WEBVTT - There’s Something in the Water • EP 820 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.520 First of all, you don't know me. All about that 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.439 high school drama Girl Drama, Girl, all about. 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.119 Them high school queens. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:10.360 We'll take you for a ride, and our comic girl 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.040 sharing for the right teams, Drama. 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.639 Queens, Girl of Girl Fashion, but your tough girl, you 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:17.480 could sit with us. 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:21.640 Girl Drama, Queens, Drama, Queise Drama, Queens Drama Drama, Queens 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:23.319 Drama Queens. 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.120 We got our new outfits on. It's a new day. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.880 It's a new day, and we're here for a new episode. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:31.040 How you doing so high? 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.840 Snack Attack? I just came up to hid in real time. 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:35.720 That's got to be the name of our show. 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.960 Yes, you and I we are going to have a 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.519 food show at some point. I am manifesting it. But 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.080 I do think on days like today, when one of 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.680 the three hosts is traveling this week, it's obviously joy 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.360 and it's me and you, it's like it's DQ snack attack. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:57.680 Dude, Yeah, from your lips, God's ears. You know. 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:03.480 Hopefully, some hopefully, some like good reality show people listen 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:05.200 to this, because like I don't want to be on 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:09.880 a reality show like a Housewives or a Love Island, 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:14.080 but a docu show about food give it to. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.680 Me and Mark Brunette, who obviously listens to this show 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:24.200 clearly super fan. Did us up? Super fan? Oh man, 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:24.720 how you doing? 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:26.240 I'm good, buddy, how are you? 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:32.040 I'm doing well good. This was a fun episode man. Yeah. 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.520 I was just going to say, I'm really excited to 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:39.440 do this episode with you, in particular as a dad, 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:44.600 because this whole thing centering around Jamie's little League game 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:48.000 and that essentially being the theme of the episode with 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:52.520 his voiceover and you know, the classic baseball tale. The 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.320 whole time I was watching this to prep for today, 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:56.840 I was like, oh my god, I just can't wait 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.080 to talk to Rob about little League. 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:04.040 It was very again, very little of the show I 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.000 remember shooting. I remember a lot of this one because 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.959 this was so much fun. Yeah, I remember well because 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:14.280 also selfishly, I just I really enjoyed the company of 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:19.680 James and Austin. Yeah, and especially Austin. We very rarely 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.120 got to do anything together. So this was like an 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:26.120 entire day with the three of us just paling around, 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:30.079 you know, and doing light, silly materials. So it wasn't 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.120 like we had to be like dropped into a moment. 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.160 It was like, no, we're just gonna goof around all 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.280 day on and off camera. You know what. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.359 That reminds me though, I got such a good hit 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:43.280 of that last week, and we spent so long reminiscing 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.520 with Jana. It's making me realize in real time that 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.880 we didn't talk about the opening of eight nineteen, which 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.560 was you and Austin in the car. Was that eight nineteen, Yeah, 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:57.040 having this conversation. You guys are in the stingray venting 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.959 about Kellerman and talking about John driving and how could 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.960 a teacher do this an ethics professor you know, know 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:09.000 less and did like and so going through that whole 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:13.720 journey together in the last episode, knowing that he resigned, 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:17.480 took responsibility all the foreshadowing for this one that we're 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:22.320 going to talk about. When that scene came up in 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.839 the beginning, I was like, God, I love seeing these 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:29.160 two together, and I love you know, Julian's processing this 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:33.000 horrible thing he witnessed and you're talking to him much 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.000 further on the other side of a horrible thing of 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:39.080 almost losing you know, your person and having obviously lost 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:43.000 your late wife, and so I don't know it. Really 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.880 it was really powerful to me in the episode last 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.640 week and then to your point, seeing you guys have 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:55.160 this really sweet, like joyful sort of dad adjacent uncle 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.720 experience together, it was really nice. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.160 And also shout out to Nathan for playing Nancy Drew 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:03.680 and figuring the whole thing out. 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:05.560 Yes, oh my god. 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.360 He did it last episode. And then I think the 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:13.400 whole Killerman story was handled really well. 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:14.240 I do too. 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:18.800 The misdirector earlier were well done, especially last week watching 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.960 eight nineteen knowing I remembered how it you know, what 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.880 really happened, And even still I was watching when like, 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.840 oh this is it's it's really good because there's one 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.599 point where Ian is yelling at his dad at the 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:34.919 baseball field. I think it's in eight nineteen, and the 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.599 dad's like, I gave up my career. I gave up 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.600 my career and Ian goes, well, you shouldn't have done it, 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.440 and I and I went back and watch it. I'm like, ooh, 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.760 wait a second, this doesn't track because actually end it 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.240 and I'm like, oh no, he's saying in this context, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.159 you shouldn't have given up your career, but it really 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.040 makes it seem like he's hammering his dad like you 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:56.600 shouldn't have been drinking and driving. 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.080 Yes, it was really smart. 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.840 This episode I thought was well. First of all, what 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.720 episode Rob great question me? Season eight, episode twenty The 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.720 Man Who Sailed Around His Soul Air date May third, 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:14.800 twenty eleven. Synopsis reads as Nathan Julian and Clay coach 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.880 Jamie's first little League game. The situation regarding the accident 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.560 comes to a head. Meanwhile, Chase asks Alex to take 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.200 a drug test for him, and Quinn gets an offer 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:26.680 to shoot in Puerto Rico. It's directed by Greg Prange. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:32.120 Sweet Greg Prange. He he crushes, man, he crushes As 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.280 a director, he did. He always managed to give us 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:41.200 these episodes that were so filled with motion and emotion 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:47.480 and nostalgia and sweetness. And I wish we could ask 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.159 him what it was like being at this stage with 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:54.960 these characters, you know, as a dad directing like these 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.160 kids who essentially used to have to film being little punks, 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.360 like growing into parents. Wonder if that was cool for him. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:06.400 This he did great with this episode, and this This 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.320 was a lot of fun. Yeah, there was a little 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.599 bit of whiplash just because we had so many flashbacks. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.600 Yeah that by the time, by three quarters away through 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.880 the episode, every time they went into a medium shot 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.360 of somebody, I was like, Okay, here comes, here comes 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.159 the flashback. Where are we taking? Where are we going 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.719 with Chase on this one? Yeah, So there was a 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:31.040 lot of that, But dude, the storytelling worked and they 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.520 we packed so much into it, and just the runner 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.839 of Jamie's voiceover telling the story of the Mighty Casey 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:42.040 was so good and just all of it, like opening 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:43.720 with a national anthem and then we panned down to 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.440 see it's Madison playing it on her keyboard, but. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.920 By the way, playing it on her keyboard in the 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.280 middle of the baseball field with the keyboard set to 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:57.320 sound like an organ, like an old timey organ. I 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.640 loved it. It was so good. I was like, what, 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:04.880 what's six year old? It's choosing this? But it was perfect. 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:09.960 Yeah, that was so much fun. You go, what would 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:11.840 you give me some of your your thoughts, your standouts? 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.280 Oh man, you know, I just thought they did a 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:19.320 really great job with all of this emotion in these episodes. 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.400 And one of the things I really like because we've 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.920 talked a lot about how sometimes horrible things happen to 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.240 our characters, and then they just you know, we jump 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.960 a month and we never speak of them again. Nobody 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:35.240 processes anything. And you know this was obviously prior to 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:39.080 you joining us for your seasons. But back in the day, 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.880 Nathan went through like horrible thing after horrible thing after 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.600 horrible thing, you know, crashed a car at full speed 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:50.560 like a race car on a NASCAR track and never 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:56.520 was sent to therapy. And so I really am loving 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.280 seeing Julian in this space of his safe male friendships 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:05.200 with Clay and Nathan talking about how horrible this was, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.320 talking about what he had to see, what it was 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:12.360 like to watch Brooks lungs fill with water, to be 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:16.440 so angry at what happened to them, at almost losing Jamie, 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:20.320 at almost losing her, like to see a man processing 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:25.320 fear and suffering and it's all bubbling up now. I 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.760 love it. And I love seeing him alone at night 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:36.319 watching this footage. Oh my god, it's so sad. And 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.240 to recall, like from Thanksgiving, you know that he's just 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.920 been shooting everything. He shoots everything all the time, even 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:47.480 if we don't see it. And when he deletes that footage, 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.360 it's like no, But also, yeah, you're never gonna want 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:50.800 to watch that. 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.800 Yeah, it's like if you knew the end of this episode, Julian, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.439 you wouldn't delete it. But yeah, the name of self preservation, 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.160 like you got to get rid of that. But well, 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:05.559 that device worked so well. That was absolutely heartbreaking that 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:10.880 whole Yeah again, I had no idea you got pregnant, buddy. Yeah, man, 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.880 I just assumed you guys found someone else to adopt 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.720 or there was a surrogacy. And so when the ending 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.760 comes to jump ahead, that twist got me. 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:20.800 Yeah. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.319 I was so happy but so surprised by that. 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:28.880 Yeah, I know it was such a big deal, and 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:33.080 I love I love the roundabout way we get there. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.199 You know that Chase had a thing with Kid Cutty 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.120 and then needed a favor from Alex. But then it 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.760 turns out Quinn screws up Alex's ability to do the favor, 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.080 so she goes to Julian, but Julian's at home, and 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.120 so it's brooke. It's like it's sort of a comedy 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.839 of errors. And then it has this like a really 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.400 happy ending that's so sweet. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.600 It's like a classic heist movie. It's like like an 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.559 Ocean's eleven where they're like, yes, but wait, how did 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.840 the money end up in the bag not in the box, 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.400 and then they like flashed back to like four different 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:08.120 things that took place that was this episode. Yeah, I dude, 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.600 that was There were so many hurdles to get to 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:15.840 Brooke being pregnant that it was Brook's peak. I was like, wait, 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:20.719 first of all, the staging of Chase just like he 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:24.120 and Alex are obviously like back on, so they're clearly 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.080 like spending a lot of time, which is great. By 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.480 the way, I mean a huge Chase an Alex fan. 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.000 Same, I ship those two. 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.599 It just made me laugh that he it looked like 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.960 a clandest, like a clandestine like spy, like like an 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.320 information drop. He's at an airfield standing outside of his car. 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.960 She pulls up in her car and is like, what's up, Mike. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.280 Why wouldn't you guys meet at one of your places? 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:51.959 Yeah. Also, well, here's what I thought, because it felt 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.360 like a misdirect to me because Chase was late for 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.240 the Little League game, and obviously Chuck was so sad, 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:03.280 and Chuck been at Trick hanging out, and then Alex 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:08.679 was there, and in my brain I was like, oh, 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:12.840 is Chase waiting on Chuck's dad? Like is he at 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.200 the airport because he's supposed to pick this guy up 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.760 because he's finally convinced him to come back to town, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:19.840 and then he doesn't show up and he goes to 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:25.959 the game. But I was like, wait, what, why did 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.800 you You didn't just come down from a flying lesson? Yeah, 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.680 why is she meeting you? Like realizing that it had 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.080 nothing to do with Chuck at all made the airport 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:36.280 feel so weird to me. 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.520 Yeah, it was like someone had just watched Top Gun 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.360 and was like, we need to we need a shot 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.880 at an airfield at dusk. 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.160 Or you know. Someone in the writer's room was like, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.080 it's been seven episodes since we mentioned Chase's pilot license 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.960 and we really need to remind people, Like what it 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:55.240 was such a strange choice. 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.880 Yeah, Like, if you're Alex getting a text being like 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.080 meet me at the airfield asap, you'd be like, he's 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.680 either going to murder me and hide my body, or 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:05.719 he's dumping me. 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.960 Or maybe proposing to me because why taking a girl, 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:13.080 Like like, it's so it's such an extreme place. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.440 Yeah, it's like I am either going to become a 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:21.160 fiance or the subject of a dateline episode. These are 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:22.760 the only two scenario. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:24.920 Yeah, I'm about to get thrown out of an airplane 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:29.480 without a parach it. It's just so silly. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.840 It's so silly, man, that's silly. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:36.440 But there were actually some moments of genuine, properly connected 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:40.079 levity that I loved. You know, obviously, the mystery of 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:44.360 the Kellerman family is big, and we're in this sad 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:46.960 moment that we were just talking about with Julian watching 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:51.400 this precious footage and it's so heartbreaking. And then Nathan 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.839 storms in and goes, is this yours and takes a 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.880 swig of his whiskey and it's ginger ale perfect. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:58.400 Yeah, it's good for my tummy. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.720 It settles the stuff. Like it just it was so 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.480 funny to me, and I actually realized in that moment, 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:10.840 I go, see, this is the kind of dynamic that 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:15.640 isn't It's not like a caricature of people. This is 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.200 a funny dynamic where Nathan wants a whiskey and Julian 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.800 wants a ginger ale. Like that's a hilarious character note. 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.600 And I just loved the moment. And then he's just 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.480 like what, goes and pours himself a drink and is 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.640 explaining his Nancy drew aha of who it was and 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:36.959 how he knows, and it's you know, fiddlesticks. What's it called. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:41.280 I've forgotten already, Fidians, Fidians the bourbon? 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.640 Did you did? It seem odd to you that while 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:50.000 he is explaining and very fired up about a drinking 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.720 and driving incident, he's driving his friend's houses and immediately 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:53.400 starts drinking. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.400 Yes. In my brain, I was like, maybe we need 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:01.319 to clarify that Nathan and Hailey and Brooke and Julian 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.480 live very close to each other because they all live 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.520 on the water. So I'm like, maybe he walked over, 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.400 maybe he rode his bike. I don't know. 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.120 Yeah, this small thing. But I found myself going like, hey, yeah, 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.679 the outrage that everyone's feeling right now is around the 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.400 very thing you are preparing to do, sir, Yes. 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.600 Yes, yes, absolutely terrible choice. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.760 There was one other staging moment in this episode that 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:30.040 cracked me up. It was at Kellerman Ian Kellerman's scout. Yes, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:34.840 he's throwing pitches and all of the scouts are are 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.440 flanked out around him in a straight line on the 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.119 baseball field. They're not like sitting in the stands. 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:43.440 It's so weird. 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.280 There's just I don't I don't know if it's because 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:48.720 like maybe it was like they were short on time 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.200 that day and they were like, how do we just 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.320 get this in kind of like a wonner with's light coverage? 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.480 How do we not turn around? Okay, put him all 0:14:55.520 --> 0:15:00.360 standing next there that because that is absolutely not how 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.360 that would go. No, I want to get a good 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:07.880 look at this kid. I'm gonna stand behind him. What. No. 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:12.280 The whole thing was very strange to me because and 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.440 I'm realizing I've obviously never been to an athletic scout, 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.800 but every portrayal of one I've ever seen, the scouts 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.720 are in the stands, and I assume that's for a 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.120 reason because it's probably where the scouts go. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.280 Yeah, I've only ever seen scouts in the stands, so 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.360 that to have them sitting like to be on the 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:36.400 baseball diamond with him, all right? Sure? Yeah? 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.880 I was like, what is this happening here? 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.600 I had a bit of surprising positivity for this episode 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.000 coming from me, is this was my favorite version of 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:03.560 the theme song in a long time. I actually listened 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:07.960 to the whole thing. Wait, it's like a punk pop version, 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.280 and it was delightful. It was different enough that I 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.640 was like, oh, I can get on board for this. Yeah. Great. 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.480 I was running a little late today and I was like, 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.800 don't have time for the recap, and I skipped it. 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.120 Oh well, if you go back and watch it, it's 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.320 it's a fun like punk like pop punk. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:29.360 Though wait, I guess it can. Our producer Fairies tell 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.720 us who sings the song in this. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.960 Episode, because I like you. I normally hear, well, I 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.760 like you in this episode today I usually hear like 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:39.800 the first two bars, I'm like. 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:40.640 I'm good, I'm good. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.240 I skipped right over it. This sound was like ooh though, okay, 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:51.480 Oh I can listen to you against Me. It's the 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.960 name of the band. Well done against Me. You made 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.000 me fall back in love with the theme song. 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.520 Oh I love that now I want to go stream music. 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:04.360 One thing that this episode did, I mean, like I said, 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:10.800 it's so much fun and the the whole Kellerman storyline 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:16.880 I just thought was executed so well. And shout out 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.600 to Peter Reigert Regert, I don't know how you pronounced 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:24.160 his last name. Yeah, because we really got to see 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.479 that Kellerman was a layered guy. Because it was just 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:29.800 it was. He was doing it great, but Kellerman was 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:34.200 one note up until pretty much this episode, and then boy, 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.720 we got to see a lot of layers happening there, 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.000 and the stuff between he and Nathan was awesome. 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:48.880 Yeah, when he shifts from being Nathan's antagonist to all 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:53.360 their scenes together being two dads sort of talking across 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:58.359 the age divide of their sons, it's really beautiful and 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.440 in a weird way, it felt to me as a 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:07.280 viewer like Kellerman finally became the teacher that Nathan deserved, 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:13.200 you know, talking about life and loss and whether it's 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.840 right or wrong, what you'll sacrifice for your children, and 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:22.119 you know, all of these things that were really gorgeous. 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:26.880 And they're both very still actors who say a lot 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:30.600 when they're not talking. Even when they're not talking, I 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:34.760 should say, And I really enjoyed watching them just be 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:38.320 together and observe each other and realize that there was 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.280 so much more to the man they were speaking to 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.359 than they'd seen before. It was really nice. 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:49.960 Well, and they did a very very clever thing where 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.280 there was a scene on the boat at the end 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.160 with the two of them, with Nathan and August Kellerman, 0:18:56.359 --> 0:19:01.119 and there's a great exchange where it's sort of both 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:05.320 of them like acknowledging their own misstep and like kind 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:10.400 of making a repair. But Kellerman basically goes, I apologize, 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.720 I saw you, and I just I thought you were 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.760 my son, and Nathan goes, yeah, and I thought you 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.679 were my dad. And it was it was such a 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.560 viable pay off because it's so easy to go like, oh, 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:26.640 they just wrote the like the jerk professor, and it's 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.159 like it's a trope, it's lazy. But then you see, like, no, 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:30.800 there was actually thought put into it. 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:36.200 Yes, yes, and you realize what you realize what each 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.760 of the of these men was triggered by and why 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.840 they couldn't really even make space for each other as 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.760 new people because they remind each other of the people 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.600 that have really let them down and hurt them. And 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:54.000 it was so cool and I loved I just loved 0:19:54.040 --> 0:20:00.800 getting to learn a little bit about time us Air Kellerman, 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.520 because even though we don't have to talk about it, 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:08.840 they don't talk about it. Nathan has, by the happenstance 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.520 of his life, made a lot of time for his family, 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:14.800 and here's this man saying I had this plan with 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:19.199 my wife and I just never took the time and 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.480 now she's gone, so I'm going to go do this 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:26.800 thing for the both of us. And Nathan didn't need 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:33.400 to say anything, right, but you could see the generational 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.159 divide between granted they're different, but men like Dan Scott 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.240 and August Kellerman and a man like Nathan Scott. 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.320 Yeah, and it I don't know. 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:46.000 I just thought it was like a very powerful device. 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:51.480 Did you notice or did it bother you that Kellerman 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.480 has an Igloo cooler on his boat full of beer 0:20:56.359 --> 0:21:00.160 and water when he's made a point of say saying 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:02.399 he hasn't had a drink since his wife died and 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.160 he is literally about to take off on the ocean 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:06.720 on a boat by himself. 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:14.439 Yeah, I really think that was It must have just 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:17.879 been a screw up on the on the prop departments part, 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:21.199 like they're so used to, Oh, character is going to 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.399 the boat. So we packed the cooler with the drinks 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:25.800 and the waters and the things, and I just think 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.840 nobody was paying attention. Or maybe it was non alcoholic 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:30.919 beer and we just never got a close up to see. 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:33.320 But either way, just don't have it in the shop. 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.000 Yeah, we'll just have him hand Nathan a bottle of water. 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:37.760 They're already in there. It just it was odd to 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:39.640 me because we went out of our way to establish 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.560 that he has not had a drop of alcohol since 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.919 his wife passed, and then he's like, oh, hey, you 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:45.679 showed up. I was about to leave with this cooler 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:47.640 of beers and sell them ill the oceans. 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.639 Stupid, really, like what are we doing? 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:57.119 But back to Peter Regert, to his credit, like he 0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:59.800 did such a good job, because I actually found myself 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:04.600 feeling very sorry for August Kellerman me too that, like, 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:07.760 he clearly liked what he did and he forfeited it 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:11.159 for his son. But up to an episode ago, he 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.720 was just such a jerk, you know. But like, to 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.080 his credit as an actor, he was able to layer 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:19.879 in enough stuff that by the time this came and 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:23.679 the truth came out, it was like, no, no, buddy, 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:26.520 Oh you're falling on the sword for the wrong guy. 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.560 But you're a good guy, so you're doing it okay. 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:31.480 Falling on the sword for the wrong guy is my 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:37.520 perfect segue to how much I love Clay, Julian and 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:41.399 Nathan as a trio. Taking this kid out to that 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:47.480 bridge and just wailing on him. You knocking him into 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:51.399 the water. I was like, yes, Rob Austin, He's like 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:54.320 trying to drown him. And then you think Nathan's going 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.280 to be the one, like calm guy, and he gives 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:58.760 him a hand and then freaking punches him right in 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:03.239 the face. Like yeah, it just I loved it. I 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:05.399 loved how real it felt. It was. It was a 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:09.520 little awkward because you know what fights are ever choreographed 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.639 like they are in action movies, And I don't know, 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:14.280