1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: State of Florida versus Casey Marie Anthony as to the 2 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: charge of first degree murder. We the jury finally defendant 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: not guilty. Somewhere out there, the devil is dancing tonight. 4 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The Anthony's finally 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: reveal what they think really happened to Kaylee. I don't 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: believe that she drowned in this pool. I don't believe 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: that that's a bunch of crap. I believe that Casey 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: gave her something. Kayley didn't wake up. I have to 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: forgive her because if I don't forgive her, then I'm 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: not going to be able to live with myself. Am 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: I ever going to speak to my daughter again? We're 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: done right now. This is the most agitated and frustrated 13 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: that I've been, even when I sat with Jose and 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: I watched that episode of the Nancy Greece. Well, it 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: never ends with Todd Mom kay see Anthony. She's back 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: in the news after some allegedly never before seeing sound 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: from top mom Casey Anthony behind bars, and also we 18 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: hear more from George and Cindy Anthony. Her parents haven't 19 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: they suffered enough? Well, here's the latest. I mean, see Grace, 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: this is crime Stories. 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To me, 50 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: that's that's too easy of a story to bring up, 51 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: because if that would have happened, I think my daughter 52 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: would at least have the common decency, in the common 53 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: sense decide to call nine one one and say say 54 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: something my daughters in the pool I can't bid or 55 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: she's whatever, that's a bunch of crap. So what George 56 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Anthony is saying here is he doesn't believe his daughter, 57 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: Casey Anthony drowned the baby in the pool, or that 58 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: Kelly died in the pool by accident, or he believes 59 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: tot mom would have had the quote decency to call 60 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: police Okay. First of all, she did not have the 61 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: decency to call police because she killed the baby. But 62 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: think about George's position to believe this could have been 63 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: an accident. Maybe the only way he can process this 64 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: that she had an accident with the baby and then 65 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: covered it up because he wants to believe their own 66 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: child could commit murder. But the reality is, the evidence 67 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: does not jive with the theory of a death in 68 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: the pool. Maybe they had been swimming in the pool, 69 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: but there is chloroform and taught Mom's trunk, there are 70 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: searches about how to make chloroform on the computer. The 71 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: lies by Tott Mom for thirty plus days, not telling 72 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: anyone her child was missing, and in fact overtly lying, partying, 73 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: getting a tattoo that says the sweet life. I mean, 74 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: it just goes on and on, slung up with her boyfriend. 75 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: She wasn't worried about what happened to the child at all, 76 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: And none of that jives with an accidental pool drowning. 77 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: What a youth think about that claim by George Anthony 78 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: Allen He doesn't believe she drowned in the pool, but 79 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: he says he does now after all of this time 80 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: have a theory about how his granddaughter died. Kaylee was 81 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: with Casey. I believe that Casey gave for something. Okay, 82 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: so Alan, that theory is not beyond the realm of 83 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: possibility that she would go out and party and drug 84 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: the baby and put her in the trunk to make 85 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: her go to sleep. Says she could appear to be 86 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: a single woman to all of her. Let me just say, euphemistically, suitors, 87 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: that's possible. But then enter the evidence, the evidence of 88 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: a duct tape on the skull. You don't drug the 89 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: child to make her sleep. Let's just say, with an 90 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: overdose of beta drill plus, put duct tape over the 91 00:05:54,200 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: mouth and or the nose. Alan Well, George Anthony in 92 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: the in this new interview starts talking specifically about drugs 93 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: that Casey Anthony's friends use, and one of those friends 94 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: also is interviewed and he talks about how when there 95 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: were references when Casey would refer to her nanny as Zanni, 96 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: he reminded viewers that the nickname for Zanex is Zanni, 97 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: Zanny the name. But then, of course there's also then 98 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: made up nanny. The big lie about Zenaida Gonzalez, which 99 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: is zanny. So, okay, let's hear that from the friend. 100 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: Let's hear it, Allen. A lot of people know zanni 101 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: is the slang term for zanex. So as soon as 102 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: I heard that Danny the nanny, that was what popped 103 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: into my mind. I thought that she was using zan 104 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: X to babysit her child. So that's one allusion towards 105 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: zan X. But even so zan X chloroform. It doesn't matter. 106 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: When you drug your child and put him in the 107 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: trunk so your lover doesn't realize you're saddled with a 108 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: child and put duct tape over the child's mouth and 109 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: leave her in the trunk, that's murder. I mean even 110 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: if even if she drugged the child in order to 111 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: be a swinging single and the child died, that's still 112 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: fell any murder. Child abused by drugging the child put 113 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: him in the trunk. Forget about the duct tape, But 114 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: drugging a child and put it in putting it in 115 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: the trunk, that's child abuse. And a death occurred. That's 116 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: a death that occurred during the commission of a felony. 117 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: What do you think, Allan, the idea of the drugging, 118 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: the reason that George is coming to that conclusion now. 119 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: He's thinking back to how Cayley looked and how she 120 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: in those last few weeks or months. She was sleeping 121 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: long periods of time. He said, she would sleep for 122 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: twelve hours. She was lacking energy, her eyes were getting dark, 123 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: and that is one of the things that led him 124 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: to believe that she was using xanax or other drugs 125 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: as the nanny. All right, Alan, that's a really good point. 126 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: Let's let's listen. Let's hear George just discussed that Hayley 127 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: was always a very healthy child, very healthy girl, but 128 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: just now at times that she would sleep for ten 129 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: hours at a time makes no sense to me. When 130 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: I'd see her from one day to an exit, it's 131 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: really different. We can see a difference with blackness, fly 132 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: through eyes and stuff like that. At two and a 133 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: half almost three year old child would not have that 134 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: unless something's going on. Also, in my mind, Alan, they 135 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: repeated use of drugs to knock your child out as 136 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: basically a babysitter, as child abuse, I mean, just plain 137 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: and simple. What was really startling about the interview was 138 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: the differences between George and Cindy. But yet they are 139 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: still together. First off, George says, basically, his daughter is 140 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: no longer his daughter. She is history. Let's listen to that. 141 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: Am I ever going to speak to my daughter again? 142 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: We're done? Because when all this stuff happened, I lost 143 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: my daughter and my granddaughter. I lost in folks. I 144 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: would like to believe it really is the end, that 145 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: they really are cutting things off forever with top Mom, 146 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: because not that I want to see a fractured family, 147 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: but because I mean, when you don't know a horse, 148 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: look at her track record. She's just going to get 149 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: back in touch with them, use them, mistreat them, and 150 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: then do some horrible thing. And how do you get 151 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: past your daughter lying that you molested her. They're good people, 152 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: all right, They are good people, and they've been through 153 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: h E double L and I don't want to see 154 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: that happen to them anymore. So, Okay, what does Cindy say, Alan, 155 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: It's completely the opposite. She says she still hopes to 156 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: have a relationship with Casey, and in fact occasionally talks 157 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: to her. Let's listen, we talked from time to time. 158 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: I speak to her on the phone. I think it's 159 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: a slow process, but I feel that we're reconnecting. I 160 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: have to forgive her because if I don't forgive her, 161 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: then I'm not going to be able to live with myself. Wow. 162 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: You know that shows Alan a mother's love really has 163 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: no bounds. Because it's incredible to me that they could 164 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: go through what they went through at trial and still 165 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: still want to have a relationship with her. It's just 166 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: such a dichotomy to see Cindy's love for top Mom 167 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: Casey and top Mom's lack of love for Keiley. You know, 168 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: it's just heartbreaking to me. One of the more startling 169 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: revelations to me was with George and Cindy describing how 170 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: they can stay together as a married couple, husband and wife, 171 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: so close yet one hundred eighty degree separated on this issue, 172 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: one defending the daughter and one basically condemning her. I 173 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: refuse to let to break us up. I mean, sure, 174 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: we've we've had our moments, but I don't think her 175 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: and I could really be hurt much anymore because of 176 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: what we've we've seen taken. God, what's been thrown at us. 177 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: I don't think there's too much more. I don't think 178 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: we can find anybody else that would understand my day 179 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: to day ups and downs and what we go through 180 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: other than him, that is powerful. You know, there's something 181 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: about being in a family. You you really are a 182 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: team for better or for worse. And who else could 183 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: they share their thoughts with and what they've been through 184 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: other than each other? You know, after all they've been through. 185 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: I guess Cindy still loves top Mom. I mean I 186 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: still say that Sandy risk perjury taking a stand and climb, 187 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: mean those searches for hers, She still maintains that those computer, 188 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: those damning computer searches for hers, right, yes, in fact, 189 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: would you like to hear it? Love to grow it. 190 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: I was searching for stuff that had pertained to our 191 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: bamboo because one of the dogs was getting ill after 192 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: I noticed after eating the bamboo leaves that was in 193 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: our yard. So I wanted to make sure there was 194 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: no toxicity or anything I need to be concerned with, 195 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: and I searched chlora phil But I remember chloroform coming 196 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: up during the search. I still don't think Sandy did 197 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: those searches. I think that they occurred at a time 198 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: when she was allegedly at work number one. It was 199 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: to my understanding on Top Mom's account that she was 200 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: logged in at that time. Her story is that she 201 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: was worried the dog would eat bamboo, and that instead 202 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: of writing chlora phil which is, you know, a natural 203 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: process of photosynthesis, water plus and creates chlorophyll, which makes 204 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: things green, trying to figure out how to make what 205 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: homemade chlorophil? I mean, that doesn't even make any sense. 206 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: And then the scientists find chloroform traces in Top Mom's trunk. My, 207 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: that's certainly a coincidence. But you know what, I've got 208 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: to give it to Sindy Anthony. She's going down sticking 209 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: with her story and defending Top Mom. I mean, she is, 210 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: that's the case, and I admire George for sticking with Cindy. 211 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: This couple is if they can live through this and 212 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: still hold hands. They were interviewed separately and together, still 213 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: be together after all of this and all of the differences. 214 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that is a love story. Right There is 215 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: such a contrast, you know, I just hate it. I 216 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: thought I had suffered so much when my fiance was 217 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: murdered before our wedding, but now that I have children, 218 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: I cannot even imagine. They treated Kelly as their own daughter. 219 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: They wanted to adopt her. In fact, Cindy and Todd 220 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: Mom argued vehemently and a lot often over how to 221 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: raise Kelly. Cindy wanted to raise her Top Mom. I 222 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: think really would rather see her dead than have her 223 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: mother raiser. Just the wake of pain taught Mom has 224 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: loft behind her. I pray to God that Cindy and 225 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: George can go on and have a happy life and 226 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: be reunited with Kelly in heaven. I just hate what 227 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: they've been through here on earth. I still think Cindy 228 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: Anthony is covering for top Mom, and she was ready 229 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: to go to jail for perjury, and that proves her 230 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: love for Casey Anthony Top Mom. Okay, guys, this is 231 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: one of those cases bran my mind. The jury had 232 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: it completely wrong. It was a miscarriage of justice. But 233 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not the ultimate judge and we know 234 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: who is. Alan. Thank you so much for going through 235 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: all this with me and and rehashing something that I'm 236 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: still intrigued by and fascinated by. I guess it's more 237 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: unsettling than anything else when I think of little Kelly 238 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: Blue Apron. Thank you so much for being our sponsor 239 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: for our podcast today, making home cooked and affordable meals 240 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: delivered just for the cooking or the baking to your 241 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: back door, and you can have those moments that I 242 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: try to make for my family it's hard to do, 243 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: by the way, where we're all together around the table 244 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: for dinner at night. Thank you, Blue Apron, and thank 245 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: you for sponsoring our podcast, Nancy Grace Crime Stories, Signing off, 246 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: goodbye friend.