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Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly Show on

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Speaker 1: a hook day, and we're going to do counterintelligence this hour.

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Speaker 1: Like spies, We're not going to do it, per se.

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Speaker 1: I guess I kind of will, given my extensive spying background.

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Speaker 1: But Jay Michael Waller, he's a former spook. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: join me about a half hour from now. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk to him about the Chinese infiltration of our

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Speaker 1: government because it is extensive. That's going to be interesting.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do that this hour. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: the American government facilitating the invasion, encouraging the invasion of

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Speaker 1: this country. Even further, I am going to pay a

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Speaker 1: compliment to a dictator at some point. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it'll get happen this hour, but it's gonna happen soon.

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Speaker 1: Oh that and so much more coming on The Jesse

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Speaker 1: headliners here before I do that. Headlines is I want

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Speaker 1: to bring another thing home for you. You hear this story.

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Speaker 2: Sources tell Fox News that eighteen year old Haitian migrant,

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Speaker 2: a Keen Mark Desire was arrested by police in Mansfield

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Speaker 2: last week for allegedly molesting a ten year old boy

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Speaker 2: who lives near him. He is now in ice custody.

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Speaker 1: Remember when we had fourteen thousand Haitians amassed at our

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Speaker 1: border and the media ran an op against a border

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Speaker 1: patrol agent. Joe Biden's administration took part in that op.

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Speaker 1: This border patrol agent was on horseback and he was

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Speaker 1: grabbing one of these Haitians by the back of his shirt,

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Speaker 1: And it was really controversial that we woke up and

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Speaker 1: there were fourteen thousand Haitians amassed at the border. It

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Speaker 1: was so controversial that the Biden administration tried to stop

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Speaker 1: television cameras from filming all these Haitians at the border.

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Speaker 1: And then one morning we woke up, I think it

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Speaker 1: was three days if I remember right, they were there.

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Speaker 1: And then we woke up and as the sun began

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Speaker 1: to rise, we saw the Haitians were gone, simply gone.

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Speaker 1: But where did they go? Did they go back home?

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Speaker 1: Most of them were actually not original. They didn't come

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Speaker 1: But did they go back down south? Well, no, in

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Speaker 1: order to avoid any bad press, and in order to

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Speaker 1: further facilitate the invasion of the United States of America

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Speaker 1: and the destruction of the United States of America, your

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Speaker 1: government let them all in the house, in the country. Government,

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Speaker 1: welcome them all in here, and they all remain to

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Speaker 1: this day. Pair that with this, Mexico offers escorted bus

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Speaker 1: rides to asylum seekers heading to the US. Well, that's bad, right,

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Speaker 1: want to deal with it, and they're bussing them north. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. That's an act of war. How could they

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Speaker 1: do that? Oh, here's a headline. Biden Harris administration negotiates

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Speaker 1: bus passion bus passage And I don't know why. That's difficult

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Speaker 1: CBP one asylum app, the United States government has an app,

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Speaker 1: and this app is used by illegals to ensure the

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Speaker 1: United States government will put illegals on a bus and

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Speaker 1: drive them to the border. Your tax dollars, my tax dollars,

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Speaker 1: courtesy of Democrats and Republicans like James Langford. Our tax

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Speaker 1: dollars are being used to fly and bus illegals into

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Speaker 1: the country who will then take your job, destroy your

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Speaker 1: ones that aren't raping and murdering and dealing drugs. And

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Speaker 1: this is all being done on purpose by Democrats. And

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Speaker 1: want to move on to emails, because when I when

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Speaker 1: stresses me out for what it means. So I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna lay it out again and then we're going to

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Speaker 1: move on. I don't know. I don't know how we

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Speaker 1: get out of this, And I mean in this way,

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Speaker 1: I am very hopeful about some of our future, some

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Speaker 1: I am hopeful because of our state system that you

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Speaker 1: can preserve and protect if we wake up and finally

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Speaker 1: it's twenty years of Republican rule and then Democrats come

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Speaker 1: I seriously don't. I don't know how a nation, how

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Speaker 1: unless that changes's it is what it is. It is

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Speaker 1: what it is, Jesse. I want to say, I'm tired

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Speaker 1: of everyone blaming politicians for everything that is wrong. I

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Speaker 1: believe the politicians represent us perfectly, the idiots leading the idiots.

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Speaker 1: We keep putting the same people in office over and

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Speaker 1: over and over, expecting a different result. The voters in

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Speaker 1: this country are ignorant. They vote ignorant people into office

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Speaker 1: and then blame them for not doing anything. The voters

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Speaker 1: are ignorant, not the politicians. Dumb people have never and

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Speaker 1: will never be free, and we are a dumb people.

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Speaker 1: I love your show. I listened daily. But that was

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Speaker 1: a little harsh but probably fair. And you've heard me

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Speaker 1: say really that a lot. We don't have a politician problem.

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Speaker 1: We have a people problem. Because these people don't accurately

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Speaker 1: reflect you. You don't want to hear that, and I

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear that. They don't reflect me at all.

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Speaker 1: But as far as reflecting the nation as a whole,

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Speaker 1: this is what we are. These people are us. The

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Speaker 1: things I want you to just I want you to

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Speaker 1: remember this. Remember one of Joe Biden's main lines when

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Speaker 1: he was gun grabbing, especially since all the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: gun grabbing today. Remember what one of his main lines

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Speaker 1: has been since he's been president. No amendment is absolute.

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Speaker 1: How many times did you hear him say that? A million? Well,

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Speaker 1: no amendments absolute. No amendment is absolute. You understand that

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Speaker 1: for most of the history of this country, whichever politician

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Speaker 1: if any politician said that in the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: not only would they lose office, that they would lose

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Speaker 1: safety would probably be in danger from the civilians, from

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Speaker 1: the citizens of the country. If, for instance, you uttered

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Speaker 1: in the United States of America, the President of the

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Speaker 1: just we'll stay on that same subject. Do you remember

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Speaker 1: when Joe Biden told us when they were trying to

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Speaker 1: force everyone to get vaccinated. Remember when he said, We've

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden said his patience with us was wearing thin.

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Speaker 1: have a people problem. And as much as it hurts

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Speaker 1: me to say and hurts you to hear, these people

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Speaker 1: It means we, the people have to improve. Right, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's do some more of these emails. I first want

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Speaker 1: want to do this done for you. Real estate talk,

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Speaker 1: a PEP talk for you. I know you heard Peter

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Speaker 1: done for You Jesse dot Com and let them begin

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Speaker 1: done for you Jesse dot Com. I'm gonna kind of

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Speaker 1: It is The Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday, a

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Speaker 1: Hope Day, and do not forget. If you miss any

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Speaker 1: here it is. You know how much I hate Tim Walls.

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Speaker 1: It's not because he's a Democrat. That's part of it,

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Speaker 1: but that's really not the main reason. It's the stolen

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Speaker 1: valor stuff that gets me about Tim Walls. I actually

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Speaker 1: it grades on me to no end. So I really

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Speaker 1: more than I like Kamala Harris. That said, there was

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Speaker 1: It's being promoted in Nebraska, and the picture is a

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Speaker 1: So there are a bunch of Tim Walls's family members

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Speaker 1: And I love when people campaign against Tim Walls. Happy

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Speaker 1: people to get involved locally, nashly, statewide, get involved, get involved. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm all on that. But there's nothing you could ever

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Speaker 1: Okay, how how does the best way you can simplify this?

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Speaker 1: Media doctor can you act plain counter intelligence? Meaning what

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Speaker 3: And that's what's going to happen. Because we're not in

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Speaker 3: all saw that with the exception of some of the

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Speaker 3: INFO all of the infiltrators, they saw that as their mission. Now,

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Speaker 3: when they got to the point where they thought they

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Speaker 3: knew better than everybody else, they ended up abusing their

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Speaker 3: mission and abusing their power and then damaging the very

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Speaker 3: thing that they were sworn to protect. It was a

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Speaker 3: little different that was created by well over one hundred

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Speaker 3: years ago, but it was really built by j Edgar

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Speaker 3: Hoover and he ran it for forty eight years. But

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Speaker 3: in looking at the history of it, Jessex found that

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Speaker 3: for all of Hoover's abuses, he was never as powerful

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Speaker 3: as the FBI is today, and he was never as

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's pretty much terrifying. Doctor. Where can people get

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Speaker 1: this book, Big Intel so they can figure out what's happening?

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Speaker 3: Well, I've been effectively banned from Barnes and Noble stores,

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Speaker 3: but the best place to get it, and the best

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Speaker 3: deal is on Amazon. And then if you want to

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Speaker 3: get it from a library, you can get it on

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Speaker 3: a libby app.

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Speaker 1: I think any book that is being banned by big

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Speaker 1: book places is one that you should go pick up.

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Speaker 1: The book is called Big Intel. He's ja Michael Waller. Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate you very much.

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Speaker 3: Good to talk to you, Jesse.

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Speaker 1: Counterintelligence, Chris, I feel like I'd be good at this.

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Speaker 1: I have to penetrate the Chinese spy agency. Why are

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Speaker 1: you shaking your head? I have to look, Chris, nobody'd

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Speaker 1: be better at this than me. They'd never suspect me.

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Speaker 1: That's what makes it so great, because I'm so tall,

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Speaker 1: I can do counter intel. I knew it. Gosh made

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Speaker 1: for this. You know what you're made for, Saving lives,

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Speaker 1: saving babies, lives at Preborn, that's what you're made for. No,

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Speaker 1: we do have to focus on saving the innocent. We

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Speaker 1: won a great battle when Roe versus Wade was overturned,

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Speaker 1: but it in no way won the war at all.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of abortions, as many as we've

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Speaker 1: ever had in this country because now young women are

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Speaker 1: using the pill and doing it in their homes. It's awful,

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Speaker 1: but it's happening. We need Preborn to continue their mission

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Speaker 1: of finding these women who are about to abort their

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Speaker 1: babies and giving them a free ultrasound and then if

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Speaker 1: they need help, if they need care, diapers, whatever, they

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Speaker 1: may need, two years of care, if they need it.

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Speaker 1: Your money, the money you give to Preborn, it not

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Speaker 1: only is tax deductible, it's saving lives. Twenty eight dollars

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Speaker 1: buys that ultrasound. Go to preborn dot com slash Jesse

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Speaker 1: and give what you can. Sponsored by Preborn, We'll be

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Speaker 1: back Jesse. Kelly Vaccian. It is the Jesse Kelly show

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Speaker 1: on a Wednesday, and we're gonna dig into some emails here,

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Speaker 1: shall we. Jesse Iceman Kelly, are you going to be

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Speaker 1: nicer to Chris since Michael was gone? No, I'm not,

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Speaker 1: dear Old Balding wise one, anti communism is literally that's

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Speaker 1: not nice. Everywhere this election cycle. Before listening to your show,

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Speaker 1: the enemy was only known as deep state or just

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Speaker 1: pointing a finger at them. You put a label on

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Speaker 1: them to find it and put the message out there

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Speaker 1: so we can spread the word of anti communism to

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Speaker 1: all the normies. How do you think RFK dropping out

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Speaker 1: of the race will affect the minds and the normies

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Speaker 1: who thought they had an easy excuse the RFK dropping out,

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Speaker 1: look it helped. All the poll numbers showed RFK being

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Speaker 1: in hurt Donald Trump more than it hurt Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: and we didn't know that initially. Initially we didn't know

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Speaker 1: who it was gonna hurt more or Kamala Harris, not

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. But what I think is probably the best

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Speaker 1: part of RFK dropping out is now he's speaking even

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Speaker 1: more freely, even though we was speaking freely before about

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Speaker 1: the evils of our medical institutions and the necessity for

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Speaker 1: America to get healthy. I was never going to vote

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Speaker 1: for RFK anyway. But this is a man who's not

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Speaker 1: afraid to speak out against CIA, FBI. He's not afraid

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Speaker 1: to speak out against our medical institutions who do anything

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Speaker 1: but make us healthier. He's speaking about exercise. Go out

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Speaker 1: and get some exercise. He's speaking about the things that

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Speaker 1: are in our food. He's being honest about a COVID reckoning,

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Speaker 1: which will never get in full But I'm glad someone's

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Speaker 1: out there talking like this. There was no.

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Speaker 4: Reason to discourage people from taking ivermectin. Ivermectin was a very,

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Speaker 4: very devastating cure or COVID. It literally obliterated COVID, and

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Speaker 4: you know, by depriving people of ivermectin, we many many people,

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Speaker 4: millions of people around the globe died and they didn't

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Speaker 4: need to. There still has to be a reckoning. The

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Speaker 4: mainstream media hasn't caught up with the science. That the

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Speaker 4: science is out there now, and it's devastating.

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Speaker 1: If that guy is going to be in Trump's ear

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Speaker 1: versus the losers who were in his ear last time,

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Speaker 1: The loser medical people like the Faucis and Burkses of

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Speaker 1: the world. If now it's going to be RFK, that's good.

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Speaker 1: It's not just good for the election, it's good for

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Speaker 1: the entire country. That's awesome. Hey, Lennon bridges ice enthusiast,

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Speaker 1: what's the plan for election night? Will you be on

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Speaker 1: the radio the first TV? Is it a super secret

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Speaker 1: secure location with Clay and Buck. I hope to watch

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Speaker 1: you as the returns come in. Kindly let your listeners know. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's getting a little bit ahead of the time. She

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Speaker 1: did say she's on a pure talk phone, So let

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Speaker 1: the bar east Election night. I'm definitely gonna be on

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Speaker 1: the air, there's no question. Well take that back. I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming I'm going to be on the air. We've run

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Speaker 1: into this before where sometimes radio stations they'll turn off

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Speaker 1: this show on election night and tune into some brutally

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Speaker 1: boring local show. He's gonna sit there and just with

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Speaker 1: twenty five percent in, We've just got the numbers in

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Speaker 1: from Dork County, and Dork County has been a major

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Speaker 1: bellweather they're talking to have. Of course I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be on the air election night. Of course I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be talking to you as the returns come in.

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Speaker 1: So if your local station happens to tune in to

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Speaker 1: some nerd who's boring you to death, just go find

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Speaker 1: me on the iHeartRadio app. I will be here election night.

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Speaker 1: I don't as far as I know, I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's some election night party thing with Clay and Buck

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I guess there could be. But no matter what,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be on the air. I would imagine

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be on TV as well. I don't know. Look,

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Speaker 1: I don't plan things ahead of time, right, I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about some evil Dems for a minute. Yet

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Speaker 1: this one. Do you hear about what Dome did in Philadelphia?

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Speaker 1: They started putting things up in Philadelphia saying, well that

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Speaker 1: she was the candidate of the Eagles. They just lied.

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Speaker 1: That was not true. She was not the candidate of

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. An NFL team didn't endorse anybody. That's not

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Speaker 1: really something they would do. But Dome's campaign did it.

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Speaker 1: They did it, and they forced the Philadelphia Eagles to

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Speaker 1: make a public statement about it. These people lie about

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Speaker 1: everything at all things.

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Speaker 3: I have seen grocery prices come down over the past

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Speaker 3: year or more, and so that is important. And a

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Speaker 3: lot of that is the work that's been done from

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Speaker 3: this administration.

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Speaker 1: They just tell gigantic lies without any shame. I it's

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Speaker 1: something to watch. Remember remember the medical expert I played

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Speaker 1: for you yesterday speaking of gigantic lies. It goes way

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Speaker 1: beyond the by administration and all these people. This over and.

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Speaker 5: Over again, we've seen something that goes far beyond using

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Speaker 5: your best judgment with the information at hand. We've seen

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Speaker 5: something which is unforgivable, and that is the weaponization of

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Speaker 5: medical research itself. The CDC putting out their own shoddy studies,

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Speaker 5: like their own study on natural immunity looking at one

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Speaker 5: state for two months, when they had data for years

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Speaker 5: on all fifty states. Why did they only report that

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Speaker 5: one sliver of data? Why did they salami slice the

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Speaker 5: giant database because it gave them the result they wanted.

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Speaker 5: Same with masking study. Well, the data has now caught

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Speaker 5: up in giant systematic reviews and.

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Speaker 1: Our own Center for Disease Control. As soon as we

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Speaker 1: got a new virus lied to you about everything.

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Speaker 5: Just The greatest perpetrator of misinformation during the pandemic has

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Speaker 5: been the United States government. Misinformation that COVID was spread

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Speaker 5: through surface transmission, that vaccinated immunity was far greater than

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Speaker 5: natural immunity, that masks were effective. Now we have the

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Speaker 5: definitive Cochrane review.

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Speaker 1: What do you do with that review?

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Speaker 5: Cochrane is the most authoritative evidence body in all of

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Speaker 5: medicine and has been for decades. Do you just ignore it?

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Speaker 5: Not talk about it? That myocarditis was more common after.

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Speaker 1: The They just lie about everything at all times. I'm

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Speaker 1: the official candidate of the Eagles, and give it about

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Let that kind of work its way

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Speaker 1: through the low information voter population, and then of course

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Speaker 1: you roll out so well. I mean, I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: not the official candidate of the Eagles. After it's already

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Speaker 1: too late. They lie about everything at all times. It

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Speaker 1: is truly the time of deceit, isn't it? All right?

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Speaker 1: We have another hour. Daniel Turner is going to join

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Speaker 1: us at some point next hour. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it is. I think it's like a half hour into

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Speaker 1: the show. He's going to discuss I don't know why

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Speaker 1: Europe is still buying up Russian gas. I saw that

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Speaker 1: this small and I'm confused. So we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: to Daniel Turner about that before we talk to him.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you, speaking of gas, what

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Speaker 1: do you take before workout? You take anything pre workout,

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Speaker 1: is what I'm asking. I hope you're not taking anything

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Speaker 1: worse than that, but pre workout you do that. You

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Speaker 1: know most of the pre workouts out there, they're full

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Speaker 1: of garbage, all kinds of stuff you don't want in

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Speaker 1: your body. Chalk. Of course, they found a better one.

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Speaker 1: It's called Chad Mode. They took a couple years developing

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Speaker 1: a pre workout. It's all natural caffeines and it will

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Speaker 1: have you fired up and ready to go without all

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Speaker 1: that garbage in your body. I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: him about it. You can call them, text them. They

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Speaker 1: don't just sit there and take orders. They'll talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Five zero chok three thousand. That's five zero e h

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Speaker 1: o Q three thousand. Just tell them I told you

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Speaker 1: to call. They'll take care of you. All right, All right,

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Speaker 1: we still have an hour. Hang on