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Speaker 2: Welcome in. Welcome In. It's the Late Round Fantasy Football Show,

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Speaker 2: live from Radio Row.

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Speaker 3: Here at the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Jju and I both survived and we are here right now.

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Speaker 1: Barely got a foot of snow in Charlotte. Literally literally

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Speaker 1: you know that. I said that we got a foot

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Speaker 1: of snow on Twitter. Yeah, and someone responded and they asked,

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Speaker 3: As if I'm lying?

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Speaker 1: We got to photous know, but fortunately I was able

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I made it out here. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: Now, I know, but we're going to power through. We've

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Speaker 2: got a fun show today. We'll also be here tomorrow

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Speaker 2: lots of good stuff coming in the newsletter. But if

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Speaker 2: you missed it, the pre order for the Prospect Guide

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Speaker 2: now available. So all your rookies, all your year two

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Speaker 2: players and JJ this year, we have something new we do.

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Speaker 3: We are doing tight end profiles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and not just the scores, because the scores have

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Speaker 1: been there in the past. The other thing too is

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not been bad or anything, but it

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Speaker 1: And so I'm working with grand and Goadula to make

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Speaker 1: going to be writing a lot of those profiles.

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Speaker 3: For tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Obviously I'm going to obviously be working with him on

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Speaker 2: But he's not gone rogue on tight ends.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not ignoring the position I just need help because

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of pages in that prospect guide. I

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Speaker 1: mean usually we're looking at like one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: to get the running back profiles, the wide receiver profiles,

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Speaker 1: the tight end profiles, and then the year two stuff

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Speaker 2: I mean listen, when you're invited by the fine folks

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Speaker 2: All right, JJ, we've got today's news. First of all.

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Speaker 2: and most of the news right now is is centered

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Speaker 1: Their expected points added per play was point one point nine. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So essentially, what I'm getting at is, every single year

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Speaker 2: Well, here is a good thing in Pittsburgh, and that

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Speaker 1: Would you guys rather have me go and enjoy a

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Speaker 1: You are my fantasy analyst. I don't care how good

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, there's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And we'll be talking about these games and we'll

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Speaker 1: Okay, so first off, they're over three point underdogs for

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Speaker 1: just the second time this year, which kind of crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's made a really big deal about the schedule, and.

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Speaker 1: Here I am once again making a big deal in

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Speaker 1: the schedule. But I've been on records saying that you

447
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Speaker 1: can still see how good a team is based on

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Speaker 1: how they perform against bad teams too, And New England's

449
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Speaker 1: had a great point differential, et cetera, et cetera. Like

450
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Speaker 1: they've done what they needed to do and more, and

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Speaker 1: analytics agree that they're a good team. Like, I think

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Speaker 1: New England representing the AFC is totally fine during a

453
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Speaker 1: year where there are weaker AFC teams, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I just want to get that out of the way.

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Speaker 1: But they are over three point underdogs versus the second

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Speaker 1: time this year. You know, if you look at overall

457
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Speaker 1: pass rate for New England, that's not going to be

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Speaker 1: super super helpful because they've been favored in a lot

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Speaker 1: of games they played weaker opponents. Obviously, when that's the case,

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Speaker 1: game script is in their favor, they're going to.

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Speaker 3: Run the ball a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: But Kitchen, they ranked top five in the NFL this

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Speaker 1: year and pass right over expected. They saw over three

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Speaker 1: more pass temps per game in games where they were

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Speaker 1: underdogs this year, So I do expect them to have

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Speaker 1: a more pass heavy approach. That's not just because of

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Speaker 1: the way games script might go in the fact that

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Speaker 1: they're underdogs here, but Seattle has by far the best

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Speaker 1: EPA per rush defense in the NFL. They've been the

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Speaker 1: best at stopping the run across the league. They're their

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Speaker 1: top and rushing yards over expected per attempt allowed. They've

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Speaker 1: been so good in the front at stopping these opposing

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Speaker 1: running backs. And if you look at this on a

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Speaker 1: game by game basis, only Washington in Week nine had

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Speaker 1: a greater than fifty percent success rate on the ground

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Speaker 1: against Seattle, which is bonkers. Only five teams finished with

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Speaker 1: a positive rushing yards over expected against Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Only one team finished with a positive EPA per rush

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Speaker 3: against them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy, it's crazy how good the Seattle

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Speaker 1: defense has been against the run. So what that means is,

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Speaker 1: so Seattle, they do have a good pass defense, they're

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Speaker 1: they're the eighth best pass defense by EPA per drop

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Speaker 1: back loud, but they're just so good against the run.

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Speaker 1: When you combine that with New England potentially trailing Slash

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Speaker 1: being in this kind of game script and the fact

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Speaker 1: that they have a high pass rate over expected. To

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Speaker 1: begin with pass rate over expected for those you know,

489
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Speaker 1: because we throw this around all the time. Password over

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Speaker 1: expected is looking at gamescript situations and seeing is this

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Speaker 1: team more pass heavy than than a team typically would

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Speaker 1: be in this situation? Right, So New England is more

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Speaker 1: pass heavy, you know, in these situations than other teams

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Speaker 1: typically would be.

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Speaker 3: So this is what I think could happen.

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Speaker 1: Drake may might just scramble a lot in this game

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Speaker 1: because there's gonna be more dropbacks. That means that there's

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Speaker 1: more opportunities for scrambles and Seattle they also generate pressures

499
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Speaker 1: at the fourth highest rate in the league, despite blitzing

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Speaker 1: at the fourth lowest rate. So what that means is

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Speaker 1: they're getting pressure on the quarterback without having to send

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys, which means they have enough players

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Speaker 1: in coverage where it's going to be more difficult in

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Speaker 1: the quarterback to find the open receiver. What happens then

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks scramble, and that's what's happened against Seattle all year.

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Speaker 1: Seattle's face the most quarterback scrambles of any team in

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Speaker 1: football this year. So New England there's sixth in pressure

508
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Speaker 1: rate alowed, but only and only Geno Smith, Tyler Shuck

509
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Speaker 1: and Cam mood So two rookie quarterbacks, and Geno Smith,

510
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Speaker 1: who had the worst season of you know in a

511
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Speaker 1: while for for Gino Smith, uh with Vegas. Only those

512
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Speaker 1: three quarterbacks were worse in pressure to sack rate than

513
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Speaker 1: Drake May this year. So my fear is that Seattle's

514
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Speaker 1: going to be able to get to Drake May and

515
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Speaker 1: beat that offensive line. Drake May then obviously, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen that in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Drake May is going to have to do

518
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Speaker 1: something under pressure, and it's not gonna be the easiest

519
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Speaker 1: thing in the world to find that open receiver. So

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Speaker 1: he's gonna scramble. That's what he's done, you know, throughout

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Speaker 1: the season. So I think that there's a chance that

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Speaker 1: he sees a lot of rushing yards in this game

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Speaker 1: and a lot of scrambles. But there's also a chance

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Speaker 1: that he's still sacked a lot in this game. Right,

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Speaker 1: So if you're looking at at betting lines and such,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is not a betting podcast or not.

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Speaker 3: I don't get line advice.

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Speaker 1: That's just not you know, not what I do, But

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Speaker 1: I do think that this is a situation where I

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Speaker 1: think the line was like three and a half seven Seattle.

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Speaker 3: I would take the over.

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Speaker 1: They've the Patriots have faced four top ten teams in

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Speaker 1: pressure rate this year. Three of those four teams sacked

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Speaker 1: Drake May four more times. So that's that's the over

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Speaker 1: right in that in that kind of situation. So I'm

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Speaker 1: expecting May to get sacked at least four times in

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Speaker 1: this game, but also expecting him to maybe run the

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Speaker 1: ball a lot and potentially, I say potentially is like

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Speaker 1: a long shot actually lead the Patriots and rushing yards

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Speaker 1: in this game because Seattle is so good at stopping

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Speaker 1: the run just naturally and Ramandre Stevenson. I think, I

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Speaker 1: think there's a chance that Drake May out rushes reminds

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Speaker 1: as what this is, Okay, I say a chance.

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Speaker 3: I don't mean like a fifty to fifty chance.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I'm not gonna say, but if the odds

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Speaker 1: are good enough, you know, if you want to bet

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Speaker 1: on that, whatever it's I'm not I'm not going down

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Speaker 1: that path. I'm just giving you guys what I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: from from a spreadsheet perspective. The other thing that I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna do is. I think New England's gonna

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Speaker 1: throw a lot more underneath. Drake May was arguably the

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Speaker 1: best deep ball passer in the NFL this past year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but he might not have as much time.

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Speaker 1: For those plays to developed because of the pressure rate

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Speaker 1: and what and the kind of pressure that Seattle can

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Speaker 1: put on him. And Seattle was top five and two

557
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Speaker 1: high safety rate this past year, So Seattle's not They're

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Speaker 1: they're better at preventing those bigger plays and that's obviously

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Speaker 1: something that Drake May has really thrived on.

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Speaker 3: And this is from Brandon Goadula of Late Round.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was doing a little bit of research for

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Speaker 1: this and it was really really good and interesting stat

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Speaker 1: But in games where teams showed specific safety tendencies, here's

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Speaker 1: Drake May's adjusted net yards per temporrates. Okay, so single

565
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Speaker 1: high when when teams generally showed single high the majority

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Speaker 1: of the time, he had an eight point five to

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Speaker 1: two adjusted net yards per tenpary. In a more balanced

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Speaker 1: situation where it was kind of both too and single

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Speaker 1: seven point seven to three adjusted net yards pert tempt

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Speaker 1: when he's faced too high six point zero seven three

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Speaker 1: games where he's faced the majority of the defense had

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Speaker 1: two high safeties.

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Speaker 3: I think that we're gonna.

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Speaker 1: See fewer deep ball passes. He's gonna take his shots

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Speaker 1: because that's what he does. He's a pretty aggressive thrower,

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Speaker 1: and he's unbelievable at getting the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: But I think we're going to see a little bit

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Speaker 1: more of a conservative approach through the air from Drake

579
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Speaker 1: may in this game. Not just because he's a young

580
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the Super Bowl, and that's a big deal inherently,

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Speaker 1: but the other side of.

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Speaker 3: This is just that I think the matchup dictates this.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at what Seattle does defensively, they

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Speaker 1: were thirty first and adjusted target share allowed to wide

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Speaker 1: receivers this year, which means when teams face Seattle, they

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Speaker 1: weren't throwing to the wide receivers at a very high rate,

587
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Speaker 1: second lowest rate in all football. But Seattle ranked first

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Speaker 1: and adjusted running back target share allowed, and they were

589
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Speaker 1: fifteenth and adjusted tight end target share allowed eleventh and

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Speaker 1: slot wide receiver target share allowed.

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Speaker 3: So what does that tell you?

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Speaker 1: Teams are throwing to their running backs so behind the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage or close to the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: Middle of the field slot receivers, middle of the field

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Speaker 1: tight ends, and Seattle faced the highest percentage of targets

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Speaker 1: actually in the NFL behind the.

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Speaker 3: Line of scrimmage this season.

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Speaker 1: So I would look for New England if we're looking

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Speaker 1: at this matchup. Okay, I'm not saying that like this

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Speaker 1: is definitely because maybe they don't like this matchup or

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Speaker 1: maybe I mean, I'm clearly could be looking at this

602
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Speaker 1: wrong too, because.

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Speaker 3: I get plenty of stuff wrong.

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Speaker 1: But I would look for New England to use their

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Speaker 1: running backs a lot of receivers in this game. I

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Speaker 1: would I would look at them to use Stefan Diggs

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Speaker 1: out of a slot. I would not be shocked if

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Speaker 1: Diggs sees one of the highest route participation rates of

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Speaker 1: his season, because you know, we tilted about this during

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Speaker 1: the fantasy season. How Diggs would see, you know, a

611
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Speaker 1: seventy five percent routes share, and then a fifty percent

612
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Speaker 1: routes share, and then an eighty percent rout chair. He

613
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Speaker 1: was all over the place. I think this could be

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Speaker 1: a Stephan Diggs game. Like, I think that he could.

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Speaker 3: See a lot of looks out of the slot, and.

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Speaker 1: Just in general inherently, you know, closer to the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage and being that reliable target for Drake May

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Speaker 1: and then Hunter Henry in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: I think is a really really intriguing player to watch

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Speaker 1: because Seattle's.

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Speaker 3: Been kind of okay against tight.

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Speaker 1: Ends this year, not tacular, and that's something that the

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Speaker 1: Patriots can do to kind of combat and beat this defense.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I would look at those three being

625
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Speaker 1: Steph Hundiggs in the passing game, Steph Hundiggs, Hunter Henry,

626
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Speaker 1: and then I guess you have to say Ramondre Stevens

627
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Speaker 1: because Travon Henderson played four snaps in the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 1: Now do I think that New England would be smart

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Speaker 1: to And this is not a bye. I've taken the

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Speaker 1: l with Ramandre. He dominated the final month of the season.

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Speaker 1: He made me look like a moron. I get all that,

632
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Speaker 1: But I do think that this could like the hypothetical

633
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Speaker 1: Traveon Henderson right, It.

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Speaker 2: Would be funny too if this was the week that

635
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Speaker 2: he went off after we discounted him after last week,

636
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Speaker 2: because that's kind of the story of the season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like I do think that Ramondre is

639
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Speaker 1: more than capable, but Treyvon Henderson objectively has more burst

640
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Speaker 1: and can career and generate big, bigger plays.

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Speaker 3: Ramondre is a much more complete back right now.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying that Travion, you get him in space

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Speaker 1: and you allow for.

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Speaker 3: Some of that to work and happen.

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Speaker 1: I think it can beat it can win against this

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Speaker 1: defense in the way that Seattle plays.

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Speaker 3: So you know, will they do that?

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Speaker 1: I don't think that we can, like confidently if we

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Speaker 1: had like one, like if we had two games of

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Speaker 1: New England against Seattle and we could just see the

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Speaker 1: snap rates for Ramandre Stevenson and Travion, then I could

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Speaker 1: more confidently say this is the way that you know

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Speaker 1: we're gonna fel about Trayvon Henderson. I think the matchup

654
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Speaker 1: is there though, for receiving back to do some and

655
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Speaker 1: and do some damage against the Seattle defense, just based

656
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Speaker 1: on the fact that they were not great.

657
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 3: Limiting underneath throws.

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Speaker 1: And that's probably the way that this offense is going

659
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Speaker 1: to need to beat them because that pressure is going

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Speaker 1: to be in Drake May's face all game long more

661
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: than likely.

662
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Speaker 3: So key takeaways. Key takeaways. Okay, I know I just

663
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: just spewed out a lot. All right, all right, I've.

664
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Speaker 1: Been yeah, putting, like gathering data for like a week

665
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: and a half now, and I just kind of threw

666
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: it all out.

667
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: There, just multiple times.

668
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: Even yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my gosh, you guys. We're

669
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: gonna talk about Seattle tomorrow. I had to redo the

670
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: Seattle stuff on the plane on the way here because

671
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: I had some tech issues, which was really fun. But yeah,

672
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: key takeaways for New England in the offense right pass

673
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: heavy approach. Seattle is very very good at stopping the run,

674
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: the best in the league at doing so, and New

675
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: England is a top five team, and pass right over

676
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: expected given the spread, given the game, the probable game

677
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: script here, I would be shocked if New England is

678
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: not pass heavy in this game against Seattle. But then

679
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: when they're pass heavy, I'm expecting more underneath throws, lower

680
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: ad Dot throws to the backs. So Ramandre Stevenson, Treveon

681
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: Henderson the slot. I think they're gonna throw Stephan Diggs

682
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: in there a lot like this is not to me

683
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: much of a Kishan Boudi kind of game.

684
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: This is more of a Stephan Diggs game.

685
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: And then the tight end, so Hunter Henry obviously being

686
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: to go to maybe your boy Austin Hooper will get

687
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 1: some some love or something or some random tight end

688
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: like that.

689
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

690
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: But then but then Drake May, you know, I think

691
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: the final takeaway, he's gonna be pressured, he's gonna be sacked.

692
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: It's it's you know, sets up that way for sure.

693
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: I Mean, look in these games too, teams have to execute,

694
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, like like we could. I think we're gonna

695
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: know pretty quickly in the first couple drives if New

696
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: England's offensive line is gonna be able to hold up

697
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: and be able to stop the pressure that Seattle's going

698
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: to be bringing on that front, because Seattle's obviously, like

699
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: I said, they're not They're not doing it through the

700
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: blitz very frequently, and so we're gonna know pretty early on.

701
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, like New England could just like

702
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: play well that's all.

703
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, but what I would expect is a fairly

704
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: heavy pressured game for Drake May.

705
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be sacked, but I think he's gonna.

706
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: Scramble a lot, So we could see a lot of

707
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: rushing yards and a decent amount of rushing attempts.

708
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: You know, this is also like it's the Super Bowl.

709
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: There's always been this like sort of like, I mean,

710
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: people have done research on this too, but just this

711
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: is like general rule that quarterbacks throw their bodies around

712
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: more whenever the games are on the line. We see

713
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: this with Patrick Mahomes when he's in the playoffs. Every

714
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: single year, his rushing numbers go up because this is

715
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: it like if he throws his body around and gets hurt, well,

716
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: that's that's this the last game of the year. So

717
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: they probably are are more than okay doing that, trying

718
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl because these football players are

719
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: built differently.

720
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: All Right, So let's say that let's say that Patriots

721
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: play well, yeah, let's say that they win. Okay, but

722
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,239
Speaker 2: let's say that you have to pick an MVP not

723
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: named Drake May. That's a little bit under the radar,

724
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: a little bit of a sneaky play.

725
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I think you could go.

726
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: Look, I've mentioned the running backs are interesting, but I

727
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to go running back here because

728
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: the run game is not going to be solid enough

729
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: because Seattle can start to run so well. So then

730
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: you look at the receivers, you could go digs. I'm

731
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: going to lean more towards Hunter Henry. I think Hunter

732
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: Henry could be an X factor in this game.

733
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: Uh, you know there's.

734
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: A matchup to exploit. So yeah, I'm gonna say my

735
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: sneaky MVP for the Patriots is Hunter Henry.

736
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 4: There you go.

737
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: I mean they sneaky play again. This is not this

738
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: is not a a betting show, So don't you know

739
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: lock it in.

740
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: But if you I mean, if you did, it's a

741
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: super Bowl and people are listening to whether the podcast, theater,

742
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: on YouTube, whatever. Yeah, like it's a super Bowl, like

743
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: you can have some fun and entertain yourselves with like

744
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: some ren and if it's like I just know that

745
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm not a betting expert.

746
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: That's I'm a fantasy football yeah analyst.

747
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

748
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: I like the sneaky play though.

749
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: And another speaking of sneaky plays, another sneaky play that

750
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: has presented himself many times over the course of his

751
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 2: career just due to his position is coming up.

752
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: Next.

753
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: We've got Josh Johnson talking with us here on the

754
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: Late Round Show. All right, we are live with maybe

755
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: one of the mascots for the Late Round QB. It

756
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: is Josh Johnson. Josh last year with the Washington Commanders

757
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: and Josh you have been on a few teams in

758
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: your lifetime a lot. Yeah, And we were just talking

759
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: before before we went live, just about how how you

760
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: keep your body Like your body is an investment basically

761
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: for sure.

762
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like the body is everything because it's

763
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 5: like I think the best way I can put it

764
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 5: into an example, it's.

765
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: Like a car, you know what I mean.

766
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 5: You know, the great cars are great with the age,

767
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 5: and if you don't take you can keep a car

768
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 5: from like we into the twenty twenty six. A car

769
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 5: from the seventies can work really well right now if

770
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 5: you take care of it every day. Yeah, And I

771
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 5: think that's the way the body is. You know, it's

772
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 5: the engine that needs fuel and it also needs proper

773
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: you know, it needs your WD four. You know, you

774
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 5: got to really keep the joints warmed up and stretching

775
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 5: is important. So that's probably the most thing, the most

776
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 5: I spend time.

777
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: On right now is make sure my body is proper.

778
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Let's let's let me ask you about the position that

779
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: you play, right because obviously the biggest position in the game.

780
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: What do you think an average fan just doesn't understand

781
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: about what you do.

782
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 5: They think we just come up. They just think we

783
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 5: show up in practice and go home. They think our

784
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 5: life is We think it's like high school. Oh you

785
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 5: got three hour practice and you do nothing else. My

786
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 5: days are in season or literally from six thirty until

787
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 5: I fall asleep.

788
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: Literally, like I'm in a building six thirty.

789
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 5: We have a walk through at six thirty, and then

790
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 5: you go your first official.

791
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 4: Meeting is at eight o'clock.

792
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 5: And know, everything prior to aid is optional, but you know,

793
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 5: as a quarterback, you gotta do these things to be prepared.

794
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: And so I walk out of the building.

795
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 5: Maybe six thirty seven every day, and then I go

796
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 5: home and watch film because I'd rather watch film on

797
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: an opponent in my living room because it's kind of

798
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 5: like my sanctuary versus just being in the building and

799
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 5: watching film because I feel like I've been in the

800
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 5: building all day, and literally sometimes I may fall asleep

801
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 5: eleven thirty twelve and then getting up and doing again

802
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 5: the next day.

803
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like.

804
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: Your positioning and you being having been a backup for

805
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: a while now, like what's the toughest thing that you

806
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: have to kind of mentally prepare for and physically knowing

807
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: that in any given moment this year, right this past year,

808
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: any given moment you step in, you're is it the

809
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: preparation you think that later you can't look because it's

810
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: like we see a lot of these backup quarterbacks go

811
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: in and out right like like they'll be a backup

812
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: for three years in the league and then they're done.

813
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: But you've been around for so long and there's got

814
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: to be some secret sauce there.

815
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 5: I think the sauce for me is literally like holding

816
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 5: myself to a standard that like it kind of is

817
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 5: borderline crazy.

818
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 4: You gotta be a little bit crazy. You gotta be

819
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 4: a little.

820
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 5: Crazy because you gotta you gotta trick your mind to

821
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 5: show up every day mentally like you're gonna play yeah,

822
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 5: because and I think for me it was those moments

823
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 5: when I did get to play, it really showed me

824
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 5: like like all right, it's like wow, Like bro, you're

825
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 5: gonna get in here and everything's gonna be moving really fast.

826
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 4: You're not gonna really understand what they're gonna do.

827
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 5: So you gotta you gotta be so prepared to where

828
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 5: you can slow your mind down. You want your mind

829
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 5: to really try to be slow so you can actually

830
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 5: just breathe and just play a game because once, like

831
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 5: typically I after the first two or three series, it

832
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 5: becomes football. But those two or three series you first

833
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 5: come in, it's so important because everybody looking like what

834
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 5: is he gonna do?

835
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 4: What's gonna happen? It's going to happen. And if you're

836
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 4: going in the fourth quarter, now you got to make

837
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 4: something happen.

838
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 5: So for me, I'm trying to come in there and

839
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 5: literally bring a com to myself first so I can

840
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 5: be normal as possible, even though I know it's not

841
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 5: going to be normal, and then be able to just

842
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 5: make sure that everybody around me can say, all right,

843
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 5: let's go play.

844
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: He got it. Yeah, that's literally all I'm focused on.

845
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's free mentality. Yeah, it's gotta be

846
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: Do you do you meditate it all?

847
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 4: I meditate every day? Take you to the comapp?

848
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: Does that?

849
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 5: Does that?

850
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 4: Is that?

851
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 3: Do you think that's like a huge for sure?

852
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 5: Like it was funny because my cousin Marshaan, you know Marshan, Ye,

853
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 5: like when he was at he's at the height of

854
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 5: his career. I used to always asking my cous like,

855
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 5: how do you like run through that? How do you

856
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 5: run through the sea gap and don't blink? He's like, cause,

857
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 5: I just breathe. He's like, I take a deep breath

858
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 5: before every play, and I literally just it centers me

859
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 5: to do my job and then react. And literally when

860
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 5: I when he said that, I just pursued it and

861
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 5: then it you know, I was like, Okay, I found

862
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 5: the comap. I meditated every day, do my tea minutes

863
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 5: and I understand that. I understand like the zen state

864
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 5: I need to be in. Once I reached that. Once

865
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 5: I reached that state, I'm like, I'm good, let's go

866
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 5: do that.

867
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: Marshawn Lynch, your cousin. I want to know, did y'all

868
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: have a race?

869
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

870
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 4: He beat me when we was little, but I beat

871
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 4: him when we got older.

872
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: I mean he does not. He's got a little bit

873
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: more bulk to him.

874
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: Now, don't tell him then.

875
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in a four or five three. I mean

876
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: that's pretty good. My question is is this four or

877
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: five three that was that was a little bit ago, right,

878
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: so you know we're on as a quarterback there that's

879
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: blazing right exactly. So here's my question though, because now

880
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: you see everybody kind.

881
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: Of fine tuning themselves.

882
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: You know it's a game. You know they are gamifying

883
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: the numbers. You think you could run faster than a

884
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: four or five three if you kind of knew what

885
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: you know now, then.

886
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 5: For sure, I feel like, like just the technique of

887
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 5: getting off and it's understanding the drive face for the

888
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 5: first two yards. Like the worst thing about me when

889
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 5: I was coming out, I did not I had a

890
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 5: horrible get off, Like I did not know how to

891
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: I didn't know how to start a race. I knew

892
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 5: I can make up because I had a long stride

893
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 5: and I had long legs, But literally, like right now,

894
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 5: my get off will people probably be a lot better

895
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 5: because I've heard the coaching points for eighteen years, Like

896
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 5: I've hear our coaches and I literally they don't think

897
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 5: I'll be paying attention, but I literally listen to what

898
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 5: they be saying.

899
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: I'm okay, that makes a lot of sense.

900
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 5: And so I think now I don't know if my

901
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 5: back end would be the same, yeah, but my first

902
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 5: team would be faster.

903
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: So you you mentioned obviously been around the league for

904
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: a really long time, but you've also seen evolutions of

905
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: the league, like when you first entered, a lot of

906
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: like I mean, you had you had a lot of

907
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: like like fullbacks out back there with you.

908
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: You had a bunch of like two running back sets,

909
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: and then like the McVeigh era kind of happens.

910
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: You get a lot more eleven personnel, You get a

911
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: lot of these these spread offenses. But recently we're seeing

912
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: more of the heavy personnel.

913
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: Come coming back.

914
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, this coming is that?

915
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: Is that something that like you're consciously thinking about and

916
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: see like it is it league wide? Like does everyone

917
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: just like know that this is coming and happening, because

918
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: it's it's my from from my I'll say amateurized, but

919
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: like from my perspective, a lot of it is just

920
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: the reaction to what defenses are, how defense are now built?

921
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: Right for sure, they're they're they're thinner and faster and

922
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff.

923
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 4: I think you hit it right on the now.

924
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 5: First off, I think this is a product where we're

925
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 5: seeing the game trans form back to the old ways

926
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 5: because the pass rushers are just like ridiculous, Like they

927
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 5: literally are two hundred and ninety pounds running walked by here.

928
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 4: It's like the biggest human man.

929
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, how couldn't any human being exactly.

930
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: And they can't.

931
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 5: They just they just try to shield them, you know

932
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 5: what I mean. And you got to you gotta deal

933
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 5: with those guys. And then he just one guy. Then

934
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 5: you got TJ. On the other side, you got high Smith,

935
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 5: then you got Herbert like and they literally sending five

936
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 5: guys who really just want to get sexs because that's

937
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 5: how they get paid. So so like seeing the game

938
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 5: like go from under center when I first came in

939
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 5: the league, because that's how I didn't. I never threw

940
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 5: a quick game. I never threw a slam route in

941
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 5: the gun until I got to the NFL.

942
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 4: I didn't in college. We didn't do that.

943
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 5: We took three steps and we threw a slam route,

944
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 5: and so I had to learn how to do that.

945
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 5: So see the game like go from under center to

946
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 5: spread world when RG three and Cap and Rustling, all

947
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: those guys came in the league and transformed the game

948
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 5: to now see it go back. Like I joke all

949
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 5: the time with the youngsters because they be thinking they're

950
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 5: doing something new. I'll be like, bro, this has been

951
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 5: done already, now it's coming back, and they'd be like, oh,

952
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 5: we don't want to play that way. I said, you

953
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 5: got to play that way because these pass rushers are

954
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 5: just elite.

955
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 4: They're the best athletes on the field.

956
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 5: And I think in order to protect the lineman, in

957
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 5: order for the run to me to protect your quarterbacks,

958
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 5: because I think if you're dropping your quarterback fifty times

959
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 5: a game in the.

960
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 4: Shotgun, it's a different element.

961
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 5: But for a linebacker and a safety, when the quarterback's

962
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 5: under center and a running back seven and a half

963
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 5: yards deep in the die, it's a different mentality. He

964
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 5: has a seven yard head start to get to me,

965
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 5: versus he's running sideways and his shoulders not square, and

966
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 5: so the mentality is different. And I think it's smart

967
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 5: by the coaches to be able to bring the old

968
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 5: ways back because it's a.

969
00:40:58,920 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 4: Grind on the defense.

970
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 5: And I think, now now you know, to spread, everybody

971
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 5: wants to score a lot of points in its great

972
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 5: and looks flashy, but it doesn't run the defense out.

973
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 5: And I think what we're seeing now, we're starting to

974
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 5: find that balance again within the league of grinding the

975
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 5: defense so that in the fourth quarter, those past rushers

976
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 5: are a little bit normalized, you know what I mean,

977
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 5: So the quarterback can drop back and see the defense

978
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 5: clean and get completions.

979
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: How difficult though, has it also been with the too

980
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: high and teams running that as frequently as they are

981
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: with these safeties just back like the splash players just

982
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: aren't existing nearly as much anymore. So are you you

983
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, how frustrating is it that you have

984
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: to just go to you know, just run like a

985
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: five yard out and.

986
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: You're just like, that's what we got to do here.

987
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 5: So for me, I don't really care because I played

988
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 5: in the old ways, the old ways that was normal.

989
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 4: The new ways.

990
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 5: It's funny hearing defensive coaches walk into like I played

991
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 5: for some defensive coaches and I will get up there

992
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 5: and they'll get a game plan and say, well, I

993
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 5: don't really care if they rush for one hundred and

994
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 5: fifty yards.

995
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, what right?

996
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 5: Like, I wouldn't have never in my life Money Kiffin

997
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 5: and my rookie year would have went crazy if he

998
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 5: gave up one hundred and fifty yards rushing. Yeah, they like,

999
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 5: we don't care if they're restaur one hundred and fifty.

1000
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 5: They're not gonna stick to it.

1001
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 4: They want it. They're gonna they're gonna try to throw bombs.

1002
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 5: They're gonna take shape, they're gonna take shots, and when

1003
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 5: they take shots, we're gonna we're gonna intercept them. And

1004
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 5: for me, I'm like, well, this is kind of how

1005
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 5: I was trained. Like me, all I look at it.

1006
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 5: If I get four yards, I get a first down,

1007
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 5: and I keep matriculating down the field.

1008
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: Eventually you're gonna have to get.

1009
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 3: Me what I want exactly.

1010
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 4: And once you get me what I want, we're gonna

1011
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 4: have our way. So that's just kind of how I

1012
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 4: look at Yeah.

1013
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 5: Thoughts on David blow As shout out to b blou Man, big,

1014
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 5: big shout out to him. Excited for him. I'm excited

1015
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 5: for his opportunity. He works really hard, he's a student

1016
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 5: of the game. He's very detailed, very detailed, And me

1017
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 5: and him got real close because when Tavda left, he

1018
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 5: became our quarterback coach and so when I was playing,

1019
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 5: me and him work literally worked side by side. So

1020
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be awesome. I think he's ready,

1021
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 5: and I think he's gonna be great for Jaden. I

1022
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 5: think he's gonna be great for the team, and I'm

1023
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 5: looking forward to see his opportunity.

1024
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: Did you think that, like there's been this shift in

1025
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: these backup quarterbacks like rising up the.

1026
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: Ranks quickly, like very fascinating across the league. You have

1027
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 3: Davis Webb now.

1028
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 5: Doing like shout out to dragons, young Dragon, Dragon Web

1029
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 5: It was my I play with him in New York.

1030
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah nice. And I mean even like you know, Scott

1031
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: Tolzen didn't he didn't take.

1032
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 4: It, Scottie and San franc.

1033
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 3: But all these all these backup quarterbacks are just sky like.

1034
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: Do you think that it is the sort of cerebral

1035
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: like the fact that you guys have to be prepared

1036
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: in a way that other players aren't prepared. And you

1037
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: guys just I mean the bottom line, you guys just

1038
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: know ball more than than the other player.

1039
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 5: All three of those names, all the three of those

1040
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 5: guys you just named, they literally students of the game.

1041
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 5: Like they can they can give it to you from

1042
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 5: a quarterbacks perspective, they can give it to you from

1043
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 5: a coach's perspective, from what the receivers need to do,

1044
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 5: tight ends, running backs, et cetera. And I think, you know,

1045
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 5: I'm glad the league is doing this because we need

1046
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 5: more teachers of the game. I think in the best

1047
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 5: teachers of the game is guys that being able to

1048
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 5: actually be in inexperience it.

1049
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 4: Because it's one thing. It's one thing. It's one thing.

1050
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 5: We call it clicking clicker pimping, like we it's one

1051
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 5: thing to be able to actually sit up there and

1052
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 5: wind it's slowing down and be able to say, Okay,

1053
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 5: why didn't you do this? But one thing is about

1054
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 5: the guys who played. They have that they have that

1055
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 5: discernment to understand, like, I see why you did that.

1056
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 5: I see that I saw the three technique get beat.

1057
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 5: I saw the three technique beat the right guard and

1058
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 5: flashed in front of your eyes even though he didn't

1059
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 5: hit you. So I understand why you had to why

1060
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 5: you had to change your drop or why you moved

1061
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 5: your eyes that way. And I think it's so necessary

1062
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 5: now because the league has gotten younger. You know, most

1063
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 5: of the teams are a lot younger than what they

1064
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 5: used to be. So you need guys in there who

1065
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 5: actually experienced it, who can teach it and also had

1066
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 5: that discernment and be like, I understand why you did

1067
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 5: that because everybody everything is a reaction and you know,

1068
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 5: you know, now we're so critical of the game.

1069
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 4: You like, why didn't he do this? Why didn't he

1070
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: do that?

1071
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 5: And I tell my fan, I tell exactly like I

1072
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 5: tell I tell my family all the time. Like you

1073
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 5: guys have been seen. You guys have been watching football

1074
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 5: from a lens of seeing it. Played it the right

1075
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 5: way for cut y'all watching on Sunday, I said, but

1076
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 5: you got to put in perspective. This is second year

1077
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 5: in the league, his first time being out there. This

1078
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 5: is all new for him. What's owed to you as

1079
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 5: a fan, it's new for him. So something that may

1080
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 5: seem routine not routine for him. He got to go

1081
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 5: through those limps just like everybody else did. It's not

1082
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 5: like we got Tom Brady's just sitting around here forty

1083
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 5: five everywhere.

1084
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. It's definitely the

1085
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: exception for sure.

1086
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 2: All right, real quick, before we go, favorite wide receiver,

1087
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: you're thrown too. Ooh ooh, it's fourth down, it's fourth

1088
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: and gold.

1089
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1090
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: From the twelve.

1091
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 3: You get a lot of choices.

1092
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 5: I got a lot of choices, and I got them

1093
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 5: in different eras too, Like I played with Odell before

1094
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 5: the injuries.

1095
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I play with a look.

1096
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: If you want to say, Pete Odell. That's very accepted.

1097
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 2: Like Odell in his prime.

1098
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: Will make somebody man.

1099
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 5: If it's fourth and twelve on the red zone, yeah,

1100
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 5: I mean I need a high target who can catch anything.

1101
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with a young AJ Green Cincinnati because

1102
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 5: AJ literally can catch anything, oh my god. Like and

1103
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 5: he was like a center fielder, like he could put it.

1104
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 5: He could track a ball, put his head down, speed up,

1105
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 5: and retrack it. AJ Green was easy. Like AJ go

1106
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 5: out there running Fae real quick. I'm gonna throw a

1107
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 5: back short. There's gonna be a touchdown. So I'm gonna say,

1108
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 5: but no disrespect to none of the receivers I played with,

1109
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 5: because they was awesome. But it was four and twelve

1110
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 5: from the red zone, so I had to go out

1111
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 5: the six four target.

1112
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thanks Josh, really appreciate you being all.

1113
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 5: Thanks for having appreciate it. Thank you all for educating

1114
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 5: on fantasy football because I don't understand.

1115
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 2: All right, So that was the interview with Josh. Dude,

1116
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come Josh because he was awesome. He's he's

1117
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: a friend now.

1118
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so people didn't see like we were talking to

1119
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: him for like five minutes before five to get him

1120
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: to like his workouts and like your easy to get

1121
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: this on record.

1122
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun.

1123
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: It was awesome. He was a super super cool dude,

1124
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 3: but it was it was fun.

1125
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: Like that's the kind of thing that I've noticed with

1126
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: with being here in Radio row and like experiencing the

1127
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl is just like I want to just talk

1128
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: to these players. Yes, we play fantasy football, and like

1129
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: it's very easy to not think of them as people sometimes,

1130
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: right because that's the game that we play, and no

1131
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: one's at fault for that's just like naturally how we

1132
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: play this game. We're looking at the kind of production

1133
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: they're giving us, the numbers that they're giving us, and

1134
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: so it is it is really nice to just because

1135
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: we don't get this opportunity to just sit down and

1136
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: talk to players and so hopefully you guys like enjoyed

1137
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: the questions we asked and kind of the insight that

1138
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: he gave. I thought he gave some awesome answers, but

1139
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: also like just know that like you know, before and

1140
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 1: after and such, like he was awesome.

1141
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 3: It was great to talk to him.

1142
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and tomorrow we've got some wide receivers that we'll

1143
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: talk to, including one who is just rising up the

1144
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: draft boards, and another who crushed it last year's rookie season.

1145
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: So stick around for that JJ. Do you have any

1146
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: closing thoughts?

1147
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 3: No, man, I'm just thankful that we're here and hopefully

1148
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: everyone enjoyed.

1149
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: I know, it's a little bit of a different show

1150
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: and a different format and stuff, and things will be

1151
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: back to normal next week and all that all that stuff.

1152
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 3: You know, I did the by candidate's episode earlier this week.

1153
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, like, hopefully you guys are enjoying it,

1154
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: and you guys can can feel our excitement, you know

1155
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: through the show that like this is cool.

1156
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's cool.

1157
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool having everyone around us.

1158
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 3: It's cool.

1159
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: So shout out to iHeart and the folks at the

1160
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: NFL radio or podcast network on behalf of JJ, I'm David.

1161
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: We'll see you next time here on the late round

1162
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: Fantasy football show piece. All right,