1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes the reason we've disconnected from people, or we've distanced 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: ourselves from people, is that we're protecting ourselves from unwanted drama. 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Maybe we haven't had the uncomfortable or awkward discussion, and 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: we realize, if I just stay far away from this, 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: I never have to have it. Now, the challenge here 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: is you're missing out on a potentially amazing relationship. But 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: what we've done is, instead of setting a boundary, we've 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: set a barrier. The Number one Health and Wellness Podcast, 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Jay Setty Jay Shetty set Hey, everyone, welcome back to 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: On Purpose. I am so grateful that you are back 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: with me here right now, whether you're walking your dog, 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: whether you're cooking, whether you're driving, whether you're just hanging out, 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: or whether you're at work. Thank you so much for 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: lending me your time, investing your energy and your presence 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: and your focus here on Purpose Now. Something I've been 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: thinking about a lot late, Lee, is just as we 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: grow older, as another year goes by, we start to 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 1: reflect more deeply about the friendships that matter, the people 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: around us, the people at work, the people we spend 20 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: the most time with. How many of you have found 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: yourself in that situation where you're starting to be much 22 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: more observant about who you give your energy to, who 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: you spend time with, how you connect with people, and 24 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: to what level. And how many of you are at 25 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: this point where you're just tired of small talk. You're 26 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: tired of all the quick chats, the superficial, surface level conversation, 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: and you're craving a much deeper, a much more meaningful interaction. Now, 28 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that you don't want to have fun. 29 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that you don't want to laugh, It 30 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you don't just want to have a 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: great time. Of course you want all of that, but 32 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: you want it to mean more. You want it to 33 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: matter more, You want it to to lead to more 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: in that relationship rather than less. And I think a 35 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: lot of us are feeling distant, feeling further away, feeling 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: disconnected from people that we were once close with. How 37 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: many of you have a friend in your life that 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: you know used to talk to every day but now 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: you rarely talk. How many of you have someone in 40 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: your life that used to feel it was so easy 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: to connect with, but recently you've just started to find 42 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: it more and more difficult to open up and how 43 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: many of you are struggling to find someone to be 44 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: vulnerable with. I think we're hearing a lot about the 45 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: loneliness epidemic. We're hearing a lot about the disconnectedness of humanity, 46 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: especially since the pandemic. I think we've all found it 47 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: harder and harder to kind of go back to what 48 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: we had before, and we haven't really found where we're 49 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: heading now. And I think a lot of people are 50 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: feeling this where you're in a different emotional maturity and 51 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: state than the people in your life, right, how many 52 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: of you have felt that where you're like, well, I'm 53 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: on this emotional track and I thought this person was 54 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: with me, but actually they're on a completely different track. 55 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: And it may have even taken you a while to 56 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: even let that settle and to understand it. At the 57 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: core of it, what a lot of us feel is 58 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: that we don't have people around us who really understand us, 59 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: who really see us, and who really hear us. Right, 60 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: have you felt that recently where you're like, I think 61 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking to a wall, I think I'm talking right 62 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: through people. Or maybe you're feeling, oh, I don't want 63 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: to trouble someone with this I know that they've got 64 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: enough on, but we all have that feeling, that need 65 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: of yearning for connection, of yearning for understanding. The first 66 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: thing I'm going to ask you to focus on, as 67 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: I always do, is yourself. Do you understand where you're 68 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: at and can you articulate it effectively? I think for 69 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: so many of us, we're wanting other people to understand us, 70 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: other people to read our minds. We assume that they 71 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: should know, We assume that they should be able to adapt, 72 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: that they should recognize, that acknowledge, value, whatever it is 73 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: that we need. But I really want you to sit 74 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: with this. Do you understand where you're at and can 75 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: you articulate it? I think this is such an important 76 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: point in order for you to consider, because the better 77 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: you are at communicating, sharing how you feel, why you 78 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 1: feel that way, what you're going through, you're actually increasing 79 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: the list ability to also comprehend your thoughts. Now, the 80 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: second point I wanted to make today is from a 81 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: writer named Brian A. Chalker, and this writer wrote this 82 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: beautiful poem called Season Reason or a Lifetime. This has 83 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: been such a big reflection point in my life, and 84 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: as the author says, everyone comes into our life for 85 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: a season, a reason, or a lifetime. And I want 86 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: to ask you to think about a list of people 87 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: that came to your mind when I started this episode, 88 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: and ask yourself, is that a seasonal person? Is that 89 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: someone who came in for one season and that was it? 90 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: Or are they someone who shows up seasonally but then 91 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: they aren't as relevant, important, consistent at other times? You 92 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: think about certain things, Right, you don't need ice cream 93 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: all ly around, But it's really fun when you can 94 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: eat ice cream when it's hot outside and it's warm 95 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: and you're feeling like it, but you don't have to 96 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: eat it every day to appreciate it. I think we 97 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: often feel like, oh, if someone's seasonal, they're not good. 98 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: If someone's seasonal or just for a season, then they're 99 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: not a great person. The truth is they can play 100 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: their role. They can play their part, and you play 101 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: your part and your role in their life and things 102 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: go on. It's when we expect to be able to 103 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: eat ice cream all ly around that we have the issue. Right, 104 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: we don't have an issue with the fact that we 105 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: like enjoying ice cream at a certain time of year, 106 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: but to think I need it all lyae around that's 107 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: where the challenge arises. So who in your life is 108 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: like that. Maybe they're back every summer, Maybe they turn 109 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: up at the beginning of the year or the end 110 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: of the year, or they're amazing during the holidays. Maybe 111 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: they're a family member, but they're not someone that you 112 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: can hang out with all the time. They're not someone 113 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: who resonates all the time. It's okay, And what we're 114 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: doing is we're almost compartmentalizing for ourselves that that is 115 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: a season or a seasonal person, and that's their role. 116 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: We're not expecting more of them, and we're not expecting 117 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: less of them. We recognize what they want to do 118 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: in our life. And what I've realized is when you 119 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: can accept what someone shows you is who they want 120 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: to be and how they show up for you, you 121 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: can now share moments and memories with them without what 122 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: they should have been, what they could have been, what 123 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: they should have been for you by now, right, So 124 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: wee need to recognize that. Chalker also talks about people 125 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: who come into your life for a reason. These are 126 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: often the most difficult people that we meet. Right. This 127 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: could be someone who actually caused a challenge or an 128 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: issue they came in our life to teach us something 129 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: that was painful. And if you went through this a 130 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: while ago, you can now see the reason. But if 131 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: you went through it recently, the reason is the last 132 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: thing you want. So if you're going through pain right 133 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: now now, if you're going through stress right now, if 134 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: you're going through pressure right now because someone just came in, 135 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: created a whirlwind and then left and you can't see 136 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: the reason right now because you're just dealing with the 137 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: debris that's cascaded all over your life, then that's okay. 138 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: But at one point, with some distance, you'll be able 139 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: to recognize the reason. And when we recognize the reason, 140 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: it changes us. When we recognize the reason that someone 141 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: came into our life with, we now protect ourself from 142 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: that experience in the future, and we prepare ourself to 143 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: know these two points are really important. We prepare ourself 144 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: for future relationships, and we protect ourself for future relationships. 145 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: And this is something that I really want you to 146 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: hone in on and value and deeply deeply recognize of 147 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: where in your life have you not understood the reason 148 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: someone came in with. Maybe there was someone long long 149 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: ago that you've even hidden a way that you feel 150 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: triggered by an uncomfortable bringing up in a safe space, 151 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: maybe with a therapist, with a friend, maybe when you've 152 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: created some distance, reflect on it and ask yourself, when 153 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: they did that, what did I learn from it? What 154 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: was the reason? And the third part that your talks 155 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: about is people who are there for a lifetime. There 156 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: are some people who may not have the biggest impact 157 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: on you, they may not do the most for you, 158 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: but they're always around, They're always there, They're loyalty even 159 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: when it's tested, proves to be true, it proves to 160 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: be real, it proves to be powerful. And that person 161 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: you realize who's with you for a lifetime is someone 162 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: that you continue to invest in. So I want you 163 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: to think about who in your life is a season, 164 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: who in your life is a reason, and who in 165 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: your life came in and has stayed for a lifetime, 166 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: and start understanding that it's okay that people play different 167 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: roles in your life and you play different roles in 168 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: their life. And I think when we expect everyone to 169 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: play the same role, or we expect everyone to behave 170 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: the same or we expect everyone to respect us the 171 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: same or respond with us the same or connect with 172 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: us the same. That's when our challenges occur. That's when 173 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: our issues occur. Now, maybe you're thinking that there are 174 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: certain friends you want to rebuild with, and I want 175 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: to do a reflection exercise with you. You can even 176 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: journal about this. I want to ask you what has broken? 177 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: So when I asked you earlier like, oh, maybe there's 178 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: someone in your life that you used to talk to 179 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: you don't talk with anymore, or someone you used to 180 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: be open with, but now you can't imagine anything but 181 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: being closed with. If you want to fix it, if 182 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: you want to repair it, the first question is why, 183 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: Why is it worth repairing? Do we really believe that 184 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: that person has something to offer us? Do we really 185 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: believe that we need some closure? We have to get 186 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: really intentional and clear about why we would revisit an 187 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: old relationship, And then we have to ask ourselves what broke? 188 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: Was it trust? Was it connection? And on a scale 189 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: of one to ten, how bad was it? How truly 190 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: bad was that disconnect? And ask yourself what in your 191 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: current state of that relationship makes you feel uncomfortable or 192 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: devalued that you've let it go. Is it too big? 193 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: Is it too much? To bear, to have to reconnect, 194 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: putting aside how devalued you feel, or is the relationship 195 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: worth more to you? And I think that's the question 196 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: we have to ask ourselves if we're trying to repair 197 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: a relationship. Is repairing this relationship worth more to me 198 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: than the pain caused when trying to repair it. Repairing 199 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: anything will be uncomfortable, it will be hard, it will 200 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: be challenging, but sometimes the belief that I want to 201 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: do the right thing, I want to have this conversation. 202 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: And this applies to current relationships. I know that there's 203 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: someone I'm building a friendship with right now, and we're 204 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: growing in our trust, we're growing in our loyalty. 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Now, 221 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: I didn't call with the expectation that me being honest 222 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: and vulnerable and transparent would improve the relationship. I didn't 223 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: call with the intention or the belief that they would 224 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: turn around and say, Jay, I really respect you. Because 225 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: when we act in a way in order to gain 226 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: a certain reaction, we often leave feeling quite reduced and disappointed. 227 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: What I mean by that is, if we behave in 228 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: a certain way or act in a certain way because 229 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: we are predicting, expecting, or wanting a particular type of response, 230 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: we're setting ourselves up for failure. We've got to have 231 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: the conversation because we believe it's the right thing to do. 232 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: We have to have the conversation because we believe that 233 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: it's the honest thing to do. We have to be 234 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: the one to have a conversation because we think to ourselves, 235 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: this is how I'd like people to treat me, this 236 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: is how i'd like to be led, this is how 237 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: I'd like to connect. And when we do it with 238 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: that reason, whatever the response is, whether it's positive or 239 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: whether it's not what we were looking for, we can 240 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: hold our head high and still move forward. If you're 241 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: trying to reconnect with someone too, I would ask yourself 242 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: when was the last time you deeply checked in with them? 243 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: I find that our society has become a lot more 244 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: self centered. We're always like, why is not one checking 245 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: in with me? Why do people treat me like that? 246 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: Why did they say that to me? And sometimes I 247 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: find and by the way, I'm prone to this as well, 248 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: where I don't have the self awareness, like I don't 249 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: see myself behaving in the same way as I don't 250 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: like someone else behaving. Right, Does that make sense? Does 251 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: that resonate? Like I remember someone I knew was telling 252 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: someone else that, Like I can't believe you go to 253 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: your boring job every day, And in mind, I'm thinking, wow, Like, 254 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: if you're making a person feel boring and that's the 255 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: job they have to go to every day, imagine how 256 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: bad they're gonna feel. But the same person was saying 257 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: they can't believe people say to them, Oh, I can't 258 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: believe you're deciding to do that. That sounds scary, that 259 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: sounds like the wrong thing. So often we don't even 260 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: have the self awareness to deduce that what we're saying 261 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: to others is what we don't like people saying to us. 262 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: The way we behave with others is a behavior that 263 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: we don't appreciate in the way people behave with us. 264 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: That to me is a really subtle and nuanced point, 265 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: but it can truly save or break relationships. Now I 266 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: have to acknowledge that not every friendship has to have 267 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: a future. Just because you had a past, just because 268 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: you have memories, just because you have nostalgia, doesn't mean 269 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: you have to force a future with a friend. It 270 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: is okay to let it go. It's okay to let 271 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: them go or let them let you go. It's okay. 272 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: Trying to force a friendship into the future will actually 273 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: cost you more than you realize, because if someone doesn't 274 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: want to be in your life, or if you've realized 275 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: that you no longer want to be in theirs, you're 276 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: simply wasting time and energy. Let's celebrate something for what 277 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: it was. Let's revel in what it was at the 278 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: time when it served us, it nourished us, and it's okay, 279 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: hey if it doesn't anymore. You had a lunch box 280 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: that you took to school every day. You don't use 281 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: the same lunch box anymore. You wore clothes that you 282 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: loved and felt really cool in. You don't wear the 283 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 1: same clothes anymore. You lived in an apartment that you've outgrown. 284 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: It's okay, And we don't have to do it with bitterness. 285 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: We don't have to do it pain. We can do 286 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: it with love, celebration, and a positive outlook. One of 287 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: the reasons why we feel distant from our friends is 288 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: because our best memory with them is an old one. 289 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: The last time our relationship achieved something or we did 290 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: something was an old one. And one of the biggest 291 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: things I found with friendships and why they felt shallow 292 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: and not deep, was I found myself, Especially because I've 293 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: left London now, I found myself. Whenever I went back home, 294 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: I would often spend time with big groups of people, 295 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 1: and I found a lot of my friends do that too. Right, 296 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: we run out of time, we have less and less time. 297 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: We can't see everyone, couples, friends individually, and so we go, Okay, 298 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: let's just invite everyone over once a month and we'll 299 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: see everyone. And what ends up happening is you have 300 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: this really small, short, short conversation, this small talk exchange 301 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: with each and every person. Right, you know what it 302 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: feels like, you've hosted before. You just about get to Oh, 303 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: how was your last week? How's the weekend? Oh yeah, 304 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: you went to that place? Oh great, Okay, let me 305 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: move on. Oh yeah, how's your week been? Oh yeah, 306 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: your new job? Congrats? Okay, let's move on. When we're 307 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: connecting with lots of people in a fast, shallow and 308 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: simple way, when naturally making our relationship less and less 309 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: deep and less and less meaningful. If we're always spending 310 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: time with people in large groups, well we have to 311 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: move on from conversations quickly. We have to figure out 312 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: if you're hosting, obviously you've got to do all the 313 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: hosting stuff, and you're not getting that time and space. 314 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: Your relationship will always depend on how you close you 315 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: were back in the day. I have a friend that 316 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: we invested in deeply with probably over ten years ago, 317 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: and now if I see him, it's easy for me 318 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: to reconnect with him and kick it off from where 319 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: we left off. But that's what we're doing. We're kicking 320 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: off from over ten years ago because we don't have 321 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: a dynamic, live relationship right now, and so I have 322 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: to ask myself, is this a relationship I want? Is 323 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: this a relationship I care about? Is this a relationship 324 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: that I value? Then let me make sure I'm having 325 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: these one to one conversations with I've noticed this because 326 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: I've got friends back in London that I do talk 327 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 1: to on the phone one on one. I've noticed that 328 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: those are the relationships that satisfy me the most. Those 329 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: are the relationships that mean the most to me. And 330 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 1: so really figure out how much of your time are 331 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: you spending in groups and how much are your time 332 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: are you spending one to one? And I would argue, 333 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: to really make sense of it, I would say seventy 334 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: five percent of our time should be spent one on 335 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: one with the people we care about and twenty five 336 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: percent should be spending groups. Group time is amazing, it's exciting, 337 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: it's fun, it's it's helpful in different ways, it's healing 338 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: in different ways. But it's so important to have that 339 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: one to one time. Sometimes the reason we've disconnected from 340 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: people or we've distanced ourselves from people is that we're 341 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: protecting ourselves from unwanted drama or unwanted anxiety. So we 342 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: stay distanced, right like, maybe we didn't have a closer conversation, 343 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: maybe we didn't figure out a relationship conversation, maybe we 344 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: haven't had the uncomfortable or awkward discussion, and we realize, 345 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: if I just stay far away from this and never 346 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: have to have it. How many of you have felt 347 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: that way? Well, you actually want to be close to someone, 348 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: but you stay away from them because you know it 349 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: requires a really painful conversation. Now, the challenge here is 350 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: you're missing out on a potentially a amazing relationship. That 351 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: person might be sitting there wondering what's going wrong as well, 352 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: and what's happened to that relationship as well, And we 353 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: almost miss out on the depth of connection. But I 354 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: understand it. I understand it. But what we've done is 355 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: instead of setting a boundary, we've set a barrier. This 356 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: is a really important point I want you to listen to. 357 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,239 Speaker 1: So often when we're trying to set boundaries, we end 358 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: up setting barriers. Barriers keep others out, Boundaries keep us 359 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: safe from ourselves. Barriers make us believe the problem is 360 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: the way someone treats us. Boundaries are us understanding and 361 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: accepting that we need to treat ourselves better. Don't get 362 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: so busy building a barrier that you lose out on 363 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: a relationship or a friendship because you were actually meant 364 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: to set a boundary. What I mean by this is 365 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: if I reached out to someone and said, hey, you 366 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: know what, I know, we haven't talked in a while, 367 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: and I always felt and by the way I did 368 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: this last year, I remember talking to a friend and 369 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: just saying, hey, man, like I think we got distant 370 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: a while ago, and this was the reason I got distant, 371 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: and this is why I felt we got distant. And 372 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your thoughts now. I've lifted the 373 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: barrier that I've placed, and I'm allowing to hear this now. 374 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: Once that person has shared how they feel with me, 375 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: which they did we can now set a healthier boundary 376 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: of how we'd like to deal with that moving forward together. 377 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: And so a boundary is often something you can both build. 378 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: And maybe it's not even a boundary. Maybe it's a bridge. 379 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a bridge you're building and say this is 380 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: when we cross it, and this is when we don't. 381 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: And I think that building a bridge back to someone 382 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: with a conversation is a really healthy way to restart, rekindle, 383 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: or re spark something that was meaningful to us before. Now, 384 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: the biggest point I want to make today is this 385 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: one a sign that you feel like you don't fit in. 386 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 1: The sign that you don't feel disconnected is also a 387 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: sign that you're growing. It's a sign that you're evolving. 388 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: It's a sign that you're moving forward and you're finding 389 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: your way. The difference to know this, to know whether 390 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: you're growing up or whether you're growing apart, is whether 391 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: you're bitter or not. If you're growing up, you won't 392 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: be bitter. You'll realize that person was a season, that 393 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: person was a reason, right, and then you'll grow up. 394 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: But if you're growing apart or growing bitter, that's when 395 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: you're thinking, oh yeah, gosh, they're not the same. You're complaining, 396 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: you're finding faults. You're like, oh, yeah, like they did 397 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: this to me, they did that to me, They should 398 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: have done this to me, they should have done that 399 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: to me. And now we're not growing, we're is growing 400 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: apart from them. So it'd ask you and encourage you 401 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: to think about the fact that if you don't fit 402 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: in anymore, that's okay. We all go through growth spurts, 403 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: we go through growth phrases. I know the plants in 404 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: my house are out growing their pots all the time, 405 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: right They've got to say bye bye to that soil. 406 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: I know nothing about plants, but I know that much 407 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: that they definitely outgrow some of the pots that they 408 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: were planted in. And that's okay, and you might be 409 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: going through that right now. But what we've got to 410 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: be careful of is don't let growing up become growing bitter, 411 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: because growing bitter creates an environment of gossip, of fault finding, 412 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: of complaining, and when we start complaining and fault finding, 413 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: we find ourselves stuck in that space for much longer 414 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: than we ever ever imagined. I hope that these themes 415 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: help you today to repair friendships that are important to you. 416 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: I hope they help you deepen your relationships with the 417 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: people around you, and I often find that our best 418 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: relationships with people are when we do difficult things together. 419 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: What I mean by that is the reason why some 420 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: of our older relationships are our strongest ones, is because 421 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: those people stuck with us through our greatest growth periods, 422 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: our first breakup, our first job, our first redundancy, our 423 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: first child, our first divorce. Those relationships because they helped 424 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: you survive a pain point for you, or you help 425 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: them survive a pain point for them, is the reason 426 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: why they're so strong. Strong relationships are not built because 427 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: you went to the movies together. Strong relationships are not 428 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: built because you message each other on social media. Strong 429 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: relationships are not built because you went to a concert together. 430 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: They're built because you helped each other do hard things. 431 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: So don't shy away when your friends need help. Don't 432 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: shy away when you need help to ask for help, 433 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: because that's when our best bonds are created. And stop 434 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: looking at what people can do for you, and start 435 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: focusing on how much you do for them when they 436 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: need it, and how available you are to others as well. 437 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. To On Purpose. I 438 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: hope you're listening every day. I hope you're listening multiple 439 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: times a day. Remember, we have over five hundred episodes 440 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: of interviews and solos for you to go back to. 441 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: This was on Purpose. 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