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You go into her a new town home 17 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: or brand new town home she shares with her one 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: year old child, Kelley, and everything is perfectly in order. 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: In fact, cinnamon rolls are cooling on the counter beside 20 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: the stove. Everything is in its place except mom. Kelsey 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: beareth right now. Cops, of course, have zeroed in on 22 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: the so called killer fiance, Patrick Frazy at this hour 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: an update. I Meancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank 24 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: you for being with us. Our officials set to search 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: for missing mom Kelsey Beareth at a Colorado land phil 26 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: a dump joining me right now. Crime online dot COM's 27 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: investigative reporter Ellen Kilaurin. You can go to crime Online 28 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: for this and all other breaking crime injustice news. Ellen, 29 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: what's happening with the dump, Dancy. There's been a major 30 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: development in the case and a big shift and where 31 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: we thought investigators were looking. It's been confirmed that authorities 32 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: are expected to be searching a landfill in Fountain, Colorado, 33 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: which is about forty miles south of Woodland Park, where 34 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: Kelsey Beareth lived and where she was last seen. We 35 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: don't know when the search will begin, but waste management 36 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: officials have confirmed local reporters that investigators have contact them 37 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: about this, and they have confirmed that the search is 38 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: related to the murder investigation of Kelsey Beareth. Now, according 39 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: to people at the Midway landfill in Colorado, the CBI 40 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: said to look at the landfield to find remains of 41 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: Kelsey Beareth. A Waste Management spokesperson confirming officials plan to 42 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: search the area. As Ek just told us about forty 43 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: miles southeast of Barra's home, right out to Joseph Scott, 44 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: Morgan forensics expert, author of Blood Beneath My Feet on 45 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: Amazon and professor Forensics Jacksonville State University Joe Scott, Searching 46 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: a landfill is very difficult, explain hellish nightmare, Nancy. I've 47 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: done it several times. The problem is is that everything 48 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: literally looks the same. It's vast. Most people do not 49 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: understand how much garbage we generate as a society, and 50 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: it has to go somewhere. These places are vast, many 51 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: times that are disordered and disorganized, depended upon the jurisdiction. 52 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: Lots of times they'll have these things kind of gritted off. 53 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: They'll say, we dumped here on this particular day. We 54 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: dumped here on this particular day, and then they'll try 55 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: to match that grit up with a truck that came 56 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: from a specific area. The trick is, do the cops 57 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: know what they're looking for relative to points of origin 58 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: and then places placing the refuse in the dump well. 59 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: Of course, to Daniel Horror was joining us renown, California 60 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: defense attorney, they have to do a grid search for 61 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: the reasons Joe Scott was just telling us because it 62 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: all looks alike. They're tons and tons of trash and debris, 63 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: of human waste, of all sorts of biological I mean, 64 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: it could be where you cut yourself with a razor 65 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: and dabbed a tissue to it and threw it away 66 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: a week ago, and these scent dogs are gonna hit 67 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: on that. It could be anything. It could be from 68 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 1: where you took the fat of the skin off chicken 69 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: in the kitchen sink and you threw that away. I mean, 70 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: it could be anything, and it's a huge it's a 71 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: monumental task, Daniel. Well, you know it's a monumental task. 72 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: But look, I'm looking right now at crime online dot 73 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: Com and looking at your face all right on your 74 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace. What is your head saying 75 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: this story? Killer fiance wants custody for todd, girl of 76 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: fiance he killed. That's your headline. So this search, I 77 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: use quote, I use quotes, and that's according to the cops. Okay, them, 78 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: not me. Their word's not mine. Go ahead. Well, they 79 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: have nothing in this dump, as you know, it's just 80 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of garbage. They arrested this guy with no 81 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: evidence as far as we can tell. And now we're 82 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: making like this search of the dumps a big thing. 83 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: If I was his attorney, I'd say, go to trial 84 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: now you've got nothing before all this innuendo builds up 85 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: like on this crime online dot Com website, which I'm 86 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: blaming you for. Go right ahead, because Jackie Howard and 87 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: I are laughing in the studio, silently, silently, silent. We're 88 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: laughing on the inside. We're laughing on the inside because 89 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: it's not just me and crime online dot Com. It's 90 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: the police, it's search warrants. It is so called killer fiance. 91 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: Patrick phrases other girl friend that he met at the road, 92 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: the divorced mom of two the in Twin Falls, Idaho, Okay. She, 93 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: according to reports, was solicited by him on not one 94 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: but two occasions to kill his fiancee Kelsey Barrett. What 95 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: do you think I'm in a conspiracy with Urdaneta by 96 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: those lawyers in Idaho. Cut his mind. It's hurting my ear, 97 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: it's making my tooth hurt. Back to you, Ellen Klaurence, 98 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: just tell me the news. I'm gonna just mute Daniel 99 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: Harrows for just one brief shining moment hit me, when 100 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: is the search going to start? We don't know yet 101 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: when the search is going to start. Um, we're watching 102 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: that very closely. We had to imagine that it's probably 103 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: going to be soon. I can't imagine the investigators want 104 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: to wait any longer. It spend two months for the 105 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: stealthy Barrett in the thing. We're looking at an arrow 106 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: of the landfill right now, a Midway landfill, and if 107 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: anything is found there, it opens up a whole cornucopia 108 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: of evidence crime stories. With Nancy Grace, it just rips 109 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: your heart out. I'm having a hard time. I just 110 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: every day gets harder. A mother's heart is breaking. I'm 111 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: scared I'll never see her again. A lot. Shirley Wade 112 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: living with her thirty eight year old daughter, Emily Wade 113 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: and Ennis an hour south of Dallas. When her daughter disappeared. Emily, 114 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: a waitress at Chili's, reportedly went to a coworkers for 115 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: pizza in a movie. She hasn't been seen since. Emily 116 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: was last seen wearing a peach colored sweater. Police say 117 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: she was driving a silver twenty twelve Nissan Altima with 118 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: Kentucky plates. If anybody has seen Emily seen that Nissan anywhere. Please, 119 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: we're asking you to contact the department. You are hearing 120 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: our friends at NBC News Carrie Anders with the very 121 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: latest on the missing missing mom Emily Wade. The thirty 122 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 1: seven year old mom has now been gone over ten 123 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: days after she meets friends for dinner. Her mom says 124 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: she's quote scared to death. Nothing like this has ever happened. 125 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Where is Emily? I mean, see Grace. This is crime Stories. 126 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us with me. California defense 127 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: attorney Daniel Horowitz, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, 128 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: Jacksonville State University, an author of Blood Beneath My Feet 129 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: on Amazon. Doctor Brian Russell, psychologist, lawyer, joining me right now. 130 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter John Lemley. John, First 131 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: of all, I want to hear who is Emily Wade. 132 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: Then we'll get to the last known siding. Who is she? 133 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: Emily Wade is a young mom who lives in an 134 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: apartment with her seven year old daughter and her mom 135 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: in Ennis, Texas. This is about thirty five miles south 136 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: of Dallas. On Saturday, January fifth, the first Saturday of 137 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: the year, Emily asks her mom if she could borrow 138 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: her car to go to a male co worker's house. 139 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: They wanted to eat pizza and watch a movie, and 140 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: she wanted to make an early evening of it. The 141 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: last time her family saw her was late afternoon that Saturday, 142 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: as Emily left her friend's house. Apparently she stayed there 143 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: for a few hours, long enough to eat pizza and 144 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: watch a movie, and according to the co worker, she 145 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: left his house, presumably to go home at eight thirty pm. Now, 146 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: Emily's mom said she began to worry when Emily was 147 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: still not home by ten pm. Then when Emily didn't 148 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: whoa whoa wait wait wait with me, John Limily Crime 149 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter. We're talking about a Texas mom. 150 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: Thirty seven year old Emily Waite has been of her 151 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: ten days that she went missing. Okay, are you telling me? 152 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Did she live with her mom? Look? Not judging, My 153 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: mom lives with me. I'm fine with that. What I'm 154 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: asking is did she live in the under the same 155 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: roof with her mother, right in the same apartment They 156 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: took care of the seven year old together. Okay, all right, 157 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: See that is significant to me and I'll tell you why. 158 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: To Daniel Horrowitz, renowned California defense attorney, it's one thing 159 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: when the mom or the family quote doesn't hear from them, 160 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: right like you don't get the good night text or 161 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: the phone call, because that can always be explained away. 162 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: Oh she got busy working or preparing the lunch to 163 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: pack for the child the next day and fell asleep. 164 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: But when you're under the same roof, you know, well, 165 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:56,479 Speaker 1: your daughter doesn't come home Daniel's that's much more concrete 166 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: when we're trying to establish that timeline. Daniel Horrowitz, Well, 167 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: that's right. I mean ten thirty is not very late 168 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: in the evening. Wait wait a minute, wait a minute, 169 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait wait, back it up, my friend, 170 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: Daniel Horowitz. I don't know what planet you're living on, 171 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: but I have to get up between four thirty and 172 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: five to get everything done, to shoot out of the 173 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: house like a cannon a little after seven to get 174 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: the children to school. I mean, you have a child, right, 175 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: don't you have a beautiful baby? Well, yes, but I 176 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: don't work at Chili's as as a wait wait a minute, 177 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: wait a Minutewitz, Hold on, who's getting up and getting 178 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: everything ready for the baby. I guess that's all on 179 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: your wife. So because ten thirty to me, I'm dragging 180 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: by ten thirty, I am no longer at nine owl. Well, 181 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: I would like to find out what time she normally 182 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: got up. Maybe the mother did the morning work with 183 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: the child and got a child off. You have to 184 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: find that out. You got me on that, But would 185 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: you at least agree that she is in the best 186 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: position to know what time Emily should be coming home 187 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: as is her normal routine. And why this is so 188 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: far out that she didn't show up. Well, that's the 189 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: big question, isn't it. What time was she expect at all? 190 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: Why do you answer every question with a question? You 191 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: know what? Forget it. I know where you're head are. 192 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: You're trying to protect some defendant in the future. We 193 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: don't even know who it is yet, John Linley back 194 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: to her not showing up at ten thirty. I'm getting 195 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: nothing out of horror. It's go ahead. Actually, her b 196 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: home time was nine pm, and so by ten PM, 197 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: Emily's mom began to worry because Emily was still not home. 198 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: Then this takes it to a whole new level. When 199 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: Emily didn't show up for her eleven AM shift at Chili's, 200 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: the restaurant they're in Ennis where she works. Everyone knew 201 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: that something was really wrong right there. Let me bring 202 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: in doctor Brian Russell's psychologist law while you're host of 203 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: hit series on ID Fatal Vows. That's a whole other 204 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: level of problems for me. And I'll tell you why. 205 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: Because every nut and as a brother, I mean, who 206 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: hasn't gone to Chili's. I love chilies, The children love it, 207 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: and I love it because, if I'm correct, they have 208 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: broccoli as one of the children's choices, and I don't 209 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: let them have their chicken fingers or whatever it is 210 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: they want until they eat their green thing. Brian Russell, 211 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: everybody's at Chili's. I mean, maybe not Daniel Harrowitz, you know, 212 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: since he stays up late he goes out for fine dining. 213 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: But Brian, who, I mean, every nut in town could 214 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: have seen her at Chili's. So, if I understand you correctly, 215 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: you're suggesting it, and I think you're correct. It is 216 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: an occupational hazard of working in the restaurant industry that 217 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: you do come across a wide swath of the public. 218 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I think It's very important for people, 219 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: especially when they leave those establishments after working night shifts, 220 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: to have somebody make sure they watch them to their 221 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: car and make sure that they get out of there 222 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: without anybody hung around waiting for them. Doctor Brian, you 223 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: said that so eloquently, so beautifully, But I really think 224 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: it boils back down to my one word. Nuts. Every 225 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: nut and his brother trump through Chili's, you know, and 226 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm right there with them. The children love it. But 227 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: what you're saying, he's absolutely correct, John Limley. So she 228 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: didn't come home that night, and she didn't show up 229 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: to Chilis for her. You know what, She's really cute, 230 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: She's really cute. This is a cute young mom. I 231 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: need to find out about who is the dad of 232 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: this child, but what I understand is the little girl 233 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: their daughters dad, Jared Jones, has been leading the search 234 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: for Emily and voluntarily spoke to police. But but listen 235 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: to this. We're looking for a white female, blonde hair. 236 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: She's five foot six, roughly one hundred and forty pounds. 237 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: Her name is Emily Wade. Emily was last seen Saturday 238 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: around five pm, leaving her home on Yorkstown. She was 239 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: driving southbound on Clay last that we know about, she 240 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: was driving her two thousand and twelve Nissan Ford or Altima. 241 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: There's a couple of distinctive marks on this vehicle. One 242 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: is the license plates for Kentucky license plate and two 243 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: there's a split buffer on the front of the vehicle. 244 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: Emily was last seen wearing a peach colored sweater, blue jeans, 245 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: and peach colored Nike Tennis shoes. We're hearing that from 246 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: Enis Police Department. That's a Facebook video they put out 247 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: their Charlie desperate way to find a thirty seven year 248 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: old mom, Emily Wade. She didn't come home the night 249 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: she was supposed to, and she didn't show up for 250 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: a shift at Chilies. You know, I've heard very very 251 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: little about this case. To Joe Scott Morgan, forensics expert 252 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, Joe Scott, 253 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean to me, Chilies is a perfect place to 254 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: start the investigation at least be a critical piece of 255 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: the puzzle. Yeah, because you can. One of the great 256 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: things about it is you've got a lot of eyes 257 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: on there. And not to mention CCTV, you know, it's 258 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: one thing for a person to disappear, How do you 259 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: make a car disappear? They have to find this car, 260 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: Nancy and I think that when they find this car, 261 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: that's going to be a major lead in this case. 262 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: It's very difficult to hide something like this, and it's 263 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: got these distinctive marks that they're talking about. First off 264 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: Kentucky plates, it's going to stand out in Texas, and 265 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: then these markings on the bumper. So that's going to 266 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: be critical in this case. Take listen to our friend 267 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: at NBC. This is Carry Sanders. It has now been 268 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: ten days since anybody has seen Emily Wade. Her mother 269 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: and her ex boyfriend, who is the father of their 270 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: seven year old daughters, say it is unlike her to 271 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: have just gotten up and disappeared and walked away, which 272 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: is why they now fear foul play. Police say there 273 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: has been no pings or use of Emily's cell phone, 274 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: neither has her credit card or ATM been used. They've 275 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: actually searched all of the waterways in and around this area. 276 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: Perhaps she drove in, they thought, but they've found nothing, 277 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: which is why the police have not ruled out foul play. 278 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: Emily and her ex boyfriend, Jared Jones share custody of 279 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: a seven year old daughter. Both Emily's mother and Jared 280 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: questioned by police. In situations like this, detectives always look 281 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: first at the family. Yes they did it, and understand 282 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: that anything going on that is not obvious here with 283 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: me or with Jared. I would be really surprised if 284 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: Jared had anything that he loved Emily. He loves Emily. 285 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: They just didn't mess together, you know, but they loved 286 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: their daughter equally, and he wouldn't. I don't think Jared 287 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: would ever hurt the mother of his child. Well, that's 288 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: been said so many times in the Scott Peterson case 289 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: and the Chris Watts case. At first the family always 290 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: thinks they spouse had nothing to do with it. Would 291 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: never ever ever. That was Carry Sanders, our friend at 292 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: NBC News, and you're hearing Surely Wade. That's Emily Wade's mom. Guys, 293 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: for those of you just joining us, a thirty seven 294 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: year old mom, a beautiful young mom. As a matter 295 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: of fact, Emily Wade has disappeared. This Texas mom has 296 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: now been gone ten days. She goes to dinner, never 297 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: seen again, she didn't come home. She shares an apartment 298 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: with her mom and together they take care of the 299 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: little girl. I want to go out to John Limley, 300 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, John, there are reasons 301 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: that cops always start with the husband, the spouse, the X, 302 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: the boyfriend. Why that is the love connection, if there 303 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: is such a phrase for it. It's that relationship that 304 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: is closer than all others and can also lead to 305 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: some violence in certain relationships. And authorities have said they 306 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: have not determined if there is any foul play. However, 307 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: it has not been ruled out. Police tell us that 308 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: Wade's ex boyfriend, Jared Jones, has been questioned, same with 309 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: that male coworker that she went to visit that night. 310 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: John Limley, you told me that he spoke voluntarily to police. 311 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: To Daniel Harrowitz, California defense attorney, renowned attorney, Daniel, you 312 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: have defended a lot of homicides, and I'm sure you 313 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: would have told this guy, don't talk to police, even 314 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 1: if you didn't do it. You're the main suspect. But 315 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: he did not only did he speak to police, he 316 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: led a lot of the searches. You know, Daniel Harrowitz, 317 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Remember when you and I covered um Lacy Peterson's murder, 318 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: her disappearance, her murder, the murder offer unborn child Connor, 319 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: and then the trial. You're right there with me, remember 320 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: at the courthouse every single day, and you would join 321 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 1: me in the ring. Yes, yes, oh, the good the 322 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: good times, the good times. But in that case, you know, 323 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: Scott Peterson was not front and center looking for Lacy. 324 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: Not only that, you know it's like a crowbarring his 325 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: teeth apart to get him to speak. And then when 326 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: he did speak we found out why it was disastrous. 327 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: He was like a snake oil salesman. This guy, on 328 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: the other hand, yeah, I compared him to a bad 329 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: actor in a high school theater performance. It was it 330 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: was painful. Was it was chalk on a board, screeching 331 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: nails on a board. But this guy has been out 332 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: there actually beating the bushes trying to find her. And 333 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: to me, that's what I mean. Yes, we've seen murderers 334 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: go on the search and then there's the shot like 335 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: how could they be so two faces to go on 336 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: the search, act like they're trying to find the victim. 337 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: But it really goes a long way with me when 338 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: you see the I guess love interest out there front 339 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: and center way in Daniel. Well, first of all, I 340 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about the Peterson case. You know, there 341 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: were three prosecutors in the core room and a fourth 342 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: one outside talking about the case. That was you and 343 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: anytime you would talk about something the next day they 344 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: do it in the courtroom. I remember that that. That's right, 345 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: it did happen. I forgot about that. I still claim 346 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: that you won the case for him, but thank you 347 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: for that. But in this case, the guy, the guy 348 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: has a cell phone. There's something we didn't have in 349 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: the Peterson case. You know, if you've got Uber on 350 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: your cell phone, they're tracking you, um, you know, twenty 351 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: four hours a day if they want, you probably have 352 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: that that boyfriend or ex boyfriend's cell phone. They know 353 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: where he was at the time that she disappeared, from 354 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: the time she left the house until you know, she 355 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: didn't show up at home, so it's pretty easy to 356 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: clear him in terms of being physically there or not there. 357 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: You know where she was. They could probably get her 358 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: phone data as well. That's to me a key and 359 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: a missing person case. You know what, that's a really 360 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: good point because to just Scott Morgan, forensics expert author 361 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: of Blood But My Feet Joseph Scott Morgan in the 362 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: Kelsey Barrett disappearance, the Colorado mom that we're hot on 363 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: the trail trying to locate her remains right now, very important, 364 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: very critical. We know cops have said he never left 365 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: the state of Colorado yet her Kelsey Barrett, the mother 366 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: of his one year old child, Kelly cell phone ping 367 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: eight hundred miles away near good in Idaho Twin Falls, 368 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: the area where his other girlfriend lived, but he didn't 369 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: go there. How do we know that? Most likely because 370 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: of technology his cell phone, possible GPS, in his vehicle, 371 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: receipts and ATMs, you name it. He has left an 372 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: electronic footprint. Daniel's right. So I'm guessing the cops are 373 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: able to distance this dad from where Emily Wade was. 374 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 1: What you think, Joe Scott, Yeah, I mean we're walking 375 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: around with trackers in our pocket everywhere we go, right, 376 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: And so I think that with this boyfriend, this estranged 377 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: boyfriend who shares custody of this daughter, I think that 378 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: that they have been able to clear him to a 379 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: certain degree. And also they're going to be looking at 380 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: his behaviors. Scotsman, Fully it would seem at least me 381 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: fully engaged. He gives interviews, he talks freely. He's out 382 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: there on the front lines trying to help find this 383 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: poor missing woman. So yeah, that's my thought, at least 384 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: in this particular case. Because look, as far as I'm concerned, 385 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: and we've covered a ton of these cases, I always 386 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: look at those in the intimate circle. First. You have 387 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: to clear these individuals. Guys, we are talking about a 388 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: missing mom. Won't you help us find her? Nine seven 389 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: two eight seven five four six two nine seven two 390 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: eight seven five four four six two Listen to our 391 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: friends at NSPD. Emily has a young daughter and a 392 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: mother that she lives without here in Yorkshtown. The family 393 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: is very worried, very concerned. We need your help. If 394 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: anybody has seen Emily seen that Nissan anywhere, please we're 395 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: asking you to contact the department. The detective that's working 396 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: as a detective, Roddey Rickman, please reach out to him. 397 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: We're working several leads now, but we need more. While 398 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: we're any and all leads, we need your help, folks, 399 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: help us find Emily for her family. 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Jared says he's cooperating with police and understands 417 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: why detectives have asked him hard questions as if he 418 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: had something to do with Emily's disappearance, because it's all 419 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: part of the investigation. You have nothing to hide, absolutely not. 420 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: You're not responsible, absolutely not. Since she went missing, Jared 421 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: says he's been out searching back roads looking for any 422 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: clue of Emily. It's been Gunrenchie, their young daughter, fully 423 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: aware something's not right that here, you're going to find mommy? 424 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: Can I tell her? Yes, we're going to find her. 425 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that's our friend. Harry Sanders, NBC speaking 426 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: to Jared the husband. I'm just thinking about that little girl. 427 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: John Limley, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. How old 428 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: is their daughter? She is seven years old, and Jared 429 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: has told us that every day, every night, when she's 430 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: saying her prayers, she'll look at her dad and ask her, 431 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: is mommy coming home? Are you going to find her? 432 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: And he will very boldly say yes. And then, of course, 433 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: being a seven year old, she follows that up with when, 434 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: and that's what really crushes him. Daniel Harrowitz, I want 435 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: to go to all three of you guys. First of all, 436 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: to you, Daniel, you haven't seen John, David and Lucy 437 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: in the flesh anyway and a couple of years, although 438 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: you see their pictures routinely. The other day what where 439 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: was Okay, I had to fly to New York and 440 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: to tape an Oz, doctor Oz, and I called home, facebooked, 441 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: and Lucy went in the bathroom, shut the door and 442 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: she said, come, I know my husband and my mom. 443 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure we're taking perfectly fine care of her. But 444 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, there's just no replacement for the mom. I'm 445 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: just putting it out there, Daniel, how old is your babe? 446 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: I got a seven and nine year old, really own 447 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: eight and ten. But yeah, gosh, the mom is the 448 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: first team and everybody else's back up in the family. 449 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: That's the truth. So John Limley speaking of the child, 450 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: speaking of the potential that the data is involved, which 451 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: in this case, police are saying he is not a suspect. 452 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: Why can you tell me about cell phone data? Right now? 453 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: Police are telling us that Emily's cell phone has been 454 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: turned off, which also means the battery could have died. 455 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: She has not used it since before she was last 456 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: seen that Saturday night, and according to a police as well, 457 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: she has not used her credit cards and her bank 458 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: account has not been touched. Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. 459 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: Okay to justice. Scott Morgan, forensics expert author of blood 460 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: beneath my way in Yeah, you know, Nancy. One of 461 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: the things that's really striking to me about this particular 462 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: case is the fact that, uh she when she made 463 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: these arrangements to go and watch a movie and have 464 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: pizza at a co worker's house. Um, she had a 465 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: very early night of it, didn't she. They you know, 466 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: she was gonna be home. She's got a child at home, 467 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: her mom's watching the kid. She's gonna be home early. 468 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: And so this is this is done in in complete uh, 469 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, in an obvious set of circumstances where people 470 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: can see the comings and goings. My question is, who 471 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: was she with at that apartment? I want to know 472 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: who she's engaged with. I want to know more about 473 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: this coworker. Guys, we're talking about a missing mom. Emily 474 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: Wade to doctor Brian Russell, psychologist, lawyer, host of Id's 475 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: Fatal Vows, Doctor Bryan what now, Now, here's a wrinkle. 476 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: We know that Emily Wade and her mom picked up 477 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: and moved about a month ago to this area in 478 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: his Texas to actually be closer to the baby's bio. Dad. Well, 479 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: I think that's significant, Nancy, because when we look at 480 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: cases like Kelsey Barrett allegedly, when we look at cases 481 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: like the horrific Colorado case we've talked about recently where 482 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: the guy killed the entire you know, the wife and 483 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: the kids, Watts, We've seen people commit murder to get 484 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: custody of children. We've seen people commit murder to avoid 485 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: having to have custody of children so they could get 486 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: on with their lives with other people. None of that 487 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: looks like it's in play here. It looks like the 488 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: relationship between the child's two parents was actually pretty good. 489 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: Doesn't look like there was any animosity about the end 490 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: of the relationship or any real disagreement about custodial division. 491 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: In fact, as you said, it looked like they were 492 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: actually trying to share custody better between the two of them. 493 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: And so I agree with Joe Scott. I think in 494 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: this case we have to expand the circle outward a 495 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: little bit now from the intimate partner or immediate past 496 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: intimate partner too. Okay, who else was in the close 497 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: circle around this young woman? And it does interest me 498 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 1: greatly who she was planning to spend this evening with. 499 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: Did she make it there, and what does that person 500 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: have to say about the evening. Let's talk about that, 501 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: John Looley, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, where does 502 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: she go that evening? Because we've been focusing a lot 503 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: on the bio dad of the child, he has cooperated, 504 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: he has joined into the search. What can you tell 505 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,719 Speaker 1: me about that evening? Where was she? It seems so innocent. 506 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: Pizza with coworkers exactly, and that it sounds like a 507 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: plan was hatch earlier that afternoon. It's quite possible that 508 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: she worked that afternoon and maybe while they were wrapping 509 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 1: up their shift together, she and that male co worker 510 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: decided to meet at his place for a movie and pizza, which, 511 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: from what we can tell is the co worker's house 512 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: is just virtually around the corner from the apartment that 513 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: Emily shares with her mom. And as he has told police, 514 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: eight thirty is when he saw her tail lights pull 515 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: away from his place, and that was the last he 516 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: saw her house. He's so sure that it was eight thirty. Well, 517 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: that is a good question that the exact statement is 518 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: the one that he gave to police. And of course, 519 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: since this is an active investigation, police are keeping the 520 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: identity of the male coworker close to the vest and 521 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: not releasing more in nation about this. I had at 522 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: bass Ackwards John Lumley. I thought she went out to 523 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: pizza with a group of co workers. Is that not correct? No, 524 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: she was just at the home of this one male 525 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: co worker. Okay, now that's shifting things in my mind. 526 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: Thirty seven year old mom expected back home before nine pm. 527 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: She never showed up. She left her apartment around five 528 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: to go to a friend's house, the co worker, to 529 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: have pizza. Immediately, her family starts looking for her. In 530 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: contacted the Ennis, Texas Police. Now this is what we 531 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: are learning. The husband, the x, the father of the daughter, says, quote, 532 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: she would not just go away. She wanted to be here, 533 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: was happy to be here. Now that's a far cry. 534 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: Daniel Harrowitz, California defense attorney from somebody like Drew Peterson, 535 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: who the moment Stacy Peterson goes missing, says a she 536 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: has a boyfriend. She probably left the house on foot. 537 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: Right then he tried to give away all of her 538 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: bathing suits and furs and clothes within a couple of 539 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: days after she quote goes missing. This guy is saying this. Jared, 540 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: the husband is saying no, no, No, this isn't right. 541 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: She would never do this. Do you see the difference, Daniel, Yeah, 542 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm afraid I'm starting to agree with you. I don't 543 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: like this, but I'm looking at this guy she watched 544 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: this movie with because I'm a suspicious person. I don't 545 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: think that men and women who are single at that 546 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: age just go to eat pizza and watch movies. I 547 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: don't think that's what it's about. It's a date. It's 548 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: a intimate or not intimate, and that's maybe where they 549 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: get into an argument, in a fight and he loses 550 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: it and something bad happens. He kills her eight thirties 551 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: pretty early for her to be leaving if she's around 552 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: the corner and is having a good time. And on 553 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: top of that, he sees her leaving at a precise time, 554 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: sees her tail lights on, so she's in her car. 555 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: I don't believe that she's in her car with the 556 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: klights on, just going around the corner almost to go home. 557 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: That foul play happened between that moment and going home. 558 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: It happened before. I'm focusing in on that guy in 559 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: that house, very very carefully. At this point, the thirty 560 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: eight year old moved to Texas a couple of years 561 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 1: ago from Cynthiana, however, came back to Kentucky several months 562 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: ago to help her mother recover from surgery. Once she 563 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: was better, they both moved back down to Texas just 564 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: three weeks ago. They made that move to be with 565 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: Emily's seven year old daughter. Will be in namily department 566 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: and somebody will come over or knocked on a villar. 567 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: She said that, Mommy, you know and imagine what you're 568 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: going through. My mom's having a real time, was their thoughts. Though, 569 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: I ain't your daughters missing and she down here with 570 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: only family, or she got a me right now down here. 571 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: Emily's brother Chad, who still lives here in Kentucky, is 572 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: now down in Texas helping with search efforts. Santa read 573 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: thereby nothing has really panned out. That is our friend 574 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: at wk YT TV, Hillary Thornton, talking to Emily's brother Chad, 575 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: who is now gone to Ennis, Texas to try to 576 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: find his sister. This is more of what we know 577 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: for those of you just joining us. Missing thirty seven 578 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: year old mom Emily Wade goes to our friends, a 579 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: co workers home for pizza. Never seen again, he swears 580 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 1: he saw her drive away around eight thirty, which would 581 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: have been about the time she would have gone home, 582 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: So that is consistent with her timeline. Sees her tail 583 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: whites leaving in the distance. She's never seen again. Her 584 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: car also has not been found. Authorities say they have 585 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: not determined if there's foul play in Emily's disappearance. Hello, 586 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: there's foul play. Police are saying that the ex Jared Jones, 587 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: has been questioned and they do not consider him a suspect. 588 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: Now there's a mail co worker at whose home Wade 589 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: went to just before she disappeared. Now we are learning 590 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: from police sources that this guy, the coworker, has been cooperating, 591 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: that he is sat down for several interviews, even allowing 592 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: investigators to search his car and his home. But the 593 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: bottom line, Doctor Bryan Russell, they could get a warrant 594 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: if they wanted to, whether he gives permission or not. 595 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: But I think it speaks to his benefit that he 596 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: did give permission. Certainly, I think when these people acknowledge, 597 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: they understand why anybody who's investigating this would start with them, 598 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: and they open up that they're an open book, and 599 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: they say things like, look, rule me out. Look at 600 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: whatever you want to look at, because every minute you 601 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: spend on me is a minute you're not after there. 602 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: If there's a foul play involved, there's a perpetrator out there. 603 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: Every minute you spend on me as a minute you're 604 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,439 Speaker 1: not after them. So rule me out. I think that 605 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 1: that you know, bones a lot better for that person 606 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: than when they clam up and lawyer up. As we 607 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 1: see so well, we also know this to John Limley, 608 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. Search teams have used 609 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: drones and they have retraced Emily's route home from the 610 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: coworker's home. They've used drones boats during the search for Emily. 611 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: They've retraced her route home from the coworkers home where 612 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: she had pizza. They've looked in low lying areas near creeks, 613 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: near bodies of water that were flooded the night she disappeared. 614 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: Oh you know, that's reminding me of jo Scott Morgan. 615 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: Do you remember Crystal Rogers I think was her last name. 616 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: She was a gorgeous young Texas mom. There were floods, 617 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: she goes missing at the same time, turned out she 618 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: was murdered. But my point is the flood and the 619 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: water rising really hindered the search for her. Remember that, 620 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: Jo Scott, Yes, I do. And it provides perfect cover 621 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: in that particular case. And it could provide cover not 622 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: just in the sense of some kind of homicidal activity, 623 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: but also if you're dealing with floodwaters that can deal 624 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: with things like cars being swept away and that sort 625 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: of thing. Deepen it upon the body of water, you know, 626 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: Daniel Harrowitz, California defense attorney, I want to ask you 627 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: this question. They'll have to follow it up with our 628 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: beloved shrink doctor Brian Russell. Daniel, listen to this. Her family, 629 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: Emily's family are searching the ex Jared Jones, and I 630 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: think there's more between them, because she just moved all 631 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: the way back to Ennis, Texas to be closer to 632 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: him with their child. I wonder if they were trying 633 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: to rekindle a relationship. But that's the whole other canter Worms. 634 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: He Jared Jones and the brother Chad Wade had been 635 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: driving around Ennis looking for her. And the reason that 636 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: gets me so distraught. Can you just imagine them in 637 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: the car and after my fiance died and Daniel, you 638 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: lost your wife in a homicide. I remember having dreams 639 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: where I would be out looking for Key and I 640 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: would be searching and searching. I guess my mind was 641 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: trying to reconcile. It couldn't reconcile that he was actually gone, 642 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: and in the dream i'd be it'd always be bad conditions, 643 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: like foggy or nighttime, and it was never like a 644 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: sunny day, and I would think I heard his voice 645 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,479 Speaker 1: or even him laughing at a distance, and I would 646 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: go to that place and there'd be nothing there. Or 647 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: I'd have an address, like let's just say the address 648 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: was one two three four, and I'd get to one 649 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: two three one one two three three, and then it 650 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: would go to one two three five and that address 651 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't be there, and I'd be going down all these 652 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: side alleys trying to find that address, and just walking 653 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: and looking and calling, this is real, Daniel. The dad, 654 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: the bio dad and the brother out driving around looking 655 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: for her. It just breaks my heart. You don't, right, 656 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: And I think that you know at some point too, 657 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: as they're driving, they're talking to each other, validating that 658 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: this is real. Because at least for me, there was 659 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: a sense that any moment I'm going to realize I 660 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: was just dreaming or imagining or lost in something, and 661 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 1: that it's not real. It didn't happen, and you want 662 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: to go back to reality, which is not the reality, 663 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: and reality you want to make a dream and you 664 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: fight to to kind of focus on what's real. So 665 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: at least when they're together, they can support each other 666 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: and focus on the task at hand. But unfortunately the 667 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: task at hand seems almost futile because they don't care 668 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: so much to catch the person. They care to find 669 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 1: her alive, and they must just be a thinking feeling 670 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: every moment that they have to deal with the fact 671 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: that they probably won't. Did that happen to you, Daniel? 672 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: Did you have dreams like that? And then when you 673 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: woke up for a moment, maybe just a moment, you 674 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 1: didn't take in that she was gone and everything's ignormal. 675 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: And then you remember I would have stuff where I 676 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: would just close my eyes. I said, please God, let me, 677 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: let let me, let let you change the world. You 678 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,919 Speaker 1: can change the world. Make me be the dead one, 679 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,919 Speaker 1: and everybody else can be beal and she can be alive. 680 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: Just do the switch. You can do it. You can 681 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 1: just change that part of the world change, and that's 682 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,280 Speaker 1: I would think things like that, crazy things, you know, Daniel, 683 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: I just love you so much. Just hearing you say 684 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: that just breaks my heart, and I really believe right now, 685 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: I don't think the X was involved at all, and 686 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: I know that's what he is probably saying. One person, 687 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: Gracie Smith, who was wade sister in law, Emily's sister 688 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: in law, said that she was writing on the Facebook 689 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: site called Bring Emily Home, and she said, I just 690 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: saw Emily's segment on GMA and cried my eyes out. 691 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,240 Speaker 1: It seems so unreal. This family is in so much paying, 692 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: this little girl in so much pain. Please help us 693 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: find Emily nine seven two eight seven five four four 694 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: six two. Nancy Gray's crime story signing off Goodbye friend