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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys like DD Lamb and now your hosts Dane Brugler,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner, and Kyle Yeomans. We are just

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Speaker 1: the NFL drafting. We are at the Dallas Cowboys dot

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Speaker 1: out there about these draft prospects, about what the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: as well, and we've got plenty of them with pro

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Speaker 1: the thought process on these three as well. Dave Burglar, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: Katie Turner, We've got Jeff cavanaughm Kyle Joman's glad you're

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Speaker 1: with us, and well, Jeff, I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: want to hit the Caleb Farley news again with the

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Speaker 1: back surgery. Wanted to get your take on it really quickly.

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Speaker 1: We won't go in depth on this, but what does

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Speaker 1: about Caleb Farley due to his draft stock on your board? Well,

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Speaker 1: for me, and I think Dani will probably be able

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Speaker 1: I would immediately eliminate. Like we're talking about a top

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Speaker 1: so I'm terrified and next so for me, Caleb Farley

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Speaker 1: Farley in. I put him a cornerback four myself, so

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Speaker 1: it's not black and white. We can learn more about

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Speaker 1: good point. One the other another example Montez Sweat two

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Speaker 1: hope they do it free safety. I hope they signed Kazy,

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Speaker 1: I would not want to pick Caleb Farley at forty

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Speaker 1: I would say, okay, now pick another one. Now, let's

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Speaker 1: front end of that double dip, and that's Patrick Zutan

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Speaker 1: And I guess J. C. Horn is now in that conversation. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe even cornerback one? Jeff, I know you put that

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Speaker 1: in our group tax is that something that you actually believe?

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Speaker 1: Do you think Horns better than certain because you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: many as we potentially can. I'm gonna rapid fire these

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Speaker 1: at you, so I'm gonna start with you, Dane. Where

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Speaker 1: are you guys projecting Pete Werner Ohio State? Where do

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Speaker 1: you think he's going to potentially end up? That question

457
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Speaker 1: coming from Jake. I think he's probably late third, early fourth,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of like that borderline top one hundred.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a quality player. I think the biggest

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Speaker 1: best thing about him is the versatility. You know, you

461
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Speaker 1: can leave him on the field all four downs, play

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Speaker 1: special teams, can hold up in coverage. I really think

463
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Speaker 1: he's a very heady player. I love his eyes. The

464
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Speaker 1: way he plays. He's always chasing, So I don't know

465
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Speaker 1: that he's a playmaker. There's some inconsistent tendencies there, but

466
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Speaker 1: plays with range. His sights are always on the football,

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Speaker 1: So you know, you could I want a player like

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Speaker 1: that on my team. I just I don't want to

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Speaker 1: necessarily have to pay a top one hundred price for him.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I don't. I think if you can

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Speaker 1: get him early day three, fourth round, you're gonna you're

472
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Speaker 1: gonna not gonna regret that pick. I got him in

473
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Speaker 1: the exact same spot I think, Um, I am a

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Speaker 1: sucker for the like what jumps out at you on

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Speaker 1: tape from a guy, so like Baron Browning, the Ohio

476
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Speaker 1: State linebacker, he kind of has that for me where

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Speaker 1: it's like, wow, look at that burst, look at the

478
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Speaker 1: closing burst. Holy cow. And with Werner it's just more

479
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Speaker 1: kind of steady, And I'm like, man, You're athleticism isn't

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Speaker 1: jumping out? Playmaking ability isn't jumping out? Like could he

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Speaker 1: become an NFL starter? I guess he's steady, but there's

482
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Speaker 1: nothing about him that wowed me. And if you don't

483
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Speaker 1: wow me with anything, you end up in the fourth round. Yeah,

484
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Speaker 1: for a context, just where I have him, Um, fourth round,

485
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Speaker 1: I have him in the same area as in terms

486
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Speaker 1: of linebackers. You know, Halfanga, I don't have Halfena as

487
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Speaker 1: a safety and uh Monnie Rice Georgia kind of in

488
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Speaker 1: that fourth round area. And then you know we have

489
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Speaker 1: worst players in the fifth round of course, but yeah,

490
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Speaker 1: same same, the same way I felt about the word.

491
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Speaker 1: I thought the best thing he didn't the best thing

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Speaker 1: that he did that made me like really, uh, you

493
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Speaker 1: know wake up would be was when he was blitzing.

494
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Speaker 1: I thought that was his best his best attribute. Now

495
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Speaker 1: I mapping out my top one hundred, um that I'll

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Speaker 1: be up in the athletic next week. And he was

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Speaker 1: one of the five, the first five that I left off,

498
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Speaker 1: so he was very very close. Um, but you know,

499
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Speaker 1: just missed the cut for me. So just barely missing

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Speaker 1: the cut at the top one hundred, that's pretty good.

501
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: I wish I was a top one hundred on Dan's

502
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Speaker 1: draft board. Um, let's go to Connor on Twitter. Connor

503
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: NFL Draft he does great work. But he said, what's

504
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: the knock on Melifonwu. The physical and athletic traits are

505
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: off the charts. He has impressive tape against top competitions

506
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: such as Clemson and you n see, But what do

507
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Speaker 1: you think about Melifonwu and his knock against really his

508
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: draft stock early in this one, And Jeff, I know

509
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Speaker 1: you've talked about him on multiple occasions. Oh, I think

510
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Speaker 1: most well, I don't want to actually speak for anybody else,

511
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Speaker 1: just speak for me. I don't think that having somebody

512
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Speaker 1: as like a second round player is having a big

513
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Speaker 1: knock on him. I think you can have other guys

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Speaker 1: that you feel a little bit more comfortable with, Like

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Speaker 1: I feel like Greg Newsome when I watch him, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm more comfortable watching him as a as

517
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Speaker 1: a cover three, as an ability to process what's happening

518
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Speaker 1: around him as a zone player. It's just a matter

519
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Speaker 1: of when you start stacking up guys in individual rounds.

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Speaker 1: To me, all you're doing is saying, you know the

521
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Speaker 1: combination of everything that they have. I'm either more comfortable

522
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Speaker 1: or I trust him more, or I like that he

523
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Speaker 1: can do more different things. I got Melifon who as

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Speaker 1: a second round player, so I don't have major knocks

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Speaker 1: on him. I love the athleticism. I think you're just

526
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Speaker 1: all you're doing is stacking up a bunch of guys

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Speaker 1: that you like. Can I just say one thing first

528
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: of all? One of my knocks here is that he

529
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: doesn't put his mouthpiece in, so when he's backpedaling, his

530
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: mouthpieces bouncing around and dangling off off his helmet, and

531
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Speaker 1: that really bothers me. But I noticed this, and I

532
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Speaker 1: don't like want to come across as um, you know, hey,

533
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: you know, tuck your shirt in, kid. But I noticed

534
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: a few times where he takes steps off, not taking

535
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: plays off necessarily, but KOs takes steps off. There's a

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Speaker 1: play and what game is that in? To see if

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00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: I have it right here, there's a play. I don't

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00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: know what game it was. I'm sorry, but there's a

539
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: play where he had shown this tendency throughout the game.

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Speaker 1: It might have been North Carolina. He'd shouldn't this tendency

541
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Speaker 1: throughout the game to just kind of if the balls

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Speaker 1: go on the other side, okay, that's fine, just kind

543
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Speaker 1: of you know, we're not we're not working real hard

544
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Speaker 1: well the quarterback. Then it's like in the second half,

545
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback looks to the right and then comes back

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Speaker 1: to the left real quickly on a slant route and

547
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: he gets torched. And I'm like, dude, you weren't ready

548
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Speaker 1: to go on that snap, and like you would sit

549
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Speaker 1: multiple times if there were snaps where he just wasn't

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Speaker 1: ready to go. I love the player. I think he's great.

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Speaker 1: I just think a little tightening up on dismal lect dude.

552
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: When he was an alpha at Syracuse, right, so it's

553
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Speaker 1: like I get it, like you don't have to take

554
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: every play one like go go go, like you're rudy. Right,

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00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: He's not that type of deal. But that was like

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Speaker 1: that was a thing that did bother me. And I

557
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a little bit of knowing what

558
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: we knew about his older brother thrown into that, But

559
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: maybe there is. I'm only here his brother didn't play

560
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: very hard. He does, yeah, and he's guilty of coasting

561
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: at times too, but he's supposed to. I mean, talking

562
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: to everybody I've talked to says he's just wired differently

563
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: than his brother. So I don't know that's as big

564
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: of a concern. Um. I for me, another guy kind

565
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: of like Horn, which just makes way too much contact

566
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: against six flags last year alone. So you know, a

567
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Speaker 1: guy that's physical, and that's great. I mean, I I'm

568
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: not saying he should be a fourth rounder. Um, it's

569
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Speaker 1: just one of those things that is, you know, I'd

570
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Speaker 1: take a little bit of issue with needs to dial

571
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: it back, needs to be more disciplined. He's so long

572
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: legged that it takes him just a half second to

573
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Speaker 1: unfurl those long legs and to turn and go and

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00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: sometimes against really speedy receivers that'll it'll be a lot

575
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: more obvious. So you know, he just he's a really

576
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: good player. But when you're in this cornerback class and

577
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: you're stacking Melofon with guys like Stokes and Tyson Campbell

578
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: and Kelvin Joseph and all these corners that are in

579
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Speaker 1: that second round range, it's just it's just smallest little

580
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: details that might be the difference for some teams. I

581
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: definitely think so, And I mean it's a question that's

582
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: going to continue to be asked about. I mean, his

583
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Speaker 1: taking plays off. I mean, Katie brought up a great point.

584
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go back and watch that North

585
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Speaker 1: Carolina game because I want to see exactly what you're

586
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Speaker 1: talking about. This next question comes from Larry and while

587
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Speaker 1: we're talking about safeties that are right in that area,

588
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: how about Jamar Johnson safety from Indiana. And this is

589
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Speaker 1: a guy who we were asked about him on Tuesday.

590
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: We didn't really know a whole lot about it, and

591
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: that was a homework assignment for us. But I mean,

592
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Speaker 1: he's graded really high on a couple of draft boards.

593
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Speaker 1: But Dane, where do you have him on yours? Well,

594
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Speaker 1: he did make my top one hundred. Wow, So there's that. Um,

595
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, I do worry about him as a run defender,

596
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Speaker 1: and that's why he I think he's number one hundred actually,

597
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 1: So that's why he's not a hundred and not, you

598
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: know in the top sixty or top fifty. Is he's

599
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: a little choosy as a tackler at times, and that

600
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: that bugs me. But this is a guy that's fluid.

601
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Speaker 1: He's got ray. He can go make plays on the

602
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: ball just as justin fields. Um, you know, he just

603
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: a really ranging corner or safety who can play both sidelines.

604
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: He had four interceptions this past year and only eight games.

605
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot to like about what he offers

606
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: in the back half of the field. Yeah, I mean,

607
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: I always seem one game, so I don't have, you know,

608
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: a ton of credentials to speak on him. I didn't

609
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: see you know, those are like explosive type traits. It's

610
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: like Vin had decent speed and things like that. So

611
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: that's still hard to tell. Get more work to do

612
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: on him, and I've just got the Maryland game soon. Yeah, No,

613
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Speaker 1: I mean I think I have more work to do

614
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: on him as well. I haven't really watched him at all.

615
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance yesterday. I'm gonna do that

616
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: today though, and I'm gonna tweet about it as well

617
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: whenever I'm watching him. All Right, So this next one,

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00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: I think this is a great question from Mike on Twitter.

619
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: He said, take away all the other factors. If you

620
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: could pick one linebacker to fit dan Quinn's new defensive

621
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: system and plug into this defense, which of those would

622
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Speaker 1: you choose? And Jeff, he singled you out on this question.

623
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: He said, besides Jeff, who will take Nick Boltlan regardless

624
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: of fit. But if that's your choice, that's your choice.

625
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: But if you had to choose a linebacker out of

626
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: this draft class to fit this new defense, which one

627
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: would you choose? That's a terrible question because the answer

628
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: is too easy. I mean, I'm taking Jokaya. If I

629
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Speaker 1: just get to pick whoever I want, I'm taking Because

630
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: now we're assuming that dan Quinn we're drawing a picture

631
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Speaker 1: of sort of a cover three, and then I'm drawing

632
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: a picture of the speed linebackers that he's had with

633
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Speaker 1: him with Dion Jones in Atlanta. And so I'm going, Okay,

634
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: don't mind undersized and you want guys that can fly

635
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: around and make tackles for loss, then I would go

636
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Usu Coromoa. I think that that would be my

637
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: easy one. Michael Parsons will fit anything, but yeah, I'll

638
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: go undersized, fly around, make plays in the backfield. I'll

639
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: go Jay. Okay, and they just signed keanu'neil to play

640
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: that role, so yeah, yeah, true, here you got him.

641
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: Is that what you would choose, Katie? Oh? Yeah, no,

642
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: that that's that's the fit right there. Um. Now, if

643
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: you wanted to, like, you know, well, that's too late now.

644
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: But if you wanted to go ahead and do the

645
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: Jalen thing, then hey, we can talk about Nick Bolton

646
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: and we can talk about Zaman Collins and we can

647
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: have that fun. But you know, we don't need to.

648
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: When's Kentucky's Pro day? I want to see how Jayman

649
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: Davis tests. I'm a big fan of his. I just

650
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: want to see how he tests. Great question, Dan, do

651
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: you know when Kentucky's Pro day is? Yeah, that's next week,

652
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: but what the hell? Yeah, it's probably somewhere, don't You

653
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: don't have every pro day on the top of your head.

654
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: That's unfortunate. No, I do not mark every player. All right, Okay,

655
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: so yeah later in the week, So let's this next

656
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: question comes from Carson. He said, what are some of

657
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: the weaknesses of Jalen Phillips the edge rusher out of

658
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: Miami and not counting his injuries so no injury red

659
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: flags are the What are the weaknesses from mister Jalen Phillips.

660
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: I think the whole It seems like a lot of

661
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: people have momentum for him as the top edge rusher

662
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: in the class and tell you to me Danner Kat

663
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: can take you through all the medical history, which is

664
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: obviously there. I think I think Jalen Phillips is a

665
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: good pass rusher because I think that he's a developed

666
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: pass rusher, Like we talk about a lot with guys,

667
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: do you have a plan? And I think he has

668
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: ways that he can win inside and out. I like

669
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: the body type. I think that there's a lot to like.

670
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a great run player, like I

671
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: don't think he has great natural power, and I don't

672
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: think that he's a quote bendy guy in terms of

673
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: turning the corner. I think he's more linear, but I

674
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: think he's a good pass rusher with a plan is

675
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: with his hands and his feet that can win inside out.

676
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: So in this pass rush class, I think that there

677
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: is a there's a solid chance that that's a first

678
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: round pick. But I don't think that he's a I

679
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: think he's a good prospect, not necessarily a great prospect. Okay,

680
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: I want to say this in the most respectful way

681
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: possible because this is the part of the job that's

682
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: easy for me to talk about because I don't have

683
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: to do it. We need to find out more about

684
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: him because a I can't have a moped guy. He

685
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: got hit by a car when he was on a

686
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: moped broke his wrist. To the music thing, I'm serious,

687
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm serious. Okay, he could play like multiple instruments and

688
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: wants to like produce music, and his grandpa's like a

689
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: dean of music at the university. Like he's like, is

690
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: he more talented as a musician than a football player?

691
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: He might be like, like, legitimately that might be the case,

692
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: like truly, and I agree with Jeff, I don't. I

693
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: didn't see a good run player, but I saw a

694
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: guy who could find the way to get to the

695
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: quarterback and a guy could get in the backfield pretty

696
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: consistently and and that's that's good enough to go top

697
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: fifteen for me. Now he uh, music's his first passion,

698
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: he said that. So you know it's that that's something

699
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: that is at least discussed with the NFL scouts. I

700
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: with Jalen Phillips. I I got flashbacks. You see little

701
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: flashes of the bosses because like what Jeff Kates we're

702
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: talking about with just how developed he is as a

703
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: pash rusher, with the way he'll use his hands, um,

704
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: how he's more smooth than sudden um. And so he

705
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: has a plan. We attacks, attacks the pocket, and he

706
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: can win in different ways. Uh, you know, he'll use

707
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: a two handed swipe or you know, he'll dip his

708
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: shoulder and work the edge. He can win in these

709
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: different ways, and he's very calculated. But it's not also

710
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's not h it's not robotic.

711
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: It's very natural for him. So you know, there's a

712
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: lot to like about Jaylen Phillips, but you can't ignore

713
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: the off field, can't ignore the medicals that kind of thing,

714
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: and that's certainly a could be an anchor on his

715
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: draft grade. Um. You know, I don't. I don't. He's

716
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: a tough guy to project. He has first round ability.

717
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: Is he gonna go in the first round? Maybe he might,

718
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: but he might also might follow the second round. It's

719
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: definitely been a fun player to listen to Eric excuse me,

720
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: watch during his times. I mean, I guess he's a

721
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: fun player to listen to as well, whenever you talk

722
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: about his music. Uh how about Roy Wary? On Twitter?

723
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 1: He said, obviously we aren't looking for a quarterback one

724
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: in this draft, but is there a QB two that

725
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: would be worth talking about or as an undrafted free agent?

726
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: M I don't know. In these quarterbacks you can do it.

727
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I like David Mills a lot, but I

728
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: they're not drafting a quarterback in the first four rounds.

729
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: Go pretty high, run, you know, Yeah, I think he's

730
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: got a shot to go on Day two. Um, you know,

731
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's like a Kyle Trask falls

732
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: far enough. You know, maybe I consider that, but you know,

733
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: I still probably gonna go higher than I would want

734
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: to draft him. I don't know. Ian Book i'd be

735
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, if we're talking seventh round and Ian Book

736
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: still around, I'd be okay with that. I like Ian

737
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: Book Quinn a bit as a late round guy because

738
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: of his mobility and what he what he brings in

739
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: that respect. So Ian Book would be if I'm the

740
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: Cowboys and I'm looking sixth, seventh round and i want

741
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: to throw a dart at a quarterback, I'd be comfortable

742
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: with Ian Book. Well, just just a reminder if when

743
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about Kyle Trask, nuss Meyer recruited Kyle Trask

744
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: to Florida, and of course nuss Meyer here is the

745
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: quarterback coach for the Cowboys. Plus Dan Quinn. I know

746
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: this is on the defensive side of the football, but

747
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: he was down there as well during that time, So

748
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe there is a Florida connection on

749
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football, but maybe Kyle Trask

750
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: is in that conversation. Now, I had a couple of

751
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: questions that asked, this, is there a potential we should

752
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: be talking about Christian Barmore, the defensive tackle from Alabama

753
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: at ten and because I feel like we've we've kind

754
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: of pigeonholed that pick to the cornerbacks in either Sir

755
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: Tan or Horn or in terms of offensive tackle or

756
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. I mean, that's kind of where we're at

757
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: with pick number ten. But is there any chance whatsoever

758
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: that Christian Barmore slips into that. If they do it,

759
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: be disappointed in your football team. That's too early. I mean,

760
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: I like Barmore's potential, but you gotta realize, Like, look,

761
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: he was great in the College Football Playoff, and defensive

762
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: tackles who can rush the passer have a lot of value.

763
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: But if I'm going to pick a guy in the

764
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: top ten, man, he'd better be a starter on his

765
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: college football team. Alabama clearly didn't trust him as a

766
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: run player, like they he was not a full time

767
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: starter at Alabama. So like, he's got a lot of

768
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: good tools that you like for a defensive tackle, and

769
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: if you can rush the quarterback up the middle, got value.

770
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: But if they pick him at ten, Honestly, I think

771
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: Barmore in any other D tackle class, he doesn't go

772
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: in the first round, and in this one, maybe he

773
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: does because I think he's the best de tackle prospect.

774
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: But if he goes in the first it's because of

775
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: the class, not necessarily him. I think that's fair. It's

776
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: easy to sell bar Moore because he's a guy that

777
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: just he doesn't stay blocked very long. He's too powerful,

778
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: he's too active, he moves too well for a guy

779
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: that's you know that size six, four twenties pounds and

780
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: only a Richard sophomore six career starts. You know, there's

781
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of ability they're waiting just to be untapped.

782
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: But I agree with a lot of what Jeff said.

783
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: I'd also point out that defensive tackles a position that

784
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: this team just does not value in the first round.

785
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: They haven't in a long time, and it would be

786
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: against type and a big surprise if they went to

787
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: Barmore in ten. Yeah. I mean, like he's around my

788
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: twentieth to twenty first you know, rated player. It's just

789
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: we're talking about picking tenth the worst case scenario. Like

790
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: I know, there's been like so much chatter on positions

791
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: and stuff. At the worst case scenario, it is just

792
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: you know, busting on a guy who knows that could

793
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: always happen. I think Barmore, the conversation with the Barmore

794
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: should only be about if you trade back, or if

795
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: you put your picks together and trade it up to

796
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: the you know, if you put forty four and seventy

797
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: five together, you know, you can get somewhere in the

798
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: mid twenties, early to mid twenties hopefully, if you maybe

799
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: the Jets say hey we want pick ten, here's pick

800
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: twenty three and thirty four. All right, Well, then we

801
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: can start talking about Barmore. Sure. So that's to me,

802
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: I think it's just I think it's just too early

803
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: right there. At ten, we're in premo position. At ten,

804
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: we lost just enough games just to sneak inside the

805
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: top ten. Now, final question here before we take our

806
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: next break. But Brian asked on Twitter, he said, if

807
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: everyone thinks that Kyle Pitts of course tight end out

808
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: of Florida as a future pro Hall of Famer, how

809
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: can you pass on him at ten? And I feel

810
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: like this is a question right up the alley for

811
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: Jeff Cavanaugh, and he said, why would your team do that?

812
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: And could they trade Jarwin Schultz for anything if they

813
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: decided to do so? That's a good question. I mean,

814
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: if he's going to be a Hall of Famer, why

815
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: not Kyle Pitts at ten? The way you talk yourself

816
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: out of Kyle Pitts, my answer is you don't. You

817
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: can't pass on Kyle pitch. You pick him. If he's available,

818
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: you pick him, and I don't think he'll be available,

819
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: that would be my guest. The only reason I can

820
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: find is because I am a believer in any information

821
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: I can get, and you can build the case of hey,

822
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: let's look at the history of tight ends in the

823
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: NFL draft and what happens when you pick him in

824
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: the first round. But then I also compare that too.

825
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: I'm not here to scout helmets or the history of

826
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: a position. Just because the NFL got it wrong and

827
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: didn't pick Travis Kelsey or George Kittle high enough is

828
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: no reason to miss. If you believe in that Kyle

829
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: Pitts is going to be an amazing NFL player, you

830
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: pick him. It doesn't matter. I don't care what helmet

831
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: sticker you wear. I don't care what the listed position

832
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: is and the history of NFL teams picking them. Kyle

833
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: Pitts is one of the five or six best players

834
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: in the draft. If you have the opportunity to pick

835
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: him at ten, you do because he's the best player.

836
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: It reminds me at the Quintin Nelson conversation a few

837
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: years ago, where he don't generally draft guards in the

838
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: top ten, let alone the top six, where he ended

839
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: up going. But a lot of people, smart people are

840
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: on the league thought he's the best player in the draft.

841
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: So you know, it's I don't think he makes it

842
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: to ten for that reason. He's just one of the

843
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: best players in the draft at regardless of position, and

844
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: those guys you just shouldn't pass on those guys. One

845
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: of those teams is going to be like, we just

846
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: can't pass on him. But if he's there at ten, yeah,

847
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be the guy that passes on

848
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: on Kyle Pitts. Yeah, that's that that that would be

849
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: my philosophy towards it. Um Now, I don't think it's

850
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: fair to put the Hall of Fame label on him

851
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: as for a guy that's never suited up in an

852
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: NFL game before. But I think it's an easy guy

853
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: to fall in love with because he's just very unique,

854
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: very rare Kyle Pitts. That Kyle Pitts is aren't just

855
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 1: walking around, uh and they're just very very rare players.

856
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: And so I'm jumping at the chance to add that

857
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: to my offense. He's going to the Eagles at six.

858
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: Oh god, I mean probably right. You have to. You

859
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: have to maybe maybe or five um yeah, five possibility. Yeah,

860
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: Like one of those teams are gonna be like, we're

861
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: not gonna we can't pass the champion. That's too good. Yeah,

862
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: you don't. You can't. You can't narrow it down to

863
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: he plays tight end and tight ends that or picked

864
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: tight haven't done well. What you have to narrow it

865
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: down to is who is he? And the answer is,

866
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: if you're a corner who is six foot tall, you're

867
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: not big enough to cover Kyle Pitts. And if you

868
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: are a human who is six foot two, six foot three,

869
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: six foot four, you're not quick enough to cover Kyle Pitts.

870
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: And if you're six foot four and you are quick

871
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: enough to cover Kyle Pitts, I got bad news for you.

872
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna outplay you for the ball anyway. Like he's

873
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: a stud, you know, and he's getting better and better

874
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: and better. I mean, we have to remember his trajectory

875
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: and high school he was pretty much basically a blocker,

876
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: all right. He didn't get a chance to show this off,

877
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: and he was a late to tight end. He only

878
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: played tight end his final two years of high school.

879
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: His first year of Florida didn't too much Hit two

880
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: nineteen tape a lot of drops. I still had him

881
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: as my eleven player on the board in August because

882
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I was so infatuated with this athleticism for so we

883
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: lost day, but he was making a great point on

884
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: exactly what Kyle Pitts and especially whenever it comes to

885
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: picking him at ten. There's a part of me that

886
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: just hopes that Kyle Pitts is not there at ten

887
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: because then the Cowboys don't have to worry about it.

888
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: But also there's a part of me that I mean

889
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: a huge part of me that doesn't want him to

890
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: end up in the NFC East because I don't want

891
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: to have to worry about him twice a year or

892
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: against other teams, and that's my biggest thing. So whenever

893
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: Kates he said six to the Eagles, it makes one

894
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: way too much sense and two scares the living daylights

895
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: out of me. So overall, I would rather not have

896
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts in that regard, But we're gonna go ahead

897
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: and step aside. That was Twitter on the twenty fantastic questions.

898
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: As always, thank you for your support and for your questions.

899
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: Way We got to a lot of them that time.

900
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: I love that. When we come back, though, Kyle Pitts

901
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,520
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902
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,799
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Speaker 1: Now once again I want to remind you we are

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00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,960
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945
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,399
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946
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Speaker 1: you those updated shifts whenever I can pull it up

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Speaker 1: on my phone. But before then, I want to get

948
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: into Pro Day news and notes and Dane. I mean, really,

949
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: the biggest impressions that were on me whenever it came

950
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: to Pro Day was of course the run from Patrick's

951
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: or Tan on the forty yard dash? Was it an

952
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: official four four six? Is that what the official time was?

953
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: But that was a lot quicker than I was anticipating.

954
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: And then of course J C. Horn and what he

955
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: was able to do at his Pro Day. But were

956
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: there any other pro days or those specifically that stood

957
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: out to you? Those definitely stood out. I don't I

958
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: don't think either of those two guys. Maybe they don't

959
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: necessarily played that's consistently, but you know it's I don't

960
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't think that they're uh, you know, speed was

961
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of a question. I think they answered

962
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: that obviously, whether or not they actually played at that speed.

963
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: So great to see from both those corners. They cemented

964
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: themselves as you know, top fifteen, top seventeen types type guys.

965
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: M you know other pro days. You know, Penn State's

966
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: going on right now and Jason Oway and Michael Parsons

967
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: are both putting on a show, which to be expected.

968
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Parsons is a complete freak, and he

969
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: said that Jason Oway is a bigger freak, and so

970
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: far we've seen it. You know, Parsons looked like he

971
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: was at a four to three H. Jason Oway was

972
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: at a four to three And this is a defensive

973
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: end we're talking about. Sou For those asking why a

974
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: guy was zero sacks is in my first round at

975
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: a pass rusher H, That's exactly why. Because he's a

976
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: physical freak and he's still disruptive in the pocket even

977
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have those sack numbers. So what Penn

978
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: State's doing right now certainly jumping off the screen at

979
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: man Groundale Moore. Uh, not that anything that he did surprising,

980
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: but all five seven of them, all five to seven,

981
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: and he's I forgot what wade he came in at,

982
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: but surprise, he runs a four two nine and his

983
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: vertical is a million inches. He's a stud athlete, he's

984
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: just timy. Can we talk about a guy that I

985
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: know Jeff likes, but I would say his pro day

986
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: was not excellent. Again, I'm still very skeptical of pro

987
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: day times. I'm never gonna get over that, probably, But

988
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: Shakur Brown, the cornerback at Michigan State. I had him

989
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: at five to ten, measured out at five to nine. Okay,

990
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: that's fine, ran a four six one. I don't know

991
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: if that's really yet. It's not terribly surprising for a

992
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: pro day, I guess. I mean I kind of thought

993
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: I kind of thought were Pro Day at kat Oh.

994
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: I thought I thought he did a science project once

995
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: upon a time where they compared combine in pro day times,

996
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: and if you're going handheld to combine in theory, you

997
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: add about point zero six. So now my guy is

998
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: small and runs maybe a four seven guy, I thought

999
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: he was a I thought he was a four five guy,

1000
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: and think he was a four four guy, and then

1001
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: you don't think four six one. Yeah, well, the same

1002
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: thing at your guy, our Darius Washington running in the

1003
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: fourth sixes. That was surprised. I thought you run a

1004
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: little bit better than that. So Dane's going after Jeff Well.

1005
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: A difference between Brown and Washington is my level of love.

1006
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: So with Washington, I don't care because he plays faster

1007
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: than any safety in college football. So we're fine. We're

1008
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 1: not worried about him. Brown is going to get dropped.

1009
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: It's in a matter of how much you love and

1010
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: I love our Darius and nothing can stop us. And

1011
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: we are making him Billy Madison style list of everybody

1012
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: who's doubting good. I'm glad that's the case. I love that.

1013
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: Uh not that we're gonna take any action on the list.

1014
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: We just want another one. Knows no. He's been a

1015
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: fourth rounder for him in this entire process, and nothing

1016
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: has changed for me. He's gonna be the greatest. I

1017
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: can't wait till the Cowboys take him in the fourth

1018
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: because I love drafting Pro bowlers in the fourth. It's

1019
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. You'd wait to call up Jeff like

1020
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: during weekend and say, hey man, I'm sorry I was

1021
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: wrong about our Darius Washington, and then Jeff mark me off.

1022
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: Jeff marks me off the list and then put some

1023
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: lipstick on. And those are things I do. Those are

1024
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: things I do all the time. Now I'm gonna do that.

1025
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: Florida State had a Florida State had really fast track

1026
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: at their pro day. Uh Sante Samuel ran really well.

1027
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: He came at five ten one eighty and he ran

1028
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: at four three eight, which is really good to see

1029
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: for him. He's under seven seconds and a three cone. Uh.

1030
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: And then the pass rushers with Jennarius Robinson, Kane Doe,

1031
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 1: both those guys ran really well. To marry On Terry

1032
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: the wide receiver at sixty three two oh seven ran

1033
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: the four fours. So Florida State has a pretty good

1034
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: showing from their athletes. What does that do for Samuel

1035
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: Stock I mean, whenever it comes to him in the corners,

1036
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: he's still on the outside looking in of at least

1037
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: what we thought was the original top three with Farley,

1038
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: certain and Horn, but now with it beating the top two,

1039
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: is he sill on the outside looking into the top

1040
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: three or is he right on that cup. I wouldn't

1041
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: be surprised if he goes in the first round. I

1042
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: got I got a thing that's happening in my brain

1043
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: with corners because I love I'm a visual person, so

1044
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 1: I love like the spider graphs that show you how

1045
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: what percentile guys are among prospects. But I have a

1046
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: problem with the corner one because we say you're in

1047
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: the one hundredth percentile if you're like six foot three,

1048
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: Like congrats on being tall, there is a point where

1049
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: at corner, I don't think that's helping you. I would

1050
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: much rather my corner be six foot than six four.

1051
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: So at five that doesn't bother me much other than

1052
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: Clemson throwing jump balls on him. I think it's Sante Samuel.

1053
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't think his stock for me anyway would move

1054
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: because I kind of anticipated five ten four four guy

1055
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: and a really good player, and that's what he is.

1056
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: Dane might have to go. I'm not sure. If Jeff

1057
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: you watched this guy, you give us a little more

1058
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: on Chauncey Golston for Maowa because he had outstanding He

1059
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: had an outstanding pro day as well over Iowa. Yeah, Now,

1060
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Chauncey Golston. Like if you

1061
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: get to the day three, because he's not gonna go

1062
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: talk one hundred, I don't think yeah, but you get

1063
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: to day three, he'd be one of those defensive linemen

1064
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: that I'd be itching to get because he gives you

1065
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 1: inside outside versatility. He plays long, he plays quick, He's

1066
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: got an outstanding instincts, uh, you know, for the football,

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00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: and so he's just a well rounded, polished player who

1068
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: can start. But I think it's more about the versatility

1069
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: he gives you up and down the line. Just a quality,

1070
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: quality player who probably more of a role player for

1071
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: you on defense, and you know you need those guys,

1072
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: you know. So I would absolutely look to target him

1073
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: in the fourth or fifth round. You'll get four years

1074
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: of cheap NFL football out of him and he will

1075
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: play all four of them. M that's good. I like that. Okay, Dan,

1076
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: Can you tell me more about Nate Hobbs because when

1077
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: you look at his pro day numbers that kind of

1078
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: stuck out to me as well. Four three eight unofficial

1079
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: on the forty had a six six eight three cone.

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00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: His vital cool was up over forty inches. What can

1081
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: you say about the corner from Illinois? Uh, let me

1082
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: give you his official um blah blaha five eleven three

1083
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: so five eleven three eight, one hundred ninety six pounds. Okay,

1084
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: uh four four six and a forty forty and a

1085
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: half of her eleven three broad six eight five three cone. Um.

1086
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: He's a really really talented player who got in some trouble.

1087
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: Was a sophomore year, suspended a few games. He was

1088
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: hurt a little bit this past year. But he's athletic

1089
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: and he's tough, and I would not be shocked at

1090
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: all if he Hobbs got drafted late. Um. It wasn't

1091
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: a combined guy. But I think that Teddy did enough

1092
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: at his pro day. And that's what pro days pay

1093
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: attention to, these pro days at this time of year,

1094
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: because this is this is where guys that show out

1095
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,959
Speaker 1: and you know, run really well or do something exceptionally well.

1096
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: Those guys can get into the draft even though they

1097
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: were previously thought of as maybe to be undrafted or

1098
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: PFAE type. So Nate Hobbs is one of them. Want

1099
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: to be shocked if he sneaks his way into the

1100
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: late rounds. Nice. Okay, I saw those numbers and they

1101
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of stuck out to be. Now, we talked earlier

1102
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: about Jeff having the call or whoever having the call,

1103
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: who about our Darius Washington and being wrong or being right.

1104
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a moment to tell Dane once

1105
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: again that he was right and that I was wrong,

1106
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: because Jaylen Darden had his pro day today and Jaylen Darden,

1107
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: the wide receiver out of North Texas, has been my

1108
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: pet cat from day one, even before day one, because

1109
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: of my allegiance to the Mean Green. However, today he

1110
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: ran a forty time after measuring at five to seven

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00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: and a half. He ran a forty time that was

1112
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: in the four six four seven range. Still awaiting on

1113
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: the official time, but it was much slower than I anticipated.

1114
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: Four six four seventh airs me a lot. Jeff Cavanaugh

1115
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: on film, he plays fast, he's way faster, but it's seven.

1116
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: There's no way he is a baller. Ball yes, don't

1117
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: back down. It's a guy baller. He's a baller. I

1118
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: don't know that. There's no way. There's no way he's

1119
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: a he's not a four sixth athlete. I don't think.

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00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't blew my mind. There's no one. I saw

1121
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: that at that time. That's why you ignore it. You

1122
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: gotta trust the tape. Sometimes you just get to throw

1123
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: stuff out. You say, no, it's faster than that. I

1124
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: don't care. No, he's fat, I mean, but he is

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00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: five to seven and that shows up on the tape.

1126
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 1: Or just a small target, you know, because of that,

1127
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: he likes to freelance his routes. Uh, you know, he

1128
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: he's just a small target. And for those reasons, I

1129
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: think I don't think he goes top one hundred, but

1130
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: he's still a quality player who with that speed. I

1131
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: mean I get Chicken Grant type of vibes from him.

1132
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know that. Did he stumble? Did they

1133
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: mark off a forty five yard dash? Something's going on there. Yeah,

1134
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: he's a he's a I mean, he's a four four

1135
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: or five guy. So I'm looking at another tweet, hits.

1136
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm looking at another tweet right now. His second forty

1137
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,479
Speaker 1: that he ran for first one was in four six

1138
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: four seven, and then unofficial in his second was a

1139
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: four four six, so much better, but still not as

1140
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: fast as I was kind of hoping that would go.

1141
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: I thought it'd be like a four. Yeah. So yeah,

1142
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: put it. He put it in four yards forty four

1143
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: instead of the forty straight up. Instead, he ran four

1144
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: thirty eight thirty eight yards the next time out, as

1145
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: Brian brought us would love to say, but hey, four

1146
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: four six is a lot strong winds. Well, it's yeah,

1147
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: it's it's yeah. They got even tea and always the

1148
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: best at kind of you know, measuring thing. Stop the numbers, chill.

1149
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come and fight you, mister Acu're gonna figure

1150
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: it out. We both got to win in the tournament.

1151
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: Just be happy, Okay, goodness, graz we did it. We did.

1152
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: We're in music in art school. We've never said, hey, human,

1153
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: come here for a math. I would say where a podcast.

1154
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: That's not the case either, But that's gonna do it

1155
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: for us here on the Draft Show. Glad you've been

1156
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: with us here over the last hour. Once again, I

1157
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: hope you learned something investigating and educating with us. But

1158
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Speaker 1: we'll be back on Tuesday, completely different set of guys Tuesday, Brian, Dane, Jeff.

1159
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: That'll be a lot of fun with those guys. And

1160
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: so you can get you can get Katie with Bucky

1161
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: and Dave on Thursday. So if you want more Kat.

1162
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: He'll be next Thursday as well, the normal time for

1163
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: mister Kevin kat Turner, but tearn Bucky up on running backs.

1164
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. This is gonna be fun. We'll

1165
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: switch it up every week from here until the Draft,

1166
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: and then we'll be back to the normal cruise whenever

1167
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: it's the week of the draft, but until then for

1168
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh, for Kevin kat Turner, Dane Brugler, and of

1169
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: course Chris being back in studio. I'm Kyle Yomen. Thanks

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01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: for joining us here on the Draft Show. This has

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Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com, the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club.