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Speaker 1: in studio, Tony was Sally and Pete Prisco with us.
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday. We'll get the
Speaker 1: review of the Jaguars Dolphins game. Didn't go so well
Speaker 1: for the Jags. We'll recap that one, put it to bed,
Speaker 1: and move forward to Cincinnati. We're on to Cincinnati. Defensive
Speaker 1: adjustments are needed, certainly early in the game for the Jags,
Speaker 1: who are down. They gave up three touchdowns the first
Speaker 1: three drives from Miami. The offense has been playing catch
Speaker 1: up because of that. We'll get to socials in the
Speaker 1: second hour and we'll go around the National Football League
Speaker 1: and here we go, guys, Pete, I must say, this
Speaker 1: must be what every Sunday is like for you watching
Speaker 1: all these different games around the league. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: usually sitting here watching the Jags and have red zone on,
Speaker 1: but not really watching it yesterday, flipping around all the
Speaker 1: different games, sitting at the house. That's pretty neat, man,
Speaker 1: it's a real neat. But you know what's keeping up
Speaker 1: with all the scoring can't be hard the way these
Speaker 1: defenses are playing, right, God, up and down, up and down,
Speaker 1: up and down the entire day. But I love it,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I love offensive football, but I
Speaker 1: think these defenses are terrible. Right. Do you think the
Speaker 1: defenses catch up sooner or later? Pete didn't we say
Speaker 1: this though on the show. We thought there would be
Speaker 1: a lot of points early the season because nobody tackled
Speaker 1: in the angles and you know that whole thing. I
Speaker 1: thought there'd be a lot of points. Do they catch up?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Tony. Are the quarterbacks that good? Now?
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks that good? The rules favor them to that
Speaker 1: much of an advantage? Well, I think the rules the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks being not just good throwers of the ball, but
Speaker 1: so athletic and put so much stress on the defense.
Speaker 1: I think it's really hard to defend um. I also
Speaker 1: think they do catch up a little bit. I think
Speaker 1: the tackling is just atrocious. And I watched I'm doing
Speaker 1: the Ravens Chiefs game tonight and watching the Chiefs try
Speaker 1: to tackle um the Chargers an. I mean it was
Speaker 1: like the worst tackling ever seen. The Falcons terrible in
Speaker 1: the second The Falcons tackling was terrible in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: And you know the Jagboards didn't tackle great the other
Speaker 1: day either. Yeah, I mean I think they do catch
Speaker 1: up a little bit, um, but I still think I
Speaker 1: mean the era of great defenses, you know, um where
Speaker 1: it's you know, winning games ten to seven. I mean
Speaker 1: that's over. I mean that that's never coming back. You
Speaker 1: hold the team that if you hold the team at ten,
Speaker 1: bould you like it, it's like a shutout back. I
Speaker 1: mean because just talking about this game with them doing
Speaker 1: the cheese, I watched the Chargers Chiefs and they held
Speaker 1: the Chiefs to twenty points in regulation, and it was
Speaker 1: like I thought I was watchings. I mean, it was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, my homes only points. Um, I still
Speaker 1: lost in overtime by three. But yeah, it's it's so
Speaker 1: hard to defend people right now. All right, well, let's
Speaker 1: speaking of defense. Let's start with the the Tag Wars
Speaker 1: defensive performance this past Thursday night against the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Another slow start. Three consecutive touchdown drives to start the game. Well,
Speaker 1: it took the Dolphins a little longer to get down
Speaker 1: the field this time than it did the previous two weeks.
Speaker 1: In weeks one and two, they were quick strike touchdowns
Speaker 1: to start the game for the opponents. Twelve play drive
Speaker 1: and just under seven minutes of six play drive three
Speaker 1: minutes and change, and then an eleven play drive in
Speaker 1: over seven minutes. So the Dolphins dominated time of possession.
Speaker 1: And that's a that doesn't give your offense many opportunities
Speaker 1: to bounce back feet when when you're giving up the
Speaker 1: long drives like that and they're all kept off with touchdowns.
Speaker 1: This is a trend, though, It's got to stop for
Speaker 1: the Jags to to really have a chance moving ahead here.
Speaker 1: How does it stop? You're not any good on defense,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest about it. That's not a
Speaker 1: good We thought they'd be a bad defense, at least
Speaker 1: I didn't. I know, Tony do you didn't think they'd
Speaker 1: be a good defense either. And you you have all
Speaker 1: those guys that you know opted out or the couple
Speaker 1: of guys one opted out, one was sick um. Would
Speaker 1: they have made that much of a difference to this team.
Speaker 1: Who knows. I doubt it. You have young secondary, you
Speaker 1: have a rookie corner who's a good player. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be a really good player. But he got towards the
Speaker 1: other night. That's what's gonna happen. The line back. I
Speaker 1: think Jack and Schober are fine. I think if you
Speaker 1: had people in front of him to keep them clean,
Speaker 1: they'd be they'd be more than adequate. Uh, you can't
Speaker 1: rush the passer. You're not big in the middle. You
Speaker 1: can't push the pocket in the middle. Chason got pushed
Speaker 1: around in the run game. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things that aren't working. Not a good defense right now. Well, Pete,
Speaker 1: I mean, um, yeah, you're right. Uh overall, I think
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Miles Jack's played really good. I mean,
Speaker 1: but if you go, I mean, if we're honest, I mean,
Speaker 1: you go, let's just go with have a three game
Speaker 1: sample now, still early. You know, I really think you
Speaker 1: start understanding who a team is and get a good
Speaker 1: sense of it, you know, game four through eight, like
Speaker 1: you know five through eight, then that second quarter, like
Speaker 1: you really get a sense of kind of war your head.
Speaker 1: But if you look at the first three games, UM,
Speaker 1: the Colts never punted, never punted the entire game. It
Speaker 1: took just two awful throws by Philip Rivers, which I'm
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out what he was looking at,
Speaker 1: UM to get them out of the field. The Titans
Speaker 1: scored thirty three points and punted zero times in the
Speaker 1: first half. I'm not mistaken. Maybe once and a couple
Speaker 1: of times in the second half, but you really never
Speaker 1: You did a great job against Derrick Henry. UM. But
Speaker 1: if you watch the Titans play now after three weeks,
Speaker 1: that's a team built around Tanny Hill as much as
Speaker 1: anything right now. I mean, Derreck Kenry is still the
Speaker 1: power runner and they they'll go to when they need to. UM.
Speaker 1: But you look at it even last week against the Vikings,
Speaker 1: the chunkyardage. When they got back in that game, they
Speaker 1: started slinging around and they're doing it without a J. Brown,
Speaker 1: who probably is their best wide receiver. UM. And so
Speaker 1: he lost that game. But you gave up thirty three
Speaker 1: points just just like not stop, let's not forget. And
Speaker 1: then you look at the Dolphins, who never even thought
Speaker 1: about punting in the first half until the last drive
Speaker 1: when you had to get a stop, so you don't
Speaker 1: go down seven. You did it. But this is not
Speaker 1: a good defense, and he's given no signs that it's
Speaker 1: a good defense. And I'm not saying it can't get better.
Speaker 1: It's still early. They have young players. You expect them
Speaker 1: to get better, but I wonder where the production is
Speaker 1: gonna Like I like Josh Allen. I think Jason has
Speaker 1: a chance to be a good player in the future.
Speaker 1: He's learning a new position. Let's not forget he didn't
Speaker 1: play defensive end at L s U. A linebacker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's going to be a good player. Yeah. And I mean,
Speaker 1: guy about Tavid Bryan in his third year. He he
Speaker 1: is what he is. He's a he's a rotation guy,
Speaker 1: a past that's it. That's all he is. And that's fine.
Speaker 1: Adamson and so they're just hard try, hard effort player. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Abrey Jones run plugger. Hamilton's run plugger. They had
Speaker 1: no pressure from the middle. Nobody can provide any pressure
Speaker 1: in the middle of whatsoever is not very good And
Speaker 1: journey is gone. Um the journey you can go today.
Speaker 1: What's the rationale behind that? I don't think he was
Speaker 1: playing very well nobody's playing very well. So you got
Speaker 1: everybody player that they're gonna bring up. I don't know
Speaker 1: what their planet is. Who they add they added? Let
Speaker 1: me look at the practice squad again, but they added
Speaker 1: somebody off the squad today. Yes, well I just I
Speaker 1: just noticed. Why are you wearing the coat and tie?
Speaker 1: We're just coating tie like you got. I can't barely
Speaker 1: see him on my screen. I had to we shoot
Speaker 1: a television show before this show, So look nice. Thanks,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Um. Yeah, so all except from the
Speaker 1: head up, you can't do much their Pete, but here
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, okay, okay, glass houses there, Pete, careful,
Speaker 1: but Pete and j P. Here's the reality of this team,
Speaker 1: if we're honest. Um, everyone got way too excited after
Speaker 1: you know, week one and week two, and you can
Speaker 1: say you did You did too, Pete, eleven and five,
Speaker 1: you did well. That was what I said there eleven
Speaker 1: and five before the season ever started. I never backed
Speaker 1: away from my five and eleven, And I don't think
Speaker 1: they're getting the five um stop stopped of his prs.
Speaker 1: So but it's a it's a young team, and and
Speaker 1: it's a team that we said this year. The most
Speaker 1: important thing is to figure out do you have a
Speaker 1: quarterback or not? Is he the guy that you can
Speaker 1: build around? And we're three games in and after two games,
Speaker 1: everyone locally, national media, I mean everyone was like, he's
Speaker 1: the guy. My comments to everyone when I would get asked,
Speaker 1: is he a franchise quarterback? And my answer has been
Speaker 1: consistent the entire time. I don't know, and I don't
Speaker 1: have to make the decision right now. And that's why
Speaker 1: you play sixteen games, and you want him to be
Speaker 1: able to play sixteen games so you can get a
Speaker 1: good feeling for what he is. Because at the end
Speaker 1: of at the end of this year, you think about it,
Speaker 1: he'll have twelve starts under his belt from last year
Speaker 1: and hopefully sixteen starts. Unders about this year, it's twenty
Speaker 1: eight starts. You should have an idea and know whether
Speaker 1: you're gonna build around the guy or not. I bet
Speaker 1: you're leaning more towards no now than you were a
Speaker 1: week ago. Where do you say, Pete, I'm leaning more
Speaker 1: or no, I'm actually this is the same as theact
Speaker 1: spot I was last week. You asked me last week,
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I don't know. I mean he
Speaker 1: does a lot of really good things. I like, UM.
Speaker 1: I thought he digressed in his pocket presence. I thought
Speaker 1: he was really poor in the first half. UM in
Speaker 1: the second half, especially the last in the last quarter
Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter, he was getting killed. I don't
Speaker 1: think the offensive line after Cambra Hobinson went out played
Speaker 1: very well in these passing only you know, obvious situations.
Speaker 1: They struggled before that. I thought the pocket was fine,
Speaker 1: but he continues not to drive the ball down the
Speaker 1: field consistently. UM, And he is very uh at times.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why he looks uncomfortable in the
Speaker 1: pocket when he has a clean pocket. There's like after
Speaker 1: one Mississippi to Mississippi three, like two and a half Mississippi,
Speaker 1: it's like, I gotta go, It's time to go, and
Speaker 1: I gotta get out here. It's almost like he doesn't
Speaker 1: see or something. I don't know. But but Tony the
Speaker 1: first I think it was the first third down of
Speaker 1: the game, he tried to throw short in the flat
Speaker 1: to a guy on the right side, and he had
Speaker 1: the receive, were clearing on the next level and didn't
Speaker 1: even try and take the shot. Didn't even try it.
Speaker 1: That guy was open you gotta take that shot. That's
Speaker 1: a that's an eighteen yard twenty yard completion. That's my
Speaker 1: concern when it comes to the quarterback, that's the concern. Now.
Speaker 1: In fairness to him, though he had two big drops
Speaker 1: and this team is not good enough. You know, we
Speaker 1: were talking about this morning, Um Chris Connedy drops that
Speaker 1: third down conversion on Like, what what happens if he
Speaker 1: catches that and they go down to score? Is it
Speaker 1: a different game? Very well? You know, you like you compare,
Speaker 1: like you look at Seattle yesterday and DJ Metcalf. You
Speaker 1: he blows a touchdown, but it doesn't matter for the
Speaker 1: Seahawks because they got Russell Wilson. They're gonna go score
Speaker 1: another five touchdowns somehow. This is a team that cannot afford.
Speaker 1: They're not good enough not to take advantage of those opportunities.
Speaker 1: And I think what we saw in the first two
Speaker 1: weeks offensively, they took they took advantage of every one
Speaker 1: of those opportunities. They didn't have any of those steaks
Speaker 1: really outside of you know, maybe an interception that was
Speaker 1: a poor throw by Minshew and after the review wasn't
Speaker 1: even a bad throw. He just was you know, miscommunication
Speaker 1: who he was throwing it too. So I think it's
Speaker 1: the reality is it's the team that doesn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of margin for air on either side of the ball.
Speaker 1: They have to do things really well. They're young, and
Speaker 1: there's questions about some of the I think where you
Speaker 1: have talent where you don't, and it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: season of ups and downs if we're honest with each other.
Speaker 1: And he didn't have chart. In fairness to him, he
Speaker 1: did not have his number one wide receiver. But here's
Speaker 1: the thing, Pete, I get that, and that's fine, but
Speaker 1: this this links played without the number one guy a
Speaker 1: lot of times. And guess what all I heard and
Speaker 1: all we talked about is how great these young receivers are.
Speaker 1: Well that if you really have a great room, losing
Speaker 1: one guy does stay your number one guy? Though, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean Atlanta scored some point yesterday and move the
Speaker 1: ball down and didn't play that well yesterday without Julio Jones.
Speaker 1: He did a really order. He threw the rid under
Speaker 1: what t winter yards in total passing off. Then he
Speaker 1: threw the ridley fifteen times and the numbers didn't reflect that.
Speaker 1: Look at the Saints without Michael Thomas. Is that the
Speaker 1: same passing offense? They dunked it down all night. The
Speaker 1: Packers still never stop them, Well they don't. First of all,
Speaker 1: they dunk it down all the time, even when Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas isn't there. Yeah, okay, and Rogers, Hey, Alan Lazard,
Speaker 1: he was once in jack Bar. A bunch of former
Speaker 1: Jags had days yesterday. By the way, Yeah we will.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that when we go around the league.
Speaker 1: By the way, Daniel Equality was promoted to the active
Speaker 1: roster from the practice squad defensive tackle. Uh. He was
Speaker 1: a free agent undrafted by Cleveland and eighteen. He was
Speaker 1: on the practice squad there last year. Played in seven
Speaker 1: games for the Browns and had four tackles. Washington State product,
Speaker 1: he was promoted. Well, they better, They better hope he's
Speaker 1: a combination of Alan Page and Merlin Alton in their pride,
Speaker 1: because otherwise it won't matter. We're back at the moment.
Speaker 1: On that note, we'll take our first time out. Jon JP.
Speaker 1: I mean, Pete Presco is a bad person. Is no
Speaker 1: a kid aquality doesn't even have a chance to show
Speaker 1: him with what he can do, and he's putting all
Speaker 1: kinds of pressure on the Kenyon. I need somebody in
Speaker 1: the middle to do something, Jack Sign. We'll get to
Speaker 1: this later. But everyone talking about the Bengals like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's get to two and two. It's for first you know,
Speaker 1: you know, good start to four games. If you don't rush,
Speaker 1: if you don't hit Joe Burrow yards he got hit,
Speaker 1: he got and he was hit eighteen in the game yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Doug Barone today discussing c J. Henderson Jaguar's first round
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Speaker 1: As you mentioned Pete earlier, it was, let's say, a
Speaker 1: tough night at the office for c. J. Henderson after
Speaker 1: he's had some good performances early in this season, especially
Speaker 1: week wality at the interception, uh five tackles that game
Speaker 1: with physical made some some physical plays really the first
Speaker 1: two weeks, but then Week three comes along Thursday night,
Speaker 1: doesn't touch the guy down. I remember a play later
Speaker 1: in the game as well, where it was like third
Speaker 1: and two. It was a quick out to the right
Speaker 1: and he's five seven yards off. It was just overall
Speaker 1: not a great night for c J. And you know,
Speaker 1: how does he bounce back. How does a guy like
Speaker 1: this that has talent, that has drafted so high, how
Speaker 1: does he bounce back from a night like Thursday? He
Speaker 1: goes and play things right? I mean the first game
Speaker 1: one game we've seen many a young cornerback get torched. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, Jalen Ramsey, for as good as he supposedly
Speaker 1: was at his moments where he got torched. You can
Speaker 1: play a lot of man coverage and you and your
Speaker 1: young kids you're gonna get tord. Even if you're an
Speaker 1: older player, that a player, we're gonna get beat when
Speaker 1: you play man coverage just the way it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's over. I think it was not a great night
Speaker 1: for him. Um, but he plays. He plays a position
Speaker 1: where you're in you know, you're in the spotlight and
Speaker 1: you literally could play sixty snaps perfect and three have
Speaker 1: three bat snaps and everyone think you're in a bump. Um,
Speaker 1: I just refused me. I'll say it this way. C J.
Speaker 1: Henderson is not this defensive issue like he is right
Speaker 1: spot Like the fact that we're focused on him is
Speaker 1: a mistake. He's not the problem. No, he's not the problem,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be a really good player. I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you. The one concern that I had with
Speaker 1: him was his tackling. And I think, aside from not
Speaker 1: touching down a guy in the first couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: has been he's been think about this and I said
Speaker 1: this on the broadcast, this would be a preseason game
Speaker 1: number three for the kid. Usually you guess what he
Speaker 1: just got done playing in high school and college football
Speaker 1: where you don't tag them down because they're down, like
Speaker 1: it's it's not the end of the world. It's one play.
Speaker 1: Come on, we're making much of it. I agree, but
Speaker 1: he still should somebody should come on. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you shouldn't know better, Pete, but if you're gonna kill
Speaker 1: this kid for that one player, that's stupid. Look isn't
Speaker 1: the mental lap. So I'm not killing him for the
Speaker 1: way he played. If you had a grade him on
Speaker 1: the way his career started so far, he's probably a
Speaker 1: B player. He's played to a B level right now. No,
Speaker 1: he's an A as a first round draft pick with
Speaker 1: no preseason, the offseason, everything else. The way he's performed
Speaker 1: in the first three games. The first game he was
Speaker 1: very good, in the second game he was very good,
Speaker 1: and the third game he was a C plus. So
Speaker 1: it's a bat. He's a bat. No, no C plus,
Speaker 1: A plus plus. What's the point two? He's giving out
Speaker 1: grades on here like they gave out at USC when
Speaker 1: he was a studid pass pass um all right? Well, obviously,
Speaker 1: the big part of this defense, the the issue is
Speaker 1: a big issue is the lack of pass rush. Three
Speaker 1: sacks is here. They only have a handful of quarterback
Speaker 1: hits in comparison to a lot of other defenses in
Speaker 1: the league. Now, part of that is they haven't had
Speaker 1: the lead except for five minutes this year. You've still
Speaker 1: gotta get home a little bit more than this one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's the issue I have is if you watch that game,
Speaker 1: it's not just that they weren't sacking them. They weren't
Speaker 1: even bumping into him. They weren't even like in his face.
Speaker 1: They weren't flashing. I just don't don't even remember. I
Speaker 1: don't remember the five quarterback hits. I don't remember them.
Speaker 1: No either. He was sitting back there like stepping up
Speaker 1: like it was like seven on seven for him. It
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. And it's not like that was a good
Speaker 1: offensive line. So that's the big concern. Now they do
Speaker 1: they have two good? Those two good. Those rookies are
Speaker 1: gonna be good. Austin Jackson is a good kid and
Speaker 1: Keenly is going to be a good player. Yeah. I agree,
Speaker 1: but but again it's their third game. You just said
Speaker 1: the same thing about you should have beat him. Someone
Speaker 1: should have been there, right, and Alan sack, by the way, one,
Speaker 1: really that's a sack. That's not a Sackay, So let's
Speaker 1: think about their sacks they have three sacks. One was
Speaker 1: an effort to play, one was a Miles Jack inside rush,
Speaker 1: and the other one was chased on wasn't he rushed?
Speaker 1: That's right to beat sapphold. But that's it. So they
Speaker 1: have one sack where a defensive lineman slash pass rusher
Speaker 1: has beat the guy one And here, you know what,
Speaker 1: you got a chance this week because that offensive line
Speaker 1: I've seen him. I've seen him live, I saw him
Speaker 1: on tape and I'm gonna watch this tape again here
Speaker 1: so I'll see all three games. Um, they're not good,
Speaker 1: like they're bad. Bobby Hart right tackle, he stakes. They
Speaker 1: have Jony Williams who's basically a rookie because he would
Speaker 1: missed all last year at left tackle, right and he's
Speaker 1: okay guard. The guards are no good, no, and the
Speaker 1: center's decent. He's not bad. He has a chance. But
Speaker 1: that's it. They should get right this week. Then what
Speaker 1: you're saying they need, they should they need. If they
Speaker 1: don't get four sacks and ten quarterback hits for eight
Speaker 1: quarterback hits, that's a it's a problem because Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: and that's and they got skilled positions. Now they have
Speaker 1: five wide receivers who can threaten you, and they got
Speaker 1: Joe Mixing. If they don't get after them, it could
Speaker 1: be it could be not good. Well, what about the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. Radio people are all probably sitting up there saying, off,
Speaker 1: your offensive line is gonna get right. This is the
Speaker 1: chance to get right there? All right? I said that
Speaker 1: this morning. Everyone everyone in Jackson said, oh good, the
Speaker 1: Bengals with an easy schedules. You know what, Everyone in
Speaker 1: Cincinnati saying, we get our first win of the year. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously yeah. They the Eagles sacked Burrow eight times and
Speaker 1: they hit him eighteen times in the game yesterday. It
Speaker 1: was bru I had it on one of my games
Speaker 1: on I'm watching the games and he was just getting
Speaker 1: brutalized and he's kid man does he doesn't flinch? How
Speaker 1: about the Malik Jackson put on him? Malik Jackson lit
Speaker 1: him up one time with a penalty, but doesn't flinch,
Speaker 1: gets right back up there, stands in the pocket and
Speaker 1: and Tony, you know you talk about young quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: pocket presents. He has it well. And there's no if
Speaker 1: you watch him, Pete, there's no bouncing around or just
Speaker 1: he stands tall, and I'm like, I remember watching him
Speaker 1: against Cleveland and I'm sitting there watching the whole game
Speaker 1: and the game before against the Chargers, and I'm going,
Speaker 1: at some point he's gonna get a little bit gun
Speaker 1: shot because he's getting hammered. And he just stood there
Speaker 1: and stood there and just it. It's really impressive. Very
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a star. I'm already on records saying
Speaker 1: he's gonna win one or two Super Bowls in the
Speaker 1: next ten ten years. How about that. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of competition too, by the way. You know what's interesting
Speaker 1: about that too? About him, Um, he wasn't good enough
Speaker 1: to win the job at Ohio State, and his first
Speaker 1: year at l s U, everyone's like man man, fourth
Speaker 1: fifth rounder, and then he gets the right coaching, right system,
Speaker 1: and he's a star. And know what, that's who he is,
Speaker 1: because that's what we're seeing so far, and and he
Speaker 1: has a chip on his shoulder. I'm telling you, you
Speaker 1: know me, I've been around. I talked to the guys,
Speaker 1: I've talked to him on the side, and I think
Speaker 1: I told you guys the story. I asked two uh
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl, I said, if you had been healthy.
Speaker 1: Would you have come back around and won the national championship?
Speaker 1: And he went, I don't know. We can't say that,
Speaker 1: you know. And I told Joe Burrow that story because
Speaker 1: I like a quarterback and says, hell, yeah, I would have.
Speaker 1: I told Joe Burrow that story and he goes yeah,
Speaker 1: and he goes, you do realize that we beat him
Speaker 1: when he was there? Right? Yeah? I mean that's the
Speaker 1: kind of kid he is. He's got the chip on
Speaker 1: his shoulder. Yeah, he's uh, never forget he's a good one.
Speaker 1: They got their quarterback, now they've better. If the Bengals
Speaker 1: have half a brain, they'll go look at what happened
Speaker 1: to Andrew Luck his first four years and say, you
Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna spend the next two drafts. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get four offensive linement in the first two rounds
Speaker 1: each of those drafts. We're gonna build the best offensive
Speaker 1: linement line in the NFL because we have the kids.
Speaker 1: Or or you spend money to go get one or two,
Speaker 1: but there's a young, young one available. You spend money
Speaker 1: ago get one, but you build you ropp into line
Speaker 1: around him. Yeah, like you wouldn't end on Bock the
Speaker 1: Aery because he's getting a little older. You want to
Speaker 1: die who six years old? Seven years old? That's what
Speaker 1: you try. You don't want to end up like Indie
Speaker 1: did with Andrew Luck and lacerated organs and yeah stuff,
Speaker 1: whatssell shoulders did that? David Carr, I'll take a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff from me. You're not putting that on me. No,
Speaker 1: But if you had been there, you would, if you
Speaker 1: were healthy, you would. They would have had a better
Speaker 1: offensive line. But that's not the story that I hear. Anyways,
Speaker 1: they can talk all day one about his offensive line.
Speaker 1: He went home at five o'clocket. Well, let's not go
Speaker 1: down this cat. That's that's for the podcast. That's podcast.
Speaker 1: Pete is on fire tonight. I must say we're back
Speaker 1: in a moment. We'll have fliving around to the offensive side.
Speaker 1: And James Robinson had another nice day at the office
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Speaker 1: of yards in college or a lot of yards in
Speaker 1: high school, and you know, you really can't see a
Speaker 1: lot of the protection part of it, um, So you
Speaker 1: really look at it, hey, can you know, can you
Speaker 1: do it in a one on one situation? And you know,
Speaker 1: we started doing some one on one pass protection um,
Speaker 1: you know, during training camp, and I was like, holy cow,
Speaker 1: I mean he's and I didn't realize how how good
Speaker 1: he was it really covering guy's up body and him
Speaker 1: up the strength and explosion he had. Then I kind
Speaker 1: of go back and I went back at the weight
Speaker 1: room stuff, and look at that. He's one of our
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying during training camp, which what he
Speaker 1: can do as far as his lower body explos explosion.
Speaker 1: And then it was just a matter of you know, hey,
Speaker 1: listen to this guy's gonna be able to hold onto
Speaker 1: the football when he gets hit in the NFL. And
Speaker 1: I think that he's proven that. It's Doug Broone today
Speaker 1: discussing running back James Robinson, what a start that's been
Speaker 1: to his NFL career and welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour,
Speaker 1: j P, Shadrick, Pete, Frisco, Tony Boselli. Uh and yeah,
Speaker 1: let's flip it around here to the offensive side. And
Speaker 1: this has been a fantastic bright spot for the for
Speaker 1: the Jags so far this year. Robinson is the only
Speaker 1: undrafted player in NFL history to post at least three
Speaker 1: hundred scrimmage yards and multiple touchdowns through three games, and
Speaker 1: his scrimmage yardage total of three thirty nine is the
Speaker 1: most ever by an undrafted player through three games. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you could ask for much of a
Speaker 1: better start than we've seen from James Robinson. Pete No,
Speaker 1: and again, you guys know my theory on running backs,
Speaker 1: you can find them anywhere. They found one. He's tough,
Speaker 1: he's physical, he can catch the football, he's a willing
Speaker 1: blocker in the passing game. What's not to like about
Speaker 1: the kid? He is their guy right now. He will
Speaker 1: be there starting running back for a while. And you
Speaker 1: know what, they traded away Leonard Fournette, And granted there
Speaker 1: were other issues there, but they looked at this kid
Speaker 1: and they said he is what Leonard four Nette is not.
Speaker 1: He makes people miss uh. And he's a good kid
Speaker 1: around the locker room. And not that Leonardard. That was
Speaker 1: a bad guy. He just that he didn't fit with
Speaker 1: what they wanted to do. It makes all the sense
Speaker 1: in the world. I love the kid. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a big time runner. Well they yeah, well
Speaker 1: they didn't trade Leonard. They let him go. That's why
Speaker 1: I said they got rid of him. You said they traded.
Speaker 1: You said trade, Yeah, I mean I thought I expect
Speaker 1: more from a national person. But they got rid of
Speaker 1: They dumped them usually that's what. Yeah. The yeah, he's
Speaker 1: listen if you flash those stat's back up. The one
Speaker 1: thing that stands out you gotta get more touches in
Speaker 1: the run game. You only had eleven carries against the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Not part of that's because you're playing from behind, so
Speaker 1: it's hard to stick to the run. But everything Pete
Speaker 1: SAIDs right. He is. Uh, he's a good back. He
Speaker 1: can make you miss, he's good in space, he's you know,
Speaker 1: I think the only question you would have is is
Speaker 1: he a home run threat? You know we haven't seen him.
Speaker 1: You know, we've seen him make like the twenties thirty
Speaker 1: yard run. You know that was the one knock I
Speaker 1: guess of him coming out was his forty time And
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was actually at the combine,
Speaker 1: but four or six they said, I think it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I mean that was only but he has enough
Speaker 1: short area speed and quickness that he makes people miss
Speaker 1: and he whatever he ran at the combine, he plays
Speaker 1: faster than he ran. The home run. Was Emmett Smith
Speaker 1: at home run threat? Yeah, I think he was. I
Speaker 1: mean he had the ability to take because I don't
Speaker 1: think his forty time was much better than that. What
Speaker 1: what did you say? He was JP four six four
Speaker 1: the combine. Yeah, that's slow. And I don't remember when
Speaker 1: emmt ran at to get the combine, but I don't
Speaker 1: it was four five something, remember, correct? But if you
Speaker 1: run four six at the combine and you play and
Speaker 1: you run four six with pads on, there's certain guys
Speaker 1: pet you know this, that whatever they run at the combine,
Speaker 1: they were just as fast or faster on the field
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. And there's guys who can run four
Speaker 1: four at the combine and they get in the game
Speaker 1: and they put pads on there like a four seven, right,
Speaker 1: And I've seen received Emmett ran four seven? Is that possible.
Speaker 1: M hm No. Emmett in Gainesville at the Pro Day
Speaker 1: ran at four or five to take that. At the
Speaker 1: combine he ran four seven. Wow. Wow. Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of who your minds you a little
Speaker 1: bit of is Emitt? I mean I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: he's Emmett Smith, but you know what I mean. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. He put it on Twitter Twitter, Prescot
Speaker 1: is Kame Drumson is the next Smith. He's building the
Speaker 1: bus already for him. Put it out here. He runs
Speaker 1: like him a little bit. He said, he said he's
Speaker 1: at Smith tom Brady in the pocket, But I don't
Speaker 1: think he's tom Brady. Um. Yeah, he's listen. He was
Speaker 1: the bright spot of that game, without a doubt, and
Speaker 1: he's been, you know, one of the big bright spots
Speaker 1: of this entire team in three games. I mean the
Speaker 1: fact that you found him undrafted and you go from
Speaker 1: thinking that Leonard Fournette was gonna play at his contract
Speaker 1: here to cutting him. I mean, let's not forget. I
Speaker 1: mean Leonard was about eighty percent of the offense last year. Year.
Speaker 1: Whole offense ran through him. You you get rid of
Speaker 1: him and you go to the undrafted guy. I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone could imagine it working out as well. And
Speaker 1: it was go ahead. Remember it was real good. Good
Speaker 1: for him to have that game on national TV Thursday night,
Speaker 1: not people know who he is. Yeah, and remember last
Speaker 1: year the Jags had three rushing touchdowns all season, and
Speaker 1: Robinson has three through three games. So you can find
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's it's it's as good right now. Three
Speaker 1: and three is the same Tony, but he's off to
Speaker 1: a quicker pace. Let's say, once they get down there
Speaker 1: at least he can he can punch it in when
Speaker 1: it's time to touch. Touchdown stats can be overrated at
Speaker 1: times to a little misleading. Yeah, but only three for
Speaker 1: the entire year. Yeah, that's not misleading at all. That's
Speaker 1: just not good. Um, and they were not good at
Speaker 1: that last year. Now, Gardner's game. We touched on this
Speaker 1: earlier as well, and obviously Week one nineteen it's twenty
Speaker 1: afficient as can be. H. Not a bad outing. Week two,
Speaker 1: you know, statistically at least a couple interceptions in the game.
Speaker 1: But then on Thursday night interception no touchdowns, was playing
Speaker 1: catchup all game? What did you see at a gardener
Speaker 1: on Thursday night and is it concerning and can he
Speaker 1: bounce back? Or is this what Gardner is going to be?
Speaker 1: Kind of hot cold? As we move along feet what
Speaker 1: do you think? I think this is who he's going
Speaker 1: to be. I think you can look great for little
Speaker 1: spurts and look awful for others. That's who he is.
Speaker 1: He's inconsistent. He's a six round pick who's six ft tall,
Speaker 1: doesn't have a big arm. I mean, what do you
Speaker 1: expect him to be? I mean what what could anybody
Speaker 1: legitimately expect him to be? To be the franchise quarterback?
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's not happening. You know. It happened
Speaker 1: with a six round pick in New England. But he
Speaker 1: also happened to be six ft five and had a
Speaker 1: good strong arm. I mean, there are limitations to his game.
Speaker 1: And I look, you gotta love the kid for all moxie,
Speaker 1: the way he handles himself, being a professional. He plays hard,
Speaker 1: he's competitive, but there are limitations. That's the reality of it,
Speaker 1: and you can't sometimes you just can't get over those limitations.
Speaker 1: Someone made the comparison to me, and I want to
Speaker 1: be your opinion on this. I'm not sure how where
Speaker 1: I land on it? As they said, Gardner Minshew is
Speaker 1: a young Ryan Fitzpatrick like he can get he can
Speaker 1: get hot for some games and then he will disappear
Speaker 1: for games and play poorly, really badly. And yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: that makes some sense. Smart quarterback knows where to go
Speaker 1: with the football, doesn't always have the biggest arm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's a decent comparison. I would say so,
Speaker 1: and and look that means he's gonna have a long
Speaker 1: career in the NFL, but he might not ever be
Speaker 1: the star that you need him to be. That's that's
Speaker 1: why when people say, have you decided if he's a
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback? If you think he's any way, shape or
Speaker 1: form Ryan Fitzpatrick, And I could remember the Bills thought
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick was their franchise quarterback. Remember they pay him,
Speaker 1: And at the time I thought that was a major mistake.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get caught in situations where you are what
Speaker 1: you are and if I'm Jacksonville, I'm not sure he
Speaker 1: is going to be the guy that can lead me
Speaker 1: to where I need to go. Answer the question you
Speaker 1: need to ask yourself this tonty, and there aren't many
Speaker 1: of them. If everything is going bad, and the defense
Speaker 1: is playing bad, and the receivers aren't playing great, the
Speaker 1: running game is not working. Is he a quarterback that
Speaker 1: can rise above it all and lead your team to
Speaker 1: a victory? Well, I look at it, and I say
Speaker 1: it differently, Pete. I always say you know you have
Speaker 1: your guy when you look at him and say he
Speaker 1: can lead us to a super Bowl and to lead
Speaker 1: a team to a super Bowl outside of the off
Speaker 1: her And I think it's more. I think it's even
Speaker 1: more imperative now because the way the game is constructed,
Speaker 1: in the rules that are around it. Um canna can
Speaker 1: he take you? Like? Can you say he could take
Speaker 1: me to the super Bowl? Because they do that. There's
Speaker 1: all be moments during the season where he has to
Speaker 1: put you on the team on his back and like
Speaker 1: just rise above and get it done. And and I
Speaker 1: think that's the question. If I'm you know, Seoan Don
Speaker 1: and Dave Caldwell and Doug Marone, I'm that's the question
Speaker 1: I'm asking myself myself. Is he the guy that at
Speaker 1: the end of it I can see holding the Lobarti
Speaker 1: Trophy on the stage after winning a Super Bowl? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean, Okay, let's say the Jets are asking themselves
Speaker 1: that question now with Sam Donald, aren't they? I mean,
Speaker 1: these are legitimate questions and and and no reason I
Speaker 1: bring up the Jets is they're probably gonna be were
Speaker 1: the worst. They're gonna probably not win a game this year.
Speaker 1: They're bad. And so now do the Jets now take
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and take you out of that sweep stakes
Speaker 1: if you have a bad year and you can talk
Speaker 1: all you want Tony about oh well, you don't want
Speaker 1: to take your head. You don't what yes you do,
Speaker 1: because if you get Trevor Lawrens, just like the Bengals
Speaker 1: now Joe Burrow, you will be set for a decade
Speaker 1: at least. So that matters. And that's why I don't
Speaker 1: know if he I'd lean more towards the know right now,
Speaker 1: because the guy, when you see him, you know it well,
Speaker 1: I mean to me, it sounds like you've already made
Speaker 1: the decision. He's not the guy I'm leading that way,
Speaker 1: And I don't want I didn't want to. I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I like the kid. I think he's a
Speaker 1: good competitor and good player, but you know what the
Speaker 1: guy looks like? Okay, I'll give you one. Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: You knew he looked like that, and people said, oh,
Speaker 1: he can't do it. He won't do it. He's an
Speaker 1: agative when you can take what he had and turn
Speaker 1: it into what he is. The last fourteen games, thirty
Speaker 1: three touchdown, three picks for Josh Allen. Some people I
Speaker 1: know we're right about Josh Allen. Some people I wonder
Speaker 1: who that is. That would be me. How about this scenario,
Speaker 1: What if Gardner it's better and they win eight games
Speaker 1: and they get in the playoffs somehow, and the defense
Speaker 1: plays better, like all of a sudden it's a playoff
Speaker 1: team or close to it or knocking on the door. Well,
Speaker 1: and that's what he's got a show in the next
Speaker 1: thirteen games. He's got to show that he could stand
Speaker 1: in the pocket and not leave because Tony's right, he's
Speaker 1: still doing it, and not start spinning around and feeling
Speaker 1: herky jerky in the pocket. It's not just when he
Speaker 1: leaves the hrcy putting the ball in his hands like this.
Speaker 1: He does that a lot too. That is what it
Speaker 1: looks like. By the way, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: You know exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. You don't have to decide
Speaker 1: right now though, in thirteen games. No, but you can
Speaker 1: start rooting against yourself. No, it's too well, you got
Speaker 1: you gotta winning eleven games and they better get on
Speaker 1: a little run here. They're gonna get hot. Are you
Speaker 1: amending that? No? Too, But that means that that means
Speaker 1: you have to take another because that was one you
Speaker 1: had in the pocket. Let means you have to find
Speaker 1: the eleventh game somewhere else. Well, yeah, the Vikings, I'm
Speaker 1: picking that one back up because they're terrible. They're they're bad,
Speaker 1: they're bad. So there's one. I got one back right there.
Speaker 1: You're sticking to eleven. This is a muscle win though
Speaker 1: this week JP I think he's coming off of it.
Speaker 1: This This is one where you have to have I'll
Speaker 1: be honest with you. If they don't win this week,
Speaker 1: I'm worried about the five that I said, who who's
Speaker 1: after the Bengals, the Texans and then they're terrible. They
Speaker 1: lost to the Chiefs, the Ravens, and the Steelers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're owing three against three really good teams. We have
Speaker 1: one more win. We're better. The only thing that matters
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Speaker 1: some roster moves today. We mentioned the defensive tackle added
Speaker 1: to the active roster from the practice squad earlier. They've
Speaker 1: assigned a kicker as well. Stephen Hauska signed to the
Speaker 1: active roster. The veteran now in his thirteen NFL season,
Speaker 1: most of that time, most notably was with Seattle. He
Speaker 1: has a Super Bowl ring with the Seahawks, spent the
Speaker 1: last couple of three seasons with the Bills, and there's
Speaker 1: an eight six percent field goal kicker in his career,
Speaker 1: so he's on the active roster. The Jags also waived
Speaker 1: injured Brandon Wright, who injured his growing in his NFL
Speaker 1: debut Thursday night, and they've added Aldrich Rosas to the
Speaker 1: team's practice squad. So some kicking transactions today. Pete not
Speaker 1: not ideal. Two more weeks for Josh Lambo at least
Speaker 1: on injured reserve, and Doug Marone said that he's recently
Speaker 1: come off crutches, so that was a little jarring to
Speaker 1: the ear today. Yeah, that's not a good thing whenever
Speaker 1: your kicker goes down. I mean the kickers. I'm a
Speaker 1: big believer that the kickers nowadays are better than they've
Speaker 1: ever been across and we've lost Pete. Will get back
Speaker 1: to him coming up, Tony, are you well? We lost
Speaker 1: Tony as well, so we'll get back to those guys
Speaker 1: in a moment. Yeah. Two more weeks at least for Lambeau,
Speaker 1: and as I think Pete was about to allude to,
Speaker 1: their the kicking around the league is strong, really has
Speaker 1: been strong over the last couple of years, especially things
Speaker 1: getting better. Peter, are you back with us now? You
Speaker 1: gotta Yeah, we lost we lost you guys. Sorry, well,
Speaker 1: you might have hurt each other, but the folks listening
Speaker 1: did not hear you two. Sorry well, I was saying
Speaker 1: that the kickers are better than they've ever been. So
Speaker 1: if you have a guy go down for a little
Speaker 1: period of time, you should have a decent kicker ready
Speaker 1: to step in and and and play. And the sad
Speaker 1: thing is that poor kid that they picked up NFL
Speaker 1: experience and he pulls a groin buzzle. I mean that
Speaker 1: was going to be his job for a while, right,
Speaker 1: what what's isn't that? What? Lambas to a groin? Hip?
Speaker 1: Hip injured? Okay? So different? Did he hurt that tackling
Speaker 1: somebody or something? But I don't remember him. Did he
Speaker 1: get blocked or so? When? What did he hurt that hip?
Speaker 1: It was during that game that he kicked it into
Speaker 1: the line. I don't know if that was during that time,
Speaker 1: but it was that game, So I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: Should we go to our resident expert on hips? Not me, um,
Speaker 1: not even a smile. You got him on his shoulder earlier.
Speaker 1: Now you're the hips, You're just you're mean, You're a
Speaker 1: bad person. Um. But I mean that poor kid though, right?
Speaker 1: Is it an opportunity? I'm gonna be a kicker. Missed
Speaker 1: the extra point? Did he heard it on the extra point?
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly, must have, must have he was
Speaker 1: gonna get said packing after that game, after the miss
Speaker 1: extra point, it wasn't so um, But obviously they would
Speaker 1: love to have Lambeau back in the fold at some point.
Speaker 1: He's been pretty darn close to the perfect throughout his
Speaker 1: time of the Jags. But again, think about that for
Speaker 1: a second. They picked him up off the scrap, right.
Speaker 1: So you know, kickers they get hot and they get cold.
Speaker 1: You know that, unless you're Baltimore's kicker, he just stays
Speaker 1: hot all the time. Just Lambo has been hot his
Speaker 1: whole time here. He's never been called right what I'm
Speaker 1: saying he was He was released by the Chargers. No, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't understand that. But that's a loss. I mean
Speaker 1: when you when you know you're gonna win tight games.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see the Jag Wars blowing people
Speaker 1: out this year. I mean, the kicker becomes very important.
Speaker 1: You see a lot of type games, a lot of
Speaker 1: THI games, You're gonna need that kicker, Need the kicker.
Speaker 1: They might need the kicker this week though. Actually, um
Speaker 1: some other changes today. They Jaguars released Timmy Journegan, who
Speaker 1: came here during training camp after the opt outs and
Speaker 1: the retirement uh, so he did not last long here.
Speaker 1: And Leon Jacobs with a knee injury Thursday night is
Speaker 1: on the reserve injured list. He's done for the years.
Speaker 1: That was bad. I hated seeing that for that kid.
Speaker 1: Did they show it on TV? Because I couldn't. We
Speaker 1: didn't get a good look at it. It was almost
Speaker 1: like a nonc like he just went down planet it was.
Speaker 1: It was non contact. As a player who played in
Speaker 1: the league, any relation to those kind of injuries to
Speaker 1: not having camp, I don't think the knees, most of
Speaker 1: the knees if you look at most of the c
Speaker 1: ls and people that getting rolled up on that just
Speaker 1: happens it Or like Barkley when he planned yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: one yeah. But who knows, I mean, isn't it isn't it?
Speaker 1: Isn't it the story every time Pete like something changes
Speaker 1: in the off season or preseason or something's different and
Speaker 1: oh this is because this X, Y and Z we
Speaker 1: practice last or practice war. I mean, who knows? And
Speaker 1: I think every year with the injuries, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is worse there's ever been. And
Speaker 1: it's like the same every year they're bad. It happened
Speaker 1: it's part of football. Guy, it's a it's a violent game.
Speaker 1: You know that. Guys get hurt. Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: the Jags have had their share already in training, camping,
Speaker 1: and certainly now in the first few weeks of the
Speaker 1: season they had to make all the moves. Today. Coming
Speaker 1: up in the second hour of Jaguar's Happy Hour, we'll
Speaker 1: recap all the big news of the day, getting ready
Speaker 1: for the Bengals this week and week four. We have
Speaker 1: social questions that were submitted earlier today. That's Tony's favorite segment.
Speaker 1: I mean, guess there's more. There's probably more social questions
Speaker 1: this week. After a bad loss, is my guess. Usually
Speaker 1: it's after the bad loss you get a lot of Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that happened on Thursday. If it happened yesterday, you
Speaker 1: probably a few days to let it kind of simmer away,
Speaker 1: so it's not as harsh as it would have been
Speaker 1: let's say, last week. Uh So, And we'll get our
Speaker 1: power rankings in the a f C South, of course,
Speaker 1: the all important power rankings, and we'll go around the
Speaker 1: National Football League. So one hour down, one hour ago,
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Speaker 1: second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour j P Shadrick, Pete
Speaker 1: Prisco and Tony Boselli recapping the Jags loss against the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins Thursday night in week three. It's on to
Speaker 1: Cincinnati this week in week four for the Jags with
Speaker 1: a one and two record, now third place in the
Speaker 1: a f C South. That was the head coach about
Speaker 1: the approach early this week heading into week four, But
Speaker 1: obviously the defense slow starting again in the last Thursday's
Speaker 1: game and loss, give up three consecutive touchdown drives to
Speaker 1: start the game, long sustained drives this time around. Then
Speaker 1: the offense playing catch up, but they couldn't catch up
Speaker 1: this last time, as they could the first two weeks
Speaker 1: of the season, and they had to do it without
Speaker 1: DJ Chark this week. Doug Brown said today that Shark
Speaker 1: they were waiting on a couple of tests just to
Speaker 1: make sure Chark would be good to go. It sounds
Speaker 1: like it's positive news though for the wide receiver moving ahead,
Speaker 1: and the Jags did sign a kicker today as well,
Speaker 1: Stephen Haushka, with Brandon Wright being waived injured with his
Speaker 1: groin injury and his NFL debut Thursday night. UM an
Speaker 1: early jump. We're just gonna get one here. I just
Speaker 1: saw a tweet come in for social questions talking on
Speaker 1: the defensive side here, The question is what's the split
Speaker 1: on the defensive side as far as who's at fault
Speaker 1: between scheme and execution? Is it play calling? Is at
Speaker 1: mental errors? And can it be improved? What's the field there, Tony? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think it's scheme JP watch him
Speaker 1: UM like, I don't see anything that is um unsound
Speaker 1: or you know, like they're getting out leveraged or just
Speaker 1: you know, you know bad, you know scheme. I don't
Speaker 1: see that now, you know, we're not at practice obviously,
Speaker 1: so how it's being taught, how it's being communicated. I
Speaker 1: mean that's part of coaching too. So much of it
Speaker 1: is everyone just wants to talk about scheme and you know,
Speaker 1: the excess and those part of it obviously very important,
Speaker 1: but also a big portion of coaching is can you
Speaker 1: communicate what you're trying to do and can guys understand
Speaker 1: it and can they execute it? Um, And so we're
Speaker 1: not there, I have no idea. Ah, I've always thought
Speaker 1: Todd Washing as a good coach. Um. I think you
Speaker 1: also have to look at the people you're on the
Speaker 1: field and look how young this defense is. And I
Speaker 1: think we knew there was major issues going in. Um,
Speaker 1: they lost the guys they brought in to stop the
Speaker 1: run and to plug up the interior of that defensive
Speaker 1: line to make it stronger and to get the push
Speaker 1: in the past game in the pass rush, they're not there.
Speaker 1: And the guys that you know, you know, you have
Speaker 1: a bunch of you have a bunch of guys in
Speaker 1: the interior that are rotational players, and you have a
Speaker 1: bunch of young guys on the outside. I don't think
Speaker 1: Chase on you know, I think he's got as the
Speaker 1: opportunity a really good UH football player, But we gotta
Speaker 1: remember he's going from an outside linebacker and now he's
Speaker 1: playing an every down, you know, defensive end, and that's
Speaker 1: gonna take time from the figure it out. So I
Speaker 1: think it's I think probably more than anything. Everyone's at
Speaker 1: fault always and so it's always dangerous saying well, it's coaching,
Speaker 1: it's players. It's usually both when you're not playing well.
Speaker 1: So I think both. I think both of the coaches
Speaker 1: and the players need to do a better job. But
Speaker 1: if you're looking for the magic bullet, I mean I
Speaker 1: saw I read some more. Someone on Twitter said, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, go get Wade Phillips to come in as
Speaker 1: a consultant, or you know, fire Todd Wash you don't
Speaker 1: do this or that or whatever. I mean, there's no
Speaker 1: magic bullet out there, um that all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you're gonna go from struggling UH to you know, being great.
Speaker 1: And if you look at it, look at the first
Speaker 1: two games. After the first quarter and a half, they
Speaker 1: played good defense, but there are big holes they were down.
Speaker 1: So they gotta start faster. They're gonna be more consistent,
Speaker 1: and they gotta find the pass rush. They I mean
Speaker 1: the biggest thing with this team right now is they
Speaker 1: gotta they have to learn to it. They have to
Speaker 1: figure out how do they affect quarterback. Maybe it's blitzing Moore,
Speaker 1: maybe Todd Washings to get out of his comfort zone
Speaker 1: a little bit and blitz more. It sounds like they
Speaker 1: hand be more aggressive. It sounds like they have Tony.
Speaker 1: I mean they've they've pranked up the heat percentages. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they did, they did, But maybe you gotta do more.
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, but they need to do something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what happens if they do more? Tony, what do
Speaker 1: you do? You you expose the young secondary and man
Speaker 1: coverage all over the place, and it's it's slow death
Speaker 1: or fast death, take your pick, right, and that what
Speaker 1: it is? Yes, what would you do? I want to
Speaker 1: hear what you would do? Um, I think I'd be
Speaker 1: more aggressive. You gotta start creating turnovers. I don't think
Speaker 1: you're gonna be good enough just to line up toe
Speaker 1: to toe with teams. I'm with you. I think you
Speaker 1: gotta get after him a little bit. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would do I bring miles Jack Moore. I Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd stunt and I'd line up in the a gap
Speaker 1: and come after people more. I don't I just I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I would get creative. You can't just sit
Speaker 1: back there and let them pick you apart. You don't
Speaker 1: have to. You know, ideally, any defense and you know
Speaker 1: this would love to be able to get home with
Speaker 1: four guys. They can't. Yeah, I mean Todd Wash has
Speaker 1: always said that, And then then they were able to
Speaker 1: do that a lot. Remember back in seventy that's how
Speaker 1: they played a lot of the defense that year is
Speaker 1: rush for drop seven and make some big plays. But
Speaker 1: they also have some different personnel back. But that's the
Speaker 1: Seattle way. That's where Gusts came from. That Gusts came
Speaker 1: from Seattle where they play that cover three and rushed
Speaker 1: with the four guys and get pressure and now and
Speaker 1: Todd Wash kind of learned at the foot of Gusts.
Speaker 1: So where's what does Gusts doing? Sit with the chargers
Speaker 1: now there and they're good, they're good defensively, right, So
Speaker 1: it's not a matter of scheme, it's a matter of players.
Speaker 1: You have to have your players. You have to fit
Speaker 1: the scheme to the players that you have. So okay,
Speaker 1: so what would you do with chas On then No,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not saying I think. I mean I
Speaker 1: worry about like when I see him and Josh Allen
Speaker 1: out there together, which they jp Amy snaps, they did
Speaker 1: that together, but I saw it more and more against Miami.
Speaker 1: And if you get it tied into him, I mean
Speaker 1: he's I mean he's not a big he's not he's
Speaker 1: an undersized not undersized, but you know he's a smaller
Speaker 1: defensive enage. And if you were all tied into him
Speaker 1: now with a SUDD, he's getting doubled. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just it's a different game. And and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he can't do it, Like I think he's super talented.
Speaker 1: I like him, but I just no preseason abbreviated the
Speaker 1: camp and he's playing a position he did not play
Speaker 1: in college. I mean, JP, you watched a lot of
Speaker 1: SEC football. He was a stand up linebacker, was part. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Well what was Josh Allen? And he was at Kentucky.
Speaker 1: You stood up a little more than he put his
Speaker 1: hand down also, Okay, So why wouldn't you stand them
Speaker 1: both up then and go and put three big guys inside,
Speaker 1: go to the more three four. My question with that
Speaker 1: would be Jack and and Showber hold up as inside
Speaker 1: backers in that. But the Harvard you can't do that.
Speaker 1: Then there in the middle of season, you can't make
Speaker 1: that decision. I would I'll be honest with you. I
Speaker 1: probably would have thought about doing that before this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but here's the things together in a regular off season,
Speaker 1: maybe right since you're on the field with wasn't that
Speaker 1: the plan last year? That when that was the that
Speaker 1: was the if a got Way had showed up normal
Speaker 1: at the usual time that he and Josh Allen were
Speaker 1: going to stand up and ever played more of a
Speaker 1: three four? Could you play could you play like the
Speaker 1: Broncos do with those two guys? Do you do anything
Speaker 1: you want? You did? You have to put it in?
Speaker 1: Why didn't they put more of it in? And and
Speaker 1: they maybe they didn't feel confident with a young football
Speaker 1: team making that many changes and they had all the
Speaker 1: opt outs and a bunch of changes going on. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can get it. It's hard. Who would you? I mean,
Speaker 1: if you had to play that way, you'd play what
Speaker 1: abriy on the nose or Hamilton's on the nose? You'd
Speaker 1: play Taven, Brian and Gostus. But you can do it. No,
Speaker 1: but it's a different scheme. Peat. You don't just you know,
Speaker 1: you don't just wake up. You don't wake wake up
Speaker 1: Monday morning today. Well okay, but when you drafted two
Speaker 1: hundred fifty pounds stand up linebacker to go with your
Speaker 1: other two two or fifty five pounds stand up linebacker
Speaker 1: in April, you think about it, that's fair interesting offense. Now.
Speaker 1: Of course, the we touched on James Robinson in the
Speaker 1: first hour of the program and how his start has
Speaker 1: been its historic is what it is. He's the He
Speaker 1: has the most scrimmage yards of any undrafted player in
Speaker 1: league history through three games. And you can't ask much
Speaker 1: more of James Robinson. The quarterback play last week statistically
Speaker 1: was not there. But it's week three. We've got a
Speaker 1: long way to go, Pete, and this is a group
Speaker 1: that we saw flashes of what they could do earlier
Speaker 1: this season. As an offense, we's got to see a
Speaker 1: little more consistently. What's got to be frustrating two fans
Speaker 1: out there is one of the things that everybody talked
Speaker 1: about was if the offensive line gets better, then they'll
Speaker 1: be better. Well, the offensive line has been better up
Speaker 1: until late in the game when Camber Robinson went out.
Speaker 1: The other day, cam Robinson has played better than he's
Speaker 1: played at any point in his career. He's played really well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think the two guards are playing well. Linda
Speaker 1: Shatley Lender wasn't playing to his level that you normally expect. Um,
Speaker 1: but I thought Chatley did a good job stepping in
Speaker 1: and the right tackle up until late in the game
Speaker 1: last week had been pretty good. That line hadn't been
Speaker 1: an issue, and so I think they can get back
Speaker 1: to doing the things they need to do running the football. Um,
Speaker 1: and I think this is a Bengals team. Teams have
Speaker 1: run on the Bengals. I mean you saw the Browns.
Speaker 1: The Browns gas for what two U fifty yards that
Speaker 1: Thursday night game. Yeah, it was a you know, the
Speaker 1: track meet. Yeah, So I think you can run on
Speaker 1: him if you do have your Now the question is
Speaker 1: is and I don't know what the injury report is,
Speaker 1: but back for that game, there was no Geno Atkins. No,
Speaker 1: no Mike Daniel right, and are they are they back
Speaker 1: this week? I haven't seen any reports yet. No, But
Speaker 1: I mean Geno act different player in there. It's a
Speaker 1: different defense when he's in there. That's my point. He's bad,
Speaker 1: much more difficult. Hey, Tony, what do you make of
Speaker 1: the sorry Pete? Would you make it the ejection of
Speaker 1: cam Robinson? Do you see the replace? I thought it
Speaker 1: was bogus. I mean, first of all, he's on a
Speaker 1: I'm a pile diving fighting for a ball. He has
Speaker 1: no idea who's on top of him. People are on
Speaker 1: top of me. You try to get up pushing people around,
Speaker 1: and I mean, and it happened to be the officials
Speaker 1: arm I just don't think if your official you throw
Speaker 1: the flag there, you give a little bit of you
Speaker 1: have to understand their circumstances. It wasn't like Camber Robbins
Speaker 1: was purposely going after the official, which if you do
Speaker 1: in contact official in that way you should be ejected.
Speaker 1: But in that circumstance, no, I thought it was important.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a really poor call. But the
Speaker 1: official overreacted and did not take into account you know
Speaker 1: where they were what was going on, um fighting for
Speaker 1: the ball? I mean, I don't. I thought it was
Speaker 1: really poor. I agree, I thought that was a terrible call.
Speaker 1: By the way Daniels played against the Eagles, so he'll
Speaker 1: be in for sure. Um, I look at the official.
Speaker 1: He overreacted to something that he thought he saw and
Speaker 1: felt that wasn't there, and and somebody should have stepped
Speaker 1: in and said, look, I saw it. It wasn't that bad.
Speaker 1: It just you don't do that in that pile. Been
Speaker 1: in a pile, you know what goes on, and there
Speaker 1: guys are flowling and trying to get up and get
Speaker 1: out of there. That was a terrible call by the official.
Speaker 1: I thought, Yeah, unfortunate for the Jags, certainly for Cam Robinson.
Speaker 1: All right, let's come back. I hope he I hope
Speaker 1: he I hope he fights it. I hope he goes.
Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't. I hope he's appealing it because
Speaker 1: that's they shouldn't otherwise it's a big that's an expensive, expensive,
Speaker 1: expensive fun Let's come back. Social media questions right around
Speaker 1: the corner. We still have to go around the A
Speaker 1: s C. South and we'll recap week three in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: By the way, we were mentioning the Cam Robinson ejection
Speaker 1: last week. According to the fine schedule through the NFL
Speaker 1: Operations website the official site, the first offense fine for
Speaker 1: against a game official physical contact with an officials thirty
Speaker 1: five thousand and ninety six dollars. Now, by the way,
Speaker 1: if you watched the video, there were he one hand
Speaker 1: of one official and then a hand of another official.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious if it's one offense or two. I'm
Speaker 1: guessing it's one since it's one ejection, but a second
Speaker 1: offense would be seventy one dred dollars and change. He's
Speaker 1: gonna keep his hands off the official. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's adds up quick. That is pricey, though when you
Speaker 1: think about it, grand it is. According to the fine schedule,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much the UH. It is tied with fighting
Speaker 1: for the most expensive first offense on the fine schedule
Speaker 1: in the entire sony. Ever, put your hands on a
Speaker 1: on an official, I don't know, good question problem, like
Speaker 1: maybe like maybe just to tap him or something and
Speaker 1: get his attention. Maybe you wouldn't never tried to push
Speaker 1: an a fish or anything. Oh no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean we've got some fights. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: it didn't like you're fighting and officials trying to break
Speaker 1: it up. I'm sure you touch him by accident or
Speaker 1: bump him or whatever, like throw him off. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you'd have been about You've probably have been thirty five
Speaker 1: grand light or a couple of different times then. But Pete,
Speaker 1: the rule were so much more laxed back then. They were.
Speaker 1: You could almost thrown an official to the ground. It
Speaker 1: was so load. I mean you like had I mean
Speaker 1: you get kicked out like it had to be like
Speaker 1: a closed punch to a player like you could. I
Speaker 1: mean the things you used to get away with back
Speaker 1: in the day, huh. I mean it's true, I told
Speaker 1: you that story. I was sitting around with some offensive
Speaker 1: lineman a couple of years ago out in Arizona at
Speaker 1: Bentley's Place. Out there, we were watching the Packers Cowboys
Speaker 1: game from when Reggie White and Gilbert Brown and those
Speaker 1: guys were playing that Cowboys offensive line. They wouldn't the
Speaker 1: last ten plays the way those guys were going at
Speaker 1: each other. I mean, and they some of those guys
Speaker 1: might have got arrested for some of the stuff they did.
Speaker 1: It incredible, you know. I mean we used to get
Speaker 1: guys in the ground. If you got a guy in
Speaker 1: the ground, you would go after him, diving form to head,
Speaker 1: face mask in their back. I mean you were just
Speaker 1: like gouging them and then like is beating the hell
Speaker 1: out of them on the ground. And by the time
Speaker 1: you had played the rules that calmed down a little bit.
Speaker 1: Since those rules and even go back, as you go
Speaker 1: back a decade, each decade, the rules have gotten amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the Gilbert Brown, Eric Williams I was about that
Speaker 1: was when I was coming in the league. So that's
Speaker 1: when you were coming in the league. Yeah, And so
Speaker 1: you can do I mean you could. You could cut
Speaker 1: guys in the back of their legs. I mean you could.
Speaker 1: I mean there were Broncos that Broncos used end careers
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, I mean you just went after
Speaker 1: him brutal. Let's get to social questions, now, Tony's favorite segment.
Speaker 1: The first question a right from at Jacob Reinhardt too.
Speaker 1: Was Thursday a fluke for Minshew? Or have we seen
Speaker 1: his ceiling? Thanks love you guys. Um, I don't like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Um. That's the question I have is
Speaker 1: what we saw in the first two weeks of season,
Speaker 1: is that his ceiling? Is that like the best of Minshew?
Speaker 1: I hope not. I hope you can still get better.
Speaker 1: And I'm holding out like belief that he's going to
Speaker 1: get better throughout this season. So I'm gonna say it's
Speaker 1: a fluke and we have not seen the ceiling. But
Speaker 1: that's a great question and we'll find out to the
Speaker 1: next thirteen games. But how do you separate numbers from
Speaker 1: the ceiling? In other words, he's gonna his numbers were
Speaker 1: good last year and his numbers so far pretty good
Speaker 1: this year. But has he been good? Has he been
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Tony? You gotta divide them,
Speaker 1: take the numbers and push him to the side sometimes
Speaker 1: and just watch him to make your determination. The other
Speaker 1: day was not good. I don't care what his numbers were.
Speaker 1: It was not good. The Tennessee game a lot of
Speaker 1: really good. It's not bad. The Indianapolis game, the numbers
Speaker 1: were good, but he didn't throw the ball down the
Speaker 1: field a grating opening day was quarterback rated guy? No, no,
Speaker 1: he's not. And how many throws has he completed down
Speaker 1: the field? There was one to Chark for sure that
Speaker 1: got Shark hurt. But you have three games and you
Speaker 1: can almost think about him on off the top of
Speaker 1: your head without it right the chart. Well yeah, but
Speaker 1: commonly had a dropped this week on the underthrown one,
Speaker 1: that would have been a big play. Mhm um, yeah,
Speaker 1: not a lot, right. See. So I think the answer
Speaker 1: to that question is Thursday might have been an aberration
Speaker 1: of some sorts. But I don't know where the sea.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the ceiling is that much higher
Speaker 1: than what we've seen already from him. And that's the
Speaker 1: scary part. I think it goes back to the other thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, because he's still young quarterbacks, you want to
Speaker 1: give him time. But when I can't get over and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's fair, and I could be this
Speaker 1: could be so wrong. Um Like, when you think about
Speaker 1: worries at his young quarterback, his numbers probably like Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: um go back, you know, think of a guy like
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of shorter guys like uh, Russell Wilson early
Speaker 1: in his career. Um, let's just just just think, uh,
Speaker 1: Murray and Wilson younger in their careers, probably similar numbers.
Speaker 1: Min Sho's numbers might be better. But don't you have
Speaker 1: didn't you have a different feeling about Russell Wilson and
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray because of just the talent, the armed talent
Speaker 1: that they both have, Like they can just make throws
Speaker 1: that are unreal, and and Minshew is good escaping, but
Speaker 1: he's not a runner. They were runners. They're both runners. Like,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's where I keep on getting stuck with
Speaker 1: Minshew mentally, Like, and I go back and forth because
Speaker 1: I wanted to be able to do it and I
Speaker 1: wanted to be the guy because it be great. Um,
Speaker 1: but you knew that those guys, like, you know, Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray has a high ceiling because of his freakish that
Speaker 1: letic ability and the howitzer he has for a right arm.
Speaker 1: You knew that Russell Wilson had a huge, like off
Speaker 1: the chart ceiling because of his freakish athlete and I
Speaker 1: mean he has a gun and he is as accurate
Speaker 1: as any quarterback in the NFL. Like, so you knew,
Speaker 1: like the like if they could figure out the pace
Speaker 1: of like Russell Wilson's issue was pocket presidents work in
Speaker 1: the pocket, not getting out too early, and like you
Speaker 1: felt like, hey, give him time, he'll figure that out. Um.
Speaker 1: And when you think about Minhi, what is like what
Speaker 1: like what does he do exceptional? Like like he's like
Speaker 1: he has moxie, his composure, he is that kind of
Speaker 1: in fact are all very important, but it's not like
Speaker 1: he's a top level athlete, does not have a big arm,
Speaker 1: and so those are always things that you're going he's
Speaker 1: gonna have to work around. Here's all you have to
Speaker 1: do is look at the game this week and look
Speaker 1: at the two quarterbacks. Didn't you know looking at Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: they had their guy? Know it, three games don't be
Speaker 1: three but you know, and you're gonna let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question. Do you know that Arizona has their
Speaker 1: guy in Kylamurley? Yes? Yeah, I think you're right too,
Speaker 1: And I tend to agree there, Yeah you do, do you?
Speaker 1: But that's why I mean this game is a perfect example.
Speaker 1: He's played more games than Joe Burrow, many more games.
Speaker 1: But you know what Joe Burrow, you don't know with
Speaker 1: him yet well, and like it's funny if you go,
Speaker 1: like if you go over the last three years of
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks like Baker Mayfield, do you know he's the guy?
Speaker 1: I don't, No, Um, lam Jackson, Josh Allen, you do?
Speaker 1: Now you do? Lamar Jackson? Yes, Ma Homes obviously yes, Um,
Speaker 1: Sam Donald Non, No, I don't. You don't know, you don't.
Speaker 1: And he's an sc guy. I want to say yes,
Speaker 1: but I don't. But I mean, could you. I mean
Speaker 1: that team is terrible. It's it's unfair to But again,
Speaker 1: if you put my Homes as is with the Jets,
Speaker 1: would would you know that Mahomes was the guy? I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's hard. They're so bad, they're awful. And
Speaker 1: if you look at Donald, he has he has armed talent,
Speaker 1: and he's had moments like last year where he was
Speaker 1: good at the end of last season six and two.
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's a hard position to make judgments on.
Speaker 1: And that's where Carson wentz the guy. Wow, that's a
Speaker 1: great question. Beat. I haven't watched any Eagles games. He's
Speaker 1: been awful, tony awful. Yeah, before he was MVP guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we'll barry guys quick and we'll annoint guys quick.
Speaker 1: I mean we're we, I mean we all Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: we thought was done, was never gonna play football, were
Speaker 1: quarterback at the high level again. And he goes to
Speaker 1: New England. He's getting paid a million dollars and they're
Speaker 1: they're gonna compete, They're gonna go to the playoffs probably,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna give the Bills a run for their
Speaker 1: money in these I think the Bills are better. But
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great It's gonna be a great. Well,
Speaker 1: he went through the Belle, he went through the belotchick
Speaker 1: car washes all the stink off you when you get there.
Speaker 1: Question at Meadow World crazy, How will the Jaguars defense
Speaker 1: be able to stop Joe Burrow, Deshaun Watson, Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers, Lamar Jackson and Nick Foles. Okay,
Speaker 1: first of all, take Nick Folds out of that, Like
Speaker 1: you can't put him in the same category with those
Speaker 1: other guys. Yesterday Okay, he didn't even complete sixty of
Speaker 1: his passes yesterday. Um No, I think I think we
Speaker 1: have a hard time. Like Shaun Watson isn't playing that well.
Speaker 1: Right now as I watched the tape. Um, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen Stafford this year, but staff played well yesterday. Roethlisberger's
Speaker 1: put that back up. Roethlisberger is playing well. Um, Rodgers
Speaker 1: playing great, Roger Free, Lamar Jackson is uncle real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a it's a. Here. Here's the advice. If you're
Speaker 1: playing in fantasy, make sure you play those quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: come on you're you're terrible. Well you want to win
Speaker 1: your fantasy league. That's your fantasy advice. And go back
Speaker 1: over that list. Yeah, I've got it. I've got it.
Speaker 1: So Joe Brown coming out of that list of those
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you see right there that are up. Who um,
Speaker 1: which of the which? Which one? Which are those quarterbacks
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars beat I think they'll beat Watson, Davin
Speaker 1: beat Watson once. They might be Burrow. They am beaten.
Speaker 1: M with that defense. They beating the rest of them.
Speaker 1: One thing about Matt Stafford, his team might stink, but
Speaker 1: he he slings it around. Now, well, I mean, but
Speaker 1: that's you have to take the team. So you don't
Speaker 1: think they'll beat the Lions? No, I don't. Okay of
Speaker 1: this grouping in here, Okay, that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
Speaker 1: Where are you getting eleven wins at? Who are they being?
Speaker 1: Who are they beating out of that group? Burrow Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll just say Burrow, okay, bowls there's two, Um and
Speaker 1: Watson twice, that's four. Five When they play when we
Speaker 1: always when we we, we always beat their Steelers, that's six.
Speaker 1: When they play fools, all you have to do is
Speaker 1: yelled at him, Nick, you're starting. Remember you're starting, You're
Speaker 1: out the back, You're starting. I said that to that
Speaker 1: the other day. I did it hit the other day
Speaker 1: on that on our stuff, and they said if I
Speaker 1: was Matt Maggie, I'd make Drabinsky play the first place
Speaker 1: of could come up the back. He's more comfortable. It's
Speaker 1: hard to argue that. Our next question at six with
Speaker 1: it is taven a bus. Why won't they sign a
Speaker 1: free agent to help? Alden Smith was signed off the
Speaker 1: street and leads the NFL and sex So the narrative
Speaker 1: that there's no one available to help is false. Well,
Speaker 1: wait a second. All the Smith thing is unique, and
Speaker 1: the guy was out in the league. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a great story. And he actually ran into Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: in the offseason and that thing was broken. I mean,
Speaker 1: and so they take that woman. That's yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: can't count it never happen. Um, isn't He isn't feeling
Speaker 1: a role that they really mean? They have to suppose
Speaker 1: it pass rushers that they build around here. They need
Speaker 1: big bodies. If you're gonna you're gonna kill Taven, You're
Speaker 1: not gonna replace him with Alvin Smith. That's not the same.
Speaker 1: They don't play the same position. Is Taven a boss? No?
Speaker 1: Is he serviceable? Yes? Is he anything more? No? So
Speaker 1: you're saying he's not a bus for a first rounder, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, considering he was picked out of Lamar
Speaker 1: jack that is amazing when you think about that. I mean,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is arguably you know in quarterback. Where would
Speaker 1: you put Lamar Jackson? Ranking him in quarterbacks today? Top five? Yeah,
Speaker 1: think about it. They passed on they could watch the
Speaker 1: game tonight. They passed on the homes for Leonard Fournette.
Speaker 1: They passed on Lamar Jackson for Tavin Bryan. That just
Speaker 1: that hurts my feelings. You're gonna be doing the game tonight.
Speaker 1: You could sit there in their entire time thinking about
Speaker 1: what could have been. Yeah, the Lamar Jackson on Taven
Speaker 1: I mean the my homes, Like I don't like any
Speaker 1: of those, but like maybe I remember sitting there at
Speaker 1: that draft and we were talking like Lamar is on
Speaker 1: the table still. I mean, he's still there on the
Speaker 1: board and you can go get him. And uh, obviously
Speaker 1: they didn't and the Ravens did. Everyone in Baltimore is
Speaker 1: happy but to be as good as he is now.
Speaker 1: But Pete, I disagree with that. I think people like
Speaker 1: knew he's remember watching him in college. He's a freakish.
Speaker 1: He's a freak when it comes at least like you
Speaker 1: watch them like it's unbelievable watching him against NFL players,
Speaker 1: how he makes them look. And now you know what
Speaker 1: he's doing in the pocket. He's standing there slinging it
Speaker 1: and and everybody in the Ravens organization says, first one in,
Speaker 1: last one out. So he's working his butt off to
Speaker 1: get better, and he's Betty, I'm better. I get him
Speaker 1: all the credit in the world. I didn't think he'd
Speaker 1: be as good as he is. He is really good.
Speaker 1: The only reason, I mean, you know, he's still young.
Speaker 1: It's probably early to says bust Picked in the twenties.
Speaker 1: But is he a first Is he giving you first
Speaker 1: round production right now? Though? But but I'm gonna reference
Speaker 1: a guy that was picked in the twenties that played
Speaker 1: for you guys, Ronaldo Win was picked into twenties. Is
Speaker 1: he as good as Ronaldo Win? It's hard to say,
Speaker 1: because we're all those on some good teams, good defenses.
Speaker 1: Soul wasn't as good. He wasn't good. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, we're all of them. No. Our next question
Speaker 1: from that the Josh Hampton is now the time to
Speaker 1: pay DJ Chark realizing how important he is to our offense. Well,
Speaker 1: they're gonna pay him eventually anyways, So yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: pay him at the end of the year, not during
Speaker 1: the pay at the end of the year when he
Speaker 1: was one year left before the third years over anyway.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's gonna get he's gonna get a new contact.
Speaker 1: That's not He's a building block. You pay building block.
Speaker 1: That's right. I agree, simple enough. And the final question
Speaker 1: from at STU under School Winners Real talk, Chaps. If
Speaker 1: we lose to the Bengals this weekend, are we done
Speaker 1: for the season? What does you mean? I don't even
Speaker 1: know what that means? What do you mean? What if
Speaker 1: you're what if you run off twelve in a row.
Speaker 1: He's not like you talking about the playoffs, is he?
Speaker 1: They were done before they kicked the ball off an
Speaker 1: opening week. Oh stop, They just why they're not a
Speaker 1: good team, and that's okay. What is It's not okay?
Speaker 1: First of all, trying to win games, it's not okay
Speaker 1: at all. But Pete just said it's okay. You lose,
Speaker 1: it's okay. Well you're building something, participating, that's great. You
Speaker 1: can get orange orange twice is in halftime, everyone gets,
Speaker 1: everyone gets a trophy, going for pizza after the game.
Speaker 1: You could have you should have kept a bunch of
Speaker 1: the veterans around. You could have went seven and nine maybe,
Speaker 1: and you've been You've been stuck in purgatory forever. It's
Speaker 1: better to lose games and get out of Okay, wait
Speaker 1: to say what veteran would you have kept? It would
Speaker 1: have added any game. I wouldn't kept any of them.
Speaker 1: Klais maybe, yeah, that's only won. But I'm saying why not?
Speaker 1: Just realized this season is what it is. It's about
Speaker 1: developing for next season. Is that a bad thing? It's
Speaker 1: week four. Ye, it is. It is when you peg
Speaker 1: him to win a left No, it's not the reason.
Speaker 1: It is what it's only week four. It is when
Speaker 1: you like, that's what the season is before they kicked
Speaker 1: off the building for something else, and when you thought
Speaker 1: this team has constructed, wasn't winning. It's not winning. What
Speaker 1: if they're two in one right now? Even if that's true,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. It's not even October,
Speaker 1: not even October yet, it's September already. I mean, they
Speaker 1: got a whole season left the next but Pete is
Speaker 1: saying JP and he might be right, Pete saying they
Speaker 1: have zero chance of doing anything productive from the win
Speaker 1: lost Calum this year, and so the whole folks should
Speaker 1: not be whether you win or lose, is are your
Speaker 1: young players getting better? Correct? That's what people right, And
Speaker 1: then you're going in the next year. You got a
Speaker 1: ton of draft capital, but it only matter and then
Speaker 1: you have money that only works beat if Gardnerman choose
Speaker 1: the guy, because if he's not the guy and you
Speaker 1: don't get a cop pick, then you are literally trying
Speaker 1: to go chase the quarterback and figure out how to
Speaker 1: you know, build build the build a winning team. That
Speaker 1: is to say, you only got one so far, so
Speaker 1: you're still in the running. We'll come back. Thank you
Speaker 1: for the social that makes sense. You're your idea, Pete
Speaker 1: makes sense if Gardner issues the guy. No, it makes
Speaker 1: sense if you had the first overall pick too. Okay,
Speaker 1: but there's only one team to get that right now.
Speaker 1: The Jets are a runaway for it. Yeah, but they'll
Speaker 1: fluke in the winner too. You might. Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they're gonna win one. But it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a bad thing. All right, let's come back. Social questions
Speaker 1: were a hit tonight. Thank you for your submissions today. Wait, JP,
Speaker 1: real quick, try to win one game and get Trevor
Speaker 1: Larns or win four and not get him win one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, but it's week four, JP. You're missing. The
Speaker 1: point is he is signed off. It is not going
Speaker 1: to win games. I understand. I understand. Back in a moment,
Speaker 1: I don't agree, but I understand. Uh, we'll go around
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Speaker 1: with us JP Shattrick, Tony, they are nobody. Where do
Speaker 1: you dry? Do you drive up and sit your car? Yes?
Speaker 1: Or just right outside? You can? You can put chairs
Speaker 1: outside of the car, but your distance. You know what
Speaker 1: if you have like a pickup truck, are you sitting
Speaker 1: in the back of the pickup truck? I think so?
Speaker 1: I think so. Have you ever gone to a drive
Speaker 1: in movie, Tony? Yeah? I have when I was a kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you used to sneak about eight friends? Right, you put
Speaker 1: them in the trunk. I can't do that. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not dishonest like you get it for better yet. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say what what be? Go ahead?
Speaker 1: Go ahead? No? You know they used to show X
Speaker 1: rated movies. I know they did not. Yeah, they had
Speaker 1: one down in Port Lauderdale. It was called I think
Speaker 1: it was the Thunderbird Driving Movie Theater or whatever. People
Speaker 1: will know this, and they have one one or two
Speaker 1: screens had X rated movies on them. So you paid
Speaker 1: to go on the other one when you were like
Speaker 1: sixteen and you drive the car. You're don't say you
Speaker 1: never did anything like that either. Right, let's go around
Speaker 1: the FC South quickly. We'll move along from that one
Speaker 1: to Houston. Texans lost to the Steelers. They had a
Speaker 1: halftime lead and they were shut out in the second half.
Speaker 1: Three b yeah good, yeah, talking, they're very good, I mean,
Speaker 1: and they couldn't stop the running the second half. I
Speaker 1: mean they got beat up defensively. Um Steelers random all
Speaker 1: right at him, and they didn't get bunch of a
Speaker 1: pass rush against Ben in the second half. And offensively
Speaker 1: they just don't look right. I mean, tell me who
Speaker 1: scares you on that offense? Well, here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: What do they do well? They don't run it well.
Speaker 1: I can't throw it well, but he holds the ball
Speaker 1: too long. The offensive line isn't good, they don't rush
Speaker 1: the pass it very well then playing well, and the
Speaker 1: secondary is not good. Other than that, what do they
Speaker 1: do well? I don't think that's a good team. No,
Speaker 1: I think get eight team at best, at best eight
Speaker 1: and eighteen, So eight nights, so you think they go
Speaker 1: eight and five the rest the way probably seven and
Speaker 1: nine tea, Yeah, they in a couple of weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Colts knocked off the Jets thirty six seven. Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers had passed four hundred career touchdowns in the win.
Speaker 1: They won two straight after the loss to the Jags.
Speaker 1: Peak that shouldn't count. I mean, the Jets are terrible,
Speaker 1: but I mean they did dominate him though. I mean
Speaker 1: it was like it was, it was never in doubt.
Speaker 1: Here's the that's what you're supposed to do against bad teams.
Speaker 1: Were supposed to put the game away. Here's the other
Speaker 1: thing about the cold. They're gonna look back, the season's
Speaker 1: over and go out. In the hell did we lose
Speaker 1: that opener? How phil Rivers in the fourth down when
Speaker 1: they should have kicked the field goal to make it
Speaker 1: tend nothing that that's a bad start too. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans knocked off the Vikings thirty one to thirty.
Speaker 1: Gaskowski had six field goals, including the game winner late,
Speaker 1: and every Titan's win has been because of a Gaskowski
Speaker 1: game winner. The best is they're gonna cut Gaskowski after
Speaker 1: the first half of the opening night game against the Broncos,
Speaker 1: and now he's has three game winners but they got
Speaker 1: they have defensive issues. They're good defensively, they have no
Speaker 1: one who nobody, nobody, nobody, and I mean Dalvin Cook
Speaker 1: went for buck eight. Think about that. Justin Jefferson, the
Speaker 1: rookie was going wild yesterday. They're not good on defense,
Speaker 1: they can't they can't rush the pastor no. But offensively,
Speaker 1: their offensive line is not playing that well either. Taylor
Speaker 1: Wane got hurt. I don't know what his stats is
Speaker 1: gonna be, but yeah, Derrick Henry and Annie Hill and
Speaker 1: they got they got weapons outside. Remember forever it was
Speaker 1: a team with no receivers and just get you could
Speaker 1: just run the ball. They're doing this without a J. Brown,
Speaker 1: a J. Brown back, A J. Brown, uh Davids, Corey
Speaker 1: Davis and then the Chanou with the little John Smith
Speaker 1: John Johnny Smith and Adam Humphreys working the slot. And
Speaker 1: they're good. Yeah, it's too bad. Too bad. They're not
Speaker 1: like the old Titans, where they were physical on both
Speaker 1: lines of scrimmage and dominated that way. They be the
Speaker 1: best team in the NFL probably, I guess quickly power
Speaker 1: rankings in the a f C. South Tony I'm gonna go, uh,
Speaker 1: you gotta They're undefeated. You gotta go them one. I'm
Speaker 1: going to Jags too. Stay strong, And he keeps saying that, well,
Speaker 1: they beat the Gold, they beat the Cold, play the
Speaker 1: Colts the last week of the season. Three because they
Speaker 1: beat the Jets, it doesn't count. And the Texans are
Speaker 1: fourth because they have won a game, Well, the one,
Speaker 1: I'll have the one in fourteen, Jaguars ahead of the Cold,
Speaker 1: I'll have the I think right now the Colts are
Speaker 1: the best team, but I'll put the Titans ahead of them.
Speaker 1: They've earned it. Titans one, Colts too, Texans three, Jack Works.
Speaker 1: What is that? This is terrible? It's factual. What it
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Speaker 1: you don't believe anything you say. That's not true. I
Speaker 1: believe everything I say. JP. What I'll say this probably
Speaker 1: a little bit teo colored Glass is putting them ahead
Speaker 1: of the Colts. If I was being completely honest in
Speaker 1: the power rankings, I go Titans, Colts, Jags, Texts. I
Speaker 1: really think they're better than the texts. I think the
Speaker 1: texting drop so bad. It's close. But no, of course,
Speaker 1: the division standings Tennessee, Indie, Jacksonville, Houston, those are the
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Speaker 1: through week three. Let's come back and we'll go around
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Speaker 1: that one. Let's go around the National Football League and
Speaker 1: recap the week three games and first off. As we
Speaker 1: touched on briefly earlier, a bunch of former Jaguars had
Speaker 1: pretty good days yesterday. Pete um, Nick Foles, Lazard, Mercedes
Speaker 1: Lewis I think scored a touchdown. Shaan Gibson had an
Speaker 1: interception to see all game. That's a that's a long list.
Speaker 1: I don't even think I think I've probably left one
Speaker 1: or two off. Yeah, but which one of those guys
Speaker 1: would help right now? Louis blocking yep. That's still a
Speaker 1: mystery to me why they ever got rid of him.
Speaker 1: I mean, it costs like three million bucks a year,
Speaker 1: four million bucks here. But Alan Lazard when he was in,
Speaker 1: when he was coming out of I was state. I
Speaker 1: actually put him on a list of guys that I
Speaker 1: like better than the Scalps that I'd do every year.
Speaker 1: But I thought he would have to add weight and
Speaker 1: become a move tight end. So I kind of got
Speaker 1: it right, but I got it wrong. He's look, he's done.
Speaker 1: He looks good. But how much of that is Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is his quarterback? I mean, is he doing that here?
Speaker 1: Good question? Probably not. But you know what, he actually
Speaker 1: showed some ability to run a little bit less you
Speaker 1: saw it, and I don't know if you saw Rogers
Speaker 1: postgame interview after the game, he said, look, they were
Speaker 1: double into the side of Valdes scantling and that left
Speaker 1: the kid in one on one opportunities. He took advantage
Speaker 1: of them. All right, let's see, let's get to the games.
Speaker 1: The Bears rallied, Nick Foles rallied the Bears in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, another crushing defeat for the Falcons, and dan
Speaker 1: Quinn's seat is red hot after a thirty to twenty
Speaker 1: six Bears went over the falcon speed. Oh, he's in trouble.
Speaker 1: I mean, how long do you keep him? How can
Speaker 1: you They're the first team ever to blow fifteen point
Speaker 1: leads in the fourth quarter back to back weeks. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's how can you keep them? He'll make it to
Speaker 1: the When when's their bye week? You better because I
Speaker 1: don't think you fired them until the bye week. And
Speaker 1: what do you better hope is he has about four
Speaker 1: more weeks to the bye week and they run four
Speaker 1: off in a row and they're four and three at
Speaker 1: the bye week. Otherwise he's gonna get fired by week A.
Speaker 1: Week ten, Week ten, he makes you think he makes
Speaker 1: it to week ten. Here's the here's the schedule coming up,
Speaker 1: by the way, for Atlanta at the Packers home against
Speaker 1: the Panthers at the Vikings home against the Lions at
Speaker 1: the Panthers and then the Broncos. They could win, they
Speaker 1: could win four, yeah, five of those outside the Packers,
Speaker 1: but the Packers is this week. That means they go
Speaker 1: to oh and four. That's right. He might he might
Speaker 1: not make it home after that one, and then they'll
Speaker 1: make a change and then they'll play those bad teams
Speaker 1: and who Rahey Mars will be the coach problems. But Pete,
Speaker 1: let's be clear, who are their losses to so far?
Speaker 1: They start the season Seattle, No, yeah at home, say
Speaker 1: I mean no, not to say it's the Cowboys. Cowboys
Speaker 1: should have won. And then and then the Bears. The
Speaker 1: Bears are the worst. The Bears are the worst three
Speaker 1: and the team in the history of the NFL. You
Speaker 1: don't believe in Nick Foles. I don't believe in the Bears.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in the Bears either. The Bills. You
Speaker 1: better believe in Buffalo. They knocked off the Rams thirty five,
Speaker 1: thirty two. Josh Allen had the game winning drive. They
Speaker 1: lost the lead, But this guy's MVP material. You weren't lying, Pete.
Speaker 1: I worry about their defense a little bit. It wasn't
Speaker 1: good yesterday, and that's all. And no, I think the
Speaker 1: Rams are great at scheming guys open and with all
Speaker 1: those misdirection boots and all that. But they were not good.
Speaker 1: But Josh Allen is in that offense is fun to
Speaker 1: watch because he's driving. He's averaging nine yards of completion.
Speaker 1: I think it is he's driving. All Let's be clear,
Speaker 1: though they got a break that was not passing. Well,
Speaker 1: let's be clear. There was an interception earlier in the
Speaker 1: game that wasn't an interception that turned the game around.
Speaker 1: It was dual possession. They called it a pick and
Speaker 1: it should have been a pick. This guy Tony's defended
Speaker 1: this guy there, liken't be careful about the bill were
Speaker 1: chock down. It's just believe me, our critique calls all
Speaker 1: the just like you guys, I thought the past interference
Speaker 1: call was debatable at best. All right, let's get through
Speaker 1: the rest of these games quickly. So you know, they
Speaker 1: went to the booth and and the what's his name?
Speaker 1: I think it was um stator? Wasn't one of those
Speaker 1: guys said it was. It was holding because he carried
Speaker 1: him past the line of scrimmage from through I would
Speaker 1: have been, yeah, well that would have given him first down. Anyways.
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb ran for eight and two touchdowns for the Browns.
Speaker 1: They beat Washington thirty four twenty. Rex Burke had had
Speaker 1: a big game for the Patriots. Yes, Nick, Nick Chubb
Speaker 1: is the most underappreciated, underrated running back in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He might be the best pure running back in the
Speaker 1: entire league, and yet they give carries degree month. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Patriots are amazing. It's an amazing coaching staff, an
Speaker 1: amazing team. I thought they'd be awful on defense, awful.
Speaker 1: Done a great job and Josh MTh Daniel was a
Speaker 1: great play caller. Niners over the Giants. New York stinks
Speaker 1: so far. The Bengals and Eagles and an overtime tied three.
Speaker 1: As we mentioned, Burrow sacked eight times and hit eighteen
Speaker 1: times in the game. Fletcher Cox and Malik Jackson combined
Speaker 1: for seven of those hits. By the way. The Panthers
Speaker 1: over the Chargers. Teddy Bridgewatcher of fishing in the game
Speaker 1: twenty eight passing four turnovers by the Chargers. H Herbert's
Speaker 1: gonna be good, but um a little reckless with the
Speaker 1: ball yesterday. Yeah, but he got him back in and
Speaker 1: they if they hit the hooking lateral at the end
Speaker 1: of the game, they win it. And it was there,
Speaker 1: It was there. Lions over the Cardinals. Seven lead changes
Speaker 1: in this game. The Lions went in the last second
Speaker 1: field goal. Bad loss for the Cardinals. You're supposed to
Speaker 1: win that game. If you're gonna be a really good team.
Speaker 1: You gotta win that game. The Bucketeers over the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Brady through three touchdowns, two of those too, Mike Evans
Speaker 1: both one yard scores early in the game. The Seahawks
Speaker 1: beat the Cowboys, and a late touchdown pass from Wilson
Speaker 1: to Metcalf. Of course, is the best quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I know Aaron Rodgers, it's close. Josh Allen, He's gonna say,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, that's his guy. Mahomes is the best quarterback,
Speaker 1: the best quarterback right now. This is I'm not saying
Speaker 1: the guy. I'm not saying the guy would pick. I
Speaker 1: pick my Homes right now for the walk. Right now,
Speaker 1: there's no one better than Russell Wilson. A close second
Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers there, but those two are head and
Speaker 1: troulders above everyone else for the way they're playing right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: but after tonight, when Mahomes boats from fort and four scores,
Speaker 1: you're gonna I don't know. Russell Wilson right now is
Speaker 1: amazing and he has to be that. When somebody asked me,
Speaker 1: he said he through fourteen touchdown passes already three games.
Speaker 1: I go. Defense keeps playing the same ways. Of course,
Speaker 1: the Packers at the Saints thirty seven thirty Rodgers hard
Speaker 1: count on the road. Something to watch all season long.
Speaker 1: Now without any fans on the road, he can do
Speaker 1: it everywhere. Yeah, but the guy, the guy, he's throwing
Speaker 1: bombs and lasers off, flicking his wrist for sixty five
Speaker 1: yards to Alan Lazar. Just think about that. The big
Speaker 1: play is a sixty five yard wrist flicked Alan Lazard.
Speaker 1: Come on, everybody said he was washed up. It was
Speaker 1: the biggest joke leading into the sea everywhere, everybody Tony
Speaker 1: apparently there were a lot of people. I mean, JP,
Speaker 1: this is another one where Pete got right. So he
Speaker 1: wants to make sure everyone else was against them. All right,
Speaker 1: but you heard you clearly heard the talk that he
Speaker 1: wasn't the same guy. Yeah, I heard that, but I
Speaker 1: mean I washed up. I've never quite heard. And the
Speaker 1: best one is they drafted Jordan's love and so he's
Speaker 1: playing with fire this year, and then he wasn't playing
Speaker 1: with fire. Come on, give me a break. Time for
Speaker 1: Monday Night football. It's the best matchup of Week three
Speaker 1: and a battle of two of the best young quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in football, Chrick Mahomes and the defending Super Bowl champion
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs meet the defending m v P. Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens, both teams to at all.
Speaker 1: Who you got on the inner Harbor to Night, Tony?
Speaker 1: Well interesting. Lamar Jackson is twenty one and three in
Speaker 1: the regular season starter. He has three losses. You know who.
Speaker 1: Those three losses are against Patrick Mahomes twice, Cleveland Browns once,
Speaker 1: and patricker Mahomes twice. Take it quickly, so I'll say this,
Speaker 1: but the Ravens are gonna win to Night because they're
Speaker 1: gonna rush for six hundred and eighty five yards against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense. Mahomes my throw eighteen touchdowns, but it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be enough because the Chiefs defense is bad.
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw and they're gonna win the game. In
Speaker 1: the high scooling game, I'll take the Chiefs. Have a
Speaker 1: great call, Tony. People will talk to you next week.
Speaker 1: Thanks to our entire crew. I'm JP Shatrick. It's Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.