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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships and

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Speaker 2: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling ravalry.

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Speaker 1: No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth.

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Speaker 2: Revelry. That's good.

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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to solo sibling revelry. Meaning my sister

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Speaker 3: is a working stiff.

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Speaker 2: I am not. I currently am on spring break. I

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Speaker 2: am drinking a course light.

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Speaker 3: My kids are running around, and I am filling in

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Speaker 3: for my sister, and I'm filling in.

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Speaker 2: For just you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like this should be a priority

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Speaker 3: and not her acting. But you know, we're on different

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Speaker 3: pages and that's fine.

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Speaker 2: But I'm happy.

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Speaker 3: You know what, maybe there's a chance that I'll be

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Speaker 3: better solo. Maybe all of your writings and comments will

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Speaker 3: come in and be like, you know what, drop the

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Speaker 3: movie star, Drop the sister with eighteen billion followers, who

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Speaker 3: is seemingly the engine behind all of this, Drop her,

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Speaker 3: because the real goddamn talent is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: There's a real possibility that happened.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I would appreciate comments about sort of you

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Speaker 3: know how I did, although you know what, I don't

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Speaker 3: need a fucking comment.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm good at this, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I know I can do this.

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Speaker 3: And we have a really cool guest on today, or

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Speaker 3: I have a really cool guest on today.

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Speaker 2: Her name is Robin Lively. I have known her since

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Speaker 2: I was shit six years old.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about it, but she was She played

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Speaker 3: my my mom's daughter in Wildcats, and I was deeply

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Speaker 3: and madly in love with her. And I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 3: her that. And you know, I know I'm married and

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Speaker 3: have a million kids. I think she's married with a

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Speaker 3: million kids. But I just want to see if there's

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Speaker 3: still a shot, you know. I mean, I think there's

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Speaker 3: only a four year difference, so you never know. I

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Speaker 3: worked with her half brother. It's it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 3: We both have sort of siblings who have reached the

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Speaker 3: pinnacle of fame and stardom and success. And you know,

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Speaker 3: let's see if she's as frustrated as.

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Speaker 2: I am that I didn't quite fucking make it. I

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Speaker 2: mean I did.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, enough of me ranting, please welcome, Let's bring on.

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Speaker 3: Let's open the door for Robin Lively.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm amazing.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: Holy shit, you like have not changed. You still look

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Speaker 3: young as shit, You're still beautiful as ever.

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Speaker 1: Yay, thank you so much. I can't believe how long

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Speaker 1: it's been since I've seen you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's insane.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let me start by saying that I was

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Speaker 3: head over heels in love with you. I mean, oh god,

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Speaker 3: I mean I was a young boy, even though I'm

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Speaker 3: forty seven.

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Speaker 2: So what are we four years apart? Five years apart

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Speaker 2: or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so obviously right now we're both adults and

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Speaker 3: old and you know, we.

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Speaker 2: Both hear death. But Wildcats.

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Speaker 3: Mom did this movie, Wildcats, and then Robin was her daughter,

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Speaker 3: and I mean, man, Brandy was played your younger sister,

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Speaker 2: But I was completely in love with you. I was like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, this is.

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Speaker 1: The sweetest thing I've ever heard. I have a vivid

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Speaker 1: memory of you and Kate out playing, like on a

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Speaker 1: swing set outside somewhere. Didn't you have cute little glasses?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean you did, right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that trip, which was in Chicago is where it

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Speaker 2: Ah, Purple Rain had just.

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Speaker 1: Come out, and oh, my god.

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Speaker 3: I was obsessed with Prince and so that album reminds

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Speaker 3: me of being in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Or they were anything, you know.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I have the greatest memories on set and with

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Speaker 1: Woody was like my buddy. And it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: before cell phones. And I remember being on stage and

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Speaker 1: paiged by his agent and I was waiting in line

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Speaker 1: my god, I can't believe it. I just booked Cheers.

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Speaker 1: I was like, artists, Wow, yes, yes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, wow wow epic?

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god?

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Speaker 3: So what when did you get started? Like you've been

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Speaker 3: an actor for a thousand years, right, I mean at.

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Speaker 1: Least at least one thousand. When I was three.

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Speaker 2: You were three, So how did that even happen?

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Speaker 1: So my mom, my mom is a model, and she

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Speaker 1: was young she started having she she had my oldest

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Speaker 1: sister when she was nineteen, so she was really young

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Speaker 1: when she had us. So she would drag us everywhere

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Speaker 1: to all of her jobs or and I remember, I

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Speaker 1: They were like, Oh, your kids are so cute, should

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Speaker 1: put them in an add with you. And then so

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Speaker 1: we started doing commercials and print. We got an agent,

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Speaker 1: and this was all in Atlanta, in Georgia, and literally

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Speaker 1: it's just all I've ever known. I think I did

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Speaker 1: my first National Network commercial when I was three, and

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Speaker 1: then a movie of the Week when I was five.

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Speaker 1: And then we moved when I think I was probably

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Speaker 2: It moved LA and then we just kept going and going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how.

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Speaker 2: Do you navigate all that? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like you see Silets documentary.

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Speaker 1: You looked at all the kids, yes.

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Speaker 2: Have been in the game, who were all fucked up?

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Speaker 2: You know, how do you manage? How was that managed?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't know how I avoided so much of it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I was just I mean, I was

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Speaker 1: all of it, all of the n City stuff that

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Speaker 1: and I feel so fortunate that, you know, I came

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Speaker 1: It was fun, and I wasn't a partier. I was

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Speaker 1: I've never been like that, so I don't think they

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Speaker 1: you know, I was welcomed into those groups and that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, so I just stayed like, oh, I just

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Speaker 2: None, you knew what was going on around you, or

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Speaker 1: I did. I kind of did, yeah, you know. And

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Speaker 1: what was going on. It was never really I was

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Speaker 3: So you just put your head, put your head down

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Speaker 3: and worked.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then doing that movie Wildcats with your mom

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Speaker 1: was such an angel to me, Like she just with

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Speaker 1: everything that you would imagine she would be, and then

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Speaker 1: some she was just gosh, she was so like warm

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Speaker 1: She made that experience so fantastic, so memorable. She was

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Speaker 1: just the best, she really was. And I wasn't blonde,

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Speaker 1: by the way. That was another nightmare, Like I had

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Speaker 1: her for a few scenes. And then they waked me

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Speaker 1: for the rest of the movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, then then you dyed your hair in the movie.

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Speaker 2: You know it was a wig, right.

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Speaker 1: So like all of that for nothing. And then I

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Speaker 1: remember like the it being a big thing about Brandy

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Speaker 1: having to say a swear word, and it was like

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Speaker 1: this commotion around Okay, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, can you believe how times have changed?

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Speaker 1: I know, crazy?

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Speaker 2: How many kids do you have?

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Speaker 1: I have three kids?

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Speaker 2: How old?

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Speaker 1: My son is twenty one? My daughter's nineteen today, oh

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Speaker 1: and my not it's her birthday. And then our son

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Speaker 1: is sixteen. He just turned sixteen. He's driving. Went to

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Speaker 1: the store for me. Oh gosh, no, I I haven't,

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Speaker 1: but I hate it.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I have sixteen, fourteen, and ten, two boys.

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Speaker 2: Little girl. Oh my gosh, oldest is driving.

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Speaker 3: He's had a girlfriend for a year. So it's like real,

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Speaker 3: it's not that kind of yeah, you know, hook up

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Speaker 3: bee whatever it is? Where where sort of buzzword is

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: You know? Apparently there's one called skibbitty? Now all right?

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Speaker 1: Oh is that right? I haven't heard the son.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a joke.

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Speaker 3: And now my kids like, yo, dad, like that's skibbitty

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Speaker 3: I'm like, just please shut the fuck up, Like I cannot.

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Speaker 3: I can't decipher what this is anymore. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of the style.

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Speaker 3: These days is the same with the big baggy jeans,

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Speaker 2: It's just come full circle.

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Speaker 1: It really has. It really has.

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Speaker 2: Is your kid in college?

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Speaker 1: So two of my kids are, so my daughter is

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Speaker 1: in New York, my son is home, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not looking forward to being an emptynster at all.

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Speaker 1: I just not. I can't.

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Speaker 3: Isn't there a part of you though, that essentially you're free,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, not that there is any burden

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Speaker 2: But you know there's.

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Speaker 3: This moment of like, Okay, it's horrifically sad, but you

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Speaker 3: know now I can go do anything that I want

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Speaker 1: No, you don't have that, none of it, not like

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Speaker 1: literally none of it. You wait till your kid is

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Speaker 1: out of the house and you see what that's like.

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Speaker 1: It is brutal, But do you see her all the time,

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Speaker 1: all the time, but still oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: So going back and growing up. You said you grew up.

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Speaker 1: In Atlanta, I mean grew up, yes, and no, like

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Speaker 1: I was so young when we moved to LA But

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Speaker 1: it does feel like you know, it does feel like

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Speaker 1: home to me and you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, lots of sling You have lots of siblings. So

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Speaker 2: the blood what are you? Who are your bloods?

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Speaker 1: Who are my bloods?

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Speaker 3: Blood siblings? Not the game, not the gag.

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Speaker 2: I know you're.

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Speaker 1: Lingos. Have two brothers and two sisters, and I'm right

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Speaker 1: in the middle.

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Speaker 2: Of of the of your that's full blood. Oh wow, Oh.

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Speaker 3: I have this sort of hyper sensitivity to being there

443
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: for my kids, yes, and making sure that they don't

444
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: feel in any way what I felt back in the day.

445
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: You know.

446
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah.

447
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 3: So you know I'm not speaking to your childhood, but

448
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: did you ever have to do that in sacrifice?

449
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 2: Work for that?

450
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: My husband and we made a pact with each other

451
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: in the beginning because he's an actor as well, and

452
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: we're like we won't get an andy. We're going to

453
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: do this all ourselves, and we're going to make it work.

454
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: You know, whatever happens, we're just going to do it.

455
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: Fortunately I never had to turn down that would have

456
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: been so hard because you know, this industry is so

457
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: like it's not based on necessarily who's the best for

458
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: the role, especially now you know there are so many

459
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: you know, boxes that have to be checked, so it's

460
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: not about the best ever, So when you do get

461
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: those opportunities, it's like, well, how do you turn it down?

462
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: This may not come around for you know, who knows

463
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: how long.

464
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: But I.

465
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: Never had to turn anything down like that, Like I

466
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: wish I could to say that I did, but I

467
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: never had. I never got like an offer for a

468
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: show that was was shooting, and thankfully I didn't because

469
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: that would have been really hard. But I would have

470
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: always have chosen my kids over it. Always I would

471
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: have taken them with me, or we were like, what

472
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: are we going to do if we now the kids

473
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: are in school. This was when they were in like

474
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: elementary school, like this would be easier, But it just

475
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: worked out. I didn't never got anything that and I

476
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: had to make that decision. To like turn down a

477
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: big role. But if I'm working, rarely are we working

478
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: at the same time. It just doesn't ever work out

479
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: that way. So when I'm working, he holds down the

480
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: fort and vice versa. So it's been great.

481
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now they're a lot older, so you don't

482
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: have to worry about it, that's right.

483
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: Now, I don't have to worry about it. So I'll

484
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: think it was But that do you ever do you

485
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: regret any of those jobs that you are like, you know, I.

486
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: Know, I mean, regret is an interesting word, right, I'm

487
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 3: not sure I have many regrets because if I didn't,

488
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: you know, it was a choice that I made, whether

489
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 3: it be a positive one or a negative one, which

490
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: I've made.

491
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: Some horrible, horrible choices in my life just generally.

492
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: Now you would think that you would say, oh, I

493
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: regret doing that, but I don't know where who I

494
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: would be if.

495
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: I didn't, right, right, exactly?

496
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so.

497
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: Of course, I mean you look back and you know

498
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 3: we've I've talked about it, you know before. But you know,

499
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 3: when I got engaged, I something happened psychologically and I spiraled,

500
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And I was unfaithful and

501
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: I was cheating and I was crazy and.

502
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she stuck with you. Well, I told she

503
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: I never got caught.

504
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: I told her everything because I couldn't live with myself

505
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: and you know, get married and be married and have

506
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: children with this sort of weight. I was taking silkwood showers.

507
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: You know, I was crying and be like, oh my God,

508
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: like who am I? But then going off and having

509
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 3: a drink or whatever. So there was something happening to

510
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: me psychologically that I had to sort of get through.

511
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 3: I told her everything, and she's an amazing woman, you know,

512
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: and my mother played a big part in it as well.

513
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: Where you know, it's about looking at the entirety and

514
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: the totality of the relationship, not just the action, even

515
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 3: though it might seem extreme. Let's dig in a little

516
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: bit into why and looking at the whole person rather

517
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: than this one affliction. And because I'm a good man,

518
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: there's no doubt malicious and all that I was going through.

519
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: Whatever I was going through. Yeah, and we were able

520
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: to sort of therapy and you know, do all of

521
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: it and get through it. And honestly, if that didn't happen,

522
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of a person I would be.

523
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: You know, So do I regret it? I mean no,

524
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: I guess not.

525
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: Of course, Yeah, no I regret because where would you pain? Yeah?

526
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to cause anyone any pain.

527
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: But but you grew.

528
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh gosh, I mean.

529
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: You became a different person because of that experience.

530
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

531
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: I think some of our you know, although some choices

532
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: might be bad, if you can sort of come out

533
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: the other end of them and learn from why they

534
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: were bad and how that affected you and anyone else

535
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: around you, then you're only growing and you're building your toolbox,

536
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

537
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: That's true.

538
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: If everything was fucking rainbows and roses, then well, who

539
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: are you?

540
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: Right? Not very interesting for her?

541
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, regret is an interesting word. But

542
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, like you know, I.

543
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: I have, there's parts of me that wish I was

544
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: further along, that wish that I chose career.

545
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: A little bit more over fun.

546
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: You know, you know, I look at my sister, my brother,

547
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, you you have Blake, But you guys are

548
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: so far apart, and of course you're very six, you know,

549
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: Happer for her career.

550
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: As I am with my siblings.

551
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: But there's always a part of me that's just like, fuck, man,

552
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: why can't I do that?

553
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 2: Why can't I?

554
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: I want to do a role like that. I want

555
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: to work with people like that. I I want to

556
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: I want to make that kind of money. I don't

557
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: want to be hustling for everything, you know, right, Not

558
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: not that it takes away from how I feel about

559
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: them and my love for them and.

560
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: My gratitude and and how happy I'm.

561
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: For the success, but I I fuck, I'm I'm not

562
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: afraid to admit that I have envy.

563
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: It's just damn yeah, oh you know, yeah it's there.

564
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally understand that for sure. But that hustle

565
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: is real, Like my sister's life is. It's a lot,

566
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot of work to maintain that,

567
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, it really is. And she really was, like

568
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: of all of us, she was the most unexpected one

569
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: to hit that kind of fame because she's so shy.

570
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: She was very shy, and so it just happened, like

571
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: it just happened, and not believe it, no, no, but

572
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: she and I are like, she's my best friend, you know,

573
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: we are so close.

574
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I look at my sister too, and

575
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I don't want to have give me.

576
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: I'll take your money, Kate, but I don't want to

577
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: have that kind of fame necessary that is.

578
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: It is. And I don't know what your sisters, your

579
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: sister's lighted like, but like I look at my sister

580
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: and she's a mama bear, you know, like that is.

581
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: There is nothing more important to both of them than

582
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: their family. Their family comes first, and they managed to

583
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: really like balance it. Well, It's just it's a totally

584
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: different life. It's a totally different world, you know. Yeah,

585
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: And I do think like I don't know if I

586
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: can handle it. I really don't. But do I have

587
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: those same feelings like oh, oh she's getting to work

588
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: with SO and so. Oh that's so amazing. But honestly,

589
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: I am so proud of her. You know, everything that

590
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: she's gotten and that she has she's earned. So there's

591
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: not that I don't have that piece where I'm envious

592
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: and wishing it were me in a sense that in

593
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: a healthy way, you know, like I do like, oh

594
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: I would die to work with so and so. You

595
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: know that I do because you know, I've been in

596
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: this industry for so long and I've worked with some

597
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: people that have been amazing, and I'm like, oh gosh,

598
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: what would it be like to work with someone like that,

599
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, like really work with something like that, because

600
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I do independence too, And sometimes

601
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: I go back to my trailer and I'm like, oh,

602
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: this is horrible when you do those low budget indies

603
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: where people just are clueless. Yeah, I just want to

604
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: kill yourself. You're like, what am I doing? I've been

605
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: in this industry for how long? Why am I doing this?

606
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god? I did this independent movie. It was

607
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: a long time ago, but like it was called The Smokers,

608
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: And we were in Kenosha, Wisconsin. And I get to

609
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: set and the makeup person is there and she is

610
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: not trained in standard makeups. She's an effects makeup person, right,

611
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: And I'm sure the budget on this movie is like

612
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: three and a half dollars And I'm like, okay, So

613
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: we have no trailers. So they're doing the makeup outside

614
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: and you know, I'm talking with my friends and doing

615
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: doing the makeup. She's like, all right, all done. I'm like, okay, cool.

616
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: I'm cruising around.

617
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: No I haven't I haven't shot yet.

618
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I go pee and I go pee

619
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: and I look in the mirror to wash my hands,

620
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 3: and it's I have like I look like a mime.

621
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: It's white.

622
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, it's white, white, white, like clown white.

623
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:36,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck is no? I mean it was.

624
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: I started laughing in the mirror because it was so

625
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: insane that I was like hysterically laughing. So I just

626
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: washed my face off and then I said, you know what,

627
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: I'm good. I don't need makeup anymore on the show.

628
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: We're fine. I'm twenty two years old or twenty three, Like,

629
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: my skin is.

630
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: Fine, Like, let's just skip this process.

631
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, that is the worst thing I've ever heard.

632
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: But I can totally relate. My husband. We did another movie.

633
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: We did a movie together at one point. Again it

634
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: was like this one was didn't have a great budget,

635
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: and the same thing. He came out and I said,

636
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: what is happening. Don't let them do that to your face? Right,

637
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: Like what the heuse it? No, I'm like, wipe it off.

638
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: You don't need your face is like white. Yeah, it's horrible.

639
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: It's horrible. But he wouldn't have known, you know, you know,

640
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: he's just like, okay, cool.

641
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: A by the way, how awesome are those experiences as well?

642
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 5: So they're amazing.

643
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: Ye.

644
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: I look at Kate and I look at Wyatt and

645
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 3: you know, and again all this to say that I

646
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: I am so grateful for my career.

647
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: I've had an awesome career. You know, there's no time

648
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: about it. But you know, you look at them and

649
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: they work with us like cool creative people where you

650
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: can dig into shit.

651
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 3: I looked pretty much broadcast TV, where it's like bang,

652
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: bang bang. You get two takes and if you ask

653
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: for a third, like you know, it's just like, oh shit, okay,

654
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: changed the die, Like it's just bang. And then I

655
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: talked to Kate and why were they almost famous as

656
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 3: band practice? And then why it is rehearsing for three

657
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: weeks for this movie?

658
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: Can you imagine rehearsing for three weeks?

659
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: No, oh my god, I'd probably win Emmys and Academy Awards.

660
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 2: Totally. I'm like, I'm just like showing up on set

661
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: with a script that had just changed three hours ago.

662
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, here we go.

663
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 4: Ye.

664
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: But looking back at all those independent movies too, I

665
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: had so much fun. I mean as a young kid.

666
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, strange movies and Kenosha, Wisconsin and all over the

667
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: country and these weird ass places.

668
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I had such a blast every.

669
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: Every they are, even the bad ones, like you're saying,

670
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: even the bad ones. I'm going to tell you this

671
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: one other one, another independent I did where I'm not

672
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: kidding the first a D. It was when we had

673
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: women were it was just primarily the whole crew. It

674
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: was just a crew full of women, and she was

675
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: our first a D. Didn't have a clue what she

676
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: was doing. And my girl literally sat herself basically in

677
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: the scene with us, sat down on an apple box

678
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: so she could watch the show her snacks. And I

679
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: was like, you know, you guys, do we not know

680
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: just not you know, literally sat on an apple box

681
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: and just eating her snacks, watch just watching the show.

682
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 2: She's enjoying it.

683
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: But those you just gotta laugh.

684
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, oh for sure, for sure.

685
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: But and so so you know that, uh so Ryan.

686
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: I met Ryan a long long time ago. I wrote

687
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: a script called Stardom Dumb and this is before he

688
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: was anything.

689
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: And then he, you know, was going to do it,

690
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: and we didn't.

691
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: We didn't end up even making the movie. And then

692
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 3: my wife actually dated him for like six months.

693
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: She did.

694
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, her name at the time, HER's Aaron, husband was

695
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: Aaron Bartlett Bartlett and uh yes, said he's the greatest

696
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: person in the world.

697
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: I fucking loved him.

698
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: I just saw him actually speaking engagement and but he

699
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: is someone who I would try to emulate, honestly. Yes,

700
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: I just love his soul and his heart and his

701
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: humor and his intellect of this business.

702
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: And he's got such a unique tone. You know. Ryan

703
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: is definitely someone to sort of like look up to.

704
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 5: And he seems like an amazing father, you know, amazing Yeah,

705
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 5: and husband, husband, and their relationship is amazing, so cute,

706
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

707
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: They're good to each other.

708
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 3: They yeah, they're real like example, yeah for sure, yep,

709
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 3: ye for sure.

710
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah he is. He is all of those things and

711
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: then some for sure. And that dude works hard, oh my,

712
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: and and prioritizes his family. You love everything, you know.

713
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: Else, which I think you have to do.

714
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's easy to screw up your children in

715
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: this kind of a business.

716
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it, you.

717
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: Know, right. Yeah, that's what he's been really smart.

718
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, for sure.

719
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's a good dude, a good dude. It's been

720
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: really cool to see going from like Green Lantern to

721
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: now has been unbelievable to see, like how his career

722
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: and all of it. He's just so smart.

723
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has.

724
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: Everything that he's doing so smart.

725
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: He's a branding genius too, Yeah he is. Yeah.

726
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: Did you ever do you and your husband ever get

727
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 3: jealous that you're both you're both actors and whether you

728
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: have scenes and you know, is there any sort of

729
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: hesitancere or jealousy when it comes to all that.

730
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: Like with the two of us.

731
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, meaning like you have a love interest on

732
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: a show, or he's got to do this, or is

733
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: it you know, Oh.

734
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: You know you're going to think I'm just making all

735
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: this up, like it hasn't really been a thing. Like

736
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: we haven't had which is so bizarre, Like you would

737
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: think that we would be faced with that kind of stuff.

738
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: That all of those kinds of things happened in my twenties,

739
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: so I mean it could still happen, but we haven't

740
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: really been faced with anything like that yet. But you know,

741
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: we've got twenty five years under our belt now.

742
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: Though of marriage.

743
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: Yes, Wow, but I can't imagine twenty five in September.

744
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: But I can't. I wouldn't. I don't think I would

745
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: love it, you know, right, I love it?

746
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 5: Right?

747
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: Are you in La now?

748
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: Yeah? In La?

749
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: I want to get out of here. I mean I'm

750
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: in the desert right now, but kind of over La.

751
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: Everybody is. I think we're going to We're going to

752
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: peace out too, are you really well? I mean there's

753
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,959
Speaker 1: no point like there's there are no in person auditions anymore, so.

754
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 3: Exactly, and the babies are gone, so this is what's

755
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: allowing you the opportunity to leave.

756
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 2: So yeah, my kids are so ingrained. They have their

757
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: friends and.

758
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: I could never do that now, not yet, you can't.

759
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: I know. Do you still keep in touch with Woody

760
00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: at all?

761
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: Or no? I wish he Woody was When I think

762
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: back on that film, the people that I was the

763
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: closest to it was Woody. He's friends with Nick. Oh

764
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: my god, but really it was Woody.

765
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: It was awesome.

766
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: Nick was great, but it was really Wooty was my buddy. Yeah,

767
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: he was my bud. And then no, I don't. I

768
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: haven't seen him. I could. I don't even remember. Last

769
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: for my Tom how old?

770
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: How old? Were you in that movie thirteen thirteen? His brother?

771
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: Do you remember his brother? He would always bring his

772
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: brother on set.

773
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: No, oh really, yeah.

774
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was really close with his brother. His name

775
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: was like Bret or Brent or something like that.

776
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 3: Thirty So I was seven eight. Wow, crazy, And this

777
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: is the first time that we've seen him talk to

778
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: each other literally since then.

779
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. I really can't believe it. That

780
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: movie was so so much fun, that was such a

781
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: I took it for granted. I didn't know, you know,

782
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: I was young, and just like, oh god, I got

783
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: a movie, and yeah, you know, I have no idea.

784
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: Just used to working, and I mean to this day,

785
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: I there's not even the bad ones. I'm like, it's

786
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: such a gift to still do what I love, to

787
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: be able to still do what I love and like

788
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: never had a regular job, Like that's unbelievable.

789
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah lucky.

790
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: I love what I do, like I love every every

791
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: bit of it. I just love it. I can't imagine

792
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: ever doing something.

793
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: Well, you won't. You've got you have like eighty jobs

794
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: right now. Okay, so not only now, not only am

795
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: I envious with my sister and my brother, but now you.

796
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: I need a goddamn job. So you know, yeah, Robin

797
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 3: talked to some people. I will talk to some people.

798
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,959
Speaker 1: Me up, I'm going to.

799
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: All right, Well, it was good talking to you. It's

800
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: really fun. I appreciate you fun.

801
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so happy when I got the calls.

802
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I know, I know.

803
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: I talked to Mom too. She's here in the desert

804
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: with me.

805
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, I'm talking to Rob and

806
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 3: she's like, holy sh you to.

807
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: Tell her I still have let her know. She gave

808
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: me a little gold whistle, a little and I still

809
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: have it. But she was just the youngiest.

810
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the best, you know, the best. Well, good

811
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: luck with everything, you know what, Maybe now one day

812
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: we'll work together.

813
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: I have a weird feeling.

814
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

815
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: Feeling. Yeah, and then you'll get.

816
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 3: To see what an incredible actor I actually am.

817
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: And then I'm going to go away. Way more talented

818
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: than them. They just got lucky. Okay, they just got lucky.

819
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: I've got way more talent than Kate, Mom, Kurt, everyone combined.

820
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: They're just luckier. That's the way I deal with my pain.

821
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: I really hope that we do wouldn't that becoming fun.

822
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: Let's make it happen.

823
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: We will to do it, will manifest it, as they

824
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: say these days, let's.

825
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: Do it all over. Well, you have grown up. You

826
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: were so cute, you were dull then I didn't have

827
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: a crush on you then just because you're way too young.

828
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: But that's okay. There's still time. There's still time.

829
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: I was so gad to talk to you.