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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rapp Right up podcast, Elliot Wilson, you know what's up? Baby? Good?

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Speaker 1: You know this man? Right here? Man, you told me

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Speaker 1: this album special. Someone else told me it was special

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Speaker 1: to man this Staples. Man, are you feeling feeling great?

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Speaker 1: Ramona Park broke my heart? Man. Yeah, it's been out

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Speaker 1: for I don't know, a couple of months when the album. Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, man, I've seen your interviews. Man,

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Speaker 1: you're a great interview obviously, but when you get your

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Speaker 1: when you get the flowers about your music, and you're

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Speaker 1: good at deflecting it right, like you don't you don't

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Speaker 1: get too caught up in the ways of like, oh

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Speaker 1: this album is amazing, Like you know, you keep that

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Speaker 1: balance to it, like why is that important? Like it

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Speaker 1: seems like you don't. You're not ready like jump in

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Speaker 1: and say, yeah, I got the album of the year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because what did that mean? It means it

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Speaker 1: was good, but it's a lot of good albums. It's

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Speaker 1: not the album that's social media measuring sticks, just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is the album of the here because music last

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Speaker 1: two or three weeks and we all wanted painting on

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Speaker 1: social media. So instead of saying your album is good.

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Speaker 1: I like, we gotta do it in comparison, get a

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Speaker 1: barometer because we got all these lists and all this

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Speaker 1: other ship. So I didn't grow up. I'm twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: You feel me that, don't. I never heard nobody said

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Speaker 1: album of the year when I was growing up. So

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Speaker 1: it's like, that's some new stuff, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's good as good. If it's not, it's not, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's why I look at it.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like it's so much like this run

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Speaker 1: your own right now, Like you feel like you know

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Speaker 1: you did that family. It's like to me, it's life

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Speaker 1: after death, jam right, It's like the self talent work,

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Speaker 1: work you put out and now we're on the park.

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Speaker 1: Like you just seem like you're in this great creative

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Speaker 1: zone like in the last couple of years. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm just Older's the same thing. It's still universal, still

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Speaker 1: saying systems, still saying po you know, still still saying

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Speaker 1: you know, you're getting the emails to the same people.

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Speaker 1: So it's not well, you know, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: ain't no difference, you know, it's the same thing. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just being older, having a different I'll

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Speaker 1: look more resources, No, because we don't. I never opened

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Speaker 1: up no budget or had like no A and R,

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Speaker 1: and nobody ever put me in the session with nobody.

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Speaker 1: Everything I ever did was like people I knew and

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Speaker 1: me sitting there by myself. So I think it's just

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Speaker 1: a matter of time to kind of learn more because

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Speaker 1: you get more comfortable telling your story. Just learning how

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Speaker 1: to make music, you know what I mean. I gotta said,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's relationships that we've done, made on our own,

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Speaker 1: and like that takes longer than you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So I just learned how to record right, learn how

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Speaker 1: to engineer right, and learning what how to pick who

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Speaker 1: makes the project, understand the tone of the project, learning

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Speaker 1: different microphones, like I never picked a microphone until after

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Speaker 1: Ven Staples, Like that's the first time I ever knew

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Speaker 1: what microphone I was using before. It's like over here,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Whatever in their type thinking situation.

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Speaker 1: So just learning more and you double back with Remota

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Speaker 1: Park less than a year after dropping Vince Staples, Like

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Speaker 1: was it your intention to return so fast? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean I had them both. I was working on

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Speaker 1: the boat at the same time, So yeah, Uh, I

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Speaker 1: was working on Ramona. We ran out of the budget.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't give us more money, so I recorded Uh

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Speaker 1: to the True So I recorded Ven Staples with Kenny

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Speaker 1: Bees at his house, and Uh, that's how we kind

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Speaker 1: of got leverage to you know, do whatever with to

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Speaker 1: finish the Ramota project. Oh, I'll just draw that out

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Speaker 1: first to sort of get the leverage. I literally didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't go still no more Star did something with

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Speaker 1: My Honey. It was well received man, But Moona Park though,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's definitely like to me, you'll find

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Speaker 1: it work like I do. You feel like I appreciate it?

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Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, why not? You know,

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to it's supposed to go like that, you

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Speaker 1: as if. Other than that, there's no reason to do it.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with your full disclosure. You know, jay

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Speaker 1: Z is the one that told me he put me

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Speaker 1: on to the album, said it was beautiful, and it's

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Speaker 1: like calling you one of the smartest, uh most creative

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Speaker 1: rappers out there in the game right now coming off

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Speaker 1: of Ramota Park. You said in the tweet that Vince

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Speaker 1: Staples that a lot of people were criticizing you for

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Speaker 1: that project, like it said it didn't sound like you like,

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Speaker 1: and he's trying to make sense of it. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember that I wasn't even trying to make SENSEI I

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Speaker 1: just think people are stupid, Like people are stupid because

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, that's not you like you know me, nigga,

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Speaker 1: no al, shut the funk up. Do you feel like

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Speaker 1: you're unfairly criticized for that project? I don't care. I

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Speaker 1: never care. I don't like you said, I don't care

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Speaker 1: if I'm not if I'm impartial. If people like it,

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Speaker 1: I'm for showing partial if you don't like it. I

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Speaker 1: once you put something on the universe, like you're selling something,

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Speaker 1: it's okay for people to say if they like they

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Speaker 1: don't like it, Like that's not really why I make music,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't care how nobody feel about nothing to

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Speaker 1: as far as it go, like how people feel. But conceptually,

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Speaker 1: like going into the Ramona Park, like how did this

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Speaker 1: album form? Because like when you listen to with track

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Speaker 1: when it sounds like a reflective day at the beach

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Speaker 1: and like everything that you're going through internally in externally, Um,

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Speaker 1: you mean like literally or you know both, because you

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Speaker 1: know people asking different questions. Literally, I just always know

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Speaker 1: I make like the songs not in order, but like

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Speaker 1: just kind of like finding the beats to making make sense.

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Speaker 1: So kind of just finding that, trying to have through lines,

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Speaker 1: no expression through lines, because no, we don't album like

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Speaker 1: it's not really a thing no more. We all obviously

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Like we're real specific about tempos

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Speaker 1: like middle the oldest songs is like leiminate like three

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Speaker 1: That was around like the Magic point. I reported sparks

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Speaker 1: um bang that is some years old. Slide is a

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Speaker 1: couple of years old. Wow. Yeah, So I just kind

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Speaker 1: I think that's how people consider you, right, because like

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Speaker 1: know when like number nine rhythmic radio, like in your mind,

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Speaker 1: we all know that you pay for that, so if

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Speaker 1: matter what the song gears. And you know it getting

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Speaker 1: But the thing about it being number I don't that's

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Speaker 1: when I stand on because if you went around ask like, hey,

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Speaker 1: those things. It's like if somebody put out, you know,

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Speaker 1: put out mercy today, Is it gonna work? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Like it's kind of about being at the right place

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Speaker 1: at the right time. So if you're kind of creating

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Speaker 1: purely Maclamore, shopping through shopping, not getting yeah. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: that song, like I said, that's one of years old,

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Speaker 1: that's only on two different beats. It's just the last

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Speaker 1: I was like, put that song on that beat, and

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Speaker 1: that's how I happened. So how's it? How meaningful is

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Speaker 1: it for someone like Obama to be listening to Magic?

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Speaker 1: It made his summer playlists? Man, I appreciate whoever made

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Speaker 1: that playlist for that was Barack Obama himself. N I

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Speaker 1: the fan might help them out, the daughters might help him.

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Speaker 1: That's what. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Whoever, I don't

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Speaker 1: a long time and got out. Once he got out,

425
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,520
Speaker 1: he got shot up. But he's still driving his trucks.

426
00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,439
Speaker 1: He's still you know, doing all this other stuff. They

427
00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,919
Speaker 1: just call you to talk to you, like they're my

428
00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,320
Speaker 1: real friends. So it's like we don't talk about music.

429
00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,280
Speaker 1: They don't care about the post my stuff. But they

430
00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,320
Speaker 1: don't like you know what I mean. My little homies

431
00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,000
Speaker 1: ain't The young ones ain't listening to me. They're listen

432
00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,040
Speaker 1: to the NBA, Young Boy, you know what I mean,

433
00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,480
Speaker 1: Like yes, CG. Like that's that's the music of the

434
00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,080
Speaker 1: youth right now. So it's like they don't really care.

435
00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm just stay homby, and my older homies really don't

436
00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,240
Speaker 1: care because they see me grow up. So I don't

437
00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,320
Speaker 1: really have that. But I do want the best thing

438
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,560
Speaker 1: you can do for people's give them like open advice,

439
00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,240
Speaker 1: you know, support friendship. We've been friends forever, so they

440
00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,120
Speaker 1: don't need to go past that. But I do want

441
00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,000
Speaker 1: them to be good. Oh yeah, for sure. Who else

442
00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,159
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to he's like you nor you know

443
00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,960
Speaker 1: a rapper, that's that not me that said they're my friend.

444
00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,879
Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, that's want of you, you know what

445
00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,520
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's like I'll be I still I

446
00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,080
Speaker 1: got my same friends when I grow up. It seems

447
00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,879
Speaker 1: like you have a good relationship with DJ Quick. You

448
00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,080
Speaker 1: need the song after him on the album? Yeah, I

449
00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,440
Speaker 1: love DJ Quick And you said he did the scratches

450
00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,720
Speaker 1: on the project as well. Yeah, Like what was his

451
00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,120
Speaker 1: response when he found out that you need to record after?

452
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,000
Speaker 1: He really had no response, like he said, thank you stuff.

453
00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,439
Speaker 1: Crick as Quick as as an interesting person man like

454
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,480
Speaker 1: Quick love music so much and you know so much

455
00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,520
Speaker 1: about music. Him and his son came through. You know,

456
00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,359
Speaker 1: they're just like a wealth of knowledge. So he was

457
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,440
Speaker 1: just he rewired the board while he was there, Like

458
00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,399
Speaker 1: just he just every time you see him, he just

459
00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,040
Speaker 1: got so much to say about music and where it

460
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,760
Speaker 1: comes from and where it can go. So I just

461
00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,119
Speaker 1: appreciate seeing him all the time. I appreciate Quick like

462
00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,840
Speaker 1: he's a good person, Like it doesn't really get his

463
00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,480
Speaker 1: just do as much as he should. So I was

464
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,160
Speaker 1: just happy that I was able to do that. Yeah,

465
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,240
Speaker 1: So he tweeted that you said thank you for the game, Like,

466
00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,320
Speaker 1: are there some things that he told you that stuck

467
00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,960
Speaker 1: with you? Everything? He's like, because you gotta think he

468
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,840
Speaker 1: doesn't got through, hedn't been everywhere to being you know

469
00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 1: what I mean, and through much worse. Like he from away,

470
00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,359
Speaker 1: bigger neighborhood in a way different time, and he was

471
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 1: able to, you know, escape that and still make creative

472
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,000
Speaker 1: music and do his own sound. And he wasn't the biggest,

473
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,200
Speaker 1: but he wasn't the smallest neither. And you can learn

474
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,920
Speaker 1: a lot from somebody who was able to operate the

475
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,480
Speaker 1: way that he was able to operate, you know, like

476
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 1: he was somebody who I think was very is very

477
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 1: important to music out here. Yo, Yo, rapper it up

478
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 1: podcasts quick, yo? Man' sating with it? What's up? Brother?

479
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,879
Speaker 1: What's Oh my god? The Staples is here? Man? I

480
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,440
Speaker 1: just you know, I thought about you were just taking

481
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,919
Speaker 1: saying nice things about you. Man, Hey, man, that's what up?

482
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,879
Speaker 1: What's up? Roy feeling? Man? I'm filling with my hands,

483
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,119
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'll talk about the hockey and

484
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 1: I let you a little bit earlier, but I didn't

485
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 1: hear uh remixing all this old school music. Man with

486
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,360
Speaker 1: this old school equipment, being an old man in the studio,

487
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 1: so doing old doing old ship. Said you'd be fixing

488
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 1: boys and ship. But I remember that he was like,

489
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,159
Speaker 1: he ain't doing this album unless you came to at

490
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 1: the end. Man, Hey, that's a big flex bro. Like, hey, man,

491
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, young hop me look at me like that, bro,

492
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 1: because VS you're a big guy. Man. I'm gonna tell you,

493
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 1: I got a little key star struck when I've seen

494
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 1: that little accurate Integral commercial because it took me back

495
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 1: to accurate Integrat. Was hot to see you levitating. I'm like, man,

496
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: they better get that. They better get him that. I

497
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Definitely, thank you. Who fucking better bro thinking better?

498
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 1: So I tell him, man, you got the album of

499
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,719
Speaker 1: the year up in the conversation. Man, you don't want

500
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 1: to take these flowers. Mat I try to tell him, Hey, bro,

501
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 1: your album as sweetest bear me Bro. I was like this.

502
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 1: I was like, okay. When I heard it in the studio,

503
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 1: I was like just pleasantly surprised, like somebody that's reaching

504
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 1: out more than just trying to be a trap king

505
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 1: and just do the same trap trap trap ship on

506
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,159
Speaker 1: the Trap and Trap you just you just expanded, bro,

507
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 1: like you you wanted the premier artists of of this decade,

508
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: brock Shore. So you know, take that from a niker

509
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: that I've been on. I had an unbroken record on

510
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 1: the billboard charts with Tupac and all the ship I

511
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: was doing with him, Like I was on this ship

512
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: for like a hundred weeks. I was like, oh my god,

513
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 1: nobody prospect. When Tupac when all eyes, when he fell

514
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 1: off the charge, it was like it was over. But you,

515
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: my man, you got this new sound all wrapped up

516
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: in the boat and take it. Thank you. I appreciate it,

517
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 1: bro for real? Alright quick, alright, quick, thank you legend

518
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 1: for checking in. Man. Sorry, I'm like, man, I'm smoking

519
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: weeds and showing on his motherfucking mushrooms. I've been to

520
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 1: the baby Yeah, DJ Quick in the motherfucking house, was

521
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: in the motherfucker halse for real? Yeah quick, You're good dude, absolutely,

522
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: Like he's talking about creatively man. Like one of the

523
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 1: records that stood out to me when Sparks Fly, Like

524
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: that's about a gun, Like, how did you come up

525
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 1: with that? Were you listening to nas I gave you

526
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 1: power something I hadn't. I never heard that song until

527
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: uh really when I but I never heard that song

528
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: until I didn't really listen to music growing up. I

529
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 1: still remember this some music like to be honest now,

530
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: it was just, you know, this was natural, like I thought,

531
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: I don't really be thinking about songs like that. I

532
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: don't know how to explain it. Like if I got

533
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: an idea, I got an idea. If I don't, I

534
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: don't like I'm not I don't sit down there like, oh,

535
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 1: this would be interesting because you know I never wrapped that.

536
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: I know these mcs had wrapped about this metaphor that

537
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: the girl is a gun like you No, I mean, bro,

538
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 1: I didn't you gotta think about music when I was

539
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 1: growing up, like we had no I like CDs, you

540
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean? iPod cool, like you got a

541
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: computer that you can plug an iPod and you got

542
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: internet like our internet was the thirty dollars the thirty

543
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: day three things from the front of the State of

544
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: Brothers for a O L dollar. We wasn't download enough

545
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 1: music like how the iPod I had confiscated at school

546
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 1: and then I gotta listen to the music you know

547
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: what I mean, So I wouldn't really it wasn't really

548
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: my thing. My uh my sister, my sister, baby daddy

549
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: at the Gang of Cities, I stole from him, but

550
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: he had like spice, well he didn't care and not

551
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: like that, but he had like spice one like a

552
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: bunch of like bace ship and like down here ship

553
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: like because he's from content. But I never heard a

554
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff like my first time here, and

555
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: a lot of music was because Corey was like, you

556
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: should listen to you, just listen now, But I didn't.

557
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: I don't really have the access to be able to

558
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: like my mom don't got fifteen dollars for you to

559
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: go buy a CD, you know what I'm saying. So

560
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: that I I was I had that kind of upbringer, so

561
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: I didn't get the privilege of kind of being into

562
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: things like that like music videos all right. We didn't

563
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: have cable and said I was like in the team grade,

564
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 1: so like, you know, I just didn't have to access

565
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: to do that kind of stuff. But um, idea, hear

566
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,479
Speaker 1: the song after I put it out, like and I

567
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: was like, I was just grateful to be you know,

568
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: putting that same category or you know, have something similar

569
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: to something that now as well. Yeah, you mentioned Corey

570
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: a lot, like what wakes in your perfect partner manager?

571
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: Like can you speaking believe about your journey like connecting

572
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: in business? I mean I don't know, to be honest,

573
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: it's I don't even look at it. You don't even

574
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't care about business, bro, Like I don't want

575
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: to be broke. I ain't stupid. I don't spend no money.

576
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm not that kind of person. But I don't care

577
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: about get into a certain level. I don't got no goals.

578
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: I'll just make songs. Bro. That's crazy to hear you

579
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: say that, because it feels like corporate America loves Vince Staples.

580
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: You've done business with Sprite, Calvin Klein, the NBA, ACRA.

581
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: Like why you think they're so attracted to you? I

582
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: mean being able to being able to speak, you know,

583
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: having ideas. Uh, yeah, that's all. I wouldn't think. I

584
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: could really think about we got that Spike deal because

585
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: somebody else I ain't want it in respond to the

586
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: emails and time, and then we got it. Like that

587
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: was lucky, and it was a really big artist that

588
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: was supposed to go to But it's like as you

589
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: got lucky accurate, um, kind of a snowball effect. Once

590
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: you get one, other things start coming. But just having ideas,

591
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: um converse was a big one. I got opportunity from

592
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: Tim and lindsay. Um. Yeah. I think it's just you know,

593
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: being able to speak, having ideas, being able to function

594
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: in that environment because you gotta be on zones and

595
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: you gotta be on time. You gotta have opinions and ideas,

596
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: and you gotta, you know, make sure that you understand

597
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: the processes. And I think that's something that I'm able

598
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: to do, so that helps me more. I feel like

599
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: they get so professional with that, like you take it

600
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: seriously like you're not. Once you get these out, you're

601
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: not messing around you. I take I take everything serious. Yeah,

602
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: I'll take everything serious because even like on the record

603
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: like paper cuts to me that sound, I was like,

604
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: you're very business minded, like you have that actimen and

605
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: you're not at all. You're not at all. I don't

606
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: care about none of that, bro, I'm not money for

607
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: I live in a regular townhouse, you feel me. I

608
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: gotta I dry that accurate every day and I dry

609
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: that tesla like I don't care about stuff like that.

610
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I'm pretty because like I'm on

611
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: the blues. You said your money makes you dumb, right,

612
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: So why are you so apathetic to like money and

613
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: the trappings of I just never had it and making

614
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: more money than help me with nothing to changing my

615
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: perspective on how I view things in life, change everything,

616
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: Like it ain't no amount that you can put on

617
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: somebody being a better person, like learning more about life.

618
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: So money gives you who she appreciate, gives your access

619
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: and space to not be stressed, and then you're able

620
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: to think, to have that space to process, will see

621
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: your mind and you know, ask yourself how you feel?

622
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: What do you want to do? And people like, oh man,

623
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: what do you like to do? And I ain't never

624
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: done nothing but like a couple of things in my life,

625
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I don't

626
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: nobody like to do that. It's just that's what we do.

627
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: But um, some people like to do it. But that's

628
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: what you do it like it is what it is.

629
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: But I never had no hobby, Like hobbies, hobbies cost money,

630
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And if you grow up

631
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: without no money, like what you you know what I mean.

632
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: My mama ain't taking me to like the theme park

633
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: in the park. Yeah, you know what I mean, And

634
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: that's my momayn't take me there. Mom. We played basketball

635
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: a Cherry park. We walked from on the park because

636
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: one of my friends, I don't even know the hood

637
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: was there when I first started going over there. But

638
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I mean, that's how it that's

639
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 1: how it happened. And you realize where you live at

640
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: when you get older, when you kill on all that

641
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: stuff manages you just where you at because of yo surroundings.

642
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: Like I grew up taking the bus, Like that's how

643
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: I learned how to speak to people taking the bus

644
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: and get kicked out of schools and have to go

645
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: to school with long bees diverse, so I don't go

646
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: school white people, Asian people going to school with small

647
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to school medics going to school to black people.

648
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: I've had to learn how to speak to different people

649
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: but not offend nobody, you know what I mean. It's

650
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: interesting like your worldview because even like on The Blues,

651
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 1: you have a literally talk about success and I was wondering,

652
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: do you think success really does bring guilt and stress. Yeah,

653
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. Yeah, for you, it does.

654
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't care about success, like that's what I mean.

655
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: Of course I do think it's true, But like what

656
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: is success? Like you know, what is success? I guess

657
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: is relative depending on who you know what I'm saying.

658
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: So it's like, but success in the worldview to me

659
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: is like overachieving, Like to be successful, you have to overachieve.

660
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if the world typically looks at

661
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: the person who has a good job it's successful. I

662
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: don't know if we're looking at the mailman, the trash man,

663
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: instruction workers, plumbers, you know, plumber can make a hundred

664
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, you know, and upwards. But I

665
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: don't know if we necessarily look at them as successful,

666
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: like from our worldview, like the scope of how we

667
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: view the world. So that's kind of what I'm saying about.

668
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: We don't know. You can kind of pick your own ship,

669
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: It's basically what I'm saying. So it's like, why would

670
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: I like, oh man, you don't want this award of

671
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: that award of this acknowledgement, Like no, because it don't

672
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: affect my day to day life like my mama had

673
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: to make me hang my plaques up in the house.

674
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: Really them ships was on the ground next to were

675
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: the dog sleep, So what's validation? And got them as gifts?

676
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: I gotta buy the ship, you know what I mean?

677
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: What does validation look like to Vince Staples? Then they

678
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: don't know you gotta buy plaques like this is crazy.

679
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: You can get You can get anything on the black.

680
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: You gotta everywarre but um, but validation. I don't know, man,

681
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: It's you know, being able to have um, you know,

682
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: a peace of mind on who you are and on

683
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: kind of where you want to go next. It's all

684
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: personal stuff, man, It's for anybody, like anybody can pick

685
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: that own. You can pick what you want, what you

686
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: don't want, what you like, what you don't like. And

687
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: for me, I think, you know, just having uh, being comfortable,

688
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, um, peace, being able to make decisions. You know.

689
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a little stuff bro. I get to go

690
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: to grocery store and I don't gotta be like, oh

691
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: how much you know what I mean. I ain't know

692
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: how to drive until I was in my twenties. I

693
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: don't have a bank accountil I was twenties, Like I

694
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: used core you start to bring me five dollars ago

695
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: get food and I was nineteen years old. You know

696
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: what I mean to see the daughter go back to

697
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: the hood obvious, like you know what I'm saying, Like

698
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a different I have a different upbringing

699
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: and I guess a lot of people that you would

700
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: put me in the box with, So I don't have

701
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: that kind of value system. To be honest, I've never

702
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: I've never seen in the war show. I've seen a

703
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: B T Wars at aunt when I was a little kid.

704
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: You see me J Blodge and ship like that. But

705
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: those aren't the wars that people care about. Already got

706
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: one of them and I'm grateful for it. So what

707
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: else do the funk I need? Grammy would be nice

708
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: because I think it would elevate your profile and put

709
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: you in different places and spaces. What are those places? Though?

710
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: You know, um in Middle America were already there. We

711
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: got accurate commercial you give what I'm saying, That's all

712
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If you really want to say that, like

713
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: we just we got what do we need? We plant?

714
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: Plant your flag more in that space? I guess like

715
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: household names, you know, we say the Drakes, we say

716
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: the jay Z's we could say you've ben stables. I think,

717
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: and then what and then what you can continue to

718
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: get more? Get more out of it? Marta, what of success?

719
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: More out of looks? So when you speak with Cord,

720
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: you guys have these kind of conversations. Seat to see

721
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: we ever spoke about? Yeah? Have I ever told you

722
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: I wanted anything? I would like to see you with

723
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: the Grammy though I'm not thinking anything that's some one

724
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: gives me because of my music. I appreciate it. But

725
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is if I go back to my

726
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: neighborhood and say, hey, look I gotta grammy, mm, They're

727
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: not gonna care if I'm like, oh look, I remember

728
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: when I first got my car, like just a car,

729
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,239
Speaker 1: and my homies was happy for me. You know how

730
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: to park it? I saw the guy you know the

731
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: parking break we we we were on Plymouth in the

732
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: middle of the hood, the middle of it be somebody

733
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: who died down the street and my hommies that teach

734
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: me how to parallel park because I got a car

735
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: and I was a dude that walked down the street

736
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: and had a car. Cash She's going to park my

737
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: car and then and tea scrap watching the street right

738
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: before he died. If I show up with a grammy,

739
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, that's what's up. They're not gonna

740
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: care because what did that mean? Like, you know what

741
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean. I don't mean saying that the grammy doesn't

742
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: mean anything in the grand scheme I'm talking about. When

743
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: I go home, that don't mean nothing where I come

744
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: from And we all said, we come from these places,

745
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: but we don't want the values that come from these places.

746
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We want we want to

747
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: go be with the with them people, validation from other

748
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: from them people, you know what I mean. And that's

749
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: all I'm saying, Like how long we've been talking about

750
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: Nick is not going to the b too? Or what

751
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: is we're talking about? You get what I'm saying, Like

752
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: we can all pretend that that's not the thing, but

753
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna pretending. I don't. I ain't worry about

754
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: what nobody got to say about that, because when I

755
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: go home, where I stay, well, I'm always at that.

756
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: They're just happy that I'm doing okay because of what

757
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: I was doing before. And if that's not enough I

758
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell nobody. You must not be

759
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 1: okay with yourself? Is that what? That's hard to make

760
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: rapper friends because you've built this sort of very unique

761
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna coming along me, coming on, come along,

762
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: hang out, don't You're not gonna ever see me in

763
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: the saws like I do. Got rapper friends like j

764
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: I did. That's my homie, alcam Is. I'll talk to

765
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: him a lot. Of course, we know mad with Tyler Tyler.

766
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: We and Tyler talk a lot. I got a rapper

767
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: homies that ain't nobody checking foul that they don't. They

768
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: might not fit what people see, like do like all Black.

769
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: I love him and his kids, like a lot of

770
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: homies that make music. But Ja through Fire that's my homie,

771
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: Like Loving the Death. I know a lot of people.

772
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to figure I'm not leaving nobody.

773
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: But as far as people I check on me that

774
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: I talked today, Jack Harlow, I know him really, I'm

775
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: real probably, but we should do shows together. He was drinking.

776
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: We did show his eighteen birthday, you know, in Louisville.

777
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, but yeah, I got homies. But it's like

778
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: just the I lived my life different thing. My lifestyle

779
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: is not conducive to hanging out with niggas that rap

780
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: if it me, So what do you mean? What do

781
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: you mean by that? Like your life, you ever see

782
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: me anywhere? I mean, you're famous, so I guess, but

783
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: you'd be seeing famous niggas. But I've never been the

784
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: war shows, brunches, mixtures always have to show. No, But

785
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: that's where I'm not. I'm not shipping on nobody. I'm

786
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: saying that's kind of I don't do those things, So

787
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm not running in the niggas, you know what I mean. So,

788
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: like that's all that and it's nothing, not a slight

789
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: to anybody. I'm just saying literally, like Bodi James, that's

790
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: my homie, like girl, like these is people I kind

791
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: of talk to like and I respect for everybody and

792
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: I know everybody, but just like I just as far

793
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: as like friendship, Yeah, I mean, like really my boy,

794
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: like I talked him a lot. Ye yeah, like Jack,

795
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: a lot of them do is I talked to a lot.

796
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: So and your family moved back through the pandemic, you guys, Yeah,

797
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: my family stay with me. Yeah, So I got I

798
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: got enough friends. I got a whole hood of honeys,

799
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: like the hood like it's a lot of them, Bro,

800
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 1: it's not. I would be like I got baby showers

801
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: ago to like I gotta go down honies, I gotta

802
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: go to the little hume baby showers, Like come on

803
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: thirty bro, Like I'm because they gave you. That was

804
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: a good volbum moment with Speedy when he's like, nobody

805
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: know what come in my house? That people come? But

806
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: he was trying to ask me, was was violence happening

807
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: on the premises of my house? And I'm not stupid

808
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: enough for that. So that's the answer, you guys, if

809
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: we want to really be real, But everybody whacked like

810
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: he didn't Sy, You ain't never looked at your security

811
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: camera see some crazy ship. We're even seen waiting, but

812
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: we act like that type of ship don't happen. But

813
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: I can't say that because I look crazy. So I'll

814
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: just be playing with niggas. What do you think they

815
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: would ask Martha Stodop she ever seen some crazy in

816
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: the security camera? Well she is a felon. That's my point.

817
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm coming to her, like, come on, bro, but your

818
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: views of ray J have not changed. He doing he's

819
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: doing this thing. Will ray J be redeemed and whatever

820
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: controversy with the Kadashians, will he get his way? I

821
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: don't even know what you're talking about, and I'm dead serious.

822
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Did some priests taste the other day?

823
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: He's out for he's out for redemption. I do love

824
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: the fact that you gave ray J a little bit

825
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: of flowers. We interpolated one wish on the album, soh yeah,

826
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: that's my I love that song. I love the album man,

827
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: it's good. Also love the videos as well. Man, um,

828
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: I know Road Street is the first director directorial debut

829
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: for INCA hand no money, so they ain't give us

830
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: no money, so we just did that. Hey when I

831
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: don't give us no money, so we just did that. Yeah,

832
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: I ain't even have a freedom. But that's probably last

833
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: music that you ever see. But really now we got

834
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: to see the magic continuation because it was to be continued.

835
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: I know what happened was the budget was sucked up.

836
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: The house was too small, so we had to edit

837
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: it around and make it look like that. Really, are

838
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: you serious? Look right there? He right, none, None of

839
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: this is making We're just saying I was just nice,

840
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: not it's nice. The truth we didn't have them. We

841
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: didn't have the money for it. That you think that

842
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: you think that give me that about the Grammy think

843
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: I get the budget to make a music video that's

844
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: gonna get us Grammy? No, manute, like, let's really talk

845
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: about how you get those things. Don't see We're not

846
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: gonna see that. We don't know how that happened. When

847
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: you get what you pay for, they call it campaign

848
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, campaigns cause money or money. Yes, some bro like,

849
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: let's not do that. They do like we know. That's

850
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: why we contend we ain't stupid, like we know what

851
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: the is going on, because like you directed Sparks Fly too.

852
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: That was that looked like it was no, that was that?

853
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: That was MoMA House. Uh my mouse the platform that

854
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: kind of allows you to have live shows. So we

855
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: did like a live show, live stream show type situation.

856
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: We was able to cut that and we carved that

857
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: out of the deal so we could put that on YouTube.

858
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: So that was a free video that just getting monetized.

859
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: Resourceful man, I love that. Look, man, you gotta shove

860
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: with ships sometimes, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and

861
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: you turned the ship into fertilizer man like then Staple Show. Yeah, man,

862
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: we finally Staple Show. Now. I was just we have

863
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: been doing just COVID. We can get on production office

864
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: during COVID. But yeah, we we we we did with

865
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: that was I kind of scored away ago, but you know,

866
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: I'm happy they still picked it up after, you know

867
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: everything that A lot of companies also a lot during COVID,

868
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: So the fact that we was able to kind of

869
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: still be on that docket is cool. So we're in

870
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: the writing room for right now, like literally right now

871
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: actually down the street. I had to learn how to

872
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: write scripts and like format and stuff like that. So

873
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: just working with a lot of good people, like I

874
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: can't say their names contractually, but it's a lot of

875
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: smart people in that room. That's really helpful. So I'm

876
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: just happy to be able to do that. I was

877
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: gonna say, how the Kenya Burrowers get involved? Uh, He's

878
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: just the only one that I wanted to do it,

879
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: the only one I was gonna do what I say.

880
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because I've seen people like, oh man,

881
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: why are you working with black Age? The black dude?

882
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't like him. He but don't know, abody give

883
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: a funk about None of these white boys that's producing

884
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: all this ship. Well't ever know their names, but as

885
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: soon as it's nigger, they're mad. As I just think

886
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 1: that's so interesting. But whatever they can. But yeah, shout

887
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: out king Uh yeah man, I mean I'm just grateful

888
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: the opportunity, you know, to be able to try something

889
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: new and different from the because use those vignesam with

890
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: calmatic like yeah, we was trying to were trying to,

891
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: you know, for that situation. You know, we was trying

892
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: to set up and stabish us in and nobody was

893
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: trying to do it. So we just shot that so

894
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: we didn't have that bag no more. Yeah, you said

895
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: you love this like you you're getting into this like

896
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: ten am six pm like a job, almost going to

897
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: the writing room and really chopping. Yeah, man, every day

898
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: on every day? What about writing the scripts? Like are

899
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: you doing screenplays yourself? Or here is a team now?

900
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: We got a team before, we have a team now

901
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: just me and one another person. Yeah okay, and you

902
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: also off the two man accomplished author the Limbo Beach

903
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: graphic novel series. Yeah, man, I just be doing ship.

904
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: You know what I mean like that was Z two

905
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: Z two to a lot of stuff, a lot of

906
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: artists though, um any universal system Um no, that's one

907
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: of the bones that throw us. So we was like

908
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: I always been like trying to put the artists with

909
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: the company whatever, and they is we just made something scratch. Really,

910
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: they just make it's based off the the music and

911
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: they just build your liking as well. I was like,

912
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: that's kind of we might as well to do something

913
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: if you don't see how if I can do it.

914
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: So it was a cool experience. We're going back to

915
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: this state. But so like what what what should people

916
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: look out for? Like what what do they look at it?

917
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: Like it's like Kirby enthusiasm type of thing, like, oh no,

918
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: it's just new. It's not it's not it's not kind

919
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: of done yet. I don't I don't have That's why

920
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: it's like a thing. That's why it's taking a long time,

921
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: is just trying to make something new. We don't have

922
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: a skeleton, we don't have like a something like to follow,

923
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: so you know, we'll see it should be interesting though, yeah,

924
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's looking good so far. So if

925
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: this takes off, though, we're gonna it's gonna steal you

926
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: away from the music. You think long term? Funny? How long?

927
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: How long is that's a long term? I think as

928
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: long as you can, as long as you can rap

929
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: at a high level. But want you if you're wrapping

930
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: at a high level and creating, you continue to make

931
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: more Ramona Park albums. Hell yeah, wrapping it should be

932
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more cost effective these days, you know,

933
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: to make an album, but it's not as much as

934
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: it used to be. You know, I ain't got a

935
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: back in right what do you read? This is never

936
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: coming out like I'm just I'm just letting you know

937
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: I haven't got it back against teams everything we pay

938
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: for you know, we pay for the fund video right

939
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: me and we split it and we got paid back

940
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: years later. Wow, it's d I y for real. But

941
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: I think if you could, if you can rap, as

942
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: long as you have the ability, everybody they can't fance.

943
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: A lot of people fall off, like the abilities just

944
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: aren't what they used to be. I don't think it's that.

945
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: I think it's what you want from certain people. You

946
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, what are you talking about?

947
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: Who are you talking about? Not like give me like

948
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 1: an archetype. You know what I'm saying, Like if say

949
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: you got somebody like Ja Rule, Um, his skills might

950
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: not a decrease, but him being able to make that

951
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: kind of hit in which we put with his name

952
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: is going to be harder because time changed. But I

953
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: don't know if him literally rapping there like a lot

954
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: of rappers perspective, know, I mean, so it just gets

955
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: harder over time. Yeah, I think cool he doing ll

956
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: cool J ship probably still, but it's like, I don't

957
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: know if they want to hear that. If he came

958
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: out with radio today and like all that's crazy, Like

959
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: we can't just hear him it's end do I do

960
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: think you have to with the times. But also if

961
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: LLL Cool they drop radio right now, right now, like

962
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: not that that style of rap. But I think there

963
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: are people that can make comebacks after their peak. I

964
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: think every sermon did it back in the day with music,

965
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: you know what. But That's what I'm saying, like it's

966
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: it's really hard to do you Jaz open up, open

967
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: it up a lot, just being able to be mature,

968
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: like they remember they was calling things old like to

969
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: make fun of us, you know, what I mean. So

970
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: like jay Z kind of changed a lot, so I

971
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: think it's very very possible. But I think we have

972
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: to just you know, if we're making music to make music,

973
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: and let's just make music. But when we're throwing all

974
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: this other stuff in it, that's when I'm like, no,

975
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm cool. But do you seem like like you you

976
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: kind of you kind of had your ambition before whatever

977
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: music sets looks like. But it seems like with something

978
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: like the Vince Staple Show, I feel like you're kind

979
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: of more more all in right, like you would would

980
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 1: like that to be. I'm all in on everything, bro. Yeah,

981
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: It's like it's either it's or go back home like

982
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: that that's real. I don't I can't. I just say

983
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: my family with me, right, which means if this ain't work,

984
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: worlds like and go. So I always been all in,

985
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I had I graduate

986
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: from high school. Someone's going to Tim Gray for me.

987
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: I never had a job. To me, I ain't got no,

988
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: ain't nobody in my family have no careers literally, like

989
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: my sister nurse and that ship is you know that

990
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: be when you're the one you don't you know what

991
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so we just here. So if I was

992
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: always all in, people don't know this ship you gotta

993
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: do to get at least right here with no back

994
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: and no support, no friends, no entourage, no name that

995
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: put in front of you. You know, everybody got their

996
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: little cruel niggas. Iin't never had none of those days.

997
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: So I had to go. I had to go, and

998
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: I had to be hype man and phocus closed for

999
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: two years. Make sure you've got in the sprinter on time,

1000
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: and not do no songs but finding out a week

1001
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: part then said, who's two years finding out the per

1002
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: dam per week? Not much of one bare room is

1003
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: in in Long Beach, nine fifty in the hood. You

1004
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Even forward that after that,

1005
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: we have enough for mac Miller just to be there,

1006
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: um sharing a room with the security guard performing when

1007
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: the doors up in fifteen minutes. Then Q let me

1008
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: on this tour. I didn't know what I was doing.

1009
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: Gave me a decent slot, going a far as they

1010
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 1: were shot after audio pushed music not translating. I didn't

1011
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: know how to make it. Never met anybody who would

1012
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: tell be anything. He told me your songs are too slow,

1013
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: first person to ever try to help me. Besides, like,

1014
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: that's not my friend. Your friend is gonna support. You

1015
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: can say your friends the first person ever give me

1016
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: some advice that's gonna work. After that, we opened up

1017
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: with joy badass. Then we want to festive run playing

1018
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: the two pm when the door is opened a twelve

1019
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: Who can do that for teen years? If they're not

1020
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: all in? Mm hmmm. You know what I'm saying. My

1021
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: whole time, he paying for everything. You know what I'm saying.

1022
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: I gotta deal, had to pay him back because it

1023
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: was broke again. You gotta be all here that they're laughing.

1024
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm not lyning off, so you gotta be all in,

1025
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it's it was it

1026
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: was more at stake for me. This wasn't something that

1027
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: you always you always go back to thinking the family

1028
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: and how much. That's the only reason I've ever done this.

1029
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: You gotta do another reason I don't. That's why I

1030
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: don't care about the other stuff. That's why I'm already happy.

1031
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm I wanted something small,

1032
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: so everything else is just like extra At this point,

1033
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: exactly everything goes is extraly at this point. Once so

1034
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: once you know, my mama had a car, she eat

1035
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: and didn't have to go wake up and for my mama,

1036
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: sis didn't have to work up at wake up at

1037
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: two oclock and morning to go working selway, my mom

1038
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: might have to wake up at five o'clock and morning

1039
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: to go work in a call center for for Toyota

1040
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: on one of them ships on working for a tip agency.

1041
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: So you don't get in shelf. And you know what

1042
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Once that wasn't a thing no more, What

1043
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: do I have to complain about. I don't got a trophy.

1044
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: I don't got I'm not on the list. That's why

1045
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: anything I get like that, I'm super appreciative of it

1046
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: because I ain't even asking for it, you know what

1047
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: I mean. Like you ain't never heard me say that

1048
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: my ship was the best of this or that if

1049
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: I ever do something like that, I'm playing like I'm

1050
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: just grateful to be able to have opportunities to say

1051
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: something for a living, you know what I mean? You

1052
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Speaker 1: get them try things for a living, and that's good

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Speaker 1: enough for me. So with with the Stable show, for example,

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Speaker 1: like what's the goal there is that just to make

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00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: content that you know it's going to resonate with people.

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Speaker 1: I got sick of making music videos for nothing and

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Speaker 1: what was started? Yeah, what do we want to do?

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Speaker 1: Who do you want to direct it? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I got sick of doing after nothing m and then

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Speaker 1: I did dope and I was like, I can do this.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That's why dope the film, you know? Oh yeah, exactly, exactly,

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Speaker 1: thank you? Yeah I did. I did hear there's nothing,

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Speaker 1: I said, any security cams, there's nothing. Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I did Dope the film and I was like, I

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Speaker 1: can do it. It seemed easy. Not easy, but it

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Speaker 1: seems attainable. I'm saying, yeah, as far as the music is.

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Speaker 1: One last point, I have a remote remote the park,

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Speaker 1: like the dialogue and the skits to really tie into

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Speaker 1: the album. Like why was that so important to incorporate? Because,

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Speaker 1: like I said earlier, like people like these people ain't real,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Um? First lady, that's a

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's a little c J from each coach.

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Speaker 1: She died when she was a teenager. Second lady, that's uh,

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Speaker 1: that's Roundbot frottle, just park she died. Um, she died

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Speaker 1: and then her sister got a clear for us. Um.

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Speaker 1: We had a big ward from from from Mata Video.

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Speaker 1: I think you from Lopez and he me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: He was on slide a Monster Cody he passed, you know,

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Speaker 1: a spirit of Monster Cody. And it's like these people

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Speaker 1: you don't hear that we had. We had a lady

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Speaker 1: from who I forgot her name, but she was now

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Speaker 1: she's from Legends at the end of UM. I forgot

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Speaker 1: what song it was, but we had her on their

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Speaker 1: U UM. I think it's player was um. Yeah, just

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Speaker 1: having people that stories matter to me because these just

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Speaker 1: people I know who they is because of what they

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Speaker 1: did out here, and you know, they kind of slid

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Speaker 1: and find their names before they passed. And a couple

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Speaker 1: of still with us, but I think actually one of

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Speaker 1: us it was Yeah, man, I think those people matter

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Speaker 1: more than the rappers, more than the apps to where

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Speaker 1: I come from, matter more than rappers and athletes and

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Speaker 1: all these other people like these just people that die

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Speaker 1: in the streets for the same thing that my friends is.

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Speaker 1: So it's not a new story, and that was the

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Speaker 1: point of using it is because they're saying the things

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Speaker 1: that's being said in these songs, and they were saying

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Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies, it's still sounding real. Bid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: lived by the gun, died by the sining right exactly exactly,

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Speaker 1: there we go, but not even that, just live here.

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Speaker 1: You don't even need a gun. Be outside of the

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Speaker 1: wrong time. Yeah, I've seen that time and time again. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Vince Man. Respect bro, thank you appreciate gonna

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Speaker 1: say you got one of the best albums in the year.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want you to think I don't appreciate.

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate. It's just that My thing is if

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Speaker 1: you say that and a hundred people say I don't that,

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Speaker 1: don't negate what you said. And that's just the way

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Speaker 1: that I look at it. You feel me like everybody

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Speaker 1: voice matter, but that we don't. We spend too much

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Speaker 1: time not having to say nothing. So anytime somebody says something,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it because they said it, not because we're

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Speaker 1: coming from a PUTI told me that walking down the street.

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Speaker 1: It will mean just as much you're telling me that

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. That's That's basically what I'm saying. I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited about the Vince Table shows. Good to see

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Speaker 1: you get. That should be cool, man, I'm gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 1: If you need some cameos, you know, I got you

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Speaker 1: got sad ready man. Yeah rap rate on podcasts, Yeah

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