,506 --> 00:49:13,666
Speaker 3: Jordan Fuller, Nick Scott, Xavier Woods.

930
00:49:13,706 --> 00:49:16,306
Speaker 1: Like there's there when around the league.

931
00:49:16,786 --> 00:49:22,186
Speaker 3: Yes, there's so many veteran players with high high football

932
00:49:22,266 --> 00:49:27,906
Speaker 3: character that that's the locker room culture is fantastic. Great,

933
00:49:28,066 --> 00:49:31,346
Speaker 3: it's that part is established. And then you combine that

934
00:49:31,426 --> 00:49:36,066
Speaker 3: with young talent, some veteran talent. You bring in guys

935
00:49:36,106 --> 00:49:43,786
Speaker 3: like Jadavion Clowney, Robert Hunt, Damian Lewis, Dane Jackson, you know,

936
00:49:43,906 --> 00:49:46,386
Speaker 3: some of the safeties that talked about. So and then

937
00:49:46,466 --> 00:49:49,106
Speaker 3: the draft, a couple of the early draft picks, you know,

938
00:49:50,346 --> 00:49:56,746
Speaker 3: Xavier Legete, Jonathan Brooks, Trevin Wallace, you know, jade Jatavian Sanders.

939
00:49:57,306 --> 00:50:02,466
Speaker 3: So I see a great combination of some experience, high

940
00:50:02,506 --> 00:50:07,546
Speaker 3: football character, some talent in spots. Now there's a reason,

941
00:50:07,986 --> 00:50:10,386
Speaker 3: there's a reason that we were two and fifteen and

942
00:50:11,306 --> 00:50:14,426
Speaker 3: we have to continue to like bring more talent into

943
00:50:14,466 --> 00:50:16,506
Speaker 3: our roster. So you fill out the depth of it,

944
00:50:17,026 --> 00:50:19,306
Speaker 3: you know, and the great teams that I've been on

945
00:50:19,346 --> 00:50:23,186
Speaker 3: in Seattle over the years, up and down, the great

946
00:50:23,226 --> 00:50:26,186
Speaker 3: ones you had depth, you know, and so I think

947
00:50:26,346 --> 00:50:29,306
Speaker 3: that's that's really where we are is can we establish

948
00:50:29,466 --> 00:50:33,946
Speaker 3: can we establish our starters? Can we develop depth? And

949
00:50:34,346 --> 00:50:35,186
Speaker 3: we got ways to go?

950
00:50:35,626 --> 00:50:39,346
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, what's your message to them? Because like

951
00:50:40,066 --> 00:50:43,186
Speaker 1: Sean Payton last year, whether you love him or not,

952
00:50:43,506 --> 00:50:44,746
Speaker 1: you know, I worked with him at Fox, so I

953
00:50:44,746 --> 00:50:46,226
Speaker 1: have a relationship with him. He came in there and

954
00:50:46,226 --> 00:50:48,466
Speaker 1: he dropped a couple bombs in the media to try

955
00:50:48,466 --> 00:50:51,066
Speaker 1: to inspire his guys, you know, talking about the previous

956
00:50:51,106 --> 00:50:54,346
Speaker 1: coaching staff that was a downtrodden group when he got there,

957
00:50:54,466 --> 00:50:56,946
Speaker 1: and he was trying to light a fire. What do

958
00:50:56,986 --> 00:50:58,946
Speaker 1: you do to a squad that was two and fifteens

959
00:50:58,946 --> 00:51:01,266
Speaker 1: looking at the locker room and saying are we?

960
00:51:02,306 --> 00:51:02,826
Speaker 3: What are we?

961
00:51:03,106 --> 00:51:04,626
Speaker 1: What do you do as a new coach? How do

962
00:51:04,666 --> 00:51:06,146
Speaker 1: you inspire them with words?

963
00:51:07,546 --> 00:51:09,826
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think to put it simply, I just said,

964
00:51:09,906 --> 00:51:13,866
Speaker 3: we just need to get our football right. And the

965
00:51:13,986 --> 00:51:17,746
Speaker 3: comment there was what I was trying to do. What

966
00:51:17,866 --> 00:51:20,346
Speaker 3: I'm still trying to do with that is like, forget

967
00:51:20,386 --> 00:51:24,506
Speaker 3: about the side stories, guys, Like if we can just

968
00:51:24,506 --> 00:51:30,506
Speaker 3: play good football. The side stories, the headlines will right themselves,

969
00:51:30,706 --> 00:51:33,106
Speaker 3: but can we just get our football right? And that

970
00:51:33,186 --> 00:51:37,186
Speaker 3: really was just a reflection on like, it wasn't the

971
00:51:37,226 --> 00:51:42,386
Speaker 3: greatest brand of offensive football it was. There were things

972
00:51:42,506 --> 00:51:45,746
Speaker 3: up front, there were things schematically that we needed to

973
00:51:45,786 --> 00:51:51,226
Speaker 3: work on, and that wasn't to NFL standard and certainly

974
00:51:51,266 --> 00:51:56,346
Speaker 3: not to Carolina Panthers twenty twenty four standard. The defensive

975
00:51:56,346 --> 00:52:00,066
Speaker 3: side of the football was excellent, and there was still

976
00:52:00,586 --> 00:52:03,866
Speaker 3: things to improve on. There's still nuances to grow through

977
00:52:05,266 --> 00:52:08,706
Speaker 3: special teams with solid So it's just like, if we

978
00:52:08,746 --> 00:52:11,626
Speaker 3: can just get all three phases up to snuff and

979
00:52:11,626 --> 00:52:14,466
Speaker 3: get them get us all the same playing field, then

980
00:52:14,506 --> 00:52:17,506
Speaker 3: we will compete and we will be able to and

981
00:52:17,546 --> 00:52:20,346
Speaker 3: our talent will be able to be showcased better and

982
00:52:20,426 --> 00:52:22,866
Speaker 3: we can just have a foundation. And so and I

983
00:52:22,906 --> 00:52:24,386
Speaker 3: was like, can we do that? Can we take care

984
00:52:24,386 --> 00:52:24,946
Speaker 3: of the football?

985
00:52:25,186 --> 00:52:25,386
Speaker 1: Yes?

986
00:52:25,466 --> 00:52:26,946
Speaker 3: Can we try to take can we try to take

987
00:52:26,986 --> 00:52:30,226
Speaker 3: it away on defense? And can we just execute the

988
00:52:30,306 --> 00:52:33,906
Speaker 3: fun most fundamental part of our technique and our scheme.

989
00:52:34,346 --> 00:52:37,066
Speaker 3: If we can do that, guys, one game at a time,

990
00:52:38,546 --> 00:52:39,826
Speaker 3: then we give ourselves a chance.

991
00:52:40,066 --> 00:52:41,866
Speaker 1: Are you excited? I mean, are you loving this.

992
00:52:42,746 --> 00:52:46,666
Speaker 3: I'm so excited. And I'm excited because I can see

993
00:52:46,706 --> 00:52:49,906
Speaker 3: the challenge to your point of I can see the

994
00:52:50,026 --> 00:52:53,186
Speaker 3: challenge of going through the hard times and saying we're

995
00:52:53,226 --> 00:52:56,826
Speaker 3: going to be consistent on our messaging. Guys, We're going somewhere.

996
00:52:56,906 --> 00:53:00,146
Speaker 3: Let's trust it. Let's fix this, Let's fix these simple things.

997
00:53:00,146 --> 00:53:03,186
Speaker 3: I'll show it to you. I'm excited about just giving that,

998
00:53:03,626 --> 00:53:08,026
Speaker 3: giving them that consistency in messaging and and really pairing

999
00:53:08,066 --> 00:53:11,786
Speaker 3: that with the character the team that we have to go. Okay, everyone,

1000
00:53:12,146 --> 00:53:14,666
Speaker 3: let's take a deep breath, let's exhale here, let's just

1001
00:53:14,666 --> 00:53:18,746
Speaker 3: take the next step. So I'm really excited for that.

1002
00:53:19,306 --> 00:53:21,466
Speaker 1: And you've done all this work with these great quarterbacks

1003
00:53:21,666 --> 00:53:24,066
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't say that reclamation projects because you were

1004
00:53:24,066 --> 00:53:26,786
Speaker 1: saying yourself, do you know what's ready? And Baker had it.

1005
00:53:27,466 --> 00:53:32,386
Speaker 1: What's the message with Bryce Young who had a very look.

1006
00:53:35,546 --> 00:53:38,066
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you know. The biggest part with Bryce

1007
00:53:38,186 --> 00:53:42,786
Speaker 3: is for me, at least, this is my first year

1008
00:53:42,826 --> 00:53:47,226
Speaker 3: with Bryce Young. I get him after having sixteen games

1009
00:53:47,306 --> 00:53:51,786
Speaker 3: under his belt. So I think that's the coolest part

1010
00:53:51,786 --> 00:53:54,346
Speaker 3: for me is rarely do you ever get your young

1011
00:53:54,546 --> 00:53:58,626
Speaker 3: quarterback with and a little experience, you know what I mean.

1012
00:53:58,706 --> 00:54:01,466
Speaker 3: So so for me, I know he's not a rookie.

1013
00:54:01,626 --> 00:54:05,146
Speaker 3: I know that he's a rookie to me, Like, we're

1014
00:54:05,186 --> 00:54:08,186
Speaker 3: both here together for the first time. So we start

1015
00:54:08,226 --> 00:54:11,506
Speaker 3: this whole system over, we put in this offense together

1016
00:54:11,786 --> 00:54:14,586
Speaker 3: for the first time. And he's got he's he's had

1017
00:54:14,626 --> 00:54:18,266
Speaker 3: some live reps, he's had a bunch of live experiences

1018
00:54:18,266 --> 00:54:22,066
Speaker 3: that I can draw from, and like, I'm just excited

1019
00:54:22,106 --> 00:54:25,306
Speaker 3: about the talent. It's it's everything that we saw from

1020
00:54:25,666 --> 00:54:27,906
Speaker 3: you know, over a year ago when we're doing the

1021
00:54:27,986 --> 00:54:31,946
Speaker 3: draft evaluation. It's all there. It's all still there. So

1022
00:54:31,986 --> 00:54:35,226
Speaker 3: it's just like, wait, the guy's athletic, he can get

1023
00:54:35,266 --> 00:54:38,786
Speaker 3: the ball out quickly, he's a leader, he communicates well,

1024
00:54:38,826 --> 00:54:41,386
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, he's got everything we need. Okay, Bryce,

1025
00:54:41,986 --> 00:54:45,586
Speaker 3: just do your part, do your one eleventh, Just do

1026
00:54:45,706 --> 00:54:48,706
Speaker 3: your quarterback part. You're the point guard, okay, and then

1027
00:54:48,786 --> 00:54:51,426
Speaker 3: we'll let everybody else do all theirs and we can

1028
00:54:51,986 --> 00:54:55,826
Speaker 3: dissolve the pressure of like you got to leave, you

1029
00:54:55,866 --> 00:54:57,666
Speaker 3: got to do this and all that. Totally you're the

1030
00:54:57,706 --> 00:55:00,146
Speaker 3: one now. It's just not true. I just I just

1031
00:55:00,586 --> 00:55:02,986
Speaker 3: I have not seen that model of football work and

1032
00:55:03,106 --> 00:55:06,106
Speaker 3: win in Seattle. We didn't put it all in Russell's plate.

1033
00:55:06,266 --> 00:55:08,306
Speaker 3: So so that's not the model that we're going to

1034
00:55:08,346 --> 00:55:10,666
Speaker 3: try to create in Carolina. It's like, no, just do

1035
00:55:10,706 --> 00:55:12,506
Speaker 3: your part. It takes a whole team.

1036
00:55:12,626 --> 00:55:17,866
Speaker 1: So my my, you know, armchair quarterback outside. Looking in

1037
00:55:18,786 --> 00:55:21,506
Speaker 1: free agency, you guys built up that line. You got

1038
00:55:21,546 --> 00:55:24,506
Speaker 1: great protection inside, which I thought was important. And then

1039
00:55:24,586 --> 00:55:28,186
Speaker 1: the draft with with Legette and Brooks and Sanders who

1040
00:55:28,226 --> 00:55:30,706
Speaker 1: you mentioned, it's got some more skill position player, Like

1041
00:55:30,866 --> 00:55:33,346
Speaker 1: the offense should be significantly better just based on that.

1042
00:55:33,346 --> 00:55:36,586
Speaker 3: Alone, Yeah, I would agree, you know, and it all

1043
00:55:36,626 --> 00:55:39,306
Speaker 3: starts with the run game, and so the having having

1044
00:55:39,386 --> 00:55:42,466
Speaker 3: Robert and Damien in there because I love our backfield,

1045
00:55:42,506 --> 00:55:45,506
Speaker 3: and then adding Jonathan Brooks just you know, an opportunity

1046
00:55:45,546 --> 00:55:49,346
Speaker 3: came to us with a really talented guy. And and

1047
00:55:49,386 --> 00:55:55,226
Speaker 3: then uh just again depth, you know, talent, just keep

1048
00:55:55,266 --> 00:55:59,146
Speaker 3: adding adding key pieces, challenger roster. You know. So that

1049
00:55:59,266 --> 00:56:01,506
Speaker 3: was this, that was what this, uh, this draft and

1050
00:56:01,546 --> 00:56:04,706
Speaker 3: this offseason was all about. But I feel confident that

1051
00:56:04,746 --> 00:56:08,466
Speaker 3: we'll be able to, you know, to have a successful

1052
00:56:08,546 --> 00:56:10,426
Speaker 3: run game, which for me opens everything else up and

1053
00:56:10,466 --> 00:56:12,586
Speaker 3: helps their down and it helps move the ball and

1054
00:56:13,026 --> 00:56:14,146
Speaker 3: give you more opportunities.

1055
00:56:14,546 --> 00:56:18,026
Speaker 1: You know, it's dangerous asking about ownership with coaches because

1056
00:56:18,026 --> 00:56:20,226
Speaker 1: of whatever. But like I have gotten to know David Tepper.

1057
00:56:20,306 --> 00:56:24,226
Speaker 1: I know he's super excited about you. What's that dynamic

1058
00:56:24,306 --> 00:56:26,226
Speaker 1: so far have been Like with David and Nicole, who

1059
00:56:26,266 --> 00:56:27,306
Speaker 1: plays a big role as.

1060
00:56:27,226 --> 00:56:33,306
Speaker 3: Well, That's that's been fantastic. I see a couple who

1061
00:56:33,426 --> 00:56:36,946
Speaker 3: is really passionate about their team, you know, and sometimes

1062
00:56:37,066 --> 00:56:40,786
Speaker 3: Nicole more than David. She just like absolutely loves Panthers

1063
00:56:40,826 --> 00:56:44,706
Speaker 3: football and the whole thing, the community. Like she's like

1064
00:56:44,906 --> 00:56:48,346
Speaker 3: so fired up to like served and find like who

1065
00:56:48,346 --> 00:56:50,346
Speaker 3: can we like, who can we bless? Who can we

1066
00:56:50,386 --> 00:56:53,386
Speaker 3: go and like spread this? You know, And so that's

1067
00:56:53,466 --> 00:56:55,466
Speaker 3: kind of like her deals. Like I just want to

1068
00:56:55,466 --> 00:56:58,426
Speaker 3: come out to practice and and enjoy the energy of

1069
00:56:58,466 --> 00:57:00,986
Speaker 3: what I'm seeing and hopefully that's what they've seen. And

1070
00:57:01,066 --> 00:57:03,546
Speaker 3: with David, you know, just you know, to be able

1071
00:57:03,546 --> 00:57:05,946
Speaker 3: to be with him and pick his brain and like

1072
00:57:06,066 --> 00:57:09,026
Speaker 3: lean on on the successes that he's had. You know,

1073
00:57:09,146 --> 00:57:13,146
Speaker 3: he's unbelievably successful in terms of like when we think

1074
00:57:13,186 --> 00:57:16,546
Speaker 3: of leadership and you know, all those things, and I

1075
00:57:16,666 --> 00:57:18,466
Speaker 3: just like I'm able to kind of sit with him

1076
00:57:18,506 --> 00:57:22,306
Speaker 3: and watch him just like courageously bring us together. Okay,

1077
00:57:22,386 --> 00:57:27,426
Speaker 3: let's evaluate free agency, Let's evaluate the draft process. How

1078
00:57:27,426 --> 00:57:29,266
Speaker 3: did that go? Guys? How was it?

1079
00:57:29,386 --> 00:57:29,466
Speaker 1: Like?

1080
00:57:29,586 --> 00:57:32,866
Speaker 3: What went well? What didn't go well? Why not? And

1081
00:57:33,026 --> 00:57:35,946
Speaker 3: just like there's no blame, there's none of that. It's

1082
00:57:35,986 --> 00:57:38,666
Speaker 3: just like, can we speak the truth? Can we go

1083
00:57:38,706 --> 00:57:42,466
Speaker 3: into things with our eyes open and courageously say, Okay,

1084
00:57:42,506 --> 00:57:44,986
Speaker 3: this didn't work. Bang, let's fix it, let's move forward.

1085
00:57:45,346 --> 00:57:47,226
Speaker 3: You know, his encouragement to us has been like when

1086
00:57:47,266 --> 00:57:49,826
Speaker 3: you can really see, when you can really look at

1087
00:57:49,866 --> 00:57:52,506
Speaker 3: the things that you don't do well and the things

1088
00:57:52,546 --> 00:57:54,986
Speaker 3: that you do well and you can grow quickly, then

1089
00:57:55,026 --> 00:57:57,586
Speaker 3: that's how we find success. And so it's been really

1090
00:57:57,586 --> 00:57:59,746
Speaker 3: cool to just kind of learn that whole side of

1091
00:57:59,786 --> 00:58:00,626
Speaker 3: it from him.

1092
00:58:01,146 --> 00:58:03,706
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I've done a lot of research

1093
00:58:03,746 --> 00:58:06,906
Speaker 1: and talk to him about you know, his Wall Street sesses,

1094
00:58:07,026 --> 00:58:10,546
Speaker 1: and he's not this guy doesn't lose and he bets

1095
00:58:10,546 --> 00:58:13,266
Speaker 1: on himself. And that's what people say, like what's going

1096
00:58:13,306 --> 00:58:15,906
Speaker 1: on with the Panthers. I'm like, I wouldn't bet against

1097
00:58:15,986 --> 00:58:18,346
Speaker 1: Tepper and I wouldn't bet against Canalis. These are two

1098
00:58:18,386 --> 00:58:22,746
Speaker 1: guys who seem to be on the same page right now,

1099
00:58:22,826 --> 00:58:25,226
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't bet against Bryce Young either.

1100
00:58:27,586 --> 00:58:31,146
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I mean I think, uh, I guess

1101
00:58:31,186 --> 00:58:34,066
Speaker 3: one of the things for me when when when he

1102
00:58:34,186 --> 00:58:38,306
Speaker 3: hired me, was I go, here's a guy who makes

1103
00:58:38,306 --> 00:58:43,346
Speaker 3: a living projecting and probably taking things and getting them

1104
00:58:43,386 --> 00:58:46,906
Speaker 3: right before they're at their full value. And I just

1105
00:58:46,986 --> 00:58:48,706
Speaker 3: kind of looked at that and I was like, Okay,

1106
00:58:49,186 --> 00:58:51,666
Speaker 3: so he's got confidence in me that I have a

1107
00:58:51,786 --> 00:58:54,226
Speaker 3: chance to do this. Now. I know, I'm his third

1108
00:58:54,346 --> 00:58:58,226
Speaker 3: coach in a pretty short time, and there's been you know,

1109
00:58:58,306 --> 00:59:01,426
Speaker 3: and especially the last the last staff that was a

1110
00:59:01,506 --> 00:59:04,906
Speaker 3: quick decision, you know. But but I come into this

1111
00:59:04,946 --> 00:59:09,346
Speaker 3: thing and I go, Okay, but he's he sees something

1112
00:59:09,386 --> 00:59:12,066
Speaker 3: in me. He's really excited, and so I think that's

1113
00:59:12,106 --> 00:59:15,346
Speaker 3: just an encouragement for me to go, all right, thank

1114
00:59:15,386 --> 00:59:18,066
Speaker 3: you for recognizing, thank you for seeing me, thank you

1115
00:59:18,106 --> 00:59:22,826
Speaker 3: for seeing this work and this the stuff that's happening here,

1116
00:59:23,946 --> 00:59:26,826
Speaker 3: and for believing and giving me a chance to do it.

1117
00:59:26,906 --> 00:59:29,586
Speaker 3: So I don't know if that makes sense, but I

1118
00:59:29,746 --> 00:59:31,106
Speaker 3: just like it does.

1119
00:59:31,226 --> 00:59:35,306
Speaker 1: You're the housing crisis or your COVID, you know, all

1120
00:59:35,306 --> 00:59:37,946
Speaker 1: the things that he been on before everyone else did.

1121
00:59:38,426 --> 00:59:42,666
Speaker 1: You might be that and it works out for everybody. Okay,

1122
00:59:42,706 --> 00:59:44,426
Speaker 1: quick questions, we're going to wrap. I know you're giving

1123
00:59:44,466 --> 00:59:47,226
Speaker 1: me a lot of your time here. You openly talk

1124
00:59:47,266 --> 00:59:51,426
Speaker 1: about your faith and your father and what you know

1125
00:59:52,586 --> 00:59:55,466
Speaker 1: religion and church means to you. How has that helped

1126
00:59:55,466 --> 00:59:57,666
Speaker 1: you along the way in moments where there might be

1127
00:59:57,746 --> 01:00:00,666
Speaker 1: doubt or there might be questions about what the future

1128
01:00:00,946 --> 01:00:02,546
Speaker 1: you know lays out for you.

1129
01:00:03,626 --> 01:00:09,706
Speaker 3: Yeah, super critical. And and this is where this is

1130
01:00:09,746 --> 01:00:15,826
Speaker 3: where I'm able to come into difficult situations. And number one,

1131
01:00:15,906 --> 01:00:21,866
Speaker 3: because my identity isn't football. My identity football is not

1132
01:00:22,186 --> 01:00:24,186
Speaker 3: first and foremost of my life. And like, this is

1133
01:00:24,186 --> 01:00:28,146
Speaker 3: where I make all my decisions about this is this

1134
01:00:28,226 --> 01:00:31,546
Speaker 3: is what you know really makes me. So I'm able

1135
01:00:31,586 --> 01:00:35,826
Speaker 3: to come into challenging situations with a little better understanding

1136
01:00:35,906 --> 01:00:38,586
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, this is scary, but this is also

1137
01:00:38,666 --> 01:00:40,506
Speaker 3: not like this, it's not going to make or break

1138
01:00:40,586 --> 01:00:44,986
Speaker 3: me as a human in my identity in Christ and

1139
01:00:45,066 --> 01:00:47,786
Speaker 3: my identity with the Lord is so so I'm able

1140
01:00:47,826 --> 01:00:50,106
Speaker 3: to courageously just say, yeah, let's go for it. Okay,

1141
01:00:50,226 --> 01:00:53,386
Speaker 3: another great opportunity. Yeah, let's go for it. The possibilities

1142
01:00:53,426 --> 01:00:56,826
Speaker 3: are endless, you know, And just and then in those

1143
01:00:57,386 --> 01:01:00,506
Speaker 3: in those situations, I think the part that that I've

1144
01:01:00,506 --> 01:01:03,426
Speaker 3: had to lean on the most, especially over the last year.

1145
01:01:04,266 --> 01:01:06,106
Speaker 3: You know, in Tampa we lost six out of seven

1146
01:01:06,146 --> 01:01:07,906
Speaker 3: games right in the middle of the season. Yeah, so

1147
01:01:08,066 --> 01:01:11,426
Speaker 3: we lost, we lost four straight, six out of seven.

1148
01:01:11,826 --> 01:01:13,786
Speaker 3: And to be able to just show up and be

1149
01:01:13,866 --> 01:01:17,466
Speaker 3: the same guy every day, because what's most important to

1150
01:01:17,506 --> 01:01:19,946
Speaker 3: me as I come into this building is that I

1151
01:01:20,026 --> 01:01:23,626
Speaker 3: love and respect the people I work with, that I'm honorable,

1152
01:01:24,106 --> 01:01:26,586
Speaker 3: that I do my best work, that I that I

1153
01:01:26,626 --> 01:01:30,586
Speaker 3: honor God Colossians three twenty three. Whatever you do, do

1154
01:01:30,666 --> 01:01:32,346
Speaker 3: it as if I'm to the Lord. And so for me,

1155
01:01:32,386 --> 01:01:36,386
Speaker 3: it's just I look at the situation and I go okay.

1156
01:01:37,546 --> 01:01:40,026
Speaker 3: But I get to lead by example by just pouring

1157
01:01:40,026 --> 01:01:42,666
Speaker 3: into my work regardless of the circumstance, regardless of what

1158
01:01:42,906 --> 01:01:45,746
Speaker 3: headline was just written about us in low expectations, I

1159
01:01:45,746 --> 01:01:51,346
Speaker 3: don't care, come in here, love people, work hard, and

1160
01:01:51,386 --> 01:01:54,066
Speaker 3: then just leave the rest up to the Lord. And

1161
01:01:54,106 --> 01:01:59,586
Speaker 3: that's that's been such a huge, such a huge thing

1162
01:01:59,666 --> 01:02:02,986
Speaker 3: for me, especially when we were losing, and like I

1163
01:02:03,026 --> 01:02:05,546
Speaker 3: wanted to make it about me. How do I fix this,

1164
01:02:06,106 --> 01:02:09,026
Speaker 3: How do I control this? How do I help this part,

1165
01:02:09,106 --> 01:02:10,986
Speaker 3: how do I do this, I do this, I do that,

1166
01:02:11,066 --> 01:02:13,786
Speaker 3: and it's just like, it's not about me. It's not

1167
01:02:13,866 --> 01:02:17,186
Speaker 3: about me, and I don't control all the outcomes. So

1168
01:02:17,466 --> 01:02:20,186
Speaker 3: just work hard and treat people well and love people,

1169
01:02:20,466 --> 01:02:24,186
Speaker 3: and the right outcome will happen. Yes, do on our

1170
01:02:24,226 --> 01:02:28,506
Speaker 3: ability to teach it, our talent level of our players.

1171
01:02:29,266 --> 01:02:31,746
Speaker 3: That will take care of all these things if I

1172
01:02:31,826 --> 01:02:35,306
Speaker 3: just continue to just honor it, and so it keeps

1173
01:02:35,306 --> 01:02:38,946
Speaker 3: it from making it really personal, you know, towards others

1174
01:02:39,146 --> 01:02:42,546
Speaker 3: or towards myself, and just allows me to just stay

1175
01:02:42,546 --> 01:02:45,666
Speaker 3: steady and consistent throughout it. I'm gonna need that for

1176
01:02:45,706 --> 01:02:47,066
Speaker 3: sure this year, and you will.

1177
01:02:47,386 --> 01:02:50,026
Speaker 1: You will. My last question, let's go back to that

1178
01:02:50,026 --> 01:02:53,546
Speaker 1: that kid coming out of college who's got the weights

1179
01:02:53,626 --> 01:02:55,786
Speaker 1: and a few plates and it was a tax right

1180
01:02:55,826 --> 01:02:57,586
Speaker 1: off for somebody else, and you're like, let's run a

1181
01:02:57,626 --> 01:03:00,826
Speaker 1: little gym over here, let's do our own thing. Put

1182
01:03:00,866 --> 01:03:04,106
Speaker 1: yourself in that guy's shoes and have him look at

1183
01:03:04,106 --> 01:03:06,866
Speaker 1: the life that you've lived, in the career that you've had.

1184
01:03:08,226 --> 01:03:11,066
Speaker 1: What would you say your one piece of advice to

1185
01:03:11,306 --> 01:03:14,666
Speaker 1: that kid, now, knowing what you know, what would you

1186
01:03:14,706 --> 01:03:18,226
Speaker 1: tell that kid back then? If he said to you, Hey,

1187
01:03:18,546 --> 01:03:20,906
Speaker 1: someday I'd like to get involved in coaching, what would

1188
01:03:20,946 --> 01:03:21,586
Speaker 1: be your guidance?

1189
01:03:26,706 --> 01:03:32,066
Speaker 3: I would say, you're doing great. So you're doing great,

1190
01:03:32,106 --> 01:03:36,226
Speaker 3: because it just it started with loving people, and it

1191
01:03:36,346 --> 01:03:40,506
Speaker 3: just started with going back to a community that needed something.

1192
01:03:40,746 --> 01:03:43,146
Speaker 3: They needed what I learned in college, and they needed

1193
01:03:43,666 --> 01:03:48,426
Speaker 3: that encouragement, and they needed some place to be that

1194
01:03:48,586 --> 01:03:51,666
Speaker 3: wasn't out on the streets doing crazy stuff. And so

1195
01:03:51,786 --> 01:03:54,626
Speaker 3: I think it was just I would just encourage that

1196
01:03:54,666 --> 01:03:58,306
Speaker 3: guy to like to just keep loving people and just

1197
01:03:58,386 --> 01:04:02,066
Speaker 3: meet needs and like that's that's kind of been the

1198
01:04:02,146 --> 01:04:06,026
Speaker 3: roadmap to getting here, is just building boyds and meeting

1199
01:04:06,066 --> 01:04:09,706
Speaker 3: needs along the way and not being afraid to step

1200
01:04:09,746 --> 01:04:12,906
Speaker 3: into roles I might not have been completely equipped for,

1201
01:04:13,306 --> 01:04:14,906
Speaker 3: but to say, I'll learn what I need to learn.

1202
01:04:15,106 --> 01:04:17,666
Speaker 3: So just I think just the courageous I would just

1203
01:04:17,746 --> 01:04:19,866
Speaker 3: encourage that guy just and then and then I would

1204
01:04:19,906 --> 01:04:23,146
Speaker 3: probably smack him around and tell him to like, really

1205
01:04:23,186 --> 01:04:25,266
Speaker 3: pay more attention to your wife too, by the way,

1206
01:04:25,306 --> 01:04:29,426
Speaker 3: because she's she's amazing, and uh, I wouldn't want to

1207
01:04:29,466 --> 01:04:33,506
Speaker 3: lose all those years. That's probably more of the stuff

1208
01:04:33,506 --> 01:04:34,946
Speaker 3: that I would spend time.

1209
01:04:35,146 --> 01:04:37,466
Speaker 1: The personal life the being with the family and not

1210
01:04:37,466 --> 01:04:39,586
Speaker 1: not not living in the office, that kind of stuff.

1211
01:04:40,666 --> 01:04:42,826
Speaker 3: Yeah, not living in the office, and just not making

1212
01:04:42,866 --> 01:04:46,906
Speaker 3: stupid decisions like in my marriage and stuff, the stuff

1213
01:04:46,946 --> 01:04:49,826
Speaker 3: that my wife and I went through that I my

1214
01:04:49,906 --> 01:04:54,746
Speaker 3: decisions took us through that could have been avoided just

1215
01:04:54,786 --> 01:04:57,386
Speaker 3: by taking myself out of certain situations. And so I

1216
01:04:57,426 --> 01:05:00,626
Speaker 3: think I would probably just I would have I would

1217
01:05:00,666 --> 01:05:04,146
Speaker 3: probably spend most of my time there talking to that guy.

1218
01:05:05,146 --> 01:05:07,906
Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah. Tell you, we have a lot of

1219
01:05:07,906 --> 01:05:12,106
Speaker 1: coaches on on you like there's so much toxicity in

1220
01:05:12,146 --> 01:05:15,186
Speaker 1: our world, and I turn on you know, some of

1221
01:05:15,226 --> 01:05:18,666
Speaker 1: the television channels, even we're talking about sports, it's this

1222
01:05:18,706 --> 01:05:21,986
Speaker 1: guy sucks, this guy can't win the big one. Dave,

1223
01:05:22,066 --> 01:05:23,946
Speaker 1: I talked to you. I feel like there's a light,

1224
01:05:24,066 --> 01:05:26,586
Speaker 1: Like I feel lifted. I'm not trying to blow tires

1225
01:05:26,626 --> 01:05:29,346
Speaker 1: into your your your your blow air into your tires here,

1226
01:05:29,346 --> 01:05:33,546
Speaker 1: but like you have a very soothing and encouraging way

1227
01:05:33,546 --> 01:05:36,546
Speaker 1: about you that I think is very contagious.

1228
01:05:37,586 --> 01:05:39,746
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Peter. I feel the same way. You know,

1229
01:05:39,826 --> 01:05:42,146
Speaker 3: whenever you send me a text or give me a

1230
01:05:42,186 --> 01:05:44,866
Speaker 3: call or whatever it's, it always starts off with something

1231
01:05:44,946 --> 01:05:48,346
Speaker 3: super uplifting, and it's like it's just a reminder like, Yeah,

1232
01:05:48,386 --> 01:05:50,626
Speaker 3: life is really good, isn't it. Even when it's hard,

1233
01:05:50,786 --> 01:05:54,986
Speaker 3: it's like still good, you know. And so I really

1234
01:05:55,066 --> 01:05:57,186
Speaker 3: appreciate that about you too. It's really encouraging.

1235
01:05:58,106 --> 01:06:00,266
Speaker 1: Okay, So go enjoy Mount Adams. Did I get that right?

1236
01:06:00,346 --> 01:06:03,906
Speaker 1: Mount Adams? Yep, yep, Go enjoy Mount Adams, the beautiful

1237
01:06:04,026 --> 01:06:06,066
Speaker 1: Washington country. You're talking to a city slicker right here,

1238
01:06:06,106 --> 01:06:09,466
Speaker 1: you talking about hikes and all these things. I'm like, I

1239
01:06:09,506 --> 01:06:11,346
Speaker 1: don't know about all that, but you seem to be

1240
01:06:11,346 --> 01:06:14,666
Speaker 1: able to unplug and get to the mountains and gosh,

1241
01:06:14,746 --> 01:06:16,986
Speaker 1: you're up right now. And for the listeners who are

1242
01:06:17,026 --> 01:06:21,626
Speaker 1: listening to this, it's seven point thirty Pacific, and Dave said, sure,

1243
01:06:21,746 --> 01:06:23,506
Speaker 1: let's do it, and let's start the way that way.

1244
01:06:23,546 --> 01:06:26,266
Speaker 1: And I so appreciate you for getting up early. Go

1245
01:06:26,346 --> 01:06:28,386
Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of your week, Go enjoy the rest

1246
01:06:28,386 --> 01:06:30,866
Speaker 1: of your off season, and then let's get after it.

1247
01:06:30,946 --> 01:06:32,826
Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch the Panthers this year. Man.

1248
01:06:33,866 --> 01:06:36,586
Speaker 3: Awesome, man, I appreciate you. Thanks for the opportunity to

1249
01:06:36,706 --> 01:06:39,426
Speaker 3: just share about what we're doing and some of the

1250
01:06:39,466 --> 01:06:42,026
Speaker 3: things in my life too. Just it's really cool to

1251
01:06:42,146 --> 01:06:45,186
Speaker 3: just remember where I came from. So bad and you

1252
01:06:45,266 --> 01:06:47,626
Speaker 3: enjoy some time off too, Man, get all the microphone,

1253
01:06:47,666 --> 01:06:49,466
Speaker 3: get your headphones off, and.

1254
01:06:49,146 --> 01:06:53,986
Speaker 1: I know, I know, all right, Dave Canalis. Awesome stuff

1255
01:06:54,066 --> 01:06:56,986
Speaker 1: is always the season with Peter Schreger bringing you another

1256
01:06:56,986 --> 01:06:58,786
Speaker 1: great one, coach, good luck this season.

1257
01:06:58,826 --> 01:07:00,746
Speaker 3: Man, Hey, thanks a lot talk.

1258
01:07:00,786 --> 01:07:13,866
Speaker 1: So I gotta say, uh, there's a certain calmness and

1259
01:07:14,986 --> 01:07:20,386
Speaker 1: like confidence that he's got aaron that like I am,

1260
01:07:21,146 --> 01:07:22,026
Speaker 1: I'm all in on Dave.

1261
01:07:21,986 --> 01:07:26,746
Speaker 2: Kaz That was Yeah. I mean, it's a good resume

1262
01:07:26,866 --> 01:07:30,746
Speaker 2: to say. I came from working with the Seahawks with Gino,

1263
01:07:31,186 --> 01:07:36,266
Speaker 2: who was nobody's top choice for quarterback and outperformed everyone's expectations.

1264
01:07:36,346 --> 01:07:38,946
Speaker 2: And then I went to Tampa with Baker and saw

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Speaker 2: the fire and Baker like wanting to succeed, and I

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Speaker 2: saw how important it was for him to win the job.

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Speaker 2: And now he's going to Bryce and I liked, I

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Speaker 2: really loved his quote about like you focus on being

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Speaker 2: the quarterback, You're not doing everything. We're going to get

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Speaker 2: the offensive line to do their part, the receivers to

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Speaker 2: do their part, and that will let you succeed. And

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Speaker 2: that's a nice way of looking at this, So I

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Speaker 2: really enjoyed that.

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Speaker 1: I also like the temper part at the end. I

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Speaker 1: was a little nervous that I was going to mention

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Speaker 1: the owner, and then you get like, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: like he was very open about it. He's a interesting

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Speaker 1: dynamic force in the NFL right now, and it's been

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Speaker 1: through three head coaches in three years or whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: But here's a guy who's had a ton of Wall

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Speaker 1: Street success, gambles and risks some things before everyone else

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Speaker 1: isn't on it, and has hit the jackpots several times,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, okay. And I remember Kevin Demoff came

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Speaker 1: on this podcast and talked about McVeigh and was like,

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Speaker 1: he's thirty years old, but if we don't hire him now,

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Speaker 1: someone else will next year and we'll be like, well,

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Speaker 1: we didn' hire him because he was thirty. That was

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Speaker 1: the wrong reason. With Canalis, obviously, Tepper sees something that

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Speaker 1: he sees as an emerging you know, blue chipper, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, let's get him in the building now. Whether

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Speaker 1: or not he's had a ton of offensive coordinator experience,

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Speaker 1: whether or not he's a household dame, whether or not

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Speaker 1: he's ever been a head coach before, and Canalis knows

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Speaker 1: that and views himself that way. That's very self aware

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Speaker 1: and I really thought that was cool.

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Speaker 2: And like I think you said, it wasn't this is

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Speaker 2: the only guy who got the interview. There were yeah, fourteen,

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Speaker 2: over a dozen guys that they interviewed, and this is

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Speaker 2: who Tepera was like, yes, this is of these, like

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Speaker 2: you said, stocks, this is the one I'm picking is Canalis.

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Speaker 2: So that's promising.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoy talking to him. They're gonna be better

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Speaker 1: this year. I don't know how good they're gonna be,

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Speaker 1: but that's not for here or for now. I just

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Speaker 1: want everyone to get to know Dave Canalis. Great great

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Speaker 1: juice to start the off season with the Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 1: and then training camps right around the corner. Aaron, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank our intern at. iHeart Tyler Grosso.

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Speaker 1: Am I saying it right? Grosso? Tyler, get on the mic.

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Speaker 1: What do you got here? Do we did? I? Grosso

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Speaker 1: junior at Penn State killing it right now at iHeart

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Speaker 1: in an internship with the podcast group, which I think

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Speaker 1: is so cool. I wish I could do done something

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Speaker 1: like that in College. Good luck to you, Tyler, You're

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Speaker 1: gonna kick butt. And then for all the listeners, thanks

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Speaker 1: for hanging in here and listening during the off season.

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Speaker 1: Some of my favorite episodes. We'll be back next week,

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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrigan. The Season with Peter Schrager

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