1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Jordan Victorium. Thanks so much for listening 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: to the podcast and thanks for supporting the ministry. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: We believe you're going to have. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: An awesome twenty twenty four, healthy, productive, and favor filled. 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: God bless you today and enjoy the message. There was a. 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 3: Study done at Stanford University that I said that attitude 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: is a better predictor of success than IQ. They related 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: attitude and success. You know, attitude really starts with the 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: way we think about something, are someone, and that's how 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 3: we developed these attitudes. 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: You see. 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: It's interesting because when you think about something or someone 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 3: the wrong way, you develop. 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: A bad attitude. 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: When you think about something or someone the right way, 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: then you. 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: Develop a good attitude. 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: So they were saying, either you can have a bad 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: attitude and you lack success no matter how bright you are, 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: or you can have a good attitude even if you're 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 3: not the brightest person. 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: That sounds pretty good to me. I'm all in. 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 3: See, the truth of the matter is in the Book 24 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: of Numbers. There was two men who displayed this exact study. 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: Stanford just should have studied Joshua and Caleb, because these 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: two guys were amazing in their attitude now many of 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: you know the story. Moses took twelve leaders from the 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: tribes of Israel, and he told them to go into 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: this land that God had already promised to give them 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: and spy the land out. 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: He said, go in, check out the. 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: Land, bring back some produce, bring back some of the 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: vegetation that's in the land, so we can kind of 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: have a glimpse of what's in that land, you know. 35 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: And it talks about how they grapes were in season, 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: and how they had to carry a cluster of grapes 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: like on a long bar, and it took two men 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: to get the grapes back to the camp. Listen, Randalls 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: doesn't have grapes like that. They were big grapes. The 40 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: land was flourishing. But also in that land they saw giants. 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: All twelve of those spies came back and they saw 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 3: the same thing, and they said, yes, the land is good. Now, 43 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: isn't it interesting about attitude? We can all see the 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: same thing, But we're going to formulate our attitude by 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: the way we think. 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: You see, how you think. 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: Is directly related to your report. What's gonna come out 48 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 3: of your mouth? The Bible says that you know, out 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: of the heart the mouth speaks. That's why you can't 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: hide a bad attitude for long. You can try to 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: push it down, you can try to fake people out, 52 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 3: you can try to act like you're enjoying somebody's conversation 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: when you're thinking bad thoughts about it the whole time. 54 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: But let me tell you something, Eventually, it's going to 55 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 3: show up. It may not show up in that person's conversation, 56 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: but I guarantee you it's going to show up somewhere 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: else in your life. Because bad attitudes spread, they have legs, 58 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: they are transferred into other areas of our life. 59 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: So back to my story. 60 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: They all saw that the land was filled with beautiful vegetation, 61 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: great soil, but it also had giants. It also had 62 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: some strong people in the land. So ten of those 63 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: leaders came back and they reported that the land is good. 64 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: We agree on that, but the. 65 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: Way we see it, we see it with giants, we 66 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: see it with wall cities. We see those people way 67 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: bigger than us. In fact, we are small in comparison 68 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: to them. They actually described themselves as grasshoppers about that time. 69 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: Joshua and Caleb, they were like ssh. 70 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: The scripture describes them as trying to hush the bad report. 71 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: You see, they were of a different spirit. The Bible 72 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: describes them of a different attitude. 73 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: They were different than the rest of them. 74 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: You see, they didn't see the impossibilities. They saw the 75 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: beautiful land. But when they saw the giants, you know 76 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: what they saw, They saw an opportunity for God to 77 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 3: work in their life. They saw an opportunity for them 78 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: to trust God for what he had spoken in their life. 79 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: They saw an opportunity to possess a promise and let 80 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: God fight their battles for them. 81 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: You see, they tried to hush the bad report. 82 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: Have you ever thought in your mind, you know, you 83 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: have this idea and you're excited about what God wants 84 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: to do in your life. 85 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: Maybe it's a uh, a promotion. 86 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: Maybe you know you're you're really gonna believe this is 87 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: a relationship for you. 88 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: It's gonna work out. 89 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: There's some things that you're really believing for are gonna 90 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: happen in your life. 91 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: And it looks good. 92 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: But then all of a sudden, those negative voices start 93 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: telling you why it's not good and how it's. 94 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: Never gonna happen. 95 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: Can I tell you you've gotta be like Joshua and Caleb, 96 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,119 Speaker 3: and you gotta hush those voices. You gotta shut them down. 97 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: You've got to say no, I'm not gonna listen to you. 98 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: I truly believe Moses was under the impression that when 99 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: they came back, they were gonna bring a good report. 100 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: They were gonna encourage the camp. They were gonna bring 101 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: those grapes. They were gonna go, yeah, we're gonna go 102 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: get those grapes. 103 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: We're hungry. We hadn't had any grapes lately. 104 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: But it didn't because of the bad report the leaders brought. 105 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,039 Speaker 2: They couldn't hush a bad report. You know what that 106 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: tells me today? 107 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: That tells me that we got to drive out negative voices. 108 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: We can't be negative talkers. 109 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: We can't transfer negative reports to our family. We can't 110 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 3: transmit fear to our children. We can't discipline them from 111 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: our place of fear. Listen, we want to build faith. 112 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: We want to be like Joshua and Caleb. Whenever you're 113 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: blaming someone, I've noticed this, and this is what the 114 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: Bible tells us they did. They literally were so discouraged 115 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: with this bad report that they begin to cry out 116 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: and blame Moses and. 117 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: Aaron for all the trouble. 118 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 3: See, they couldn't even see the miracles and the good things, 119 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: for the fact they were so focused on all their trouble, 120 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: all the bad report. So they begin to blame and 121 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: point the finger. Don't you know that was a bad day. 122 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: It was a bad day. I'm sure that there was 123 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: disputes among those people that didn't even have to be 124 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: there because they were so negative. They were such a 125 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: bad mood. They couldn't see anything. Have you ever been 126 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: around people in bad moods. Well, that whole camp was 127 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: in a bad mood, and you know what happened. They 128 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: stayed there for forty years total. They complained and they 129 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: remained for forty years. And that's what a negative attitude does. 130 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: That's what complaining and griping and grumbling does. So I 131 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: would if you find yourself in a place where you're 132 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: trying to lay blame, I would encourage. 133 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: You to check your attitude. 134 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: If it's someone else's faults, you need to check your attitude. 135 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: Because this is my point today. Joshua and Caleb had 136 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: a different spirit. They had an excellent spirit, an excellent attitude. 137 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: They were at the same place the other ten men were, 138 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: but they weren't gonna go drop to the depths of 139 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: the negative situation. They weren't gonna allow their faith to 140 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: be destroyed. And you know, as a result of that, 141 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: they actually thrived in the wilderness when everyone else died 142 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: in the wilderness. 143 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: Because they were different. 144 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: And God has called you and I to be different 145 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: of an excellent spirit. You may be in a place 146 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: right now that's hard and difficult. You may not see 147 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: how you're gonna get out. But you think about Joshua 148 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: and Caleb and how they continue to promote the Lord. 149 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: They continue to work for God. They didn't die, but 150 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: they thrived in the wilderness. And do you know because 151 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: they thrived in the wilderness, they were able to take 152 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: the next generation of Israelites into the Promised Land and 153 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: possess what God said they were going to possess. You 154 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: know what I find really interesting about this good attitude 155 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 3: that they had. The Bible said that when they went 156 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: into the Promised Land, Joshua and Caleb and took the 157 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: next generation, they said to the Lord, we feel better 158 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: than we ever have, we feel stronger than we ever have, 159 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: and we're ready to take this land. You see, they 160 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: were ready to take the land back. Then their report was, 161 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 3: we can certainly take this land. And that's how we 162 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 3: have to be. We have to be of a report. 163 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: We can certainly do this. We can certainly fight through 164 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: this because God is going to actually fight our battles 165 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: for us. If we'll just stay in an attitude of 166 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: faith and trust, God can do it. When Joshua took 167 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: the next generation of Israelites into the Promised Land, this 168 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: was his motto. This was his vision statement, and I 169 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 3: think it's a great vision statement for each and every 170 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 3: one of us. He told those people, he said, look today, 171 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: choose who you're gonna serve. Choose who you're gonna serve. 172 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: Are you gonna serve negative idolatry and you're gonna serve 173 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: bad attitudes? 174 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: What are you gonna serve? 175 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what I'm gonna serve and what 176 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: I've always served, and I for me and my house, 177 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: we are going. 178 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: To serve the Lord. 179 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 3: We are choosing to take the high roads. 180 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 2: We're choosing to. 181 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: Overlook an offense. We're choosing to hush those negative voices, 182 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: whether they're in our own mind wanting to come out 183 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: of our mouth, are there from someone else. We have 184 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: the choice, and that's the bottom line. That was his 185 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: mission statement to them. You choose what you think about, 186 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: You choose, and you decide who you're gonna serve. Listen, 187 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: we are Joshua and Caleb in this generation. We're not 188 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: gonna pass on fear, We're not gonna pass on doubt, 189 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: and we're not gonna spread a negative report. 190 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: But we're gonna go in and we're gonna take the 191 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: land of God. Amen. 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