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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing

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Speaker 1: and Heels for your weekly dose of glamour, inspiration and fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm out this week, but wanted to reshare one of

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Speaker 1: my very favorite episodes with all of you. Enjoy one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite fashion episodes in case you missed it.

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Speaker 1: Today on the pod, I'm talking to one of the

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Speaker 1: most talented and badass celebrities stylists, Danny Michelle. Her clients

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Speaker 1: include just a few people that you've heard of, Hailey Bieber,

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Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner, Alsa hask just to name a few. Danny

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Speaker 1: has carved out a pretty incredible career in fashion and

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Speaker 1: her story is so inspiring in general, but of course

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Speaker 1: especially if you are interested in fashion styling or just

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Speaker 1: the editorial world.

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Speaker 2: Her new jewelry line Mega is so perfect.

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Speaker 1: I literally wear her pieces almost every day. I always

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Speaker 1: love chatting with another stylist. It's really just like revisiting,

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Speaker 1: you know, my past. And I just love her passion.

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Speaker 1: I love her love for the game, her work ethic.

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Speaker 1: She's so impressive. So let's get into it. So I

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Speaker 1: just want to first without digging too much into your

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Speaker 1: early early beginnings, like what on earth made you start

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Speaker 1: to do this?

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Speaker 2: And like at what point, like where where did you

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Speaker 2: grow up?

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Speaker 3: First of all, so I grew up really in the

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Speaker 3: toomic Maryland, but I went to school in DC. My

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Speaker 3: friends lived in DC, I worked in DC. So I

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Speaker 3: felt like DC was my home. That's what I always say.

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Speaker 3: And so I'm an East girl.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense. That that definitely makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But by the way, sorry DC, but I would never

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Speaker 1: consider it a fashion city.

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Speaker 3: No, no, However, I really think that it plays a

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Speaker 3: huge role in my respective and fashion because we had

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Speaker 3: a huge music scene. So it was like the man

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Speaker 3: I could rebel. And I had a very like liberal

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Speaker 3: high school. So we were going to concerts on Tuesday

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Speaker 3: nights of like some of the best bands, like like Things,

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Speaker 3: people that headline Coachella, you know, two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 3: hundred person little room with them, and so I had

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Speaker 3: this influence of music and then at the same time,

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Speaker 3: I had this really like manicured, sophisticated perspective of like,

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Speaker 3: you know, a very proper upbringing. So I feel like

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Speaker 3: those two depositions of being like really poised and polished

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Speaker 3: and then all being like a rebel and unique like

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Speaker 3: come together and that was a huge part of being

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Speaker 1: So you come from a family that's a little more

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Speaker 1: like traditional and proper.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like holidays like skirty below my knees, like

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Speaker 3: nothing could show from like neck to anywhere, like studhake,

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Speaker 3: I packed elbows off the table, you know.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, Okay, see I would not I would never

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Speaker 3: My family was Southern, and it was just like very

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Speaker 3: expect high expectations of like you know, where you come

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Speaker 3: in a really positive way, you know, with really strong ethics.

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Speaker 2: Worlds you know, which quite frankly I crave.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I actually took my kids out of

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Speaker 1: traditional school because I actually really I just I love manners.

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Speaker 1: I love manners and I and I love when people

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Speaker 1: look at you when you say hello to them.

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Speaker 2: I do. I do like that.

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Speaker 1: I do, But I do think but I think that

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Speaker 1: I think there's a balance, you know, I think there's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I think the kids that I don't want

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Speaker 3: to speak to people that like, I think you always rebel.

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Speaker 4: From what of course you know, of course you were.

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Speaker 3: Of course I think that as long as we started

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Speaker 3: then you find your path where you're supposed to be,

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Speaker 3: and you go somewhere you find your own world. But

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Speaker 1: And so when did you leave? When did you leave

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Speaker 2: Were you like, I'm out of here. I don't want

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Speaker 3: Like, I went to the same school from kindergarten until

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Speaker 3: University of I was going to go to n YU.

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Speaker 2: I was like, NY two, that's what I made too.

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Speaker 4: I went to did you go to NYO?

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Speaker 1: No, my parents wouldn't let me. They said, New York's

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Speaker 2: See it. When you get back, you're not saying where'd

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Speaker 1: I went to George Washington because they were like, well

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Speaker 4: Where you from?

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Speaker 2: I'm from New York and New Jersey from Short Hills.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, so my mom, my mom moved to Livingston.

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Speaker 2: So I know next door, you know it. Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: So I went to you just to like hang out

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Speaker 3: I made like great friends and I'm still girl friends

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Speaker 1: That's what I always say about college, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: For me, like the biggest purpose that college serve for

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Speaker 3: I just go to these and again not just speak

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Speaker 3: I believe everything happens as it showed, and I think

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Speaker 1: And then you were like, Okay, so new York here

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Speaker 3: With everyone from DC goes to New York. That's like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, why that was my tea.

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Speaker 2: It's my only job I had.

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Speaker 1: My only job I ever had, I worked at I

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Speaker 3: It was seventeen. I was in the accessories apartment and

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what I thought, but I think

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Speaker 4: We didn't know what it was.

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Speaker 3: And your show was in two thousand and eight was

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Speaker 4: It all came at this like perfect storm.

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Speaker 3: Like transition from like I just felt I was this

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Speaker 1: I've never left, no way. And were you single? Were

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Speaker 4: I had never been here before, did not know one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I got this apartment off of my space.

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Speaker 3: This girl, this girl had this really great like you know,

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Speaker 4: I took the spot.

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Speaker 2: How wild is that? See?

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Speaker 1: When I moved here, I had I had a whole

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Speaker 1: I was spending like eighty percent of my time here styling.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, why am I going back and forth?

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Speaker 1: I've always wanted to live here, and here I am

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Speaker 1: twenty years later.

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Speaker 2: So it kind of eats you that way.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy that you're interviewing me because the first time

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Speaker 3: like a week, I like kept thinking about everything you

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Speaker 3: were saying. Your story is so incredible and so sweet, legendary. Really,

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Speaker 4: And everywhere I went, I would be like.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, yeah it didn't in my case, but

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what I'm wearing?

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Speaker 1: So what what you create with? So what are like,

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Speaker 1: you never leave, You end up working for Michelle, which

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Speaker 1: because I always like, it's boot camp, right, and especially

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Speaker 1: It was because you had to be prepared for everything, right, Yeah.

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00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 4: I want to hear those stories, Rachel.

446
00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:01,239
Speaker 1: So there are so many stories.

447
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 4: Which is crazy.

448
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,479
Speaker 3: Like someone just asked me something yesterday and I'm like, like,

449
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 3: I can't there was a country I've opened to Croatia.

450
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 4: I can't even remember going to Croatia.

451
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that happened to me the other day.

452
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: Someone just like, oh my god, I'm dying to go

453
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: to Prague. And then literally like someone goes, Rachel, didn't

454
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: you go there for like a briad pitch? And I'm

455
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: like I did. I actually went there. I did go there.

456
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: I was there for two weeks. What was your favorite part?

457
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember a bridge and a hotel and

458
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: literally that's it.

459
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: A bridge at There's.

460
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 3: So much I always say, is that because we're like

461
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: so detail oriented, Like in my office there's thousands of

462
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 3: pieces and I could like tell you a backstory about

463
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 3: sayings one of the things, what job they came from?

464
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 3: Like like sometimes when we be like purges and I'm

465
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 3: like no, no, no, you guys, I'm like this piece

466
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 3: and like I have such insane short term like there

467
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: is nothing you could ask me, though I wouldn't know

468
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 3: going on that.

469
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 4: I think that it's like for my long term.

470
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: Has like yeah, it won't come back to you till

471
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: people interview you, like and all of a sudden, it's

472
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 1: a little bit of like this is your life. Like

473
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: I'll be like, Rachel, you did this and you did

474
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,479
Speaker 1: this album and you were here dressing them for this

475
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like.

476
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 2: M, you're right.

477
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 4: I was.

478
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right I was.

479
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: And it's so funny like sometimes you have those moments,

480
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 1: but it does. It did teach me sort of like

481
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 1: as I move forward in work, like try to like

482
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: try to experience it, you know what I mean.

483
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: Tried it, but it's hard. You can't because it's it's like.

484
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: This, and especially when you know being a stylist, you're

485
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: in the service business, right, so it's it's you you

486
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: almost take your whole self out, you go, what do

487
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: you need?

488
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: Who needs this?

489
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 1: D da da right like and it's it's like flashes

490
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 1: of light.

491
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 3: That honestly is like such like an important sentence. So

492
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people a forget that, like,

493
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 3: you know, service business from the perspective of like how

494
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 3: hard we give, Like sometimes when I come home, I'm

495
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: just so drained because my whole day is emotionally and

496
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 3: mentally and creatively giving to other people. And I think

497
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 3: that also, like for the younger generation that forgets like

498
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 3: this is a really hard job.

499
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 4: It is hard, difficult, and.

500
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: I think that going back to what you said, it's

501
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: like only the people that like are really passionate about

502
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 3: it and that are not just chasing the money but

503
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 3: chasing their creativity and their relationships and the connections, and

504
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: like the moment is like when when they'll succeed, because

505
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 3: you have to give it one hundred and ten percent

506
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: and it takes a.

507
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 4: Lot, a lot out of you.

508
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: So it's like we have to be really dedicated and

509
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 3: really want it and really care.

510
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: And you are married, correct, I am tell me everything.

511
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: So where did you meet Prince Tremy?

512
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 4: We met.

513
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 3: It's like a it's like another whole podcast on itself,

514
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 3: so I'll keep it that we met at a dinner party.

515
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 3: I was on a first date and he was on

516
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: a second date. I showed up like on the back

517
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 3: of this motorcycle was an Italian man and he was like,

518
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: I came out in my rigel, I took the helmet off,

519
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: I like shook my hair so like my hair wasn't black,

520
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: and he saw me and he was like, I want

521
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: a woman like that one.

522
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw him.

523
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: He did this matter check and I was like, you.

524
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: Did a magic check.

525
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 4: No, he did a magic check.

526
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 3: On me while using his date as like his his

527
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 3: you know. So she was like I knew you always

528
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: had a thing for her. But either way, that night

529
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 3: we like super connected. But we stayed dating our people

530
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 3: I want for about a year. Finally, about a year later,

531
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: it was after like a fashion event that we ran

532
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 3: each other. I was like, I'm going to Hevingways and

533
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 3: I was like you should come, and I was like

534
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: live a little bit and he came and we like

535
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: danced all night, and then we told each other that

536
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: we had feelings for each other. And then eventually I

537
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: told the guy that I was dating and I said like,

538
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry I had feelings for someone else, and

539
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 3: he was like actually, he was like and he was

540
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 3: such a beautiful human and he was so like it

541
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: was exactly what I did in that time my life

542
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: and I'm so grateful that relationship. But he was like,

543
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: you know what, he was like, I see that for

544
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: you and I think that you're going to marry him.

545
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, he like totally gave me.

546
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 3: His blessing and then fast forward we got married.

547
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 2: That's wow, he said.

548
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: He goes.

549
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: He either said, I think you're gonna have his baby

550
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 3: one day or I think you're gonna get married one

551
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: of the two.

552
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: He did one of those things, but gave me full blessing.

553
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: Wow. And you did have a baby.

554
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a baby right three. Yeah, Oh my.

555
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 3: God, which I also asked you about when we met

556
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: because I was like so sure that I need to

557
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: have a girl. And having a boy is like the

558
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 3: greatest thing that's ever happened to me.

559
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: It's a love affair that is indescribable. I don't know

560
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: what else to say.

561
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 4: Relief.

562
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: And he just entered the cuddle phase. He's never wanted

563
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: a cuddle. It started two nights ago. I just got

564
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 3: like my first like in bed, like under the arm,

565
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 3: like wrapped around to Yeah, it's like mommy bear, baby

566
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: bear huddle in this morning, I got out bet his

567
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 3: little sid don't leave me here.

568
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 4: Like it just happened two nights ago, and it's like incredible.

569
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to make you feel better. Mine is

570
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: almost thirteen and my little one is just turned ten,

571
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: and they're both under my arms, still wrapped around me

572
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: literally every night, every night, and every morning. I will

573
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: do it until they go to college. If they let me,

574
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: I will. I'm such a zicho. I literally cannot let

575
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: go of them. They make everything better.

576
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: They make me.

577
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: Just happy. They actually told me that I should go

578
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: back to styling. They go, Mommy, the way you talk

579
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: about styling, Mommy, you should do it again someday.

580
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's funny.

581
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: They go, you know, you style us, but I feel

582
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: like you probably want to put pretty long dresses on.

583
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

584
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: Well, they haven't seen my show Sky. They's begging me

585
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: to watch it, and I'm like.

586
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: Oh stop, I don't think I'm there yet. I think

587
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: there's too much.

588
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: You know, you know, I have gone back, like I

589
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: think after I met you that night, I was like,

590
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: oh that.

591
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 4: I was like, watch an episode.

592
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: It's wild, maybe a slide.

593
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 4: In your studio and the dresses got wet.

594
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: That was one of the worst days of my life.

595
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: I of the worst days of my life. And you

596
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: know there were many, but I you know, I mean

597
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: when it rained on the globes and I had five

598
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: clients in long gowns and then every single picture of

599
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: every single one of them was holding an umbrella holding

600
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: the train up, and.

601
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: I was like, I quit.

602
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's so weird because I had so much

603
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: of my life and my emotion. I think if I

604
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: like watch it, it's just going to be like this

605
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: is your life kind of thing, because like you said,

606
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: it's a.

607
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 2: Bit of a blackout for me. The show.

608
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: It was such a hard thing to do because I

609
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: was working, like you're working now, right, I was styling,

610
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: but I was also like I started my media business

611
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: and these other things. But then I had to shoot

612
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: the show like five days a week, and it was

613
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: sort of like not it took nine months, you know,

614
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: and so it was just mental and I would just

615
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: be like I need to work, like I actually need.

616
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: To do my job, you know.

617
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: But in hindsight, what it meant to people and what

618
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: it did for people for me, makes every bit of

619
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: it worth it, truthfully, because it really to know that

620
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: it had an impact on, you know, people like you,

621
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: or people going through the hardest time in their lives

622
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: and couldn't get out of bed, you know, things like that.

623
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: For me, helped me reprioritize the purpose of what I

624
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: was doing, you know what I mean. And I think

625
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: like it definitely, I think, in hindsight, really helped redirect

626
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: and focus my real mission for everything I do in

627
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: my job and for the brand, everything about it and

628
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: what I want to always do for women, right.

629
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: And so.

630
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: I think, like with styling, I just felt like it was,

631
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: like you said, it was like this unknown thing, right.

632
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: And so I think for people like you now that

633
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: are bringing you know, these women that are so they

634
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: love you and they support you, right, and these girls

635
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: are like your friends. And I think, you know, it's

636
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: such an intimate relationship being a stylist, and I was

637
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: so personally invested in it, you know, And like you said,

638
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: I think it's hard because I think when you love

639
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: it that much and you care about it that much

640
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: and you care about the people so much, right, it's

641
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: like it's not a fake best friend, right, It's like

642
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: you're in there.

643
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: You're in the studio.

644
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: Like I would sit with my clients till three in

645
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: the morning and we would have like you know, champagne,

646
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: to tea, to breakfast, to this, to that, and like

647
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: forty outfits later and like play dress up and all

648
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: the things, and then you know, and then these looks

649
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: come out of it, like born out of those moments,

650
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, and it's incredibly rewarding, you know, in the

651
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: sense of like when your client looks at you and

652
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: was like, uh, we did it, or like I've never

653
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: felt so beautiful, or like that was a great one,

654
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: or like you know, don't you just aren't those the

655
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: pinch mean moments.

656
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: For me, those were the pinch me moments.

657
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a thousand percent I always say that,

658
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: Like for me, the only like I don't read comments.

659
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 4: I don't read like.

660
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: Now you can't, you can't, you can't, I really don't.

661
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 3: The only thing that matters to me is that they're happy. Sure,

662
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: and when they tell you that they're happier they felt

663
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: like a million backs of the day or like basically

664
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: like any of those things, I'm like, that's when I'm

665
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: just like, oh, like it'll change my whole day. Like

666
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: I'm so happy when they are happy, and like I know,

667
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: like that's the sign of like real love, you know.

668
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: Or it's just like listen, I think at the end

669
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: of the day, you're living your dream. Now you launch

670
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: a jewelry line called Mega, which I personally love and

671
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: like I literally opened it and put it on. And

672
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: so I think, now, like obviously starting the jewelry line,

673
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: you're starting to I think, look at okay, so what's

674
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: another passion and what am I doing right? Because it's

675
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: because it's a big jump, right, like whenever you start

676
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: to divert from what you're doing, You're like, Okay, this

677
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: is scary, but I'm doing it.

678
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: It felt like the right thing for me because I

679
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: really feel like I found my place in fashion where

680
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be. I think that creating a fashion

681
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: line would have been it would have been so conflicting

682
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: to my creativity. And I think that I've always been

683
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: passionate about Juelie for me, like it's super sentimental and

684
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: it's it's what I've like splurged on when I like

685
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: want something to like signify something like for me, I

686
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: asked for jewelry for a graduation for you know, my

687
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: thirtieth birthday, for my thirty fifth birthday, anything it's significant

688
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: to me. My push gift Valentine's Day, Like all I

689
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: want are a little I get usually like a ring

690
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: or something that I feel like I thought I would

691
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: stack them all up. Each of those little pieces were

692
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: like memories and accomplishments and meaningful parts of my timeline.

693
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: And that's how it really started with me stacking a

694
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: bunch of rings, because everything really had a backstory of

695
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: like a meeting to me, and I just felt like,

696
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: you know, my mom is a Julie designer for the

697
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: past ten years. She pivoted after she sold her business,

698
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: and it just always felt like something sentimental and personal

699
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: to me, and it felt like just a no brainer

700
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: of like where I should be and what I should

701
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: be doing. And so my mom and I partnered on

702
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: this together. She does all production and I do creative

703
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: and we obviously like ideas together.

704
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: But she's so fun. That is so much fun.

705
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: I did not know that even talk more every day,

706
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: so it's great.

707
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: I did not know that. So why the name Mega?

708
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: So Vogue had called me a megawatt stilast and that

709
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: was like one of those moments where I was like

710
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: did you read that? I And I even had to

711
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: like google it. I was like, what does Mega want me?

712
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: Because I know this like you know a title, but

713
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: like let me just read into it. And it was

714
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: it was after that article, I was like, what am

715
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: I doing with myself? Like what is text?

716
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: You know?

717
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: And so when I was putting together all my creative

718
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: boards and you know, every folder, I would just put

719
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: MEGA because that's just kind of like that was at

720
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: that moment where I was like, Okay, let's let's do something.

721
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: And so all of my followers and we did so

722
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: much like you know those like name searching diagram. I mean,

723
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: I was doing French, I was doing and we did

724
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: MEGA in French, but I speak French, and I was

725
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: doing Italian. I was doing everything, and I was just

726
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: trying to find the right word, and I kept coming

727
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: back to Mega because for me, it just felt like

728
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: so like large than life, one of a strong bold

729
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: like the four letters was just so crisp to me,

730
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: and it felt like who the woman was with someone

731
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: that was like minimal but strong and bold and confident

732
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 3: and just felt right. So I did so much searching

733
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: and I came back to.

734
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: That, to that word. I love it. You're so sweet.

735
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 4: One day, I hope I'll get to like ask.

736
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: You more questions or so you can ask me anything anytime, seriously, anytime.

737
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: We'll go for a glass of shamps and talk the top,

738
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: talk the dog, because god, there's talk. But yeah, I

739
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: promised to do that.

740
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: I think that if I could like leave with like

741
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: one idea of like this business that I feel like

742
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: I always like struggle with what I could.

743
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 4: Do to like share my story because I.

744
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 3: Can't even tell you how many people, like probably once

745
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: a week I get an email.

746
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: It's like how do I become you.

747
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: Like my store, I mean for my school project, or

748
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: like could I just ask you what you know, like

749
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: what your experience was, Like I know that there's so

750
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: many people dying to hear these stories, and nonetheless I

751
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 3: could never have each of these individual conversations. I always

752
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 3: try to think about, like what platform I could share

753
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 3: like the true story with. And I think that one

754
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: of the questions when we were discussing like what we

755
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: would talk about was just like what are your three

756
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 3: pieces of advice? And I feel like if I could

757
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: just share with the kiddos, I feel like the three

758
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: things is like for me, which have really been like

759
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: tried and true is like to be kind, you know?

760
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: Is that I think that when people let their ego change,

761
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: like what their intention is, you know, these relationships with

762
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: your team, with the showrooms, with the stores, with the designers,

763
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: with your clients, with their assistance. Like all of these

764
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: relationships is what craftier entire business, right. It crafts who

765
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 3: you are, where you will go, and what you will

766
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: succeed with. And I just feel like sometimes people forget

767
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: they think that they're better than someone, or that they're

768
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: in a different position than someone, and we are all

769
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: in a web working together, and it would not be

770
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: possible without each of those people. If the designers weren't

771
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 3: making the clothes, if the showrooms weren't wrapping them, at

772
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 3: the store associates weren't helping you, if the assistant.

773
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: Wasn't scheduling the fitting.

774
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 3: Like, we are all in this together, and we have

775
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 3: to treat everyone like kindness and respect and like that

776
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: those relationships will lead to like your success in a

777
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: genuine way, Like you can't you have to really care

778
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: from your heart.

779
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: If you don't like it won't it just won't be genuine.

780
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 3: But when you really do care and you really find

781
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: that respect for everyone, like that is so pivotal, I

782
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: think to success, I always say, like give everything, go ahead.

783
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: No, I want to comment on that, because the best

784
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: of the best are always the kindest and I can

785
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: tell you that firsthand.

786
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: I can tell you that.

787
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: And your reputation is all you have to stand on

788
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: in business, and it's people can see when you're not

789
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: genuine they can And so kindness is first and foremost,

790
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: literally the most important thing you do in business, and

791
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: it's treating the person at craft services, the person doing

792
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: the lighting, the person, the person at the door.

793
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.

794
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: And people that think otherwise will never ever ever last

795
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: in the business, especially today in days of past. Maybe

796
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: you can be an asshole, you cannot be an asshole.

797
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: You have to treat people with kindness, but genuine and

798
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: first and foremost. And Peter Limberg, I have to tell you,

799
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: was the best example of that because he was the kindest,

800
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: most brilliant photographer, and working with him was such a

801
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: gift because the way that he talked to people, the

802
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: way that he treated people, how gentle he was, how

803
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: kind he was to every single person on set, no ego, nothing,

804
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: And I tell anyone that will listen in any position

805
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: that that's how you win. You will last forever if

806
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: you are good to people.

807
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 2: Everyone.

808
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I walk off set and like I like tell

809
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: the grif and like the team. I'm like good chops

810
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 3: to you guys, like you killed it because if it weren't,

811
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 3: I'm doing epic writing like what it's my fashion saying you.

812
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: Know it's true, if every one is.

813
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: So important, and I really like wholeheartedly believe that, And

814
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 3: I'm glad you even brought off like you know, the

815
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: crafty behind the scenes people like all in it together.

816
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 4: There's no one I don't care you're following or what.

817
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: There is no one more valuable on the set than

818
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 4: anyone else.

819
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: Like except for the talent that we're all we're all yeah,

820
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: And then I think like giving everything one hundred and

821
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: ten percent. I feel like I can't tell you how

822
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: many times I would like it'd be the end of

823
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: the day, the last or after like three days of

824
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: like out and about, and I'd be like, oh, do

825
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: I like need to go there? Like my car is

826
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: fulled to the top, like do I really need to go?

827
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: And I can't tell you how many times it'd be

828
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 3: the last stop and that.

829
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 4: Would be the look like of course, And I like,

830
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: thank god, like I never gave up.

831
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 3: I did everything over and above into what you were

832
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: saying your clients like you gave them, like you went

833
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: over above, and like I know my clients know that

834
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: I do that. I know that they know I'm thinking

835
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: about them all the time. That like when I'm not

836
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: on a job with them, I'm still thinking about them.

837
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: And when I do a job, I like work from

838
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: it from the moment they tell me to like the

839
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: finish line, like it's it's so important because like every

840
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: detail tells the whole story. And like I always like

841
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: leave no rock and turn. And then I think to

842
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: what you just said about like your reputation, like it's

843
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: the one thing you can't buy, and once that reputation

844
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: like is gone, there's nothing you can do to fix it.

845
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people think that this

846
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: is some race and they think that because there's Instagram

847
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: now that like there's this immediate satisfaction that like they

848
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: can like they should be a sturtplace so fast, and

849
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: it's like it's a marathon and there's.

850
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 4: No one thing that will like get you to the end.

851
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: You have to you need every little step along the

852
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: way because you learn from every step and everything that

853
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: you do, you like learn so much from and everything

854
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: you do is valuable. And I just think that you

855
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 3: have to like give everything it's full like experience because

856
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: it will lead to something else. And you have to

857
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: like understand the longevity of your career.

858
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: If you want a long career, say yes, yeah, coming up,

859
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: say yes to everything for you everything.

860
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: And I think, what's like so crazy is that there

861
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: were so many times where I like wanted to quit

862
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 3: or I wanted to like up because.

863
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 4: It was an incredibly different time.

864
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 3: If you remember, all we had was a website, right,

865
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: there was no Instagram.

866
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: So if I went, I had a portfolio.

867
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: I remember having my prints at all book that I

868
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: would bring into an office it was and if I

869
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: was a discouraged because I would go do something great, right,

870
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: I would. I remember I was working with Douglas Kirtland,

871
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: who was the last photographer to shoot Marylynd Monroe.

872
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: We would do these incredible things together. I was shooting

873
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 4: with for you know, I.

874
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: Was so young when we were doing like Vanity Fair,

875
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 3: but I had no one to show it to. Right,

876
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 3: I would do this amazing story and then there was

877
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: no platform. It would be in a magazine, great, like

878
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: someone would read the magazine, but there was no way

879
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: to show anyone, like, look what I'm doing, and look

880
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: what I'm capable of doing. So I had to grow

881
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: my entire business by every time going on set and

882
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 3: someone being like this girl is so great, you should

883
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 3: use her. This girl is so great, And that's obviously

884
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: what happened. And it would come from the publicist or

885
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 3: the makeup person or the assistant.

886
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 4: Like everything said to something.

887
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: But it took a really really long time because there

888
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: was no platform to show people what you could do.

889
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 3: When today these little girls are dressing themselves and they're like,

890
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: you know, look.

891
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: At the silist.

892
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: You know. But it was such a long process and

893
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 3: I had it was really hard, and I blood sweat

894
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: and tears. Like my husband was telling me these stories

895
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: like do you's, like do you remember? Like literally I

896
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 3: checked everything myself and like checked in and out like

897
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 3: I did everything myself, you know, Like I literally grew

898
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 3: this entire thing myself. And I don't I don't forget

899
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 3: those things. And I think that a lot of people

900
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: today like are racing and it's like, so it will come.

901
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 3: I promise you it will come if you're if you

902
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: follow those steps, if you're a good person, if you

903
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: give it one hundred percent, if you do business the

904
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: right way. Like if you say yes, every opportunity like

905
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 3: your pie will come.

906
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: I promise it's true.

907
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: But you have listen, I scream at every mountaintop you

908
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: got to do the work. You got to do the work.

909
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: You got you have to do the work. And that

910
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: is the biggest problem with this generation right now. I'm

911
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: sorry to generalize, but like it's across the board in

912
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: every in every industry. And I think to your point,

913
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: because everyone's looking at highlight rails right on social media

914
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: and you know, you still have to do the brick

915
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: by brick. It can be faster than it was for us,

916
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: but like it's just blood, sweat and tears at the

917
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: end of the day, and you have to do it

918
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: that way because you learn from it.

919
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: You from it.

920
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: I was taping little taxi receipts and food receipts for

921
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: like for like one hundred thousand dollars wardrobe budgets, and

922
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: I would turn in like a hundred pages of like

923
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: xerox paper on both sides with a glistick of all

924
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: my expenses. And so you know, I think that those

925
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: things are the things that shape you. So it's like

926
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: to your point, it's like I say to people coming up,

927
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: it's like those like sort of war wounds are what

928
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: what makes you really and it makes you grateful.

929
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 4: And I read this one quote.

930
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: It was actually I think from like a painter or no,

931
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: it was something that was like it was basically an artist,

932
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 3: and he was like he was justifying his rate, right,

933
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: and he was like, you're not paying for my rate

934
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: for what I'm doing today and tomorrow. You're paying for

935
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: everything I have learned along this entire way and everything

936
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: that I'm going to like all of the knowledge that

937
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: i have at this level to the table. So I

938
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: feel like when it's like people at our level, I've

939
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: been doing this for over fifteen years, like when you're

940
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: asking for a certain rate, it's because like you have

941
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: so much experience, Like if I know I need something,

942
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: I know exactly where to get it. Had to get

943
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: in the best version of it because I've done it

944
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 3: so many times. And I feel like the younger people

945
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: when they like think they should get the same rates

946
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: as us, I'm like, you, you there are so many

947
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 3: experiences that you've never been in that you won't even

948
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: know how to handle that, like have grace, have patients,

949
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: like it will come.

950
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 4: But it's I have so.

951
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 3: Many layers of like everything that I have that I've

952
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: experienced to be to am right now.

953
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: It's the wisdom. It's the wisdom. And I like to

954
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: say the war winds.

955
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: For better, for better or for worse, but they're there

956
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: and I think it's what makes us. And I think

957
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: it's again the same in any industry, and I think

958
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: you have to you have to put in and I

959
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, again, the stars stand out and ultimately you

960
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: stand out and you're crushing it and the girls know

961
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: it and it's and you love it and you love

962
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: it and you're doing it and you're building mega with

963
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: your mom, which is so beautiful.

964
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: If you told me, like you know, when they say,

965
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: like where do you see yourself in five years? Like

966
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: I do, think there's something so real right because like

967
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 3: the things that like I I if you told me

968
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: for my clients, I'd be like, you're crazy.

969
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 4: And it's a dream. I'm living this dream.

970
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: And then on top of it, like I consult for

971
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: this huge company that's incredibly exciting for me. I'm a

972
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: creative director of this huge company that's exciting for me.

973
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: And I realized to say what it is or no.

974
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: I am a fashion consultant for Sony Pictures, amazing. I

975
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: just took on the role of creative director for Joe's Jeans, amazing.

976
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: I launched my Jeweli brand, and I have a dream

977
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 3: stiling business. And it's like, it's just so incredible because

978
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 3: if you had asked me five years ago, I would say,

979
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, I know, I would have said I

980
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: would love to create direct for a brand and I

981
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: would love to consult like those were I thought the

982
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 3: next step of things, like a bigger picture project.

983
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 4: And I have these bigger picture projects.

984
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: So it's really incredible to like forecast and to like

985
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 3: put your heart in something. And I don't think about

986
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: it on the daily, but it probably like.

987
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 4: In the realm, you know.

988
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I you know, it's funny because I

989
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: don't know that I ever projected, and I think it's

990
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: amazing to see that you kind of you had that

991
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: idea that that's what you wanted to do for the

992
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: next step and it happened. And I think it's also

993
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: patients because it's also not saying tomorrow right, you're saying

994
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: in my five year I hope to be doing this right.

995
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, So now I got to set my next five years.

996
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: I believe it's called manifesting, right, I believe it's called manifesting.

997
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: I'm trying this so far I suck at it. I

998
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: have to say no.

999
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: But I think it's like it's things that just like

1000
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: sink into your system, you know what I mean. Like

1001
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: it's not like you're facing it. It's not like you're

1002
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 3: like this, like if you're looking for like it won't happen.

1003
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: It's just like you like think about it, you say it,

1004
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: you feel it, and then you like go live it.

1005
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 3: And I just think that, you know, maybe it's working.

1006
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: It's working, Danny, it's working, and you're a mama and

1007
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: you're married, and it's all the things. I feel like,

1008
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: you're living all the dreams. So pinch yourself now. Pinch

1009
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: yourself now so that you remember that you're living all

1010
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: the things in all the dreams.

1011
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 4: You know.

1012
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: It's also so interesting is that I don't I think

1013
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: one of the other reasons of my success is that

1014
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: I don't think about it is that I don't I

1015
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: don't ever like I've never changed, like you know, I

1016
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: don't wear makeup, I don't like I wear flats, like

1017
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: all right, I like to wear heel.

1018
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 2: You're also like five ton, Yeah, like I just like I.

1019
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: Just I'm so focused on like what I'm doing that

1020
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: I've never I've never thought about global. I've never thought

1021
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: about I don't think about the clients that way. I

1022
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: just think, like, this is my job and I need

1023
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: to go give it one hundred percent.

1024
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 4: And like I don't.

1025
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: I've never changed in that respect.

1026
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: You can.

1027
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: You can't if you start thinking about it, right, you

1028
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 3: read the comments of this, you coul psyche yourself out.

1029
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: Like you just have to be like focus on what

1030
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: you're doing. And I think that that's another reason why,

1031
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: like I've been able to just keep pushing, is that

1032
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 3: because I don't think about it. I just like I

1033
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 3: just stay focused on what I'm doing and like push

1034
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: to the next thing and keep and just keep going.

1035
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: You know, you got to just do it. You got

1036
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: to live it, you've got to be it. You've got

1037
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: to do it and don't overthink it. And and to

1038
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: your point, I think, I don't know. I just the

1039
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: only thing I could say to you is just recognize

1040
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: what's happening, because I never did.

1041
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:46,479
Speaker 2: I never did.

1042
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 3: There's this thing called the imposter syndrome.

1043
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. Yes, I know it well.

1044
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: I know it well, and I think sometimes we all

1045
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: just feel like that and we're like wait what and

1046
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: then people say these things too. You're like huh yeah, yeah,

1047
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: it's very real.

1048
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 4: It's like very real, and I'm just like wait, like

1049
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 4: you know, like I said, but if you told me

1050
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 4: this is my life, I wouldn't believe you.

1051
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just well, you better believe it, honey,

1052
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: because you are climbing in fucking flats, but.

1053
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 2: You are in your mega jewelry.

1054
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: And styling mega supermodels and actors and musicians and all

1055
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: the things and living all your wildest fucking dreams. So

1056
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you, and I love watching it, and

1057
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm happy I met you, and I'm happy I get

1058
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: to talk to you today and then we have.

1059
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: To have like an offline.

1060
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of those like pitchments.

1061
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 4: I know that like every day, but really, for me.

1062
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: This means so much to like talk to you into

1063
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: like I'm like Rachel's Ott knows who I am.

1064
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm so swear I know who you are and I

1065
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: adore you and I love what you're doing and I'm

1066
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: so happy about it.

1067
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: And I have to be honest with you.

1068
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: For me to just see someone and that loves it

1069
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 1: so much, like truthfully, not to sound like a mom,

1070
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: but like that actually fulfills me the most. And to

1071
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: know that I had any part of that from the beginning,

1072
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: it's just makes me even It makes me feel like

1073
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: so much is worth what I've been through.

1074
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: Who Like that's when street style started, like all of that,

1075
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: you know, like listen, it all happened the same time

1076
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: with this perfect storm of like the internet, you know,

1077
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 3: all the things in time, you know, and you were

1078
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: just at the crux of this like change. Our business

1079
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: just changed, and you were right there in the center

1080
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 3: of it.

1081
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: Well, I love it, and I adore you, and I

1082
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: love your passion. I see it coming out of your

1083
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: eyes and your skin and your smile.

1084
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: But I'm just impressed with you. I love what you do.

1085
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: I love how you dress all the girls, I love

1086
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: your collaborations, and I'm excited to just continue to watch

1087
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: you fly and so do all the things. It's so

1088
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: good I know that you have a friend on the sidelines.

1089
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Danny for being on the

1090
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: pod today. She is just the real deal. She's as

1091
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: genuine as it comes. And I have to tell you,

1092
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: but the first time in my life, I actually felt

1093
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: like I was talking to myself.

1094
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: It was actually.

1095
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: Really a bit surreal, Like the way she was answering questions,

1096
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: I literally felt like it was my answers, Like it

1097
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: was actually a bit surreal for me to have this conversation.

1098
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: But I loved it so much because it's her passion

1099
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: is so genuine, her work ethic is unparalleled, and you know,

1100
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: I think so many of her points are so important

1101
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: because when your clients know how much they mean to

1102
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: you and how much you think about them when you're

1103
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Speaker 1: not on the clock, I think that really is what matters.

1104
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Speaker 2: And she works really, really, really hard.

1105
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: I really loved her takeaways about being kind, giving one

1106
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Speaker 1: hundred and ten percent, and keeping your reputation solid gold.

1107
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Speaker 1: I'll see you next week.