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Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars, Jags twenty six Panthers. Ten will recapital including

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Speaker 2: the two hundred yard rushing day for the Jags, the

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Speaker 2: defense with three takeaways, will keep it real about a

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Speaker 2: with us here in studio. What's up Boston?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: I mean, can you be a favorite? Q? Smile really

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Speaker 4: big for me, just so I can see if you

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Speaker 4: look like I don't know what it means. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 4: never mind. I mean a giant smile and you might

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Speaker 4: sell it off, but that's all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 5: You don't know what they are, do you?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea, Pete Prisco CBS Sports. I do not.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's some kind of like do you remember I

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Speaker 6: had like Cabbage Patch kids back in the day, or.

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Speaker 5: The dolls or whatever, you know, That's what they are.

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Speaker 6: They're like those things where they collect them, they become

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Speaker 6: big collectibles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I have a friend, I think okay, I have a

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Speaker 4: friend whose daughter. I think they have like twenty of

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Speaker 4: them now. Like it's just that they're kind of like

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Speaker 4: they're like the modern day like ferbies or like you

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Speaker 4: remember ferbies barely barely. Yeah, they're kind of like ferbies.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: Just every every kid's got these things now, So don'

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Speaker 4: don't worry about it.

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Speaker 3: Man, wait, wait, way past.

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Speaker 5: That way over your head, and nor do you look

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Speaker 5: like any of them.

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Speaker 2: The appreciate that, Pete, is not the first conflict you've

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Speaker 2: ever given me. Pete, I think it might be.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're a little old to look like one.

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Speaker 5: Aren't they kids? They're monsters and most of them have air, don't.

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Speaker 4: They the ones i've seen them, just yeah, they they're

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Speaker 4: very unsettling.

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Speaker 3: We'll just leave it at that.

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Speaker 2: I'm out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, hair.

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Speaker 2: Jags win Pete. The Jags did most everything that they

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Speaker 2: had promised all ob season. They were physical, they were

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Speaker 2: attacking on defense and taking the ball away, and they

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Speaker 2: got a winning result.

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Speaker 3: How about that they did?

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Speaker 6: And you know, I watched it take today and and

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Speaker 6: there's a lot to like. There's still some major concerns,

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Speaker 6: but there's a.

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Speaker 5: Lot to like. And I thought, you know, the quarterback

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Speaker 6: You know, you put up gaundy numbers or anything, and

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Speaker 6: he missed a couple of throws, but he seemed comfortable

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Speaker 5: The offensive line was really good. I mean I didn't

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Speaker 6: That goes to show you, by the way, what coaching

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Speaker 6: means in this league. I know there's two new guys

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Speaker 6: on that offensive line, but Cleveland is so much better

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Speaker 5: And I thought Anton Harrison was much better than he

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Speaker 5: was a year ago. So coaching really matters.

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Speaker 6: And their coach well and they look like their coach

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Speaker 6: Well Etn ran the ball nice and I think offensively

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Speaker 6: it wasn't pretty. It was just the way Liam Cohne

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Speaker 6: wants to do it is he wants to run the football,

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Speaker 6: and they ran the football.

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Speaker 4: You know, when we talk about this game, I mean,

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Speaker 4: this was a game that obviously Pete had as a lock,

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Speaker 4: so one to one with the locks, I wasn't ready

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Speaker 2: You didn't do it.

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Speaker 4: I check it out because I didn't know what we're expecting, right,

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Speaker 4: because maybe I have a little PTSD In games at

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Speaker 4: home that you're supposed to win. In the past, this

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Speaker 3: Was it perfect? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: But I think the most important part, and you know

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Speaker 4: this goes back to when you know Liam Cohen made

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Speaker 4: like they want to be a physical team and say

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Speaker 4: your physical team is one thing, but actually backing it

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Speaker 4: they did with Chavistn and company. It showed they actually

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Speaker 4: walked the walk and that was refreshing to see.

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Speaker 6: Defensively, when you basically they limited him to three points.

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Speaker 6: I mean they got the touchdown late in garbage time,

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Speaker 6: but they played it helps at Bryce Young stinks. I

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's awful. He was terrible.

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Speaker 2: He was taking steps last season. Pete, what happened?

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Speaker 6: What did I say about that last week? I said,

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Speaker 6: everybody's getting fools gold on that. I mean, think about this.

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Speaker 6: He on fourth down, he throws.

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Speaker 2: It away into the stands.

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Speaker 5: What are you doing? On the pick six?

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Speaker 6: Was one of the worst plays I've ever seen, and

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Speaker 6: that was a hold in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 5: By the way, that was no question about it. But

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Speaker 5: what are you doing? And he missed it.

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Speaker 6: Bunch of throws he just they get him outside the pocket.

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Speaker 6: He had to jump up a couple of times to

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Speaker 5: Did you guys see that?

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Speaker 2: Of course, yeah, he pops up throws. Can't nineteen fifty

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Speaker 4: But but also I think it was a great game

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Speaker 4: plan though, you know, from coach camp in preparation for

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Speaker 4: Bryce Young, because the game plan was clear, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: send the house. Maybe you're not gonna you know, you're

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Speaker 4: not gonna generate pressure with four guys. So you're gonna

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Speaker 4: blitz linebackers, corner safeties and everything, and you're gonna make

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Speaker 4: Bryce Young beat you with his arm. And I think

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Speaker 4: a classic example of that would have been it was

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Speaker 4: thro Yeah, right exactly. Now, if that's Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 4: t Higgins, that's probably a touchdown, right, But Bryce Young

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Speaker 4: doesn't make the throw heder throws it a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I think it was who was the Jordan Lewis Lewis Lewis,

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Speaker 4: he kind of recovered with chill coverage, knocks the ball down.

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Speaker 4: Great play right now against the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Can you do that?

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 4: But the point is is that you knew what you

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Speaker 4: part now interior wise, defensive line wise, still some things

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Speaker 4: to improve on, right like that, they were decent in

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Speaker 6: And again I watched the tape today and you mentioned

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Speaker 6: the interior that defensive line.

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Speaker 5: That's still the major concern of the defense. Now.

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Speaker 6: They all had moments where they made a play or two,

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Speaker 6: but there was nothing like where anybody was dominating up front.

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Speaker 6: I found Saunders made a couple of plays, Hamilton made

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Speaker 6: a couple of plays. You know, Armstead did a couple things,

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Speaker 6: but nothing where you came away from and you went, wow,

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Speaker 6: they're okay in the middle of that line. So I'm

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Speaker 6: still worried about it. I'm still worried about that. You know,

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Speaker 6: if they had you know, Mason Smith was inactive, he

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Speaker 6: park is the way he played. The last preseason game

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Speaker 6: against Miami went very good. Did he get off any blocks?

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Speaker 6: So that's something to keep an eye on going forward.

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Speaker 6: You know, does he play when do they play him?

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Speaker 5: If they play him.

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Speaker 6: They went with the two veterans, and the two veterans

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Speaker 6: are sick, big body guys, but they're not going to

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Speaker 4: One of the biggest things I've been waiting for, man,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I got made hours last night. I was

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Speaker 4: ready to come in here. You know, I'm happy out

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Speaker 4: on everything. But I've been meaning to ask you this question.

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Speaker 4: What were your thoughts on the fourth down call? Because

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest, I sat there thinking, like it,

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Speaker 4: don't do it. I didn't like it either. I mean

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Speaker 4: shout out to Liam Callen because hindsight, being twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: he had the cojones to call it. But in the

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Speaker 4: time I was like, man, if you don't get this,

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Speaker 4: you're putting your defense behind the eight ball. And also

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Speaker 4: you got Bryce sung having some confidence.

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Speaker 2: And liams and Day said, yeah, we were all in

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Speaker 5: Fourth and fourth and one right from the thirty seven?

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Speaker 5: Is that what it was?

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Speaker 2: It's about right, Yeah, I'm looking it up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah I would, I'll be honest with you. Kudos to him,

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Speaker 6: but I wouldn't have done it. But needless to say,

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Speaker 6: he pulled out his favorite play that they run twelfth.

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Speaker 6: It's like, you know, that play has become like the

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Speaker 5: How many times did they run that play yesterday?

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Speaker 2: At least a touchdown? That touchdown one of those that

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Speaker 5: Was one of them.

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Speaker 2: Kind of Yeah, it was at least right there because.

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Speaker 5: I think they Brown ran you might have run a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So.

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Speaker 6: That play is becoming And and by the way, when

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Speaker 6: you watch the Rams Sean McVay tree, which Liam's now

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Speaker 6: a part of, they all run that play.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they run it a couple of different times.

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Speaker 5: It's a big it's a part of the part of

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Speaker 2: Two carries Brian Thomas one, there's three right there you go.

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Speaker 4: So here's what I thought about that play because obviously

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Speaker 4: you have to have it, and we've been hearing all

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Speaker 4: camp physical, physical, physical, So I'm like, oh, okay, well

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Speaker 4: I have PTSD from last season.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna run power, you're gonna get stopped behind the

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Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, you're gonna turn the ball over. Like

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Speaker 4: that's what I was expecting to see. I wasn't expecting

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Speaker 4: that the Jets sweep there. And I think what the

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Speaker 4: genius of it was because one sometimes coaches getting their

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Speaker 4: own heads right and ego takes over where it's like, okay,

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Speaker 4: we gotta pound the rock here it's fourth and one.

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Speaker 4: I got come from an offensive line that wasn't necessarily

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Speaker 4: saying our offensive line's been their defensive line. The Panthers

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Speaker 4: got out smarted there. And the reason they got out

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Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh game. It was a three by one formation

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Speaker 4: and then they ran the jet sweep to Brown. Well,

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Speaker 4: this time was two by two and you had two

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Speaker 5: All that led to is three points.

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Speaker 2: Well, they had to overcome three penalties on the drive

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Speaker 6: That's why in my mind that I'm with probably with

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Speaker 5: When you go for it there, what are you doing?

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Speaker 6: You're going for it now you still need forty yards

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Speaker 6: Still you still need to go And so I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: Well and tackle Pete's point here, because in that situation,

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Speaker 4: And I've been in those situations where you know a

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Speaker 4: But once again, was the juice worth to squeeze?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: They got three points out of it due to a

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Speaker 2: You got to put in the end zone. Justify it right.

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Speaker 6: But again though Austin's if you get it, yay, it's

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Speaker 5: And put in the end zone. So there's I don't know,

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Speaker 7: JP.

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Speaker 5: We'll call in on Thursday and ask him what he

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Speaker 2: On his Coaches, Oh boy, you heard the news.

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Speaker 5: That it's not it's not a coaches show anymore.

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Speaker 6: It's Tony Boselli's show with James Gladstone once in a

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Speaker 2: He couldn't stay away from radio Pete.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I told him just to come back and do happy

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean it's first off, a couple things about that.

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Speaker 5: We know that we were a part of that too.

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Speaker 6: Is there really that much that in a week where

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Speaker 6: I you know me, whatever you if you think that

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Speaker 6: So if that's the case, oh well, But don't you

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Speaker 2: I think they. I think they have always liked to

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Speaker 6: Didn't Urban, didn't Urban do of all people or even

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Speaker 2: Two days after the video incident came out and first

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Speaker 8: Me, And by the way, the lunatic back in the

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Speaker 5: He didn't like to do it, but he did.

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Speaker 6: It, the lunatic being Tom Coughlin. And yeah, I say that,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I just this is me. That's just

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Speaker 2: But I'm a freelancer, man. I'll see how it is.

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Speaker 5: Theold being the coaches show, Well.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I think it goes like this. I

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of peeling behind the current which we.

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Speaker 4: So you're trying to get fans involved, You're trying to

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Speaker 4: And I think a great way to keep echoing that

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Speaker 3: Is what we saw. We're on the Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't take much, right, but a little effort there

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Speaker 4: there wouldn't be bad. But maybe he's prepping for that

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Speaker 6: Maybe they were worried that they would couldn't have enough

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Speaker 5: Let the coach become who he is. You know, it's

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Speaker 5: it's a half hour. Look, we know this in football.

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Speaker 5: Let's be real.

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Speaker 6: It's paralysis by analysis, you know, for all and everybody.

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Speaker 6: You look, everybody works hard in the National Football League,

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Speaker 5: Baby, it's done.

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Speaker 6: The game plans in the Hayes and the bar. So

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: But Pete to kind of go against your argument a

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Speaker 4: But like, yeah, but this is a guy who's still

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Speaker 2: And I believe that he will do who will swing

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Speaker 6: Right, But two things about that, Austin has already taken

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Speaker 3: I was playing Devil's advocate man, that's all.

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Speaker 2: I sick it up for him.

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Speaker 5: And two Jack del Rio, who coached you.

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Speaker 3: Right Austin, Oh yeah, yeah first year.

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Speaker 5: That was the first time he was ever a head coach.

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Speaker 6: I just think I just and I don't think it's

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Speaker 5: I think he would do it.

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Speaker 6: I just think that they're trying to protect him for

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Speaker 6: But I don't know he should be doing and the

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Speaker 5: Him, you know, they should be. They should be listening

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Speaker 6: You know, you're not giving away trade secrets on your

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Speaker 5: You're just not.

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Speaker 2: We're back in a moment. We're giving away trade secrets

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Speaker 2: on this show, though, Pete. Just ask Pete. He'll tell

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Speaker 2: Plenty ahead, We've got the second hour coming up. We've

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Speaker 9: Really cool to be sitting, you know, to be standing

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Speaker 9: You know, you're frustrated with some of the penalties that

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Speaker 9: this thing, we can not do those things and expect

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Speaker 9: to win.

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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen, Jaguars head coach at the podium after the

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Speaker 2: win over the Panthers in Week one yesterday and welcome

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Speaker 2: back at is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by JETHOLM Loans, JP, Shadrick,

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Speaker 2: Pete Prisco, Austin Lane on ten Toinexcel, Jaguars dot Com

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Speaker 2: and Jaguars YouTube. And you know this game was marred

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Speaker 2: by an hour and sixteen minute weather delay and the

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Speaker 2: Jaguars had just scored a touchdown Lawrence DeLong, first career

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Speaker 2: touchdown for Long, by the way, the tidy end of

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Speaker 2: this fifth year in the NFL, and I had a

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Speaker 2: ten to three lead and then before the ensuing kickoff

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Speaker 2: play was stopped. So you know, the challenge then, obviously

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Speaker 2: is who comes back out of the locker. We've seen

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Speaker 2: where teams have been really good and then really bad

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Speaker 2: or vice versa, and the Jags picked up right where

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Speaker 2: they left off Austin. It felt like, especially on offense,

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Speaker 2: the first play on offense after a defensive drive was

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Speaker 2: a seventy one yard run by E that was blocked

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Speaker 2: up well up front.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wild because the offense picked up. I felt

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Speaker 4: like Trevor maybe came out a little bit flat after

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Speaker 4: that and didn't really purvey what he wanted to do.

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Speaker 4: But listen, I've never been a situation where I have

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Speaker 4: to sit in the locker room for an hour for

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Speaker 4: a rain delay, so I'm not sure what that's like.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that's the first time Liam Cohen had to

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Speaker 4: do that, and I think every coach would handle it differently.

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Speaker 4: The point is, though, is that you have to keep guys.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of finding that balance, right because you're in

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Speaker 4: a football game, so you have to keep that physicality

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Speaker 4: and that mentality, but at the same time, you're sitting

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Speaker 4: there for an hour, right, so you got to kind

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Speaker 4: of relax a little bit and get off your feet

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Speaker 4: and then get ramped back up. And I thought, whatever,

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Speaker 4: whatever they did, and I was watching the broadcast is

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Speaker 4: why we watched the broadcast, and they're saying how they

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Speaker 4: took their shoes off and there was grounding exercises that

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Speaker 4: they were doing.

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Speaker 3: This is according nine.

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Speaker 2: Shlay with the company whatever, but grounding, grounding exercises, right,

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Speaker 2: But whatever.

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Speaker 5: They were doing that.

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Speaker 3: So if you want to get.

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Speaker 4: Doing mushrooms too in depth in grounding, basically, it's like,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's being present. I think Jjie McCarthy a

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Speaker 4: couple years Agot Mission again, he was kind of at

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Speaker 4: the forefront of grounding where he would take off his

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Speaker 4: cleats before a football game and just walk on the field.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: So it's a form of that. So it's kind of.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a form of like centering yourself and being present.

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Speaker 4: And maybe that's what they did. Maybe they were watching,

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Speaker 4: you know, some other games in the locker room. But

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Speaker 4: whatever it was, it worked, man, because they came out

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Speaker 4: ready to play.

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Speaker 2: Second Duan Smoot set after the game that he went

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Speaker 2: in the sauna because they have one right there in

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Speaker 2: the locker room. Yeah, remember clearly, and try to stay

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Speaker 2: as warm as he could.

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Speaker 6: I just took my shoes off, so like, it's center

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Speaker 6: myself and get a.

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Speaker 5: Real balance to my life with the earth.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing?

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Speaker 5: What are we doing? Go in the locker room.

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Speaker 6: Back in the day, they used to go to the

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Speaker 6: locker room and light up smokes cigarettes, reds.

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Speaker 5: Look, handling that can be a challenge.

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Speaker 6: And not only that, you come back out and you

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Speaker 6: got to go back in again for another half time.

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Speaker 2: That's right, It wasn't that long.

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Speaker 6: You're right, right, that's that's a challenge too. So I

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Speaker 6: think that's a good sign for Leo Code that the way.

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Speaker 5: They handled that. I you know, I believe that.

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Speaker 6: I think that could be a challenge for a team,

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Speaker 6: and they did a nice job with it. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's funny because it was the storm that bad. Because

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Speaker 6: here's what happened. We were watching the game in our

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Speaker 6: green room and we have a storm at the exact

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Speaker 6: same time. So of course the satellite goes out and

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Speaker 6: you can't see the game, and then we come back

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Speaker 6: and the game's.

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Speaker 5: Got Was it that bad?

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Speaker 2: The storm No, there was blue skies. There was some

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Speaker 2: sell up at two ninety five by the airport, and

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Speaker 2: I think it probably put down a bolt within the

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Speaker 2: radius what is it ten miles or something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that that did it and it was perfect here.

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Speaker 2: And then probably forty minutes into the delay, there was

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Speaker 2: a little rain that popped up, but then it went

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Speaker 2: away in like five minutes. That was it, and they

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Speaker 2: played it well.

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Speaker 6: You know what better to be safe. I mean, it's

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Speaker 6: it's a smart thing to do. Don't take any you

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Speaker 6: never take chances with lightning. You know, it's like somebody

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Speaker 6: on a golf course. Let me get this last hole

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Speaker 6: in and you know I fought with guys.

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Speaker 5: I'm getting the cart and I'm out of here, so

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Speaker 5: you can take you can stand out there. I'm not

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Speaker 5: that's smart to get him out of the stadium and regroup.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, that's a good challenge for a young head coach. Austin,

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Speaker 6: that's a good point. Does he handled it well and

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Speaker 6: the team handled it well.

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Speaker 2: And the physicality was there right after as well.

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Speaker 5: In the mean that run, that run, Take a look

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Speaker 5: at that the blocks on that run, the double team.

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Speaker 6: And then strange with the I mean, just he sees

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Speaker 6: the defensive end coming down the line and he gets

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Speaker 6: in there and they meet at the point man and

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Speaker 6: it is violent and he kind of took two guys

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Speaker 6: out with that block.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think if Breton Strange really reaffirmed anything,

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Speaker 4: it's the fact that there's a reason why Evan Ingram's

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Speaker 4: not here anymore, right because I think in terms of

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Speaker 4: the roster moves and everything, that was the one that

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Speaker 4: people maybe had the biggest issue with.

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Speaker 3: What was getting ready to Evan Ingram.

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Speaker 4: You know, obviously he was a target monster, and now

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Speaker 4: you see what what Breton Strange can do, not only

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Speaker 4: in the passing game, but also in the run game.

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Speaker 4: Just with this mentality and his physicality, it makes sense

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Speaker 4: why they chose to go with him as the starter

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Speaker 4: going forward.

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Speaker 6: I think I think he has a chance to you know,

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of catching tight end, so it might

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Speaker 6: not happen, he won't catch as many passes, but as

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Speaker 6: far as one of those guys in this league that

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Speaker 6: can do both, which they're hard to find, that's a

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Speaker 6: that's a.

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Speaker 5: Kid who can do both.

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Speaker 6: Because now you know, remember he went games without even

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Speaker 6: seeing a target last year in the stupidity.

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Speaker 5: Of that last regime.

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Speaker 6: And now I think he's becoming a full fledged pass

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Speaker 6: catcher who's also a really good.

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Speaker 5: Blocker in the run game. And you know, and and you.

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Speaker 10: Know what the funny thing is if we I don't

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Speaker 10: know if we if we have the full play of

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Speaker 10: the run by ATN but on the twenty two, you

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Speaker 10: know what you can see.

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Speaker 6: As he makes his block, crushes the guy. The guy

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Speaker 6: credit crushes it. They crush each other, to be honest

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Speaker 6: with you. But he makes the block. He's behind the play,

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Speaker 6: he raises his hand up, he thinking the touchdown. He

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Speaker 6: gets up off the ground, he knows that he made

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Speaker 6: that block, and you can see him kind of celebrating

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Speaker 6: as it went on.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's a great block and good. Good for him.

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Speaker 5: He's a good player.

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Speaker 4: And and here's the beauty of having a guy like

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Speaker 4: Breton Strange too, who can do both defensive Cornators can't

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Speaker 4: keen on this guy now, right because there's some players

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Speaker 4: in the league where they're a little more finesse blockers,

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Speaker 4: but they're great receivers, so you can kind of tailor

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Speaker 4: your defense to that. Like I think Travis Kels is

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Speaker 4: a classic example of that. My former teammate of mine,

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Speaker 4: Breton Stranger, is a guy where if I'm a defensive

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Speaker 4: corodinator or they're gonna run the football to his siders

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Speaker 4: are going up for a route, it's it's hard to

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Speaker 4: tell because he's so physical and he's showing now a

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Speaker 4: prowess where he can catch the ball as well, or.

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Speaker 2: They can run the ball opposite.

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Speaker 5: So my favorite the fourth and one.

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Speaker 6: I got to break the fourth and one with the

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Speaker 6: one when they actually they ran the ball, the short

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Speaker 6: yard is won and they had three tight ends and

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Speaker 6: Udga on the field right there, so there were there

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Speaker 6: was four of them on the field at one time.

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Speaker 5: And they just went ooh, we're going to run the

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Speaker 5: ball's and they got the first down. It was easy.

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Speaker 5: They kind of got a good push in the middle

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Speaker 5: of that line.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's just the first satility is there because

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Speaker 6: they hit in large part because they hit.

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Speaker 2: No jets sweepandoff on that one. Be no, hell no.

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Speaker 5: They ran at the old fashioned way right at you.

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Speaker 2: I love that. Let's come back and we're gonna stay

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Speaker 2: grounded on the show today.

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Speaker 5: That's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Stay grounded now, stay defense. When we come back. What

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Speaker 2: a day for this group. Three takeaways we'll hear from

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Speaker 2: Afoya Luikin coming up, and this is Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 2: presented by Jettholme.

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Speaker 11: Loan coming out here and then everybody flying around, everybody,

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Speaker 11: you know, keeping that camaraderie that we have from off

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Speaker 11: set into this first game.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it just felt great.

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Speaker 11: So getting the turnovers, like we're doing stuff right, Let's

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Speaker 11: keep doing it, Let's keep improving on it.

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Speaker 2: Foyer, Aluka and the Jaguars linebacker after the game yesterday,

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Speaker 2: a Jaguars win twenty six to ten the final score

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Speaker 2: and welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick,

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Speaker 2: Pete Prisco Austin Lane as the Jaguars bask in the

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Speaker 2: glow of an opening season victory, and defense a big

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Speaker 2: reason why. A lot of guys contributed to the effort

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Speaker 2: in the winning result yesterday. Lukan led the way with

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Speaker 2: ten tackles, the interception, a key force fumble right there

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Speaker 2: before halftime to set up another possession where they got

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Speaker 2: a field goal and made it a three possession game

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Speaker 2: before halftime. That was Foyer with the Peanut Tillman punch

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Speaker 2: there on the quarterback. Andrew Winger had a great day.

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Speaker 2: Eight tackles, had a pick six but wiped off the board.

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Speaker 2: Eric Murray two passes defense, including one from center field

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Speaker 2: where he hit Renfell right in the belt knocked him

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Speaker 2: free of the football. Tyson Campbell was good, Jordan Lewis

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Speaker 2: all over the plays, interception, fumble recovery, and three passes defense.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of new names on there, there's

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Speaker 2: some guys who've been around as well, in a good

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Speaker 2: mix here Austin Defensively, it's hard to ask from a

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Speaker 2: whole lot more from this group in week one.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously it's touch with it turnovers, right, and

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Speaker 4: you saw that yesterday. But you talk about what you

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Speaker 4: get out of your free agency out of the guys

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Speaker 4: that you brought in, you know, for their first year,

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Speaker 4: and I felt like a lot of those guys a

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Speaker 4: guy would even talk about is uh Gardak?

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Speaker 2: Yeahs Gardak was sideline back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he made a contribution as well. So

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Speaker 4: it was refreshing to see that these new faces in

665
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 4: here made an immediate impact. And obviously that immediate impact,

666
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 4: that's some turnovers which you have to win football games

667
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 4: with those you know.

668
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 5: Here, here's the other thing.

669
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 12: And I want to give this guy a lot of

670
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 12: compliments because I I've kind of criticized him way back

671
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 12: in the day. In the past, Dewey Winger might be

672
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 12: one of the most improved players in the NFL.

673
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 5: And I and I say that with all sincerity. Why

674
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 5: is that He's smart?

675
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 6: He knows where to go, He's a willing tackler, he

676
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 6: can cover. I mean, you're not going to put him

677
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 6: in one on one situations a lot of the time

678
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 6: because I don't think that's his strength. But I think

679
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 6: the way they play defense, he's perfect for way they

680
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 6: put I mean, he's at the line of scrimmage, he

681
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 6: makes tackles, he made the big play that was called

682
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 6: back what I you know, back in the day, he didn't.

683
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 6: Maybe he was thinking too much. He wasn't playing as fast.

684
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 6: Now he plays much faster. And so I want to

685
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 6: give him all the props because I think he's earned them.

686
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 5: He's become the you know, early in camp, remember there

687
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 5: was talk, Okay, he might handle the.

688
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 6: Job for a couple of weeks and then maybe with

689
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 6: ramsass healthy, he'll take the job or whatever. No, No,

690
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 6: this is his job. And I think he's a big

691
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 6: part of the defense. He throws his body around. He's

692
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 6: a good football player. There's a lot of teams in

693
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 6: the league that would like to have him as a safety.

694
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 6: And so from way back when early in his career,

695
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 6: if he got on the field, I didn't think he

696
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 6: was that good a player. He's much better, So props

697
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 6: to him. He's improved greatly and thinks.

698
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: A sorry Pete, and think about what he's come from. Remember,

699
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: he was a regular starter in twenty twenty one, right,

700
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: that's Urban's year, right, and then couldn't really crack the lineup,

701
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: had the knee issue last year, missed a lot of time.

702
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: He's been through all these changes in Jacksonville regimes and

703
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: defensive coordinators and special teams coaches, and now he's back.

704
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: He's earned the whole starting job again. It's it's really

705
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: remarkable run.

706
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: This is the cool thing about doing I talked about

707
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 4: this during the pregame show yesterday a little bit.

708
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: You know, he was a folk hero here for.

709
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 4: The past couple of years because it was always the Jaguars, right,

710
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 4: So like he had that relationship with the fan base.

711
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 4: But now it's almost like he's become one of like

712
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: the heartbeats of the team. And it's simply because you

713
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: look at where he started and undrafted free agent, so

714
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 4: the deck has already stacked against you even make the team, right,

715
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 4: you make the team, you make it with special teams

716
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 4: and everything. You get a couple opportunities here or there,

717
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: and yeah, maybe you don't take the league by storm

718
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 4: right off the get go your rookie year, right, maybe

719
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: you have to earn that a little more. But you

720
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 4: look too, from where he started to where he is now.

721
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: I mean, anytime you take an undrafted guy and you

722
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: make him a starter and he produces, the locker room

723
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: gravitates towards that like that type of energy, that type

724
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 4: of player is contagious, and I think you're seeing that

725
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: now at this defense.

726
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 5: What so, how many years has he been in the league.

727
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 6: Now, it's been a it's been a minute, right, eight, right, Yeah,

728
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 6: and you would think he's almost faster and more. He

729
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 6: plays faster than he did when he was younger.

730
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: Seventh years.

731
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 5: Kudos to him.

732
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 6: And by the way, I thought Murray was aside from

733
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 6: the mistackle on the touchdown, Murray was really good yesterday.

734
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 5: So for the first time in a long time.

735
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 6: You have a pair of safeties that actually know where

736
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 6: the hell they're going.

737
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 5: They're not blowing assignments. They know where they're going. I mean,

738
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 5: Murray missed the.

739
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 6: Tack, but he knew the assignment. That's a that's a

740
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 6: that's a big step up from a year ago. So

741
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 6: I think I think that tandem is really good for

742
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 6: that young defense there. You know, you got two veterans

743
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 6: back there. Guys have been around the league, and so

744
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 6: I think I think that's a good thing for that defense.

745
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 5: So I all props to Winger. By the way, why

746
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 5: is his nickname Dewey. I've never never.

747
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: Where that his name is Andrew. I think that's just

748
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: always been a nickname he's had. I don't think that.

749
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but now he's have you heard about his alter ego?

750
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 4: He just heard ago, so he's calling himself Morris the

751
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: Blade now is like his alter ego.

752
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: He was reading a book and I forgot who the.

753
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: Book was from, but he was talking about from a

754
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: professional athlete, like was quoted saying, you gotta have that

755
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 4: alter ego.

756
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: You have to have your see yourself in a different light.

757
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 4: And now, because they interviewed him yesterday and we played

758
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: it on our show earlier today. He's calling himself Morris

759
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 4: the Blade, So take that for how you want. I

760
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 4: believe it's a nod to Boris the Blade from a

761
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: movie called Snatch.

762
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: But that's just my opinion.

763
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 5: Just call yourself Dewey Winger so people know who you are.

764
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your alter ego? Pete the devil.

765
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: Man something?

766
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: So some love that, you know.

767
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think I just again the safety spot

768
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 6: to me, really well done. And those guys played really

769
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 6: good football. Now okay, okay, here come to Bengals. Now

770
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 6: we'll see what you do when you play an offense

771
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 6: like that. So I get it they were good on Sunday,

772
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 6: but we'll see. And and by the way, another real

773
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 6: quick thing. A luacon in this defense goes downhill a

774
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 6: lot better than he did in the other defenses. You

775
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 6: know what helps He made a tackle behind the line

776
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 6: of scrimmage and he never.

777
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: Does that, Pete. You know what helps that actually being

778
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: on the field all the time like one.

779
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 6: But also the aggressiveness of the calls helped that too,

780
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 6: you know, and I think he think about this. He

781
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 6: made a ton of tackles the last couple of years

782
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 6: Ton and we've always talked about that JP.

783
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 5: Do you remember plays where he's blowing it up in

784
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 5: the backfield.

785
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it always seemed it was like line of scrimmage

786
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: yard or two down, you know.

787
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 5: Right, But yesterday that one was in the backfield. He

788
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 5: blew it up. So yeah, he had a nice really

789
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 5: a nice game.

790
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 6: And you know, for all to talk about, we thought

791
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 6: Lloyd might not start, he ended up starting.

792
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: They didn't play playhole. I mean he played what the

793
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: snaps or something like that.

794
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 5: What Ventrel Miller played.

795
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: I think it was.

796
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: Less, Yeah, it was less than that.

797
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 5: He got less.

798
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: Ventrel played sixteen snaps. Lloyd played twenty two, and there

799
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: were sixty four defensive snaps in the game.

800
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, well they yeah, they Yeah, that's that's not a

801
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 6: lot of snaps for those two guys.

802
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: But I'm sure they had certain packages situations for each

803
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: one of them. Is I guess? You know.

804
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 5: I thought Camp and Neally did a nice job with

805
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: that defense. He really did.

806
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,479
Speaker 6: He's a good coach, but he's gonna for a guy

807
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 6: he won't be sleeping this week.

808
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 5: He's he's gonna have his work cut out for him.

809
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 6: So it'll be interesting to see what he comes up

810
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 6: with to play that group.

811
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 5: Although that group's offensive line on Sunday not very good.

812
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: It's gonna say how the Browns do against him.

813
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Miles Garrett had a hell of a day, you know.

814
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he was having a series.

815
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 5: They had a series where they're backed up of their

816
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 5: own end.

817
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 6: Sack sack, sack and almost the safety on this last

818
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 6: sack sacks three plays in a row, sack sack, sack

819
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 6: that doesn't happen to league.

820
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 4: And Garrett had two of those sacks, and he almost

821
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: had the third one, but they get the credit the

822
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: other guy to the the other one.

823
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, but Twin Miller did that here at the

824
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: end of a game one time to seal a game.

825
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: I remember that.

826
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 4: But Pete Tacho, like, you know, Camp's gonna be up

827
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 4: late at night because the question is, I mean.

828
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: How do you how do you stop Joe Burrow?

829
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 4: Then, because you see an offensive line right now that

830
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: is porous, that can't block anybody. But how confident are

831
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 4: you into your defensive line? So are you gonna send

832
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: the house? You're gonna blitz a little bit, because I

833
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 4: get it. If you're playing Bryce Young That makes a

834
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 4: lot of sense. If you're gonna send the house against

835
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow and you got t Higgins, Jamar Chase going deep.

836
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 4: Burling is not gonna underthrow them like Bryce Young did.

837
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 6: No, and you don't want to get caught in a

838
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 6: lot of man of man situations with those two guys, correct,

839
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 6: So you come plays the one behind it and we

840
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 6: see him drop out and play zone when he blitzes too.

841
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 6: I think you know, he had a lot of short

842
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 6: corners for the defensive backs with They didn't get home,

843
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 6: but they got close the other yesterday, the defensive backs

844
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 6: tackled better than they have in years, even even on

845
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 6: run plays.

846
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 5: Now there's one. There was a run.

847
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 6: Play away from Jerry and Jones, I think, and he

848
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 6: came down the line and grabbed the guy or it

849
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 6: was I think it was him. You gotta be careful

850
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 6: with those because when you start doing that, they're gonna

851
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 6: get you and boot and come outside and have an

852
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 6: easy chuck down the field with nobody, you know what

853
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 6: I mean.

854
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 5: You gotta be careful with They were really aggressive.

855
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 6: I like the aggressiveness, don't get me wrong, but I

856
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 6: saw him do it. I think I saw Jordan Lewis

857
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 6: do it once too, where they cut, you know, quickly,

858
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 6: come around the corner when there's not really any contained

859
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 6: on the side when they come down the line and

860
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 6: make the tackle.

861
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 5: So you gotta be careful with that well.

862
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: And it's not like nitpick too much or anything, but

863
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: if the plan is to blitz again, they're gonna have

864
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 4: to get their lane discipline a little better, because we

865
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 4: saw yesterday Bryce Young sneak out the side a little

866
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 4: bit and get those first downs, you know when it's

867
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 4: third and long or third and whatever, five six plus

868
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 4: and you can pin your years back.

869
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: I'm all for the games.

870
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 4: I'm all for running, you know, twists up front and

871
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 4: everything and sending linebackers. But if you do that, everyone's

872
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: got to be on the same page and have that

873
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 4: lane discipline. And yesterday I saw a couple of guys

874
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 4: didn't have that lane discipline.

875
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: I think I wanted they ask you that.

876
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you that because on the one

877
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 6: play Austin, they were kind of running a twist, but

878
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 6: Hamilton couldn't get out around and when when he's that

879
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 6: was the long scramble. I think the long whatever that

880
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 6: was was It thirty yards at twenty five yards, Ye,

881
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 6: Young scrambled for that?

882
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 5: Is that that's on Hamilton? Right?

883
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, regardless, it's on Hamilton.

884
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 4: Now, whether or not this is something that PFF was

885
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 4: never going to tell you, whether that that was a

886
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 4: designed you know, stunt, or if I forgot who the

887
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 4: defensive end or the linebacker was on that side. Okay,

888
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 4: so so guard So some times, you know, on defensive lines,

889
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 4: if you're a defensive end, you have the luxury to

890
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 4: go inside or outside, and it's the tackles job to

891
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: make you right. So they always call it making you

892
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: right right, And basically if the guy goes crosses your face,

893
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 4: then it's the defensive tackles job to go outside and

894
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 4: have contained. So whether that was like a design pressure,

895
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 4: a design stunt, or whether Gardic just went inside because

896
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 4: he felt something, it's on Devon Hamilton to make him right.

897
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: And unfortunately Hamilton didn't make him right. Bryce Young gets

898
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: out in the corner and it's a it's a first down.

899
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was nobody else there.

900
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 6: Everybody else was there, and Hamilton wasn't gonna chase him down.

901
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 5: He just had to get there. So he couldn't get

902
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 5: out that's what he had to do.

903
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 6: So yeah, and there was another one I think where

904
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 6: they tried a game like that and got caught on

905
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 6: it as well.

906
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 5: But you're not wrong that those are things.

907
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 6: If you do that against Burrow, he's going to get

908
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 6: outside and fire a shot down the field for about

909
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 6: fifty plenty more.

910
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: Ahead, we're back in a moment with the AFC South.

911
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: We'll take a look at all the teams in the division.

912
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: And you said three magic letters a moment ago, Austin PFF.

913
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: Pete loves the PFF. Great, and we'll see if you

914
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: do too or not. How about that.

915
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: Let's get it.

916
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: That's coming up with the second hour. Of course, fanatics,

917
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: fan questions, and we'll keep it real. That's all right

918
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923
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Speaker 7: Been a competitive been a football player, man. We don't

924
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 7: work hard to come out here and put our best

925
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 7: book for it with my little bud on the other

926
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 7: sideline of habit action motivation.

927
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: We kind of want to show him how to.

928
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: Run the ball.

929
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: Sham has done, so.

930
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 7: This is a great feeling just being able to shed

931
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 7: a field with him, and they have to come out with.

932
00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: Dylynn, Travis Et and Junior fantastic day including a seventy

933
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: one yard run in the game, well over one hundred

934
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: and forty three yards on sixteen carries eight point nine average,

935
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: and I led the way for a two hundred yard

936
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: rushing day for the Jaguars. Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy

937
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: Hour GP Shadwick, Pete, Prisco and Austin Lane after a

938
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: Jaguars win over the Panthers twenty six to ten. Of course,

939
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: Trevor Et and his brother on the other side kick

940
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: returner running back had some minimal time in the game.

941
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 2: He had one carry for four yards and one punt

942
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: return but didn't have any yardage on it to kickoff returns.

943
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: But I think Travis got the best of him at

944
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: least in this game. Good to see both of those

945
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: guys on the field together and this season the Jags

946
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 2: are bringing the heat. Pete with four chances to see

947
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: the legendary Prowler throwback uniforms four games, one iconic look,

948
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: the divisional games and the Chiefs on Monday Night Football

949
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: Jaguars dot Com tickets, you can get the throwback pack

950
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: four games, one look.

951
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 5: That makes me.

952
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 6: I think I'm young again when I see those uniforms,

953
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 6: when I cover the tea, I was a young man

954
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 6: back then.

955
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: It's like with songs that you liked when they came

956
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: out on the oldies station. Now that's never fun, right.

957
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 5: Well, maybe they could play oh.

958
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: No, oh yeah they might, they might actually do that

959
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: those days. I don't know.

960
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 5: No. I like it's cool that the doing that, and

961
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 5: I think it's good for the fans. They like it.

962
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 5: But you know, you talk about the running game, and

963
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 5: we were talking about atm what is he now second

964
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 5: in league in Russian? Who etn now after yesterday? Yeah?

965
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 2: I thinks to the screen, Pete, like where you're staring

966
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: at your like in our face all of a sudden, like.

967
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 5: You're Henry Henry as Henry's first, isn't he.

968
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 3: Let me look, I would assume Henry first.

969
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And he was probably trying to hide because

970
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 4: he was on trams to see him as supposed to

971
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 4: be Tutans offense.

972
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: I thought was supposed to be Tutons backfield.

973
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 5: Pete Well, he had a couple of good runs too,

974
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 5: Yeah he did.

975
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, where was Tank Pigsby?

976
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 5: He was there, He ran a couple of times.

977
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: He ran the fourth down play. Wasn't that him?

978
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 5: What did he ended up with? It was for like

979
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 5: eleven or.

980
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 2: Something, five for twelve, Bigsby.

981
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 5: And had three for eleven, yeah, and Alan had one

982
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 5: one for seven. Yeah.

983
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 6: I think I think Tut's gonna start getting more carries

984
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 6: as you move along.

985
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

986
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 6: You know, remember early last season Bucky Irvan wasn't getting

987
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 6: carries for the for the Bucks either.

988
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 5: It was Rashad White.

989
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 6: Well, go ahead, and I think he has, you know,

990
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 6: showed that he can take the hill get his carries too.

991
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 6: But I think to eventually start taking carries away from

992
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 6: those guys.

993
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 4: So it's funny you bring up Rashad White and everything,

994
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 4: because you know, this morning I ended up taking my

995
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 4: shoes off. I got a little grounded, and I went

996
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 4: down this deep rabbit hole. In terms of how Liam

997
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 4: Cohen's offense last year for Tampa Bay, how he handled

998
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: those reps between Bucky Irvin and how he handled it

999
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: between Rashad White and Rashad White was coming off of

1000
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 4: a great year. They ran I think it was Rashad

1001
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 4: White sixteen times and he did nothing. So they gave

1002
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 4: him every opportunity to shine. Unfortunately he didn't. And that's

1003
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 4: what this was I think for Travis Etn here where

1004
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 4: they gave him the opportunity and said, all right, if

1005
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 4: you want to go out there and earn your spot,

1006
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 4: you want to go out there and you know, earn

1007
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 4: some money, Let's see what you got. And I think

1008
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 4: Travis Etn passed with flying colors, and I think until

1009
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 4: he proves that he can't do it, he's gonna be

1010
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 4: the guy going forward. And it's crazy because let's be honest,

1011
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 4: he probably won't be here next year right like this

1012
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 4: is it's almost like a one year lease and now

1013
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: he's playing for another team to watch film on him

1014
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 4: and give him, you know, his well deserved money and everything.

1015
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 4: But until that time, I think travst to the point

1016
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 4: where it's like, you're gonna have to take this starting

1017
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 4: spot away from me because I have money to make too.

1018
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 5: But let's just say he ran.

1019
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 6: I mean, as crazy as it is, he runs for

1020
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 6: fifteen hundred yards.

1021
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 5: Okay, then what do you do?

1022
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: I know what you would do or you wouldn't do, Pete,

1023
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: I know that I wouldn't. I wouldn't resign it exactly.

1024
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 5: The run is a running back. I mean, you don't resign.

1025
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 5: I don't resign him. But here's the other part of

1026
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 5: that equation. Etn showed yesterday that he could do his part.

1027
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 5: Does Houton start taking carries from Bigsby? That's a good question,

1028
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 5: I mean, And here's the other part.

1029
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: Came in the long run by the way.

1030
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 6: By the way, if Twton had made the run through

1031
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 6: that whole he would have scored.

1032
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Correct, I definitely agree with that.

1033
00:44:59,200 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1034
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 6: And that's the different of all of them. He's that's

1035
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 6: the difference with him. He has that home run speed.

1036
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 6: I think you're gonna start seeing more of him as

1037
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 6: we move along here. I think he has to learn

1038
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 6: how to pick up blitzes and.

1039
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 5: Do all that kind of stuff. And you know, that's

1040
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 5: the big part of their offense.

1041
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 6: So I do think maybe he starts taking carries from

1042
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 6: Bigsby and get you give Etn the lead dog for now,

1043
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 6: and then Tooting starts getting eight carries and then you know,

1044
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 6: see what he does with him he gets eight for

1045
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 6: fifty five. Then maybe he takes them from Etn and

1046
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 6: he starts getting more carries.

1047
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 5: Because I think in the.

1048
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 6: Grand scheme of things, let's be real, don't you think

1049
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 6: that they think right now he's going to be the

1050
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 6: running back next year?

1051
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, wholeheartedly. I mean, yeah, yeah, tooting for sure.

1052
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 4: But at the same time, you have to ride the

1053
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 4: hot hand here and regardless of right now, you do yes,

1054
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: and if Etn even if he's not going to be

1055
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 4: here next year, like it was on his legs that

1056
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 4: they they won the football game. You know, I'll pensive

1057
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 4: line and everything too, but like it was because of ETN.

1058
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: Now could have toot and done the same things. What

1059
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: do you have to score a touchdown?

1060
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably on that one long run that ETN played,

1061
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 4: But it doesn't matter.

1062
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: At the end of the day. Etn got the opportunity.

1063
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 4: He shined, and I think until further notice, until proven wrong,

1064
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 4: he's gonna be your guy going forward.

1065
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 6: I think Touton's third run shows the flaw in his game.

1066
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 6: There was go forward, you get three yards. He had

1067
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 6: a little hole there and it wasn't gonna be a

1068
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 6: big run, but you take what you can get there.

1069
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 6: And he tried to go to the right. Do you

1070
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 6: remember the run and there was nothing there and he

1071
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 6: got stuffed. Yeah, And I think that's as.

1072
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 5: He learns the NFL game, he knows, Look, you.

1073
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 6: Can't cut every and we've seen runners around here have

1074
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 6: done that.

1075
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 5: You can't cut everything back. You just can't.

1076
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 6: You know, if you're special like Fred Taylor, you could,

1077
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 6: but that's that's a whole different story. You can't cut

1078
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 6: everything back. So I think I think he's once he

1079
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 6: adjusts to the NFL game, I think Touton's gonna start

1080
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 6: taking carries away from Bigsby and then maybe down the

1081
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 6: road start taking carries away from ETN.

1082
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 2: Like all of Bigsby's touches came late, didn't they. I

1083
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: don't think he had anything because I remember Ellen had

1084
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: one early. I remember seeing Allen out there, and then

1085
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: Tuton was the guy right after the long run that

1086
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: came on for the next two carries.

1087
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 6: The other thing they did with Allen, by the way,

1088
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 6: is they tried to set him up in a one

1089
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 6: on one situation. Again in the past game, Remember they

1090
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 6: had to lead it was a design play.

1091
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 5: Where they got him and I forget who the blocker

1092
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: was a tight end I think in front of him. Man,

1093
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 5: the guy made the play. It was and he had

1094
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 5: made the play.

1095
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: The great solution to this when we come back on

1096
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: Jaguar's Happy.

1097
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 13: Hour, Okay, this is what been visioned in January. Okay, sir,

1098
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 13: it's happening here in September.

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Speaker 2: Gonna go on. Jaguars owners shot Cohn in the locker

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Speaker 2: room after the game, presenting Liam Cohen with a game

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00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: ball for his first in a victory and welcome back

1102
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: Hover forever, forever and ever. I love it. The Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Happy Hour our number two is presented by mister Chubby's

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00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: Wings before the game, after the game, and during the game.

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Speaker 2: We're on tentin XLM, Jaguars dot com and Jaguars YouTube,

1106
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: and well here we are. The Jaguars want to know

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00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: after a win over the Panthers twenty six to ten,

1108
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: dominating the Panthers with physical play all around, especially on offense.

1109
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: The Jags ran for two hundred yards, one hundred and

1110
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: forty three of that from Travis et and Junior. The

1111
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: defense was rather spicy as well, three takeaways after only

1112
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: nine a season ago. They shut down the Carolina run

1113
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: game for the most part and harassed Bryce Young a

1114
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: lot of the day. Penalty is an issue, eleven for

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00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: ninety three yards, were two more declined. They overcame the

1116
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: lightning delay after the first touchdown of the game and

1117
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: then came back out with the same energy and pulled away.

1118
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: And now we're on to Cincinnati. The Bengals somehow won

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00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: against the Browns yesterday seventeen sixteen, and here we are

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Speaker 2: one and oh, Pete Victory Mundo, you.

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Speaker 5: Know what, I didn't see your signal that you were

1122
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 5: going to break. So that's my bad because she I

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00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 5: got cut off.

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00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: We were waiting for the thrilling conclusion of your point.

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Speaker 5: No, the point was on Allen's play.

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00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 6: They clearly wanted to get him in space in a

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00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 6: one on one situation, and you know what, the way

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00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 6: it was designed, if it if the guy had made

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00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 6: his block, he would have been in space in a

1130
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 6: one on one situation where the chance to score a touchdown.

1131
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 6: So I think they have plans for him clearly in

1132
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 6: that passing game, which is which is smart because but

1133
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 6: that means four back's gonna play he said that too.

1134
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 5: He never shied away from that. They always said four,

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00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 5: we're gonna play.

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00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: That's right, had them all up and they all played.

1137
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: By the way. Bisby did not have a first half

1138
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 2: carry in the game.

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00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 5: Did Tutans did right at the end of the first

1140
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Speaker 5: thing a couple.

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00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: Right after the long run, yes, before the Brian Thomas

1142
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: Junior carry for a touchdown. Let's take a look at

1143
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: the AFC South. Of course, the Jaguars and the Indianapolis

1144
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: Colts are tied for first in the division. The Colts

1145
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: blew out the Dolphins yesterday, the Texans lost, the Titans lost,

1146
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 2: which is great for everybody. And that's where we looked

1147
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 2: at the AFC South. The you know, let's see what

1148
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: happened yesterday. What what happened that the Colts just dominated

1149
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: the Dolphins Miami and the Dolphins happened.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Miami's bad. They Tua was terrible, The secondary

1151
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 6: is awful. It just they weren't very good and they

1152
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 6: got They made Daniel Jones look.

1153
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 5: Like Peyton Manning and a Colt's unifor him. I mean,

1154
00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 5: he was good.

1155
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 6: And so the Colts might be better than we thought

1156
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 6: because defensively they did some really good things as well,

1157
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 6: and so they might be better than we thought because

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00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 6: they got a physical They're talking about a team that

1159
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 6: can be physical in both lines when they have Buckner

1160
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 6: and Stewart going in the middle of that line that's physical,

1161
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 6: and then the offensive line a lot. You know, when

1162
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 6: they're on the field, they're healthy and tough. So that

1163
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 6: could be a problem that think might be better than

1164
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 6: we think they are.

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00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, in terms of skill positions too, you still have

1166
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor's running at a very high rate. Tyler Warren

1167
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 4: now seems like he's picking up the offense pretty quickly.

1168
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 4: Josh Down's one of the most underrated wide receivers, I

1169
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 4: feel like, just in terms of being the gadget guy

1170
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 4: and being a speed guy. But you know, it's hard

1171
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 4: to tell because I've watched a lot of that game.

1172
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 4: The Dolphins just looked so bad, you know, so it's

1173
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 4: hard to tell really how good are the Colts. But

1174
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, condolence is the Giants

1175
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 4: fans because you watch Saquon Barkley go out the door

1176
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: and do his thing, and now are they going to

1177
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 4: watch David Jones have a little resurgence to become day

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Speaker 4: dimes again.

1179
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Speaker 6: Don't forget about Zaviory McKinney, who was in the Defensive

1180
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Speaker 6: Player of the Year right, yeah, raced last year in

1181
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 6: Bay Yeah yeah, I'll tell you what though, Xavi and

1182
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 6: Howard was picked up off the scrap heap and just

1183
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 6: starting a corner for him.

1184
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's a good thing.

1185
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: Rams over the Texans fourteen to nine.

1186
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 5: Same problems for the Texans.

1187
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 6: The offensive line stinks, and they were gonna start ed

1188
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 6: Ingram at right guard, and he got got hurt on

1189
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 6: Thursday and practice, so they shuffled.

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00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 5: They put they were.

1191
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 6: Gonna start Ursery the rookie, at left tackle, and Titus

1192
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 6: Howard at right tackle. Well, when Ingram went down, they

1193
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 6: moved Howard to right guard and put Cam Robinson back

1194
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 6: in at left tackle, played Ery at right tackle, and

1195
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 6: it didn't work and Cam was actually wasn't awful.

1196
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 5: But the line isn't very good. So there, that's gonna

1197
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 5: be a problem for them all year long.

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Speaker 6: And you saw last year he didn't look like the

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Speaker 6: same guy with that line.

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Speaker 2: Their defense is nasty though, yeah, oh, defense is legit.

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Speaker 4: And also at running back and then now Mixing being

1202
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 4: out too, so you don't really have a safe checkdown

1203
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 4: because you had Nick Chubb and then kept Damian Pierce

1204
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 4: back there. And yeah, Stroud just didn't look comfortable back there, man.

1205
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 5: And but their defense is going to keep him in

1206
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 5: a lot of games.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they kept the Rams and check Now the

1208
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 6: Rams don't run that well, so it's easier to defend them,

1209
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 6: I think. But their defense is nasty.

1210
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 5: But all the corners can play.

1211
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 6: The safeties are good that you know, the pass rush

1212
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 6: is good.

1213
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 5: They're gonna be tough to move the ball on consistently.

1214
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: And finally, the Titans lost to Denver yesterday twenty to

1215
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 2: twelve drops in the game, thirteen penalties on the Titans,

1216
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 2: and then what the what the hell's the coach doing

1217
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: with the replay thing? He was confused after the game,

1218
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: he couldn't review it. What happened here?

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Speaker 5: It?

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Speaker 6: Well, first off, cam Ward did some get Ridley had

1221
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 6: a drop late in the game that might have had

1222
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 6: a chance to get get him down there and where

1223
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 6: they had a chance to tie the game.

1224
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 5: But their defense actually played pretty good football.

1225
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 6: They made bow Knicks turn the ball over four times

1226
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 6: I think in that game, where three times.

1227
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 5: Uh, they did the Broncos.

1228
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 6: For all to talk about the Broncos being the you

1229
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 6: know team and the super can get to the Super Bowl.

1230
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 6: I didn't see that in that game at all. Now,

1231
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 6: that's only one game, but they didn't show well. Cam

1232
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 6: Ward had some good things and had some really bad things.

1233
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 6: But that's a tough place to play against that defense

1234
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 6: on the road to open your career.

1235
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 5: It really is.

1236
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, couldn't happen group though John Peyton did him a

1237
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: favor too.

1238
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 5: By the way, John Peyton did him a favor.

1239
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 6: It was twenty to twelve, they had a fourth down,

1240
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 6: could have kicked the late in the game, could have

1241
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 6: kicked the I think it would have been a fifty

1242
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 6: something yard fifty one yard field goal.

1243
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 5: With fifty three yard field goal.

1244
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 6: Which in altitude is ten yards, you know, it's much easier.

1245
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 5: And he decides he's going to go for him fourth

1246
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 5: and seven.

1247
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 4: I think it was was like fourth and seven, fourth

1248
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 4: and eight. Yeah, and did they go deep with it

1249
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: instead of just yeah with me? Zero sense? I mean

1250
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 4: at elevation, especially after kickers making fifty yard field goals,

1251
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 4: at making it.

1252
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 6: Eleven, you making it an eleven point game, and the

1253
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 6: game's over going for it and he didn't kick it.

1254
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 6: And I will say this though, Bo Nicks picked the

1255
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 6: wrong receiver because the other.

1256
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 5: One on the other sid had crossed over.

1257
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 6: It wasn't the sole near him, but he predetermined where

1258
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 6: he's going before the snap, and that thing went incomplete.

1259
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: Jaguars, of course, got the victory twenty six to ten

1260
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 2: over the Carolina Panthers. You know, our previous co host,

1261
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 2: Pete loved the PFF grades. I'm curious if Austin feels

1262
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: the same way. What are your thoughts you don't love it?

1263
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm being completely transparent, if you've listened

1264
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 4: to some other shows I've been on, sometimes I refer

1265
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 4: to them as nerds.

1266
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: You're another show.

1267
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: I'm another show. I'm a prelancer, man, I do what

1268
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: I want you.

1269
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: That's all good, No worries. That was not on the

1270
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: broch shirt.

1271
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 4: Oh my bad, Sorry that wasn't in the resume. No, okay,

1272
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 4: but yeah, I've said before. You know, sometimes it's it's

1273
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 4: a bunch of nerds with glasses that don't understand the

1274
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 4: game of football.

1275
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: Tournament with the nerds with glasses, what is that supposed to?

1276
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 3: Because here's what it means.

1277
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 4: It means like you go with an analytical approach, but

1278
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 4: do you know is this defensive tackle dropped back into coverage?

1279
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 4: Is he supposed to stunt? Is he playing it straight up? Like,

1280
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 4: unless you know like the scheme, unless you talk to

1281
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 4: the coaches, unless you talk to the players, there's no

1282
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 4: way of knowing exactly what this guy's responsibility is. So

1283
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 4: you can go and turn on the film and be like, Okay, whoa,

1284
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 4: this guy got reached here. Well maybe that was maybe

1285
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 4: supposed to have outside contained as a defensive tackle on

1286
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,959
Speaker 4: a stunt. So when it's plays like that, they don't

1287
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 4: know exactly what the defense is running.

1288
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: That's my issue with it.

1289
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 6: You know, it's funny, you're right, Austin, But they always say,

1290
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 6: we're our coaches know what the scheme is, so they'll

1291
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 6: have it. And I've actually went when I went down

1292
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 6: to Arizona years ago and watched watched tape with with

1293
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 6: a bunch of offensive linemen in the league, and we sat

1294
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 6: there and we got into this debate about PFF and

1295
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 6: they said, I don't know what the assignment is on

1296
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 6: his team. When I watched the tape, I know what

1297
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 6: mine is. He doesn't know what mine is and I

1298
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 6: don't know what his is. How the hell can they

1299
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 6: grade us based on thinking what the assignment is? They

1300
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 6: don't know, and so it's it's really unfair, but they

1301
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 6: do it.

1302
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 5: And you want to hear how unfair it is.

1303
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 6: In their grading scheme from Sunday, Bryce Shong had a

1304
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 6: higher grade than Trevor Lawrence.

1305
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: How's that?

1306
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 5: How the hell do I know? I mean Trevor through

1307
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 5: an interception, but Bryce through to this.

1308
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: Four down.

1309
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no way Price Young played better than Trevor Lawrence.

1310
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 5: I do not know. You want me to give you

1311
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 5: the grades? Okay, who do you think we'll take one

1312
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 5: guy out.

1313
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 6: Because he's you know, he played a little bit. Who

1314
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 6: do you think the highest graded offensive player was for Jacksonville?

1315
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: I mean you have to go taking Trames ctn out.

1316
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, he's in it. He's in it.

1317
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean I would say the highest grade has

1318
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 4: gotta be Travis etn Well.

1319
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 5: Strange was the highest grade.

1320
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: Oh okay, oh yeah, because he was good in a.

1321
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 5: Run blocking, good in passed protection. You know, he did

1322
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 5: it across the board. It went like this.

1323
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 6: Strange was one Hainsey, who I thought had a really

1324
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 6: good game was two, Harrison was three and Etn was four,

1325
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 6: So you know that's I had after watching the tape.

1326
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 5: Harrison and Hainesy were good. I thought Cleveland was good too.

1327
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 5: And he's right behind him. McCarry was good. He's right

1328
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 5: behind him. And then you go Walker Little was down

1329
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 5: a ways because Walker Little still has problems a little

1330
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 5: bit in the run game. He's not as good as

1331
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 5: he could be in that. And then all the way

1332
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 5: who the Brian Thomas and Travis Hunter eighteen and ninety.

1333
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hunter had what six sketches.

1334
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, for about twenty yards thirty three thirty three.

1335
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 6: He was, by the way on that screen pass, he

1336
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 6: was a two screen passes. If Brian Thomas Junior makes

1337
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 6: his block on the outside instead of getting.

1338
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 5: Blown up, that's going to be a big play.

1339
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 6: And then on the one on the inside screen, the

1340
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 6: defensive tackle Derek Brown has made a really good play

1341
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 6: coming off, coming off and making the play otherwise that

1342
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 6: would have been a decent play.

1343
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: And then if Trevor gets into the throwdown field that

1344
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: he got intercepted, that's he's open behind him.

1345
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 6: Well, Trevor needed to because Brian Thomas Junior was open.

1346
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 5: Underneath, and Trevor needed to hold him, hold j C.

1347
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 6: Horn on Thomas for a second longer, and then he

1348
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:56,959
Speaker 6: gets it over his head.

1349
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 5: He kind of comes off of him, and you could

1350
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 5: say he's.

1351
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 6: Gonna throw that ball when you watch the tavy because

1352
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 6: he's gonna throw it, but he needed to keep.

1353
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 5: His eyes on Thomas more and then throw it, you

1354
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 5: know what I mean, because he's sunk on that play.

1355
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 6: He made a really good play, but that's a big

1356
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 6: play if he puts it over the top of him.

1357
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 3: In terms of gamescript everything, because I get this was

1358
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 3: third and long. I think he had a.

1359
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 4: Penalty or something here, but it seemed like they almost

1360
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 4: were trying to force feed Brian Thomas Junior and Travis

1361
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 4: Hunter at the end right where you're upcomfortably. Usually in

1362
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: the past to be okay, just run the football, run

1363
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 4: the clock out, and we didn't really see that from

1364
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 4: this team.

1365
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 5: You know.

1366
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 4: Reminded me of the remind me of last year when

1367
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 4: Minnesota was here and then Justin Jefferson had a quiet

1368
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 4: day and they kept trying to force feed him the

1369
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 4: ball in the end zone and Donald threw like two

1370
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 4: or three interceptions that game. It seemed like they were

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01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 4: trying to go out of their way to appease Brian

1372
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Speaker 4: Thomas Junior and Travis Hunter. And I'm just I'm wondering,

1373
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 4: I mean, was that the right? Obviously it was fine

1374
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 4: because he won the football game, it's all that matters,

1375
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 4: But like, would you like to see him run the

1376
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 4: football little more to run the clock out or is

1377
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 4: your job now when you're up by so much you're

1378
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,439
Speaker 4: comfortable to get your playmakers the ball.

1379
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 6: No, I was okay with that because that was, like

1380
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 6: you mentioned, that was a third and long situation right there.

1381
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 4: But I'm saying throughout the entirety of the second half, though,

1382
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 4: it seemed like they were trying to pass a little more.

1383
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 6: Well, if they were trying to get the ball to

1384
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 6: Ryan Thomas, they didn't do a very good job of

1385
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 6: it because he didn't get.

1386
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 5: The ball very much. So you know that's something that

1387
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 5: and well, I think we're going to talk about that later,

1388
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 5: but we're gonna keep it. Yeah, what about the defensive grades.

1389
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 6: Who's the highest rated defensive player?

1390
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 5: He was by far and away, then Devin Lloyd was second.

1391
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 5: By the way.

1392
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 6: Hinz Allen had some pressures he didn't get a sack,

1393
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 6: but he.

1394
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 5: Had some pressures. In fact, I think he was credited.

1395
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: With seven of them and said a smooth sacked too

1396
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: on their game on the outside.

1397
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 6: He's third, then Murray, who I thought played well as

1398
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 6: fourth guardak fifth and wingered is sixth.

1399
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 4: And all the way down to the bottom Hamilton, because

1400
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 4: I thought Hamilton in terms of you know, obviously he

1401
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 4: gave up that that run to Bryce you on, but

1402
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 4: also in the one game he got reached I probably

1403
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 4: a couple of times.

1404
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1405
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 6: In fact, the defensive tackles Hamilton bottom, then uh Saunders sixteen,

1406
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 6: Johnson fifteen, and Armstead twelve, So all of the tackles

1407
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 6: were twelve down. So they were the lowest rated guys

1408
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 6: on that team. And that's you can't argue with that.

1409
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 6: That's that's that's what that tackle group is right now.

1410
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have it. PFF grades are in your first

1411
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 2: experience for those Austin, Yeah, you love them.

1412
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna lie as much as I

1413
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 4: was hating on him in the to start the segment,

1414
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 4: they didn't make a lot of sense.

1415
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: I mean I would they made this.

1416
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 5: They were pretty spot on on this group except for

1417
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 5: the quarterbacks. Yeah, the quarterback.

1418
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 6: There's no way, There's no way in hell Bryce Young

1419
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 6: should be graded over.

1420
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 4: I mean start putting my body language into PFF as well,

1421
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 4: because if you saw the body language from Bryce Sung

1422
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 4: on the sideline, man, let's go ahead, knock him down

1423
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 4: another five six points?

1424
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I probably have bad body language if I

1425
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 2: threw in the stands unfourth down two. Guess what something?

1426
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 6: Brian Thomas has bad body language sometimes when he doesn't

1427
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 6: get the ball.

1428
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: By the way, we'll come back in a moment and

1429
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: keep it real about Brian Thomas Junior and the chemistry

1430
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 2: or lack thereof with the quarterback. How about that Pete

1431
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: you got it?

1432
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 5: I like it.

1433
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: How about them out Austin. You're into that? Oh yeah,

1434
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: bite them and see let's go. Let's do it, mister

1435
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1446
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Speaker 9: I think we try to get him a touch on

1447
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 9: the first or second drive of the game. First play

1448
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 9: of the game, right, we don't convert it, throw him

1449
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 9: a screen low doesn't come down with it. And then

1450
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 9: the flow of the game, we missed him on an

1451
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 9: inbreaker which he had a lot of room to run,

1452
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 9: missed him on a corner route where he was fairly open,

1453
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 9: and then missed you know, had the one on the

1454
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 9: out of bounds. So you're talking about that's five catches

1455
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 9: right there. That gets him into the flow of it.

1456
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 9: It's just the way the game went, and you know,

1457
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 9: we got to details of route running, timing, depth, the

1458
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 9: quarterback protection, everything goes into it. So I fully anticipate

1459
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 9: him being able to get going.

1460
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen today, when I asked about Brian tom Us

1461
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 2: Junior's performance in the game and Welcome Back in Is

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1469
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Speaker 2: Pete Prisco. It's time now for keeping it real. Still unsponsored, amazing, shocking, back,

1470
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Speaker 2: stunning Austin.

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Speaker 4: I'm just stealing the music. Now you're end of the vibes. Yeah, sorry,

1472
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 4: we're grounded. I'm grounded round.

1473
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: All right. It is about Brian Thomas Junior. Let's keep

1474
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 2: it real. He was targeted seven times, only one reception

1475
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 2: for eleven yards. He did have the handoff in a

1476
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 2: round touchdown on the ground, which is great to see.

1477
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: Is there you know? Is it a chemistry thing? He

1478
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: just went through all of the most of the targets yesterday.

1479
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: Is it a concern long term or is it a

1480
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: blip on the radar? Austin. What do you think.

1481
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna call it a blip on the radar.

1482
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it a one off. Now, there is

1483
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 4: a little concern because if you go back to last

1484
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 4: season when Trevor Lawrence was in, like there wasn't a

1485
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 4: lot of chemistry either. It took It took Trevor Lawrence

1486
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 4: getting hurt and Mac Jones coming in to, you know,

1487
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 4: build that relationship with Brian Thomas Junior making the fantasy

1488
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 4: darling that he was last year. Now he fast forward

1489
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 4: to this season. It's not for a lack of effort.

1490
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 4: The very first play of the game. You want to

1491
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 4: talk about being physical and everything. You want to run

1492
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 4: the football, what do you do You you have Brian

1493
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 4: Simas Junior on a little bit of a goal route.

1494
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 4: Ball's a little underthrown and it's an incompletion. So they're

1495
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 4: gonna try to get him the football. And that's what

1496
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 4: Liam Cohen's job is, and I respect it. But whether

1497
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 4: it's that drop ball that he had, whether it was

1498
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 4: the overthrows like they got it, get a better report.

1499
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he had had a great summer, you guys

1500
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 6: know that. I mean, there was concerns about him in

1501
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 6: the summer. He wasn't winning fifty to fifty balls of practice.

1502
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 6: He dropped a bunch of practice and so, but he's

1503
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 6: a gamer, and I thought when the lights went on,

1504
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 6: he'd be a gamer.

1505
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 5: Let's be real.

1506
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 6: The passing game, it wasn't just like it was him.

1507
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 6: I mean, Travis Hunter caught six balls for thirty yards

1508
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 6: or whatever, thirty three yards. The ball wasn't really going

1509
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 6: down the field.

1510
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 5: They didn't. They didn't.

1511
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 6: Who had the longest throw might have been the strange

1512
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 6: in the middle.

1513
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 2: Of the field. Janmy Brown had a twenty three yarder.

1514
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, but so so I think from that standpoint, whether missus.

1515
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, the first play of the game, he wasn't open.

1516
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 5: He didn't run by that guy.

1517
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 6: You know that when you get what that's when the

1518
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 6: quarterback comes to a lot of scrimmage. And Trevor even

1519
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 6: said this when I talked to him in May. If

1520
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 6: he sees one on one with Brian Thomas.

1521
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 5: He's going there. Well he went. It just didn't connect.

1522
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 5: There were other throws where he could have hit him.

1523
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 6: You know, I told you on the one he was

1524
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,479
Speaker 6: picked off on he could have had if he wanted

1525
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 6: to take the underneath rout.

1526
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,479
Speaker 5: He had him there. But yeah, it wasn't like they're

1527
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 5: not trying to get him the football.

1528
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 6: I just think the game plan was to be physical

1529
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 6: and throw off the physical.

1530
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 5: Run game, and it just didn't. Mesh didn't work out.

1531
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 5: I mean, think about what he had. Seven targets. Is

1532
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 5: that what it was?

1533
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: Jason correct? Seven targets, one catch, eleven yards?

1534
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 5: Okay.

1535
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 6: I think I'm trying to think of the sixth where

1536
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 6: he didn't catch it, the one what happened, the one

1537
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 6: down the sideline, that's one of them.

1538
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 4: There's the overthrow that he ran the corner out where

1539
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 4: he was wide open. Trever's has to hit him and

1540
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 4: Trevor overthrew him.

1541
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got to hit that. The one where he

1542
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 5: got his feet and bounds and they said he didn't remember.

1543
01:08:55,880 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 5: I thought he caught that ball. I think so then

1544
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 5: you think he got both seat down.

1545
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 3: I mean it was close.

1546
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 4: You know, like the they didn't review it, did they

1547
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 4: They just they they didn't review it. They did review it, okay,

1548
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 4: so yeah, because it was they called it incompletion and

1549
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 4: then I guess an evidence wasn't there enough to overturn it.

1550
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 3: I mean I thought it was. I thought it was

1551
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 3: a coin flip.

1552
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 4: And I thought since airing on the side of they

1553
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 4: called it incomplete, they went with that.

1554
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 5: I thought at first they called it complete and reversed it.

1555
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 5: Maybe I'm wrong.

1556
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: I can't. I don't know the game. When of the

1557
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 2: game was this. I don't remember this.

1558
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 5: It was in the fourth court, the fourth quarter, on

1559
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 5: the sideline.

1560
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 2: Back to your point of throwing the ball up two scores.

1561
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I told you, man, they're they're trying to get

1562
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 3: their their plate.

1563
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 5: Maybe it was in the third quarter, right, trying to think.

1564
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 2: There's no fourth quarter, nine to fifty nine to go,

1565
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: pass short right, pushed out of bounds of the seventeen

1566
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 2: going in fourteen yards, uh past challenged by Carolina. So

1567
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 2: it was okay then, yeah, I stand corrected.

1568
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 5: I thought he caught it. I thought he caught it.

1569
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 5: But there's one of a So I'm just trying to think.

1570
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 5: It wasn't like any other than the corner route that

1571
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 5: was open.

1572
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 6: There weren't any blatant misses by Trevor on them.

1573
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 5: I didn't think.

1574
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that hasn't worked.

1575
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 5: Say it hasn't worked the same this summer for some reason.

1576
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 2: Now you're pointing on Austin earlier. I mean most there

1577
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: was a game, the Minnesota game last year. I don't

1578
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 2: know it was that week ten, probably something like that. Yeah,

1579
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 2: three targets, two catches, twelve yards. They just weren't throwing

1580
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 2: them the football a lot, especially you know, first part

1581
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 2: of the season, midway through the season. Then the Houston

1582
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,480
Speaker 2: game hits, and that's when that's when Trevor had the concussion,

1583
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 2: right December first. Every game the rest of the way

1584
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 2: he had double digit targets and had eight or seven

1585
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: or more catches in the last five games of the season.

1586
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 4: Mac Jones, well, I remember that that Minnesota game stood

1587
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 4: out to me because like there was moments where he

1588
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 4: was open, they just weren't looking his way. And then

1589
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 4: finally I just think that they had no other choice

1590
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 4: but to go to Bryanton. He was all the right

1591
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 4: and now whether and a lot of that was you know,

1592
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 4: there was like these screens and everything, these bubble screens.

1593
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 4: But that's the thing with Brian Thomas junior as well,

1594
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 4: and you're going to see this in Liam Collen's offense,

1595
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,799
Speaker 4: is if you get this guy the ball in space,

1596
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 4: he's quick enough he's he's fast footed enough where that's

1597
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 4: a word, fast footed, but he's quick enough where he

1598
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 4: can get open and.

1599
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:19,799
Speaker 3: Make plays with his speed.

1600
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 4: You just gotta get him the football right, whether it's

1601
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 4: a corner route, whether it's a slant like, just get

1602
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 4: the ball in his hands and let him do his thing.

1603
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 5: What did let me ask this? Did anybody talk to

1604
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:30,759
Speaker 5: me after the game?

1605
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was here in studio. I did

1606
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 2: not see any video of that.

1607
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't see anything either.

1608
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:40,440
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, so if he's around on Wednesday,

1609
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 6: that should be the first you got it?

1610
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,759
Speaker 5: Why aren't you getting the ball more? You know that? Shoot?

1611
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 5: You know me JP back in the day, I would

1612
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 5: have had a headline out of.

1613
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 2: That damn thing. Yeah oh yeah on the on Monday.

1614
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, you come over and you go, hey, you know,

1615
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 6: you should be catching seven eight balls a game. And

1616
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 6: then the guy goes off and says, you damn, I'm open.

1617
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 4: But but here's the thing, and this is the difference

1618
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 4: I think from last year to this year now, is

1619
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 4: they're trying to get him the ball. Like when it

1620
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,719
Speaker 4: was Doug Peterson's offense last year. To start out that season,

1621
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 4: they weren't even looking his way, And it was frustrating

1622
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 4: because you take a guy in the first round with

1623
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 4: his resume of being the speedster, you're not looking his

1624
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 4: way at least, Like I get it. If you're playing

1625
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 4: fantasy football, you didn't like the numbers yesterday, right, if

1626
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 4: you're a Jaguars fan, you're probably a little leader from

1627
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 4: the numbers yesterday. But it wasn't for a lack of effort. Now, Yeah,

1628
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 4: Trevor's gotta hit him on that corner route. Yes, he

1629
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 4: has to catch that ball, Brian Thomas, do you're not

1630
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,799
Speaker 4: drop it? Like there's plenty of blame to go around,

1631
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 4: but the fact is that they're gonna get him the football, like,

1632
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 4: they're gonna give him opportunities to It's not like last

1633
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 4: year where it's like, well, why aren't they doing this?

1634
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 4: Why don't they They're doing it now, just got to

1635
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 4: connect on it.

1636
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 5: How many proposed did Trevor end up with to.

1637
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 2: The day Trevor Lawrence in the game. The statistics say

1638
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 2: nineteen of thirty one attempts.

1639
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 14: So thirty one attempts and seven of them went to

1640
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 14: Brian Thomas. Yes, so ratio, it's not abnormal. Something like that,

1641
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 14: you're not hitting them.

1642
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 5: That's the problem. He's just not hitting them. And he's

1643
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 5: got to hit those, particularly that corner round. He's got

1644
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 5: to hit that.

1645
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 2: So but it's a quarterback issue. Then also it's both,

1646
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 2: it's both sides of this equation.

1647
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 5: It feels like, let me ask you this.

1648
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 6: If if you could say you're gonna rush for over

1649
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 6: two hundred yards every game and Bryant and Brian Thomas

1650
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 6: is only going to get a couple of catches, I

1651
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 6: think the Jaguars would take that.

1652
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 5: That means you're winning and you're running it. They would

1653
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 5: take that.

1654
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they not if you're winning, they would absolutely

1655
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: take that.

1656
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because and.

1657
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 5: Again it's not like somebody else is getting all the catches.

1658
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 5: The other guy had six for thirty three and it's

1659
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 5: like six for thirty three. He could fall forward and

1660
01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 5: get that average.

1661
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 4: No, and I get that, But I think what it

1662
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 4: comes down to Pete is and I'm not saying Brian

1663
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 4: Thomas junior to the level of a Jefferson or a

1664
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 4: Tyreek Killer or an elite wide receiver.

1665
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be okay, exactly.

1666
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 4: So if he's supposed to be at what point if

1667
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 4: you're the Jaggars and you're Liam Cohen. Do you go, Well,

1668
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 4: I don't care how much we're up. I don't care

1669
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 4: how much we're rushing the football. We gotta take care

1670
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 4: of Brian Thomas Junior. Like we have to get him

1671
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 4: the football. We have to get him his yards. That's

1672
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 4: that's what elite wide receivers get. They get that special treatment.

1673
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 6: But they were playing a lot of off cover, which

1674
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 6: is why Jacksonville ran the ball too. You know, I

1675
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 6: mean if if he goes three games like this, then

1676
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 6: we've got a major story. Oh one game, Yeah, but

1677
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 6: one game is kind of an aberration normally, look at that.

1678
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 3: Look at A J.

1679
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 4: Brown last year, like they were winning in Philadelphia, they

1680
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 4: were on the road of the Super Bowl.

1681
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 3: A J. Brown wasn't getting the ball with He said

1682
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 3: he had an issue with it.

1683
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 4: And this is a guy who was part of a

1684
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 4: winning team that they were parting in all cylinders, but

1685
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:07,679
Speaker 4: he wasn't getting the football.

1686
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 3: So he had something to say. And then they added

1687
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 3: up point he got and he had one.

1688
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 5: By the way, he had one catch in their opener

1689
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 5: on Thursday.

1690
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1691
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 5: One.

1692
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, It's just I think if you run the ball

1693
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 6: for towndred yards and you're not taking a lot of shots,

1694
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 6: then you're not gonna have a lot of catches. If

1695
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 6: you're a bad team, the receiver are gonna have even

1696
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 6: more catches.

1697
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 5: That's obvious, so I think.

1698
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 6: But if you go into Cincinnati the Bengals are scoring

1699
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 6: and Jacksonville has to score and he's not getting the

1700
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 6: ball and other guys are, then you got it.

1701
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 5: Then you start to well, there might be something here.

1702
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 2: We'll keep it real next week. If that's the case

1703
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 2: with the same topic, we'll see what happens moving ahead.

1704
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 5: Keeping They always run a reverse for him.

1705
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 2: They couldn't they You probably will just for you. It's

1706
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 2: your new stream. There's a touchdown. What else do you want?

1707
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 5: Oh, it's a good play call.

1708
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 6: But I guarantee if you asked him, would you rather

1709
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 6: have that rushing touchdown or a sixty five yard down

1710
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 6: the field bomb for touchdown?

1711
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 5: Which one? Do you think he takes?

1712
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,919
Speaker 2: No receivers like to receive?

1713
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 5: Of course they did.

1714
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: It works.

1715
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,560
Speaker 5: We're back running.

1716
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 6: Backs six and you count the Hommy Brown.

1717
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: Pull Deebo Samuel and just line up in the back

1718
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,400
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1719
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:35,280
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1723
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 9: Some footwork things. You know, there was a couple uh

1724
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 9: on the mistargeted throws that you know, if you look

1725
01:16:55,400 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 9: at he's nineteen at thirty one. We missed four screen No.

1726
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 9: Three screens on Omaha to Diami on the right sideline,

1727
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 9: and then you talk about the one to BT. It's

1728
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 9: like a few of those, and he's twenty five at

1729
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 9: thirty one for two hundred plus. And now you're talking

1730
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 9: it's not about the stats. It's about the balance. You know,

1731
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 9: It's about the balance. And so if you're sitting there

1732
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 9: saying he could have been twenty five at thirty one

1733
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,560
Speaker 9: for two hundred plus and you try to eliminate the turnover,

1734
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 9: you're sitting there saying he had a damn good game.

1735
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 9: So what's nice is that I thought he operated the

1736
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 9: offense really well. I thought he had a great command,

1737
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 9: he uses cadence, We got the free play response. There

1738
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 9: were some really good things that did show up.

1739
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 2: Willam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, discussing the quarterback play Trevor

1740
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 2: Lawrence in the game against the Panthers at twenty six

1741
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:56,799
Speaker 2: to ten. Victory and welcome back. Jaguars. Happy Hour continues

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Speaker 2: our second Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings, JP Shackdrick

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Speaker 2: Austin Lane at the Hyundai Studios inside the Miller Electric Center,

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Speaker 2: good place to be today on Victory Monday. Pete Prisco

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Speaker 2: down in South Florida, CBS Sports senior writer. Are we

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Speaker 2: ready for the fanatics fan questions? Yes, we are, Austin,

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Speaker 2: I was expecting more out of you. Are you excited?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm always excited for the fan questions. Man, I

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01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 4: was trying to be a man of the people, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So yeah, let's just's try to

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Speaker 4: appease the people.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. Yes, it is time for the fanatics

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Speaker 2: fan questions. Jaggs fans gear up at fanatics dot com

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Speaker 2: put The cat signal out here is the best we've

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Speaker 2: come up with today. Jordan Lewis will be one of

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01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: the best free agent signings in how many years?

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Speaker 5: H wow?

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Speaker 2: I mean the best to me in recent history, the

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01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 2: best free agent signing was Kalis Campbell. Oh of course, yeah.

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01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 4: I mean I think we talked about Klais Campbell. He

1763
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 4: had such an effect on the game. He made his

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01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 4: impact pretty much in every single play. Now, can Jordan

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01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 4: Lewis do that? Probably not, but based off what we've

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01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 4: seen so far, and I'm gonna give him a bump

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01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 4: as well, just because of the mentality that he brings

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01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 4: in that locker room, I think he's up there.

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Speaker 5: What do they say, the best ever or the best

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Speaker 5: in years?

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Speaker 2: In years? I don't know. Okay, yeah, I think that's pretty.

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Speaker 5: The best ever. The best ever. The two best ever

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01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 5: are Leon and Keenan.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, and they were both they were both free

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01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 6: agents unrestricted free agents, so that they're the To me,

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01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 6: they're the two best ever.

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01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,759
Speaker 5: Leon seriously was a dominant right tackle.

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01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 6: Keenan mccardill was one of the best receivers in team

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01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 6: history and one of the top receivers in league history.

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01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 6: So those two are the top free agents they ever

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01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 6: had as far as recent history.

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Speaker 5: Klayis Campbell's that guy.

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01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 2: Does any of these, Yeah, do any of these guys

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Speaker 2: that they signed in this class? I mean it's a

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Speaker 2: good start, right, Yeah, it's a great start.

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Speaker 4: But like wasn't Klays Campbell in All Pro and two

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01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 4: positions in Jacksonville? So does Lewis play linebacker as well?

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01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: He was playing inside? Anna Allis I saw a little

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Speaker 2: bit yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but Lewis Lewis will be a good signing and

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Speaker 6: it will be here for a couple of years.

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Speaker 5: Murray is a good signing for now. I don't know,

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01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 5: you know, he's.

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Speaker 6: Not a kid, so he you know, you can't say

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Speaker 6: he's going to be around here for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Well, keep in mind too, they have Caleb Bransaw, who

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Speaker 4: you know, I think we're all excited to see just

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Speaker 4: based off of his speed and when what he could

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Speaker 4: do out for the season next year, you think his

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Speaker 4: name will be mentioned as as a starting state after

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Speaker 4: at least competing for that spot.

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Speaker 2: Luiken is still right there too, has been a solid

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Speaker 2: player here, but on some bad defenses. So who knows?

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Speaker 2: All right, next question at Robbie Santis. With the performance

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Speaker 2: that each had yesterday, what does that say about his

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Speaker 2: future with this team and the usage of others. We

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Speaker 2: touched on this a little earlier, but what do you feel, Pete.

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Speaker 6: I think he's going to be the lead back for

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01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 6: at least at first half part of half of this season.

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Speaker 6: As far as the future, I can't imagine them bringing

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Speaker 6: him back.

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Speaker 5: I can't.

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Speaker 6: I just I mean, if he ran for fifteen hundred,

1814
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 6: there would be a market out there for him. If

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01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 6: he ran for a thousand after going for one hundred

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01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,799
Speaker 6: and forty something in the first game, then they're.

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Speaker 5: Not going to bring him back. So I don't. I can't.

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Speaker 6: I can't see any scenario where he's back as the

1819
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 6: running back in Jacksonville next year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, I think in terms of

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01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 4: what you drafted, right, because this is James Gladstone now

1822
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 4: right like Travis Etn wasn't his guy. They don't pick

1823
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Speaker 4: up the fifth year, you know, thing on his contract,

1824
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 4: so you essentially said we're going to move on from you.

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01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 4: You draft Twoton in a higher of a round, so

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01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 4: it's all on the table now. So basically, what I

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01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 4: think with Etn is it's it's his job until it's

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01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 4: not his job anymore, and as long as he can

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Speaker 4: keep on producing, doesn't matter. If it's week four or five, six, seven, eight, Like,

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Speaker 4: if he can keep producing the entire year, then he's

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01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 4: the starter, like he's earned that right. But if he

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Speaker 4: starts faltering a little bit, then I won't be surprised

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Speaker 4: to see more of of a tank Bigsby orre tootonin.

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Speaker 6: By the way, here's the other lesson in this is

1835
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Speaker 6: really important. You're an individual corporation at heart, and he's

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Speaker 6: taken that and done everything in the offseason to make himself,

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01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 6: I think, a better player. So he's marketing himself for

1838
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 6: thirty one other teams with the idea that he's probably

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01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 6: not coming back to Jacksonville smart.

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Speaker 2: Man contract year. That's what That's what these things do

1841
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 2: from time to time, and we'll see if he can

1842
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Speaker 2: keep it going, certainly. Next question that Jags fan five

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Speaker 2: eight five eight. How did Trayvon Walker and Josh Haynes

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Speaker 2: Allen play. I didn't hear their names much.

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01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 6: The take throws that Josh Finz Allen got a lot

1846
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 6: of pressure, didn't get anybody on the ground, but got pressure.

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01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 6: Now he was working up, work against the backup most

1848
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 6: of the time because the starting tackle wasn't in the game.

1849
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 6: But he still took advantage of it, influenced a couple

1850
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 6: plays with his pressures. I think it was him who

1851
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 6: influenced the throw that was battled down by that knocked

1852
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 6: away by Lewis. There should have been a he couldn't

1853
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 6: really step into the ball, and he influenced that A

1854
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 6: little bit walker solid, nothing great, and he's and he

1855
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 6: for most of the game was working against a pretty

1856
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 6: good right tackle in Mowten.

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01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 5: That's a pretty good player.

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01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 6: But he had a couple couple plays where he got

1859
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 6: in the run game and he got a couple plays

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01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 6: where he did get a little pressure, but it wasn't

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01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 6: He wasn't as loud as I thought he would be.

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01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 6: Heinz Allen was loud in terms of his pressures against

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01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 6: the backup, but they didn't get the quarterback on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Sam.

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Speaker 4: I think, like, if you look at the box score,

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01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 4: it probably didn't knock your socks off or anything.

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Speaker 2: If you're grounding and getting your shoes are off, maybe

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01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 2: you knock your socks.

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Speaker 3: Open your mind a little bit.

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01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 4: But if you want to open your mind, then you

1871
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 4: want to go past the box score. You look at pressures.

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Speaker 4: Then yeah, I think Josh Heinz Allen did really well.

1873
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 4: He came close a couple of times. You could see

1874
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 4: the frustration of because he's he's closing on the record

1875
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 4: now too. I forgot how many he needs to be

1876
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 4: two and a half to surpass the record. Okay, so

1877
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 4: he's he's right on the doorstep of that record. Obviously

1878
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 4: he's trying to go for that. Do his interception the

1879
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 4: pick six that got called Was that Walker on that play?

1880
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 4: Or what was that not on the pick six that

1881
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 4: got called back? Obviously it was Okay, was Walker? So

1882
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 4: like Walker made his presence known a little bit. It

1883
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 4: looked like he kind of had a hand issue for

1884
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 4: some of the game because he came out on the

1885
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 4: sidelines and I saw like on the on the broadcast,

1886
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 4: like there's a trainer by his hands. So I don't

1887
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 4: know if he he messed up his thumb or something.

1888
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, I thought josh Heinz Allen played better than Walker.

1889
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 2: But I don't think either were really a liability out there.

1890
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 5: We'll say this, and I watched some of the Bengals tape.

1891
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 6: Walker has a favorable matchup this week against Mimes.

1892
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 5: On the on the right at the right tackle.

1893
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 6: He he'll have a favorable matchup against him, and and look,

1894
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 6: Brown's okay, but I think Hines can get his rushes

1895
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 6: against him too.

1896
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 2: At surf for jag eleven. How does the coaching staff

1897
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 2: go about addressing the penalty issue? Eleven for ninety three

1898
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 2: yards two more that were declined Austin, what are you saying?

1899
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 2: I mean?

1900
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,759
Speaker 3: Is it going back to the basics again?

1901
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 4: Like listen, we saw this in preseason game number one

1902
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 4: against the Steelers, right, there are some self afflicted penalties.

1903
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 4: Liam Cohen mentioned it. You felt like they were past

1904
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 4: that point. And now Week one against the Panthers and

1905
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 4: now we're right back to kind of where.

1906
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Speaker 3: We started from.

1907
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: So only a couple of pre snap ones, all right,

1908
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of holding calls in game action. But

1909
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 2: to me, like that goes hand in hand though, whether

1910
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: it's the pre snat penalty self inflicted or whether it's

1911
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 2: the holding like that comes down to coaching, coaching.

1912
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Speaker 3: It up better.

1913
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 4: Now, there's some teams in the NFL that have a

1914
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 4: lot of penalties that can.

1915
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 3: Get by with it.

1916
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 4: If you look at last year, the Ravens were tied

1917
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 4: for second and penalties last year, and no one was

1918
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 4: talking about them out they're undisciplined. I mean, they're a

1919
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 4: hard nosed, tough team, right. The Jaguars aren't quite there

1920
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 4: yet to make up for all those self inflicted penalties.

1921
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 3: I get it.

1922
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 4: You played the Carolina Panthers, and the Panthers is what

1923
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 4: they are, who they are. But when you play a

1924
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 4: more quality team like the Kansas City Chiefs or even

1925
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 4: the Bengals, you can't have us up so stuff like

1926
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 4: the penalties.

1927
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,719
Speaker 5: Did you think there was a hold on month?

1928
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 6: That was because it looked like it was a good

1929
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 6: block and then somehow his hand kind of got caught up.

1930
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Speaker 5: You remember when they called.

1931
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 3: The whole Now, I know exactly what you're talking about.

1932
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 4: See, I'm gonna always err on the side more of

1933
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 4: the player than than the call because like it when

1934
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 4: it's happening in live reps.

1935
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 3: I thought that was a good block, right, Like you

1936
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 3: see that.

1937
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 4: All the time in practice, or I can call that

1938
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 4: in practice, and I get games are different, but I

1939
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 4: thought it was too Yeah.

1940
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 6: And then and then you know got the the holding

1941
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 6: penalty on Was it Jones on that that negated that

1942
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 6: picked six?

1943
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 2: Yes it was?

1944
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 5: Or was it Louise?

1945
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: It was Lewis it was Lewis.

1946
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 6: Lewis, Yeah, he grabbed the jersey, so that was a

1947
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 6: was obvious. Uh what were the other ones though, Like

1948
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 6: I don't know there was another hold on on on on.

1949
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 2: The right guard? Yeah, guard had one, I think.

1950
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, McCarry and he had I mean, he played well,

1951
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 6: but he had his problems with a couple of rushes too.

1952
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 6: But al though, like when you talk about the Ravens penalties,

1953
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 6: when you're getting fifteen yards for putting your forearms somebody's helmet,

1954
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 6: that's a little you could deal with that one a

1955
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 6: little bit better than you can with three pre snap

1956
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,440
Speaker 6: penalties for fifteen.

1957
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1958
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, there's almost some penalties where it's like you're

1959
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,520
Speaker 4: okay with it right because you're you're kind of showcasing

1960
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 4: your physicality, if you will, And that's who the Baltimore

1961
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 4: Ravens were last year. So I think there's some penalties

1962
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 4: when you actually break down penalty about penalty where you'll

1963
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 4: accept that. But in terms of like you know, the

1964
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 4: play that got do we called back right or some

1965
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,799
Speaker 4: of the pre snap things, you can't have those, you know, hainesy.

1966
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 6: But like I always say, if you're backed up on

1967
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 6: your one yard line. It'd be a great like a

1968
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 6: first down play. It's a great place to get a

1969
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 6: cheap shot on somebody for personal foul because all I

1970
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 6: can do is move it back at a couple of inches.

1971
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 3: Oh but we always had We had a call in Detroit.

1972
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 2: No, he's not. So it's just funny to say that

1973
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 2: we uh take some cheap shots, well get two inch.

1974
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 4: We we had to call in Detroit when I played there,

1975
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 4: where you know, like say like that the team's got it,

1976
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 4: like the offense that were going against they have it

1977
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 4: like within the two yard line, right it's first down.

1978
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 4: We always try to jump the snap because okay, if

1979
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 4: we're off sides, what you're gonna move it up an

1980
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 4: inch and reset the play? So be it so like

1981
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 4: we had calls where we'd actually jump the snap every

1982
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 4: single time to try to get the timing down and

1983
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 4: stop them from scoring.

1984
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 6: If you if you're involved in a game with a

1985
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 6: guy and he's irritating the hell out of you're getting

1986
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 6: into with each other, and you're backed up on the

1987
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 6: one yard line and you're an offensive player, why not.

1988
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 5: Take a shot?

1989
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 2: You send a message?

1990
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 6: Yeah fifteen pedally, Oh no, you can't.

1991
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 5: It's gonna be fifteen inches.

1992
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:52,799
Speaker 2: Next question, our last one at Eric Eristine. I'm starting

1993
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 2: to think the Jags can start three and oh what

1994
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 2: say you, Pete?

1995
01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 5: Why I'm not locking that.

1996
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 6: I can promises that, But I will say, after watching

1997
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 6: the Bengals and the Chiefs, it's not as daulting a task.

1998
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:09,799
Speaker 5: As I thought it might be before the season.

1999
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 6: The Bengals had problems on the offensive line which impacted

2000
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 6: how they played on offense, and the Chiefs had all

2001
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 6: kinds of defensive issues against the Chargers.

2002
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:25,520
Speaker 5: So is it possible? Yes? Is it probable?

2003
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 2: No?

2004
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2005
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 4: I think I mean sure, anything is possible, right, But

2006
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 4: we as football fans sometimes we get so preconceived of

2007
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 4: just the first opening game, right, like everyone's right to

2008
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 4: sell Okay, Colts are the real deal with it against

2009
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 4: the and maybe the Colts are the real deal or

2010
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 4: they're decent, but we got to keep it within perspective, right,

2011
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 4: Like you find out who your teams are when it's

2012
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 4: like week four and week five. That's when you start

2013
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 4: building the identity. Too many times people want to say, oh,

2014
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 4: week one, you see what happened there? Week one is

2015
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 4: always an anomaly. Okay, the Jaguars beat the Panthers. Yes,

2016
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 4: you were supposed to beat them. Now was it good?

2017
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 4: Someone was good? Someone was just okay. But at the

2018
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 4: end of the day, I'm not gonna sit here and say, well,

2019
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 4: they can beat the Bengals, they can beat the Chiefs

2020
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 4: simply because of one week.

2021
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 2: Well, it is overreaction Monday always, and we are grounded

2022
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 2: on this overreaction Monday. We are not going by what

2023
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 2: we do. We are uh, we're locked in. Oh yeah,

2024
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 2: you can take put that shoe right back on Austin. Okay,

2025
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 2: sorry about that. Come on, man, Sorry, that's a small room.

2026
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 2: Come on, man, says spacing here, isn't it. Yeah?

2027
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 5: Ok All I want to know is where did that

2028
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 5: come from? By the way, like, whose idea is that?

2029
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. We got to come back and talk

2030
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 2: about this though. We gotta go around the league as well.

2031
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 2: Let's take our final time out. Final moments coming up

2032
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 2: as Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. They run.

2033
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 2: This is Travis if yeah, picking his way.

2034
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 9: He's got some round twenty into the open field, thirty

2035
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 9: thirty five, forty forty five, fifty in the Panther's territory

2036
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 9: party thirty.

2037
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 2: Five along the left sideline. He's gonna a tag it

2038
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 2: at the twenty yard line.

2039
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 6: An explosive run from twenty din to the twenty yard line.

2040
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 2: Of the Carolina Panther. Frank Fanzi with the call of

2041
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 2: the game, seventy one yarder for Travis etn. Presented by

2042
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 2: Coyle Fence. Since nineteen twenty seven, we've been around the

2043
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,799
Speaker 2: block and fenced it too, and welcome into our final

2044
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 2: moments of Jaguars Happy Hour. And for twelve years, Dreamfinders

2045
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 2: Homes has been proudly called themselves the official home builder

2046
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 2: of the Jags. Visit dreamfinders homes dot com for all

2047
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 2: the available inventory. Let's go around quickly the National Football League.

2048
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 2: In Week one Thursday, Eagles over the Cowboys twenty four

2049
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:38,799
Speaker 2: to twenty. Friday in Brazil, the Chargers beat the Chiefs

2050
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty one. Bucks over the Falcons twenty

2051
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 2: three to twenty. That game was a little weird coming

2052
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:49,799
Speaker 2: down to the wire. There In Atlanta, Bengals beat the Browns.

2053
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 2: We touched on this one earlier, Pete, but this was

2054
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 2: really strange at the end. Nearly had a safety for

2055
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 2: the Browns that would have given them the lead late

2056
01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 2: in the game.

2057
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that that game was weird and ugly

2058
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 6: and not what I thought it would be. I thought

2059
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 6: the Browns would hang around, but I didn't think the

2060
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 6: Bengals would be so bad on offense.

2061
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,600
Speaker 2: And the Raiders not off to a good starting. The

2062
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 2: peak Carroll here the oldest.

2063
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 5: By the way.

2064
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 6: One quick note on the Falcons game, and I don't

2065
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 6: know if you guys saw the play late in the game.

2066
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 6: Pennick scrambled on the sideline and dove for the first down,

2067
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 6: and as he was.

2068
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 5: Diving for the first down, the ball popped out and

2069
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 5: went into the end zone and they recovered.

2070
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 6: At the bucks and they ruled he was down because

2071
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 6: he gave himself up.

2072
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 5: Did you see that play?

2073
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 2: No, I haven't seen this one. There.

2074
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 6: He didn't give himself up for the first down. That's

2075
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 6: given yourself up.

2076
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 2: That's wild. I guess, like if you dive head first,

2077
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 2: it's where the dive begins technically.

2078
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 5: Right, But if you slide and you can give your

2079
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 5: or you go down, you're giving yourself up.

2080
01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 6: Like you can see see a receiver catch a ball

2081
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 6: and go down and he's giving himself up. We know that,

2082
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 6: but if you look at the play they called Panix

2083
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 6: giving himself up, which was just a If.

2084
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 5: That's that, we know what the rule is. If that,

2085
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 5: if that's part of the rule, it's a horrible rule.

2086
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 4: I don't defenders like I mean back even when I

2087
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 4: played like it was a thing. But nowadays you saw

2088
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes and that game law shoulder and embarrassed that

2089
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 4: that defender. I think it was at cornerback, Like what

2090
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 4: what constitutes giving yourself up? What constitutes running towards out

2091
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 4: of bounds? What constitutes you lowering a shoulder? Like, man,

2092
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 4: I'm just hitting them and and and and I'll let

2093
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:39,640
Speaker 4: the paramedics sort them out. Wow, I mean, come on,

2094
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 4: what are we doing like football? Yeah, I'm not gonna

2095
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 4: let Patrick Mahomes lawyer shoulder and knock me over, of course.

2096
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 3: No way.

2097
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 4: Man, I have a child that goes to school. I'm

2098
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 4: not I'm trying to try to get him bullied in

2099
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 4: school with that.

2100
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 5: Ha.

2101
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 2: No way, he'd never hear the end of it. Raiders

2102
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 2: over the Patriots twenty to thirteen. Cardinals beat the Saints.

2103
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 2: Saints had some sweet uniforms, but they lost the game

2104
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 2: the Steelers and Jets thirty four to thirty two. And

2105
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 2: this was another whild when a sixty yard field goal

2106
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 2: at the end to win it for the Steelers and

2107
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,799
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers gets his revenge against the Jets.

2108
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 5: Well touchdown passes. It look pretty good, Rogers.

2109
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 4: And still remains polarizing with his soundbites after the game.

2110
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:20,839
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you guys heard those.

2111
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 5: But I love them. I love them.

2112
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 4: That guy finds ready to be relevant right there. Let

2113
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 4: me tell you he loves the saltiness.

2114
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 2: He loves it just in general. Saltiness. Nonchalant saltiness is

2115
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,799
Speaker 2: what he brings the table. Yeah, perfect, right up, Pete Salley.

2116
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:38,959
Speaker 2: Commanders over the Giants twenty one to six. The Niners

2117
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 2: beat the Seahawks seventeen thirteen. Packers over the Lions twenty

2118
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 2: seven to thirty.

2119
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:46,719
Speaker 5: Defense is good, and it was good before Bikeah Parsons

2120
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 5: went there. Now it's really good.

2121
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 2: You see him chase down the quarterback, get that sack

2122
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 2: on the sideline.

2123
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:53,600
Speaker 6: You know what a lot of young players on that

2124
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 6: defense are growing up.

2125
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 5: Edrin Cooper is going to be a All Pro this year.

2126
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:01,719
Speaker 5: Lucas Fands had a really good summer and a good game, Wyatt,

2127
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 5: good game. I mean they're growing up.

2128
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 4: Pete are the Detroit Lions because they're one of my

2129
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,640
Speaker 4: favorite sectually go to the Super Bowl? Are they in

2130
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 4: trouble just because that offense was non existing for a

2131
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 4: lot of that game.

2132
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 3: I get just one game.

2133
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 6: But but you know there are red flags though, because

2134
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 6: remember Ragnow retired, so Glasgow played center one great. The

2135
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 6: two two new guards weren't great, and so I think,

2136
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 6: you know they want to run the ball, and if

2137
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 6: you know you're not going on the interior the offensive line,

2138
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 6: you're not going to.

2139
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 5: Run the ball.

2140
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 2: And then finally last night, I audibly gashed on my

2141
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 2: couch when Derrek Henry fumbled the football and the Ravens collapsed.

2142
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 2: The Bills won at forty one to forty unbelievable game.

2143
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 5: That's a really telling game in a couple of ways.

2144
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 6: The Ravens stoke, but Josh Allen was fam I think

2145
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 6: he threw for two undred and sixty yards or something

2146
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter.

2147
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:53,520
Speaker 2: Yes, it's amazing.

2148
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 5: I mean, the guy. Can you make a case now

2149
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 5: that he's the best quarterback in the league.

2150
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 2: It's hard to argue when you have that kind of performance.

2151
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 4: I think when you talk about best quarterbacks in the league,

2152
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 4: you talk about the ability to elevate the guys around you.

2153
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 4: And if you look at his wide receiving weapons, like

2154
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 4: they're not a bunch of household names. There are a

2155
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 4: bunch of guys that could either draft or you brought

2156
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 4: from other teams, and he finds a way to elevate him. So, yeah,

2157
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 4: I think Josh Allen's in the conversation.

2158
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 6: And he doesn't get to turn and handed off to

2159
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 6: Dereck Henry. Yeah, I mean that's a big difference, and

2160
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 6: Lamar's part of that because he.

2161
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 5: Can run so well that he opens it up for

2162
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 5: Derek Henry.

2163
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 2: And finally, one more game.

2164
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:33,839
Speaker 3: It's Monday Night football.

2165
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 2: We had to Soldier Field, Chicago, where the field is awful.

2166
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 2: After a series of concerts, it's a battle in the

2167
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 2: NFC North. After missing his rookie season with a knee injury,

2168
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy makes his debut as quarterback for the stacked

2169
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings. A say visit quarterback Caleb Williams and the

2170
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears as the Ben Johnson Arab begins who you

2171
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 2: Got in the Windy City Austin go.

2172
01:36:58,200 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 3: And give me Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: I think any quarterback back there and they're gonna find

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Speaker 4: success in that Kevin O'Connell offense. I'm not sold yet.

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Speaker 4: I'm Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 4: I have seen Kirk Cousins come in and compete for

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Speaker 4: you know, legit time. I saw last year Sam Darnold

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Speaker 4: came out of nowhere and was legit. Why wouldn't J. J

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Speaker 4: McCarthy be any different. So I'm gonna say Vikings.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the Bears.

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Speaker 6: Ben Johnson faces Brian Flores and it's different offense, but

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Speaker 6: he faced them twice last year averaged eight point eight

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Speaker 6: for pass play against eight point eight.

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Speaker 5: That's a big number against a good defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 6: I think with the weapons that Kayleb Williams has, we'll

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Speaker 6: get the ball out of his hands.

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Speaker 5: I think they find a way to win.

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Speaker 6: And there's a big difference between Kayleb Williams playing last

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Speaker 6: year and JJ McCarthy making your first start in the.

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Speaker 5: NFL on a Monday night on the road. That's hard

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Speaker 5: to do. I'll take the Bears most importantly.

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Speaker 2: Would you grade the read therapy?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know Ce minus you weren't even have the

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Speaker 6: music bringing and you just didn't bring it.

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Speaker 5: Well. It was a little low ba.

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Speaker 2: The read was fantastic.

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Speaker 5: You gotta jump the music a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I think you got a little because the NFL films

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Speaker 2: Pete Austin next week thanks to our crew. I'm J P. Shadwick.

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Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.