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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to the Herd.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm back, it's me Jason McIntyre, join by Rachel Nichols.

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Speaker 4: We survived day one without Colin Cowherd. He is fairly

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Speaker 4: jet setting Rareland. What are you? The key is right

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Speaker 4: now Europe.

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Speaker 5: He's got so many homes Iceland, who hotel?

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Speaker 3: Who knows where?

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Speaker 4: The guy's got a good fight. But Rachel and I

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Speaker 4: hopefully will continue to regale you with fun tales.

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Speaker 3: He gets a great guest today, my.

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Speaker 4: Man Bruce Feldman coming up top a second hour. He's

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Speaker 4: gonna talk Ohio State against Texas in which should be

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Speaker 4: a phenomenal game on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: And then we got Brian Billick, former Ravens head coach.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he's gonna love the Lamar Jackson questions Kenny

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Speaker 4: would a playoff game, the matter, the usual stuff.

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Speaker 3: Listen, we have a great show today and I'm.

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Speaker 4: Gonna start by talking about a list.

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Speaker 3: And as a guy who.

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Speaker 4: Ran a website for close to a decade, I know

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Speaker 4: a good list.

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Speaker 3: Give me a mock draft, right, there's a good list for.

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Speaker 4: You, Top sports movies of all time.

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Speaker 3: Everybody loves a list.

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Speaker 4: It gets people going, it gets them fired up, it

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Speaker 4: gets the engagement going. Right. So, we had a couple

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Speaker 4: dueling lists this week about the NFL, and wouldn't you

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Speaker 4: know it, my main man, Jalen Hurtz was disrespected on

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Speaker 4: both of them. Okay, the Super Bowl MVP, who was

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Speaker 4: phenomenal in throttling Kansas City, scored three touchdowns in that game.

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Speaker 4: I know the defense had one and Mahomes was on

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Speaker 4: his back most of the night.

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Speaker 3: Travis else, he was on.

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Speaker 4: A milk carton. But Jalen Hurts, let's remember, was outstanding

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Speaker 4: in that game. And on these lists that emerged this week,

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Speaker 4: one of them over at ESPN their Top one hundred.

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Speaker 4: They claim it is based on expectations for the twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five season, whatever that is. Maybe they broke out

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Speaker 4: the crystal Ball predicting potential greatness. So Patrick Mahomes is

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Speaker 4: worst season of his career, but sure, Patrick Mahomes won.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody has beef. But Jalen Hurts checked

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Speaker 4: in at thirty eight. What that's, folks, six spots lower

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Speaker 3: So he has a great year. And as the article notes.

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Speaker 4: He had fifteen touchdown passes and ten rushing touchdowns or

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Speaker 4: more right, for the fourth straight season. Nobody's ever done

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Speaker 4: that in NFL history. Josh Allen is working on two. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's how good Jalen Hurts has been, folks. The fact

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Speaker 4: that he's thirty eight on this list it annoyed me

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Speaker 4: a little bit. And then you go into Eagles message boards.

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Speaker 4: I spent like eight minutes that I cannot have back

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Speaker 4: on Eagles message boards. They're really angry about this. But

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Speaker 4: the disrespect of Hurts, I think I have an answer

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Speaker 4: as to why. But I'm looking at this list and

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Speaker 4: I see some guys that are on there. Okay, you

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Speaker 4: It's not a knock He's a really good cornerback, better

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Speaker 4: been in now two Super Bowls already. He's I think

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Speaker 4: And if you want to go Lamar Jackson, I'm not

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Speaker 4: But Jalen Hurts has the single most unstoppable move in

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Speaker 4: professional football, and that's short yardage. You know, you can

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Speaker 4: have the Lamar Jackson highlights, but give me the Jalen

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Speaker 4: Hurts automatic one yard carry for the first down every

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Speaker 4: It failed miserably against Kansas City. So that's one list

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Speaker 4: coming on September first, But wouldn't you know it, Jalen

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Speaker 4: Hurts checks in at nineteen on that list best players

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Speaker 4: a good season in Houston. Now he's ahead of Jayden

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl MVP has done historic stuff on the ground

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Speaker 4: rewatching movies. You win an Oscar, it doesn't get any

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Speaker 4: drilling down. I'm drilling down, and somebody said something smart

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Speaker 4: he's boring, and I keep coming back to it. It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts carries a briefcase to games. He does not

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Speaker 4: Allen had I think the single two greatest plays in

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Speaker 4: a twenty yard scramble that's fun, and he'll have a

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Speaker 4: running for his life, that's fascinating. Patrick Mahomes unbelievable throws

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Speaker 4: Hurts is but the Eagles. Do you guys remember last

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Speaker 4: year's off season two can the Chiefs three P? That

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Speaker 4: heard anything about the Eagles running it back? I look, guys,

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Speaker 4: they're returning ten of eleven starters on offense. Okay. On

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Speaker 3: Yeah, back healthy.

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Speaker 4: Why aren't we talking about Eagles building a potential dynasty? Gold?

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Speaker 4: If you want a fun exercise, Pro Football Focus lists the.

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Speaker 4: The Eagles have to have the most amount of best

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Speaker 4: I hear a lot of this is finally the year

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Speaker 4: I think we're sleeping on the Eagles, who are in

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Speaker 4: let's move on to a quarterback we know a little

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Speaker 4: less about, and that's Arch Manning.

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Speaker 4: The huge Texas Ohio State games Saturday here on Fox

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Speaker 4: football in a while, because it's really the hard launch

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Speaker 4: of Arch Manning. And I said something on the show

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Speaker 3: Can you believe j Max asking this?

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Speaker 4: And I asked our guests Jeff Schwartz, I said, you know,

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Speaker 4: is arch Manning good? Do we know if he's good?

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Speaker 4: Here's what Jeff Schwartz said about that.

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Speaker 7: And that's okay.

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Speaker 6: Still one hundred passes of college football. There are certainly

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Speaker 6: people that evaluate quarterbacks who think he's very good, and

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Speaker 6: they are the traits there that he has shown at

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Speaker 6: big throws, he's made big runs. They put him into

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Speaker 6: surprised he's in this. You know, in that spout he's

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Speaker 6: shown those abilities. Now, of course, it's different when teams

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Speaker 6: on the road with new offensive linemen, the potential's all there.

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Speaker 6: I think it's earlier to say yes or no. People

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Speaker 6: already mocking him to beat the top of the dravelin.

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Speaker 6: Let's not the be all end all, but there's certainly

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Speaker 4: Yes. So essentially, what Jeff is saying is, we don't

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Speaker 4: football's first family, if you will, We just don't know.

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Speaker 4: And I during that interview with with Schwartz, I said, Jeff,

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Speaker 4: times for thirteen yards. I know they love quinn Ewers,

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Speaker 4: and quinn Ewers was a really good college football quarterback.

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Speaker 4: keeping track, if Arch is so good, you couldn't have

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Speaker 3: A passing package for the guy.

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Speaker 4: The defense knows, oh he is a running quarterback, so

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Speaker 4: again it's against like UTSA Colorado State. I don't want

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Speaker 4: to say they're hiding arch, but I do have some

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Speaker 4: mild concerns.

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Speaker 3: What are we waiting for here?

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Speaker 4: Now? On some level, I respect that the Texas folks

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Speaker 4: going to do things differently. Everybody wants to play now.

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Speaker 4: Everybody wants their Nile money now. True freshmen, they want

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Speaker 4: to play immediately if you're not playing me, I'm out right.

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Speaker 3: I get this.

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Speaker 4: Question every year around April May from a college kids

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Speaker 4: who are going to be graduating, and they send me

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Speaker 4: messages on Instagram. Hey j mac Man, you have the

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Speaker 4: best job ever.

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Speaker 3: I'm not lying. I kind of do. How do I

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Speaker 3: get where you are?

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Speaker 7: But faster?

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Speaker 3: How do I get there? Like soon?

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Speaker 4: Like on TV talking about sports and I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: They don't seem to get it.

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Speaker 4: Everybody wants it now, and of course college freshmen they

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Speaker 4: I'm about to unveil my Super Bowl tiers. It's gonna

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. I'm where I've seen these tears.

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Speaker 4: Rachel is very caught off guard and she's wearing Chiefs red.

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Speaker 3: So listen, Bruce Tayler swift Red. By the way, Taylor

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Speaker 4: So Bruce Feldman, my guy, he's coming up in five

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Speaker 4: minutes talking about Yeah, college football, Notre Dame Miami. We

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Speaker 4: shall we all right? Tier number one faux show for sure. Uh,

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Speaker 4: these teams are the elite, the best of the best.

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Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens, no doubt about it, need no explanation. Josh

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Speaker 4: Now the Niners, some people are gonna be surprised by.

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Speaker 4: to the second tier, a little larger, little more robust.

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Speaker 4: The Green Bay Packers. Yes, I have the Packers in

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Speaker 4: I bet the Falcons to win the day Vision and yes,

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Speaker 3: They probably could get bumped up to one now.

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Speaker 4: That staffer's fine, but as Rachel noted, the left tackle

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Speaker 3: Hey, there they are, Herry gou.

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Speaker 4: For now, the Kansas City Chiefs are a Super Bowl contender. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I had them missing the playoffs. Yes, the tackles are

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Speaker 4: I mean, Jalen Hurts just put a number on them

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Speaker 4: final category super Bowl contenders for your consideration, the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: I have them in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Houston Texas. I just don't love them. They got entire

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Speaker 4: new offensive line. Yes, the defense will keep them in gains. Yes,

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Speaker 3: And oh my gosh, this can't be real.

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Speaker 4: And then finally, for your consideration, the Minnesota Vikings. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I'm buying JJ McCarthy and those are my Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: I don't want to go with that if it's not accurate.

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Speaker 4: So let's bring on Bruce Feldman, my guy college football analyst,

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Speaker 4: covers the sport for Fox. Bruce in his just awesome

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Speaker 4: family room there, looking sharp as ever, new haircut, ready

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Speaker 4: Texas Ohio State.

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Speaker 7: Can't wait, Jason.

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Speaker 11: have the Arch Manning factor.

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Speaker 7: You have new coordinators.

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Speaker 11: At Ohio State on both sides of the ball, including

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Speaker 11: Matt Patricia who's never really coached in college football and

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Speaker 11: now he's got to defend Arch.

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Speaker 7: That's huge.

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Speaker 11: You got two other top ten matchups later that weekend.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's.

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Speaker 4: All right, let me just quickly ask about this. Matt Patricia.

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Speaker 4: He is the rocket scientist if memory serves from his

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Speaker 4: days in New England Detroit, Matt Patricia kind of a

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Speaker 4: divisive figure. But as you said, he's had all off

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Speaker 4: season to prepare for Art. He's also got maybe the

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Speaker 4: best defensive player in the country and Downs. I think

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Speaker 4: they kind of bottle up the Texas offense here. Bruso,

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Speaker 4: what's your read on that one.

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Speaker 11: It's going to be interesting to see what kind of

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Speaker 11: answers does he have. Does he do a lot of

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Speaker 11: what Jim Knowles, who was the offense the defense coordinator

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Speaker 11: last year, he did it such a good job for

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Speaker 11: Ohio State. As you mentioned, Caleb Downs, their safety. I

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Speaker 11: think he's the best defensive player in the country. Is

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Speaker 11: just a unique chess piece because he's so smart in

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Speaker 11: what they can do with him. They have two elite

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Speaker 11: linebackers who are really special athletes in Sunny Styles and

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Speaker 11: r bel Reese. The d line is mostly new, right.

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Speaker 11: They have talent there, but it's new guys. The part

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Speaker 11: that I think I'm most curious about in this game

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Speaker 11: is it's not just Arch, it's four new starters on

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Speaker 11: the offensive line. You lost a top ten pick who's

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Speaker 11: now with the Saints at left tackle. It's a lot

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Speaker 11: of new guys and it's a tough road environment. I mean,

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Speaker 11: we'll see how Patricia does, you know, long term this season.

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Speaker 11: It reminds me a little bit of a similar situation

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Speaker 11: Texas faced early last year on the road when they

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Speaker 11: went to Michigan. Wink Martindale, who hadn't been in college.

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Speaker 11: He stepped in it at Michigan and it was a

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Speaker 11: mismatch Sark versus wink Martindale early in the year. Stark's

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Speaker 11: still there is a more mobile quarterback, albeit less experience

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Speaker 11: than Quinn Ewers. And it's also a new offensive line though,

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Speaker 11: and that's the part where I'm fascinated to see how

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Speaker 11: Arch does behind a new group that is going to

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Speaker 11: be feeling its way out in a very hostile setting.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you, Bruce, are you surprised that Arch

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Speaker 4: did not throw a pass at all in the SEC

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Speaker 4: championship game or the two playoff games. They had a

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Speaker 4: couple of running packages for him, but.

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Speaker 3: Not one pass.

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Speaker 4: To me, to an outsider, that's kind of a lack

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Speaker 4: of confidence in him getting it done in a big

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Speaker 4: spot or was there dynamic with Queen Youewers that maybe

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Speaker 4: I don't understand.

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Speaker 7: No, I just think it's in the moment.

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Speaker 11: Look when mid season Georgia comes in there and they

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Speaker 11: are slaughtering Texas, they bench Ewers give Arch a chance.

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Speaker 11: Arch gave him a spark for a second, and then

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Speaker 11: Georgia just overwhelmed him too.

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Speaker 7: I think I wouldn't read.

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Speaker 11: Too much into anything that happened last year with that

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Speaker 11: Texas team.

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Speaker 7: You remember the year before Texas came very close.

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Speaker 11: To playing for the national title, they lost to Washington

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Speaker 11: and Michael Pennix. You know, it wasn't like yours is

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Speaker 11: a scrub. Yours has played a lot. He you know,

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Speaker 11: he he operated well at times in the offense. And

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Speaker 11: I think it was just about like, hey, let's make

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Speaker 11: sure when Arch is really ready, he's ready to go.

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Speaker 11: And I think having it all off, a full off

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Speaker 11: season to kind of grow into this position and get ready, I.

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Speaker 7: Think it's probably ideal for them.

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Speaker 11: But I you know, again, I wouldn't you can always

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Speaker 11: second guest play callers on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 11: I wouldn't, you know, see Sarkeys, it's as good as

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Speaker 11: there is in college football, especially in like third down

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Speaker 11: stuff and different you know things. Obviously you can hindsight

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Speaker 11: is twenty twenty. I'm sure there's a bunch of calls

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Speaker 11: in that game. Sark would have loved that have back,

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Speaker 11: But credit to Jim Knowles, he had answers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go to Miami. Notre Dame obviously a rich

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Speaker 4: history between these two. I'm on the Irish here, but

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Speaker 4: there are some questions about Notre Dame of quarterback. Their

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Speaker 4: defense is stacked Love the running back. Where are you

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Speaker 4: on this matchup?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's not just the right back you're talking about.

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Speaker 11: Jeremiah Love is fantastic. That running back room is deep

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Speaker 11: behind him, JD.

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Speaker 7: Price.

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Speaker 11: They have some young backs they really like. But again CJ. Carr,

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Speaker 11: you know, he's a talented passer, but this is his

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Speaker 11: first big test, right and they're going to Miami and

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Speaker 11: this is a completely new defense. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 11: how it's going to go for Matt Patricier or not.

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Speaker 11: But in Corey Heatherman, we have a much more experienced

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Speaker 11: college defensive coordinator who's stepping in. Miami was awful on

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Speaker 11: defense last year. They were explosive on offense. With cam Ward.

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Speaker 11: I think Miami is going to be much improved this

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Speaker 11: year because of the defensive side of the ball. And

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Speaker 11: I think everything I've heard at a Coral Gables has

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Speaker 11: been very positive on how Corey Heatherman has changed things.

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Speaker 11: I think this is a tricky spot for the Irish.

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Speaker 11: They're talented, as you said, but again, new quarterback, that

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Speaker 11: place can be pretty loud. It's not the old Range Bowl,

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Speaker 11: but ask players on the on the Notre Dame team

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Speaker 11: that got blown off the field like forty eight to seven,

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Speaker 11: like when Manny Diaz was there. That place can get

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Speaker 11: loud in the right spot. And I expected to later

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Speaker 11: this weekend. And again, Carson Beck is now the starter

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Speaker 11: at Miami. There's been a lot of positive reports coming

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Speaker 11: out of there from the coaches I know there.

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Speaker 7: They have a really good offensive line.

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Speaker 11: I would not at all be surprised if Miami beats

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Speaker 11: them this weekend.

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Speaker 4: All right. I got to ask Bruce, You're like, the

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Speaker 4: coach is a positive on corson Bank. Have you ever

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Speaker 4: got preseason negative stuff from coaches on a quarterb Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Definitely, it's you definitely do.

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Speaker 11: But those are the things you shy away from bringing

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Speaker 11: up and saying, oh yeah, coaches are kind of skittish,

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Speaker 11: skittish about this guy. I mean, maybe some of the

555
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Speaker 11: stuff you talk about around it may come up, but

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Speaker 11: there's definitely a bunch of stuff where you end up

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Speaker 11: in the back of your head and sometimes you talk

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Speaker 11: about it. You know, we have a podcasts where we'll

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Speaker 11: talk a little bit more about the stuff I might

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Speaker 11: be concerned about at Ohio State or the stuff I

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Speaker 11: might be concerned about on this team of that team.

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Speaker 7: But you know, you kind of balance and all the

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Speaker 7: information you get.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So does Beck lose the game with a pick

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Speaker 4: or stripsack fumble? How does he blow this one? I

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Speaker 4: just don't have a lot of faith in the guy.

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Speaker 4: And this is coming from somebody last year at this

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Speaker 4: time who was like, oh, yeah, Carson Beck, he's got

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Speaker 4: to be the favorite to go number one in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I know, I wouldn't get so over your skis on

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Speaker 11: the draft component of this, because that's what people thought.

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Speaker 7: And then you know what happened.

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Speaker 11: Brock Bauers went to the NFL and Lad McConkie went

575
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Speaker 11: to the NFL, and the receiving group beneath him wasn't

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Speaker 11: very good and he pressed. I mean, right now, he's

577
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Speaker 11: got a really good offensive line, he's got an elite

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Speaker 11: running back in Jordan Lyles, and they have a lot

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Speaker 11: of young talent at receiver.

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Speaker 7: So you know, again, I know this.

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Speaker 11: The Ravens offensive coordinator, Todd Munkin, who had Beck early on,

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Speaker 11: was very effusive in how smart he is, how quick

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Speaker 11: his release is, and all those things. I mean, look,

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Speaker 11: give a lot of credit also to Shannon Dawson, Miami's

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Speaker 11: OC because going into last year, the NFL had a

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Speaker 11: fifth round grade on cam Ward. Where did the end

587
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Speaker 11: up getting drafted a couple of months ago. First, overall,

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Speaker 11: I'm not saying that it was all Shannon Dawson, but

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Speaker 11: Shannon Dawson the offense quarter and knows what he's doing,

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Speaker 11: and I would expect Carson Beck will have a pretty

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Speaker 11: big year in this system.

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Speaker 4: That's good insight. Let's go to the other matchup LSU Clemson.

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Speaker 4: Another bet that I made was Clemson undefeated regular season. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: if they clear this hurdle or favored the rest of

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Speaker 4: the way, I'm just curious. This is a battle of

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Speaker 4: these quarterbacks who everybody seems to like for the draft

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Speaker 4: next year. Club Nick and Nussmeyer. Where are you on

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Speaker 4: these two heading into the season.

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Speaker 7: I like them.

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Speaker 11: I think they're both really smart quarterbacks. They don't have

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Speaker 11: like great size. Nuss Meyer's more of a gun slowinger

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Speaker 11: coaches kid, you know, I think both guys are really

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Speaker 11: good leaders.

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Speaker 7: They see the field really well. The part that we're

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Speaker 7: going we.

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Speaker 11: Need to see a big step up from them is,

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Speaker 11: especially with aaron Usmeyer, is how they play against ranked teams.

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Speaker 11: You look at the numbers, they were not good. Neither

609
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Speaker 11: guy was really good, but Garrett really struggled. And now

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Speaker 11: a little like arch Manning, he's got an entirely rebuilt

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Speaker 11: offensive line. They had four offensive linemen who played in

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Speaker 11: the Senior Bowl, including you know, the Patriots top five

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Speaker 11: pick Will Campbell. So now you got to rebuilt offensive line.

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Speaker 11: That place is going to be even more hostile at

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Speaker 11: night than what you're going to have in Columbus. And

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Speaker 11: unlike the Buck guys, this defensive line Clemson has. Peter

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Speaker 11: Woods was one of my highest guys on my Freaks list.

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Speaker 11: I think he'll be a top five pick. He's a

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Speaker 11: three hundred ten pound defensive tackle who runs forty five.

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Speaker 11: They have like three other guys on the defense who

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Speaker 11: I think will be top forty picks next year. And

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Speaker 11: then they have another guy, Sammy Brown, who when he's

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Speaker 11: able to come out for the draft, I think he's

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Speaker 11: going to be go really high as a linebacker who

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Speaker 11: can run, who can run like the win. Tom Allen's

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Speaker 11: a new defensive coordinator. I think this is a big

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Speaker 11: upgrade from what Clemson had on defense last year year.

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Speaker 11: I'm a little nervous about the Clemson pick now because

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Speaker 11: now I see that you're on the bandwagon the god.

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Speaker 7: As soon as you said it, my eyes kind of

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Speaker 7: rolled back.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is a yeah, I'm not gonna lie like

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Speaker 4: I've been down on Dabo for Dabbo for a couple

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Speaker 4: of years now, since he refused to go to the portal,

635
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Speaker 4: and then you came on my podcast. You were like, Bro,

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Speaker 4: this defensive line is filthy. I'm worried for Nusmeyer. In

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Speaker 4: the opener, I think he could be under some pressure.

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Speaker 4: So you have Clemson is number one in your college

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Speaker 4: football playoff seatings.

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Speaker 11: Huh, I do you know a couple of things. As

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Speaker 11: I mentioned Tom Allen, everything I've heard has gotten the

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Speaker 11: defense much more in synct.

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Speaker 7: They were like out of it. Last year they had.

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Speaker 11: Some players, you know, some inexperience in key spots. As

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Speaker 11: I said, now, Sammy Brown is a second year player.

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Speaker 11: He was a true freshman playing a lot last year

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Speaker 11: in a key role. The other big thing is when

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Speaker 11: Clemson was winning national titles, they had elite receiver play.

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Speaker 11: That's when even right before when the program started to

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Speaker 11: get closer, when Hodge Boyd was putting up big numbers,

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Speaker 11: they had elite receivers. They dropped off in the last

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Speaker 11: few years. The receiver room is backed closer to where

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Speaker 11: it used to be. You know, Brian West West co

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Speaker 11: is a big time guy. They have three guys there

655
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Speaker 11: who are really big athletic playmakers. I like how club

656
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 11: Nick has continued to mature. He showed sm playmaking ability.

657
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Speaker 11: We saw that at times last year and again, you know,

658
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Speaker 11: they did go in the portal a little bit.

659
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Speaker 7: Or they have a good defensive end they took from Purdue.

660
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Speaker 11: I feel like everybody got a good player from doing

661
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 11: They were awful last year, but still they you know,

662
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Speaker 11: I like where Clemson is now. I would caution people

663
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Speaker 11: on this, Like last year Clemson got blown out by

664
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Speaker 11: an SEC team in the opener by Georgia.

665
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Speaker 7: LSU lost their opener.

666
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Speaker 11: Brian Kelly's never won an opener since he's been at LSU.

667
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Speaker 11: Clemson made the playoff even without you know, like you

668
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Speaker 11: can stumble out of the gate and still have a

669
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Speaker 11: really good season. The thing to watch for for me

670
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Speaker 11: on the LSU. I think Ellish's really talented. They got

671
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Speaker 11: a ton of freaky athletes in the receiver room for

672
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Speaker 11: nuss Meyer.

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Speaker 7: But Brian Kelly's put so much in this game.

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Speaker 11: You know, He's put Clemson Tiger Pauls all over the

675
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Speaker 11: facility just to kind of reinforce how big of a

676
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Speaker 11: deal this game is.

677
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Speaker 7: You lose the game, you do worry about does some

678
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 7: of the air come out of the balloon? And how

679
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Speaker 7: do you bounce back from it?

680
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Speaker 11: They have you not a big opponent the next week,

681
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Speaker 11: but a couple of weeks later they have Florida, and

682
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Speaker 11: Florida beat them last year.

683
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Speaker 4: Yeah, anybody watching? He has his predictions on the screen

684
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Speaker 4: for the playoffs. Seven is Iowa State? Now? Was that

685
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Speaker 4: before or after their win over Kansas? No?

686
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Speaker 7: That was before? Really that was before.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Look, Matt Campbell's a really good coach. When I

688
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Speaker 11: spoke to him for a while this summer. One of

689
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Speaker 11: the things that he stressed is, you know, five years

690
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Speaker 11: or so ago, they had the best season in Iowa

691
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Speaker 11: state history. They finished number nine. Then the culture of

692
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Speaker 11: the program kind of got away from them a little

693
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Speaker 11: bit for a variety of reasons. He was telling me

694
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Speaker 11: and talking to some of the players inside the program.

695
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Speaker 11: You know, he's got rock Obec, Anthony Beck's son, who

696
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 11: is just a gamer. He's a really tough kid. He

697
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Speaker 11: makes finds a way to make plays in the clutch.

698
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Speaker 11: He's just got like kind of the winner quality to him.

699
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 11: And he ended up beating out an elite eleven, you know,

700
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Speaker 11: higher rank to recruit JJ Cole and ended up transferring

701
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Speaker 11: out for the job and hung onto the job.

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Speaker 7: And I think it's a big deal.

703
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Speaker 11: Like he talked about how much rock Obec has helped

704
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Speaker 11: in re establishing the culture there. You saw it last

705
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Speaker 11: week when he trusted his guy on fourth and three

706
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Speaker 11: in a tough spot with a little over two minutes left.

707
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Speaker 7: He went for it and it paid off.

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Speaker 11: And again Matt Campbell over the last couple of years

709
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Speaker 11: has been one of the most conservative coaches when it

710
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Speaker 11: comes to going for it on fourth down, and he

711
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Speaker 11: was like, scrap that. I trust my guys to come through.

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Speaker 7: They did.

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Speaker 11: I'm not saying they're running the table, but I think

714
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Speaker 11: they're going to win the Big Twelve, and I do

715
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Speaker 11: think they'll be a playoff.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Texas Tech in there anywhere, Bruce, that's

717
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Speaker 4: my long shot to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: But I do see Arizona State. We love that team.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback coach Texas Tech. Any thoughts? Can they can they

720
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Speaker 3: sneak in?

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Speaker 11: I mean, they spent a ton of money on the portal,

722
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Speaker 11: they got a big budget.

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Speaker 7: They've upgraded on both lines.

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Speaker 11: Now Quentin Joyner, who was at USC last year, really

725
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Speaker 11: their most talented running back. As we reported, you know,

726
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Speaker 11: a couple of days ago, he's out for the season

727
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Speaker 11: with an injury. That's going to hurt them because now

728
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Speaker 11: they have two, you know, largely unproven backs. So we're

729
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Speaker 11: gonna have to shoulder the load. We'll see how this

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Speaker 11: is going to go. I mean, I think they'll be

731
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Speaker 11: pretty good. I don't know if they to me. The

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Speaker 11: gap between all these teams and the Big Twelve is

733
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Speaker 11: so close, you know, I just think that there's there's

734
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Speaker 11: nobody who has Ohio State, Penn State, you know, LSU,

735
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Speaker 11: Georgia kind of talent in this it's not even close

736
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Speaker 11: like so in here, it's very bunchie. It's like which

737
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Speaker 11: quarterback do you trust the most and which which.

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Speaker 7: Team can just kind of go on a roll.

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Speaker 11: Last year Arizona State, I felt like they fed off

740
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Speaker 11: Camp Skataboo's energy and they went from being the team

741
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Speaker 11: everybody thought was at the bottom to win in the

742
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Speaker 11: whole winning the whole conference and then almost knocking Texas

743
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Speaker 11: out of the playoff. You know, so I like Kenny Dillingham.

744
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 11: I think he's a great fit there. You know, I

745
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 11: think there'll be the other team in the playoff. But

746
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Speaker 11: you never know what the big twelve. The teams you

747
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Speaker 11: think are going to be really good just bottom out,

748
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Speaker 11: and the teams you don't expect much from they end

749
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Speaker 11: up surging.

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Speaker 3: All right, Last one, real quick.

751
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Speaker 4: Bryce Underwood is the new quarterback at Michigan. This is

752
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 4: the kid who got like a ton of money, right,

753
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 4: wasn't he heavily recruited by some some donor? He flipped

754
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Speaker 4: from LSU to Michigan. What's the status on the on

755
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 4: the Wolverines here?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, he's going to be the guy. I mean, he's

757
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 11: six six four two thirty can really run. You know,

758
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Speaker 11: he was the top ranked high school quarterback in the

759
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 11: country last year. He's got, you know, high level playmaking skills.

760
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Speaker 11: Everybody down there is excited about him. But he's still

761
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Speaker 11: a true freshman quarterback. The thing that would that would

762
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Speaker 11: give me pause about him is he's a true rushman

763
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Speaker 11: quarterback and there is not a ton of elite talent

764
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Speaker 11: around him.

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Speaker 7: On offense.

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Speaker 11: He does not have anything close to what Penn State

767
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Speaker 11: has in the.

768
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Speaker 7: Running back room.

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Speaker 11: He has nothing close to what Julian's saying at Ohio

770
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Speaker 11: State has.

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Speaker 7: From the receiver room.

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Speaker 11: You know, the all line is not what it used

773
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Speaker 11: to be when JJ McCarthy was playing behind it. Then

774
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Speaker 11: they had like one of the best old lines in

775
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Speaker 11: the country. I think right now it's pretty good, but

776
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Speaker 11: I don't know if it's any more than that.

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00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 7: Last year it wasn't even that, you know.

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Speaker 11: And by the way, last year they had Kalel Mullings

779
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 11: who they leaned on and really won some games for them.

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00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 11: That guy's gone. I think they're more of an eight

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Speaker 11: and four kind of team. I'm fascinated to see how

782
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 11: he does. You have a new offensive coordinator, Ship Lindsay

783
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 11: comes in. I don't expect them to throw it all

784
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 11: over the yard, but they couldn't pass it at all

785
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 11: last year. I think they will be able to throw

786
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Speaker 11: it some because you have a guy who last year

787
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Speaker 11: they wanted Alex Orgy, who is like similar size, really athletic,

788
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Speaker 11: probably not as instinctive of a runner, and struggled as

789
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 11: a passer, and they did not have difference makers outside

790
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 11: your Colston Levelin was a really good.

791
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 7: Tight end, but he got banged up.

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Speaker 11: It's hard for me to look at Michigan and say, oh, yeah,

793
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 11: they're anywhere near as good as Penn State or Ohio State.

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00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 7: I don't feel like that right about right now about them.

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Speaker 4: All right. Bruce Feldman, Fox Sports, great stuff. He's king

796
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Speaker 4: of college football. Enjoy the opener, Bruce. Everybody will be

797
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 4: watching you and following you online. Thanks buddy, Thanks you

798
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: all right. Great stuff for Bruce Feldman. Now, folks, I

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Speaker 4: don't want to sound like a five alarm fire, but

800
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Speaker 4: we have major seismic news. Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift

801
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 4: are engaged.

802
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 5: Do you want me to do the alarm?

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00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 4: So?

804
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 5: Teenage girls at home.

805
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, people are freaking. My wife just texted me about it.

806
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 4: So Taylor Swift's I guess Instagram post your English teacher

807
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 4: and your gym teacher are getting married with a stick

808
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 4: of dynamite.

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Speaker 3: Congrats to the happy couple.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we'll do a little more on this later in

811
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: the show or the entire final hour. I don't know.

812
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 4: We may have to bump a guest to bring on

813
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: like a wedding plan. I don't know what the game

814
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 4: plan is. There is no playbook for this. But maybe

815
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 4: we'll get Colin to call in and offer his thoughts

816
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 4: on the couple. Remember when people thought this was a hoax.

817
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 4: They were like, oh, this is a fake relationship. Remember

818
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: that nonsense.

819
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, real Swifties knew the truth.

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Speaker 3: They knew.

821
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Speaker 4: Yes, by the way, you and your family, did you

822
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Speaker 4: guys see Taylor Swift out here so far?

823
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 5: Of course we did. I got two teenage darters. Come on,

824
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 5: this is like Target Demo Central.

825
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. I know our audience is like

826
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Speaker 4: ninety percent men, but I'm gonna be real. I went

827
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Speaker 4: to the concert.

828
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Speaker 3: It was fire.

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Speaker 4: It was amazing, the best concert I've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: I would say this for all the guys out there

831
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Speaker 5: listening to this news. This is a reminder to shoot

832
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Speaker 5: your shot. Okay, Because Travis Kelcey wanted to meet Taylor's

833
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 5: he thought she was pretty obviously one of the smart

834
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Speaker 5: most successful women in the world, and went to the

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Speaker 5: stadium during her concert to try to meet her. Didn't

836
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Speaker 5: work out, so instead he went on his own podcast

837
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 5: and put out the call and just said into the air,

838
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Speaker 5: I would like to go out with Taylor Swift. Taylor, please,

839
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 5: I want to go out with you. And it worked.

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Speaker 5: It worked, Jason, Yeah, shoot your shot. It's never too

841
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Speaker 5: long a shot.

842
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Speaker 4: So, by the way, Rachel, our staff is now saying

843
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Speaker 4: that you are wearing Taylor Swift red, which you announced

844
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Speaker 4: in the first hour. I did, and then they got

845
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Speaker 4: engaged in the second hour. Are you do you know something?

846
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: Do you want to tell us anything? Nothing?

847
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about on TV.

848
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Speaker 4: All right, coming up next, we'll just tear up the

849
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Speaker 4: rest of the show and just do Taylor Swift.

850
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Speaker 3: And Travis Kelsey got engaged.

851
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Speaker 4: Everybody's excited, nobody's fired up, and we'll probably talk about

852
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons too, because this is a sports show.

853
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Speaker 3: That's next.

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Speaker 2: One more heard. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day,

855
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Speaker 2: seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search her

856
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: to listen live or on demand whenever you like.

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Speaker 4: Oh, the excitement is just through the roof here at Fox.

858
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Speaker 3: Everybody's fired up.

859
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Speaker 4: Taylor Swift, Travis Kelcey engaged, unbelievable. Oh that what people

860
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Speaker 4: are saying, like this is going to be the next

861
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Speaker 4: royal wedding here, I mean, whenever they set the date,

862
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Speaker 4: I got one of our guys here on the stage

863
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: was like, I know who I'm not drafting in fantasy

864
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Speaker 4: any guy who's ever been part of wedding.

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Speaker 3: Playing kind of involved and you can only do so much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, sure, whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: I do need to ask.

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Speaker 4: So according to the Associated Press, Rachel, Yes, they have

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Speaker 4: been dating for two years. Yes, I don't know how

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Speaker 4: personal you want to get. But before you were married,

871
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Speaker 4: how long did you date the guy you ended up marrying.

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Speaker 5: I'm a little different. So I dated the guy I

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Speaker 5: ended up marrying when I was a team It's summer

874
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Speaker 5: camp WHOA, And then we didn't see each other for

875
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Speaker 5: ten years, and then he tracked me down and found

876
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: me and we dated for less than a year before

877
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 5: we got engaged. So it's one of those things where

878
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 5: because it worked out, it's incredibly romantic and if it

879
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 5: hadn't worked out, the tracking down would have been stalking.

880
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 5: So well, you know, we'll never know.

881
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 4: I was about to say, so, is he a official

882
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 4: stalker or no Facebook or fantastic?

883
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 5: And you know I'm married for twenty.

884
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: Some of the years. That's congratulations. The whole like two

885
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: years seems like OKOD. But I don't know if they've

886
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 4: lived together. I know that the old school.

887
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: People are gonna be like, no, can't live together.

888
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 4: I highly recommend living together before you get married. I

889
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: don't know if these two have because a little do

890
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 4: you want to share any insight onto that one or No?

891
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 5: I believe that they have lived in each other's homes, meetings,

892
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 5: and a weekend is different than living. No, I don't

893
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 5: think it's been a weekend. So they did did you?

894
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 5: Did you listen to the two hour podcast?

895
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: No, my wife and daughter did.

896
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 4: I was just like shocking in from the other room

897
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: watching Hunting Wives on low volume.

898
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Speaker 5: So, by the way, I can't believe you're looking down

899
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Speaker 5: your nose at Taylor and Travis because you were watching

900
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 5: hunting mobs. But we'll get back to that. No, they

901
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 5: were talking all about like what they do at home.

902
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 5: She's really into baking sourdough at the moment. She has

903
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 5: all these nicknames for her sour doughs that he does

904
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 5: this around the house. She does that around the house.

905
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 5: And to me, the most revelatory things she said about

906
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 5: the NFL and how much she's changed as a football fan,

907
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 5: because of course, you know, there's been a lot of

908
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 5: uproar about how much do they show her on the

909
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 5: screen and why is she in my space and all

910
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 5: of that stuff. She freely admits she's like when we

911
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 5: started dating, I didn't know what a tight end was.

912
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 5: And she made a joke that she thought the quarterbacks

913
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 5: actually faced each other on the field, that all the

914
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Speaker 5: players were out at the same time, which I mean,

915
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Speaker 5: you know, it's kind of good. Was in that top

916
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 5: Gun movie.

917
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 4: Right, that's how we talk about you do say, hey,

918
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Speaker 4: quarterback's Battley?

919
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you said Patrick.

920
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 5: Mahomes versus Josh All.

921
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 3: Yes, is whatever?

922
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 5: Anyway, but she has become such a diehard that she

923
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 5: said that she and Travis were in different places during

924
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 5: the NFL draft a year ago and she start running

925
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 5: through the house screaming.

926
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Speaker 3: We drafted Xavier were they.

927
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Speaker 5: And her friends who were over at the house were like,

928
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Speaker 5: did someone.

929
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Speaker 4: Body snatch you?

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Speaker 5: I mean, she's clearly into it and they spend a

931
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Speaker 5: lot of.

932
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Speaker 3: Time together before we get to herd line.

933
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you guys have seen the memes, but Travis

934
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Speaker 4: Kelce has changed a lot in the last like seven years.

935
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Speaker 4: His look, Yeah, he was like me. He had the

936
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Speaker 4: two hoopier rings. He would wear like gold chains. And

937
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 4: I saw a meme that I just started dying of laughter.

938
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: Was Travis Kelce used to look like a guy who

939
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Speaker 4: sold zape cartridges behind seven to eleven and now he's

940
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Speaker 4: marrying the most famous person in the world, and it's

941
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 4: kind of funny.

942
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Speaker 3: Anyways, all right, let's go to Rachel with the news.

943
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: One more Heard. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day,

944
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 2: seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search her

945
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: to listen live or on demand whenever you like.

946
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Herd. In between news about Travis

947
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 4: kelcea Taylor. So if we're going to actually talk sports,

948
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Speaker 4: because you know that's what we're here for, So Brandon

949
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 4: John Machoda Cowboys reporter covering the team for the Athletic Oh, John,

950
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 4: I'm sure you are just loving the dog days of

951
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: August as everybody waits for Jerry to blink with Michaeh Parsons.

952
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: Are you spending your days right now excited.

953
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 12: Phone in hand, constantly seeing if there's anything that's changed.

954
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: No, it's fine. I mean it's not like this is new.

955
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 7: You know.

956
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 12: This is what the Dallas Cowboys do. They've done it

957
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 12: with Dak Prescott, They've done it with Ceedee lamb, Zach Martin,

958
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 12: Ezekiel Elliott as Brian. I mean, list goes on and

959
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 12: on and in the end, what happens is the players

960
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 12: always end up getting their money. So it seems very

961
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 12: ugly to people that aren't around it, and it might

962
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 12: even get uglier than it is right now, But ultimately

963
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 12: Michaeh Parsons isn't going anywhere and he will eventually get

964
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 12: a new contract.

965
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Speaker 7: From the Dallas Cowboys.

966
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird there.

967
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: They made the big splash move going after Pickins, so

968
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 4: the offense could actually be kind of good. I don't

969
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: you know, Dak Prescott, healthy Pickens on the outside lamb

970
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: on the outside, like they could be good offensively. I

971
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 4: just have so many questions about the defense, and of course,

972
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 4: Schottenneimer's head coach, I'm curious where you are was Shoddy

973
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 4: leading this team?

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00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 12: I mean, I like him from a media perspective. He's

975
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 12: very media friendly. He certainly understands our job. But there's

976
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 12: just a lot of questions that I don't think have

977
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 12: been answered yet. I mean, there's only so much you

978
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 12: can get out of training camp. There's only so much

979
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 12: you can get out of preseason games where they're not

980
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 12: really playing many starters at all, and that's really been

981
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 12: the case for Dak Prescott.

982
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 7: For the last four or five years, and so you

983
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 7: really don't know.

984
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 12: And then you match in the George Pickens and how

985
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 12: he fits with the offense. The fact that Brian has

986
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 12: said that he's trying to be as vanilla as possible

987
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 12: at camp and then also in these preseason games because

988
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 12: he doesn't want anybody to know what he can show

989
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 12: on offense, and so certainly it should be a good

990
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 12: passing game. I just have questions about the run game.

991
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 12: And if you can't run the ball, I don't know

992
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 12: how teams don't just sit there and drop two safeties

993
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 12: as deep as possible and say, I'm not gonna let

994
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 12: Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens beat us.

995
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 7: What is your counter to that? And that's what we

996
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 7: don't know yet.

997
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird.

998
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 4: They've moved off of the starting running back maybe three

999
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 4: years in a row. I'm not sure if that's exactly right.

1000
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 4: But Rico had a good year last year and now

1001
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 4: they were Javonte Williams. Listen. I don't know if you

1002
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 4: play fantasy, He's the kind of guy that you pick

1003
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 4: up and then drop within a week because he'll go

1004
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 4: for like five carries for like twelve yards and you're like,

1005
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 4: this guy's not very good. You're right.

1006
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: The run game is a major problem, is it not?

1007
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: It is, and I'm just done that.

1008
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 12: Over these last two years, there hasn't been a bigger

1009
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 12: move to add a veteran running back or draft one

1010
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 12: in one of the first two days of the draft.

1011
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 12: And so as we say here today, Javonte Williams will

1012
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 12: be the starter. So for those looking for who the

1013
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 12: Cowboy starter would be in fantasy, I would say Javonte Williams.

1014
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 12: Jayden Blue their fifth round pick out of Texas would

1015
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 12: be the guy that adds.

1016
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 7: Some juice to the offense.

1017
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 12: But he's coming off of a little bit of an

1018
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 12: ankle injury, and so I don't know how how quickly

1019
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 12: he'll be utilized.

1020
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll get some touches against.

1021
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 12: Philadelphia, but I don't think that he's enough to We'll

1022
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 12: push you Andtey Williams away, and then behind them it's

1023
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 12: I think a little bit of Cavante Turpin. The wide

1024
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 12: receiver might be a little bit of a wild card there,

1025
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 12: maybe two or three touches a game. They will hand

1026
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 12: the ball occasionally to Ceedee Lamb as well, and so

1027
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 12: I don't think it is going to be just your

1028
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 12: you know, solid normal Ezekiel Elliott.

1029
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 3: You know, DeMarco Murray type running game.

1030
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 12: I think it's going to be a variety of things

1031
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 12: that might even include the fullback hunter lipkey.

1032
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 3: It's interesting listening to you talk about some of these guys.

1033
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 4: I start looking at their draft history, and Jerry, he's

1034
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 4: had a couple whiffs in recent years. Huh, last year,

1035
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 4: nobody really distinguished themselves in the draft.

1036
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: Two years ago they did all right. And then there's

1037
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: the Vazzie.

1038
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 4: Smith pick which has been an unmitigated disaster. Like listen,

1039
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 4: I know he's a billionaire, he runs the team, but

1040
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: at any point do you anticipate cowboys brass sitting down

1041
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: of being like, guys, we're going to have to do something,

1042
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 4: or is it there's just no chance of that happening?

1043
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 4: Are drop in terms of Michael Parsons, well, Jerry Jones

1044
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 4: watching every contract, I no, that will never change him out.

1045
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 7: But no, that's not.

1046
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 12: As long as he's around, nobody will be stepping in

1047
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 12: and saying, I mean, we've seen it with.

1048
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 7: This Michael Parsons thing. It was I would.

1049
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 12: Say a few months ago something where I can see

1050
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 12: Stephen Jones being involved. It's done. Now this is a

1051
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 12: Jerry situation. It will get done when Garry wants it

1052
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 12: to get done. So it remains that way. Now, Jerry

1053
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 12: does listen to the people around him, you know, I

1054
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 12: don't want it to come off as like he just

1055
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 12: goes around and he just goes with whatever the you know,

1056
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 12: the last person he talks to.

1057
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 7: There's a lot of rumors of that.

1058
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: Now.

1059
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 12: He listens to people that are around him, but on

1060
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 12: these big decisions, he's he's going to be the final

1061
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 12: say on these things. And so that's why when you

1062
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 12: see the Micah contract dragging out, people often ask me,

1063
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 12: how do you think it'll be different when Steven Jones

1064
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 12: is running the team.

1065
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: There won't be as many of these things. I mean,

1066
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Speaker 3: Jerry has an.

1067
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Speaker 12: Ability to hold a grudge like very few others, and

1068
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 12: where we're at right now with that, I think is

1069
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 12: a great example of it. And I don't think anybody

1070
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 12: can talk him out of it. He has to do

1071
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 12: it himself.

1072
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 4: So he's now going on podcasts. He went on a

1073
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 4: podcast with Michael Irvin. This is an eight a guy

1074
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 4: over eighty years old going on a podcast and he's

1075
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 4: actually seems like he was talking trash about this Micah

1076
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 4: situation with the agent and shoving it up his button

1077
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 4: like it just did not sound good at all.

1078
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: What's your tay?

1079
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 4: Have you spoken with Micah's agent and where's he on

1080
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: all this?

1081
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 7: Not recently?

1082
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 12: No, I don't have much contact with him, and that's

1083
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 12: I think by design. David Mullagetta, who you're talking about,

1084
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 12: Michael Parsons agent, much like Todd Franz. These are two

1085
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 12: of the top agents in the NFL, and Todd Franz

1086
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 12: doesn't do much media either, and he represents Dak Prescott

1087
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 12: and has gotten Dak Prescott two of the.

1088
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 7: Most incredible deals.

1089
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Speaker 12: The last two times that they've gon on to the

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Speaker 12: table against Jerry Jones, they've no question won those battles.

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Speaker 12: And so if you're David Mullagetta, why not do the

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00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 12: exact same thing.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to get in a war of words.

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Speaker 12: You let everything take care of itself, and let Jerry

1095
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 12: do what he does, say what he says. But the

1096
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 12: track record speaks for itself, and that Jerry ends up

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00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 12: paying all of these players. Things got ugly with Ezekiel elliott.

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00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 12: I remember being in Hawaii for a preseason game where

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00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 12: Tony Poward looked pretty good and Zeke was in a holdout,

1100
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 12: and myself and a couple other reporters are standing with

1101
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 12: Jerry after the game and he said Zeke who, as

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00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 12: if Zeke wasn't needed for the team, And then you know,

1103
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 12: you fast forward three weeks later, if that he's signing Zeke,

1104
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 12: and then they're holding a T shirt up that says

1105
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 12: Zeke Who, and everybody's laughing and having a good time.

1106
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 12: So it's like Jerry is fine with everything. Getting ugly.

1107
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 12: The issue you run into is it causes problems for

1108
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 12: everybody else. And the players will say it's not a distraction,

1109
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 12: and the coaches will say it's not a distraction, But

1110
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 12: it's an issue not to have your best player on

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00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 12: the field throughout training camp with the new coaching staff.

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00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 7: And so even if.

1113
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 12: This gets done in the eleventh hour, it's cost you

1114
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 12: all that time when Micah could have been on the

1115
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 12: field with this new defensive coordinator, with this new coaching staff.

1116
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: What about lying on the table. I know it only

1117
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 4: was brief, it barely happened, but it happened. You know,

1118
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 4: everybody wants to make a big deal out of it.

1119
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 4: Schottenheimer getting asked about it afterward. Just talk me through

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00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 4: watching it go down in your thoughts.

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00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, sore.

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00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 3: It's in the third quarter.

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Speaker 12: And another media member mentioned it to me and said, hey,

1124
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 12: look at where Mike is at.

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Speaker 7: And I was like, okay.

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00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 12: You know, of course, being the journalist that I am,

1127
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 12: i snapped a picture with my phone, but I'm like, yeah,

1128
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 12: maybe it just is going to last for like thirty seconds,

1129
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 12: not a big deal. And then a minute goes by,

1130
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 12: two minutes go by three, four or five minutes and

1131
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 12: I'm like, all right, well I'm posting this. Others have

1132
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 12: already posted this. It just doesn't look good. But with

1133
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 12: that being said, even when things are going well with

1134
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 12: the Cowboys and have gone well with Mike in the past,

1135
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 12: he isn't the best body language guy, whether you're at

1136
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 12: practice or whatever. And it was kind of funny that

1137
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 12: Dak Prescott made mention of that yesterday when we talked

1138
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 12: to him about you know, Mikea's body language has clearly

1139
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 12: been that he doesn't want to be at these practices,

1140
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 12: he does not want to be at these preseason games.

1141
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 12: He wants a new contract. And so even Dak joke that,

1142
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 12: you know, it's not like he's ever been the best

1143
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 12: in that category in terms of the body language. But

1144
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 12: it's very clear that that Mike's frustrated and that while

1145
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 12: he wants to be there for his teammates, he wants

1146
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 12: to try and drive this hard bargain that I'm not

1147
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 12: going to be out there until I get this new contract.

1148
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 7: And now you basically have these two.

1149
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 12: Trains headed towards each other, and who's going to give first,

1150
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 12: you know, or are they just going to run into

1151
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 12: each other and it's going to be a disaster. I

1152
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 12: seem to think someone's going to give in eventually. I

1153
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 12: just don't know if it's week one.

1154
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 4: Ooh oh, So you're saying you think there's like a

1155
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 4: maybe fifty percent chance Micah does not play in week one.

1156
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 4: The line's kind of pinballing between seven and six. It's

1157
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 4: at seven now. I guess that's assuming, Hey, Michael Parza

1158
00:52:59,000 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 4: playing week one.

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00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 12: So when I was saying that, I kind of meant

1160
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 12: that a contract.

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00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 7: Might not be done week one.

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00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 12: I think to give you percentages, I would say, I

1163
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 12: think that's an eighty percent chance that Michael Parsons is

1164
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 12: on the field. I think there's a seventy five percent

1165
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 12: chance that it's without a new contract. I think that

1166
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 12: Jerry's pretty dug in on this one. Someone has to

1167
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 12: make a first call. He still hasn't talked to David Mullagetta.

1168
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 12: A deal is not going to get done until he

1169
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 12: talks to David. And so who makes that first call.

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00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 12: I don't get the sense that David's going to make

1171
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 12: that call. And so does this just come down to

1172
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 12: Jerry Jones one night, having one extra Johnny Walker blue and.

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00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: Giving in and making this call. Maybe that's what it is.

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Speaker 4: Good stuff, all right, John, You even know his drink.

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00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 4: John Majoda covers the Cowboys for the Athletic Good Stuff man,

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much,