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Speaker 1: and he will not be sentenced until August by a

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Speaker 1: The dean was Mariland Flynn. In return, Flynn ranged for

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Speaker 1: Lucia Pierron. He's a criminal law specialist in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Lou How are you good to be with you? Guys?

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Speaker 1: If you don't know who's going to fall next today,

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Speaker 1: I AM sixty. An exciting day, Mark Ridley Thomas going

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Speaker 1: world of comedy. So this this other writer, uh, Georgie Katchev?

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Speaker 1: Where is he right now? He's probably a Russian I

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't stand near any hotel windows. See. The journal

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Speaker 1: Industrial production growth now comes from factories turning out missiles,

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Speaker 1: So I guess he probably was doing an investigation into

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Speaker 1: and then how much money was being spent by the government.

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Speaker 1: So their cover is he's spying on us, when really

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Speaker 1: Is he's spying and getting secret state secrets. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: So Putin is made to look like a fool and

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Speaker 1: that's not going to fly. Yeah. The timing of this

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Speaker 1: that's it. Get him. He's thirty one years old. He

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Speaker 1: in truth, there was a subtext to her scolding. They're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: so now you get you get kidnapped, and you're in

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Speaker 1: So they're not going to make a deal the way

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Speaker 1: they did for the basketball player. She wouldn't say, trade

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Speaker 1: another arms dealer for mister gurd Yeah. Well that's that's

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Speaker 1: what Russia does. And they still have that former US

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Speaker 1: Marine Paul Wheeland. He's still being held there too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, we got more coming up. Johnny Ken caf

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Speaker 1: A sixty. We have another verdict, we do. There is

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Speaker 1: more breaking news from the legal world. Gwyneth Paltrow wins

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Speaker 1: in her case against doctor Terry Sanderson. This was the

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Speaker 1: collision at the Deer Valley's ski resort in Utah in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. He sued her, claiming he got a concussion,

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Speaker 1: broken ribs, brain damage. He said she slammed into him.

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Speaker 1: It was a hit and run. He initially wanted over

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Speaker 1: three million, but a judge said, then he can only

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Speaker 1: get three hundred thousand. Anyway, the jury took about two

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Speaker 1: She had fact They believed that he he caused the accidents. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she filed a countersuit for one dollar so and attorney's fees.

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Speaker 1: So he's got to pay all her attorney's fees. Which, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't say that in this story. That is true. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's so it's going to cost him six figures at least.

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Speaker 1: That was a bad beat when you when you sue

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Speaker 1: you hurt her. You did it. You started this. As

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Speaker 1: was comparing Gwyneth to Jeffrey Epstein. The judge told the

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Speaker 1: jury just ignore that. Yeah, I was trying to say

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Speaker 1: celebs get away with stuff. I wouldn't say Epstein was

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Speaker 1: a celebrity, and he did. Besides, sexually using young girls

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Speaker 1: ski slope. I wasn't paying attention to this because Gwyneth

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Speaker 1: Paltrow's involved. U. When I heard there were no witnesses

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Speaker 1: an unanimous verdict unless you get twelve people who can't

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Speaker 1: stand Gwyneth Paltrow. And but like I said, OJ was right.

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Speaker 1: People run into each other on ski slopes. What are

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Speaker 1: you gonna do? Yeah, and getting getting celebrities legally blamed

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Speaker 1: for anything. Get it. Trump has put out a statement

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Speaker 1: this afternoon. A statement by Donald Trump, forty fifth President

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Speaker 1: of the United States of America. This is political persecution

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Speaker 1: and election interference at the highest level in history. I

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Speaker 1: like this from the time I came down the Golden

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Speaker 1: escalator at Trump Tower. Remember back in twenty fifteen when

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Speaker 1: he announced he was running, and he spells witch hunt

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Speaker 1: with capitals with W and H, witch hunt to destroy

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Speaker 1: the Make America Great Again movement. You remember it just

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Speaker 1: like I do. Russia, Russia, Russia, the Muler hoax, Ukraine Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: Ukraine impeachment hoax, one impeachment hoax, to the illegal and

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Speaker 1: underconstitutional Marilago raid and now this, so he thinks this

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Speaker 1: will backfire on Biden. The Manhattan DA was hadn't picked

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Speaker 1: and funded by George Soros. Is it dis christ in

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Speaker 1: Sacramento news this is worth mentioning for just a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes to end the show. Do you remember some

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Speaker 1: years ago, it was twenty sixteen, they passed a bill

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Speaker 1: in Sacramento that you could not travel to states that

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Speaker 1: well they're admitting that. So they were banning government funded

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Speaker 1: travel to those states. And of course we were laughing

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Speaker 1: use state money to go there. It was like a

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Speaker 1: personal trip. Yeah. Well, I manage for everybody but Newsom.

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Speaker 1: The Senate leader Tony Atkins's San Diego Democrats decided that

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Speaker 1: it's time to repeal it. Basically it's been didn't do

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Speaker 1: anything virtue signaling, right, Because the longer they had this band,

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Speaker 1: disagreed with. Twenty three states now have some law that

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Speaker 1: when Jerry Brown signed the law in twenty sixty n

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Speaker 1: twenty three states, and if the country, and if I cared,

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Speaker 1: i'd look it up to see what exactly they passed.

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Speaker 1: But I don't care. Well, you can guess what they passed.

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Speaker 1: But she's just decided that we might as well take

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Speaker 1: this way. I don't even know if they were still

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Speaker 1: abiding by it. Feeble virtue signaling. I'm sure there, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it was only a public facade. It was theater. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to do any business with these states.

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Speaker 1: It's half the country. How do you not do business

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Speaker 1: with half the country? That's ridiculous. You ought to be

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Speaker 1: a law like that? What was not? As that do

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Speaker 1: us any good? That we can't have any government or

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Speaker 1: Those hack shouldn't be going anywhere and didn't just go

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Speaker 1: to conferences and conventions? Were they going to try to

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Speaker 1: going to come next to that would have been like

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Speaker 1: half the states too? Probably? Yeah, why don't you just

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Speaker 1: seed just get it over with seced. You don't seem

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Speaker 1: to like this idea that people can govern themselves and

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Speaker 1: they have different viewpoints than you have. I'm just the

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Speaker 1: incredible intolerance of this crowd. It's stunning. It said it

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Speaker 1: created a problem for scholars at public universities who found

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Speaker 1: See now you can't even do scientific research right because

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Speaker 1: travel list. Ridiculous. Conway's here, thank you. Well, we're covering

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Speaker 1: the big, big story. M Dean Sharp's coming on with

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Speaker 1: this tonight. That's the big story. Is he under indictment?

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Speaker 1: I don't think has he been conveyed? I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: We got the Donald Trump indicted, We have Gwyneth Paltrow innocent.

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Speaker 1: Those are two big stories. And then Joe bus Guyano's

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Speaker 1: coming on with us because they that buried the Mark

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Speaker 1: Ridley Thomas story. Yeah, convicted of bribery. That's the one

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Speaker 1: I'm happening, not on this show. It didn't bury it. No, not, No,

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Speaker 1: We're doing We've done victory laps every hour. Yea. Mark

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Speaker 1: Ridley Thomas, he is just he's just one of the

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Speaker 1: worst phoniest, most pompous boars I've ever met in my life.

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Speaker 1: You turn on TV, though, and he doesn't exist. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't find any news Trump stories wiping everything out, even

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Speaker 1: National News is still on, uh, you know, as a

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Speaker 1: special report talking about Trump, Like right now, they don't

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Speaker 1: even know the specific case yet, do they. They just

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Speaker 1: the case? That's it? That's right, yeah, And they've been

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Speaker 1: gonna go on for the rest of the year. It's

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Speaker 1: while how long you're going to spend on it? I

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Speaker 1: and then somebody here is a big anti Trump fan

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Speaker 1: with shirtless rubbing his nipples. I'm like, oh, something's going on.

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Speaker 1: Something's going on here. I've seen and woman. You remember

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Speaker 1: he was a man, the white guy. All right? Conway's

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Speaker 1: up there, Yeah, thank god, thank go. When were you

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