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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian, the

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Speaker 1: about your automotive problem. That's what this radio show is,

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Speaker 1: Put a doozy out there this week about Cadillac headlight

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Speaker 1: headlamp assembly. And that's just an example of what we

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Speaker 1: do on a week to week basis, just to show

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Speaker 1: you that you know, what you may know or what

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Speaker 1: You know, it was it was a safer environment under

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Speaker 1: I think in it's still basically that that that reverse

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Speaker 1: So I've got a feeling you're not gonna see reverse

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Speaker 1: he's put it into drive and now you know that's

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Speaker 1: has no um tactile touch, you know, if it's got

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Speaker 1: And if it's disconnected, you could connect you depends. If

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Speaker 1: And I always I always think about that. I see

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Speaker 1: because they just they just did um the thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably what happens you're under the hood. But I would

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Speaker 1: Can I do that? In that? In that you know,

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Speaker 1: and like them? Um? Yeah, yeah, Well I listen. I've

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Speaker 1: that you think they'll respect what you're saying, go back

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Speaker 1: trust the repair shop, but their local. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: You gotta trust the shop. You gotta think they're fair.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, pick a mechanic the way you

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Speaker 1: like anybody else. You've got to have that connection otherwise

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Speaker 1: and you're always gonna be wondering, Hey, am I really

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Speaker 1: doc is coming back right after this quart back. We'ren't

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Speaker 1: needing the card doer zero Tom Ray stopped dancing. Please,

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Speaker 1: from banger Man. Oh for Chevy Silverado thanks to and uh,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what's going on here? Yes, sir, how can

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Speaker 1: I help hi? Yes, sir, Well, it's hard to hear you. Hey. Um.

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Speaker 1: assembly on top of the control the hydraulic control assembly,

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Speaker 1: I said, now look at it next week. You're right

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Speaker 1: and my brake warning light comes on and the display

428
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: flashes up. Get brake service sooner, or something to that effect.

429
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: But in talking with this guy, a nice guy and everything,

430
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: he says, they all do that, well you know that

431
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: they do. They all do that when they're they all

432
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: do that when they're broken. But they don't do that

433
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: by design. Uh you know how long even going to

434
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: this guy as a mechanic deck, oh jeez, for for

435
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: about a year that long. But now I go further

436
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: and he came up with the final final fix is

437
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: you've got to put new hubs in it with the

438
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: with the brake lines that go up into the system,

439
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: and so for with the electronics hook ups to go up,

440
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: I gotta put new hubs in it. And the new

441
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: hubs are fifty bucks apiece. I don't mind putting the

442
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: new hubs in, but I'm looking for a second opinion. Okay,

443
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: So let's let's let's start the conversation here. The most

444
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: common fault for Chevy trucks GM vehicles of this vintage,

445
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: this era where problems with the A B S sensor

446
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: and rust inside the hubs, just like he's talking about

447
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: the wheel speed sensor inside the hubs. Okay, inside the hub, right, okay,

448
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: So so what would happen is? And let me describe it,

449
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: and you tell me if this is how you were

450
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: getting this A B S sensation. It wasn't the A

451
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: B S sensation. You were driving along at thirty five

452
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: and you'd step on the brake and the break het

453
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: all felt normal until you got going less than ten

454
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: miles an hour as you were approaching us. Okay, right,

455
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: So so this is a sensor issue, all right, Right,

456
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: it's what's happening is and it's going to be one

457
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: or the other. I rarely see it as both, all right,

458
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: I rarely see it that both failed together. I'm not

459
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: saying it's impossible, but what's happening is if we were

460
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: to look at this on a on a scope to

461
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: look at the signal that the sensors were putting out,

462
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: you know, we would see what the computer seeing, and

463
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: what the computer seeing is one of the sensors. The

464
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: signal is different from left to right or front to back.

465
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: It can be one of two ways, one of three ways,

466
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: and it thinks that because there is a different signal,

467
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: it assumes that Dick's truck is on a patch of

468
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: ice and it's one wheel it has locked up. Okay,

469
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: because that's what a BS is doing. It's trying to

470
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: prevent wheel lock up. It pulled is the brake pedal

471
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: through that mechanical control assembly by the electronic brain that

472
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: you paid to replace, and it it starts to pulse

473
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: the break in hopes of releasing the wheel and just

474
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: stopping it so that you don't continue to slide on

475
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: the ice. That's what a BS is all about, anti

476
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: lock breaks. All right. My concern becomes, how did we

477
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: go from you need this to this? And that's the

478
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: project that's got me scratching my again, can it happen? Dick?

479
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: I've been in weirder situations in my shop and I

480
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: was the attending physician, and I saw it happen and

481
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: get weird like that. So I'm not saying the guy's wrong.

482
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, there's gotta be a warm,

483
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: fuzzy feeling here of of what's going on. As long

484
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: as you feel comfortable with it, then yes, I would

485
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: concur with this diagnosis. You know, I always say this.

486
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: You know what fixing cars is like being married. It's

487
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: you never judge the relations and ship by when things

488
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: are going good. Hey, when you were on your honeymoon,

489
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: life was grand, right, you were married two weeks, ten years,

490
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: twenty years, you know, forty years whatever she was. Sometimes

491
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: sometimes you needed to do an engine overhaul, and uh,

492
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: other times it was like wow, should I trade it in? Um?

493
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: You know, but like most people, I've kind of subscribed

494
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: to the theory that, you know, cars and women are

495
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: both alike. It's cheaper to keep her um so uh.

496
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: And I can say that because she's not around this weekend. Um,

497
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: and she'll never hear this podcast, will you, honey? Whoops? So?

498
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: But uh, exactly so I'm sorry, Dick, what was the question.

499
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: We get sensors. Yeah, the sensor, right, I understand is

500
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: that the piece of wire that goes down in and

501
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: turn underneath, right, And what happens is what happens is

502
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: where that sensor is mounted. It's mounted, it's mounted to

503
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: a flange, and that that flange gets rusty. So the

504
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: way the signal gets generated. Think of a pencil eraser

505
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: and hold that pencil eraser a quarter of an inch

506
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: from your desktop, but it's actually closer. It's actually a

507
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: sixteenth of an inch. Maybe it's even closer than that.

508
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: But you've got two pencils with two erasers a sixteenth

509
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: of an inch away from your desktop. As the rust

510
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: builds up under the mounting flange, that rust causes the

511
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: sensor to lift. So the pencil on the left is

512
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: the sixteenth of an inch, but the pencil on the

513
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: right is an eighth of an inch. So the piece

514
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: that the pencil or the sensor is pointed at is

515
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: the tone ring, is the is the signal generator. So

516
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: it sees a weaker signal on the left side or

517
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: the right side than it does on the left side.

518
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: It assumes because of that change the right wheels locking

519
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: up now real quick, and then I gotta go. The

520
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: argument becomes the change one or bolt. This truck probably

521
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: has a hundred thousand miles or more on it. What

522
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: is the what does the undercarriage look like? Living up

523
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: there in Maine? Yeah, so you know what you're doing,

524
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: both and you get it over with. Yet get it

525
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: over with, all right, sir? Well, if he says it's

526
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: the front, then the front is where you gotta start.

527
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: But he's on the right path, all right. You got

528
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: any questions, you know where to find me. I thank you.

529
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. You take good care. Nine zero,

530
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm coming right back. Don't go away with the wind

531
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: and now fingers in the hand, just take it in. Hey,

532
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: welcome back. Why any of the car doctor, let's real

533
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: quick over the brook in taunting mass, I guess that

534
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: is oh five miles attribute brooke. Well into the car doctor,

535
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: how can I help hi? I said, a reading done

536
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: on my truck, and it told me that I had

537
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: a bad center. It was two bank too center one

538
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: all right, so it's the upstream O two on on

539
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: bank too, go ahead, right? I had changed it and

540
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: then it started miss firing. I looked far any kind

541
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: of vacuumly, I couldn't find any. So I had another

542
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: reading done on it, and instead it's um running lean

543
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: and now bank too, censor too is gone. Okay, so

544
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: let's back up. We've got to go back to the

545
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: point of original repair. The censor that you put in,

546
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: my first concern would be is it the right one?

547
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: Because just because it's screws in and plugs in doesn't

548
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: mean it doesn't mean it's the right one, So I

549
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: would verify the part. Also, where did you get the piece?

550
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: Just because it's new doesn't mean it's good. New means

551
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: never ever worked in my world. So I would just

552
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: want to know if you looked at this, do you

553
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: have an ability with a scan tool broke? Are you

554
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: since it sounds like you're working on this yourself, or

555
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: is this a repair ship doing it and you're taking

556
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: the information from them. I'm kind of a kind of

557
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: got the information, so I'm having someone work on it

558
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: for me. But I also tried to since I looked

559
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: it up online and said it looked for like a

560
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: vacuum weak and stuff. So I looked and I didn't

561
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: see anything, and like you said, I'm wondering if it

562
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: was the right top they gave me, because I got

563
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: that put in is one. It all sat a misfiring, right,

564
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: And so I'm going to come back to that. Do

565
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: you remember remember high school algebra? Yeah? Okay, remember when

566
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: they tried teaching us those X y axcess things with

567
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: the zero in the middle, and we said, what the

568
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: heck are we going to use this for? I did

569
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: the same thing. I said, this is the most ridiculous

570
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: thing in the world. I'll never use it. And then

571
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: I became a mechanic and I worked on cars, and

572
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: then twenty five years later, now I use it all

573
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: the time. So zero on the X y X is

574
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: a balanced fuel mixture, all right. And as as Mr Mo,

575
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: like I said, he goes and when the integers count up,

576
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: we're adding numbers. Yeah, no kidding. So when we come

577
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: off a zero and when it goes plus one plus

578
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: two plus three, we're adding fuel. That's fuel enrichment, all right.

579
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: When we're going to the left of the zero minus,

580
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: we're taking fuel away because the vehicles running too rich.

581
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: All right. If your friend has a scan tool, tell

582
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: him to go look at fuel trim, all right, think

583
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,239
Speaker 1: of that X Y access in the zero. All right,

584
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: he's he's gonna see two values, all right, and hopefully

585
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: he's using an O B D two scan tool. Simple technology.

586
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: We don't need manufacturer specific for this, all right. We

587
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: want to use a simple scan tool. Go look at

588
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: fuel trim. Bank one is you know, the cylinder with

589
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: cylinder number one is, Bank two is the others? All right,

590
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: we want to look at fuel trims. Fuel trims should

591
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: be fairly even bank to bank. If they're not, something's

592
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: driving one or the other. Leaner rich think of that

593
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: X Y axis and the zero again, okay, zero fuel

594
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: trim is what you're gonna see live now in the moment.

595
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: Long term fuel trim is what you're looking at his history.

596
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: We're not so concerned with history. That's where it's been.

597
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: We want to know where it's going. We want to

598
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: look at short term, all right, see where short term

599
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: fuel trim is. And then also go look at the

600
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: O two sensors. If since the vehicle has probably two

601
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: upstream two downstream, we can start to yeah, there's four, okay,

602
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: so we want to look at the two upstream sensors.

603
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: They should be relatively close to each other, all right,

604
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: and then we want to look at fuel trim and

605
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: see where fuel trim is and what does fuel trim

606
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: look like bank to bank, and then we can have

607
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: a bigger conversation next week. Okay, all right, we'll tell

608
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: you what before you give me that thought. Let me

609
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: pull over and take this pause or I'm gonna get

610
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: yelled at and I hate getting yelled at. Um Tom

611
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: will get upset. So stay right. We are broke, I'll

612
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: run on any of the car. Doctor will be back

613
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: right to this. Yeah, welcome back. Why don't the cart

614
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: oculet's real quick? Good over to Brooke again. Brooke, we're

615
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: still here. What was your last question? The last question

616
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: is um it was reading UM number one spark plugs

617
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: was missfiring. That's because of these. It was wrong that

618
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: they gave me no shouldn't. A misfire is a misfire.

619
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: A stutter is a stutter. The only way, the only

620
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: way that the O two could be having an effect

621
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: on misfire. That from my experience from my seat, is

622
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: that if it's really driving at that lean a lean missfire. Yes,

623
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: but there you would be looking at that X Y axis,

624
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: remember the zero thing again, and you'd be seeing fuel trim,

625
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, plus it's trying to add so much fuel.

626
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: And in that case, why only one cylinder or not

627
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: the others? That that that doesn't make any sense. So

628
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: why don't you do this? Why don't you get a

629
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: magic marker? Mark the top of the coil. This is

630
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: a coil on plug vehicle, I believe right. Mark the coil.

631
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: Swap number one coil with number three, and and and

632
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: see where's the misfire go. Does the misfire move with

633
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: the coil? Does the misfire stay with the cylinder? Move

634
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: the spark plug to a different cylinder, Then you move

635
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: the coil to start moving things around. Mark it and

636
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: write it down so you don't get confused. And see

637
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: where does the misfire go. If it stays on one,

638
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: you got a problem on one. If it's stays on two,

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Speaker 1: where the plug is, it's the plug. If it goes

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Speaker 1: to three, it's where the coil is. Simple enough, all right,

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Speaker 1: And then after you do those other things, call me

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Speaker 1: back list week and let me know what happens. You're

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Speaker 1: very welcome, take good care, and thanks for the coil.

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Speaker 1: Jason and Jacksonville, Florida. I got a minute what's going on, baby? Hey, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just get a question about the scan tools, and

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Speaker 1: I was looking at it, and there's there's so many

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Speaker 1: different ones on the market, and they're they're really expensive.

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Speaker 1: And the thing I noticed is, uh, I mean, they

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Speaker 1: looked a little computers. But the thing is, we all

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Speaker 1: carry smartphones in our pocket, which our computers. Why is

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Speaker 1: it necessary to buy the whole tool when you can't

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Speaker 1: just get an adapter or software? The The easy answer is,

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Speaker 1: if you're looking for something for verification, hey, I want

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Speaker 1: to see what the code is, or I want to

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Speaker 1: see the mechanic, the center of readings match what he's

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Speaker 1: saying verification, a smartphone will work absolutely all right. It's

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Speaker 1: a great app and there's a bunch of ways to

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Speaker 1: do it, But for diagnostic purposes, the smartphone thing is difficult,

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Speaker 1: especially if you're looking for any kind of speed, if

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Speaker 1: you're analyzing more than just a few pits. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's the basis on how I make my decision

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Speaker 1: more to go, more to talk next week, I'm run

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