1 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight 3 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland, presented by bally Bet Sportsbook, an official 4 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura's. 6 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: Live on a Thursday edition of Cleveland Bron's Daily. I 7 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: am merely Bo. Gibbe is here, Hi, g Man is here? 8 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: Duck to Jack is here? G Man A little I 9 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: don't know. 10 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: I think you spent way too much time in a 11 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 3: car traveling back and forth and then overachieving by being 12 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: here so early this morning. 13 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: Because I sent everybody a message. 14 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: I was like, hey, come in around ten, yeah, like 15 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: get in, or like wait till after rush hour because 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: rush hour is going to be a mess. 17 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: Yeah it is. Yeah. 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: This guy text me at seven am. I'm already on 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: the road. He's already on the road a company man. 20 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: Okay. I'm like, well, dummy, that's on you man, be 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: careful out there. Yes, I just was just westbound here 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: within the last hour from east Side on via Turnpike 23 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: and real dicey. I mean it's I didn't go more 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: than sixty. The kind of the whole way two lanes 25 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: for some part of it three lanes mostly two lanes 26 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: were decent, and they always clear the turnpike first. I mean, 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: that's going to get done right, But of course some 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: things go bad. But I've heard and then I obviously 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: was on seventy one northbound and that was pretty dicey. 30 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: That the local streets are dicey. I saw the big 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: accident on ninety. Obviously this morning, it's just just take 32 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: some extra time and just chill out a little bit, 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: Like you'll get there at sixty, not as fast as 34 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: you would have it's seventy five, but it's better than 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: not getting there at all. And just everybody's just chill 36 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: out a little bit because it's it's it's bad. It's 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: not great. No. 38 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: Now the radar is showing that it's supposed to start 39 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: moving to the east and moving out of here. Well, 40 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: however behind it is like arctic, like we've show below zero. Yeah, 41 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: it was supposed to be out, I think I text you. 42 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: According to the Weather Channel, by three o'clock it was 43 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: down to like ten percent. Yeah, that's a whiteout. Still, 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: that's not ten percent. 45 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: We had no names. But if you've listened regularly, you 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: know where my children attend school. And they waited until 47 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: five thirty eight to call it. What are you people doing? 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: I don't know we were I got out of the 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: middle school for basketball practice last night, nine fifteen, nine 50 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: twenty something like that, and I'm walking to my car 51 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: with Beamsy and I'm like, dude, you don't have school 52 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: like book it, don't worry about it, I promise you. 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it was blowing sideways six inches of snow, 54 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: like there's no way. I mean, I drove home. I 55 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: couldn't see the road, there were no lines visible. That's 56 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: kind of where we were at. So it was very 57 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: obvious at that point, like, let's just be proactive, get 58 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: ahead of it. It's canceled, and then people can try 59 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: to make plans. Even if you call it at nine o'clock, 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: there's a couple hours where folks can try to make 61 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: plans for childcare the next day, Like five point thirty eight, 62 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: what can you do? Yeah, you're calling off or you're 63 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: working from home. Yeah, I mean you're having to Yeah, 64 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 2: So just I don't know. That's my piece of advice 65 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: for the explorer. Folks out there like it. Just go 66 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: ahead and call that thing earlier. You knew where this 67 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: thing was going. 68 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think almosteed Falls had it done before ten 69 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: o'clock last night. 70 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how you do it, that's what you do. 71 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: We know this is going to be impossible for our 72 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: drivers to get to the bus garage, let alone get 73 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: out and try to pick kids up. 74 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely crazy out there. So everybody be safe 75 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: and that this we're going to be in it for 76 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: a while. I was looking at like the extended like, oh, 77 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: I know, the deep freeze for the next two week. 78 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: It's gonna be pretty real. The wife has given the 79 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: green light. I think the in laws are going to 80 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: go to Florida for a little bit. Nice may may 81 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: have pushed them over. I was like, say, when can 82 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: we go tomorrow? 83 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: How do we make that work? Speaven in flights, our 84 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: boy got on his they were on it. They were. 85 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: We haven't heard anything since, No, no, we have not. 86 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: He was he was on a plane. Uh Little Zog's 87 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: was there, the Great misk and they were. They were 88 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: headed southbound. But I have not gotten an update on 89 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: on how the day has gone normally. 90 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: Like I I checked the documentarian. Yes, like for any 91 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 3: kind of story, is there anything, There's nothing. Oh, and 92 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, maybe they didn't leave. 93 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 4: No, they know the plane. 94 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: I heard planes. Yeah, I think I live on the 95 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: approach and the takeoff. 96 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: I know they were. They were working this morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 97 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: I think it was just a lay of little bit. 98 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: But then and then maybe that led to chaos down 99 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: there because you're a little bit delayed. But I think 100 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: I think everything's. 101 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: And if you are flying, just be patient. You got 102 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: to de ice the planes. Yeah, then you gotta wait, 103 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: and if you wait too long, you're gonna have to 104 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: de ice again. 105 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. 106 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: Like it is what it is. There's nothing you can 107 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: do about it. Eventually you will get to hopefully a 108 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: better place in America than right here right now. 109 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I always feel like they need however many de 110 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: icers they have, get twice as many. Yeah, that would 111 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: be helpful. That would be the way to kind of 112 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: handle that. So this was interesting. Last night. I usually 113 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: go to bed right around eleven, and so just like normal, 114 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: went to bed around eleven. I always checked anything happening 115 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: in the sports world, whatever. And then this mornings I 116 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: mentioned we got to call at five thirty eight, So 117 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: I'm up around six anyway, so what the heck gime as, 118 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: we'll just stay up and get after it. So start 119 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: preparing my morning show, and I'm looking and I see 120 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: like the shifter news that John Harbaugh has accepted the 121 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: job with the Giants, and I was thinking, to myself, 122 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: my god, he was he were they hammering this out 123 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: at two o'clock in the morning, Like what is going on? 124 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: And then I went and found a time stamp that 125 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: it was actually like his initial reporting was at eleven 126 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: fifty five last night on the fourteenth, was that Harbaugh 127 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: would in fact land with the New York Giants. But 128 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: this thing came together quickly. My feeling of it kind 129 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: of was just doing some of the reading on it 130 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: this morning, some of the reporting on it. It feels 131 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: like they just were like, no, you're our guy. You're 132 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: not leaving the building. Yeah, You're going to. 133 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: Sit with every single person of consequence, and we want 134 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: to know what do you like, what do you not like? 135 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: What do you want to change your franchise? 136 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? Do whatever? And I don't and you should. I mean, 137 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: he's that much of a sure thing to coach for 138 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: seventeen years at average ten wins a year every years, 139 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: crazy stuff. So that was we thought that would be. 140 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: This was something though that I think is a little 141 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: different than what we had anticipated, in that I think 142 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: we all thought that there would be Harball would talk 143 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: to all the openings, which he did, then he would 144 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: decide which are the ones that he was seriously interested in. 145 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: The reporting suggested that that was the Giants, the Falcons, 146 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: and the Titans, and then he would visit with those 147 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: three teams. Most people assumed the Giants were the top choice. 148 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: And there was Jackson Dart at the sideline of the 149 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: football game last week with the mouthing saying Harbor or 150 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: Stefanski's That was clearly the way that they were thinking 151 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: at that time. It would be one or the other. 152 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: But we all assumed that he would take those meetings, 153 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: maybe take a beat, and then next week make a decision, 154 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: and then the rest of these hirings could happen. Once 155 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: that happened, that timetable got sped up by this decision 156 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: happening last night and into this morning, and so now 157 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: you have this one out of the way on a 158 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: Thursday before the divisional round, and now you could have 159 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: some other things start to really come into place next 160 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: week in a hurry because of this. This was the 161 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: first domino that had to fall, and it I am 162 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: not surprised that he took the New York Giants. It 163 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: just simply came down to do you like Jackson Dart? 164 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: Do you like him in the process? Did you like him? 165 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: And we know, you know whatever. Baltimore was on all 166 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: of that. Obviously, he felt strongly about Dart to tie 167 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: himself to him for the foreseeable future. But their young 168 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: talent is pretty loaded, big time playmakers, defensively, some young stars. 169 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: If Dart goes, they can be a contender pretty quickly 170 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: in the NFC. 171 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely in their own division. Yes, given who knows what 172 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: the Eagles are doing. Yes, coming off of that mess. 173 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: The Cowboys are a hot mess. I mean that's in Washington. 174 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 3: You think they're going to bounce back, but maybe they 175 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: maybe they should have gotten rid of their coach, yeah 176 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 3: gone and gotten Harball. So yeah, I mean I think 177 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: it's interesting. Ian O'Connor, who I know, we've had on 178 00:08:54,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: this program and he's been pretty ingrained. He's had conversation 179 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: like with the mera is like this all started on 180 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: Sunday this courtship, and then at some point it got 181 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: brought up to Ian because Ian said, well, everybody says 182 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: the easiest path is through the NFC South, so Atlanta. 183 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the. 184 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: Source told Ian O'Connor, John Harbaugh doesn't care about that. 185 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,359 Speaker 3: He is not intimidated by the NFC East whatsoever. 186 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, And I mean Philly is the defending Super 187 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: Bowl champions are always have been bounced, but they're pretty loaded. 188 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: What I mean this could be a very competitive division 189 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: very quickly. Washington with Jaden obviously in the NFC Championship 190 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: game a year ago, and then Dallas to here. Dallas 191 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: is a mess at the moment, but they still have 192 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: a big time quarterback. They've got weapons, They've got a 193 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: bunch of first round picks because they traded Michael Parsons, 194 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: so they can flip things in a hurry. This division 195 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: could get very interesting very quickly. To me, this is 196 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: a bet for John Harbor as a sixty three year old. 197 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: It's a bet on Jackson Dart. It's he obviously liked him, 198 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 2: and there were some reports that Daboll talk to him 199 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: about Dart. You're gonna love him, like all of that stuff. 200 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: Maybe that happened, maybe it didn't, who knows, but he 201 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: clearly felt very strongly about Jackson dart Well. 202 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: And there were some reports again from Ian that I 203 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: guess Harbaugh called Peyton Manning and said, Hey, can I 204 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: talk to your brother? Yeah, the job, because there were 205 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: a lot of reports that ELI had reached out. Harbaugh 206 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: reached out to ELI to get the scoop on the 207 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: New York. 208 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: To get a little skin. Yeah. Look, it's an iconic franchise. 209 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: They've won three Super Bowls in our lifetime, gibbet or four, 210 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: four super Bowls in our lifetime. Yeah, two with Coughlin, Yeah, 211 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: two with Parcels. Four in our lifetime. And I think 212 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: if you do like that conversation of like the blue 213 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: blood operations in the NFL, they're in that list. They're 214 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: one of those teams and they've won consistent. This is 215 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: actually this stretch that they've been in is the longest 216 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: stretch of kind of impotence they've had. I mean, usually 217 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: they've been in the mix for most of the time 218 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: we've been alive. So iconic franchise, massive market, the football 219 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: program of record in the biggest city in America, young talent, 220 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: I get it, and more importantly, not a big relocation 221 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: for the family. No. No, And I think doesn't doesn't 222 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: he have a vacation place in like South Jersey, like 223 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: the Jersey Shore, like Avalon area or something like that. Yeah, 224 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: people think Jersey Shore and they think like the Jersey 225 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: Shore kids. But there's that Southern Jersey and Kevin goes there. 226 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: There's that or you know that that Avalon area, Southern Jersey. 227 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: That's like a Philly vacation destination. So yeah, I mean 228 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: I think it's Yeah, it makes sense and good for 229 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: the Giants. We're just saying, look, we're not getting him. 230 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: You don't leave, Yeah, you stay here, put put all 231 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: your chips on the table. It is fascinating, like, what 232 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: does that mean, g Man put this in the rundown? 233 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: What does that mean for their GM means he's gonna 234 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: pick players that John Harbaugh wants him to pick. Yeah, 235 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: that's what I would say. 236 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: I don't I think the days of you having the 237 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: final say on things are out the window. 238 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: No, And I I want to say in one of 239 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: the reporting of this, I don't know if it was 240 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: Rassini or somebody had reporting on it this morning, that 241 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: basically Keys to the Kingdom, like makel and I think 242 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: everybody would have done that, Yes, everybody would have done 243 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: that for somebody like him, Like he's just it's that proven, 244 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: all right. A couple of news and notes from our 245 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: side of things. We will reportedly interview Rams pass game 246 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: coordinator Nate Shielhouse and Chargers defensive coordinator Jesse Minter for 247 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: a head coaching opening that will happen tomorrow. Those will 248 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: be virtual, right, yes, yeah, everything in the early portion 249 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: here is virtual. Yeah, I mean Schielhouse is preparing for 250 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: a game on Sunday, so that will happen there, and 251 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 2: then Jaguars office corner of Grant Yudinsky on Saturday will 252 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: reportally submit a request to interview Rams defensive coordinator Chris Shula. 253 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 2: Yudinsky is a name we've heard a lot of a 254 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: lot of people like him. I did not. I'd never 255 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: heard his name said until last week. So it's I'm learning, 256 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: like I think we all are on him. But we 257 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: did find this clip. This is Can you guys give 258 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: me a little bit of a background on this clip here? 259 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Peter Schreger posted it, okay, and just about his background, 260 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: his thoughts and how an offense should work okay, and 261 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: how to explain it. And so remember Jacksonville really caught 262 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: fire after they acquired Jacobe Myers from the Raiders. Yes, 263 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: like he's been their leading playmaker, was their leading playmaker 264 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: down the stretch. So the usage of him and how 265 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: he fits into their offense. 266 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 5: There are a lot of different examples that show his feel. 267 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 5: I think the first one that shows up is kind 268 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 5: of his feel in space. You see some of these 269 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 5: teams playing zone coverage where they have defenders who have 270 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 5: vision on the quarterback and they have different spots to 271 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 5: get to and different landmarks, or they're reading off of 272 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 5: what our routes are to kind of, you know, determine 273 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 5: what their drop's going to be. He has a feel 274 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 5: for where those defenders are going, where they're trying to 275 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 5: get to, and then where his route fits off of that, 276 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 5: and that kind of takes a second and third level 277 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 5: order of processing. Not just to know we tell you 278 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 5: to get to this spot, but this spot is going 279 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 5: to open up because we're telling you. 280 00:13:58,600 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 4: To get to a spot that looks covered. 281 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 5: But if you have a great understanding of what the 282 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 5: defense is doing or what the defense is trying to do. 283 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 4: Then you can run your route. 284 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 5: In a certain way to try to get to that 285 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 5: spot on the field or to try to dictate the 286 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 5: coverage to play a certain way. All right, now, I 287 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 5: run a route this way and I lean out of 288 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 5: but gets that defender to move out and I opened 289 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 5: up my window inside. Little things like that that are 290 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 5: really subtle show up with him when he's running routes. 291 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 5: And then you see it in the run game too. 292 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 5: With my understanding of angles on the block, you see 293 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 5: a lot of plays that he's making getting down, blocking safeties, 294 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 5: blocking corners. I mean, he's blocking linebackers on some places. 295 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 5: And you really can only do that when there's a 296 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 5: physical mismatch at time. If you have great technique, great angles, 297 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 5: you have a great understand of where the run is 298 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 5: going to go, where the blocks inside are going, because 299 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 5: how those blocks distribute will change how the safety or 300 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 5: the linebacker is going to trigger on the run. Right, 301 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 5: because they're keen. He knows, okay, the safety is keen, 302 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 5: the tight end or the safety is keen. The tackle, 303 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 5: the tackle does this, This is the safety's response is 304 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 5: going to be. And because he's responding like that, I 305 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 5: have to take this angle. That's a really high level 306 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 5: series of thought. To be able to go out there 307 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 5: and play fast and execute that type of block for 308 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 5: just a simple run play, but to be able to 309 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 5: process all of that so fast does require really a 310 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 5: special feel for understanding the game of football and just 311 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 5: a feel for space out there. 312 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: Nice Encyclopedia Britannica. Yeah, he's locked in, man. Most of 313 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: these guys now that are in this cycle are in mostly. 314 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: Do we have the full list of of the of 315 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: all the guys we are interviewing, We've asked I will 316 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: have that for you after we talked to Brooke Pryor. 317 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it. I don't know that we have 318 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: any buddy with head coaching experience. Do we have any 319 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: Schwartz as well? Yeah, he's here, Yeah, But in terms 320 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: of outside candidates, I don't think we have. I think 321 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: everybody's would be a first time. It is a mail 322 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: bag Thursday. At is your program? 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Have you ever done 347 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: one of these before a coaching search? 348 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 6: No? 349 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 7: And in fact, I was telling my editor about it 350 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 7: because she said, the last time that you had a 351 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 7: coaching search was when you were covering Oklahoma and Bob 352 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 7: Stoops retired, And I said, no, there wasn't even a 353 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 7: search because literally, in one breath we learned that Bob 354 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 7: Stoops was retiring, and in the next we learned that 355 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 7: Lincoln Riley was taking over. And I believe I covered 356 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 7: Lincoln Riley's press conference wearing cutoff jeens shorts because the 357 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 7: news happened. And I'm like in the car driving down 358 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 7: to Norman from Oklahoma City as fast as I could, 359 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 7: like nobody knew what was happening. 360 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 8: So yeah, I am in uncharted territory here. 361 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: I'm sure you'll handle it quite well as you always do. 362 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: When did you start to have or did you have 363 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: some sort of inkling that Mike making this decision was possible? 364 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 4: You know? 365 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 7: I mean there have been whispers for weeks, right, rumors 366 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 7: that he was going to walk away and do TV, 367 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 7: And you never really know how much of that is 368 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 7: a negotiation tactic for were an extension or whatever. It 369 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 7: didn't feel like it's an extension because he had two 370 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 7: years left under team control, right, But I had initially 371 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 7: felt like maybe there was a little bit too much 372 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 7: smoke with that rumor. I think that it's something that 373 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 7: he had been considering for a while. 374 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 8: But I do think that the outcome of that. 375 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 7: Playoff game was really going to dictate which way he would. 376 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 7: I think he was at peace with it either way. 377 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 7: But once we got to you know, they lose the game. 378 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 7: It was a close game. They obviously were not playing 379 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 7: well in the first half. But I think once it's 380 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 7: snowballed in the fourth quarter and they got outscore like 381 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 7: what twenty four to nothing, and it just it felt weird. 382 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 7: In the locker room post game, kind of just felt 383 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 7: a little off, and I asked him a question about 384 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 7: how what would be his process for determining his future. 385 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 7: This was a similar question that I started to ask 386 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 7: him two years ago in Buffalo when they got blown 387 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 7: out by the Bills and a wild card and he 388 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 7: walked off the podium, And that in itself was an 389 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 7: answer because in his mind, he was telegraphing that there 390 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 7: was no way he wasn't going to be back on 391 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 7: that sideline the next year, and it was preposterous to 392 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 7: even ask him about what his future was going to be. 393 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 7: When I asked him this time, he said that he 394 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 7: wasn't in a mindset to think about it right now. 395 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 7: The only thing he wanted to think about was what 396 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 7: happened on the field, and he wasn't really in a 397 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 7: big picture mindset. And I thought that that was interesting 398 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 7: that he acknowledged it. It was pretty much I mean, 399 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 7: it was a non answer, but it was still an answer, 400 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 7: and that was different from years past. And the next 401 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 7: morning I got a text from a former player who 402 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 7: said that that was the signal to him that he 403 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 7: thought something might happen because he had never heard Mike 404 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 7: Tomlin not include himself concretely in the Steelers future like 405 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 7: there was. He never left that door. 406 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 8: Open even a little bit. 407 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 7: Even if he was vague about other things, it was 408 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 7: always he was included in that future. 409 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 8: So that was kind of to tell. 410 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 7: But that was hours before I started to get real 411 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 7: official word that this was. 412 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 8: Going to be happening. 413 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 7: I can tell you, like, from from there, we thought 414 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 7: it was was coming together faster and faster as I'm 415 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 7: going into the locker room. You know, still nothing is confirmed, 416 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 7: but you know you're starting to keep your eyes and 417 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 7: ears open. 418 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 8: I can tell you talking with players in. 419 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 7: There, they had no idea, even if you know guys 420 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 7: outside the facility, former players. 421 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 8: I had talked with some coaches. 422 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 7: Some people that were just kind of speculating like, oh, 423 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 7: wouldn't surprise me either way. 424 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 8: But I the players were completely blindsided. 425 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 7: So it was it's it's been a very weird forty 426 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 7: eight seventy two. However, many hours we are away from 427 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 7: that meeting happening. 428 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: Brook where the Roonies blindsided. 429 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 8: I don't think blindsided. 430 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 7: Even talking with Art, I mean, he said that he 431 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 7: thought that their meeting they were having Tuesday morning was 432 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 7: to discuss the future of the franchise with Mike Tomlin, 433 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 7: with you know, where they were going to to go 434 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 7: from here, how they could come back from this, and 435 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 7: he said, we wanted to make another run at it 436 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 7: with Mike Tomlin. But he said at the same time, 437 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 7: he wasn't that surprised because Mike has said many times 438 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 7: that he has more years in the rear view than 439 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 7: he does in the windshield or whatever the tomlinsm is. 440 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 7: But he knew that he had more years behind him 441 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 7: than in front of him, and so I think from 442 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 7: that perspective, it wasn't as shocking. I can tell you, 443 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 7: like from covering the end of Bob Stoops and now 444 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 7: the end of Mike Tomlin, the Bob Stoops retirement was 445 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 7: far more shocking to everyone involved. 446 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 8: This kind of felt like, yes. 447 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 7: The players were surprised, because it's kind of like you 448 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 7: know your parents. You never think your parents are going 449 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 7: to get sick, and then something happens and you realize, like, 450 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 7: oh my gosh, they are human. I think it's like 451 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 7: with Mike Tomlin, you never thought he was actually going 452 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 7: to step away because he fought so many times, and 453 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 7: you know, kept coming back and kept coming back, and 454 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 7: finally you know he's saying enough is enough. And I 455 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 7: think that that's what kind of really took them by surprise. 456 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: It's funny from my perspective, over here, I see a 457 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: guy who never had a losing record. I see a 458 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: guy who won a Super Bowl. I see a guy 459 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: or average well over ten wins a year for his 460 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: entire career and all the division titles and all of 461 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: these things, and I understand that they haven't had playoffs 462 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 2: success going forward, But Brooke, from my perspective, to go, well, 463 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 2: they haven't had a quarterback either, And when he had quarterbacks, 464 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: he had success in the postseason. When he had Ben, 465 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: he had a lot of success, especially when Ben was 466 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 2: in his prime. From my perspective, it feels like he 467 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 2: kind of culture tornado lifted up a roster that from 468 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: this vantash point, doesn't look like it's one that should 469 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: be a ten to eleven win team all the time. 470 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: Where's the disconnect between the way I view him and 471 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: the way that the fan base over there does? 472 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 6: No. 473 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 7: I mean, you're you're absolutely right that he has raised 474 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 7: the floor of this team, and I think the fan 475 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 7: base know there. John Newsmith had told me a great 476 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 7: line when I was talking with him before the announcement, 477 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 7: and he said that he felt like. 478 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 8: Mike Tomlin was the fall guy. 479 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 7: That you know, when when a team goes down, everyone 480 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 7: looks to the leader. Their leader is Mike Tomlin. So 481 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 7: the fans then blame the leader, Mike Tomlin being the leader, 482 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 7: he's the fall guy. I think that the frustration is that, yes, 483 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 7: he didn't have a quarterback, but they had an opportunity 484 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 7: to maybe get a quarterback with you know, when Ben retired, No, 485 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 7: that draft class was not very good, and Mike Camlin 486 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 7: is not the sole decision maker, but he ends up 487 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 7: being the face of a lot of these decisions. And 488 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 7: so I think the fan base is looking at that 489 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 7: and thinking, Okay, well, you need a quarterback to win. 490 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 8: Why don't you have one. 491 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 7: It's been years since Ben retired. I think that there's 492 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 7: a lot of He's a victim of circumstance and a 493 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 7: lot of that because it goes all the way back 494 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 7: to I think Ben held on too long. They let 495 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 7: him play a season too long that then backed up 496 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 7: there the class that they were drafting from. Then they 497 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 7: make a bad decision with that, and it shows you 498 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 7: how quickly these things unravel. And you point out the 499 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 7: way that he raised the floor when I look at 500 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 7: how other teams unraveled with longtime head coaches. I mean 501 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 7: Andy Reid's teams in Philly, the last season bottomed. 502 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 8: Out John Harbad. 503 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 7: They have a losing season in Baltimore. It's not quite 504 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 7: the same there. Their quarterback is a different situation. But 505 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 7: still I think that the way that he's able to 506 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 7: raise the floor kind of skews the end of end 507 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 7: of career numbers when you look at when teams decided 508 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 7: or coaches decided to move on in the past. But 509 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 7: I think that fans just felt like it was stale 510 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 7: and sometimes, yeah, winning winning in the regular season is great, 511 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 7: But I mean, you guys know, if in Pittsburgh, like 512 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 7: that's for a guy that said the standard is the standard, 513 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 7: he understands better than anyone that just winning in the regular. 514 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 8: Season is not the standard that the outside wants. 515 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 7: And it's a He's a victim of his own success 516 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 7: in that way. And you know, I'm sure he will 517 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 7: be appreciated more in the field future depending on what happens. 518 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 7: But I think that it took a toll on him. 519 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 7: Even Art Rooney said yesterday he thought the reasons were 520 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 7: more family related than football related. Mike Tomlin's a fighter, 521 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 7: but I think even good fighters know when it's time 522 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 7: to hang it up, maybe temporarily go underground, regroup and 523 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 7: then decide your next move. 524 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: Do you he kill coach again? 525 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. 526 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 7: I wouldn't anticipate it being anytime soon. One thing I 527 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 7: know for certain about Mike Tomlin is that he is 528 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 7: incredibly competitive. He competes at I mean like our press conferences, 529 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 7: he would view as a competition, and his version of 530 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 7: winning a competition is to give us as little information 531 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 7: as possible, and he was really good at it. He 532 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 7: won a lot of those press conferences. So I absolutely 533 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 7: see a world where he steps away for a little bit. 534 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 8: But like Bob. 535 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 7: Stoops, same thing, also incredibly competitive. He stepped way to 536 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 7: spend time with his family and know he never got 537 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 7: back into college coaching, but he was doing what was 538 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 7: it the UFL Like he couldn't stay on the sideline 539 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 7: like these guys like that, when that's all you know 540 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 7: at some point, there's only one thing that satisfies that it. 541 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 8: I do think it will. 542 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 7: Be very interesting to see where he if he does 543 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 7: become a coach again, what opportunity he looks for, because 544 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 7: one thing that he told the players in that room 545 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 7: was that he didn't want to coach anybody but that 546 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 7: group of guys. He doesn't want to coach someone else's team. 547 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 7: When I think about that, I think about the fact 548 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 7: that like this is a guy that likes a challenge, 549 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 7: likes a puzzle. I could see him wanting to coach 550 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 7: a team that did need a total rebuild that he 551 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 7: could really imprint his culture and fundamentals and everything else 552 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 7: on whenever he does want another challenge, whether that's college level, 553 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 7: I would be really shocked to see that NFL whatever 554 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 7: it is. I think he wants just unmolded Clay, that 555 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 7: he could really build his own team in his own 556 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 7: image out of the way that this one was was 557 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 7: made after nineteen seasons. 558 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: So nineteen years and then the other part of that 559 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 2: Brook of course, three coaches and sixty for that franchise, 560 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: and when Tomlin was hired, I don't I wasn't here 561 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: at that time, and I don't remember it vividly, but 562 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: I remember the name being not one that I was 563 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 2: that familiar with at that time. By the way, same 564 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 2: thing with Harbaugh, with the with the Ravens, that kind 565 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 2: of came out of nowhere too. Do you think that 566 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 2: the Steelers have a type they are looking for here? 567 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 7: It certainly seems like it's interesting because yesterday Art Rooney 568 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 7: said that, you know, these coaches, the next coach doesn't 569 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 7: necessarily have to fall within the parameters of the last 570 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 7: three they hired, who were all defensive assistants, all had 571 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 7: never had an NFL head coaching experience, and all were 572 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 7: younger than thirty eight, and he said they don't necessarily 573 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 7: have to be a Mike Tomlin, a Bill Cower, a 574 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 7: Chuck Noll, and then in the first round of interview 575 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 7: requests submitted, I believe it's all but one our current 576 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 7: NFL defensive coordinators. So I don't think they're ever beating 577 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 7: the allegations that they don't have a type. That certainly 578 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 7: seems like there is a mole there, and there should be. 579 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 7: But I also think whoever the next hire is, to 580 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 7: me less I hate to say less important than the 581 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 7: head coach, but like less important than the coach's pedigree 582 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 7: is who he brings in to be his coordinators, because 583 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 7: that if there's gonna be a knock on Mike Tomlin 584 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 7: just from a coaching perspective, I look at his lack 585 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 7: of coaching tree, and I know that's been something that's 586 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 7: been talked about before. But he was not big on 587 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 7: having big personality coordinators that had a lot of control, 588 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 7: like Mike wanted to be the CEO coach, also a 589 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 7: player's coach, like he wanted to be the end all 590 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 7: be all, and it worked. I mean that's his personality. 591 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 7: That's what worked in Pittsburgh. I think that the next 592 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 7: head coach needs to be able to delegate a little 593 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 7: bit more to catch up with the modern NFL, where 594 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 7: there are more on field assistants, where there is more 595 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 7: analytical work that's happening. There's just so many more things 596 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 7: that you have to juggle as a head coach now 597 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 7: that I think you need to be able to delegate 598 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 7: some of those tasks and hire someone, hire people groups 599 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 7: of people that can lead all of those groups so 600 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 7: that you're not taking on, I mean, the incredible pressure 601 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 7: of walking in Mike Tomlin's shoes, continuing this unprecedented stretch 602 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 7: of a franchise not having a losing season. And also, 603 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 7: I mean there's Mike art Roney says he doesn't want 604 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,959 Speaker 7: to have a roster rebuild. He doesn't he doesn't want 605 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 7: to have a rebuilding season. 606 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 8: He doesn't like that word. 607 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 7: Well, then they're going to have to like throw up 608 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 7: foundation walls, roof everything really really quick, because this this 609 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 7: roster is very much in a rebuilding phase when you 610 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 7: look at it on paper. 611 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: So I'm going to get you out of here because 612 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: and I can't appreciate you time more if you take 613 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: away and I know this is part I mean, you 614 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: can't because it's part of it. It's the roonies, it's 615 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: the history, it's all of it, the culture, all of it, 616 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: everything that comes with being a Pittsburgh Steeler. But if 617 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 2: you just look at the roster and you get rid 618 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: of the laundry in the museum, it's a tough spot. 619 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: I think, Brooke, is there a stomach for a rebuild 620 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: like that? To me feels like it is. 621 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 8: Needed, not not from the own, not from ownership. 622 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 7: Ownership said yesterday, I don't know why you would waste 623 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 7: a year of your life not trying to contend. 624 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 6: So good good luck, because. 625 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 8: To your point, this is, this is a roster. It 626 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 8: needs a quarterback. Yes, they've got TJ. Watt, but there's 627 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 8: a lot. 628 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 7: Of cap space tied up in his contract, Tim Hayward's aging. 629 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 7: They've got a really i think solid core of young players. 630 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 7: But as it's been pointed out to me from from 631 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 7: some former players, there's not a whole lot of middle 632 00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 7: tier guys, guys middle tier veteran status, middle tier talent wise, 633 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 7: you've got the cream of the crop, older aging out, and. 634 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 8: Then you've got young guys showing promise. 635 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 7: But you don't have those established veterans that could still 636 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 7: play for you know, four or five more years, that 637 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 7: have already been in. 638 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 8: The league for four or five years. 639 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 7: So that I think that that's what you want to 640 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 7: build your team on, and there is just not a 641 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 7: lot of that. So good luck to whoever gets this job, 642 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 7: because yes, there's I think there is patients from ownership 643 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 7: in terms of you know, Chuck Nol started out with 644 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 7: three straight losing seasons. Obviously it's a different time, but 645 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 7: then he went on to win four super Bowls in 646 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 7: six years. But Bill Cower won right away. Took him 647 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 7: some time to win a super Bowl, but he didn't 648 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 7: have a losing season until four or five years into, 649 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 7: maybe six years into it. 650 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 8: Mike Tomlin won right away, won a super Bowl in 651 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 8: his second season. 652 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 7: But yeah, you're the expectations are incredibly high, and I 653 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 7: don't know that the resources and the roster right now 654 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 7: are in position to back that up. 655 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: I can tell you that if you're still on the 656 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: Oklahoma be you would have been reporting that Jason Whitten 657 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: was hired as the tight end coach at Oklahoma today. 658 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: So just one more example, Bill Belichick at Carolina Witt 659 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: and coaching tight ends at Oklahoma the sports World's upside down. 660 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. We greatly appreciate 661 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: you Brooke anytime. 662 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 8: Thanks for having you guys. 663 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: All right there she goes Brook prior ESPNNFL Nation reporter 664 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: on the Steelers, joining us on the Twisted Tea Hotline 665 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: presented by Twisted t herd iced T, official sponsor of 666 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted Cleveland. Coming up next, 667 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: we'll go around the league, the coaching carousel, and a 668 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: new stadium that looks pretty pretty good. 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Ballely beneficial sportsmanning 678 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: partner of your Cleveland Browns. Some updates from around the league. 679 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: The Steelers, I mean, Brooke was dead on, as you 680 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: knew she would be. But the people that they've requested 681 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: to talk to, primarily for the defensive side of things, 682 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: they've requested to speak with. Panthers defensive coordinator Hiro Averro 683 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: I said that I didn't not love confidently, but you 684 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: know it's Thursday, sure, and then Packers defense coordinator Jeff Haffley. 685 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 2: Halfley would be out of central casting for them. I 686 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: mean that would be that he's got that type of 687 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: juice to him. He's got that he's got defensive vacuumen 688 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: follow me to free him. Great communicator, like very direct 689 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: to me. He would seem like someone that they would 690 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: like a lot in that role. Steelers office coordinator Arthur 691 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: Smith has also been requested by the Lions for their 692 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator position. So that is what has gone going 693 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: on over there. The forty nine Ers, their defensive coordinator 694 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 2: Robert Sala, will interview with the Ravens and Titans on 695 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: Sunday for their head coaching win opening. Rather they play 696 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: Saturday night in Seattle eight o'clock. So's that's where that 697 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: one stands. The Dolphins completed an interview with Halfley for 698 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: their head coaching vacancy, and we'll interview Robert Sala and 699 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: Jesse Minter. 700 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 3: Today and Halfley met with the Falcons this morning. So 701 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 3: the Falcons rifling through because they had Halfley and Mint today. 702 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 2: And them both in. Yeah, well not in, but they virtual. Yeah, 703 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: Mike mccarthur went over Saturday for the Titans head coaching vacancy. 704 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 2: On that side of things, a lot of the same names. 705 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: The only place where we're seeing some names that we 706 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 2: aren't elsewhere is Pittsburgh, and their last two hires came 707 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 2: out of nowhere. 708 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's fascinating, you know. I mean, we're not 709 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 3: in here, We're not going to stick to the template 710 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 3: we've stuck to the last couple of times. Well, sure 711 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 3: kind of looks that way. I think Brooke hit that 712 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: right on the head. Yeah, it's it's interesting that you 713 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 3: and I were just talking about it during the break, 714 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 3: But for a lot of those media members Rebeck in Baltimore, yeah, 715 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 3: Brook in Pittsburgh, like they've never had to deal with 716 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 3: a coach like Rebec and I were talking after the 717 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 3: show yesterday and I said, you know what, when did 718 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 3: you start? And he said, he gave me the date 719 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 3: he goes. The only changeover was Ozzie and Ozzie went 720 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 3: right to their current GM. It was just say I'm 721 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 3: stepping back, my assistant stepping in. 722 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 2: Well just for just for the audience that they understand, 723 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: like from a Beat reporter or like for what we 724 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: do you do, sports stock radio, whatever, But it's been 725 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 2: for the Beat reporters. If you don't have a coaching 726 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: hire or fire. If you fire, then higher or a 727 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 2: general manager, especially the coach though that's the real shakeup. 728 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 2: You kind of have an off season. Yeah, you know, 729 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: you got a few weeks here, whether you much, you're 730 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: probably going to the playoffs, but then sure you're not. 731 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 2: You're not focused on the combine in the draft because 732 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 2: you're picking at the bottom of the first round. No, 733 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you go to those things, but it's not 734 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: like how it is, you know, how it'll be for 735 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 2: us and how it was for us last year and 736 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: how it was in the after sixteen and seventeen where 737 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: it's like the head of all of it, like it's 738 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: not doesn't have that feel at all, and and so 739 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: you get like your team like let's say, let's say 740 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: Harbass stays, so z Rebec would have been off essentially 741 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: once Harbas stays, there's really no news out of Baltimore 742 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: until the Combine. Yep, So he'd basically have a month 743 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: and a half to kind of he'll write some stories 744 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 2: here and there, but he's not having to be up 745 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: at dawn siege on the phone NonStop trying to try 746 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 2: down who they're going to hire or not. So we'd 747 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: had all that time off until the combine, which is 748 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: third or fourth weekend and last weekend in April, and 749 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 2: then you would have had free agency middle of March, 750 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 2: and then you get to the draft. And but I 751 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 2: mean it's kind of now with a coaching change, he's 752 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 2: on this until they hire a coach. Yeah, just like 753 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: we all are. Then you got combine. Then so's a combines, 754 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 2: Then you got free agency, and then you get the 755 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 2: extended voluntary, the incented off season because of a coaching change. Yeah, 756 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 2: which I believe ours can start the day after Easter, Okay, 757 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: So basically yeah, yeah, I mean, so you're gonna have 758 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 2: your off season program then, and last year for US, 759 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 2: I think that went into the second week of June. 760 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 2: That's a two and a half month off season program. 761 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 2: Our off season program last year started the week of 762 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 2: the draft. Yeah, and then. 763 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 3: Remember we had availability on that Monday. We're like, we 764 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 3: don't need this this week, right, he ended it last week. 765 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 2: But that was that was May. That was one month. Now, 766 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: if you with a coaching change, it's two it's two. Yeah, 767 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 2: that's a big change. Yeah, I mean that for the 768 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 2: for for for everybody on. 769 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 3: Those two beats, it's that's a lot of change. 770 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 2: It sure is, Yeah, it sure is. And that Pittsburgh 771 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: job is that's an interesting job. Man, a museum selling 772 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: museum and you're selling the culture and you're selling Renegade 773 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: and all of that. But by roster play Renegade Monday night? 774 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: Did you know that? I did not know that. 775 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 3: They did not play it, And no one knows when 776 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 3: the last time was that actually happened. 777 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 2: When do they normally play it in the start of 778 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: the fourth and. 779 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 3: Somewhere in the early fourth quarter when they start getting momentum, 780 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: which in the fourth quarter there, so. 781 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 2: There just wasn't a chance to play it because they 782 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 2: had the they had the fumble return right away in 783 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: the fourth right. Yeah, the fumble touchdown, so they just 784 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 2: never had a chance to play it. They always want 785 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: to play it when they're on defense. So yeah, yeah, 786 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 2: I mean that's what you're selling because I I mean, 787 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 2: I I've thought about this a lot since Tomlin stepped down. 788 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 2: It's like, what young building block are you building around, 789 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 2: who's like your guys that you're going for. We hear 790 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 2: you on it there, g Man, I hear you going. 791 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: Will Howard in the background just spout talking about Will Howard. 792 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 2: I like Will Howard a lot, but you better be 793 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 2: able to drive the football in the wind, because that's 794 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 2: what you're signing up for to play in that operation. 795 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a I just think that fan base 796 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 2: has never had to go through it. They've never had 797 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 2: to do a reset. And when Art Rooney says, we 798 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: don't reset, I don't know why you'd waste a year 799 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 2: trying not to contend. I don't see a path for 800 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 2: them to contend next year. 801 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: Here's the And I am never in favor of tanking 802 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 3: or anything like that, but you got to pick a 803 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 3: little bit better than eighteen to twenty two, which is 804 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 3: usually where they've been for the last eight years. 805 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean and to Butcher's your point, gibe. 806 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,479 Speaker 2: If you just look at the team still playing, Nix 807 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 2: was drafted win ten tenth, so yeah, somewhere in the 808 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 2: top ten. Josh Allen's in the top ten. Drake May 809 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 2: was third, CJ. Stroud was second, So those are all 810 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: top ten picks. Sam Donald was picked third or second 811 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 2: when Bake went one, see second. I think he was second. 812 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 2: Party was last. So there's your outlier. Caleb went number 813 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 2: one overall and Stafford went number one overall. So of 814 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 2: the of the eight teams still playing, one is the outlier. 815 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 2: That's brock Perty. And by the way, in that same 816 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 2: draft they traded up to take Trey Lance I believe 817 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 2: at number two, So that was in that same draft 818 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 2: they lucked into Perty completely. But the other seven of 819 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: the other eight, now in the case of Donald, he's 820 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 2: on what is fifteen or whatever, But nevertheless they were 821 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 2: all blue blood quarterbacks coming out of he out of college. 822 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Donald went number three. Barkley Saquon Barkley went number. 823 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: Two, that's right. 824 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh Allen went seven, and Josh Rosen went tenth. 825 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: Josh Rosen went tenth. I believe Lamar at the end 826 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 2: of that he was thirty two. God, yeah, that's unreal. Yeah, 827 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 2: you can do it. It's just really hard. I mean, 828 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurst was a second rounder like everybody knows. Tom 829 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: Brady was a sixth like everybody knows. The stories, But 830 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 2: by and large, it's it's top of the draft stuff 831 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: when you're when you're trying to win, yeah, and land 832 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 2: those franchise quarterbacks, trying to lock those guys in. We 833 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: also in the in the business of new stadium renderings, 834 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders dropped their new stadium rendering this morning. 835 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 2: There you get, if you're watching on the YouTube, you 836 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 2: get to look at it. I mean, it looks like 837 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 2: a monument, honestly, and it leads right into the monuments. 838 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 2: It's stunning. It's at the RFK site. It kind of 839 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 2: has that shape of RFK that RFK had, which I 840 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 2: think is really cool of them. And then it did 841 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 2: which a lot of these are doing, which is they 842 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 2: they saw that Minnesota model. We saw that Minnesota model. Folks, 843 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 2: if you've not been to Minnesota for a game, and 844 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: a great many you probably have not. When you go 845 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: to a game there and you see what they did, 846 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: it's just the truest sense of the word awesome. And 847 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 2: the natural light coming in it's just so cool. And 848 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 2: so that's what they're going for. And I know the 849 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: rams seadiums like that too, So this one's going to 850 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: have like a kind of a clear ceiling on it, 851 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 2: similar to the one we're going to have, and so 852 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 2: with that comes natural light and ambience. Yeah, I mean, 853 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 2: I think the thing looks great. It's going to be 854 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 2: really cool to see them back in the inside the district. 855 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 2: Go ahead and uber, because I don't see anywhere where 856 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 2: you're parking. It's a good question. I mean, that's yeah, 857 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: it looks like it's do you know that air I've 858 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 2: been I've driven by it on the beltway. 859 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 3: I've seen it on the beltways. That's exactly right. 860 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 2: But I don't know, like, what's you know in the visius, 861 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 2: Like where are they going to have the tailgating set up? 862 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: I don't know where that happens. It's a massive sight though. 863 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I mean here's the problem. You've 864 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 3: got to tear that thing down. Yeah, Like so then 865 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 3: you've got to tear it down, and you've got to 866 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 3: get rid of everything, right, and then you've got to 867 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 3: start a building again, whereas you know, with our situation 868 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 3: and with Buffalo, you know, it's stuff's torn down. 869 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, just build it straight up, right, Yeah, I mean 870 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 2: that's how long is this going to take? I'll tell 871 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 2: you what. If they have a window on the other 872 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 2: end of that stadium that looks towards the cattle in 873 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 2: the Washing Monument, that is going to be money. That's 874 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: very cool. That would be the that should be their 875 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 2: club level. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, that's that's going to 876 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 2: be very cool, very cool. So we've got Buffalo's opening 877 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: next year. We're twenty nine, yes this one. Is there 878 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 2: a date on this one? Twenty thirty? J Max seem 879 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 2: to think, okay, okay, is there anybody else that's doing 880 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 2: this that's that I'm not thinking of. Oh, Chicago's gonna 881 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 2: have to do it. 882 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, wherever wherever they're going to do it. Yeah, 883 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know what's going on 884 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 3: with that. Well, you got Kevin Warren in Church. I'm 885 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 3: sure it'll'll be fine. 886 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 6: Uh. 887 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 2: It all went so well when he's running the Big ten. 888 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah you had that right, Yeah, you've been all over that. Jeez. 889 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 6: Yeah. 890 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 3: So high Mark opens in twenty twenty six for the Bills. 891 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,959 Speaker 3: The new Nissan Stadium for Tennessee opens in twenty seven. 892 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 2: Oh, that's right now, it's cool. Yeah, So you're gonna 893 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,919 Speaker 2: have a lot of new Super Bowl sites. Yeah, because 894 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 2: they're gonna give one to Tennessee for sure. Nashville's ready 895 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 2: for that, primed for it. I'm sure we'll get a 896 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 2: Super Bowl at some point. And then who's the other ones? 897 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 2: Then Wash Washington for sure, Chicago will get one if 898 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 2: they watched. 899 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 3: Aiming for a twenty thirty opening. The Chiefs are planning 900 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,399 Speaker 3: and moved to a new Dome Stadium in Kansas thirty one. 901 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 2: That's right. Wow, this is going to be a massive 902 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 2: The last time we had something like this was in 903 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 2: the seventies when they built like all the cookie cutter stadiums, 904 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 2: Three Rivers, river Front, all of those were built, you know, 905 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 2: around that time. Old Bush Stadium in Saint Louis, they 906 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 2: were all built, Multi use veteran stadium in Philly, the 907 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 2: Meadowlands like they were. All those were all built in 908 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,280 Speaker 2: the seventies. And so now we're getting this massive building 909 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 2: push that's happening in uh here over the next couple years, 910 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 2: which will be exciting. 911 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 9: You know. 912 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 2: There's one other one on here that I'm like, whatever 913 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 2: happened to this? What's that? 914 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 3: The Jaguars Stadium of the Future under construction for an 915 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 3: August twenty twenty eight grand opening. Do you remember that 916 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 3: whole thing with Urban Meyer and the whole downtown we're 917 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 3: recreating because like Lake, the whole waterfront went away, the 918 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 3: river front all went away. 919 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got rid of the landing, right. I'ven't been 920 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 2: down there a long time, but they used to have 921 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 2: Jack's Landing and now that's all gone gone. Okay. I 922 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 2: do remember that. I remember him in press conferences talking 923 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 2: like he was a college coach about building facilities. Yeah, 924 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: and they were building like a four seasons that they 925 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: were going to build in Jacksonville, which makes no sense. 926 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 2: I've heard nothing. There was nothing on the broadcast over 927 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 2: the weekend. Well, no, they are moving because they're going 928 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 2: to play in Orlando, aren't they. So they are going 929 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 2: to do something. I don't know if they're doing it 930 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: to start from scratch stadium or if they're just renovating 931 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 2: the current one, but they are doing something because they 932 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 2: have fit made it official they're going to play in Orlando. 933 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 2: We were talking about that, whether they should play in 934 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 2: Gainesville or whether they're Yeah, they was talked that they 935 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 2: were going to play in the swamp in Gainesville, but 936 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 2: instead they're going to go down to Orlando. I think 937 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 2: we're at UCF Stadium and play for a couple of years. 938 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 3: Construction begins began last February, so it's renovation. 939 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 2: It's a renovation, not a start over. Yeah. 940 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 3: So the Jags play in Jacksonville in twenty twenty six 941 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 3: with a reduced capacity. In twenty seven, they'll play one 942 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 3: season away from Jacksonville, and then August of twenty eighth 943 00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:59,720 Speaker 3: the stadium in the future. 944 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 2: Okay, are they putting us a roof on it too? 945 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 2: That's a think you would there. I mean it says 946 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,359 Speaker 2: climate control, so oh, I guess they are. They would 947 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 2: be smart to do it like LA, where it's like 948 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 2: it's got a roof on it, but it's open air. 949 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 2: It's a canopy structure, so they provide a protective show. Yeah, 950 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 2: there's your there's your LA example there like so far, 951 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 2: all right, there you go. It's a mail bag edition 952 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 2: of the program. Get your questions in for us. We 953 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 2: will we will get to those coming up here in 954 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 2: the second hour of the program. 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I mean, I think Bobishop's former intern works. 974 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 2: Maybe that's all that's necessary. Brown's analyst co host of 975 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 2: T Bone and Tyvus on the fan down in Columbus 976 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 2: from six to nine. There it is, GMN put it 977 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 2: at the end. How about that Bob Bishop's former intern 978 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 2: Tymas Powell, how are you, buddy? 979 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 6: It was so funny that you have to say it 980 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 6: twice the emphasize. 981 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right achievement. 982 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 6: I was looking at the post on on Twitter or 983 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 6: X today of you threes dom at the National Championship. 984 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 4: Game, malcome to you with the clean shave man. 985 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 6: I was like, look at Bo, he's out of control. Now. 986 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 2: Well, so that's eleven years ago, and I had to 987 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 2: shave every single day for TV because in those days 988 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 2: you couldn't have a beard on television. You couldn't so 989 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 2: you had to be slicked up all the time. And 990 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 2: so as soon as I got into doing TV all 991 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 2: the time, I'm like, I'm done shaving. I'm sick of 992 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 2: it now. What I don't know if the audience knows, 993 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 2: of course, with your with your Afternoon Adventures, folks who 994 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 2: view that would be able to know you recently have 995 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 2: been slicked up as well. 996 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 6: I mean you didn't w oh, I did it one time. 997 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,240 Speaker 6: So this is what happened. The lieutenant aka my wife, 998 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,760 Speaker 6: she wanted to see what I would look like because 999 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 6: she has never seen me without my beard, so she's like, 1000 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 6: I always wonder what you would look like. So I said, 1001 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 6: you know what, one day, I was in there and 1002 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 6: I was trying to line my beard up and I 1003 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 6: took it a little too thin on one side. So 1004 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 6: I said, well, at this point, I messed up, so 1005 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 6: I might as well give her what she wants. I 1006 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 6: messed up, but I'll just say I'm doing it to 1007 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 6: give her what she wants. So that land to me 1008 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 6: shaving the whole thing down, saving it off. 1009 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 2: And if you haven't seen Tyvus when he was slicked up, 1010 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 2: just picture Marcus Graham from Boomerang. That's basically what it works. 1011 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,439 Speaker 2: Did she did your Did the lieutenant think that as well? 1012 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 2: Did you get up, Marcus Starling? Did you give any 1013 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 2: of those? 1014 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 6: She didn't quite hit me with the Lady Elouise, but 1015 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 6: she definitely did enjoyed the look. And I told her, 1016 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 6: you're kissing goodbyes. I happened I eat my beer. 1017 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 2: Hey man, this is we got we got a lot 1018 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 2: of I mean, we got nine jobs opening. We've got 1019 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 2: Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Although both of those jobs are open, 1020 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 2: they haven't been open in terms of both of them 1021 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 2: haven't been open in our lifetime. They the last time 1022 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 2: that both those teams made coaching changes was nineteen years ago. Like, 1023 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 2: the AFC North is going to look completely different going forward. 1024 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 2: What did you make Let's start there, what did you 1025 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 2: make of Baltimore choosing to move on from Harbaugh who 1026 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,280 Speaker 2: landed in New York this morning, and then Tomlin choosing 1027 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 2: himself to leave Pittsburgh. 1028 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, the Baltimore one. I was shocked by that because 1029 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,760 Speaker 6: going into this season, everybody picked Baltimore to win the division, 1030 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 6: you know, and I thought that they just got a 1031 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 6: rough deal of injuries. I thought it was a lot 1032 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 6: of key guys that got hurt in this season and 1033 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 6: it kind of led to this off season. And then 1034 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 6: you hear about the stuff in the locker room, where 1035 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 6: you know, Lamar is telling them to take the TVs 1036 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 6: and the ping pong tables out and all of those things, 1037 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 6: and it's like, what does that have to do with it? 1038 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 6: Then you would think that they would be locked in, 1039 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 6: and he said he did it because he wanted them 1040 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 6: locked in. And now you start to hear stories about 1041 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 6: Lamar and being not this lazy guy who only wants 1042 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 6: to play video games, and him and John Harbaugh's relationship 1043 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 6: kind of soured. So it's just a whole bunch of stuff. 1044 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 6: And I think that it's Baltimore looking for answers. I 1045 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,399 Speaker 6: think that, you know, after eighteen years, you know, John 1046 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 6: Harbaugh has done a wonderful job, but sometimes it's just 1047 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 6: you just need a new voice in the locker room, 1048 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 6: you know. And I think that's where they got with it. 1049 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 6: I think John is an exceptional coach. I think that 1050 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 6: their roster is talent talented. I just think that, you know, 1051 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 6: the relationship is kind of souring, and they just needed 1052 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 6: to see a new voice in there, so they made 1053 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 6: the decision to move on Mike Tomlin leaving Pittsburgh. Now, 1054 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 6: the Pittsburgh fans, I get it. I understand they're like, 1055 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 6: you know, we get to the playoffs, yay, but we 1056 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 6: lose in the first round. I still believe if you 1057 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 6: give Mike Tomlin the quarterback in Pittsburgh, they can get 1058 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 6: past the first round. I really, do you know, and 1059 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 6: they really struggled to find somebody to replace Big Ben. 1060 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 6: Obviously they did to reach for Kenny Pickett and things 1061 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 6: didn't work out there, and ever since then, it's just 1062 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 6: been a quarterback carousel. So I think Mike Tomlin is 1063 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 6: an excellent coach. I really do. I mean, if you 1064 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 6: listen to players just talk about him and how he 1065 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 6: talks to him and get these guys motivated to play. 1066 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 6: And you know, you watched The Hard Knocks last year 1067 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 6: and see how he got teams motivated to play like 1068 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 6: that was a guy that I feel like a lot 1069 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 6: of players have respect for and could play for. So 1070 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 6: I really didn't like the fact that they moved on 1071 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 6: from him, But I get it. You know, you want 1072 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 6: something different there, and you know, sometimes you got to 1073 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 6: you gotta see how good you have it. Hopefully you 1074 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 6: know the next guy that they get gets the quarterback, 1075 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 6: because in this league that's the most important part. Can 1076 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 6: you get the quarterback? And Mike Tomlin just couldn't find that. 1077 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1078 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 2: I just talked about exactly that with Brooke Pryor from ESPN, 1079 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 2: who was on with this Last Hour Buddy, and I said, 1080 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 2: I go, look to me. He elevated rosters that were inferior. 1081 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 2: I didn't see. I didn't think he was blowing anything 1082 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,800 Speaker 2: in terms of of missing opportunities or anything like that, 1083 00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 2: just from the standpoint of they haven't had the quarterback position. 1084 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,799 Speaker 2: When he had a quarterback who was good, they were 1085 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 2: super Bowl contenders. When he hasn't, they're not, but somehow 1086 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 2: they still win. So I think that jobs is going 1087 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 2: to be a very interesting one as they attempt to 1088 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,959 Speaker 2: fill it and and and then does that fan base 1089 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 2: have patients for a build like a true rebuild. I mean, 1090 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,919 Speaker 2: they haven't done that in so very very long of course, 1091 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 2: go ahead. 1092 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,280 Speaker 6: The fans don't have The fans might not have a patience, 1093 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 6: but ownership has shown that they have the patience. You know, 1094 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,240 Speaker 6: this will be the fourth hire in the organization history, 1095 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 6: so they have a long leash. Whoever they decide to 1096 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 6: go with. He has a very long leash. They got 1097 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 6: to find a way to get that quarterback though. 1098 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 2: If you were you and we haven't talked on this 1099 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 2: show since the Browns moved on from Kevin Stefanski, and 1100 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 2: we're conducting these interviews now and we've got people coming 1101 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 2: in and not this week, but next week, we'll have 1102 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 2: people coming into the building for interviews and stuff. As 1103 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 2: you look at at this job that is open here 1104 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 2: and you think about the two first round picks, you 1105 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 2: think about, you know, very good rookie class that was there. 1106 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 2: Another obviously, you have opportunities in the in the twenty 1107 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 2: twenty seven drafts as well to kind of rebuild this 1108 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 2: thing on the fly. What are the positive attributes that 1109 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 2: you see with this Brown's job. From four potential NFL 1110 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 2: coaching candidates. 1111 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 6: The defenses is phenomenal. Top defense in the league. You're 1112 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,399 Speaker 6: walking into an organization that has a defense already ready 1113 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 6: to go their number. They were went top five, top 1114 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 6: three this year total defense. So you have that now 1115 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 6: everybody knows that defense win championship. Bo I didn't make 1116 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 6: those rules. Those were already in play before I was born. 1117 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 6: You already have the defense obviously. You know on the 1118 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,800 Speaker 6: offensive side of the ball, you got some young pieces, 1119 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 6: Quinn Shawe, Juckins get healthy again. You got the running back. 1120 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,880 Speaker 6: You got a hero Fannig, a great tight end weapon 1121 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 6: that can be an X factor that's shown that if 1122 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 6: need be, he can take a game over. You know, 1123 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 6: he was the guy that all these defenses by the 1124 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 6: end of the season was like, we have to stop 1125 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 6: number forty four. So you have that going. I think 1126 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,399 Speaker 6: that those and you just got a young group guys, 1127 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,399 Speaker 6: Your core guys that you you drafted last year seem 1128 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 6: to be all heading in the upward trajectory there. So 1129 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 6: you have a good young group core guys that you 1130 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,399 Speaker 6: can build off. You need. Obviously, you got to fix 1131 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,320 Speaker 6: that offensive line and you have to find out what 1132 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 6: you got in your door or whatever you get, you're 1133 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 6: gonna do at the quarterback position. I think that that 1134 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,359 Speaker 6: will be the challenges. But I think there's those those 1135 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 6: are the positives. I tell you what, when you look 1136 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 6: at Pittsburgh, how great Pittsburgh is, I don't it's not 1137 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,240 Speaker 6: that big of a difference between Pittsburgh and the Browns 1138 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 6: to me. I mean, I think the when you look 1139 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 6: at the Steelers, uh, their roster there, their guys are old. 1140 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 6: You're trying to figure out what TJ. Watt's gonna do. 1141 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 6: You're still looking for the quarterback. You know, obviously you 1142 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 6: got Jalen Warren and DK Metcalf on the offensive side 1143 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 6: of the ball, But outside of that, it's not really 1144 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 6: a whole lot to work with there. So it's really 1145 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,280 Speaker 6: you're really flipping a coin between the Browns and the Steelers. 1146 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,320 Speaker 6: As far as how attractive that job looks as a 1147 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 6: head coach. 1148 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you separate the museum and the 1149 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 2: history from Pittsburgh, it's really tough. I think it's Arizona bad. 1150 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,800 Speaker 2: I think it's you don't have quarterback, you don't have assets, 1151 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 2: you have young building blocks. You don't have, like you 1152 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 2: mentioned here, that top three defense. You don't have a 1153 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 2: rookie class that you can kind of build around that 1154 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,320 Speaker 2: appears that maybe we have here with guys like Swessinger 1155 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 2: and Fannin and those type of guys, even Mason Graham 1156 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 2: who came on as the season went a long. I 1157 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 2: think it's a very very difficult job. And you know, 1158 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 2: I from your vantage point, what type of coach should 1159 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 2: they be looking for here? 1160 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 6: I keep going back and forth with just because I 1161 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 6: understand that we are we as a fan base, and 1162 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 6: you know, people that just enjoy football. We're so in 1163 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 6: lamored with the story of the young, offensive minded head coach, 1164 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 6: the guy that's thirty five that just can call offense. 1165 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 6: You know, we love the Sean McVay and how Kyle 1166 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 6: Shanahan like those type of guys. But when I look 1167 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 6: at this brown see, I feel like we just moved 1168 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 6: off of that. I feel like Kevin Stefanski was granted 1169 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 6: his first four years was successful. Yeah, he went to 1170 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 6: had two playoff appearances, had a playoff win, so it worked. 1171 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 6: But I think you have to expand off of that. 1172 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 6: I think if you really wanted that, you could have 1173 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 6: kind of kept the guy that you had, So I 1174 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 6: think you have to go into a different direction. I 1175 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 6: think that they need a leader of men. I really do. 1176 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 6: I think at some point, I just think the one 1177 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 6: thing that you just hear little stories about the accountability. 1178 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 6: You know, you think about pre snap penalties and turnovers. 1179 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 6: You know, Kevin did is preached about how he didn't 1180 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 6: want that to happen, and yet we saw it. I 1181 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 6: just want to see guys become more disciplined. So I 1182 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 6: think we need a strong leader in there that can 1183 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 6: hold these guys accountable. 1184 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 2: You know. 1185 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 6: You know, the Mike McDaniel thing came up, and the 1186 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 6: first thing I thought about was when Tua stood up 1187 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 6: on that podium and said, guys are late to meetings 1188 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 6: and guys are not showing their community that I just like, 1189 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 6: I like I like him, like mcdam. Mike McDaniels was 1190 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 6: my offensive coordinator when I played for the forty nine ers, 1191 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 6: so I understand he's a great mind. He's under Kyle Shanahan. 1192 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 6: He runs the same thing, so it's a great offensive mind. 1193 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 6: Can he lead these players? Can he you know, will 1194 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 6: Miles Garrett and company respect what he has to say? 1195 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 6: You like that? Those are the things that I think 1196 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 6: is important for this team to take the next step 1197 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 6: because in order for this team, a young team, to 1198 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 6: really be good in this league, you have to learn 1199 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 6: how to not beat yourself. And I think last year 1200 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 6: we did that a lot. You see quish a junkies, 1201 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 6: rip off a forty R run, bring it back with 1202 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 6: a holding call. You'll see pre snap penalties, You'll see turnovers. 1203 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 6: We need somebody that can harp and get it through 1204 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 6: these young guys' mind, how we cannot beat ourselves. What 1205 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 6: made the Patriots so good back in the day, They 1206 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 6: never beat themselves. They always did the right thing. And 1207 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 6: I think that is where this Cleveland Brown teams need 1208 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 6: to get to. 1209 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 2: So as you were saying that about Kyle and that 1210 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 2: you were there with Mike. I was thinking, because you know, 1211 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 2: you spent time in Seattle and in San Francisco, and 1212 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 2: Pete was obviously a leader of men and an enthusiasm 1213 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 2: tornado and all this stuff that came with that. But 1214 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 2: he made his bones as a defensive guy and a 1215 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 2: brilliant defensive mind. Kyle same except opposite right, offensive mind 1216 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 2: brilliant and then Kyler Kyle became some that became a 1217 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 2: leader of men. How what kind of you did you 1218 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 2: take from those two styles that those two guys had, 1219 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 2: And why were those two guys so successful? And why 1220 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 2: is it so hard to bottle that? 1221 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 6: I think Pete Pete was. Pete to me was my 1222 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 6: favorite head coach of all time. And Pete really understood 1223 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 6: how to make come into the facility fun. But he 1224 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 6: made but competing was fun, Like you wanted to go 1225 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 6: up against people you know, you from having the basketball 1226 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,439 Speaker 6: hooping the team meeting rooms, having a shootout in front 1227 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 6: of everybody, you know, doing matchups in team meetings like 1228 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 6: okay today, this is the matchup of today, Tygns versus 1229 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 6: Doug ballwin, like just to get that competition going. So 1230 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 6: now you're thinking, when I get to practice every time 1231 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 6: I line up against the I gotta win because they're 1232 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 6: gonna show this in the meeting room in the bar. 1233 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 6: Like it was just fun to compete, you know what 1234 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 6: I'm saying. It was like Herban Myer, but with more 1235 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 6: fun to it, you know, And I think that you 1236 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 6: get a lot of success. It's like tricking. It's like 1237 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 6: tricking people to compete, Like you're having so much fun 1238 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 6: competing that you don't even realize how hard you're working. 1239 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 6: So I think that was an unbelievable way Pete did that. 1240 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 6: When you look at Kyle Shanahan, he was just he 1241 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 6: was the young guy that was just so relatable, Like 1242 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 6: he said things, the way he went about his day. 1243 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 6: You could talk to him about anything like young people's stuff, 1244 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 6: like a young minded guy. He just understood it and 1245 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 6: it was like a great friendship. But you respected him 1246 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 6: so much because he was like a genius. It was 1247 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 6: like going out to practice like he would when we 1248 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 6: did like our scout team periods. He would go play 1249 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 6: quarterback and run the stuff and he would point out, 1250 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 6: like we got this covered. He'd be like, no, you don't. 1251 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 6: This guy right he was wide over. So it was 1252 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 6: like it was like those type of things. It's like, 1253 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 6: this dude is really smart. He just got the respect 1254 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 6: out of his guy. So to me, the two totally 1255 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 6: different styles kind of the same a little bit when 1256 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 6: it comes to having fun and things like that, but 1257 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 6: two totally different styles. That's very effective that resonate with players, 1258 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 6: you know. So it doesn't necessarily have to be like 1259 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 6: a dictator guy that comes in there and just laid 1260 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 6: the law down, Like there's different ways to get it. 1261 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 6: You just got to find a guy that's gonna jail 1262 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 6: with your roster, that guys will respect. 1263 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 2: Were you in San Francisco when Robert Solo was there. 1264 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 6: That was the coordinator and Jeff you that of the 1265 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 6: back coach. 1266 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 2: That's what I Yeah, I couldn't remember that all lined up. So, 1267 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 2: yeah he did. I thought he got a raw deal 1268 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 2: in New York. I really was impressed with everything. Yeah, 1269 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 2: what in terms of if he gets another shot in 1270 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 2: my hunches he will. 1271 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 7: Do? 1272 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 2: Do you think it will be successful? 1273 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 7: Then? 1274 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 2: While we're there speaking of Halfley, because I saw he 1275 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 2: interviewed for Pittsburgh today, that seems like a perfect situation 1276 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 2: for then. They always hired defensive coaches and Hafley certainly. 1277 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 6: Has to do. Yeah, So Robert Brussolo, to me, was 1278 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 6: one of those guys that you know, he can motivate guys. 1279 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 6: The way he just spoke to the team. It was 1280 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 6: funny because he always have like a little story to 1281 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 6: tell and it was just so meaningful on a story 1282 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,959 Speaker 6: that you will get from him. Very smart, always broke 1283 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 6: things down in a way that you would understand it. 1284 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 6: You know, he would he would make a game plan 1285 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 6: just seems so simple and just a genuinely good dude, 1286 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Like you can tell when 1287 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 6: coaches have coach talking and you got guys that's like 1288 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 6: genuine like that really care about your best interest. And 1289 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 6: for me to be a guy that was on the 1290 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,440 Speaker 6: practice squad that eventually worked my way up to the 1291 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,920 Speaker 6: fifty three man roster, like, he was a guy that 1292 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 6: I always just respected and looked up to. He was 1293 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 6: the guy that was that just went to bat for me. 1294 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 6: So I always had a ton of respect for Robert sala. 1295 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 6: I think he's a players coach for sure. He listens 1296 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 6: to the players, but he's gonna make sure that you work. 1297 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 6: He's gonna make sure you grind. It's not gonna be 1298 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 6: no easy days at all. He's gonna make sure that 1299 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 6: guys get things figured out. So I love that for him. 1300 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,320 Speaker 6: I think he will be successful his second time around. 1301 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 6: Do think the New York thing was a raw deal 1302 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 6: because that defense was really good. Obviously, quarterback situation is 1303 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 6: always flaky. If you don't have a quarterback hard to 1304 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 6: have success in this league, and I think he was 1305 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 6: one of those guys that fell victim to that as well. 1306 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 6: When you talk about Jeff Halfley, now, Jeff Halfley was 1307 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 6: my favorite as a back coach of all time because 1308 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 6: Jim Halfley was one of those guys that just was 1309 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 6: very real. Like you get into the league and you 1310 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 6: got coaches that will say, you know what, I'm gonna 1311 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 6: get you in the game. So I'm so, I'm on 1312 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 6: practice squad both and I'm having a good week of practice. 1313 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 6: Now at this time, I'm playing corner, having a good 1314 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 6: week of practice. Halflee goes, you know what, you balled 1315 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,760 Speaker 6: out this week. You've earned the right to play in 1316 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 6: the game. I'm looking at Halflee and I'm like, Hey, 1317 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,160 Speaker 6: I'm on practice squad. What are you talking about? He said, 1318 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 6: I'm gonna get you in the game. Short. Now Saturday 1319 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 6: come around. They said, Tyvis, we're gonna promote you to 1320 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 6: the fifty three man. Russ I said, oh my goodness, 1321 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 6: help we get so in my mind I'm still saying, 1322 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 6: he ain't about to put me in no game, Like 1323 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 6: goa put me no game. I'm gonna play special teams. 1324 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 6: And that's it. We get the Sunday We're playing the 1325 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 6: Jacksonville Jaguars. He goes, he goes to the sideline. It's 1326 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 6: about the second quarter. He like, you go you ready? 1327 01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 6: I said, oh, you was serious? He said, yeah, go 1328 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 6: out there, you in And for sure. I went out 1329 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 6: there and I actually played and I played really well. 1330 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 6: So it was it was nice just to have a 1331 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 6: guy who was a man of his word. You know. 1332 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 6: Halfy was another guy who would get us in that 1333 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 6: meat room and he'd be like, listen, they got all 1334 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 6: of these guys, but this is the areas that they 1335 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 6: like to attack. We need to stop these three areas 1336 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 6: on the field. And it just was the simplest thing. 1337 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 6: And we had a ton of success. And I'll tell 1338 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 6: you what, that DV room that we had that year 1339 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 6: was probably the best DV room we've ever had. Now, 1340 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 6: our record was not great. We were not great, but 1341 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 6: just the fun that we had in that room, how 1342 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 6: the closest that we had in that room was the 1343 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 6: best I've ever seen in the league. And I was 1344 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,280 Speaker 6: with the Lob. So I'm just telling you, Halfley is 1345 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 6: a really good coach. He's gonna have success. I do 1346 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 6: believe he's gonna end up in Miami because their general 1347 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 6: manager just came from Green Bay that they just hired 1348 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 6: in Miami, and I think he knows Halfley really well. 1349 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 6: So it's Nate's just a no brainer to hire Halfay 1350 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 6: of Miami. 1351 01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 2: All Right, take a look at we got. We got 1352 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 2: four games this weekend to Saturday to Sunday. Which one 1353 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,600 Speaker 2: of the four matchups are you most confident in the 1354 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 2: eventual winner. 1355 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 9: That I'm most kind of that good. First of all, 1356 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 9: I'm conflicted because the Setle Sanfre Yeah, I don't know 1357 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 9: where to go with that one. 1358 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 6: Like Seattle gave me my first start, like my first 1359 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:34,000 Speaker 6: league experience, Stan Friend like was home to me. And 1360 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 6: I'm not even gonna comment on that one. I'm not 1361 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 6: even gonna answer that one. Bills Broncos, I think the 1362 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 6: Bills get it done. I think the Broncos have had 1363 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 6: a magical regular season, I really do, but I think 1364 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 6: in the playoffs it's about that quarterback position a lot, 1365 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 6: and I'm just not ready to be sold on boat 1366 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 6: Knicks at this moment. I think Josh Allen just does 1367 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 6: a wonderful job of willing his team to victory. So 1368 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with him. Texas Patriots. I want to 1369 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 6: Texas to when I actually picked the Texas to go 1370 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 6: to the super Bowl this year. It's kind of crazy 1371 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 6: to say, but that defense is just so good bow 1372 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 6: Like the way that they create them takeaways. I can't 1373 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 6: deny how good they are. CJ plays outside. I know 1374 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,440 Speaker 6: CJ can play, they can make it. And then Bears Rams. 1375 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 6: I think this is just a good year for Matt Stafford. 1376 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 2: I really do. 1377 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 6: I think that he's going to get the MVP this 1378 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 6: year and he's gonna really polish his Hall of Fame 1379 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 6: resume up. So I'm gonna go with the Rams on 1380 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 6: that plan. 1381 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 2: We haven't talked about it on this show, but we've 1382 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 2: talked about it in the Club US a lot. Dude, 1383 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 2: Big ups. Just so everybody here, you're going You're going 1384 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 2: into your high school Hall of Fame here. That's coming 1385 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 2: up right a couple of weeks. 1386 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 6: You're going in yep, February seventh, going into the Bedford 1387 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 6: Hall of Fame. Me and Halle Barry. My plaque will 1388 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 6: be next to do Barry. So shout out to the 1389 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 6: Bedford Bearcats. 1390 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 2: Dude, can you arrange it to where you're near her? 1391 01:07:54,680 --> 01:08:00,000 Speaker 2: You could be Marcus Graham. I know this comes full Cirtain. 1392 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 6: I gotta see him. I gonna pull us the street. 1393 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, next you're working sixty jobs. Just give him a 1394 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 2: big donation and see if you can get right next door. 1395 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 4: That's all you need, you know what. 1396 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 6: I will to look into him, I really am. 1397 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,040 Speaker 2: I think you should. Next time I roll into Bedford, 1398 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 2: I've better see you right next to Halle. That's where 1399 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,240 Speaker 2: it needs to be. Buddy, good tech good catch it 1400 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 2: up with you as always, my friend. Thanks for your time, buddy, 1401 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:25,760 Speaker 2: no problem. 1402 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 6: Appreciate jongle both have a good one. 1403 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 2: Go brow there he goes. 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Get tickets now by 1418 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 2: visiting Huntingdonbankfield dot com slash Zach Bryan. That will be 1419 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 2: a tough ticket. 1420 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 3: I would think the album is the g Man's Like 1421 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,800 Speaker 3: I wish I had gotten to hear the album prior 1422 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 3: to the presale opportunity we had. 1423 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I would have bought those states. It's a little 1424 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,640 Speaker 2: bit more. It's a little bit more expensive right now. Yeah, Yeah, No, 1425 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,720 Speaker 2: he's He's got a lot of hits out there. Yeah, 1426 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 2: big news. We touched this a little bit yesterday. Quarterback 1427 01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 2: Dante Moore coming back to Oregon for one more year 1428 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,200 Speaker 2: with the Ducks. He was the consensus number two quarterback 1429 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,600 Speaker 2: after Mendoza, and I think there was a chance that 1430 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,719 Speaker 2: he could have played himself even above Mendoza in the process. 1431 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 2: Is a little bit more physically gifted. He did not 1432 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,640 Speaker 2: play well in the game against Indiana in the National semifinal. 1433 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,679 Speaker 2: Maybe that was part of it. Maybe he just wanted 1434 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,360 Speaker 2: to go back and be a college kid and make 1435 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,519 Speaker 2: a ton of money and quarterback the Oregon Ducks for 1436 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,680 Speaker 2: another year. And you can't blame him for that. But 1437 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 2: what that did is it put the quarterback class this 1438 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 2: year into a massive state of flux. And so Mendoza 1439 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,200 Speaker 2: is at the top of it, and then it's probably 1440 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 2: Ty Simpson out of Alabama, and then it is all 1441 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 2: of those names that a year ago, at this time, 1442 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:38,960 Speaker 2: we all thought this was going to be a massive 1443 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 2: quarterback class. Those are your Drew Allers and your Club 1444 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,800 Speaker 2: Nicks and your Nusmyers, all of those guys who just 1445 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,760 Speaker 2: did not have the years that people thought that they 1446 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,439 Speaker 2: would have. All those guys are going to fall somewhere 1447 01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 2: in this draft. I think I saw Dane had Nussmyer 1448 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:58,840 Speaker 2: his third quarterback, and so it just doesn't appear to 1449 01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,639 Speaker 2: be as strong as a quarterback labs as we thought 1450 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,080 Speaker 2: it was going to be a year ago. This is 1451 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 2: Ryan Wilson of CBS Sports HQ discussing this year's quarterback 1452 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,840 Speaker 2: class without more and looking ahead to twenty twenty seven. 1453 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,519 Speaker 10: This is worst case scenario because we're now looking at 1454 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,519 Speaker 10: a draft class with a quarterback position where you have 1455 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,840 Speaker 10: one surefire thing for Nana Mendoza and everything else is 1456 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,800 Speaker 10: wide open. Dante Morris return to school. You have Ty 1457 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,080 Speaker 10: Simpson who's declared for the draft. Is he a top 1458 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 10: five pick and not? As we sit here, we're still 1459 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,080 Speaker 10: waiting to hear from John Mattier he is not a 1460 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 10: first round pick, mostly because of the injury he suffered 1461 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,599 Speaker 10: halfway through that season. And then you have to work 1462 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,439 Speaker 10: your way down the draft board, Chris, and you get 1463 01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 10: to Carson Beck, who has refound his game at the 1464 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 10: University of Miami, but he is no longer in the 1465 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 10: first round conversation right now. 1466 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,280 Speaker 4: We've seen teams like the Texans. 1467 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 10: In twenty twenty three drafts DJ Stroud and turning around 1468 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 10: the Commander's in twenty four with Jayden Daniels. The Patriots 1469 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 10: last year with Drake Mayon this year. They are one 1470 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:50,720 Speaker 10: of the best teams in the NFL. If you don't 1471 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,679 Speaker 10: have a quarterback, you can't win football games. 1472 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 4: So how far down do we go? 1473 01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 11: Now you have Ty Simpson as a Day one quarterback, 1474 01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 11: I would imagine now he's your QB two. But could 1475 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,719 Speaker 11: we see a situation like we just saw this past draft, 1476 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,840 Speaker 11: where we have a quarterback go number one overall and 1477 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,000 Speaker 11: then nobody goes until late in the first round and 1478 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 11: somebody may trade back in to pick up QB two. 1479 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 10: Very realistic possibility, Chris, And as we sit here, these 1480 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,639 Speaker 10: are the teams that need quarterbacks, the Raiders, the Jets, 1481 01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 10: the Cardinals potentially, the Browns, the Miami Dolphins potentially, the 1482 01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,959 Speaker 10: Rams have a couple first round picks. 1483 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 4: And if they want to plan for life after Matthew Stafern, 1484 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,320 Speaker 4: and of course the Pittsburgh Steelers. 1485 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 10: But here's the thing, and he talked about it with 1486 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,680 Speaker 10: Jackson Dirt last year when I thought he was the 1487 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,920 Speaker 10: second round talent, the Giants traded up to the back 1488 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 10: of the first round to get him, and he had 1489 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,560 Speaker 10: a really good rookie season. Teams are going to have 1490 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,680 Speaker 10: to now go back and do more homework on Ty 1491 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,120 Speaker 10: Simpson as we get through this pre draft process, because 1492 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:47,040 Speaker 10: here's the difference between Ty. 1493 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 4: Simpson and Jackson Dart. 1494 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,479 Speaker 10: One of the differences He's only started a fifteen games, 1495 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:52,599 Speaker 10: And when you look at the list of quarterbacks drafting 1496 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,960 Speaker 10: the first round since twenty ten who have started fifteen 1497 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 10: or fueral college games, Ms Trubisky, Dwayne Haskins, Anthony Richard, 1498 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,400 Speaker 10: and then you have Cam Newton. But he had played 1499 01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,679 Speaker 10: a whole entire season the year before in junior college. 1500 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 10: So that is not a glowing list of guys who 1501 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 10: can come in right away and be day one starters 1502 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 10: and be successful. Teams have to figure that out. One 1503 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 10: of the things that I think that Ty has going 1504 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 10: for him, He's an incredibly, really good processor of what's 1505 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:20,759 Speaker 10: happening pre and post nap, insanely accurate and short intermediate passes. 1506 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:22,760 Speaker 4: Struggle with d passes at. 1507 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 10: A historically low level this season, but in talking to 1508 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 10: folks in Alabama, he was dealing with an injury for 1509 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,880 Speaker 10: much of the season and if NFL teams are okay 1510 01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,120 Speaker 10: with that, and perhaps during the pre draft process, in 1511 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,439 Speaker 10: the throwing sessions of the Combiners Pro Day or Wherever 1512 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,480 Speaker 10: it proves that he can be consistently accurate. 1513 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 4: Down the field, he will find his way into the 1514 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:38,599 Speaker 4: first round. 1515 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,640 Speaker 10: And then the question be comes, do the Jets not 1516 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 10: take him at two, for example, but maybe at sixteen 1517 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 10: with their second first round pick target someone like. 1518 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:45,960 Speaker 4: Ty Simpsons Ryan. 1519 01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 11: How are scouts viewing those guys that you see as 1520 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,080 Speaker 11: Day three guys in this year's draft who came back 1521 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 11: for another year of college. 1522 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,400 Speaker 4: Drew Aller is the guy that he's building the lab. 1523 01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:57,759 Speaker 4: He just never put it together. 1524 01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,760 Speaker 10: And the feedback you got from Drew Alier both last 1525 01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,479 Speaker 10: season and then this season before the injury is that 1526 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 10: he just played two robotic at times, and he wasn't 1527 01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:05,679 Speaker 10: He didn't go out there and just sling it around 1528 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 10: the yard and not to the point where you're turning 1529 01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,080 Speaker 10: the ball over, but playing a little more free than 1530 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:10,360 Speaker 10: what we. 1531 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:11,000 Speaker 4: Saw at times. 1532 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,160 Speaker 10: It felt like he was stressing and trying to make 1533 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,719 Speaker 10: every single play perfect. When you talk about nus Meyer 1534 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,639 Speaker 10: and Kate Clubnick and I wrote about this back. 1535 01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 4: In September, they're both six to one or shorter. 1536 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 10: And the question I had at the time when I 1537 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:23,760 Speaker 10: talked to the folks around the league was can you 1538 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,960 Speaker 10: be successful as an NFL quarterback at that height? And 1539 01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 10: the feedback I got was, it's not the height, it's 1540 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,360 Speaker 10: the consistency that these guys. 1541 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 4: Have yet to play with. 1542 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 10: So you could be at Baker Mayfield and go out 1543 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,240 Speaker 10: there and play at a high level, be the first 1544 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,599 Speaker 10: overall pick, and then sort of rediscover yourself when. 1545 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 4: You land in Tampa Bay, for example. 1546 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 10: But the way that the season unfolded the last two 1547 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 10: years for Garrett nus Meyer, the second half of the 1548 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,760 Speaker 10: season in twenty twenty four and then this year of course, 1549 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,920 Speaker 10: and then this season for kay Clubnick gave a lot 1550 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,120 Speaker 10: of teams pause in terms of whether that looks like 1551 01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:53,679 Speaker 10: a franchise quarterback of the next level? 1552 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:54,120 Speaker 4: Right? 1553 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 10: Did they fit matters more than anything else, But they 1554 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 10: did not put enough good stuff on tape to mary 1555 01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 10: it be in first round picks right now. 1556 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 2: But they're out of eligibility, so they're in the twenty 1557 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 2: sixth draft. 1558 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,040 Speaker 11: More is going to be in the twenty seven draft. 1559 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:07,680 Speaker 2: And if you look ahead to that. 1560 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,960 Speaker 11: Right now, where would you put him on your quarterback 1561 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:11,439 Speaker 11: big board? 1562 01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:12,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1563 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,960 Speaker 10: So Dante Morris QB won for me. And here's the thing, 1564 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 10: and you'll get pushed back about Arch Manning. If we're 1565 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 10: all honest with ourselves, if his name was Arch Wilson, 1566 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,519 Speaker 10: for example, he would not be in the first overall 1567 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,280 Speaker 10: pick conversation. His pedigree is speaks for itself. Dante moriy 1568 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,320 Speaker 10: will have paid played probably twenty five games, which is 1569 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,400 Speaker 10: a sweet spot of what you want for your quarterbacks 1570 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,439 Speaker 10: coming out as first round picks. I love Jade Mayava. 1571 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,479 Speaker 10: I may be hiring him than other people. I know 1572 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,720 Speaker 10: some NFL teams had a day too great on him. 1573 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 10: I thought he played really well this season before deciding 1574 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 10: to come back, and that put Arch number three right now. 1575 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,640 Speaker 10: He got better as the season went on, but the 1576 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,880 Speaker 10: first half of the season Tap of Texas was hard 1577 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 10: to watch. If we're being honest with ourselves, Julius Sands 1578 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,040 Speaker 10: on that list. We know how well he played down 1579 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 10: the stretch or for the season until that last game 1580 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,600 Speaker 10: for Ohio State. Leonora Sellers came back to school to 1581 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,440 Speaker 10: prove himself. Then he had Brenda Sorsby. He was transferred 1582 01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,680 Speaker 10: to Indiana to be that next excuse me, Texas Tech 1583 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,120 Speaker 10: to be that next guy. Josh Hooper beat Indiana. So 1584 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,400 Speaker 10: we have a lot of names to watch I'll say it, Chris, 1585 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 10: I say it every year the time next year looks 1586 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 10: like a dead quarterback class, and we shall see together 1587 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:11,240 Speaker 10: if it actually is. 1588 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 6: That. 1589 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,280 Speaker 2: Lewis Riddick had that point too. He's like, before everybody 1590 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 2: talks about how great it's gonna be in twenty twenty seven, 1591 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,599 Speaker 2: let's remember this. Remember where we were. Yeah, with all 1592 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,920 Speaker 2: of these things speaking, what quarterback go ahead? Can? What 1593 01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 2: is Oregon gonna do here? Well, they're gonna they're gonna 1594 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,800 Speaker 2: pay him probably six and a half million dollars a 1595 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 2: year to be the starting quarterback. And then if Dylan 1596 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 2: Royola wants to go somewhere else, fine. I think the 1597 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,679 Speaker 2: big question is will Royola jump back in the portal. 1598 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:37,880 Speaker 2: He played two years at Nebraska. It's hard for me 1599 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,519 Speaker 2: to imagine him just sitting for a year, but maybe 1600 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 2: there if he stays there, will be the first really 1601 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,439 Speaker 2: mature decision that that group has made. Because he played 1602 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,839 Speaker 2: at four or five different race schools. He was committed 1603 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,960 Speaker 2: to three different colleges before ending up in Nebraska. They 1604 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,880 Speaker 2: gave him the keys to the operation. It didn't go 1605 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,120 Speaker 2: particularly well, and so now he's at Oregon. So I mean, 1606 01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,760 Speaker 2: if he if he leaves. I'm assuming he got paid 1607 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,439 Speaker 2: to go there, oh for sure. So yeah, yeah, but 1608 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,240 Speaker 2: probably not lucratively. I'm guessing it was probably a pay cut, 1609 01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 2: honestly because he wasn't like coveted by the top top 1610 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 2: schools that are out there. So I think there was 1611 01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 2: an Oregon. It's my understanding Oregon had they thought they 1612 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,240 Speaker 2: were getting Demon Williams, who's the kid from Washington. He 1613 01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 2: had already signed with Washington when they asked him to 1614 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 2: go in he decided to go back, or Washington fought it. 1615 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,960 Speaker 2: He's back at Washington, so that they pivoted to Riola. 1616 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,559 Speaker 2: So I think that's how that happened. But yeah, more 1617 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,040 Speaker 2: could be in the conversation for number one overall saying Manning, 1618 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,920 Speaker 2: it should be a really really good class in twenty 1619 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,639 Speaker 2: twenty seven. You could have five six of them going 1620 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:40,880 Speaker 2: in the first round. Could be like the one from 1621 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. But you never know. In 1622 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 2: the meantime, you really got to do your homework for 1623 01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,559 Speaker 2: this year if you're interested. Yes you did, because after 1624 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,639 Speaker 2: it one yeah, and I'm not. I don't know about 1625 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:55,160 Speaker 2: Mendoza's like a sure Number one overall feels rich, but 1626 01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:59,320 Speaker 2: we'll see one other thing on the NFL quarterback front. 1627 01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,680 Speaker 2: Pretty big news out of Seattle. Sam Darnold pops on 1628 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,519 Speaker 2: the injury report. He is now listed as questionable for 1629 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,280 Speaker 2: Saturday's game against the forty nine Ers with an oblique. 1630 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,120 Speaker 2: So remember they play Saturday, so this is the Friday 1631 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,160 Speaker 2: practice for them, This is this is the last day 1632 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,720 Speaker 2: you got to walk through tomorrow game Saturday night. I'm 1633 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:21,040 Speaker 2: sure he'll play, but that is very noteworthy. Who's the backup? 1634 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 2: I couldn't even tell you, Jayleben really yeah, it probably 1635 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:27,120 Speaker 2: is Milroe. 1636 01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that I'll tell you what though, Like I mean, 1637 01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:33,800 Speaker 3: that would go out where we were a year ago 1638 01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 3: with that name. 1639 01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1640 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:35,160 Speaker 1: Right. 1641 01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 2: So but also like if if he were to play, 1642 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,640 Speaker 2: or even if he were to play in Spurts, that 1643 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,680 Speaker 2: would be a massively different thing for the Rams to 1644 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,200 Speaker 2: prepare for because he can go, like he can run. Yeah, 1645 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,920 Speaker 2: that'd be a much different offensive attack if they had Milrow. 1646 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:49,640 Speaker 5: Uh. 1647 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:53,599 Speaker 3: Speaking of the forty nine Ers side of things, Kyle 1648 01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 3: Shanahan says Fred Warner will not be activated off ir 1649 01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,760 Speaker 3: ahead of Saturday's game for Seattle and the Visional Round. 1650 01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,439 Speaker 3: So again, that goes back to that I think they're 1651 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 3: hoping he can be able to go should they make 1652 01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,040 Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game, which if Darnold. 1653 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,519 Speaker 2: Doesn't play, those odds increase. I would think pretty dramatic. 1654 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 2: I would imagine that that number would change too mother 1655 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,040 Speaker 2: time he gets to that. All right, we'll open up 1656 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,080 Speaker 2: the mailbag. Coming up next shals to Cleveland. Rond Zalely 1657 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,360 Speaker 2: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1658 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:30,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, 1659 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:34,280 Speaker 1: presented by Ballely Bet Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner 1660 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 1: of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 1661 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:49,000 Speaker 2: All right, Welcome in clevel Round Daily, eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. 1662 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,479 Speaker 2: Time for a little mail bag to wrap up this 1663 01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 2: Thursday edition. Hello, Gibba, Bye, Sun's out there. We got 1664 01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,400 Speaker 2: palm tree of Corona. A little pool time. Let's go. 1665 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,360 Speaker 2: Let's let go a little polar plunge. 1666 01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:01,960 Speaker 6: Whoop. 1667 01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,559 Speaker 2: That what the hof does every morning? 1668 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:06,120 Speaker 6: He does? 1669 01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:07,040 Speaker 2: He gets in that thing. 1670 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:07,320 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1671 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 2: I when I used to play basketball in the morning, 1672 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 2: I would do that. I would go play basketball before 1673 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 2: I was worried about tearing the achilles. I would go 1674 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,240 Speaker 2: play basketball. Then I would take an ice bath for 1675 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,679 Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. It truly is just the worst 1676 01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,640 Speaker 2: at the beginning, and then it chills. You're fine, but 1677 01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,840 Speaker 2: it's so hard, shocks the body. So hard to do Yeah, 1678 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:32,280 Speaker 2: so hard? Yeah, not great? Yeah, yep. You can tweet 1679 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:37,520 Speaker 2: at the show at Brown's Underscore Daily on this Thursday 1680 01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 2: edition of the program Love a Dog Today. What would 1681 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:46,280 Speaker 2: you do to fix nil or the transfer portal? I 1682 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 2: would run the NFL model against college football and I 1683 01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:55,600 Speaker 2: would just pay him salary cap and handle it that 1684 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,400 Speaker 2: way collectively bargain it. I've been saying this honestly in 1685 01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,720 Speaker 2: Columbus for ten years, like it's the only path that 1686 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 2: gets any sort of lasso around all of this. I think. 1687 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 2: Then you fix the calendar. That makes quite a bit 1688 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,120 Speaker 2: of sense. I've outlined that before, like how to handle that, 1689 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 2: and you open up the portal. You do so at 1690 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:13,960 Speaker 2: the end of the season. The season should have ended 1691 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,200 Speaker 2: like last Saturday instead of the next Monday. You want 1692 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,000 Speaker 2: to open up the portal there for fifteen days. But 1693 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,160 Speaker 2: there's a salary cap that everybody's working with. There's a 1694 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,280 Speaker 2: structure to it, and you go from there. And the 1695 01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,920 Speaker 2: one thing that they can't ever get a they're never 1696 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,360 Speaker 2: gonna be able to hold on because they they blew 1697 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,880 Speaker 2: it so poorly was the nil component of it, because 1698 01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 2: there is no way to ever get any sort of 1699 01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,880 Speaker 2: guardrail on that. As long as ultra wealthy people want 1700 01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,040 Speaker 2: to pay for players to go to schools, that's going 1701 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:42,680 Speaker 2: to be the case. But the salary cap would at 1702 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,240 Speaker 2: least keep guys on campus staying on campus. Absolutely. 1703 01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,800 Speaker 3: He did follow up a separate question of food question 1704 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:55,400 Speaker 3: meat eat yeah, bone in or bone out? 1705 01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:01,080 Speaker 2: Oh? Bone in? Flavor? Man, that's where your flavor is, buddy, Yeah, exactly. 1706 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,800 Speaker 3: Chris Denny tweets at the show you are stuck on 1707 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 3: an island with music from only three artists. 1708 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:13,840 Speaker 2: Who are the three stuck on an island? Three artists? 1709 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:17,200 Speaker 2: All right? I need you need to have a massive catalog. 1710 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,080 Speaker 2: Dave Matthews would be the note brain number one for me, 1711 01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,040 Speaker 2: A list. I mean that, that's that to me. That 1712 01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,880 Speaker 2: would set the tone to. And there's such a massive 1713 01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:30,880 Speaker 2: catalog there, so I would go there. I would probably 1714 01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,679 Speaker 2: go a little bit to my roots and I'd probably 1715 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,000 Speaker 2: go a little George Straight would probably be in the mix. 1716 01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,440 Speaker 2: I was going to go Kenny Chesney, that's a perfectly 1717 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:39,599 Speaker 2: an island. 1718 01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:44,439 Speaker 3: Those line up, yep, yep. Third one, I'm going traditional. 1719 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:48,680 Speaker 3: I want a little Jimmy Buffett big catalog. Yeah, some 1720 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:53,000 Speaker 3: good times. I thought about Luke Combs as well. 1721 01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah all I mean, I'm trying to think if i'd 1722 01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 2: want a zag and have something that wasn't like chill, 1723 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,479 Speaker 2: maybe a little rock? Yeah, would you want like some 1724 01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,160 Speaker 2: ac DC just to give you set the tone a 1725 01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,760 Speaker 2: little bit? There you go like something like that where 1726 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,559 Speaker 2: you get a little bit, get a little juice when 1727 01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,639 Speaker 2: you needed it. Man, I really got to build this raft. 1728 01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,960 Speaker 2: Can you play Hell's Bells for me? Maybe that's maybe 1729 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:19,720 Speaker 2: that's the way I would do that. Let's see, I 1730 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:21,560 Speaker 2: got a ton from Bobby. We'll get to it. 1731 01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:23,280 Speaker 6: Bo. 1732 01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,160 Speaker 2: What's your favorite cocktail right now? From Trey? Carrey had 1733 01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:30,080 Speaker 2: it last night. It was a first Friday. My favorite 1734 01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,799 Speaker 2: old fashion is the one I made with the maple syrup. 1735 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,719 Speaker 2: So it's it's two and a half ounces of bourbon. 1736 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,400 Speaker 2: It is a teaspoon of maple syrup. It is a 1737 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,439 Speaker 2: dash of black walnut biard bitters. You stir that up. 1738 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:45,000 Speaker 2: Make sure you stir it up. Don't put it on 1739 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:46,840 Speaker 2: anything cold. First otherwise it won't mix the way that 1740 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 2: you need it to. So stir it up in your 1741 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,720 Speaker 2: glass and then get yourself a big cube and put 1742 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,719 Speaker 2: it in or rocks if you want. Do it straight 1743 01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:56,840 Speaker 2: too if you want, and and go that way. So 1744 01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,200 Speaker 2: that's my maple old fashion is my go to for 1745 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,400 Speaker 2: this time of year. See I don't, he asked me, 1746 01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,759 Speaker 2: and I'm like, eh, I don't really have a cocktail. 1747 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,680 Speaker 2: What is your cocktail like? If you go to a 1748 01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 2: bar and you're not gonna have a beer and you're 1749 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:10,719 Speaker 2: gonna have a cocktail. 1750 01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:11,479 Speaker 6: What you like? 1751 01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,080 Speaker 2: I like a little red wine? Yeah, I love the 1752 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,879 Speaker 2: red wine. What about liquor? Is there a liquor cocktail 1753 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,360 Speaker 2: that you have liked over the years that you're like this? 1754 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:23,040 Speaker 2: Those are usually pretty good. Something with vodka, usually. 1755 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:24,560 Speaker 11: I do. 1756 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,000 Speaker 2: I do enjoy a good on the golf course. 1757 01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:31,800 Speaker 3: The transfusion is that's defeated, except I would tell you, 1758 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,720 Speaker 3: like for grape juice, you can sub it out with 1759 01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:38,040 Speaker 3: grape gatorade. There you go, and that works out pretty well. 1760 01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,400 Speaker 3: That hydrates too, a little bit of hydration that goes 1761 01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,800 Speaker 3: back to your little pool side, you know, a little 1762 01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:48,400 Speaker 3: gatorade grape zero mix it with vodka. There was pretty 1763 01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:49,560 Speaker 3: that's pretty undefeated. 1764 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:52,559 Speaker 2: I don't I don't. 1765 01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,639 Speaker 3: I don't have a cocktail, per se. I like a Margarite, 1766 01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:05,600 Speaker 3: a Mexican. All right, hold on now they're okay, so 1767 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,080 Speaker 3: is this it the Royal Blue. I'm trying to think. 1768 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,240 Speaker 2: There was a golf course I played in the Bahamas 1769 01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:14,479 Speaker 2: at Baja Mar. I think it's called Royal Blue. Yes 1770 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:18,519 Speaker 2: it is. And they give you a cocktail as you go, 1771 01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:20,920 Speaker 2: like as you go, they give you one on the 1772 01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,559 Speaker 2: house as you as you go out. Pretty cool course. Okay, yeah, 1773 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:31,280 Speaker 2: here it is. So they go raspberry vodka, lemonade and 1774 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:36,280 Speaker 2: cranberry juice and that that was a delight. That was 1775 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,000 Speaker 2: a delight. And I'm not I'm not a vodka cocktail guy. 1776 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:40,720 Speaker 2: I like a martini every once in a while, but 1777 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,519 Speaker 2: not a vodka. But that's that was a delight they 1778 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 2: had that. They had the the sonic ice, the chewy ice. 1779 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,760 Speaker 2: They had that in there. That's undefeated. That winds. Yeah, 1780 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:53,800 Speaker 2: that's that was a good one. I remember that thinking like, boy, 1781 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,760 Speaker 2: that's pretty good. That's well, that's well done. Yeah. 1782 01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,240 Speaker 3: I like going in like especially once once we're in 1783 01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:03,520 Speaker 3: warmer climate. Yeah, they've got like a little drink specials. 1784 01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:04,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1785 01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 2: I love things like that. You'll run those out. 1786 01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:11,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Kyle Ryan, what's the super Bowl matchup you 1787 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:15,960 Speaker 3: want to see the most? Give me Bears and Bills. 1788 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,720 Speaker 2: Bears Bills would be, boy, the winner won't have a 1789 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,759 Speaker 2: city because it'll burn, probably with the party that comes 1790 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 2: with it. Yeah. By the way, Nico Collins not at 1791 01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,040 Speaker 2: practice today for Houston. 1792 01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,439 Speaker 3: Now that's looking so great. That's not looking at I 1793 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,840 Speaker 3: have wide receivers coming up. Maybe in an over under. 1794 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,840 Speaker 2: I think you might all right, let me just I mean, 1795 01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:41,679 Speaker 2: I've been on the Rams all year, so I guess 1796 01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,360 Speaker 2: the Rams would be you know, Rams Bills would be 1797 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,400 Speaker 2: kind of the one that would have the most juice 1798 01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,160 Speaker 2: to it. Just with the two quarterbacks, that one would 1799 01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,560 Speaker 2: probably have the most juice. I mean, the Bills in 1800 01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 2: anything feels like a win, like there's such kindred spirits. 1801 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,040 Speaker 2: You just want them to have that ultimate success. So 1802 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,600 Speaker 2: then against anybody would be a pretty big win for me. 1803 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 2: But I'd like to see them against Stafford. I think 1804 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:02,800 Speaker 2: that'd be fun. 1805 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:07,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, Bobby time Bbbe last five minutes. Bobby, 1806 01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:11,040 Speaker 3: You're welcome. Since Gibbe is gonna have to pay for 1807 01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:11,599 Speaker 3: it soon. 1808 01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:15,120 Speaker 2: What is your sushi order? Raw or cooked? Bobby? Come 1809 01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:19,920 Speaker 2: on now? Always raw, Bobby? Always? Everybody? Are those are? 1810 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:24,080 Speaker 2: G Man and Doctor J Sushi guys? Uh? 1811 01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:25,080 Speaker 6: G Man? 1812 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:29,240 Speaker 2: Yes, j Mac No big thumbs down. Oh, might have 1813 01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:30,800 Speaker 2: to get you a little hole by? Why Why is 1814 01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:32,880 Speaker 2: he not a Why no sushi? Is he worried about 1815 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,320 Speaker 2: the raw? He doesn't like taste of it? 1816 01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:36,840 Speaker 1: Oh? 1817 01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,120 Speaker 2: Dude, do a little ahi? Come on, a little yellowfin? 1818 01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:40,439 Speaker 1: Come on? 1819 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:42,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, I know what he gets hurts. Nobody 1820 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,000 Speaker 3: gets hurt. Nope, no one good stuff. I might get 1821 01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:47,040 Speaker 3: sushi tonight. 1822 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,519 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, By the way, an update he expects to 1823 01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:53,240 Speaker 2: play Saturday. All right, that's why the score hasn't changed. 1824 01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:53,439 Speaker 1: Yep. 1825 01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:55,880 Speaker 7: Um. 1826 01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:01,040 Speaker 3: What's your favorite line from any movie? I do like 1827 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:05,760 Speaker 3: to drop the don't sell yourself short. You're a tremendous louch. I. 1828 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,040 Speaker 2: There's two that just popped into my mind. Obviously I 1829 01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:09,720 Speaker 2: know that questions coming. But the two that popped in 1830 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:14,120 Speaker 2: my mind are you can't handle the truth. And but 1831 01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,479 Speaker 2: one that I use all the time is the Tommy 1832 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,240 Speaker 2: Lee Jones to Harrison Ford in the tunnel in The 1833 01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,720 Speaker 2: Fugitive when he goes, I didn't kill my wife, and 1834 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,880 Speaker 2: Tommy Lee Jones goes, I don't care. I'll say that 1835 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:30,320 Speaker 2: to the boys all the time. I don't care. Yeah, yeah, 1836 01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,439 Speaker 2: I like that. Go to your room, to your other room. 1837 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 2: I don't care. 1838 01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:40,960 Speaker 3: Oh, this is a funny one. What's more stressful a 1839 01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,040 Speaker 3: third and long late in the fourth quarter or trying 1840 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,200 Speaker 3: to merge onto I four eighty during rush hour? 1841 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,679 Speaker 2: I don't I don't have a problem with the merging 1842 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,800 Speaker 2: because I believe I do it correctly in a zipper 1843 01:28:54,920 --> 01:29:00,519 Speaker 2: merge pattern. Unfortunately, the gross majority of people leave in 1844 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,559 Speaker 2: this absurd notion of staying in one lane for seven 1845 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,479 Speaker 2: miles before they need to, as opposed to just merging 1846 01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,080 Speaker 2: when it goes from two lanes to one. And that's 1847 01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,479 Speaker 2: kind of similar when you merge onto four eighty, like 1848 01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:13,519 Speaker 2: just let it's just easy, like you go, I go, 1849 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,439 Speaker 2: you go, I go, and everybody keeps moving. So I 1850 01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,040 Speaker 2: guess the first one is more stressful, gotcha? Yeah? 1851 01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,400 Speaker 3: Uh, he says, Be honest, how many Browns fans would 1852 01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,639 Speaker 3: trade one Super Bowl win for a lifetime of free 1853 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,479 Speaker 3: perogis and a snow free winner? 1854 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 2: Now, which should you choose? Super Bowl versus No Winner. Yeah, 1855 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,479 Speaker 2: come on, I mean I love us. I mean I 1856 01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 2: love us, but my god, No Winner would be pretty 1857 01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:49,320 Speaker 2: amazing year round. Can you imagine Hooligan's year round Poligans 1858 01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,759 Speaker 2: year round year round be unbelievable. I might. You wouldn't 1859 01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,640 Speaker 2: make it long. I'd be broke, they'd be broke. You 1860 01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:56,280 Speaker 2: would have a liver. 1861 01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:01,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they could be a problem. Yeah exactly. Uh 1862 01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:06,280 Speaker 3: were you lore of a tpee the house or prank 1863 01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:07,400 Speaker 3: phone call person? 1864 01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:10,439 Speaker 6: We did? Uh? 1865 01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:15,400 Speaker 2: I was more of the we did the The kids 1866 01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:17,160 Speaker 2: called it ding dong ditch. We called it something else. 1867 01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 2: But we used to do that a lot, and then 1868 01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:24,080 Speaker 2: we would do the I don't remember do the prank 1869 01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,600 Speaker 2: phone call thing much. That was the Jerky Boys are 1870 01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,439 Speaker 2: a big thing. Yeah, and I remember listening to that 1871 01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,240 Speaker 2: a lot, but I don't I don't remember doing that. 1872 01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:35,600 Speaker 2: I Caller I D came into place right around and 1873 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:36,600 Speaker 2: that was kind of the end of that. 1874 01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, you had to dial like a certain code, but 1875 01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,559 Speaker 3: misstyled you were like, maybe I don't want to deal 1876 01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:42,800 Speaker 3: with that. 1877 01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:43,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1878 01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,080 Speaker 2: Now to the point like if somebody calls me, I'm like, 1879 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,320 Speaker 2: why are you don't ever call me unless it's an emergency. 1880 01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,240 Speaker 2: Just text. That's even with like family, like I'm like, 1881 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:52,840 Speaker 2: why are you calling? I don't want we don't need 1882 01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,760 Speaker 2: to talk, had nothing to say. 1883 01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,760 Speaker 3: What's the quickest in an interview you knew someone wasn't 1884 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,160 Speaker 3: going to work out in the final thirty second. 1885 01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,040 Speaker 2: The h I interviewed former Cowboys court I don't know 1886 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:06,560 Speaker 2: if this exactly he's talking about, this will pop in 1887 01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,559 Speaker 2: my head. I was interviewing former Cowboys quarterback Danny White, 1888 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,320 Speaker 2: and my first question was it had to be pretty 1889 01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:14,839 Speaker 2: dang good being Danny White quarterback in the Dallas Cowboys 1890 01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,920 Speaker 2: in the nineteen eighties. And he goes, well, yeah, that's 1891 01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,840 Speaker 2: the best you can do. And I went, oh, this 1892 01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,400 Speaker 2: is gonna go great. So Danny, we'll see on down 1893 01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:26,280 Speaker 2: the road. Good chat. And with that that's the mail bag. 1894 01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:30,080 Speaker 2: There you go, kids, Friday, Siciliano, Andrew Berry. You'll have 1895 01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,839 Speaker 2: that conversation division round over unders and of course the scores. 1896 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,040 Speaker 2: We're back then, thanks for listening. Cleveland Browns, Daly eight 1897 01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:36,080 Speaker 2: fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1898 01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,720 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 1899 01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,959 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland