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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, home of the

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Speaker 1: modern white tail hunter, and now your host, Mark Kenyon.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyan, and today we are joined by David Skinner,

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Speaker 1: Shawn Lucktell, Brennan Nating, Greg Godfrey, and Tony Peterson to

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Speaker 1: discuss their best advice for killing a September white tail.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by First Light, and today we are talking September.

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Speaker 1: We're talking how to master bow hunting. The month of September.

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Speaker 1: September is here. Opening days are kicking off across the country.

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Speaker 1: It is a great time of year. And to help

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Speaker 1: us get ready, I've pulled together with the wire Hunt team,

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Speaker 1: a compilation of some of our very best guests who

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Speaker 1: have talked about September hunting. And this podcast has been

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Speaker 1: running for like seven years, and I know that most

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Speaker 1: of you have not heard those episodes from seven years

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Speaker 1: ago or six years ago or five years ago, where

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Speaker 1: a lot of really good stuff was covered. Maybe I

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Speaker 1: something like an idiot, but the guests sounded good and

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Speaker 1: they had some really helpful things, and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: bring that back and make sure we'd all heard these

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Speaker 1: things and picked up on all these great September tips.

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Speaker 1: So today we're going to hear from alright, so time out.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to get to those conversations quite yet

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Speaker 1: because I need to make an admission. After me and

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Speaker 1: Tony talked about the game plan of having these different

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Speaker 1: people from previous podcasts on to hear about how they

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Speaker 1: hunt September white tails, well, I actually went and started

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Speaker 1: looking back through all of our past episodes. I spent

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Speaker 1: two or three hours listening to archived wire and done

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Speaker 1: episodes trying to find some really good stuff about September

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Speaker 1: white tails. You know what I found. I didn't find crap.

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Speaker 1: I found a very small amount of quality focused content

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Speaker 1: on hunting September deer. So huge overside in my part.

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Speaker 1: I guess I've not been doing a good job of

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Speaker 1: fix that today though, because since I didn't have any

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Speaker 1: old stuff, I actually had to go out and find

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Speaker 1: new people to talk to. So this is fresh, brand

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Speaker 1: new spanking content from four really good deer hunters who

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Speaker 1: are getting it done. As I mentioned Dave Skinner, Shawn Lucktell,

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Speaker 1: Brennan Nading, Greg Godfrey. I all talked to them this

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Speaker 1: week about how they're getting it done in September, and

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Speaker 1: some of these guys are leaving, like as we're hearing this,

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Speaker 1: they are on their way to September hunts of their own.

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Speaker 1: So this is content that is fresh in their mind.

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Speaker 1: These are ideas that they're going to be using right

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Speaker 1: now any day now, and hopefully you can too if

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Speaker 1: you are traveling to somewhere with a September opener, or

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Speaker 1: if you live in one of those states, this is it.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I think you're really going to enjoy what

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Speaker 1: we get into. We've got public land hunters, we've got

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Speaker 1: up some ideas that should help. So with that out

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Speaker 1: of the way, back to me and Tony. But before

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Speaker 1: we get to those guys, I wanted to kind of

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Speaker 1: tee it up with my buddy Tony Peterson, Mr. Foundations.

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Speaker 1: How are you Tony? Um? I couldn't be a better buddy.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about that. It could be Mr Foundations,

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Speaker 1: You've been doing it for three months now, something like that.

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Speaker 1: How do you How do you feel about your Foundation's

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Speaker 1: podcast so far? I feel good, man. I have heard

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Speaker 1: feel you know how this is when you're when you're

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Speaker 1: there's always that unknown of like is this going to resonate?

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Speaker 1: And you know, some me your ideas are good, some

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Speaker 1: going over really well. Like I've I've heard from a

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Speaker 1: Mediator headquarters email and this person had said that they

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Speaker 1: entire Mediator podcast network. So yeah, take that Steve. Can

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Speaker 1: we send that right to Steve. Oh, I made sure

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be in an inbox for sure. Uh. So,

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Speaker 1: don't take that context um too late. So September, when uh,

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Speaker 1: so many things, buddy, but just just a feeling of

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's tossed up between us two. But when

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Speaker 1: ear in every decision in some way, it's food. Right

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Speaker 1: at this time of year, food is king. Um, that's

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Speaker 1: A big time? It's riding a dead program on the food,

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Speaker 1: or I shouldn't say that, riding a dying program on

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Speaker 1: regular show is on every Thursday. So we are just

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Speaker 1: we're giving you more white Tail, no how than you

429
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Speaker 1: could ever ask for. I think and uh hopefully hopefull

430
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Speaker 1: it's gonna help what I think they can just hit

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Speaker 1: that subscribe button and they'll get all of them. That

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Speaker 1: that would be the simple thing to say, you write.

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Speaker 1: So on that note, let's uh, let's quit while we're

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Speaker 1: still ahead on the intro. Let's get into those other

435
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Speaker 1: conversations about September hunting and best of luck to everyone

436
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: out there getting out for early season hunts. Now without

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Speaker 1: further ado we're gonna hear from David's skinner from White

438
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Speaker 1: Tailed Properties. First, all right, Dave, So you're out there

439
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 1: in Kentucky, one of those Midwestern states with an early opener.

440
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: So I know there's a lot of people that you

441
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: spend time with who get out and hunt in September.

442
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: I know some of your clients get out and hunt

443
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: in September. If I were to ask you, what's the

444
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: most common mistake that you see people making in that

445
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: first month of the season, what is it? Cutting in

446
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: the mornings? I think it's the biggest mistake I see

447
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: people making. And uh, I think they are really i'll

448
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: call them fragile at that time. They've been unmolested for

449
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: months for the most part, and it's so much easier

450
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: to slip in in the evening time than it is

451
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: in the morning. And it's so easy when you're hunting.

452
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: Really just a feeding pattern is what you're targeting at

453
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: that time of year, and being on that food are

454
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: are really close to that food is simple in the

455
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: evening time because you know that deer is in a

456
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: spent but at night you have no idea where that

457
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: there is, so slipping in, you know, early morning in

458
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 1: the dark trying to get into your stand is by

459
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: far the easiest way to bump a deer off of

460
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: that pattern and and mess that up for for days,

461
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Speaker 1: if not weeks at a time. Yeah, So what about

462
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: the flip side of that scenario? So you hunt the

463
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: evenings and you said it's you know, it's easy to

464
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: get in for an afternoon hunt, but getting out is

465
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Speaker 1: the challenge. Then what's what's your take on exit strategies

466
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Speaker 1: for evening hunts in September to make sure you're not

467
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: making the same kind of problems just the reverse. So

468
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Speaker 1: I've I've told people before, I've got the secrets killing

469
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Speaker 1: a big deer, and the secret is is pretty simple.

470
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: You gotta get in without him knowing your there, and

471
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: you gotta get out without him going you there if

472
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: you didn't kill him. And those entry next to strategies

473
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: are going to be different for every single property and

474
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Speaker 1: every single scenario. Typically, if I'm on a big deer,

475
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: I've watched him and i know what he does um

476
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: and if he's feeding him, soy being killed. For example,

477
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: he may be out there the well after dark, but

478
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Speaker 1: if I've got him on like a staging food plot

479
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: before he goes into the big act field. I know

480
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Speaker 1: that he typically leaves that food plot or that food

481
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: source before he feeds on out into those bigger agg fields.

482
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Speaker 1: That makes it really easy slip about because I know

483
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Speaker 1: where he is after dark. So if you can identify

484
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: where that there is after dark, yeah, it's it's a

485
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: sketchy it's a sketchy deal. You just gotta figure that out.

486
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Speaker 1: And I don't know that I can offer advice for

487
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: that because every scenario is different. Um, I don't know

488
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Speaker 1: if that's a good answer or not, but it would

489
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: be really hard to nail something down other than just

490
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: knowing where that deer he is, is he leaving that area,

491
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: is he's feeding on across the field. Will give you

492
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: a really good example of this um so farm that

493
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: we've got over to western Kentucky, where our lodge says

494
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Speaker 1: there's hundred acre being filled. That's probably only about sixty

495
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: acres being filled right in front of the lodge, and

496
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: we set on the front porch and watch those deer

497
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: as they come out in the bean field, and where

498
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: we hunt them is literally right in front of the lodge.

499
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,239
Speaker 1: And if you watch white Tiled properties television has been

500
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Speaker 1: several bucks killed in Kentucky. We call it the Kentucky

501
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: buck Factory. Been several bucks killed in that being filled

502
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: right there in front of the lodge. What those deer

503
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 1: do when they come out, they feed in the beans

504
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Speaker 1: and then they just they just keep going, They keep

505
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Speaker 1: traveling away from that area. But we can catch them

506
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: out there, and then you just set tight in that

507
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: line until those deer that said, well out of the

508
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: way and you can slip right out. What you don't

509
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: want to do is try to get out of that

510
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 1: vine while the deer is still right there in the field,

511
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: because you're gonna blow him out. Yeah. Now, what's your

512
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Speaker 1: take on vehicles? So if you're in a spot where

513
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Speaker 1: for whatever he and you can't get out, well, I

514
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: know a lot of people will turn to using someone

515
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: picking them up on an a t V or you

516
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: TV or coming with a pickup. Uh, do you think

517
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: that works? Or you still screwing the poosh a little bit?

518
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: You know that's a that's a highly contested debate around

519
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: hunting camp Um. I don't know that there's a right

520
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: or wrong answer. It's kind of like making a mocks

521
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: great VP entity. But there's some kind of kind of sense.

522
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: I think it can all work. At times. We've done

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00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: it with great success, you know, driving in with a

524
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: pickup truck and blowing those deer out. I feel a

525
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: lot better about that than I do walking out and

526
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: having deer since me and blowout. I don't think they're

527
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: nearly as threatened by that truck as they are our

528
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: a t V or whatever as they are personal walking

529
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: across that field. So I think if you've got to

530
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: do that, doing it with a vehicle would be the

531
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: preferred method in my opinion. Yeah, okay, so let's let's

532
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: rewind a little bit because we're talking to exit, but

533
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: I want to I want to get a better sense

534
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: of of the entire setup, like like the perfect setup.

535
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: Let's say let's just say you're only hunt for the

536
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: entire year that you would get this year was going

537
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: to be, you know, that first few days of September.

538
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: That's all you get on this year. And you knew

539
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: this starting in February of the year, so you've got

540
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: the whole spring and summer to prepare for this situation.

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Speaker 1: Tell me, what would you do to create the perfect

542
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: September set up for those first few days of the season. UM,

543
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: paint me the picture of how you would change habitat

544
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: or how you would set up a blind or a

545
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: tree stand, and what would you plant or not plant?

546
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: What what would you do to paint this perfect picture?

547
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 1: So no one where that deer is that or he's

548
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: spending his time to daytime. That's that's that's vital to

549
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: the situation. You just can't guess. You've got to have

550
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: a pretty good understanding of where he's coming from. And

551
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm assuming as a deer, I have history with multiple years,

552
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: So I'm going to have that past history to know

553
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: what kind of travel er else he's taken to and

554
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: from a feeding area and from his betting area where

555
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: he's betted at. UM. Screening cover was one of the

556
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: first things that popped in my mind. If I've got

557
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: that long to plan, and I'm I'm really putting forth

558
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: und percent effort to kill that deer in early September, UM,

559
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have some good screening cover and allow me

560
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: to get in and out of that of that area. UM.

561
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: And hunting the right wind is absolute revital uh. And

562
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 1: I had a pretty similar situation of this a few

563
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: years ago. It wasn't that I was limited to hunting September,

564
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: but I knew exactly where this deal was betted. I

565
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: knew exactly where he was feeding at almost every single day,

566
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: probably six out of seven days. And as far as

567
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: I was concerned, all I needed was the right wind,

568
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: and this deer was dead and opening day I needed

569
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: a northwest wind and open Day come around, and we

570
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: had like seven days of east winds, and I sat

571
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: at home twiddling my thumbs because the scenario I had

572
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: created depended so much on that west wind that we

573
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: usually get, and here we have a week of east winds.

574
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: It just blew my plan all the pieces. Had I

575
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: really put forth the effort, I could have designed a

576
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: a scenario where I could have got into my stand

577
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: would have been marginal, but there was a way that

578
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: I could have gotten in my stand with some screening

579
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: cover with that with that east wind. Um. What's crazy

580
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: is on the seventh day, when I finally got in

581
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: that stand, the deer was there, but he just didn't

582
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: get a shot and I didn't bump him. He disappeared,

583
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: But evening, you know, went the way I expected him to,

584
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: and he never showed back up at that spot. I

585
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: don't think it was. I don't think it was something

586
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: I did. I think it was just that pattern was over.

587
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 1: And that's why that window is a window is so

588
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: short and in early September to catch them on my

589
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: feeding pattern. Um, especially when you're outing soybeans. When do

590
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: you see that change there in Kentucky? It really depends.

591
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: It depends on the variety of soybeans planted more than anything. Uh.

592
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: It also can depend greatly on the acorns. Why why

593
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: acorns can drop sometimes in pretty pretty early in the

594
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: month of September, and all bets are off if you

595
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: get if you've got a real heavy acorn crop, which

596
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: we get about every other year, you can almost time it,

597
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: um uh, probably within ninety percent accuracy. You can you know,

598
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: predict what's gonna be a heavy acorn year based on

599
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: what happened the year before. Um. So, if those acorns

600
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: happen to drop early, which they can and they have done,

601
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: all bets are off. Man, he's not gonna be in

602
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: that soil of being filled. I don't know. I don't

603
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: care how bright green they are. And beans, you know,

604
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: and I'm not a farmer by any means, but the

605
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: way I understand it, beans have different maturity dates UM

606
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: and the photo period affects when they turn and and change,

607
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: and when we start seeing the first hints of yellow

608
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: on those beings, the bucks lay off of them, they're

609
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: on to some other. That's typically what it is. So

610
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: it really depends on that specific being filled. Where I

611
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: hunt at, we get um a lot of farmers that

612
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: will double crop their beings so that they plant winter week.

613
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: It'll be they'll plant corn. When they harvest the corn,

614
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: they'll come back in and they'll plant week for the winter,

615
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: and then they harvest that the next summer, and then

616
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: they drill beans into that And that is the prime

617
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: opportunity to kill a buck on the in salvet because

618
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: those beans will not start turning until the second or

619
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: third week of September sometimes, So that's the opportunity you're

620
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: looking at. So if they planted them beans, you know,

621
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: in in early late April, early May, you can just

622
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 1: hang up killing a buck in September on that being

623
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: so it's not gonna happen. Start looking for another bean field.

624
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: What do you do in those years when you do

625
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: have that bumper white oak crop acorns those are all

626
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: over the place, They're not hitting your big open food

627
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: sources like you thought, Uh do you do you tear

628
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: in there into the timber and try to get after him?

629
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: Or do you then say, all right, it's just not

630
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: gonna happen early season. I'm gonna wait till there's something

631
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: else I can get a better handle on. What do

632
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: you think if I if I were a college football fan,

633
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: I watching college football, I'm not um uh so uh

634
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: in all seriousness, man, I'd never have been a good

635
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: acorn hunter. When there's a bump acrop acorns, there are

636
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: so many it is it is a challenge to figure

637
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: out where those deer are gonna be. And it's a challenge,

638
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, here and all the time. And I would

639
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: I would rather not have acorns personally, um than than

640
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: have a bumper crop. It's very great for the deer,

641
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: I guess, but it's not good for a deer hunter

642
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: because when there's foods literally laying everywhere, how do you

643
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: how do you how do you figure that out? I haven't.

644
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to. And I hear people say you, oh,

645
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: you got to find the trees that they like the most. Well,

646
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, our our our hardwood forest. I don't want

647
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: know if I want to use the word predominant, but

648
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: that we have a lot of white oak here. So

649
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: on those heavy years, man, there's just literally you trip

650
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: over it. I've been sending into the deer stand for

651
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 1: the third fourth week in September, you know, thinking I'm

652
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: gonna get a buck, you know, early on, and it

653
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: sounds like it sounds like it's raining in the woods.

654
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: Acorns is just coming down everywhere, and it's it's like

655
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: as early on it's probably um hunting with less strategy

656
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: back then. But seriously, I just find something else to do.

657
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not getting there and blow that

658
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: deer out maybe or or make a make a mistake.

659
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: I'd rather just concentrate my efforts. Then, you know, I

660
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: started looking for that late October pre rut type scenario

661
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: or or the rut is what I started looking at. IM.

662
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: Sure I stopped an it's gonna set well with a

663
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: lot of people, but that's that's really the way I

664
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: look at it. So you mentioned, of course acorn is

665
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: being a challenge at times. Uh. You mentioned beans being

666
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: something you can really key in on. Uh. For people

667
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: that don't have one of those food sources, are there

668
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: any other September foods that you find particularly worth taking

669
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: a look at and try and get on so natural foods,

670
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, there are some things that you can look at.

671
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: I pointed out quite frequently when I'm riding around on

672
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: a buggy with who do you think, Kentucky. This may

673
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: not hold hold true other places, but we've got a

674
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: weed here called jewel weed. It's it's pretty common, I

675
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: think over a large part of the United States. It's

676
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: just a wild native plant that that grows go little orange,

677
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 1: pretty little orange gloom on it. And there's something about

678
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: that plant. I've seen that time and time again, and

679
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: that right around when our season opens, something happens to

680
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: that plant and it turns into like deer candy. One

681
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: day it'll be it'll just be a plant there, and

682
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: then the next day it's it's mowed down to there

683
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: and it looks like someone too with a weed whacker.

684
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: I've seen that time and time again. I've never taken

685
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: the opportunity to try to key in on that, but

686
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: it's something I've noticed, you know, year any year out

687
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: on certain farms and in certain areas. Don't know if

688
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: that holds true everywhere, but it's definitely something worth worth

689
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: maybe exploring for Simmons as one. I remember a hunt

690
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: years ago. Um, I've got had, I don't have permission

691
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: to hunt the property anymore. But there was only a

692
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: few per symmetries on. There was one as huge. It

693
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: was as a big around as my It was as

694
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: big around as my twenty year old waste, not my

695
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: forty six year old wage. Um. But anyway, it's the big,

696
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: big per Simmon. And it was loaded this one particular

697
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: year and I went in and even time it was

698
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: about I don't know, second third week of September. This

699
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: was pretty early in my in my bow hunting career.

700
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: I think I had a couple of bucks under my belt,

701
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: but I was I was the guy that was holding

702
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: out for a bigger deer pretty early. And and I

703
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: remember passing on a couple of nice bucks under that persymmetry.

704
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: And uh, that's that that food sources always stuck out

705
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: in my head. I've never shot a buck out of symmetry,

706
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: but it's definitely one of those natural food sources that

707
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: they are going to key in on that time of year.

708
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: And then there's food plots, man, I love food plots. Um,

709
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's a lot of different sea varieties.

710
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: And again what I'm gonna say may not work in

711
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: your area, but here in Kentucky where I'm at, I

712
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: love diicon Radish ground ogg four dradishes of name brand.

713
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: But um, they're the big, the big long green tubers

714
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: that they come out of the ground. They don't have

715
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: to get a frost on them for them to be attractive.

716
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: And for that September and October type brain, there is

717
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: attractive of a food plot planning, as I have found.

718
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: And I always mixing some some cereal, right our cereal

719
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: grain rather wheat roads, and that's really attractive at that

720
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: time as well. So um, those are just a few

721
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: few options. I would say, what about the second part

722
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: of the equation you mentioned when we were painting the

723
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: ideal scenario, if you were trying to kill that buck

724
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: in September, you had to know where he was betted? Where,

725
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: what kind of places? What's the situation that's ideal for

726
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: a buck betting kind of area in September Because in

727
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: some some places I've seen the bet in very different

728
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: places in September than they would in November, let's say,

729
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: or December. What's that September betting looking like for you

730
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: that people could think about when they're trying to key

731
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: in and this time of year and figure out where

732
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: are these bucks starting from? Yeah, Um, here's here's what

733
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: I here's what I think is true. And and it's

734
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: gonna vary again on your topography and and the vegetation

735
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: types and and and that sort of thing. But what

736
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: I have noticed. Okay, so here in September in Kentucky

737
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: buck on the third day of the season few years ago,

738
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: it was ninety six degrees UM that day when I

739
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: shot that there, that's flipping hot. Man, I was miserable.

740
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: And I can promise you those there are just as

741
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: miserable as you are. You know, they live in those conditions,

742
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: but it's not fun. So they're looking for something to

743
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: to protect them from the sun, to protect them from

744
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: the heat. Um. And and the areas that jump out

745
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: at me are are low lying creek beds and and

746
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: things like that. Um, where they can they can get

747
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: a few degrees cooler, versus you know, where they're not

748
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: going to be bedded at is out in the middle

749
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: of the CRP field. Um. I don't think that's happening

750
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: a whole lot of September, you know what I'm saying.

751
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: So you can kind of eliminate that um and you

752
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: look for shaded areas, you know, cedar thickets are are

753
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: areas that that are typically a little bit cooler than

754
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: they are in more open hardwood type tember um and

755
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: you know, deep valleys, deep drawls, ravines, that sort of thing.

756
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: I think are um some areas that you can look for.

757
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: But man, it's just it depends on the buck, you know.

758
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: And I just told you that they won't be out

759
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: in those CRP fields. And I gotta re dig on

760
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: that on that comment, because the buck I told you

761
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: about earlier than I had him all planned out, that's

762
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: exactly where he was, Betty. But that was such a

763
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: such a unique situation. I think it just depends on

764
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: the deer um, you know. But typically I think of

765
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: those areas that where the temperature is gonna be just

766
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: a little bit cooler um, and uh, maybe they have

767
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: just a little more protection from from the heat and

768
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: the elements. Yeah, you mentioned that the low lying creek bed,

769
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: which then brought to mine just water as a factor

770
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: in September, And exactly how does water, ever, factor into

771
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: your September huns. You know, good question. Um, I've never

772
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: I've never keyed in on that. But i will tell

773
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: you that my buddy Todd Big to be out in

774
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: Kansas key's in on every year and he has great

775
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: success using water tanks UM to draw those theory and

776
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: no different than a lot of guys may use that,

777
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: put out a feeder or whatever, UM water tanks UM

778
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: something more you can provide them with. I have enough

779
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: water around, it's really hard to kind of key in

780
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: on it. Most of the properties that hunt have natural

781
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: water sources. That's been hard to key in on it.

782
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: But if you're in an arid area or your property

783
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: doesn't have water by all means, figure out a way

784
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: to get some water, because that could be huge. But

785
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: I've not ever had the opportunity to really make that

786
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: a part of UM. And when I'm you know, when

787
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm managing habitat, I'm installing water near food sources. Why

788
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: because I know they're gonna want that food source, They're

789
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: gonna want that water. If I could put everything they

790
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: want in one area, I feel like I've you know,

791
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: within reason, I feel like I've accomplished something, and I

792
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: just up my odds of being that there there in daylight. Yeah, yeah,

793
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Uh, well, I want to wrap it

794
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: up with this one. Uh, what do you think is

795
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: worse when hunting in September for you in Kentucky at least?

796
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: Is it the bugs or is it the heat? And

797
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: whichever when you pick, how do you deal with it? Um?

798
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the heat I have hunted where I

799
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: had mosquito is pretty bad. Um and the little fighting,

800
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: fighting midges. But my thermocell is always with me, So

801
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: that's a that's a pretty easy solution to to the bugs.

802
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: The heat, there's no The heat, by far at is

803
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: worse and there is no there is no solution, but

804
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: you will see me. We hunt out a banks blinds

805
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: a lot um. We both hunt out of them. It's

806
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: it's they're so good at containing your scent. And I

807
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: know there's no ways you can't beat a deer's nose,

808
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: but anything you can do to help, I try to

809
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: do it. We hunt out of those blinds a lot,

810
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: and it is it is miserable. If it's ninety six

811
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: greets outside, it's a hundred and forty inside that blind

812
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: it's a sauna. So I shot a buck a few

813
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: years ago down in Georgia. UM at the Gopher plantation.

814
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: It was. It was an invite hunt with with UM

815
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: Big Deer TV. Big Deer TV. I think I can't

816
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: think of the hosts name right off, but anyway, UM,

817
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: they put me on television walking into my blind with

818
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: my LA crossed boots on and shorts and a T shirt.

819
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: That's the way I hunt it all evening and try

820
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: to beat that summer heat. But I was gonna blind,

821
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 1: you know, and it worked worked out great. Um. I've

822
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: got a little ry b one plus battery operated fan

823
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: that I put in those blinds with me. Um and

824
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: call me a wis if you want, but it helps. UM.

825
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: But in a deer stand man, I just you know what.

826
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: One of the things I've done year in a year

827
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: out is these little uh scent wipes. I don't use

828
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: them because I feel like they killed the scent. But

829
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: they're wet, they're moist, even baby wife sun centered baby wipes.

830
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: I'll take them in a tree with me where where

831
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: a T shirt. I'll changed shirts. I'll put that sweaty

832
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: shirt into a into a gallon zip lock bags. Stuff

833
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: that down in my backpack. And then I'll just kind

834
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: of bathe in that tree stand with with those cool

835
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: wet wipes to get trying to get as much as

836
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: a scent off of me. And once I'm not walking,

837
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, I cooled out a little bit, and that

838
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: that moisture evaporating will cool you down. That I put

839
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: my hunt shirt back on and are a hunting shirt on,

840
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: you know, some sort of camouflage shirt, lightweight and um,

841
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: and and get back to hunting. But to be honest,

842
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: I killed a beautiful velvet buck a few years ago

843
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,959
Speaker 1: and that's probably that. Probably that was my retirement guest

844
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: to September bow hunting. It is so hot and miserable.

845
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'll never do it. If I had

846
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: a two deer in full velvet, you know, I'm I'm

847
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: definitely gonna get out to hunting. But I'm done hunting

848
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: on forties and one fifties and September. I can tell

849
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: you that. Um, it's just it's just miserable. It's no

850
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: way to beat the eat. There's no way. I will

851
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: tell you this though. If you can catch I'll end

852
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 1: on this. Uh, if you can catch a cold front

853
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: in September, it can be. It could be magical. And

854
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: I'll tell this real quick story. A few years ago, Um,

855
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: the farmer had the farmer where I was hunting, had

856
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: had started cutting some some corn. I don't know what happened.

857
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: It was combined, broken or whatever, but he got about

858
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: six or eight acres of this hundred acre cornfield cut

859
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: right in the corner of the field. And uh, it

860
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: left a lot of standing corn up. And the wind

861
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: was wrong for me to hunt, my dear stands, but

862
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: it was perfect for me to slip in there and

863
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: set all five gallon bucket in that corn field right

864
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: on the edge of where it had been harvested. And

865
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday, the opening weekend, it was ninety six

866
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: degrees and I'm looking at the weather and on on

867
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: Sunday night we had this cold front blow end and

868
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: it went from ninety six to sixty four overnight. It

869
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: was spitting the rain, it was misty. It just felt

870
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: like fall, you know. It was perfect. And I got

871
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: in there on my bucket and there was there was

872
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: a couple of three year old ten pointers out there

873
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: chasing those like it was November. It's the craziest thing

874
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And Um, I whip the shot at

875
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: one of them about twenty five yards, had hit the

876
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: hit the stalk of corn, and sent my ral sailing,

877
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, thirty yards out of out of range. But

878
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: it was a pretty magical, pretty magical weekend. So if

879
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: we can catch one of those weekends this September, I'll

880
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: be I'll be in the woods, you know, because those

881
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: deer will will feed early on those cool, those cool evenings.

882
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: It's just a round are playing the kid. Yeah, I'm

883
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: hoping and praying for one of those two days. So

884
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking a time and good luck this season. Hey,

885
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: thanks Mark, You'll have to do one al right. Next up,

886
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from Greg Godfrey from Tethered Nation. Alright, Greg,

887
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: we're talking September. And when I say September white tail hunting,

888
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: what's the most important thing, Like, what's the thing that

889
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: pops up in your mind? Is the top headline when

890
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: it comes to how you're gonna kill a bucket this time,

891
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: it's got to be food. I mean, at this point

892
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: in time, the bucks are still grouped up in their

893
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: bachelor groups. They're not worried about seeking does They're they're

894
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: not worried about their peck in order just yet, especially

895
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: early September when they're still in velvet. So it's all

896
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: about the food. My favorite food source this time of

897
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: year is beans. If you're somewhere where there are beans,

898
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: it's phenomenal. Where I live in Georgia, we don't have

899
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: any egg it's all. It's all swamp country. And at

900
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: that point I really folk us on per Simmons, the

901
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: dear love per simmons. Early they seek them out the palm,

902
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: out of the ground. They'll walk along ways to get them.

903
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: But up in agg country really focus on beans. What

904
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: about a situation down in the south of US persimmons? Um,

905
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: I've never hunted anywhere that I came across them, but

906
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: I know lots of times I find like an isolated

907
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: apple tree or something up here in Michigan. That's that's

908
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: like the spot to be with per Simmons. Do you

909
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: find them in that kind of situation where there's there's

910
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: one and that's the obvious one, or are there places

911
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: where there's a whole bunch and they're spread around and

912
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: your face with this dilemma, like how do you pick

913
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: the right food on an early season hunt? With mask

914
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: in mind. Um, you know what's what's your thought prices

915
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: when it comes to trying to pick the right tree

916
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: or the right patch, I would say it's real similar

917
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: to what you face up in Michigan. I used to

918
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: when I was an active duty. I was stationed at

919
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: four Drum, New York, and there were a lot of

920
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: wild apple trees and a lot of old farm steads,

921
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: and it was kind of the same way I hunted

922
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: per Simmons in the South. I would hunt those apple

923
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: trees probably the same tactic that you use mark. If

924
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: you find one alone next to thick security cover, that's

925
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: gonna be just a home run. But a lot of

926
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: times the per Simmons down here, it will be the

927
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: same way you'll find one, and it's just full of fruit.

928
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: I've I've encountered him where the branches were hanging. There

929
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: was so full of fruit that it was just hanging

930
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: down almost touching the ground. And a persymmetry is really tall.

931
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: So a lot of times that's how you can even

932
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: spot them, because they'll be up above the rest of

933
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: the canopy. And uh so a lot of times the

934
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: fruits weigh up high. But yeah, if you can find

935
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: a loan per symmetry, next to thick cover, next to swamp,

936
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: next to bedding, next to something like that, that's going

937
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: to be a home run. Yeah, that sounds that sounds

938
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: like a nice set up. Now, now back to agg

939
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: country then, I know you're heading the North Dakota soon

940
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: where you've got some of that agg. I'm thinking it's

941
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: public land and a lot of people when they go

942
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: on these traveling September hunts, like you're gonna do there

943
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: heading to a place that they don't know terribly well,

944
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: maybe they've never been there before and they've got a

945
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: short amount of time. And so again the same question

946
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: like finding the right food. I know that beings are important, right,

947
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: but want to show up and there's thousands of acres

948
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: of beings on all sorts of different parts of the state,

949
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: and I've got multiple public options that can look at.

950
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: How do you go about narrowing down like what's the

951
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: right being field to be close to, what's the right

952
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: spot to start on my September short, you know week trip.

953
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: So for me, the number one factor almost always in

954
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: any any phase of deer season, whether it be the rut,

955
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: early season, late season, even if I'm hunting food or

956
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: betting or whatever. The next the next factor is almost

957
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: always pressure. So you're right in North Dakota. There's billions

958
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: of beans there, literally everywhere, and what sets one part

959
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: one apart from the next can be difficult. But if

960
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: you can find one that it's hard to access, maybe

961
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: it's a long walk, maybe you have to scale a

962
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: creek cliff or something, or you have to get in

963
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: a boat or put your waiters on and cross some water.

964
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: Any sort of obstacle that will keep hunters away and

965
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: make the pressure just marginally lower is where I have

966
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: had the best success. It's it doesn't seem to be

967
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: the magic bullet, if there even is such a thing

968
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: in white tail hunting, But if you can find the food,

969
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: and then you can find the food that's less pressured,

970
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: it would whatever obstacle it is, it's keeping hunters out

971
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: that is the next the next best thing for me, Yeah,

972
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: speak on that pressure. Here's something that I that I

973
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: feel like I've kind of anecdotally noticed. I wonder if

974
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: this is something you've seen. It seems that in you know,

975
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 1: late October, November or December, when all the leaf covers down,

976
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: it's easier for other hunters to go deep because it's

977
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: just easier to walk, it's not as uncomfortable. You can

978
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: see farther, so you can see, oh wow, there's this

979
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: other thing fo yards down the way. I'll keep going

980
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: to get there. But when you get to September, when

981
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: it's a jungle in certain places, it seems like people

982
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: just aren't as willing to push through all that jungle

983
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: cover because it's just like I said, uncomfortable, thorny, pokey, leafy, wet, humid,

984
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: uh and you can't see anything, so you don't know

985
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: what is ahead of you. And so so it seems

986
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: like on average, maybe the pressure doesn't push in as

987
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: far in these early September hunts because of that. Maybe

988
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: is that is there anything to that? Have you seen that?

989
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: And that maybe it opens up more of that far

990
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: away stuff on these early September hunts, then you might

991
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: be able to take advantage of November when everyone's pushing in.

992
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: I would completely agree, because it doesn't to me If

993
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: I have to walk through briars and nasty stuff and

994
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: get cut up and get wet and gross, yeah, I

995
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: don't want to do it either. So in Georgia, if

996
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest, I'm probably not gonna do it.

997
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna grab a boat and I'm gonna go

998
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: around the river and I'm gonna find a spot that

999
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: is really easy for me to get to us in

1000
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: a creative access like a boat. But then again, in Georgia,

1001
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: where I hunt in the swamps, there's really not a

1002
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: lot of trophy potential, so it's kind of like, you know,

1003
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: is the juice worth to squeeze? And a mature deer

1004
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: will be a hundred thirty pounds, So it's a lot

1005
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: different when I'm up in North Dakota and I know that,

1006
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, a hundred and a big deer. I you know,

1007
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: score isn't really that important to me. But a big

1008
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: trophy animal that is willing to go on my wall,

1009
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: that is something that is realistic, So it makes it

1010
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: a little bit easier for me. But I think you

1011
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head this the early season.

1012
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: I think people get complacent too. I know I do.

1013
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: I guess I can speak for me. I'm like, oh,

1014
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: it's the first week of September. The hunting is not

1015
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: even really that good yet. You know, I gotta wait

1016
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: till the first week in November, then I'm really going hard.

1017
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: So I think it's also easier to get complacent early

1018
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: in the season because you know, you have quote the

1019
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: best hunting is still yet to come. So let's break

1020
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: down an example. You killed a don nice buck in

1021
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: September last year, right, and it was kind of a

1022
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: situation like we're discussing here, can can you correct me

1023
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: if I've got anything wrong there? And then lay that

1024
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: out a little bit more and you know you didn't

1025
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: have to push in too far. I don't think on

1026
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: that hunt, how did that work out? That hunt? I

1027
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: killed that buck. Um. I didn't score it, so I

1028
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: don't know what it scored, but just for for reference,

1029
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: it's probably you know, a mid one thirties nine point um.

1030
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: But he was an absolute giant deer. Everyone we walked

1031
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: on the deer after I killed it, everyone was like,

1032
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: holy crap, that thing is a horse. He had to

1033
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: be three hundred pounds. I mean, he was a giant um.

1034
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: But it's probably not three pounds at this point in time,

1035
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: but one of those deer that would have been three

1036
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: hundred pounds if if that makes sense, he was longer

1037
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: than me. There's a picture of I I'm a short guy,

1038
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: but still I laid down next to the deer after

1039
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: we took the gripping grand photos and the deer was

1040
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: longer than me. Um, but yeah, you you pretty much

1041
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: nailed it. That was Uh, that was the North Dakota

1042
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: public land hunt. We It was the second or I

1043
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: think the second to last day of the hunt. Hadn't

1044
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: had a whole lot of success. I had had one

1045
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: other opportunity at a mature buck, he just didn't come

1046
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: in close enough. It was a big buck. Um. And

1047
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: then we found this little kind of I don't necessarily

1048
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: want to say it was an overlooked peace but the

1049
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: way we accessed it was unusual. So in North Dakota,

1050
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: the laws are if private land isn't posted accordingly, then

1051
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: you can you can hunt that land, and you can

1052
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: access that land as long as you follow us a

1053
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: set of rules that that they have. Now they've they've

1054
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: changed that up a little bit for the season, but

1055
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: last year it was completely illegal, and so we accessed

1056
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: through a private piece that wasn't posted. They gave us

1057
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: access to a portion of the public that would have

1058
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: been really, really difficult to get to with the traditional

1059
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: parking lot access. So I think that's really where we

1060
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: killed the buck. Was thinking through it creatively and coming

1061
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: at it from a way that other hunters just weren't

1062
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: thinking about. And I could actually see my truck. I

1063
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: was in the tree and my truck was maybe forty

1064
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: yards from from me. I mean I could literally see

1065
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: the truck. And the way it happened. We had planned

1066
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: to walk down and hunt this oxbow in a river

1067
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: afternoon hunt and it was really thick, so we figured

1068
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: there'd be bucks betting in there, so we were gonna

1069
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: hunt the edge of the of the betting and try

1070
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: to catch them coming out to the agg fields. Well,

1071
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: we walked twenty yards in from the private land and

1072
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: there was just sign everywhere. I'm talking tracks and and

1073
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: fresh droppings and rubs, and this is the first week

1074
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 1: of September, and I'm like, holy crap. I was hunting

1075
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: with Carl, the Michael Jordan of Sewing from Tethered and

1076
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: and both he and I kind of looked at each

1077
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: other and we so had, you know, a three quarter

1078
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: of them mile walk ahead of us, and we were like,

1079
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: should we really hunt right here right next to the truck?

1080
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, all the sign was there if we had

1081
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: found this spot three quarters of a mile deep in

1082
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: the public Every hunter in America would have set up

1083
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 1: on this sign. It was that fresh and that good.

1084
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: But it was just so close to the edge that

1085
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: we thought, now, this is this for real, and you know,

1086
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: we we we went ahead and followed our gut and

1087
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: we set up right there twenty yards in the woods,

1088
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: forty yards from my truck. I could see the truck

1089
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: and we had uh six bucks in total come in

1090
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: on us and two shooters, and I just was fortunate

1091
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: to get the biggest one out of the whole bunch.

1092
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: It was incredible. Uh So, here's a question. A lot

1093
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: of folks, when they talked September, especially folks are hunting

1094
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: private land, really talk about being really selective with when

1095
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: you hunt, writing for the waiting for the perfect conditions,

1096
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: and keeping tabs on the buck and when they you know,

1097
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: on opening night, if they're moving in daylight, they're going

1098
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: for the strike. But if it's you know, not the

1099
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: right wind or not the right weather, they're gonna wait.

1100
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: That's you know, a tactic or general approach that a

1101
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: lot of people take on the flip side when you're

1102
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: on a public land hunt. Like this. My assumption is

1103
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: that you're saying, forget about all that stuff. I've got

1104
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: five days, I got a hunt. Um, is there any

1105
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: way that wind? I mean wind obviously, But whether does

1106
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: weather impact what you're doing at all? Do you get

1107
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: more aggressive when you've got those great cold fronts or

1108
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: you're just going four balls to the wall the whole time? Well?

1109
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: I think, I mean you pretty much laid it out

1110
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 1: when you're on a when you're taking time off work,

1111
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: you've got vacation days you're using, and and you've only

1112
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: got you know, five six seven days to hunt, I mean,

1113
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: you're pretty much gonna go ball to the wall. I

1114
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: don't I don't really see anywhere around it, especially if

1115
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: it's not your home turf and you're not too worried

1116
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: about buggering up a deer. Um. I know me personally,

1117
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: that's what That's what I've done on my early September hunts,

1118
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: which I've really only done a couple because I've I've

1119
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: only really ever had a chance to do it a

1120
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: couple of times. But yeah, there was there was not

1121
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: really any waiting around for a cold front or the

1122
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: right perfect scenario, just because this we're limited by time. Now,

1123
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: if I lived in ad country and I had access

1124
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: to maybe some private land, and I think I probably

1125
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: would do that. I think that would be a way

1126
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: more precise way of doing it, to to surgically pick

1127
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: up part your area and really hunt your trail cams

1128
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: and really understand how the deer moving and then moving

1129
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: for the kill. Um. One of my hunting heroes, John Eberhart,

1130
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: that's exactly how he does it. Another guy, Andy May,

1131
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: that's exactly how he does it. I've seen him do it.

1132
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: And those guys are killers. And if I had that opportunity,

1133
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: that's probably the tactic that I would use. But I mean,

1134
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: I live in Georgia and I drove twenty six hours

1135
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: to hunt North Dakota, So I'm not gonna sit out

1136
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: just because it's hot. Yeah. So speaking of hot, let's

1137
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: wrap it up with this one. Most people would look

1138
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: at September hunts, whether they're in Georgia or North Dakota

1139
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: or Kentucky or parts in between, a lot of these

1140
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: early September openers, and they're thinking it kind of sounds

1141
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: miserable if it comes to the heat or the bugs,

1142
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: mosquitoes or ticks, stuff like that. Do you have a

1143
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: trick to dealing with either one of those things? Anything

1144
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: to help deal with the discomforts of September Hunter Well, so,

1145
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean thermal cells. I think anybody in the South,

1146
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: probably nationwide knows about their m sells. Thermal cells work

1147
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: down here. I take a thermo cell with me in

1148
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: Georgia pretty much through November, you know, certain certain years,

1149
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: So I absolutely believe in a thermo cell. The other

1150
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: thing is lighter weight gear. You know, there's lots of

1151
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: good tree stands out there and other saddle systems out

1152
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: there that can lighten your loads significantly, and the fewer

1153
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: pounds that are on your back, the less you're gonna sweat,

1154
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: the more comfortable it's gonna be once you're climbing the tree.

1155
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: So I would say gear probably makes a big difference.

1156
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: And also clothing. I'm a big fan of the Marino

1157
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: wool like you can find in First Light and some

1158
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: other brands out there. There's lots of places you can

1159
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: get Marino um. But that's a big, big difference maker

1160
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: to me because it it wicks the sweat away, it

1161
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: cools you off. So yeah, I would say that's it.

1162
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: But mostly it's just For me, it's just Grin and

1163
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: Barrett and uh. If I'm honest, I don't grin Embarratt

1164
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: too much down here in Georgia. I don't really get

1165
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: started until like mid October when it cools off a

1166
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 1: little bit, just because I'm a baby when it. When

1167
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: it comes to Georgia hunting, it can be Uh, it

1168
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: can be tough. Even the hot days in Michigan and

1169
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: October one, I don't I can't imagine early September or

1170
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: mid September and Georgia. So Greg, this is perfect. I

1171
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I can't wait to hear how the September

1172
00:59:55,040 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: North Dakota hunt goes forth. Thanks Mark. Alright, moving on,

1173
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: let's get in it with Sean Lucktell from Heartland bow Hunter. Alright, Sean,

1174
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: when you think of September bow hunting, what's the first

1175
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: thing that comes to mind when you're thinking white tails

1176
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: in September? I would say the first thing that comes

1177
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: to mind to me is is a cold front on

1178
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: on a green some sort of green food plot. And

1179
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: I have that scenario. You can usually count on it

1180
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: being pretty good. When you say green food plot, Like,

1181
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: what's your ideal early season September green food plot. I mean,

1182
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of different green options out there. If

1183
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: you could pick your your spot, what would it be?

1184
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: You know, I go back and forth between Braska's and

1185
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: clover U. I used to not be a huge believer

1186
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: in Clover and until we started planning it more often,

1187
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 1: and each year I become more confident in it. So

1188
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: I can't say one or the other. But it just

1189
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: depends on what is showing up on the trail cameras

1190
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: on on either one of those plots. But if I

1191
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: absolutely had to choose one or the other, I'm actually

1192
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: leaning more towards Clover now, being that that green food

1193
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: source because of the tonnage that it puts on the

1194
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: fact that it can just continually browsed on some browse

1195
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: pressure and and come back and provide more food, whereas

1196
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: which your brasska blends um that tends to get eaten

1197
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: down and it it's not gonna come back once they've

1198
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: eaten it down. Yeah. So you know a lot of

1199
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: people talk about braska Is being a late season thing

1200
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,919
Speaker 1: when supposedly they get more sugary, And then of course

1201
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: there's the balls and stuff. Are there any particular brass

1202
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: because that you find are that early season attraction or

1203
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: you're finding just about anything author that they'll start hitting

1204
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: those greens earlier than maybe some people expect. Yeah, I

1205
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: would say that having radishes blended in with with your

1206
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: turn ups tends to help bring the deer in earlier on.

1207
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: They seem to focus more on radishes. I've I've done

1208
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: them separately and that works as well as long as

1209
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: you have a big enough radish plot. But I've had

1210
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: I'd say the majority of our plots are between a

1211
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: half acre or two an acre, and if it's just

1212
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: strictly radishes, they'll wipe the radishes out early on. I

1213
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: mean at least on our farm where we have a

1214
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: little bit higher deer gear pressure and larger population. Gotcha.

1215
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: So what about on one of these spots if you

1216
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: had to kind of map out the ideal set up?

1217
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 1: So I know you mentioned you want a cold front,

1218
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: you want the green food source, so it's a clover plot.

1219
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: But how would you map up maybe you actually have

1220
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: a spot like this on one of your places that

1221
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: you hunt. Can you map out like the ideal way

1222
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: you would access, where your trees stand would be positioned,

1223
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: what the food plot would be shaped, like where it

1224
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: would be in relation to betting cover or staging areas

1225
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Can you kind of paint me

1226
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: a picture of this perfect September stand site. Yeah, So

1227
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: the one that actually first comes to mind is the

1228
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: one that we've got on our farm that I'm I'm

1229
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: headed to right now, and that's our main farm in

1230
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: northern Missouria behind and this plot particularly really isn't all

1231
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: that far from the house, which is ideal for early

1232
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: season and late season or any really for that matter,

1233
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: anytime of the fall. Um, because of the access it's

1234
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: not it's got to be i don't know, two to

1235
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: three d yards from from the house and you're traveling

1236
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: north to get to it. So it's set up for

1237
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: north wind your field or your wind blows back to

1238
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: the south, which is where you come from. And um,

1239
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: there's a an agg field this year. It's in beans

1240
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: that's to the south and and also to the west

1241
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: of this particular spot, and it's set up perfectly. It's

1242
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: more of a staging plot. So the deer come out

1243
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: of the woods into this plot which all the covers

1244
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: to the north and to the to the east and

1245
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: a little bit to the west. But not not so

1246
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: much like it is to the north and east, and

1247
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: so the easier come into this food plot. It's fairly secluded.

1248
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: We left a layer of trees in between this plot

1249
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: and um the agg fields, which is the destination of

1250
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: food source. And you know, you can count on a

1251
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: lot of deer piling in there prior to them going

1252
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: out to that act field and having a north wind

1253
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: uh following a cold front with high pressure system is

1254
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: just ideal and perfect setup in my mind for early

1255
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: season success. And you can get in there pretty well

1256
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: undetected and getting out, you can get get out pretty

1257
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: well undetected. So if if you're late getting in there,

1258
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: which is sometimes the case for all of us, you

1259
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: can usually still get in there without the deer knowing

1260
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: that you're there. So what does that mean for the

1261
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: stand actually is are you not right on the edge

1262
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: of the field, or like, how do you get in

1263
01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: there without deer? In this particular spot, there really aren't

1264
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: any good trees And I know we've all been there,

1265
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: and I actually had a guy asking me about that

1266
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: the other day and he just he wanted to be

1267
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: in a tree, and I want to be in a

1268
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: tree as well. I prefer being in a tree just

1269
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: because of the environment and um just being out there

1270
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: and in the climate and all that experiencing it all.

1271
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,959
Speaker 1: But for this certain situation, there is not a tree

1272
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: that will work. So we have a little elevated blind

1273
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: that we put in there, um and it's you know,

1274
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: you can get into that thing fairly quickly. I've also

1275
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: used little hay veil blind as well, and that seems

1276
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: to work work good too. But yeah, so unfortunately in

1277
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: this situation we have to hunt out of a blind

1278
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: and um, you know, it's comfortable and it's great, but

1279
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: me particularly if if we can be in a tree stand,

1280
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: it seems to be just more of the element of

1281
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: bow honey in my opinion. Yeah, the field, I mean

1282
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: as effective as a blinds are, and I've used them,

1283
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: and you're right, they work in a lot of situations,

1284
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: but the field is just different. Um. Yeah, you know

1285
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: a lot of these early season you know, September food

1286
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: related hunts. Um. It's easy to get, you know, to

1287
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: get in there before the deer arrive and their feeding

1288
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: through and you're a great setup. But if you don't

1289
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: kill your buck on that night, I know, unless you

1290
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: really careful about how you have this position, it can

1291
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: be hard to get out of that without spooking deer.

1292
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: And you mentioned there's there's a strip of treason between

1293
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: your staging plot and the destination plot. But I'm still wondering,

1294
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: how do you get out of there without dear knowing

1295
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: you're around? Do you have someone pick you up or

1296
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: is there a little way you can sneak out the backside? Yeah,

1297
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: so we've done that. We've had um, someone pick us up, UM.

1298
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: But that doesn't necessarily always you know, schedules don't necessarily

1299
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: always line up for having someone else come pick you up.

1300
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: So we've stayed in the blind before UM untill well

1301
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: after dark, you know, an hour or two after where

1302
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: you can still sometimes glass providing the moonlight UM and

1303
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: make sure that the deer has left or whatever. And

1304
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: in this, with this setup, there's only really three access

1305
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: points because when we designed to this, we had to

1306
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: doze the trees out to make the plot. And so

1307
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: when we dozed it out, we piled those up, those

1308
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: trees into that um that buffer strip of trees that

1309
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: we left in between the food plot in the act field,

1310
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: and we used that as well as kind of a

1311
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: a way to get in and out undetected by traveling

1312
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: behind it, um wherever the deer might be. UM. That

1313
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: kind of also created another issue, which is a different subject.

1314
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: But we later found out that you know that that's

1315
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: actually a good, um good way to provide cover for predators,

1316
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, for bobcats and um kyots to dinner and

1317
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: so sooner than later we'll most likely get rid of

1318
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: a lot of those in there. But as far as

1319
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: from a hunting standpoint, it's it's provided to get sense

1320
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: of cover for getting in and undetected. Yeah. Now you

1321
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: mentioned the weather conditions that you like to wait for.

1322
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: When you don't have that kind of weather, are you

1323
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: just not gonna hunt or do you do some kind

1324
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: of glassing or do you go to different places? Like

1325
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: what's your take on the off weather days? Yeah, I

1326
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: think it's super crucial not to um. I mean, if

1327
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: your wind is wrong, then I think most of us

1328
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: know that that's not it's not even an option to

1329
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: go in there and try to hunt on the wrong wind. Uh.

1330
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: And and I would if I don't have somewhere else

1331
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: to hunt, which usually I do, But if I don't,

1332
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: then I would use that opportunity as UM on that

1333
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: particular area as a scouting evening where I can I

1334
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: can see a lot of that from the road, So

1335
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,560
Speaker 1: I would go to the road and be able to

1336
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: to glass that a field which is a destination food source.

1337
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: UM with my my spotting shope or binoculars. You know,

1338
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: I can't see into that food plot really very well

1339
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: at all from the road, but I can't see where

1340
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: they're headed to. And then I've also got usually i've

1341
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: got a couple of cell cans on that plot, so

1342
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: you can get an idea at least you know a

1343
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: number of deer that are going in and out of there.

1344
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: So so much of these early season hunts, it's it's

1345
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: getting that timing right. If you have a spot like this,

1346
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: it's this it's just then picking the right night to

1347
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: go in there. But what about this kind of tricky scenario.

1348
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: It's kind of simple when you know, like, oh, we

1349
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: get the cold front coming in and I've got this

1350
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 1: dynamite spot, this should be the day to go in, UM.

1351
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: And then the flip side could be, oh, i've got

1352
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: pictures of this buck moving in daylight on my cell cam.

1353
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: I should go in. But what if you get the

1354
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: scenario where you've had a handful of days where he

1355
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: has showed up in daylight or really close to daylight. Um,

1356
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: so you would say, Okay, I gotta get in there.

1357
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 1: Maybe this is your first day with a good wind.

1358
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 1: After that was daylight pictures. You're thinking, now is my

1359
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: day to strike, But you don't have the good cold front.

1360
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 1: It's warm, it's hot. Would you still go in after

1361
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: him because of the daylight pictures the day or two before?

1362
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: Or would you say the weather is too warm, it's

1363
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: eighty and bomb and humid. I gotta wait until the

1364
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: weather lines up. Two. Yeah, I would. I would try

1365
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: it for sure. Um, if I think that I have

1366
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: an opportunity at him, I would. I would definitely. Um,

1367
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: if he's showing up in daylight and and the wind

1368
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: is right, I would definitely give it a shot. A

1369
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: lot of times what we've done as well as we'll

1370
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: go back and correlate the data on the weather patterns,

1371
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: like for instance, say, um, oh, say the wind was

1372
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: out of the northeast, and a northeast wind would work

1373
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: in that in that um that plot that I'm talking about,

1374
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: and so within this northeast wind, it was just like

1375
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: a really light, cool front and the weather didn't change

1376
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: a whole lot. But you've got the right wind and

1377
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: he's showing up. UM, So on those winds, we'll go

1378
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 1: back and look at the wind as to when he

1379
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: was showing up in daylight on those UM on that

1380
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: that food plot, and try to correlate that with when

1381
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: we go back in and try and hunt him. So,

1382
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: if it's a marginal wind and you've got the weather

1383
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: data backing up when he's showing up in daylight, I

1384
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: was just definitely trying it. But UM, you know, if

1385
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: you're showing up on a south wind and UM the

1386
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: days prior to um and it was, you know, you've

1387
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: got you've got a change in the wind and a

1388
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: little bit change in the weather. I'd still probably try it.

1389
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: But a lot of times we'll go back and try

1390
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: to correlate when when you're showing up and make that

1391
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: move based off the history of of what's been going

1392
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 1: on in there. That's that's fun when you can mind

1393
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: that data and find the little clue that tells ill

1394
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,440
Speaker 1: this this is when he does that thing. I love that.

1395
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: That's exactly right it is. Um. So what if I

1396
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: took you off of your properties, you know, well, and

1397
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: I was going to drop you in another place in Missouri.

1398
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: Let's say farm you've never hunted before, and now you

1399
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: have you know, let's say five days to try to

1400
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: kill a buck on the first week of your season

1401
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: there in Missouri. Uh, walk me through what you would

1402
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: do to try to figure this place out and and

1403
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: get a buck killed in five days or whatever on

1404
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: a brand new spot. So you don't have that food plot,

1405
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: you don't have the cell Kim's giving you weeks worth

1406
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: of dead or years worth of data. How do you

1407
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: put together this quickly? This game play quickly. Well, it's

1408
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: gonna make it tougher, that's for sure. UM. I would say,

1409
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: I would try to locate what food sources are on

1410
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: the property. UM, the access points where you know where

1411
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: you can access the farm. Maybe it's just one one

1412
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: certain area, UM, which kind of designates you to a

1413
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 1: certain wind direction. Because uh, you know, I've I've found

1414
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 1: through my years of bow hunting, if you can try

1415
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: your hardest to make something work on a farm when

1416
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: you only have one access point, but you're gonna have

1417
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: to go trudging through the entire farm to get to

1418
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: that other side. And it's just it's rarely works. So

1419
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 1: with that being said, I'm going to figure out what

1420
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: my access points are, what the right wind is, what

1421
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 1: the food sources that they're using. Um, And then I

1422
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 1: mean basically i'd say what office, Um, what you've just

1423
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: told me? You haven't no no trail camera inventory. Um,

1424
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna hope and pray and that that there's

1425
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: a maturityer using that farm and and try to kill him.

1426
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: But um, you know that that goes back to what

1427
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: it used to be like in the nineties. And you know,

1428
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: sometimes I missed I missed that just because of the

1429
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: sheer fact that you've got in the back of your

1430
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: mind you have no idea what what could show up.

1431
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would look for the for the key

1432
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: access points on the farm that you can utilize and

1433
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: and um, what wind direction is going to work out

1434
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: right for you? And from there, figure out what the

1435
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: food and the main food sources. Yeah, focus on food.

1436
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: So that's something that a lot of folks and you

1437
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: know I've seen it too. We know that focusing on

1438
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: food works in September. That's what the box life revolves

1439
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: around right now. Um, So that's something that hopefully a

1440
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 1: lot of people are right, But what do you think

1441
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: when you look back, either in your own hunts or

1442
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: on seeing what other people have done, what do you

1443
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: think the biggest mistake or two is that people make

1444
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:19,480
Speaker 1: during this month is I would have to say probably

1445
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: over pressuring an area. I think that it it can

1446
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: definitely be done. You can get away with a whole

1447
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 1: lot more early season than you can, um wait season,

1448
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: But that doesn't necessarily mean you should hunt every single night,

1449
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: especially if the wind is wrong. And I've seen it

1450
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: time and time again where people think that they can

1451
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: get away with it and try to hunt with the

1452
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: wrong wind. And you know, when I was younger, I

1453
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 1: used to do that all the time, and it's not

1454
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: gonna work in my opinion. So I would just say

1455
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: make sure that you're you're gathering the most intel that

1456
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: you possibly can and make your choices wisely. And I

1457
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: know that everybody's schedule is different UM and wooting my

1458
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: own UM and sometimes it just doesn't pan out. But

1459
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: I would say hunt smart rather than than hunt hard.

1460
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: That's I feel like the only time that you really

1461
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: should be hunting and truly hunting hard is during the rut.

1462
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: In my opinion. Yeah, So when it comes to picking

1463
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 1: your times to hunt, here's one that there's a popular

1464
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: opinion on it, and then there's a contrarian. How about

1465
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: mornings in September. Would you ever do it? I've heard,

1466
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: I've I've done it. Um. I personally don't usually do

1467
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 1: it very often at all, um, very rarely. But I've

1468
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: also seen people be successful doing it, So I'm not

1469
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: saying that you shouldn't do it. I personally don't don't

1470
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: do it um hardly ever, unless I'm hunting for dough

1471
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 1: or something like that. It's just it just seems tough

1472
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,879
Speaker 1: sometimes to catch them going back to bed and you you,

1473
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: I certainly would never try to hunt a food plot

1474
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: in the morning in September. I don't even know how

1475
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: you get away with that, And unless you had some

1476
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: sort of food plot close to bedding and you for

1477
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: sure knew that these deer were all coming back from

1478
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: the egg and they were going to filter through there

1479
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: in in daylight. But I just I personally have yet

1480
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 1: to really see that ideal set up, at least in

1481
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: the Midwest. And it might work in western states for sure,

1482
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, like Wyoming. I've hunted in September in the

1483
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 1: mornings there have been very successful. But that's that seems

1484
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: to be a whole different realm of um of hunting

1485
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: out there. What what do you do in a place

1486
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: like that though, to pull off a morning hunt. Is

1487
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: it just because they travel a long ways and you

1488
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 1: can catch them on their feet later or what do

1489
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: you need to do to make that kind of situation

1490
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: pan out? Yeah, they do travel a lot further there,

1491
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: it seems like. And another thing that I that I'm

1492
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: not sure if many people are aware of or not,

1493
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: but a lot of those deer um on those ranches

1494
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: in Wyoming are very conditioned to cattle ranchers on their

1495
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 1: their u tv s and whatnot. So you could you

1496
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: can drive in there on YOUTUV. I mean I would

1497
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: actually prefer it driving in on the UTV where they're

1498
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: conditioned to hearing that, seeing that, and having someone drop

1499
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: you off at your tree stand whereas or rather than

1500
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: walking in and spooking the deer out then they don't

1501
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: come back if you if they see you on foot

1502
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 1: or here you come in or whatever. Smell Yeah, um,

1503
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: so in those instances it did work. You know. We

1504
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: I've literally been on hunts and Wyoming where we've been

1505
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: dropped off in u TV, like the deer have ran off,

1506
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: just trotted off into the woods and you get set

1507
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 1: up and then whoever dropped you off leaves and they

1508
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,879
Speaker 1: come right back inn because they're conditioned to those those vehicles,

1509
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: and they don't see that as a sense of danger. Yeah.

1510
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: Kind of counterintuitive when we're always worried about hunting pressure,

1511
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:45,839
Speaker 1: but it is true that they get used to some things. Yeah.

1512
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: So last question, quick question here, which is worse in

1513
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: the September bow hunting world, mosquitoes or the hot temperatures?

1514
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: And then whichever, when you pick, how do you best

1515
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: deal with it? Uh? I usually the only place that

1516
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: I've ever really battled mosquitos because in North Dakota, and

1517
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: it was a sar my cell that actually seemed to

1518
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 1: work really, really well. So I wouldn't say that was

1519
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: the worst part. I would say that early season heat

1520
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 1: can sometimes be the worst and the only way to

1521
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: battle it is a dress light. I mean, I don't

1522
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't have too many tricks up my sleep for that.

1523
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm used to being hot here in Missouri right now,

1524
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: it's in the nineties and we're working outside a lot,

1525
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: and uh, it's humid, and we just adapt to it

1526
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: and you get used to the heat. And so I

1527
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: would say it's definitely worse than Mosquitos, but I just

1528
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: battle through it. I I would say that late December

1529
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 1: early January cold is much harsher than than the dealing

1530
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: with the heat. I would much rather have heat. You

1531
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: had to deal with heat and cold. Granted, you know,

1532
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: we want the cold late season because the deer really

1533
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: get on that seat. But yeah, I don't have just

1534
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't have some hidden

1535
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 1: trick to deal with the heat of the Mr. Dress

1536
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: Light suck it up. Yeah, yeah, I'm right. I'm right

1537
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: there with you. Well appreciate this, Shawn, good stuff and

1538
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: good luck in Missouri and everywhere else you're hitting. Yeah,

1539
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: thanks you too. Man, came the round things out. We're

1540
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,759
Speaker 1: gonna finish it up with Brennan nating from the breaking

1541
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: point TV. Alright, So, Brennan, when you think of September

1542
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: bow hunting, what's the first thing that comes to mind

1543
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: for you? Weather, no doubt, hands down. Weather. Just keeping

1544
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 1: an eye on, you know, trends, obviously, watching for those

1545
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: significant drops in temperature, UM might not be fifteen or

1546
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,719
Speaker 1: twenty degree dropped, but anywhere where you're getting something more

1547
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,759
Speaker 1: than seven eight degree dropping temperature, I'm really paying attention

1548
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: to that. Obviously, I'm I'm watching the barometric pressure as well.

1549
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 1: But those big changes in weather, um stormfronts coming in

1550
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: get nasty weather that kind of get deer to hold

1551
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: up for you know, more than twelve to sixteen hours.

1552
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: If you can get on the front end of those

1553
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: or the back end of those, those are usually when

1554
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: I've had my best early season success. And I am

1555
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: constantly watching the weather. And I mean that goes for

1556
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: the whole season, but it's really important, you know, that

1557
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: first month of the season. How do you think that

1558
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: the cold front impact or the weather impact in September

1559
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: compares to the impact it has under and let's say

1560
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: the other three months October, November, December, when when most

1561
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 1: people are hunting. Do you think September has the biggest

1562
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: weather influence or what do you think? Um, I think

1563
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: it's equally as effective all year, all season long, but

1564
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 1: that early season, a lot of these deer are still

1565
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: on their summer patterns um bed to feed, feed to bed,

1566
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: and uh, it's just when they get laid up and

1567
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: stressed out from a weather front or a storm. Um.

1568
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 1: That's when we have had our best luck early season

1569
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: is you know, on the front end and the back

1570
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: end of these huge weather fronts early on in the season,

1571
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: when it's pretty much disrupting their summer feeding pattern that

1572
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 1: they've been you know, used to for the last month,

1573
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 1: month and a half two months. Yeah. So so while

1574
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: the weather influence maybe isn't changing dear behavior more than

1575
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: it does in October November. Right, cold fronts are great

1576
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 1: no matter what, but the predictability of what they're doing

1577
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: in September is so much so that you can take

1578
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: advantage of the front maybe easier than other times. Yeah,

1579
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: for sure, I can agree with that. It's uh, I

1580
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess one way to look at it

1581
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: is like in September, they're they're still about putting weight

1582
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: on for the route. They're not necessarily worried about breeding

1583
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 1: me yet. Um. And I think later on in October

1584
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: and into November, those cold fronts equally as good as

1585
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 1: mostly because it gets the does moving. But those bucks

1586
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: are gonna be moving irregardless that time of year. So

1587
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: it's like early season, you're really taking advantage of their

1588
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: their summer patterns and when their summer patterns get disrupted

1589
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 1: by a weather front. Um catching them at that time

1590
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: of the year is is in my opinion, easier because

1591
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: they're more predictable because they're still on that bed to feed.

1592
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 1: They're not thinking about does just yet. So what are

1593
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: your favorite places to catch them? Then? UM, it kind

1594
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: of depends. We spend a lot of early season hunting

1595
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: in uh in North Dakota. UM, North Dakota obviously, and

1596
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: in a lot of parts of the state. You can

1597
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: feed them there, and we kind of place uh where

1598
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: we're feeding them, we're kind of setting up, you know,

1599
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 1: and a lot of times we're hunting near cattail marshes

1600
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 1: and we're still trying to find those uh you know,

1601
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 1: those big food sources, whether it's soybeans or corn or

1602
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: sunflowers or alfalfa, and we're just trying to pretty much

1603
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: interrupt or get in the between, you know, those marshes

1604
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: where they're betting and they chuge food sources and we

1605
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 1: kind of put a little appetizer a on the way

1606
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: and hopefully they'll make a pitch stuff nice. Do you

1607
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: find that any kind of I guess when what I'm

1608
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: curious about picking your spots when you've got you know,

1609
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: maybe a number of different options. Maybe there's a soybean

1610
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: field somewhere, maybe there's a now fulfil feeds field somewhere.

1611
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 1: Do you find that there's any factor that will influence

1612
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 1: what they hit? Like a cold front hits and they're

1613
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,759
Speaker 1: really drawn to x well and it's hot and muggy

1614
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: and just a normal September evening, they generally tend to

1615
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: go to, you know, option A or B. Is there

1616
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: anything like that or is it more just wind and

1617
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: betting related. It's a lot of it out there is

1618
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: access um in North Dakota. It's if anyone's ever been

1619
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: outut there, it's it's not at least the area that

1620
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 1: we hunt. There's not a lot of like thick cover there.

1621
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 1: These deer are pretty much living in cattail marshes, like

1622
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: timber and you know a lot of other things that

1623
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 1: most people in the Midwest are YouTube just is non

1624
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: existent out there, aside from you know, you might find

1625
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 1: a two three five acre wood lot here and there,

1626
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: but those deer are living in cattle marshes. So a

1627
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: lot of the spots we're setting up, we're paying attention

1628
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: to our access. How can we get into these spots

1629
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: and get out of these spots without boogering deer. Um.

1630
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: We try to set up our spots so we have

1631
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 1: options of hunting on you know, all kinds of different winds, Um.

1632
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: But our main thing is never blowing our wind towards

1633
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: where these deer are assumingly vetted or how you know,

1634
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: how our approach. We never want them to catch you know,

1635
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 1: drift of our winds. So it's but I would say

1636
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: like in the cold cold snaps, um, it just gets

1637
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: them on their feet earlier. I mean the deer out there.

1638
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: We see deer every sit it's just a matter of

1639
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:51,640
Speaker 1: if we can get them in bow range for the

1640
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: most part. So it's like on those cold fronts, it

1641
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 1: just seems that they're up earlier. It's you know, hour

1642
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: and a half before dark versus fifteen minutes before dark.

1643
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: And you know on those colder nights, those deer, they

1644
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 1: especially on those evenings when the wind calms down, you know,

1645
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: the half hour hour before dark, those deer get on

1646
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: their feet and they want to feed. So it's just

1647
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: a matter of catching them. A lot of times if

1648
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: the temperatures are warm and it doesn't really drop off

1649
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 1: at night, that's when you're seeing those deer kind of

1650
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 1: pop up those last ten minutes and then more or

1651
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: less just stand there and wait for it to get

1652
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 1: dark before they want to go anywhere. Yeah, So, how

1653
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: do your setups differ on the hot nights versus the

1654
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: cold front days? Are you setting back more conservatively and

1655
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 1: observing on the warmer days and then getting to the

1656
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: best of the best on the cold front or or what?

1657
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: For sure? Yeah? Um, and I know we kind of

1658
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: discussed this before we started recording, but uh, yeah, the

1659
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 1: weather ain't right. It's come down to the point where

1660
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 1: we'll sit out a day or two and just kind

1661
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: of scout from a distance. Um, these spots that we're

1662
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: kind of putting all of our you know, putting all

1663
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: of our eggs in the basket on some of these

1664
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 1: bigger deer. It's, uh, you might only get to sit

1665
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: them once a week, maybe twice a week, and those

1666
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 1: other nights, Um, it's it's more or less scouting and

1667
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: staying out of there. Even though it's it's hard to

1668
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 1: sit out an evening where you want to be hunting.

1669
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: It's in the grand scheme of things, you gotta you

1670
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: gotta play, you gotta play cards when you got the

1671
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: best options or you know, the best weather opportunities, and

1672
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 1: and a lot of sitting around is definitely gonna take place.

1673
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: What about mornings, Hunt mornings or sit them out? Sit

1674
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: them out? Um. I don't typically hunt mornings anywhere, um

1675
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: until probably around the twenty October, just because in my opinion,

1676
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: it's not worth it. Not to say you can't go

1677
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 1: kill a big buck in the morning, because people do

1678
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: it all the time, but it's a long season and

1679
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 1: I just don't think the reward is is worth the

1680
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: risk hunting mornings early season. It brings me to something

1681
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: that maybe maybe what you just mentioned is one of

1682
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: these things. Both when you hear the biggest or most

1683
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: common September white tail mistakes, what comes to mind for you?

1684
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 1: What are these mistakes that either you've made the most

1685
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: or that you see other people making the most in

1686
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 1: this early part of the year. I would say it's

1687
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, over pressuring spots and hunting them when the

1688
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: conditions aren't right. I mean, obviously, you know, over the years,

1689
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: people are more and more aware of you gotta pay

1690
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: attention to your wind and your access, and I think

1691
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: people are starting to realize the importance of weather fronts

1692
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 1: um and I think the biggest mistake a lot of

1693
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: people make early season has to come between, you know,

1694
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: messing with trail cameras and just sitting spots that aren't

1695
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: ready to be sat yet, meaning they're sitting them on

1696
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, poor weather days, or they're slipping in and

1697
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,839
Speaker 1: checking cameras and they're blowing their wind in their own spots.

1698
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: I would have to say those are probably the biggest

1699
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:07,440
Speaker 1: early season mistakes that I see. Okay, so then cameras,

1700
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: how do you use cameras September so that they aren't

1701
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 1: a mistake. Um, well, now we've transitioned into cell cams

1702
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 1: for the most part, so a lot of these spots

1703
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: we don't even have to check them anymore. But where

1704
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: we are still running normal cameras, if we can't get

1705
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: cell service or we're just simply don't have enough cell cams,

1706
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: we won't even I mean we're checking them. If we

1707
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: do check them, we'll check them, you know, midday, typically

1708
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 1: between ten and two, and we'll only check them if

1709
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 1: the winds right. And by that I'm saying if if

1710
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: it's a spot where we won't hunt it on a

1711
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 1: self wind, we're not going to check that camera on

1712
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: a south wind either. Oh yeah, okay, So let's say

1713
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: we pulled you out of North Dakota, your favorite spot

1714
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,560
Speaker 1: probably hunt in September, and instead I was going to

1715
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: drop you in another kind of Midwest Ish state that

1716
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: has a September opener. It be Wisconsin mid September, it

1717
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: could be Nebraska early September. Whatever. Let's say drop you

1718
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: into a new piece of ground and you've got a

1719
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 1: week to kill buck in September. Walk me through your

1720
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 1: high level game plan, Lee, and this is some person

1721
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: you've never been before, So tell me how would you

1722
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 1: figure out quick? How would you get started, and what

1723
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: you think would be the key to your successful If

1724
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: I got dropped somewhere, I would probably if you're giving

1725
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 1: me seven days, I would probably spend the first four

1726
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: days scouting UM, using online mapping UM, kind of trying

1727
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: to figure out as much as I can without stepping

1728
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 1: foot in there and alerting the deer. I'm gonna, you know,

1729
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: scout online. I'm going to scout from the vehicle. I'm

1730
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 1: gonna drive around in the evenings, in the mornings, try

1731
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 1: and see if I can get eyes on deer, kind

1732
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: of see what they're doing, find their preferred food source,

1733
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: and try to come up with a game plan how

1734
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 1: I can get between where these deer are going to

1735
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 1: bed and where they're coming out to feed. But I

1736
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 1: think a lot of people will make the mistake of

1737
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 1: just jumping in and they think they got to be

1738
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: in the tree day one, and that's not the case

1739
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 1: that I think. It's a lot more you know, it's

1740
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 1: a lot more rewarding to just sit back, and it's

1741
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: it's tough to have that patience, but sometimes you just

1742
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 1: gotta sit back and uh scout from a distance, and

1743
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 1: then you know a lot of times that's gonna pay

1744
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 1: off when you finally do jump in the tree, you're

1745
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 1: gonna have a way better opportunity rate in my opinion,

1746
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 1: once you sit back scouting and go in there. Yeah,

1747
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: so what what about if you go in you've done

1748
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: this scouting, you you observed, you see something that you

1749
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: want to you want to make a move on. You

1750
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: get in there, get set up. Night number one, you

1751
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: see a shooter buck out of range. I'm curious, how

1752
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: fast do you pivot in that kind of situation, will

1753
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 1: you move to hunt that buck where he was the

1754
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: next day or do you need to see things a

1755
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 1: couple of times? Like how quickly do you move in

1756
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 1: September on that kind of hunt. If he's been through

1757
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: an area out of range and he's doing it like

1758
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 1: with no care in the world, you can tell he's

1759
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,639
Speaker 1: done it before he was you know, he has no

1760
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: idea that you're in that area. I'm making a move

1761
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: the very next sit nice. Okay, last question, what is

1762
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:24,919
Speaker 1: the worst thing about hunting white tails in September? Those

1763
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 1: those uh three or four days stretches where the weather

1764
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 1: sucks it you're pretty much your best stop waiting for

1765
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: the next weather front. And the worst part about September

1766
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 1: is the in between, the in between good weather, um

1767
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 1: for sure, because you're, like you said, you're sitting around

1768
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 1: Twitter on your thumbs for the most part. So then

1769
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 1: the follow up question is if that's the worst thing, Like,

1770
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 1: what's the best way to deal with that thing. Is

1771
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: it just making the most of that time in the

1772
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 1: scouting that you do or what? For sure? I think yeah, um,

1773
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 1: scouting new areas, like if you've got kind of something

1774
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 1: pinned down in an area and you know, know what's

1775
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: the matter of waiting for the next good weather front. UM.

1776
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: I use those days in that time to check out

1777
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: new areas that I've never been to before, um and

1778
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 1: and really try to find another option for if if

1779
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: Plan eight fails. I like it all right, Brennan. That

1780
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: is everything I got for you. I appreciate good luck

1781
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 1: in North Dakota's here. I appreciate it, man, all right.

1782
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: And that is a rap. Thank you for tuning in.

1783
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this one. I gotta tell you,

1784
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,520
Speaker 1: I am pretty amped up myself as of the recording

1785
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 1: of this. I will be leaving tomorrow for my first

1786
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,799
Speaker 1: hunt of the year, and you'll be hearing this, uh

1787
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 1: when I'm almost done with that hunt. So it's here.

1788
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: Everything we've been working on this winter, this spring, this summer,

1789
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 1: it all leads up to this. And I guess I'll

1790
01:32:57,720 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: leave you with just a couple of final thoughts in

1791
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 1: this The stuff that I I bring up a lot,

1792
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 1: and it's not directly related to deer hunting in the

1793
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: kind of way that you know, hunting green food sources

1794
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: is or understanding how deer operate with the wind. But

1795
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,600
Speaker 1: this stuff kind of applies above and beyond all that,

1796
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 1: which is kind of the the head game of it all.

1797
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 1: If you haven't listened, go back and listen to the

1798
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 1: episode I shared last September. I think it was ten

1799
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: Steps to the Best Hunting Season of your Life something

1800
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 1: like that, and it was all about this mental side

1801
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: of it, how you deal with challenges, because you know what,

1802
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: when the season starts and the season gets going, we

1803
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,799
Speaker 1: are going to face adversity. Stuff is gonna go wrong,

1804
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 1: Our plans are gonna get crushed by who knows what.

1805
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: So we gotta to be prepared to stay positive and

1806
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: push through it and look for what the next best

1807
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 1: option is keep on going. Uh And finally, we gotta

1808
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 1: have fun. You gotta remember that this is supposed to

1809
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: be a good time. And I've talked about it many

1810
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 1: times over the years, so you know what, if you've

1811
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 1: been listening. But I definitely am very goal oriented. I

1812
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 1: can get very wrapped up in the quote unquote mission

1813
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 1: of this thing, right. I really want to achieve this goal,

1814
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: and when things don't go my way sometimes that can

1815
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 1: bump me out and take the fun out. And I've

1816
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 1: been working really hard to try to fight that and

1817
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 1: get better at that. And I know there's some of

1818
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 1: you like that too, who are so die hard about

1819
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 1: trying to fill that tag that sometimes you get wrapped

1820
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: up in it loose sight of the fund. So let's

1821
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 1: try to do that a little less this year. When

1822
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: you find yourself bumming or grumbling into your head, you know,

1823
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: just saying, ah, this sucks, isn't gonna work, this is

1824
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 1: a waste of night. Blah blah blah, just just stop.

1825
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: WHOA like say whoa, Let's shake it off. This isn't

1826
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 1: why I'm out here. I'm gonna enjoy it. Even though

1827
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 1: that guy walked through here and scared every deer. Well,

1828
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: then I'm just gonna enjoy it for what it is,

1829
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 1: or I'm going to find a way to pivot, make

1830
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: an adjustment, and make the best of it, because life's

1831
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,640
Speaker 1: too short not to enjoy every single one of her hunts.

1832
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: This is this is it, so well, let's enjoy it.

1833
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 1: And with that, wishing you all the best of luck

1834
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: for those of you