1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: It's that time. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 2: Time, time, time. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Luck and load. The Michael Verie Show is on the air. 4 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Comers go home for weeks at a time and there's 5 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: no real news, and then they're back for ten minutes 6 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: and we have a crisis on our hands. These people 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: are like the carnival coming through town. There's a lot 8 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: of hullabaloo and noise and attention and screaming and streamers 9 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: and bearded ladies and come on, come on, you don't 10 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: want to miss this. You'll never see it again. It's 11 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: the greatest show on Oh it got out. None of 12 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: what they're talking about matters of not one bit of it. 13 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: Think about this. Imagine the most powerful government in the 14 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: history of mankind and it shuts down every few months. 15 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I don't want to ruin Christmas for 16 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: any of the kids or Easter, but there comes a 17 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: point where you kind of go, wait a second. I've 18 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: been thinking on this and it doesn't really make sense 19 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: to me. How does our government keep shutting down because 20 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: they don't have money? Why why do they What is 21 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: a continuing resolution that lasts for a few months and 22 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: then we're back doing this again. These are questions that 23 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: are reasonable to ask you should be asking. If you 24 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: had a friend you had to come bail out every 25 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: three or four months, you'd say, looks the last time. Okay, 26 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: I will bail you out here, my friend. But this 27 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: is a pattern, and you're choosing a set of behaviors 28 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: that trigger a chain reaction that end up here. But 29 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: can't you just come get me? I'm in jail. Yeah, 30 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: you're always in jail. That's just it. That's the point. 31 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: This isn't a one off thing. It's a series of 32 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: behaviors you consistently perform that has become a pattern. And 33 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: I don't want to be part of that anymore. I 34 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: don't want I don't want that drama. You'll see women 35 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: who date the kind of guy their dad hates, the 36 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: bad boy, and everything they like about that guy is 37 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: everything that's going to make him the abusive boyfriend. That's 38 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: everything that's going to make him the guy she's having 39 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: to flee from when she tries to leave him. But 40 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: give her a month, she'll be back with another one, 41 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: just like that flip of the coin. The guy who's 42 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: dating the girl who's the former stripper, who's wild, who 43 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: comes in she's got those lips that are slapping the 44 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: wall from the other end of the room. She's got 45 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 1: her hair all done, she's got the boobs so far 46 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: out they'll knock you over. She's dated everybody in town. 47 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: You know, there's girls in town. There's girls in Houston 48 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: that when they walk in, they're very striking at first 49 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: because there's been a lot of work done in massive boobs, 50 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: and then and then they've had a lot of lightpo 51 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: and then they've had the lippuckered way. There's big duck lips, 52 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: and then there's it's it's sunken in under the eyes 53 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: because they've just gone in and just carved out anything 54 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: that was flesh, so the eyes are kind of bugged out. 55 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: The eyelashes are eight inches long, so they're actually fanning 56 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: you if you're in the middle of a conversation. The 57 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: hair is dyed a color that there's no way it 58 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: could have been natural when she was eight years old, 59 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: much less thirty seven. And people will say that's fill 60 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: in the blinks, ex wife, that's her claim to fame. Okay, 61 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: so there is a guy that will marry that woman. Well, 62 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: first he'll start dating her, and the way he will 63 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: describe it will be like is. He knows, he knows 64 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: it's dumb, but he can't help himself. Yeah, are you dating? 65 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: You give me a name, Ramon, Okay, you're dating Michelle. 66 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: I am. Oh my goodness, that's a wild ride. I 67 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: don't know where this thing's going to go. That's a 68 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: wild ride. I uh man, she's uh, she's something else. 69 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it's. Uh, she's done. 70 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: So. 71 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: You know she used to be married to you know 72 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: so and so. Yeah, Well she's been and ridding more 73 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: time than Secretariat. I mean, hup up their jockey. But 74 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: I don't know where you're getting off. I don't know. 75 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what this ride looks like for you. 76 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: And then you know two years later, Hey, Michael, can 77 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: you give me a good divorce attorney? Is this for you? Yeah? 78 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: I know I know what you're gonna say. I'm not 79 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: gonna say it's just the fourth time we've done this. 80 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it, and I won't say it 81 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: when you do it with the next one that you 82 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: see out at the bar on Thursday night and you're 83 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: with your friends, and it just it's a pattern. The 84 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: patterns tend to repeat themselves, and even people in those 85 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: patterns feel powerless to stop the pattern. The shutdown of 86 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 1: the government is a pattern. It's a game we play, 87 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: and the reason we play it is it gets everybody 88 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: focused on Congress. The important thing for you to remember 89 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: is that you have no life. You do not matter, 90 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: You are not thing. The only thing that matters is 91 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: the government. And your whole role in life is to 92 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: be obsessed with the government at all times. And so 93 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people will think, yeah, well, i'll just 94 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: be for the other side, and I'll just really be 95 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: for them, and we'll beat y'all, and then you will 96 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: you're already caught up in it. Our side wants it too, 97 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: They thrive on it. It wasn't always this way. The 98 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court didn't have the power over our lives that 99 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: it did now. The Supreme Court used to meet in 100 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: an afterthought room in the Senate Building, didn't have their own, 101 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, museum to them. There was once a case 102 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: that people didn't really know much of who was in 103 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: the government, nor did they care. These shutdowns keep happening, 104 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: and anybody that turns this on my wife, let's see 105 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: if I can find it in. My wife was spending 106 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: the afternoon with my dad yesterday and he was very happy. 107 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: One of the things that they encourage at old folks 108 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: homes is anything to stimulate your brain. Well, my dad 109 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: doesn't like whatever it is that you have that stimulates 110 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: your brain. So he played checkers. So a woman came 111 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: at here's my wife's message. Dad's so excited. He was 112 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: in occupational therapy. A woman came up and played checkers 113 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: with him, and he beat her soundly, and he is thrilled. 114 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: You know that deal, like when you're a little kid 115 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: and the adults play with you and they let you 116 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 1: in and you feel pretty good about it. I feel 117 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: certain that's what's happened. But anyway, so she said, you know, 118 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: you really get a sense of the common man's anger 119 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: at government. While talking to Dad before Duck Dynasty, they 120 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: watched Duck Dynasty together. He had some form of Fox 121 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: News on and they were broadcasting line from the floor 122 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: of Congress where a congressman was droning on and on 123 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: about the shutdown and how it affected the common man 124 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: and how this was ridiculous that the Democrats were not 125 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: playing ball. Dad had a different take. He felt that 126 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: all of Congress and all the politicians should be fired 127 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: off with their heads, so to speak, and replaced with 128 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: a whole new set Democrats and Republicans, all of them fired. 129 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: That's my dad. This is the Michael Berry Show, locked 130 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: and loaded, locked and loaded. 131 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: With sighs. The actors he have not god up to. 132 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: I'm houing for you. 133 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: Everybody's got a story about the fraud of welfare and 134 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: food stamps, Scott writes, is aar. Here's how food stamps 135 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: work with the four homeless people that I know in 136 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: Chambers County. Number one, homeless people get actual food from 137 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: Catholic and Baptist churches. Number two. With food in hand, 138 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: they then get food stamps for cash for their marijuana 139 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: that's laced with other drugs. Skunk weed is pipe doin nowadays. 140 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: Number three they work odd jobs for everything else from transportation, 141 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: to housing tents and to whatever else he didn't put. 142 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: Number four, Oh, this is four people. The three things 143 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: they do. Yes, food stamps are an alternate currency, just 144 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: like in prison at the commissary. Food stamps are what 145 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: you use to pay for sex and drugs. That's it. 146 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: Food is plentiful charities, these different organizations there, there's actual 147 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: food there. I keep getting questions about the food bank. 148 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: The food bank, the food bank. Very few people use 149 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: the food bank for their food. Now, that's going to 150 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: upset a lot of rich women who are on the 151 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: board of the food bank, I'm sure. But realistically, however, 152 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: many people the food bank is serving. It's a small 153 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: percentage of the people who are getting welfare for food 154 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: because it's not really about food, you see, It's not 155 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: about the food. It's about an alternate currency that can 156 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: be traded on a discount. Somebody gets food out of 157 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: it at some point it's being used for food. But 158 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: in the meantime there's going to be some tricks turned 159 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: and some drugs handed over. That's what's going to happen. 160 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: Renee writes zar your conversation this morning hits home. My 161 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: sister has been scamming the government for fifteen years, claiming 162 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: disability while she works for cash cleaning houses and final 163 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: cleanup on commercial and residential construction sites while also buying 164 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: Filet mignon with her snap card. Two weeks ago, she 165 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: went crazy when I settled my daddy's estate and deducted 166 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: a discounted amount for his car from her settlement. It's 167 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: worth fourteen thousand. I deducted ten. She claims she didn't 168 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: want the car, but she quote unquote borrowed it two 169 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: days after his passing and refused to park it or 170 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: give up the keys. She claims she's a conservative, but 171 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: she acts exactly like a democrat, wants everything for free, 172 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: and is the perpetual victim. There's a certain groundhogged day 173 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 1: element to people who live on benefits, they're in drug addictions. 174 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: These sorts of people are capable at any given time 175 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: of massing and and really believing it, which is what 176 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: makes it pathological, really believing that nobody's trying to help 177 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: me and I'm trying to help myself, and y'all don't 178 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: realize that I'm doing it. Okay, but you as we've 179 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: had this conversation trinder times. I'm just trying to get 180 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: through right now. I'm trying to do the right thing, 181 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: and nobody wants to help me, and I thought, I'm 182 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: a part of this family. And if y'all don't want 183 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: to help me, that's fine. I'll just got myself and 184 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: I'll do that. No, no, no, okay, but we've done 185 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: this a lot link this is what we do. We're 186 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: in this pattern perpetually, and you don't have the higher 187 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: reasoning skills that I'm cursed with to see that this 188 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: is the pattern you've been in your entire life, and 189 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: that we keep in that moment doing what it takes 190 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: to keep you alive in one way or another, to 191 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: keep you happy, to keep you from cutting us off, 192 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: to keep you from guilting us, to keep you out 193 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: of trouble. We all keep pitching in to get you 194 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: through this moment, and we're leaving living a whole life 195 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: of this moment, and this moments are a pattern that 196 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: cannot continue. People like that have to be allowed to fail, 197 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: because if they're not, they create a new pattern that 198 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: they grow to subsist on, like a barnacle and a 199 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: feed off of you. And it's not to their advantage either, 200 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: It's not in their interest to do this. So I 201 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: would like to hear from you. Listen carefully before you go. 202 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: I would like to hear from you if you are 203 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: a person who you hear me talking and you go, wow, 204 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: that was me. I was rock bottom. I was lazy, 205 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: I was addicted, I was on snap, I was on welfare. 206 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: I want to hear from you if you were a 207 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: person who was sucking up welfare benefits, and you made 208 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: a major life change, and you look back on that 209 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: now and you can't believe that person was you. But 210 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: you are so much happier now that you are responsible 211 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: for your own life. You may not make as money, 212 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: as much money as you like, but you make your money. 213 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: You know, growing up, we took such pride that we 214 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: didn't we didn't take government cheese. We didn't We didn't 215 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: need things or accept things from the government, but could have. 216 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: And that was a point of great pride to my dad. 217 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: And I think about that often. How many people don't 218 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: have any pride because when you make that compromise, you 219 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: know what, screw it. I don't care what people say 220 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: about me. I'm just going to live off the government. 221 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to live off my neighbors. I'm going to 222 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: be the person who just lives off my neighbors that 223 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: everyone resents I don't provide for myself or my children. 224 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: When you make that decision, there is a certain there's 225 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: a certain party that dies. So if that is you, 226 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: or you have a brother or sister who is completely 227 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: scamming the system seven one three nine nine nine one thousand, 228 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: seven one three nine nine, nine one thousand, Chris was 229 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: on already go. 230 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 4: Ahead, sweetheart, Michael, I'm calling. I'll go to there. I 231 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: just retired, seventy seven years old. I worked all my 232 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: life and I got to the store. These bit set 233 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: women that has covered all over the bodies, that have 234 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 4: the nails down, real party that sit on the phone 235 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: and then go on the register and buy with goush's 236 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 4: nothing but jump on the cart and with foots And 237 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: this is nothing but a big old scamp. 238 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: Chris Lean and I just want to give you a 239 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: big hug seven one thousand, I guarantee you. Chris was 240 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: a good word. And Michael Gurus tea issuers the part 241 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: of your life. Remember the EBT card, all the drama 242 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: behind that. This is how we waste our time in 243 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: this country, My goodness, These are the issues we waste 244 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: our time on. Not curing cancer, not space travel, not 245 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: great art or science, commerce or transportation. Oh no, no, 246 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: feeding the life of stock. It's like a pasture full 247 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: of useless, grazing animals. Maybe we can keep them from 248 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: stabbing us, shooting us, stealing our cars, raping the women. If, 249 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: dear God, we have to defend ourselves they've got lawyers 250 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: on standby. I heard Ben Crump moved into Houston. Did 251 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: you know this? Apparently Ben Crump is living in Houston 252 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: on the north side. Then they're the victims. So we 253 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: got George Floyd. George Floyd who goes down in history 254 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: as a victim. Now that, my goodness, it really makes 255 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: you wonder what have you been told about history that 256 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: turns out is not so accurate. That a bad person 257 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: was made into a hero and a good person was 258 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: made into a devil. It really makes you wonder, doesn't it. 259 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: Gym you're up, Go ahead. 260 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I used sown to use car lock, and I 261 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 2: sold to a lot of these EBT recipients. And I'll 262 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: tell you what. They would come in. They would buy 263 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: a car. They'd have a car full of little kids 264 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 2: with sitting in a dirty diaper, throwing trash in my driveway. 265 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 2: Their kids would would age out, turn eighteen, and they 266 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: come in and say, oh, I can't make my payments 267 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: because my kids done growed up and I don't get 268 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 2: my money. They sit around and they breathe and get 269 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 2: free money from the state from you and me, and 270 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: you know it gets old. I told one I wish 271 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: I could sit around and get money from the state 272 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 2: for doing nothing all day and uh man, she chimped out, 273 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: like nobody's business. 274 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: Well, the thing about it is as disgusting as we 275 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: find that behavior, it's actually not very fulfilling. It is 276 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: surprising to people that the EBT cardholder, food snap Section 277 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: eight welfare recipient, constant victim person, that that person is 278 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: not more grateful and happy, because to most people they think, well, 279 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: this is what life. This is like being retired but 280 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: not having to work to get there. But it's actually 281 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: not that at all. If you don't have to work 282 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: to earn something, you don't enjoy that thing. Let me 283 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: tell you. I grew up across from a woman we 284 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: called granny. She wasn't my granny, she was Craig mcave's granny. 285 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: And she would call over to my mom and say, 286 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: y'all come over, I got some extra and then we'd 287 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: walk across the street and it was really something to do. 288 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: There's nothing to do out in the country. And you'd 289 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: walk over and there was her squash and there was 290 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: her tomatoes that had come in real good that year, 291 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: and you know, take some of this. Loretta and my 292 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: mom said no, no, no, these are beautifully and she'd 293 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: really just done it to humor her and sit and 294 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: have a cup of coff and then we'd go back home, 295 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: but she would insist on sending us with tomatoes and 296 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: squashing the different things she had raised right in her 297 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: front yard. There was Granny out there digging in the 298 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: dirt in the Texas heat and grow in the most 299 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: incredible garden. My grandmother and grandfather they had, which was 300 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: Papau and Nanny. They had some land to the side. 301 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: It was all flooded land, so they'd gotten it pretty cheap, 302 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: and they'd moved their trailer up there next to my 303 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: great grandmother, who I called Grandmother, and my great grandfather 304 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: who I called Papo Bob, and they had some land 305 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: that wasn't used for anything else, and so they had 306 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: planted it all. And I can remember they would be 307 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: so proud of the corn on the cob. Lurmona. If 308 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: you've never raised, if you've never eaten country raised corn 309 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: on the cob, you better hope you didn't get jolly 310 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: green giant before that, because when you've eaten grocery store 311 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: corn on the cob and then you come home with 312 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: some stuff that's been eaten half eaten by the squirrels. 313 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: And half of them are purple, and some of them 314 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: are brown, and some of them are yellow. And they're 315 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: not full and fluffy and hormone and jacketed and full 316 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: of cancer. They don't taste good. They're just they're kind 317 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: of just little bitty tiny kernels and it's not even 318 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: a full you know. I like to get on there. 319 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: I like to get the machine going, the rollers going right, 320 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: get it on both ends. We had those two little 321 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: yellow corns that the two little yellow whatever they had 322 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: the corn embroidered on there or whatever, and then they 323 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: got the two prongs. You stick it in both ends 324 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: and you go to town poof and get another one. Yeah, well, 325 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: you can't do that with homegrown. You can't do that 326 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: because there's not enough. The homegrown is not it's not 327 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: that way. You just you kind of pick around at it. 328 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: But they were so proud of it because they had 329 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: grown it. When people don't have to earn money, then 330 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: whatever they have they're not proud of. It's the power 331 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: to earn, the accomplishment of earning. It's never the thing itself. 332 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: It's never the thing itself. It's saving up for that 333 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: watch or that shotgun, or for a lady a purse. 334 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: It's the waiting, it's the earning. It's the accomplishment, it's 335 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: the pomp and circumstance. It's never the item itself. So 336 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: there is this false idea that these people are happy 337 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: because they don't have to work. But they're not happy. 338 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: Look at them. They're not happy. They're in a constant 339 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: state of emotional squalor. And you could put them in 340 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: a palace, it wouldn't matter. They have no meaning to 341 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: their lives. There's no structure and no meaning. They do 342 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: nothing that gives them any sense of accomplishment. And we 343 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: need that we thrive on that. Steve you' old Michael 344 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: Berry show, go ahead. 345 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 3: Hey, good morning, sir. Hey, So I grew up pretty 346 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 3: well off. When I was younger. My dad was a 347 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 3: pain contractor and actually painted John Wayne's Long Beach home, 348 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 3: and so we started off really well. And as I 349 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: grew up, my dad got sick and slowly deteriorated over 350 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: thirty years, and so we got put into the system. 351 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 3: Like I've been on welfare. I can tell you what 352 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: government tastes like. It tastes like trash and bad feelings. 353 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 3: But as I got older, I started working in her 354 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 3: little family on my own had three little kids, and 355 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 3: I had to take them to this clinic that we 356 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: called the Dogtown. Family was so disrespected over the course 357 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: of nine hours of waiting that I said to myself, 358 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 3: never again. And so I went out there and I 359 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: worked every hour, every job I could get, so that 360 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 3: I could my family wouldn't be disrespected like that in 361 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: the future. And I think today's society just has a 362 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 3: broken wants to you, nobody wants to and they're okay 363 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 3: with the disrespect, and they don't want more. They're they're 364 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: they're comfortable in the setting the government is providing for them. 365 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: Yes, comfortable might not be the perfectly accurate word, but 366 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: it'll do for now because they are accepting of it. 367 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: How about that they have they're resigned to it. What 368 00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: do you do now? 369 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 4: I'm in sales. 370 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: I work for a wheelchair MANUA or company that provides wheelchairs. 371 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: Hold on a second, hold on, it's good story. Thank 372 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: you for sharing. Hold on, God, I forgot how good 373 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: that line is. No, we're not the Jetsons where the 374 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: old chevroletsons. But ain't we got love. This is the 375 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: kind of thing you've seen in Mauriceville, sitting in your 376 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: trailer with shag carpet, watching the TV because it's not 377 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: very wide, single white right across, eating a TV dinner 378 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: and may I say, happy as all get out. The 379 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: funny thing is people think that country folk and poor 380 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: folk were working are so miserable. They're not. People think, well, 381 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: if I couldn't go on a fancy vacation, if I 382 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: couldn't do this, and if I lived there, and if 383 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: I was eating a TV and dringing a six pack 384 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: of beer, I mean, I can't imagine how miserable I'd be. 385 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: But they're not miserable. That's just it. There are people 386 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: who are happy who are living like that. It's just 387 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: you can't imagine being happy living like that. But if 388 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: they are happy, isn't that good? I mean, don't we 389 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: We don't want everyone to aspire to be a billionaire. 390 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: I have a really sad society. You want people to 391 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: aspire to live up to their own talents and skill 392 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: sets and goals and accomplishments, and to enjoy that and 393 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: to keep striving. It's a delicate balance. But no, that's 394 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: not an across the board a hell of a song, ramon, good, 395 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: good on you all right, Steve? So what are you 396 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: doing now, sir? 397 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: I actually work in healthcare, work in healthcare for most 398 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: of my life, but currently I tell wheelchairs to skilled 399 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: nursing facilities. 400 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: And who who do you work for? What kind of 401 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: company is this? 402 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: The company I work for is called Total Care out 403 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: of Tyler, Texas. 404 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: And where are you based? 405 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 3: I'm out there in Tombull. I'm headed for Beaumont though today. 406 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: So we're all over the place. 407 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: And so are Do they give you a company car? 408 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: Yes, sir? 409 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: What is it? 410 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 3: It's a little Nissan Kicks. It's a little roller skate. 411 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: I'm not making fun of it. I'm just curious what 412 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: it is. Hey, listen, it beats car. 413 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie. 414 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: Kind of nice for a little car. 415 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: Does it have Total Care on the side of it? 416 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, it's all over all over the car. 417 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: And and then so they give you that, and what 418 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: do you do? You go out and call on nurses. 419 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we go out to nursing homes and call on 420 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 3: rehab staff and do wheelchair vouts for their patients. 421 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so it so you don't you don't fit the 422 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: wheelchair or deliver the wheelchair for the patient. They're doing 423 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: ten wheelchairs at a time, presumably, No, it's. 424 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 3: It's more rehab specific. It's it's a custom made to each individual. 425 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: So they're going home for rehab and y'all deliver a 426 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: wheelchair to them. 427 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, mostly the long term patients that are staying at 428 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: the facility. 429 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: And is that paid for it? Y'all build medicare or 430 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: how does that work? 431 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 3: Sort of, there's some applied income involved and there is 432 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: uh pass our patients that are involved in that kind 433 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: of thing. But yeah, basically it comes down to the 434 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: state stay funded. 435 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: So do they own the wheelchair at the end of 436 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: the day. 437 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: Yes, sir. So. Basically applied income is basically your social 438 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 3: Security that comes in on the half or on your 439 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: behalf to the facility, and it's basically used as like 440 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: a copay. But you can use that funding for other 441 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: things such as wheelchairs, hearing aids, gents, all of that 442 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. 443 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: Steve, I want you to make as much money as 444 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: you possibly can. Don't think I don't. But it does 445 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: not seem efficient for me that we are selling a 446 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: wheelchair when in many cases, that is a temporary thing. 447 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: Are you saying these people going to be in a 448 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 1: wheelchair for the rest of their lives? 449 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, in many cases, so you can only get 450 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 3: one every five years. And these are not cheap wheelchairs, sir, 451 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: these I mean a wheelchair today you're write age two 452 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars. Specials aren't what I'm doing. I'm 453 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: doing custom chairs. They're anywhere from five thousand to twenty 454 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: five thousand to be fair. 455 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: God. And are these motorized? 456 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: Usually when you get into the fifteen twenty thousand dollar range, yeah, 457 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: they're going to be powerchairs. 458 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: Oh wow? And then what happens when that person dies? 459 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: What is there like a re cycle unit of of 460 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: these wheelchairs? 461 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: Well, if the chairs paid off, it belongs to the family. 462 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: No. 463 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: Is there some sort of pick apart that somebody could 464 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean, is there someplace you can you can sell 465 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: these on a discount or just pawn shop? 466 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: You can. Most of the time, though the facilities will 467 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: donate them back to people who don't have the same 468 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: funding as as some of the other residents. 469 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: Interesting, who makes this wheelchair? 470 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: There's many manufacturers, most of which were up in Canada. 471 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: That since these tarriffs had come in, have come back 472 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: to the United States, but many of the companies are 473 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: out of Canada. There there's several of those, but again 474 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 3: they've kind of come home to give me one brand. 475 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: I just want to know one brand so I can 476 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: drop it into conversation. 477 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: Let's say Broda Seating, for instance, Broda Seating, they're at 478 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: a kitchener Ontario, Okay, but the companies here in the US. 479 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right? So what is your territory? 480 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: You go obviously to Beaumont. 481 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: I go as far east as Beaumont, as far west 482 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: as Columbus, and then all the way out past Huntsville, 483 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 3: and so it's just kind of everywhere. 484 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: Are you span? 485 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 3: I'm sorry? 486 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: Are you Hispanic? 487 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: I did not hear you, sir, I'm sorry? 488 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: Are you Hispanic? No, sir, where did you grow up? 489 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 3: Well? Forgive me, I am a California refugee. Thanks, Dike avenuwsom. 490 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: Okay, how did you end up here? 491 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 3: Well, sir? My dad long story. I'll try and make 492 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: a brief. My dad was an orphan. I ended up 493 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: in the Navy during World War Two. When he got 494 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:59,239 Speaker 3: done with the Navy, ended up in California, raised us 495 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: up there, and then he was actually originally out of 496 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: the Dallas area Fort Worth. So after visiting here a 497 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: few times, I decided to move down here permanently with 498 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 3: my family. 499 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: And what was the turning point for you to get 500 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: off of government benefits, get a job and get to work. 501 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: What was that moment? 502 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: Well, sir, honestly, I was in my early twenties. I 503 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: had a young family, and like John Wayne taught me 504 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: to blow bubbles in his pool, I saw his house. 505 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: I wanted that. I didn't want to be disrespected by 506 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 3: the system. I didn't want people looking down at me 507 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 3: when my mom had to take me to the store 508 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: and pay with food stamps. I didn't want that for 509 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: my family. 510 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, good call, Steve. Thank you for sharing 511 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: your story. Brother. That's just very kind, very enlightening. Actually, 512 00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: it's interesting to get a window into people's life. 513 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 3: M