1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to twenty four, 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: episode one of two Dailyshi Guys stay production of My 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. It's a podcast, this one where we take 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it is Monday, 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: February four, Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day to one and all. 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien a K. He makes his 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: money off tragedy. Yeah, he's a selling nine eleven tease. 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: Oh he's an old grifter, way out of line Julianni. 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: That is courtesy of Rumham McDuck, Rumham McDuck two a 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: K s in uh in the span of a week. 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: Well done. Good call back to the great Rudy Giuliani 12 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: and his nine eleven T shirts that he was selling 13 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: for I believe seven dollars to try and raise to 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: try and raise money for his legal fees. Anyways, I'm 15 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by today's special guest co host, 16 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: a producer behind shows like Fake Doctor's Real Friends, Welcome 17 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: to our show. You've heard her on Pop Culture Happy 18 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: Hour and read her at Vulture, The A V Club 19 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: teamboat Paste, many more. She is the brilliant and talented 20 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Joe Alimony, the Purple Lipstick Don, the four Local Survivor, 21 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: and the Marble Defender. Yes, yes, yes, we're back. We're ready. 22 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: Entine's Day? Have you? Valentine's Day to you two? Speaking 23 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: of four Local, which is I think the traditional beverage 24 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: of Valentine's Day in this household, and you don't you 25 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: want to have a good time, you don't want to 26 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: remember it his money exact. Yeah, Joel, We're thrilled to 27 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: be joined in our third seat by a very funny 28 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: TV writer for animated shows such as Sonic Boom, you'n 29 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: a Kitty, the upcoming Transformers BOS and the award winning 30 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: short The Accomplice. Please welcome, the very funny, the very 31 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: talented great but hey, you guys, what's up? Man? Me? 32 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: A k A. I did not prepare and also known 33 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: as that's okay, you don't you don't have to do that. 34 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: I have had one and my brother is a producer 35 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: on the show, and he was like, do you make 36 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: me want to come up with some more? And I 37 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: was like, that's a good yeah, leave Joe alone. No, no, 38 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: he's he was like, they miss smiles. I was trying 39 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: to get the fans of shout out who Joel did 40 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: not credit for her A k is by the way, 41 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: so trying to discord, and I looked at the discord 42 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: and saw what they were talking about, and then made 43 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: them up myself. So that's how we got here. We're 44 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: all together now, Greg, are you coming from the Ninja 45 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: Turtles headquarters? That is my backdrop today. That's wonderful. Yeah, 46 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's just a backdrop. It doesn't smell as 47 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: bad as I imagine it does normally for the Ninja Turtles. 48 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: Did they ever come aeremony in video game? Sweats perfect 49 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: and sewage? We don't talk about that. It just candles. 50 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: It's like Brewer notes over there. It's not in our 51 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: forefront of our heads. I love it. Good good hangout spot. 52 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: It's not bad. Yeah, yeah, it is a It is 53 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: a fun background. You're telling me. It's only a zoom background. 54 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: It's not an actual No. I don't live in a 55 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: sewer currently. At least I didn't know you work in animation. 56 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know if you actually lived in an animated 57 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: world or what we were working with here. Roger Rabbit 58 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: style about working in and animation. Sometimes I worry that 59 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: I might end up having to live in the sewer. 60 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: But I'm sure we'll get to that. Let's talk, let 61 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: us know, yeah, yeah, what's what's happening in the world 62 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: of animation. Well, if you if you've been paying attention 63 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: and on Twitter or I guess you have, maybe you 64 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: have to be in the same circles as I. But 65 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: currently going on and starting again today, the Animation Guild 66 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: is going back into negotiations with the AMPTP, the Association 67 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: of Motion Picture and Television Producers. And uh, this is 68 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: a good thing that gives us a chance to kind 69 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: of fight for more money and and and and you know, 70 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: just get a better deal overall. And you know, I'm 71 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: not hearing any official capacity. I'm not on the negotiating 72 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: not negotiations team, I'm not you know, I'm not an 73 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: elected official in the guild. I'm just an engaged member, 74 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: active in the writer's community. And I was looking at 75 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: my paychecks, and I was looking around at my colleagues 76 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: and frankly wondering why so many of us who were 77 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: active working as writers and another places in the industry, 78 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: we're kind of still struggling to get out of our 79 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: like one bedroom apartments and like why why are we 80 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: still in this position? And so, you know, I wanted 81 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: to help out in in any way I can. So 82 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, how can I contribute? And I 83 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, so I started like making some memes and 84 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: contributing in the dumbest way possible that could still help 85 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: spread the word. And that's just kind of part of 86 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: the campaign that has turned into hashtag pay animation writers 87 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: and hashtag new deal for animation and so, uh yeah, 88 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: that's what I'm here to discuss. That's awesome, man, I 89 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: mean not awesome that you're in the position here in, 90 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: but very cool that you guys are doing something about it. 91 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: I think it's come up a couple of times on 92 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: Zeitgeist before, like just in passing, I think we talked 93 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: about the fact that one of like the writer of 94 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: was that it was one of the class sick Disney 95 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: films that made billions of dollars maybe a Laddin, maybe 96 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: Lion King. Like I think they got paid in pizza, 97 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: like they did. They did not like they they are 98 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: not living in a mansion somewhere. They spent like four 99 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: years writing and rewriting the script for Disney and got 100 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: like a lump sumb and they're like, all right, and 101 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: we'll sometimes credit you. Yeah, I can't be a percent sure. 102 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: I think it's Lion King you're talking about. And I 103 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: feel like the writers were they weren't you know, they 104 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: weren't w g A. They were maybe in TAG and 105 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: they weren't getting quite a great rate. And then you know, 106 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: the Lion King has been remade practically shot for shot 107 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: in a live actor that's why it came up. And 108 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: those and whoever wrote that is getting like bank compared 109 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: to the person who wrote the original material that everybody 110 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: knows and loves and it's the reason why another one 111 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: was even made. So, yeah, these are the kind of 112 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: struggles that are that are going on. Yeah, I mean, 113 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: it's wild to me that we have this problem in animation, 114 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: particularly when you consider about jobs that are like one 115 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: to one in the industry, like writing an animated feature 116 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: is no different than writing a live action feature, and 117 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: yet the price disparity between those writers it's huge. It's 118 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: like phenomenal, and trying to wrap our minds around fat 119 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: and then when you get into the artists of it all, 120 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, if you are outside the Pixar bubble, like 121 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: it's really a struggle. Yeah, yeah, it's it's pretty crazy. 122 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, the I mean, the numbers are 123 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: massively different, you know. And like you said, like a 124 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: thirty minute script written by you know, for an animated 125 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: show versus a thirty minute script written for a live 126 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: action show, that's the same number of pages, that's the 127 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: same amount of work, except one gets paid significantly less. 128 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: A a live action compared with live action and animation 129 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: freelance script gets twenty six to sixty six percent less 130 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: than a live action script. Like it's a huge disparity. 131 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: Oh my Lloyd, it only makes sense for the purposes 132 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: of you know, CEOs and massive corporations keeping their bottom line. Yeah, 133 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with it has nothing to 134 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: do with like the revenue that any of these things 135 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: are pulling in. You know, Like what what has made 136 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: historically more money over time? Is it SpongeBob and Transformers 137 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: and Ninja Turtles or you know, I'm just gonna pick 138 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: on some shows from the eighties, so I'm not picking 139 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: on anybody current. You know, Like what is Remington's Steel 140 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: or Jag or Pacific Blue. You know, like those aren't 141 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: pulling in the same kind of money in the long 142 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: term as a SpongeBob SquarePants, which is like the number 143 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: one most binge show on Paramount Plus. Well, if they 144 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: would pick up my Remington's Steel reboot that I've been shopping, 145 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: then maybe they would start making some money. They should, 146 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 1: they should, Yeah, it makes no sense. Is there like 147 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: a standard explanation for why the difference in price? Like, 148 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: is there is there something intry comes back and like, 149 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: well x y Z got different. Yeah, I mean part 150 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: of it is like the the union that we're in. 151 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: We're not part of the w g A, so like 152 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: it was a different contract initially. I don't want to 153 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: get into the semantics of all of that, but basically, 154 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: like there we need to close the gap on that 155 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: parody between the two because it really just doesn't make sense. 156 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: You know, I always wanted to write. I mean, like 157 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: I always wanted to write for cartoons as a kid. 158 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: You know, a nine year old me would be ecstatic 159 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: to learn I've written for characters like Sonic or The Transformers. 160 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: But nine year old me also thought I'd own a 161 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: house one day. Sorry, kids, So I'm very excited to 162 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: be talking to somebody who wrote for the Transformers. When 163 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: we say bedtime prayers at night. My my three year 164 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: old standard bedtime prayer is that he have cool transformer dreams. 165 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: This is big. I'm going to be bragging about it 166 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: to him, and not in a nice way, like really 167 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: rubbing it in his face when he gets home from preschool. 168 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, We're we're gonna talk. This 169 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: kind of leads nicely into our first story, which we're 170 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: gonna get to after we get to know you a 171 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: little bit better. But yeah, I mean, the first story 172 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: we have on the dock is like inflation and the 173 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: like the standard narrative in the media like is like 174 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: economists are saying, oh, it's because of all these you know, 175 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: the pandemic disrupted the supply chain and all these various things. 176 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: But Dr Lindsay Owens, who is the executive director of 177 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: Groundwork Collaborative, is pointing out that if you listen to 178 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: their earnings calls, it just sounds like they are raising 179 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: prices because they can, and making record profits, like they're 180 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: making more money than they've ever made before during a 181 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: global pandemic because they can. And it's just I feel 182 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: like this is all part of the same sort of 183 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: system that we're talking about where you know, like we 184 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: talk a lot of ship on capitalism on this podcast, 185 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: but it's not like like all the all the you know, 186 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: things that are supposed to happen in capitalism that are 187 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be like checks and balances and like well, 188 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: if like one company decides to raise prices, that's bad 189 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: for them because the other companies will come in and 190 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, offer the same thing. For Look, like that 191 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: ship isn't happening anymore because like the corporations have all 192 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: the powers and they haven't been checked in terms of 193 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: like monopolies. So we'll we'll we'll get into all that 194 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: ship in the second act. That's gonna be fun. We're 195 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: gonna maybe get to what is happening at military bases 196 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: because very mysterious, like a bunch of crime, A very 197 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: mysterious bunch of crime, a new the True Crime podcast. 198 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the fact that it is Valentine's Day, which, 199 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: according to Gordon Ramsey and me, after fourteen years of 200 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: being married and going out to dinner on bound, this 201 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: day is the worst day to go out to dinner 202 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: of the three hundred and sixty five options available to us. 203 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: So talking about why that is, why it's still sometimes fun, 204 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: and whether it's cool to sit on the same side 205 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: of the table with somebody that you're on a date topic. 206 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: Maybe I'd also like to get you guys thoughts on 207 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: the best non traditional romantic movies. Around Christmas, there's always 208 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: the damn okay uh I did kind of spring that 209 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: on you, and like I added back to the dock 210 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: five minutes before we start recording, it's a little worried, 211 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh, I'll never mind. It's Joel. 212 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, like around Christmas where everyone's like, Dieheart's actually 213 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: my favorite Christmas movie. I say that, So I don't 214 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: know why I made it. That person sound like an asshole, 215 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: But the you know what, what is the equivalent Valentine's Day? Like, 216 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: what's the romantic movie that's not overtly classic romcom? So 217 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that plenty more. But before we get 218 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: to any of that, Greg, we like to get to 219 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: know our guests by asking, then, what is something from 220 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: your search history? Search history? All right, I'm gonna start 221 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: in a weird place. Guys. We're going we're going real 222 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: deep cuts. So I I love going to the flea market. 223 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: My wife and I go to the flea market. I'm 224 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: a big toy collector, so I like to find like old, 225 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: you know, vintage retro stuff from my childhood that I 226 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: can get, you know, for for pretty cheap. Though recently 227 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: I went to the flea market the other week. I 228 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: only spent ten bucks and I walked away with some 229 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: cool stuff, including something called SNA alliens. I don't know 230 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: if either of you remember know what SNA aliens is 231 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: at all, but this is what I did. This sounds 232 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: like one of the bad pitches from the movie Big, 233 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: like the scenes where they're like in the toy boardroom 234 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: and like one of the out of touch middle aged 235 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: people is like, what about like aliens that are snails? 236 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: I think it was like Robot Buildings was one of 237 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: the ones that, yeah it was a building that Transford 238 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: to shoot down. I still think building would have been 239 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: a great toy. But but snailly And so here's the 240 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: snailien that I bought. You could see on the and 241 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: the visual medium that we're all listening to, but I 242 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: can't really it looked like a small mauformed wolf person. 243 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: They're horrifying to look at. Yeah, a little yellow dude 244 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: a little rubber thing. But so the Snailions were a 245 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: line of toys that was it was these Snailions from 246 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: outer space. They moved, they flew down to Earth and 247 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: settled down in Snail Francisco and and they fight against 248 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: the evil Lunar Ticks. And the thing about him is 249 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: they're basically another one of those Ninja Turtle rip offs. 250 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: So each of the characters, and you know, the Ninja 251 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: Turtles are named after famous painters Leonardo Donna, Tella, Michlanta, Rafael. 252 00:14:54,960 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: The Snailions are are all named for presidents, so it's Washington, Jefferson, Rosevelt, 253 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: and Lincoln. And then if you like look at the 254 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: if you look at the art on like the packaging 255 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: that I've stumbled upon through my Google search, they even 256 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: do this shot where like all of them are standing 257 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: heroically and then they have the coins. You know, there's 258 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: like there's like a quarter, a nickel, a diamond, a 259 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: penny that they're just standing so proudly in front of. Yeah. 260 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what more to say about the Snailians, 261 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: but this does say something about me that this this 262 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: is something I spent significant time looking into. And there 263 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: is a VR video game on Steam called Snailions. Yes, unrelated, okay, okay, 264 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: I was like, did somebody ReVibe this? No? Yes, that 265 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: of course I stumbled upon that in my Google search 266 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: as well. But no, that's that that is unrelated. So 267 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: there's a little, uh, there's a little peek into my 268 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: Google search history. Yeah. That that picture that you were describing, 269 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: I found it on one of the first Snailiens search results. 270 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: And it's on a single web page that has just 271 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: combined all the text and pictures on a single like 272 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: a like a word document, first sentence, first sentence on 273 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: the page. So it says Snailiens like it's the title 274 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: of a term paper, and it says I've been running 275 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: this sad little website since early two thousand one. It's like, damn, 276 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: all right, you got me, Greg. They do not appear 277 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: to be snails, is my? Is my? No? Well, they came. 278 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: They initially came with some sort of armor that I 279 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: guess makes them more but it does not. But it 280 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: looks cool as hell. It's like almost as techy because 281 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: they're still bipedal, which makes no sense for a snail. Uh, 282 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: And I guess they're squishy bodies. Are the snail part. 283 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: And then the armor is quote unquote the shell. It 284 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: doesn't have a nice swirl pattern on it. Again, I 285 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: think a miss from the design team, but it does 286 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: look cool. It's like as Tech meets Transformers armor. Yeah. 287 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: But so they are lying to consumers to convince them 288 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: that these creatures are the slowest animal like that kids 289 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: know about basically, Like, I mean, I doubt that that 290 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: was a push like, oh, they're really slow. Like I 291 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what it is about snails 292 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: that they thought explicitly appealed to kids. But like you said, 293 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: they apparently ignored it entirely. So it just had They 294 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: had a sort of good name that was catchy, and 295 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: they were like, let's roll with it. Was the plan 296 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: to eventually make an animated television show, because I feel 297 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: like that's a little lot of groups were back in 298 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: the day. Damn, we really missed out. I don't think 299 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: it would have been good, but I do think it 300 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: would have been great to make fun out of something. 301 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: I would kill to write the Snailien's TV show. Yeah, 302 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: you guys, very Greg hire him. Now Salt has to 303 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: be like figure into this and some where, like the 304 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: Evil Salt Monster the evil salt truck or something. Yeah, 305 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: if the lunar tics had yeah, salt guns that fired 306 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: on them, I mean that wouldn't that would be horrifying. 307 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: You we've seen salt can do to these things. Yeah, 308 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: every kid has seen that. Man, I just really want 309 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: to be at the pitch session where this guy greenlight 310 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: it sounds amazing. Where where was Josh Baskin when you 311 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: needed him? What is something you think is overrated? Greg Man? 312 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about toys all day, but 313 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: I but I'm going to the funk pop vinyls. You 314 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: guys shot fired fired, Well, this is everybody's favorite everybody's 315 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 1: favorite toy, I guess. I I understand the charm of 316 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: having one toy with one aesthetic and you can get 317 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: every line of everything so they all look nice next 318 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: to each other. But I don't want my toys extra deep. 319 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want them like cute and adorable 320 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: and and and I want them extra detailed and craggy 321 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: and pustulating or or alternatively on like really cheap, poorly 322 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: made stupid things, but snail based things. But yeah, I 323 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: don't know they're they're they're too cute for me. And 324 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: everybody loves them, and I just go, like, that doesn't 325 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: appeal to me. I don't want something adorable. I want 326 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: something that that looks like it was from a horror movie. 327 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: I totally respect that, and I would say that they 328 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: are not toys, Like I don't know who's like to me, 329 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: And toys got to inspire imagination and storytelling and all 330 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: of that, Like you want to like take it down 331 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: and like pose it or something, and it has none 332 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: of those capabilities. It is to your point, it is 333 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: specifically designed just to be cute. As a person who like, 334 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: I'm super into Carre. I don't know if you can 335 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: see on my back wall, those are a lot of 336 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: my portraits of some of my favorite animated characters, um, 337 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: gro Goo Catwoman. But I think I like pop punkos 338 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: because they look nice in my collections. You don't have 339 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of iron Heart Rerea stuff and then there's 340 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: right in there and it's all like cute and packaged 341 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: and just from a design. I don't understand the people 342 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: who keep them in boxes and then just have rows 343 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: and rows of boxes of pop punkos. Um, you can't 344 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: see them. They're not on display. They come with cute 345 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: little stands so that you can easily display them. I 346 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: feel like they're like nineties meaning babies. Put them all 347 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: over your desk and show a little bit about your personality, 348 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: highlight what characters you like, good conversation starters. But to 349 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: your point, definitely not a toy, and these are these 350 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: are a valuable toy. It would appear like there are 351 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: they trade, it varies, it varies, are probably very worthless. 352 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: They I mean, they make them for literally every franchise, 353 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: and I p you can imagine. So I think that's 354 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: the appeal. Really I get that, But I'm looking at 355 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: the list of the most valuable as of Alex de 356 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: Large Clock, Quark, Orange Funco. Really, I'm disappointed in US 357 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: as a society. Horrible little rapists. I know. I've always said, like, 358 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: somebody needs to bring out how adorable this character is. 359 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: And finally, okay, get your Jamie Jamie Lanister. Your Dumbo 360 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: was was a valuable one for a little while. Okay, yeah, 361 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: they seem very collector oriented and not very toy oriented. 362 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: What is like, what is the most valuable toy other 363 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: than beanie babies, which I know we can all agree 364 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: are never going down to value, and my children's entire 365 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: education is based in beanie baby investments. But besides that, 366 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: what's valuable these days? You know, that's a good question. 367 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: I I I'm not entirely sure. I'll tell you one 368 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: that I know is particularly valuable. The the the Kenner 369 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: Star Wars original nineteen eighties Boba Fett figure that came 370 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: out was you know, released in very limited quality quantities 371 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: rather and so that one has like a a big following. 372 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that it's the most expensive, it's certainly 373 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: one that I know goes for a pretty high price 374 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: tag because of the nostalgia of it being like almost 375 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: the first thing that made Boba Fette popular. Yeah. Yeah, 376 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: between that and the Christmas special. Sure, it makes sense 377 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: because that was like a character that they didn't do 378 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: enough with. But it was like, so by creating a 379 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: fan an action figure, you were like doing the first 380 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: fan fiction or like not the first fan fiction, but 381 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: like you were letting children do their own bad little 382 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: fan fiction stories, and it like kind of grew from there. 383 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: That's kind of interesting. Yeah, it's great. I also know 384 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: that the Transformers toys, like the early ones, you can 385 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: fetch a high price and then now even some of 386 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: the detailed new constructions of them go for quite a lot. 387 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: It's my friend got me into, like he collects Transformers 388 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: toys and of like anime bust figures basically and different. 389 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: Now is like that is the whole world I had 390 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: no idea about. It's wild to me, the accuracy of 391 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: the detail and the money spent. But then when you 392 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: see someone's full display case, it's a little bit impressive. 393 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: You're like, wow, this is It's right. It's like collectible art, 394 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: but in your favorite fandom and I can dig it. Yeah, 395 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: like it. I feel like Transformers highest form is the 396 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: toy like they are like they are, they are toys 397 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: that then have movie. And I haven't seen the animated show, Greg, 398 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: that you wrote for, so maybe I will change my tomb. 399 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: But like that that it's so amazing to have a 400 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: toy that can transform between robot and like vehicle and 401 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: if they like nail the making of the toy, like 402 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: that's so aising. Anyways, great great insight from me there, Greg, 403 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: What something you think is underrated? Underrated? Okay, here I'm 404 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: going out on a limb here, I'm gonna say buttered noodles, 405 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think everybody wants to give 406 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: a lot. You know, you give credit to the you know, 407 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: a marinara or or a vodka sauce or a carbonara. 408 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: You know, that's that's your go to in your head 409 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: when you're thinking about pasta. But when you just take 410 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of butter, maybe throwing some grilled onions, 411 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: if you're making like a bone in chicken, you add 412 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: a little schmaltz into that top with some parmesan. That's 413 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: that's like really good food. That's like really easy to 414 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: do and isn't a whole it's not a whole headache 415 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: in the kitchen. You can just kind of like toss 416 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: it together and suddenly that's a that's a top quality 417 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: side dish or hole dish. Right. Controversially, No, it is 418 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: kind of controversial. It's like not controversial with young children. 419 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: I think young children think love that love a buttered noodle. 420 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: It really I I think of it as like too 421 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: bland for me. I'm a real I'm a real tomato bitch. 422 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: I love sauce, I love tomato salsa. But yeah, I've 423 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: never been into the buttered noodles because it tastes too 424 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: much like noodles to me and not not enough, Like 425 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what I have associated pasta with, which 426 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: is the marinara sauce, But maybe that's the key to 427 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: the greatness of butter noodles. It's like this is the 428 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: base of the dish, right, Like technically you're showing up 429 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: for spaghetti and you've associated it with the marinera on 430 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: top of the noodle should be the highlight of that dish. 431 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: And as to get more into like like I've recently 432 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: really gotten into ramen and I'm like reading recipes on 433 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: how to make it from scratch and stuff, and like 434 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: there's so much technique in a noodle and create like 435 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: crafting it. You know, what kind of flower, what kind 436 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: of grind on that flower? How long are you mixing 437 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: it at? What to picture that? I think if you 438 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 1: get a quality noodle and you're just tasting which a 439 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: little bit of butter, you're really putting that noodle like 440 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: on a pedestal and asking people to taste just that noodle, 441 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: And I can see I can see where that would be, 442 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: like you know, this is the highlight, Like really experience 443 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: and enjoy this part of the dish. I typically you're 444 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: just trying to get through. Okay, I see it. Are 445 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: you putting high quality like noodle in into a buttered 446 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: noodle dish? No, I'm saying you get you get some 447 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: egg noodles, and then you just you just get something 448 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: like grilled onions. You fix that and suddenly parmesan on top, 449 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: and you've got you've got something more than just butter noodle. 450 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: I think, okay, yeah, all right, I think I think, yeah, alright, 451 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: but controversial will be hearing from our listeners, maybe more 452 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: than any guest we've ever had. But all right, let's 453 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about 454 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: inflation and bountie stuff. Mh. And we're back, and yeah, 455 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: a lot on a record inflation these past couple of months. 456 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: And the standard media economist narrative seems to be that 457 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: it's a number of factors, but they always end up 458 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: pointing back to that the government just gave you guys 459 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: too much dang money for your own good and now 460 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: we we have to just charge you all this, all 461 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: these high prices, and that that doesn't fully make sense 462 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 1: to me, because that's not how right like you're supposed 463 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be competition in a in a market, 464 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: if you will, like that that's supposed to be a 465 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: thing that you can't just do just because you you 466 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: want to, and that that appears to be what's happening. 467 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: So this Dr lindsay All Owns, executive director of Groundwork Collaborative, 468 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: which is dedicated to advancing progressive economic ideas, actually did 469 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: the work of going and listening to earnings calls, which, 470 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: if you're not familiar, like every public company has to 471 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: every quarter, you know, reveal their information to investors, and 472 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: then they have a call where people can then ask 473 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: them questions. And this is where you're going to get 474 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: some honesty, right because you know, people want to know 475 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: what's really going on, what's driving the numbers they're seeing, 476 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: and whether they should stay invested, all that all that 477 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: fun stuff. And so she looked at these and she 478 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, they just decided to charge more money 479 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: and in in exchange got record profits. Like they're they're 480 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: making more money than they've ever made at this time 481 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: when we're inflation is supposed to be out of control. 482 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: So some ample, she pulled the company three M, which 483 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: produces N nine masks and other things crowd on its 484 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: earnings called that the team has done a marvelous job 485 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: in driving price price has gone up from point one 486 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: percent to one point four to two point six percent. 487 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: We see that to be a tail wind. I'm gonna 488 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: just stop. I'm gonna look for my look elsewhere from 489 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: my double sided sticky tape mounting hooks or something. Right, 490 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to m yeah, I'm sure they like on 491 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: them too. That's the other problem is that, like, there's 492 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: so much consolidation that you can do this. If you 493 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: are just a massively powerful major corporation in a industry, 494 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: you can just be like, all right, we're going to 495 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: raise the prices, and that will either you know, put 496 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: pressure on our competitors to raise the prices so they 497 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: can keep up with our record breaking profits, or the 498 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, the company will try and undercut us. But 499 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: somehow that's not happening. We don't know why. Weird Tyson 500 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 1: one of the big four meat monopolies that Biden is 501 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: targeting for fixed price fixing, which is supposed to be illegal, 502 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, but not not a huge scandal for 503 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 1: some reason, because it's a massive corporation doing the robbing 504 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: at a high level of people and so nobody like 505 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: the American media and just like public is not it 506 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: feels incapable of having the story of meat monopolies price 507 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: fixing become like a craze, Like it just seems like 508 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: the sort of thing that the media will ignore the 509 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: ship out of because they it's just like they're they 510 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: don't do that, they don't give a fuck, Like, but 511 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: Tyson has us in such a chokehold, Like if you 512 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: think about if if you're on a low income, like 513 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: Tyson's probably the most affordable meat product that you can buy, 514 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: and it's every goddamn where, like including like I think 515 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: mcdonaldy's is Tyson Chicken as well, Like there's it's everywhere. 516 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: It's impossible to escape. On top of that, Tyson has 517 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: a lot of nerve like price gouging us when the 518 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: way it treats its workers has been on blast for 519 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: so long, just completely inhospitable conditions, long hours, horrible, egregious 520 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: like wounds and accidents happening on site that it's it 521 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: does seem like they're kind of moving in plain sight 522 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: and are just kind of gangsters about it. Not to 523 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 1: give them any kind of flair, but they're just like 524 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: you just have to deal with this. You're gonna keep 525 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: paying us for this product, so just eff and deal 526 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: with it. I mean, that's the that seems to be 527 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: the entire model though with every one of these is 528 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: that they are not you know, after the two Financial crisis, 529 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: like when the banking sector funked up as bad as 530 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: a sector can and got out of it with like 531 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: still getting their annual bonuses while people were like being 532 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: driven into like not having homes, Like I they are 533 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: not dumb. They paid attention to that, and now like 534 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: it's just it really feels like that part of the 535 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: civilization is just out of control and knows that they 536 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: like don't don't have to do ship that they don't 537 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: want to do. And so in the case of Tyson, 538 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: they saw their profits nearly double after price hikes of 539 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: on beef and on chicken, which the CEO attributed to 540 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: the quote continued resilience of our multiprotein portfolio. I think 541 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: it is. But it's also like if you step back 542 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: to like so if you look at the corporateness of 543 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: it all, or look like these giant corporate monsters making 544 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: so much money and devaluing human life, and it's awful 545 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: if we look at the human condition of it, the 546 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: idea that there are individual people actively engaged in doing this, right, 547 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: I think there's something about like the corporate structure that 548 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: just has to be dismantled from the outside because all 549 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: they're doing is their job, right, It's such tunnel vision, 550 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: Like my job is to figure out how much we 551 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: can make off this product. And if we can make 552 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: more than I'm rewarded for that and I keep my 553 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: family and money and we're good like and and because 554 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: these companies are so large and so just connected from 555 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: especially the higher up you go, the more you're disconnected 556 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: from the people at the bottom of your company, the 557 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: less like actively engaged you are in the pain that's 558 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: being caused. And I think having that emotional distance allows 559 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: you to keep like chucking along in this in this 560 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: way that allows you to abuse so many people. And 561 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: I think, like I've started to see it, yes, in 562 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: my own grocery bill, but also in like watching people 563 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: tweet out like previous grocery bills to their current grocery 564 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: bills has been like a little bit horrific, you know. Yeah, yeah, 565 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: especially see like single moms being like I'm not buying 566 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: anything else. There's no additional things being purchased. And I'm 567 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: paying fifty dollars more a week to feed my children. 568 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: That's money out of French or prescription pills or whatever 569 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: it happens to be that they need that week. Yeah, 570 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: I don't know what gets to them to make them 571 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: change that structure. Yeah, it makes you look at the 572 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: inflation that we're all seeing and going like, how much 573 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: of this is inflation? How much is of this is 574 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: based on you know, the problems going on with you know, 575 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: COVID and and you know that whole thing, and how 576 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: much of it is just some greedy ceo dragons sitting 577 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: at the top boarding the money and and and that 578 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: seems to be what's happening here. Ever since that one dude, 579 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: the prescription pill guy, got busted for raising prices like 580 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: I don't know d or whatever he decided to do, 581 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: I feel like they've gotten craftier, Like they're really you know, 582 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: you just read Jack, They're like, oh, like that one 583 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: point four to two and a half percent, that's really 584 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: great for us, and we'll just if we keep doing it, 585 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: and that, you know, the frog in the boiling water style, 586 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: then maybe no, one will notice, or if they do notice, 587 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: it'll be too little for them to care. But they're 588 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: no more greedy than CEOs from past decades. They they're 589 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: like they've been trying to do this sort of thing 590 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: for years, for century. They tried to overthrow FDR. They 591 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: like got a American general to like be part of 592 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: what was called the business plot, tried to overthrow FDR 593 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 1: and it didn't work out. But like that's the sort 594 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: of like they just want as much money as they 595 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: can possibly get because that is sort of a corporate 596 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: corporation working in its normal form, Like that that's what 597 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: they're built to do. But the system does has not 598 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: provided the pushback in any real way or decades now, 599 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: and yeah, they're they've realized like oh and we can 600 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: get away with just lying in the mainstream media or 601 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: because the mainstream media are all owned by massive corporations, 602 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: like they just nobody's gonna say ship, we can just 603 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: do like at a time when more people are in 604 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: a desperate situation than you know, in the last hundred years, 605 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: they've been priced couging because Americans got like a two 606 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: thousand dollar check like one time. They're they're like, well, 607 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna just soak that money up real quick, which 608 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: also saw families consolidating, you know, whether that met we're 609 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: all gonna go live under the same roof or you know, 610 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: or we're giving up our second homes and like whatever 611 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: it was leaving our apartments in New York to go 612 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: back to our our familial homes. I think that there 613 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: was a lot more for the first time Americans had 614 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: like a little bit of like a slush fund or 615 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: or at least a little bit more than they had 616 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: to spend before. It doesn't surprise me that they took 617 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: advantage of that, and especially doesn't surprise me when we 618 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 1: consider that these people are no longer and by these people, 619 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 1: I mean like government officials no longer need to work 620 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: for the individuals that vote for them. They just need 621 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: to work for the corporations that are paying them enough 622 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: money to create larger like visual campaigns. You know, can 623 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: I say the right the right things to get my side, 624 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: whether you're a Republican or Democrat, to to acknowledge me, 625 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: and then do I have enough money to outdo commercials? 626 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: And is my marketing team better than yours? Like there's 627 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: no they don't have to serve us directly. And while 628 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: I think that there are definitely some individuals, you know, 629 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: both in Congress hand and Senate who have their their 630 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: communities at heart and and are trying to make, you know, 631 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: quality changes, I also think that the dollar is so insurmountable. 632 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: I just don't know if people will care over you know, 633 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: you need this dollar to survive, and having more dollars 634 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: needs you're more likely to survive. I just don't know 635 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: how we, you know, as a country, as a community, 636 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: get over that. You know, we're trying past it or 637 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: try to change that. Our money means everything to us. 638 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: It's the only way we're going to make it. Speaking 639 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: as someone who used to have no money at all, 640 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: it's just I think it's going to have to implode first. 641 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna have to emplode because I don't 642 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: see anyone giving that up. Yeah, And I mean, like 643 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: Biden has put the blame for inflation, like he has 644 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: said the things that we're saying now, and it's been ignored, 645 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: it's been you know, explained away by economists and by 646 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: the mainstream media, and it's just you know, there there's 647 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: like many examples of this. By the way, Johnson and 648 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: Johnson talked about raising prices despite breaking in billions from 649 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine, and their CEO specifically like talked about 650 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: their model being addressed suffering and death and that's why 651 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: jan J's optimism and opportunity for its future is so bright. 652 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: So se whoa that? Yeah, people are dying, So we've 653 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: got a very right feature. Sure if you can just 654 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: charge whatever the funk you want and nobody's gonna get 655 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: mad like that, it's not truly, he's not great. How 656 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: was that the dollar king the other day? Everything was 657 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: a dollar fifty one? Yeah, we gotta take down the 658 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: dollar king at Yeah, that's that's right. Yeah, But the 659 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: mainstream media is is willing to blame the stimulus being 660 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: too much supply disruption, which the supply chain problems, Like 661 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: we there were definitely like temporary supply chain problems. I 662 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: think the car cars, you're still seeing it, Like I 663 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: have friends who are trying to buy cars and like 664 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: that industry is still having major supply issues. But for 665 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: the most part, like there wasn't a significant period of 666 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: time where like grocery shelves were empty or anything like. 667 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: The to act like that is the reason that they 668 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: had to raise races. I mean, like, even regardless of that, 669 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: the fact that they're making record profits at this time 670 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: that we're all supposed to be kind of struggling and 671 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: scrapping is all you need to know. Really, like it's 672 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: right anyways, So no answers here, but it is very 673 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: frustrating and sorry listeners. Yeah we thought, but yeah, I 674 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: had a feeling. I thought we had this one. All right, 675 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and 676 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: talk Valentine's daff and we're back and okay. So something 677 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 1: I had always suspected based on many years of going 678 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: out to dinner on Valentine's Day and the food and 679 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: service and every every aspect of it being bad was 680 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: confirmed for me by um Gordon Ramsey. So Gordon Ramsey 681 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: says Valentine's Day is the worst. He said this, like, 682 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: you know, not at Valentine's Day. Wasn't an interview about 683 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. It was just him being like, oh, you 684 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: want to know the worst day, Well, that of course 685 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: is Valentine's Day's the worst day of the year. To 686 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: go out busy kitchens with tons of diners means you 687 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: don't get the true feeling of the restaurant, and then 688 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: I think unnecessary adds this part you should be cooking 689 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: on Valentine's Oh yeah, maybe you should be cooking. That's 690 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: the height of romance. To Gordon, Ramsey has a lot 691 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: like you know, like have you ever seen his like 692 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: solo cooking show where he's just like showing you how 693 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: to cook basic dishes and a space that kind of 694 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: looks like his home. He loves that. He's like, no, 695 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: look at this fold in this egg. It's beautiful. He's 696 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: really you have to love it. He's just so passion 697 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: about it. And I think his that's this expression, that's 698 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: his love language. Jack is just let me just make 699 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: you something delicious. It takes me when I when I 700 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: do one of those recipes where it's like, okay and 701 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: this is a thirty minute prep time like that is 702 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 1: three and a half hours, and I am exhausted by 703 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: the end of it, Like I don't. It just does 704 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: not agree with me. My brain doesn't work in the 705 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: kitchen with that sort of thing. My wife ends up 706 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 1: being annoyed because it takes so long and we eat, 707 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: Like by the time we're eating, it's not Valentine's Day anymore. 708 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: It's like two in the morning. Oh no. But according 709 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: to the National Restaurant Association, Ramsey is right that this 710 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: is the busiest day for restaurants of the American population 711 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: dines out on Valentine's Day. Thought, if you as long 712 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: as you're not putting pressure on the meal and the 713 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: experience to be anything but entertaining, Like, go for it, 714 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: but don't don't expect it to be a nice experience 715 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: other than like maybe a fun people watching experience. Yeah, 716 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: because there is this this pressure on Valentine's Day, especially 717 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: if you know, if you don't make a reservation, I'm 718 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: sure you're you're kind of screwed over. But like, you know, 719 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: waiting around in the restaurant and there's like there's it's 720 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: just so crowded and there are people there and and 721 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: and it's louder than usual, and like I don't want 722 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: to be around that. I I gotta agree with Gordo here. 723 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm happy to put on an apron and grill 724 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 1: up something nice, just a couple of days in advance, 725 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: by by something I normally wouldn't buy, and instead of 726 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: paying the sixty dollar price tag, on a filet and 727 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: yonn I you know, I spent like fifteen twenty bucks 728 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: on two of them, and then I could grow them 729 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: up myself. Sante some a sparing against bing bang boom 730 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day dinner. Not if that's a stick. By the way, 731 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be if you're lucky. You just hear you 732 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: say that, and they were like, actually, gonna be much more. Yeah. 733 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: I think. Also you can avoid being around other people, 734 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: which to me is way more roundmantic waiting in line, 735 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: not romantic. Dealing with annoyed waiters. No romance. They're having 736 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: to watch like eighty people propose while you're like just 737 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: trying to chilling for you people. It's like great, another one, 738 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: so good. Yeah. And the food is definitely gonna be 739 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: sub part. It's it's there's you're gonna sacrifice speed for 740 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 1: art in the kitchen, stay home. Yeah. Compare that with 741 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 1: putting on an apron and nothing else grag cats. Yeah. 742 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,280 Speaker 1: So on the people watching front, my my favorite Valentine's 743 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: Day meal that we ever had, I got reservations well 744 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: in advance. Took my wife to a fancy restaurant on 745 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day out here in l A and got a 746 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: front row view of Kevin Nealon and his wife on 747 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: a date together, dressed very nicely with Adam Sandler tagging along, 748 00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: and like it was just like yeah, come to oh 749 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: not third wheel on Valanche as a perpetually single lass, 750 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: I'm not vibing with it, Like you just see him, 751 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 1: like what was happening that day? I don't know, he's 752 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,959 Speaker 1: like shoul I forgot. I would say maybe his gift 753 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: was to his wife to be like, listen, you can 754 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: call space for me today. Yeah, you just here's some 755 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: alone time. The kids have a babysitter. I'll be out. 756 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: You just relax, babe. That's romantic. But so, speaking of 757 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: people watching and the view when you are eating a restaurants, 758 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: the takeout has a breakdown of weather. It's weird to 759 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: sit side by side on a date rather than across 760 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: from one another. I am of the opinion that it 761 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: is weird. And also who gives a ship like I'm 762 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: those are those are both good takes it It is 763 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: strange for like who really cares? I guess there's this 764 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 1: weird you know, feeling off if there's an empty side 765 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: of the table like that doesn't that doesn't work. There's 766 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: something missing there, right, it's not it's not even And 767 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: then what if what if someone you you know you 768 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: don't want to show up, shows up and pulls up 769 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: a chair because they've got a whole side of the 770 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: table too. You need to get the chairs out of there, right, 771 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: so it looks like you're at a like you're a 772 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: married couple at a wedding, you know, like, right, you're 773 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: getting married. Everyone's there to watch you, yeah, and you're 774 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: there to watch them. In turn. The problem with a 775 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: side by side isn't so much for me the optics, 776 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 1: but when a couple is to feeling themselves, you know 777 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, go home, don't be like making out 778 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 1: and I'll touch you under the tap. No, this is 779 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: not the time. Replace we were in public. People are 780 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: trying to there's food literally everywhere. That's to me the 781 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: problem like when you're practically in each other's laps and 782 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: the like. If you it's just it's obnoxious. I'm not 783 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 1: trying to kill your vibe. I'm just saying, if you 784 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 1: could finish dinner, maybe take dessert home and get give 785 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: you that atmosphere and mode there, but leave it out 786 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 1: of the public domain. We don't need it. Yeah, I'm 787 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: strictly in it for the people watching. What my wife 788 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: and I both like to be the one facing out 789 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: so you can see what's happening in the restaurant. Or 790 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: she likes to do the people watching. And I just 791 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: always wanna make sure if a hit man comes in 792 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 1: the door, they don't get the drop on me. So 793 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's but what I do either one The 794 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: only thing don't do it if it's one of those 795 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: like clearly made for sitting across from one another thing 796 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: where you like have to pour all your food in 797 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: a single bowl. But I say, if you're like in 798 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: a booth or something that could be two people sitting 799 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: side by side, go with God. You know that makes sense. Alright, 800 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: let's talk movies. The Diehard conversation around Christmas movies gets 801 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: shipped on a lot, but I do like watching Diehard 802 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,720 Speaker 1: at Christmas. Also the Lethal Weapons underrated Christmas Eve movies. 803 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,399 Speaker 1: No romance plot at the heart of Lethal Weapon, right 804 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: there is, But those are Christmas movies. I'm saying, what 805 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: is the equivalent to you know, die Heart is a 806 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: Christmas movie for Valentine's Day. Doesn't need to be about 807 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day? But what are like some movies to watch 808 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 1: on a date or in around a significant other. They'll 809 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,320 Speaker 1: like get you in that sort of romantic mind space. 810 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,399 Speaker 1: I guess to go, Yeah, okay, I'll throw one out there. 811 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: What about Little Shop of Horrors? Pretty good one, got 812 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: some romantic songs suddenly seem but you know, it's still 813 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 1: got some excessive comic violence and and uh, you know 814 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: you're still feeding people to a giant plan. So you 815 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: got that side of it, but there's still the romantic 816 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: between Audrey and Seymour. Yes, yes, I was gonna say. 817 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: It's got up be like sixties poptoons in it. Some 818 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 1: of your greatest late eighties early nineties comedic performers in there. 819 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: There's it's class act all the way. That is an 820 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: excellent Valentine's Days choice, as I've seen it before. I'm 821 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 1: a perpetually single lass and so these are a single 822 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 1: person's idea of romantic movies. I my dream is to 823 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 1: host a double feature of Phantom Thread and The Lobster. 824 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: It is because I think they're hyper romantic movies. But 825 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: nobody understand well, not nobody, but a lot of people 826 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: don't understand them. Like a lot of people walked out 827 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: of Antis. They're being like, what the fuck? Like, that's 828 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: a deeply deranged couple. Now there's a couple who have 829 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: found each other. Okay, those two people live in a 830 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 1: world of billions and out each other and they enjoy 831 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 1: the weird as ship they do to each other. That's love. 832 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 1: So romantic. I love the lobster because listen, the world 833 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,320 Speaker 1: is constantly trying to force relationships on us. It's so aggressive. 834 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: It's like, you're alone and you'll die alone and there'll 835 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 1: be no children to take care of you. How awful 836 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: for you. I really like and moving the challenges. What 837 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: if it's terrible to be in a relationship? What if 838 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: it's just not fun for me? What if it's awful? 839 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,439 Speaker 1: Do I still have to do this? Do I still 840 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 1: have to harm myself in order to try to be 841 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: with the first thing to please other people? Again? Deeply romantic, 842 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: not a couple romantic, but that self love romance. Really 843 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 1: asking yourself these questions, Do I even want to be 844 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: in a relationship in the first place? You should we 845 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 1: have a love relationship with yourself. I firmly believe that, 846 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: and Lobster invite you to do that. So yeah, I 847 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: think go for the weird routemances. Really invest in the 848 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: idea of what does it mean to be in a relationship. 849 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: And I think if you have found a solid partner 850 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 1: and you guys really love each other, you guys will 851 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: be able to cackle at your friends who are not 852 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: happy romances and be like, who just remind you of both? 853 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:08,720 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly wild the lobster. The lobster of the premise 854 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: is that what now I forget, I forget the premise 855 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: of a lobster, but I remember it's very high concept, right, yes, okay, 856 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: so yes, it's very high concept, but I don't think 857 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 1: it's hard for people to understand. So it's here's what happens. 858 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 1: Single couples get to or the single couples look at me, 859 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: Oh god, okay. Single individuals go to this agency and 860 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, I want to find a partner. They're like, 861 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 1: we have a great success right, we have that because 862 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,879 Speaker 1: if you do not fall in love with the person 863 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: we pick for you after a week, we're going to 864 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 1: turn you into an animal. It can be an animal 865 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,399 Speaker 1: of your choosing. Don't stress you wanna be a dog? Great, 866 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: you will be a lobster. Fine, your main guy, he 867 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: wants to be a lobster because lobster is the cold 868 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 1: claws with the people they love and it's very sweet 869 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: or whatever. Forever yeah, wherever, but they do live for 870 00:51:53,640 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: a long time. Great choice overs. Yeah, boil a lobster 871 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: alive and hear it scream boil two of them alive, 872 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:14,919 Speaker 1: so they're with their loved one hand romantic comic side 873 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: but yeah, and something. As as the movie progresses, he 874 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: has to you know, am I going to conform and 875 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: commit to this woman who is cruel beyond measure a 876 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 1: spoiler alert from a movie from like or whatever. But 877 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: she his brother goes through the program, becomes a dog, 878 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: she kicks him to death so that he can prove 879 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 1: that he loves her the most super just awful, And 880 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: then he has to make some decisions. You know, I'm 881 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: gonna stay here and and be with this person. Am 882 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: I gonna run away with this woman I think I'm 883 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: in love with? But I'm still very confused about one 884 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: to figure it out. Secret society in the woods right 885 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: that tries to get out of there. It's a bunch 886 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 1: of people who tried to run away basically, and now 887 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: they're out in the woods trying not to be turned 888 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: into animals, but still really desperately seeking love. Oh man. 889 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: It really laughs at the idea that you have to 890 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 1: be in a relationship, and I found find it a 891 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: very cathartic watch. Thread is just it's so good, so funny, 892 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 1: like a funny movie, and very gorgeously just gorgeously shot. 893 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: It's a wonderful rom com that it not trying to 894 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 1: be but just happens to fall into that category. And 895 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it for its weirdness. Yeah, one of 896 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: the best times I ever had watching a movie with 897 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: my wife was Wet Hot American Summer, which, if you 898 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: haven't seen it, not quite as horny as the title 899 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 1: makes it sound, not very horny at all, But it's 900 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,800 Speaker 1: just a it's a very silly comedy that we saw together, 901 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: not even like early in our relationship. But I was 902 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 1: surprised by how much she laughed at it too, and 903 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 1: that was just like, oh, wow, we really are the 904 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 1: same person. This is great. And yeah, there's also just 905 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 1: beautiful sex scene featuring Bradley Cooper. I think, amazing something 906 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: for everybody. Yeah, So anyways, any other movies we want 907 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: to call out. I think you could also watch um. 908 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: Any Miyazaki movie to me is a little bit of romance. 909 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 1: How's Moving Castle is my favorite Miyazaki movie, timeless epic 910 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,240 Speaker 1: romance in there. But I mean, even if you wanted 911 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,359 Speaker 1: to do something along of like My Neighbor Totoro, which 912 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 1: is much less of a romance movie but so much 913 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: about love and heart, Gosh just gets swept up in 914 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: the beauty of the animation, and then the sweet and 915 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: simplicity of his tales is really delightful. Is it weird 916 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: to be like movies like a Moonrise Kingdom and stuff 917 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 1: like that, where it's like about children's romance, but there's 918 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: like definitely something sweet about that. Is that? Yeah? I 919 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: don't think so. I think you should totally be able 920 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 1: to watch his movies. Uh, there's the philosophy that you're 921 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: always the person you were even today, there's still that 922 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: child inside, So why not, you know, engage your inner 923 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 1: child with the person you want to spend the rest 924 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 1: of your life with. Come on now, yeah, I mean 925 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: you're not talking about like that would be quite that 926 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 1: would be very weird to have an actual conversation after that. 927 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: What another animated classics. Pretty pretty cute and romantic. One 928 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,720 Speaker 1: of my favorite movies. Any old movie like The Shop 929 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: around the Corner. I mean, listen, we said not cliches, 930 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 1: but when Harry met Sally. It's a top It's a 931 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: top movie, guys. It's it's my favorite fall movie. I 932 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: like watching it in September because it's got those great 933 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: New York leaf changing scenes, always walking through the park 934 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: and everything is orange and golden. But you could literally 935 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: watch it any time, and why not pop it in 936 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: on Valentine's saying, get all those old couple of stories. 937 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 1: I realize that your love story is unique and it's 938 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 1: good no matter what it is. Yeah. Perfect, I'll throw 939 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: a bride of frank it Stein. I'm not sure she's 940 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 1: super receptive to him, now that I'm thinking about it, 941 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: But but there's the there, there's a there's a parallel, 942 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 1: and you could go, um, okay, what's mel Mel's version? 943 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: There you go, popping Young Frankenstein. Excellent, round com excellent, 944 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 1: there you go. I need to I need to watch that. 945 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,800 Speaker 1: Actually I never I never watched that. Oh it's great, Jack, Jenny, 946 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: you've never seen Young Frankenstein, Joel, I have watched the 947 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: movie Jaws two thousand times. It didn't a lot of 948 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 1: a lot of times for other movies, but yeah, I 949 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 1: need to watch it is. I'm actually jealous of you. 950 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm actually jellous. That's what I'm watching with my wife. 951 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 1: It's a good one. Perfect. Also, there's this movie that 952 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: I think influence Shop around the Corner a lot, called 953 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 1: You've Got Mail. If people want to check that one out, 954 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,919 Speaker 1: isn't that isn't You've Got Mail? Based on Shop around 955 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,399 Speaker 1: the Corner? Probably the other way around? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 956 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: ok yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, here we are great together. 957 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:10,439 Speaker 1: I got it is language. Uh, such a pleasure having you. Yeah, 958 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 1: thanks for having really wonderful Where can people find you? 959 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: Follow you and join in your campaign to get people 960 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 1: paid a fair wage? Sure? Yeah, you can follow me 961 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 1: on Twitter at It's Greg Han. And you should totally 962 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: follow the tag writer's Twitter account as well as the 963 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: Animation Guild Twitter account and follow the hashtags hashtag new 964 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: deal for animation and uh hashtag pay animation writers. Yeah yeah, 965 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 1: and is there a tweet or some other work of 966 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 1: social media that you've been enjoying? Sure? Well, you know, 967 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 1: while we're on it, I will share this one in particular, 968 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: Joey Cliff I believe he's a friend of the show. 969 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 1: He helped put together a video campaign with you know, 970 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: tons of animation workers and and other really talented people 971 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: speaking out. It features Adam Conover, Phil Lord, Raphael, Bob Waxburg, 972 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 1: Marrow Wilson, Ellie, council member, uh Nitya Ramen, tons of 973 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: other talented people all saying, hey, pay attention, let's get 974 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: a new deal for animation, and let's pay animation writers. 975 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: So that is on the tag writer's Twitter account and 976 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 1: you should totally check it out. Nice ntthew Raman was 977 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 1: the city council representative for my neighborhood. And then they 978 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, we've interviewed her here on the show, a 979 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 1: great leader with very progressive ideals, and they were like, 980 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 1: we're going to read district that she can't have that 981 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 1: much power, and like when nobody was looking to change 982 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 1: your district, So real function and local l A politics. Joel, 983 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 1: Such a pleasure having you uh today and these past 984 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: two weeks. Truly all star performance, one of the one 985 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 1: of the great where it can be people find you, 986 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: follow you. Yeah, thanks for having me, Like gang this 987 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: was fun. I love you all, You're so funny on Twitter. 988 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 1: First of all, you can find me. I know me 989 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: uh j O E L E M O N i Q. 990 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 1: I usually do that better, but that's fine. Perfect tweets 991 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 1: I like, thank you Jack at Dr Dan Schumacher on 992 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 1: Twitter posted a screenshot of North Carolina's online death certificate request. 993 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 1: In there, it says the person listed on the death 994 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: certificate is you can check a box myself or someone else, 995 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: and Dr Schumacher says, I have a few legicial questions 996 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 1: at Gabby d v J tweeted eavesdropping in the West Village. 997 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 1: Everything I wrote failed because it was too sophisticated and 998 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 1: I can relate random person in the West Village. No 999 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 1: one gets me far too sophisticated. And finally from Reductress 1000 00:59:53,280 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: gross successful interview results in full time job and yeah yeah, 1001 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 1: like he's dropping on conversations in l A are way 1002 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: way different in the cafe. Were all the writers right 1003 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 1: and just enjoy? Yeah yeah, and then the occasional life 1004 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 1: coach comes in and interesting things to say. Okay, you 1005 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. Some 1006 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: tweets I've been enjoying. Robin Lopez, NBA player tweeted, Salvador 1007 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 1: Dolly died in nine, it's weird to think that he 1008 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 1: may have seen the movie Predator. Very work, Robin and 1009 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 1: then Ozrich the flap at Chris are Yates tweeted, was 1010 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 1: reading about the silent film era and think about how 1011 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 1: silly the word talkie is and was then forced to 1012 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 1: really consider for the first time the word movie and 1013 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 1: that fucked me up because that is where that word 1014 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,040 Speaker 1: comes from. Is them just being like, it's a picture 1015 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 1: that that moves, it's a it's a day movie time. 1016 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 1: The Last Airbender when they broached like the twenties calls 1017 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 1: them movers, and I think it might be a better 1018 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 1: word movers. Yeah, movies. I'm gonna go check out a mover. 1019 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah amazing. All right, Well, you can find us on 1020 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 1: Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist, where at the Daily Zigeist on Instagram, 1021 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: we have Facebook fan page and a website Daily zigeist 1022 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: dot com, wh we post our episodes on our foot 1023 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 1: notes where we're going off to the information that we 1024 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as a song 1025 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy. Super Producer Justin what 1026 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 1: is a song that you think people might enjoy. Oh, well, 1027 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,880 Speaker 1: today I'm since I think this is the last day 1028 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna leave it with a 1029 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 1: very black song, very black experience. When you're listening to this, 1030 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 1: this kind of reminds me of how to up to uh, 1031 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 1: my grandfather's barbershop to get my hair cut on Saturday mornings. 1032 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 1: But my dad would always play jazz music in the 1033 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 1: car on the way up there, and and it brings 1034 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: me back to that time. This song called Afro Blue, 1035 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: This is an Eric about Doo track featuring Fonte and 1036 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 1: Ninth Wonder. If you ever heard Robert Glaster Experiment unbelievable band, 1037 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 1: Robert Glasters the obviously the leader of that band, incredible musician, 1038 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: So check this out. It's Afro Blue Robert Glaster Erika 1039 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 1: about Fonte and Ninth Wonder. And you can find that 1040 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: in the Foes Amazing well as justin Mabe reference to 1041 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 1: Miles Gray should be back the next episode of the 1042 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: show that you listen to. I think I'll be on 1043 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: this Afternoons trending episode and then on the regular Epps 1044 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 1: going forward. The Daily Zyka is a production of my 1045 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. For more podcast from my her radio, visit 1046 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 1: the I Heard Radio, Wrap, Apple Podcast, or wherever you're 1047 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 1: listening your favorite shows. That is gonna do it for 1048 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 1: us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you 1049 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 1: what's trending, and we will talk to y'all then by 1050 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 1: H