1 00:00:05,496 --> 00:00:07,696 Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is 2 00:00:07,736 --> 00:00:10,616 Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. 3 00:00:12,096 --> 00:00:17,896 Speaker 2: We got loss to say, we got lost to save 4 00:00:20,616 --> 00:00:23,896 Speaker 2: what a begger? And we hope you stay because we 5 00:00:24,056 --> 00:00:30,176 Speaker 2: got lost to say, Yeah, we got lost to say. 6 00:00:31,136 --> 00:00:35,376 Speaker 3: Now here's Bobby that what's up, everybuddy? I think we 7 00:00:35,415 --> 00:00:38,455 Speaker 3: should start by just talking about all of the moves 8 00:00:38,576 --> 00:00:40,976 Speaker 3: or lack of moves, but a lot of money being spent. 9 00:00:41,216 --> 00:00:44,056 Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about Matt getting into like like 10 00:00:44,495 --> 00:00:47,136 Speaker 3: general managing personnel. Has that ever been something you wanted 11 00:00:47,175 --> 00:00:47,376 Speaker 3: to do? 12 00:00:47,736 --> 00:00:48,896 Speaker 4: It would be it would be fun. 13 00:00:48,896 --> 00:00:50,175 Speaker 5: I don't think I would want to get into the 14 00:00:50,175 --> 00:00:53,336 Speaker 5: player personnel side, just because those guys grind and they're 15 00:00:53,376 --> 00:00:55,776 Speaker 5: always traveling doing all that stuff. But actually being in 16 00:00:55,816 --> 00:00:58,976 Speaker 5: the front office and working different types of deals that 17 00:00:59,016 --> 00:01:01,935 Speaker 5: would be fun. The landscape changed so dramatically since when 18 00:01:01,976 --> 00:01:03,536 Speaker 5: I came in. I mean you think about even two 19 00:01:03,576 --> 00:01:06,496 Speaker 5: years ago, salary caps at thirty four. It's at like 20 00:01:06,536 --> 00:01:09,576 Speaker 5: two seventy five now, So you're just you can sit 21 00:01:09,616 --> 00:01:12,816 Speaker 5: there and be played with money that's really the owner's money, 22 00:01:12,816 --> 00:01:14,536 Speaker 5: but at the same time go out get the guys 23 00:01:14,536 --> 00:01:16,536 Speaker 5: that you want. But it's going to the highest bidder. 24 00:01:17,016 --> 00:01:19,496 Speaker 6: You think you'd be a good scout probably, But I'd. 25 00:01:19,376 --> 00:01:22,816 Speaker 5: Also I'm one of those guys that's very skeptical. So 26 00:01:22,896 --> 00:01:25,696 Speaker 5: I'd sit there and I'd probably over evaluate somebody and 27 00:01:25,696 --> 00:01:28,096 Speaker 5: find more weaknesses than strengths, and then they'd be like, dude, 28 00:01:28,096 --> 00:01:28,936 Speaker 5: this guy's awesome. 29 00:01:29,376 --> 00:01:30,376 Speaker 4: I was like, sorry about that. 30 00:01:30,616 --> 00:01:32,776 Speaker 5: I just I thought maybe he'd be he'd be a 31 00:01:32,816 --> 00:01:35,416 Speaker 5: little bit upset that he uh, he stumbled out of 32 00:01:35,456 --> 00:01:36,216 Speaker 5: his break or something. 33 00:01:36,416 --> 00:01:38,136 Speaker 4: I don't know. I'd just be you know, a little 34 00:01:38,176 --> 00:01:39,496 Speaker 4: probably too too critical. 35 00:01:40,056 --> 00:01:42,096 Speaker 3: I want to go over and use your critical skills here, 36 00:01:42,136 --> 00:01:46,096 Speaker 3: and let's talk about some of the moves. And even 37 00:01:46,136 --> 00:01:47,616 Speaker 3: if the player's not moving some of the moves, the 38 00:01:47,616 --> 00:01:50,656 Speaker 3: teams have made to spend money on some of these players. 39 00:01:51,056 --> 00:01:55,016 Speaker 3: So I will present what the situation is, and you 40 00:01:55,016 --> 00:01:58,936 Speaker 3: tell me if you think it is a game changer or. 41 00:01:59,256 --> 00:02:01,056 Speaker 6: If it's just you know, stay in the course. 42 00:02:01,576 --> 00:02:04,256 Speaker 3: The bills extend Josh Allen six years, three hundred and 43 00:02:04,256 --> 00:02:07,456 Speaker 3: thirty million dollars with two hundred and fifty million guaranteed. 44 00:02:07,976 --> 00:02:11,176 Speaker 4: Wow, it's good time to play quarterback in the NFL. 45 00:02:11,416 --> 00:02:14,055 Speaker 5: I think this was just staying the course, obviously goes 46 00:02:14,056 --> 00:02:17,176 Speaker 5: out wins the MVP. We talked about it the entire 47 00:02:17,256 --> 00:02:21,136 Speaker 5: year about the talent that surrounded him probably wasn't comparable 48 00:02:21,296 --> 00:02:22,976 Speaker 5: to other teams, but to go out and have the 49 00:02:23,016 --> 00:02:25,376 Speaker 5: year that he did proves that he's that guy. And 50 00:02:25,416 --> 00:02:27,336 Speaker 5: now he's the highest paid quarterback in the league, and 51 00:02:27,376 --> 00:02:28,016 Speaker 5: deservedly so. 52 00:02:29,216 --> 00:02:31,936 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think we've learned too that if you 53 00:02:32,096 --> 00:02:35,296 Speaker 3: sign your big players earlier, which is this is an 54 00:02:35,336 --> 00:02:37,976 Speaker 3: extension more than it is his contract was up, that 55 00:02:38,096 --> 00:02:40,736 Speaker 3: even if it is a monster deal, when it comes 56 00:02:40,776 --> 00:02:43,696 Speaker 3: back around when his deal would have been up, they 57 00:02:43,736 --> 00:02:46,335 Speaker 3: would have it would have cost them a lot more 58 00:02:46,776 --> 00:02:47,615 Speaker 3: than if they were. 59 00:02:47,496 --> 00:02:48,296 Speaker 6: To do it now. 60 00:02:48,616 --> 00:02:50,736 Speaker 3: So as much as this is the it's the biggest 61 00:02:50,736 --> 00:02:53,816 Speaker 3: guaranteed contract of all time with two fifty, although the 62 00:02:53,856 --> 00:02:56,536 Speaker 3: whole thing is not guaranteed, but the two fifty is 63 00:02:56,576 --> 00:03:00,096 Speaker 3: more than when the Browns made their knucklehead full guaranteed 64 00:03:00,096 --> 00:03:02,816 Speaker 3: contract to Deshaun Watson. But what's going to happen is 65 00:03:03,256 --> 00:03:06,736 Speaker 3: in six years you're gonna go, oh, yeah, that was 66 00:03:06,816 --> 00:03:09,336 Speaker 3: kind of a deal in comparison to what you know 67 00:03:09,376 --> 00:03:10,816 Speaker 3: teams are paying now. 68 00:03:11,096 --> 00:03:13,056 Speaker 6: So yeah, they had to do it. You didn't want 69 00:03:13,056 --> 00:03:13,656 Speaker 6: to lose your guy. 70 00:03:13,696 --> 00:03:16,176 Speaker 3: If you get a quarterback, now, the last thing you 71 00:03:16,216 --> 00:03:18,296 Speaker 3: want to do is let him go, especially if he's 72 00:03:18,336 --> 00:03:21,615 Speaker 3: like a in the top third of quarterbacks. So yeah, 73 00:03:21,616 --> 00:03:23,576 Speaker 3: I'm with you, but it was a move that needed 74 00:03:23,616 --> 00:03:27,096 Speaker 3: to be made. Let's go to the Rams signing Davante Adams. 75 00:03:27,096 --> 00:03:29,936 Speaker 3: The deals two years, forty six million dollars, twenty six 76 00:03:29,976 --> 00:03:30,736 Speaker 3: million guaranteed. 77 00:03:31,016 --> 00:03:34,056 Speaker 5: I like it to bring in a guy like Davante Adams. 78 00:03:34,096 --> 00:03:36,216 Speaker 5: He can still play, there's no doubt about that. Put 79 00:03:36,296 --> 00:03:39,296 Speaker 5: him in Sean McVay with a veteran quarterback with Matthew Stafford, 80 00:03:39,376 --> 00:03:40,176 Speaker 5: which they. 81 00:03:40,096 --> 00:03:41,376 Speaker 4: Redid his deal as well. 82 00:03:41,816 --> 00:03:44,416 Speaker 5: Now you've got a true guy on the outside and 83 00:03:44,456 --> 00:03:46,696 Speaker 5: an alpha alpha male that he's going to go out 84 00:03:46,736 --> 00:03:49,696 Speaker 5: and produce. And I think that there's question marks about 85 00:03:49,776 --> 00:03:53,576 Speaker 5: Davante personality wise. From the Raiders you saw him on. 86 00:03:53,656 --> 00:03:55,416 Speaker 5: What was the It wasn't the hard knocks, it was 87 00:03:55,456 --> 00:03:58,296 Speaker 5: the wide receiver. Yeah, wide receiver, And you had some 88 00:03:58,456 --> 00:04:02,696 Speaker 5: questions there going up man. I mean, from a personality standpoint, 89 00:04:02,896 --> 00:04:05,296 Speaker 5: he ruffles the feathers a little bit, but at the 90 00:04:05,496 --> 00:04:07,296 Speaker 5: same time, he's still a hell of a player and 91 00:04:07,336 --> 00:04:09,776 Speaker 5: will add a tremendous amount of value for that team 92 00:04:09,816 --> 00:04:10,776 Speaker 5: in that offensive unit. 93 00:04:11,216 --> 00:04:13,776 Speaker 3: And I think Cup is as good as gone. You know, 94 00:04:13,816 --> 00:04:16,455 Speaker 3: they even did the ah we loved La. We hate 95 00:04:16,496 --> 00:04:19,135 Speaker 3: to go, but it looks like we're gonna have to go. 96 00:04:19,536 --> 00:04:23,655 Speaker 3: But with Devanta Adams and Pooka and Stafford, you know, 97 00:04:23,815 --> 00:04:27,135 Speaker 3: is this the time of just putting it all on 98 00:04:27,135 --> 00:04:29,896 Speaker 3: your offense, like all your money, just going full offense 99 00:04:29,895 --> 00:04:31,815 Speaker 3: and just hoping your defense can keep you in games. 100 00:04:32,015 --> 00:04:33,976 Speaker 5: Well that's the thing about the Rams too, when you 101 00:04:34,015 --> 00:04:37,335 Speaker 5: look at what they've done. They've drafted really well, particularly 102 00:04:37,376 --> 00:04:39,455 Speaker 5: on the defensive side of the ball. They've got a 103 00:04:39,496 --> 00:04:41,896 Speaker 5: ton of value on that side. So they're young, they're aggressive. 104 00:04:41,936 --> 00:04:43,936 Speaker 5: You saw them in the playoffs. They just got better 105 00:04:43,976 --> 00:04:46,176 Speaker 5: and better as the year went on. Now they sustained 106 00:04:46,215 --> 00:04:48,135 Speaker 5: a lot of injuries on the offensive side the ball. 107 00:04:48,296 --> 00:04:51,376 Speaker 5: But if you surround Matthew Stafford as talented as he is, 108 00:04:51,856 --> 00:04:56,095 Speaker 5: with a true grouping of wide receivers on the outside, 109 00:04:56,536 --> 00:04:59,695 Speaker 5: I mean this team will compete for championships because that's 110 00:04:59,736 --> 00:05:02,656 Speaker 5: the type of caliber I believe matt Stafford is. So 111 00:05:02,736 --> 00:05:05,096 Speaker 5: protect him up front and also put talent around him 112 00:05:05,096 --> 00:05:07,415 Speaker 5: on the out outside. I think that they have a 113 00:05:07,416 --> 00:05:08,695 Speaker 5: great recipe for success. 114 00:05:09,176 --> 00:05:13,096 Speaker 3: The Steelers traded for DK Metcalf and so the Seahawks 115 00:05:13,135 --> 00:05:15,616 Speaker 3: got a twenty twenty five second round pick and a 116 00:05:15,695 --> 00:05:19,296 Speaker 3: late round pickswap for this upcoming draft. The Steelers get 117 00:05:19,376 --> 00:05:21,936 Speaker 3: DK Metcalf and so with that though, so they have 118 00:05:22,015 --> 00:05:25,056 Speaker 3: DK and now they have George Pickens. George Pickens, what 119 00:05:25,056 --> 00:05:27,015 Speaker 3: do you think about that trade for the second round pick. 120 00:05:27,215 --> 00:05:28,056 Speaker 4: I think it's awesome. 121 00:05:28,135 --> 00:05:32,695 Speaker 5: Dk Metcalf is an absolute beast and he produces, he's consistent, 122 00:05:32,815 --> 00:05:36,296 Speaker 5: he's usually healthy, so he's a true number one wide receiver. 123 00:05:36,376 --> 00:05:38,735 Speaker 5: Then you have George Pickens on the other side. I 124 00:05:38,775 --> 00:05:42,376 Speaker 5: mean you've got two potentially number one guys on the outside. 125 00:05:42,376 --> 00:05:45,255 Speaker 5: There puts you in a really good position at a 126 00:05:45,255 --> 00:05:47,656 Speaker 5: playmaking standpoint for the Steelers. 127 00:05:47,976 --> 00:05:49,255 Speaker 4: I think this is great trade. 128 00:05:49,416 --> 00:05:50,895 Speaker 3: I like at Pittsburgh though, and it's like, who's going 129 00:05:50,976 --> 00:05:53,936 Speaker 3: to throw the ball to those guys? You know, this 130 00:05:54,015 --> 00:05:59,056 Speaker 3: morning it was Rogers to Pittsburgh, after it was Rogers 131 00:05:59,056 --> 00:06:01,695 Speaker 3: to the Giants, and both of our predictions, I was 132 00:06:01,775 --> 00:06:03,656 Speaker 3: mine was a giant Jorse with Pittsburgh. So I mean, 133 00:06:03,655 --> 00:06:07,255 Speaker 3: if they get Aaron Rodgers in that is that offense 134 00:06:07,335 --> 00:06:08,015 Speaker 3: is going to be good. 135 00:06:08,335 --> 00:06:10,695 Speaker 5: They're gonna be really good, and that might be the 136 00:06:10,736 --> 00:06:13,135 Speaker 5: play is saying, hey, look we just went out and 137 00:06:13,176 --> 00:06:17,736 Speaker 5: got DK Metcalf. Now you've got George Pickens DK Metcalf. 138 00:06:18,455 --> 00:06:21,096 Speaker 5: Is it Pat Fryarmouth as their tied end run down 139 00:06:21,135 --> 00:06:23,656 Speaker 5: the middle? So you've got these three components, and that's 140 00:06:23,655 --> 00:06:26,536 Speaker 5: attractive to any quarterback because if you're Aaron Rodgers, you're 141 00:06:26,536 --> 00:06:28,575 Speaker 5: looking about where can I go in and have success? 142 00:06:28,616 --> 00:06:30,575 Speaker 5: Where do they have people around me that can help 143 00:06:31,135 --> 00:06:33,015 Speaker 5: me be the player that I need to be. Same 144 00:06:33,056 --> 00:06:35,136 Speaker 5: thing when Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay at the 145 00:06:35,215 --> 00:06:37,775 Speaker 5: end of his career, he went there because of the 146 00:06:37,775 --> 00:06:40,135 Speaker 5: talent on that roster, particularly on the offensive to side. 147 00:06:40,176 --> 00:06:43,616 Speaker 5: So it becomes more attractive to a quarterback like Aaron 148 00:06:43,695 --> 00:06:46,296 Speaker 5: Rodgers when you go out and you spend the money 149 00:06:46,496 --> 00:06:49,095 Speaker 5: on another number one wide receiver, I think. 150 00:06:48,976 --> 00:06:50,056 Speaker 4: That they could be really good. 151 00:06:50,135 --> 00:06:52,575 Speaker 5: But they definitely don't know who's going to be quarterback, 152 00:06:52,616 --> 00:06:54,735 Speaker 5: but they put themselves in a position at least to 153 00:06:54,775 --> 00:06:56,655 Speaker 5: make a play and make it attractive place to come. 154 00:06:56,976 --> 00:06:59,535 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett was extended by the Browns, and this was 155 00:06:59,536 --> 00:07:01,416 Speaker 3: a soap opera because Miles Garrett put an ad in 156 00:07:01,455 --> 00:07:03,975 Speaker 3: the paper in Cleveland was like, Cleveland, I love you. 157 00:07:05,015 --> 00:07:06,855 Speaker 3: I don't want to leave the city, but I feel 158 00:07:06,856 --> 00:07:09,376 Speaker 3: like the team isn't really doing blah blah blah. And 159 00:07:09,416 --> 00:07:10,975 Speaker 3: then he goes and he's doing the press tour and 160 00:07:10,976 --> 00:07:12,256 Speaker 3: he kind of lost some of that love by the 161 00:07:12,256 --> 00:07:14,456 Speaker 3: city and he's like, I'm not playing. They're like, we're 162 00:07:14,456 --> 00:07:16,776 Speaker 3: not trading you. And then next thing you know, it's Boom. 163 00:07:16,856 --> 00:07:20,016 Speaker 3: Highest paid person that's not a quarterback ever, four years, 164 00:07:20,056 --> 00:07:23,336 Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty million with one twenty three guaranteed. 165 00:07:23,616 --> 00:07:25,336 Speaker 6: Holy craft thoughts, m. 166 00:07:26,016 --> 00:07:28,336 Speaker 5: Dude, he's an absolute stud. I never thought Cleveland was 167 00:07:28,376 --> 00:07:29,736 Speaker 5: going to ever let him walk out of the door. 168 00:07:29,736 --> 00:07:33,095 Speaker 5: Why would you trade your number one player on your team, 169 00:07:33,536 --> 00:07:35,936 Speaker 5: one of the most dynamic defensive end, if not the 170 00:07:35,976 --> 00:07:39,296 Speaker 5: most dynamic defensive end, just because of his size, his speed, 171 00:07:39,696 --> 00:07:42,976 Speaker 5: his versatility. They move him around and so well played 172 00:07:42,976 --> 00:07:46,055 Speaker 5: by him. I mean, let's let's throw a temper tantrum 173 00:07:46,096 --> 00:07:47,975 Speaker 5: for a little bit, see what happens, and then gets 174 00:07:48,016 --> 00:07:50,336 Speaker 5: rewarded with one hundred and sixty million dollars deal. I mean, 175 00:07:50,416 --> 00:07:53,295 Speaker 5: it's it's not exactly how you write it. Up, but 176 00:07:53,336 --> 00:07:54,896 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, he got what he wanted. 177 00:07:54,976 --> 00:07:58,136 Speaker 5: And now I guarantee he really loves the city of Cleveland. 178 00:07:57,936 --> 00:07:58,576 Speaker 4: So much more. 179 00:07:59,456 --> 00:08:02,295 Speaker 3: I feel, honestly, like, in my heart, I feel like 180 00:08:02,376 --> 00:08:05,056 Speaker 3: he not so much wanted to leave Cleveland, but he 181 00:08:05,096 --> 00:08:08,056 Speaker 3: wanted to play for a team and an organization that 182 00:08:08,096 --> 00:08:10,336 Speaker 3: would give him a chance to win a championship because 183 00:08:10,376 --> 00:08:13,016 Speaker 3: he is so elited about thirty years old and so 184 00:08:13,056 --> 00:08:17,336 Speaker 3: he's got six seven real prime years left in him. 185 00:08:17,655 --> 00:08:20,936 Speaker 3: But a wise man named Teddy Biassi WWF once said 186 00:08:20,936 --> 00:08:24,016 Speaker 3: everybody's got a price. I don't feel like he was 187 00:08:24,056 --> 00:08:26,616 Speaker 3: really holding out for more money or saying, hey, I'm 188 00:08:26,655 --> 00:08:27,216 Speaker 3: not gonna play. 189 00:08:27,296 --> 00:08:28,136 Speaker 6: I really feel like he. 190 00:08:28,096 --> 00:08:29,976 Speaker 3: Wanted to leave, but there is a point, There is 191 00:08:30,016 --> 00:08:32,256 Speaker 3: a threshold, and I guess that threshold is one hundred 192 00:08:32,296 --> 00:08:34,456 Speaker 3: and sixty million, where you're like, you know what, I 193 00:08:34,456 --> 00:08:35,496 Speaker 3: have changed my mind. 194 00:08:35,936 --> 00:08:38,295 Speaker 5: I have changed guess what I'll be in there in 195 00:08:38,336 --> 00:08:41,696 Speaker 5: the gym tomorrow. I love Cleveland. I'm gonna do a 196 00:08:41,736 --> 00:08:44,736 Speaker 5: lot of stuff around the city and just yeah, my 197 00:08:44,776 --> 00:08:45,976 Speaker 5: mind's totally changed. 198 00:08:46,016 --> 00:08:47,936 Speaker 4: Now. It's amazing what money can do. 199 00:08:48,736 --> 00:08:51,776 Speaker 6: The Ravens and Ronnie Stanley. 200 00:08:53,535 --> 00:08:54,096 Speaker 4: Great deal. 201 00:08:54,175 --> 00:08:56,415 Speaker 6: Three year, sixty million bucks. He's awesome. 202 00:08:56,896 --> 00:08:58,456 Speaker 4: Like your point. 203 00:08:58,535 --> 00:09:01,295 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're Derek Henry, if you're Lamar Jackson, that's 204 00:09:01,336 --> 00:09:02,576 Speaker 3: just a sigh of relief, right. 205 00:09:02,736 --> 00:09:03,456 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. 206 00:09:03,496 --> 00:09:06,136 Speaker 5: Because the most important guy on your offensive line is 207 00:09:06,175 --> 00:09:07,655 Speaker 5: always your left tackle. 208 00:09:07,935 --> 00:09:08,655 Speaker 4: He's your bookend. 209 00:09:08,736 --> 00:09:11,696 Speaker 5: He's usually matched up against the best pass rusher that 210 00:09:11,736 --> 00:09:14,256 Speaker 5: every other team has. So if you have somebody there 211 00:09:14,256 --> 00:09:16,776 Speaker 5: that you trust that can cover your blind side and 212 00:09:16,816 --> 00:09:19,295 Speaker 5: at the same time be a dominant force, that's just 213 00:09:19,456 --> 00:09:21,336 Speaker 5: a headache that you don't have to worry about. So 214 00:09:21,696 --> 00:09:25,256 Speaker 5: that's why they're so valuable that left tackle position is 215 00:09:25,295 --> 00:09:27,896 Speaker 5: because if you have a guy there, that really stabilizes 216 00:09:27,935 --> 00:09:31,216 Speaker 5: your offensive line because interior wise, you can usually go 217 00:09:31,295 --> 00:09:34,496 Speaker 5: out and get guys that are good enough to hold 218 00:09:34,576 --> 00:09:37,096 Speaker 5: up on the inside, but those guys that are special 219 00:09:37,136 --> 00:09:39,776 Speaker 5: on the outside, like Ronnie Stanley, you want to keep 220 00:09:39,816 --> 00:09:41,376 Speaker 5: them around for as long as possible. 221 00:09:41,776 --> 00:09:43,496 Speaker 6: Raiders trade for a quarterback Geno Smith. 222 00:09:43,616 --> 00:09:47,455 Speaker 3: Seahawks got a twenty twenty five third round pick Geno 223 00:09:47,496 --> 00:09:51,016 Speaker 3: back with Pete Carroll, so that's kind of cool. I 224 00:09:51,055 --> 00:09:53,736 Speaker 3: do feel like they're drafting Gino and they're probably also 225 00:09:54,216 --> 00:09:56,616 Speaker 3: if I'm just guessing, going to draft Shador at six 226 00:09:56,655 --> 00:09:58,055 Speaker 3: if he's there, so they're also going to get a 227 00:09:58,136 --> 00:09:58,776 Speaker 3: young quarterback. 228 00:09:59,096 --> 00:10:01,576 Speaker 6: But Geno Smith going to the Raiders, thoughts. 229 00:10:01,976 --> 00:10:03,816 Speaker 4: I love it. I mean, I know Pete Carroll has 230 00:10:03,856 --> 00:10:04,616 Speaker 4: a ton of respect. 231 00:10:04,616 --> 00:10:07,856 Speaker 5: He was there when Gino resurrected his careers just a 232 00:10:07,896 --> 00:10:10,176 Speaker 5: few years ago when they let go of Russell Wilson. 233 00:10:10,496 --> 00:10:13,415 Speaker 5: But now he's got a bona fide number one quarterback 234 00:10:13,496 --> 00:10:16,336 Speaker 5: coming in that he's familiar with. He can also help 235 00:10:16,415 --> 00:10:19,976 Speaker 5: set the tone for culture and the personality of Pete 236 00:10:19,976 --> 00:10:21,535 Speaker 5: Carroll and what's to be expected. 237 00:10:21,616 --> 00:10:22,535 Speaker 4: He's a true leader. 238 00:10:22,696 --> 00:10:25,296 Speaker 5: He's somebody that's well respected from what he's been through 239 00:10:25,295 --> 00:10:27,416 Speaker 5: in his career, but also how he's performed when he 240 00:10:27,456 --> 00:10:30,655 Speaker 5: got his opportunity. So I think it's a home run 241 00:10:30,736 --> 00:10:34,736 Speaker 5: for the I mean Oakland Las Vegas Raiders and where 242 00:10:34,776 --> 00:10:35,256 Speaker 5: they're going. 243 00:10:35,376 --> 00:10:37,056 Speaker 3: I know, I always want to do with the Chargers, 244 00:10:37,096 --> 00:10:38,415 Speaker 3: I know, and I do with the Chargers till San 245 00:10:38,415 --> 00:10:41,896 Speaker 3: Diega Ago. Yeah, same thing all the time the Bears 246 00:10:41,935 --> 00:10:43,736 Speaker 3: trading for Tuny from the Chiefs. 247 00:10:44,336 --> 00:10:45,776 Speaker 6: I was a bit surprised. 248 00:10:45,856 --> 00:10:49,415 Speaker 3: I mean, especially with the Chiefs, I won't say offensive 249 00:10:49,456 --> 00:10:52,175 Speaker 3: line woes because they had some injuries, but they got 250 00:10:52,175 --> 00:10:53,175 Speaker 3: a fourth round pick for him. 251 00:10:53,216 --> 00:10:54,016 Speaker 6: What are your thoughts on that. 252 00:10:54,295 --> 00:10:55,576 Speaker 4: I was not expecting that either. 253 00:10:55,616 --> 00:10:59,295 Speaker 5: I mean, Touny was their most valuable offensive lineman last year. 254 00:10:59,376 --> 00:11:01,176 Speaker 5: Not only did he play guard, he moved out and 255 00:11:01,216 --> 00:11:04,455 Speaker 5: played left tackle as well when they had the injuries 256 00:11:04,496 --> 00:11:07,256 Speaker 5: and all the stuff going on. So he was a 257 00:11:07,295 --> 00:11:12,016 Speaker 5: guy that was a staple guy on that offensive line. 258 00:11:12,016 --> 00:11:13,856 Speaker 4: But it was interesting that they traded him away for 259 00:11:13,856 --> 00:11:15,336 Speaker 4: a fourth round pick. It might have been. 260 00:11:15,256 --> 00:11:18,736 Speaker 5: Because the salary cap issues or whatever they deemed was 261 00:11:18,776 --> 00:11:22,296 Speaker 5: the reasoning behind it. But Chicago picks up a home 262 00:11:22,376 --> 00:11:25,096 Speaker 5: run again for them because they want to protect Caleb 263 00:11:25,136 --> 00:11:28,216 Speaker 5: Williams moving forward and to solidify that offensive line who 264 00:11:28,256 --> 00:11:30,936 Speaker 5: struggled last year for Chicago. Bringing a guy like Tony 265 00:11:30,976 --> 00:11:34,856 Speaker 5: again veteran presidence, good locker room guy, and also has 266 00:11:35,256 --> 00:11:39,136 Speaker 5: played at a really high level throughout his career, that's 267 00:11:39,175 --> 00:11:40,655 Speaker 5: a great pickup for Chicago. 268 00:11:40,935 --> 00:11:43,295 Speaker 3: I guess, if I'm putting on my speculator eyeball on, it's 269 00:11:44,336 --> 00:11:48,535 Speaker 3: obviously resigning Trace Smith at the priority with Kansas City 270 00:11:48,696 --> 00:11:50,936 Speaker 3: and then they're going to have to just draft a 271 00:11:50,935 --> 00:11:53,776 Speaker 3: couple offensive linemen. But that is one thing Kansas City 272 00:11:53,776 --> 00:11:55,816 Speaker 3: has been able to do really well with Andy Reid 273 00:11:55,856 --> 00:12:00,016 Speaker 3: and that organization there is draft well and have guys 274 00:12:00,096 --> 00:12:01,496 Speaker 3: you don't have to pay a lot too because they're 275 00:12:01,496 --> 00:12:03,816 Speaker 3: in their rookie deals, while also having your guys that 276 00:12:03,856 --> 00:12:07,256 Speaker 3: are making the big money and consistently moving them when 277 00:12:07,256 --> 00:12:09,096 Speaker 3: it's time for some of those guys to get paid, 278 00:12:09,295 --> 00:12:12,736 Speaker 3: and then redraft well again, because that's the key to 279 00:12:12,856 --> 00:12:18,376 Speaker 3: keeping your organization successful, right, is drafting well year after year. 280 00:12:18,696 --> 00:12:21,856 Speaker 5: One hundred percent, because you only have so many draft picks, 281 00:12:21,856 --> 00:12:24,896 Speaker 5: and if you hit on first round, second round is 282 00:12:24,896 --> 00:12:27,616 Speaker 5: a little bit different because those guys are usually bona 283 00:12:27,655 --> 00:12:30,536 Speaker 5: fide studs, right, But then you get into the third 284 00:12:30,535 --> 00:12:33,736 Speaker 5: and fourth round and continue to draft well and get 285 00:12:33,736 --> 00:12:35,896 Speaker 5: guys that come in and develop at such a rate 286 00:12:35,976 --> 00:12:38,376 Speaker 5: the way that they have in the history of success 287 00:12:38,376 --> 00:12:40,976 Speaker 5: that they've had with drafting guys like that, that's what 288 00:12:41,175 --> 00:12:46,056 Speaker 5: really stabilizes your organization for the long haul, and that's 289 00:12:46,096 --> 00:12:47,016 Speaker 5: what they've been able to do. 290 00:12:47,055 --> 00:12:47,256 Speaker 4: Now. 291 00:12:47,295 --> 00:12:49,216 Speaker 5: It's always a question mark if you don't go out 292 00:12:49,216 --> 00:12:51,736 Speaker 5: and take care of that offensive line, especially when you 293 00:12:51,736 --> 00:12:54,576 Speaker 5: have Patrick Mahomes back there, then there'll be a lot 294 00:12:54,616 --> 00:12:55,896 Speaker 5: of questions to be answered. 295 00:12:55,896 --> 00:12:56,976 Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that. 296 00:12:57,055 --> 00:13:00,576 Speaker 5: But due to their recent history and throughout their regime 297 00:13:00,655 --> 00:13:03,856 Speaker 5: under Andy Reid, they've done a remarkable job and they're 298 00:13:03,896 --> 00:13:06,336 Speaker 5: hoping to hit success with those draft picks again. 299 00:13:06,976 --> 00:13:09,016 Speaker 3: All right, So I'm recording this after Matt and I 300 00:13:09,096 --> 00:13:10,616 Speaker 3: have already split up. 301 00:13:10,776 --> 00:13:11,695 Speaker 6: Matt and I, we're working. 302 00:13:11,496 --> 00:13:15,096 Speaker 3: From different locations, and a lot of news broke as 303 00:13:15,096 --> 00:13:17,815 Speaker 3: far as free agents, so I wanted to make sure 304 00:13:17,816 --> 00:13:19,456 Speaker 3: we got them all clear here. Not that you can't 305 00:13:19,496 --> 00:13:22,535 Speaker 3: see them online, let's be honest, but we don't want 306 00:13:22,576 --> 00:13:24,616 Speaker 3: you guys to think, well, I can't believe they missed 307 00:13:24,696 --> 00:13:25,496 Speaker 3: Justin Fields. 308 00:13:25,776 --> 00:13:27,176 Speaker 6: So okay, we'll go first. 309 00:13:27,415 --> 00:13:30,976 Speaker 3: The Jets signed quarterback Justin Fields to a two year, 310 00:13:31,216 --> 00:13:33,856 Speaker 3: forty million dollar deal, And what sucks for me is 311 00:13:33,896 --> 00:13:38,616 Speaker 3: I had this massive Steelers championship belt that's signed by 312 00:13:38,736 --> 00:13:39,575 Speaker 3: Justin Fields. 313 00:13:39,976 --> 00:13:41,776 Speaker 6: Now, what the crap am I supposed to do with that? 314 00:13:42,896 --> 00:13:45,776 Speaker 3: The big news was the Seahawks sign Sam Darnold to 315 00:13:45,896 --> 00:13:49,136 Speaker 3: a three year, one hundred million dollar deal. I think 316 00:13:49,216 --> 00:13:53,536 Speaker 3: everybody and their cousin and their mama and their mailman 317 00:13:54,016 --> 00:13:58,976 Speaker 3: figured that was going to happen. Once Gino Smith went 318 00:13:59,055 --> 00:14:02,216 Speaker 3: from Seattle down to the Raiders, and so they had 319 00:14:02,256 --> 00:14:03,936 Speaker 3: money and they had space, and they. 320 00:14:03,816 --> 00:14:06,055 Speaker 6: Wanted a quarterback. But now who are going to throw too? 321 00:14:06,136 --> 00:14:06,216 Speaker 5: Right? 322 00:14:06,216 --> 00:14:10,016 Speaker 3: Because Dk Metcalf is gone, so that I'd be interesting 323 00:14:10,055 --> 00:14:12,175 Speaker 3: to watch. But the Sam Donald, I won't even call 324 00:14:12,216 --> 00:14:14,936 Speaker 3: it saga like it's exciting. I'm super pumped for him. 325 00:14:15,136 --> 00:14:17,016 Speaker 3: I never even met him. I know people who know 326 00:14:17,055 --> 00:14:20,096 Speaker 3: him say he's a great young dude. So rooting for 327 00:14:20,136 --> 00:14:23,376 Speaker 3: Sam donaldare the forty nine ers released Kyle uch Check 328 00:14:23,456 --> 00:14:26,656 Speaker 3: after eight seasons kind of blows my mind a little bit, 329 00:14:27,816 --> 00:14:30,336 Speaker 3: not because I'm in the Kyle Yuchik fan club, but 330 00:14:30,496 --> 00:14:33,296 Speaker 3: because he seemed like such a forty nine er, like 331 00:14:33,376 --> 00:14:36,256 Speaker 3: such a gritty player that would do it all, but 332 00:14:36,296 --> 00:14:39,776 Speaker 3: it all came down to dollars. I actually presented with 333 00:14:39,856 --> 00:14:42,416 Speaker 3: Kyle Uchcheck at the NFL Honors this year on Fox, 334 00:14:42,816 --> 00:14:44,136 Speaker 3: so I got a chance to know him, I mean 335 00:14:44,176 --> 00:14:46,056 Speaker 3: a little bit. We spent a couple hours together. I 336 00:14:46,136 --> 00:14:47,976 Speaker 3: love that dude. And I asked him, Hey, will you 337 00:14:47,976 --> 00:14:51,056 Speaker 3: be released after eight seasons? And he said, why are 338 00:14:51,096 --> 00:14:53,216 Speaker 3: you asking me this? I have no idea And then 339 00:14:53,216 --> 00:14:55,496 Speaker 3: I said, I don't know. I didn't even ask him that. 340 00:14:56,576 --> 00:14:59,136 Speaker 3: Najee Harris signs a one year deal with the Chargers 341 00:14:59,576 --> 00:15:02,136 Speaker 3: that with incentives, can be up to nine zero point 342 00:15:02,216 --> 00:15:03,456 Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars. 343 00:15:03,936 --> 00:15:05,856 Speaker 6: I actually really like this signing. 344 00:15:06,016 --> 00:15:09,256 Speaker 3: Whenever Matt and I were talking about underrated free agents 345 00:15:09,256 --> 00:15:11,776 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, I put Naji Harris there. 346 00:15:12,736 --> 00:15:14,896 Speaker 3: I think Naja Harris still has some tread on the tires. 347 00:15:15,496 --> 00:15:17,576 Speaker 3: The Cowboys, hey, they signed a running back. 348 00:15:17,616 --> 00:15:20,336 Speaker 6: What do you know? What do you freaking know? 349 00:15:20,816 --> 00:15:22,656 Speaker 3: I mean he is a run He does run with 350 00:15:22,696 --> 00:15:25,416 Speaker 3: the ball, so he is a running back by Javonte 351 00:15:25,496 --> 00:15:28,136 Speaker 3: Williams from the Broncos one year, three million dollar deal. 352 00:15:29,576 --> 00:15:32,176 Speaker 3: I don't know there's going to be setting any rushing records, 353 00:15:32,776 --> 00:15:34,896 Speaker 3: but they do need people that actually know how to 354 00:15:34,896 --> 00:15:36,896 Speaker 3: put the point of their finger over the ball as 355 00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:38,096 Speaker 3: they run through the line. 356 00:15:38,456 --> 00:15:41,096 Speaker 6: So how about them Cowboys. 357 00:15:41,776 --> 00:15:44,256 Speaker 3: The Saints re signed Chase Young to a three year 358 00:15:44,296 --> 00:15:47,095 Speaker 3: deal up to fifty seven million bucks. I do like that, 359 00:15:47,256 --> 00:15:50,416 Speaker 3: and also they got off for a pretty good price. 360 00:15:50,896 --> 00:15:53,736 Speaker 3: The Vikings signed by a Murphy cornerback three year, sixty 361 00:15:53,736 --> 00:15:57,336 Speaker 3: six million dollars, and the Broncos signed former forty nine 362 00:15:57,416 --> 00:16:01,016 Speaker 3: ers defensive players Dre Greenlaw, who I love Dre Greenlaw, 363 00:16:01,016 --> 00:16:04,176 Speaker 3: but I'm a big Arkansas guy, and safety talanoa hufanga. 364 00:16:04,616 --> 00:16:07,736 Speaker 3: So the Bronco looking to add defensively to what was 365 00:16:07,776 --> 00:16:12,896 Speaker 3: already a better defense, but an offense where they finally 366 00:16:12,896 --> 00:16:16,976 Speaker 3: have a quarterback they trust. So Denver just continues to 367 00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:17,416 Speaker 3: get better. 368 00:16:18,056 --> 00:16:22,016 Speaker 6: I did see and I give you one other thing here, because. 369 00:16:21,776 --> 00:16:23,976 Speaker 3: There are starting to be some rumors about some of 370 00:16:23,976 --> 00:16:27,296 Speaker 3: these other backup quarterbacks and where they're going to land. 371 00:16:27,816 --> 00:16:33,816 Speaker 6: But Zach Wilson to the Dolphins. How about that? 372 00:16:35,296 --> 00:16:37,576 Speaker 3: Zach Wilson gets a reported one year deal with the 373 00:16:37,616 --> 00:16:40,455 Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins. He will be to his backup, which means 374 00:16:40,456 --> 00:16:42,936 Speaker 3: he'll play I don't know nine games, but Zach Wilson 375 00:16:42,976 --> 00:16:45,856 Speaker 3: will be the backup one year, six million dollar deal. 376 00:16:46,176 --> 00:16:50,256 Speaker 3: You gotta wonder if the Jets did to Zach Wilson 377 00:16:50,776 --> 00:16:54,296 Speaker 3: what the Jets did to Sam Darnold, what the Jets 378 00:16:54,296 --> 00:16:56,656 Speaker 3: did to We can continue to do this with like 379 00:16:56,696 --> 00:17:00,256 Speaker 3: eight different quarterbacks. But I do like to see quarterbacks 380 00:17:00,256 --> 00:17:03,776 Speaker 3: who are in a bad situation get a chance. And 381 00:17:03,856 --> 00:17:06,856 Speaker 3: maybe with the Dolphins it might be annuals he will 382 00:17:06,896 --> 00:17:10,896 Speaker 3: be able to develop a bit and get another shout 383 00:17:10,896 --> 00:17:13,575 Speaker 3: at a starting job somewhere. So okay, that was me 384 00:17:13,616 --> 00:17:15,856 Speaker 3: breaking in I'm sure many other things we've broken since then. 385 00:17:16,016 --> 00:17:17,296 Speaker 6: I just didn't want to forget those. 386 00:17:17,776 --> 00:17:28,696 Speaker 7: Thank you for listening to lots to say. 387 00:17:35,016 --> 00:17:37,215 Speaker 3: We're gonna be a secondment called what were they Like? 388 00:17:37,696 --> 00:17:40,416 Speaker 3: Where I'm gonna ask you about somebody, Matt that I 389 00:17:40,455 --> 00:17:42,536 Speaker 3: think you had a relationship in some way. I don't 390 00:17:42,536 --> 00:17:44,696 Speaker 3: know any stories about it, and you just tell me 391 00:17:45,336 --> 00:17:47,416 Speaker 3: what were they like? And then you do the same 392 00:17:47,416 --> 00:17:50,096 Speaker 3: to me. I'll go first, Dustin colqu with the punter 393 00:17:50,176 --> 00:17:52,336 Speaker 3: like I've heard some pretty interesting stories about him in general, 394 00:17:52,455 --> 00:17:53,576 Speaker 3: like what kind of guy was he? 395 00:17:54,016 --> 00:17:56,495 Speaker 4: Oh? He was hilarious? Did he was? He was an 396 00:17:56,776 --> 00:17:58,536 Speaker 4: out of the box thinker, prankster. 397 00:17:59,056 --> 00:18:02,176 Speaker 5: I remember he was always that guy that in the 398 00:18:02,176 --> 00:18:04,936 Speaker 5: locker room and all that was pulling pranks, having fun. 399 00:18:05,495 --> 00:18:08,616 Speaker 5: When the coaches would come and do bedcheck, he put 400 00:18:08,656 --> 00:18:11,975 Speaker 5: on this gold sequence like thong and lay down on 401 00:18:12,016 --> 00:18:14,456 Speaker 5: the bed like this as they're walking in and. 402 00:18:14,416 --> 00:18:16,136 Speaker 4: You're like, what are you doing right now? 403 00:18:16,176 --> 00:18:20,696 Speaker 5: But the all time story that I remember, so Ryan 404 00:18:20,735 --> 00:18:23,056 Speaker 5: suck Up, our other kicker, was telling me this story. 405 00:18:23,256 --> 00:18:25,575 Speaker 5: There's a guy by the name of Anthony Sherman and 406 00:18:25,656 --> 00:18:29,136 Speaker 5: he had a brand new, souped up truck, and so 407 00:18:30,256 --> 00:18:33,656 Speaker 5: Dustin hijacked his I don't know Twitter or whatever and 408 00:18:33,776 --> 00:18:39,055 Speaker 5: basically said he was donating it to charity. So Anthony 409 00:18:39,056 --> 00:18:41,055 Speaker 5: Sherman had no idea that this was happening. So all 410 00:18:41,056 --> 00:18:43,176 Speaker 5: of a sudden it started to blow up on Twitter 411 00:18:43,215 --> 00:18:45,815 Speaker 5: and everything, like he's on Pat McAfee had him on 412 00:18:46,176 --> 00:18:48,856 Speaker 5: like this is amazing, and Anthony Sherman had no idea 413 00:18:49,656 --> 00:18:51,936 Speaker 5: that he had done this. But now he's backed into 414 00:18:51,975 --> 00:18:54,936 Speaker 5: a corner like what am I supposed to do? So 415 00:18:55,056 --> 00:18:59,136 Speaker 5: he ends up raffling it off, gives his truck away, 416 00:18:59,776 --> 00:19:01,816 Speaker 5: his brand new truck that he had souped up like 417 00:19:01,936 --> 00:19:05,735 Speaker 5: wheels everything else. Gives his truck away because us and 418 00:19:05,816 --> 00:19:07,536 Speaker 5: set this thing in motion as a joke. 419 00:19:07,856 --> 00:19:10,055 Speaker 4: But it caught so much fire and so much attention. 420 00:19:10,136 --> 00:19:12,176 Speaker 4: He was on the news, he was on Pat McAfee. 421 00:19:12,256 --> 00:19:15,776 Speaker 4: He's blown up, so then he doesn't know what to do. Now. 422 00:19:15,936 --> 00:19:19,775 Speaker 4: I do think that somebody donated him another truck after 423 00:19:19,816 --> 00:19:23,015 Speaker 4: they heard the story, thank god. But I was like, Dustin, 424 00:19:23,215 --> 00:19:24,656 Speaker 4: who does that one? 425 00:19:24,975 --> 00:19:27,295 Speaker 5: I'd beat your per selling my truck with help me 426 00:19:27,336 --> 00:19:31,495 Speaker 5: knowing who like to go to that extreme and just 427 00:19:31,536 --> 00:19:32,896 Speaker 5: be like, oh, this would be hilarious. 428 00:19:32,975 --> 00:19:35,736 Speaker 4: I was like, what is what are you doing? I mean, 429 00:19:35,735 --> 00:19:36,576 Speaker 4: it's unbelievable. 430 00:19:36,616 --> 00:19:37,416 Speaker 6: That's pretty funny. 431 00:19:38,416 --> 00:19:43,575 Speaker 3: And if whenever he was auctioning off his truck he 432 00:19:43,616 --> 00:19:45,376 Speaker 3: didn't know he was going to get another one, that 433 00:19:45,376 --> 00:19:47,536 Speaker 3: shows you what kind of guy he was, Like he 434 00:19:48,256 --> 00:19:50,975 Speaker 3: was backed into a corner but still committed to giving 435 00:19:51,016 --> 00:19:51,455 Speaker 3: it away. 436 00:19:51,776 --> 00:19:53,016 Speaker 6: And then whomever that was it. 437 00:19:53,016 --> 00:19:55,376 Speaker 3: Donated a truck later, like shout out to you because 438 00:19:55,376 --> 00:19:57,856 Speaker 3: you made it all better and even but that's funny. 439 00:19:58,735 --> 00:20:01,255 Speaker 4: That was pretty funny. I was like, that's pretty good stuff. 440 00:20:01,296 --> 00:20:05,096 Speaker 5: Now, you were on American Idol and I know you 441 00:20:05,176 --> 00:20:08,455 Speaker 5: know Linel Richie, So tell me a little bit about 442 00:20:08,495 --> 00:20:10,015 Speaker 5: a good Linel Richie story. 443 00:20:10,096 --> 00:20:11,535 Speaker 6: Okay, what was Lionel Richie Like? 444 00:20:11,896 --> 00:20:14,456 Speaker 3: First of all, I was on idol for four years, 445 00:20:14,656 --> 00:20:22,976 Speaker 3: and Lionel Richie is famous. Whenever being famous was everybody 446 00:20:23,056 --> 00:20:25,975 Speaker 3: knew you. Now famous, so fractured, you can be like 447 00:20:26,016 --> 00:20:28,696 Speaker 3: the greatest Broccoli influencer and like people are like, oh, 448 00:20:28,776 --> 00:20:31,455 Speaker 3: I follow Tricia Broccoli and she's like she's famous to 449 00:20:31,495 --> 00:20:34,495 Speaker 3: like a very select few people. It's hard to be 450 00:20:34,856 --> 00:20:38,455 Speaker 3: just ubiquitous where you exist everywhere. Lionel Richie was that famous, 451 00:20:38,656 --> 00:20:41,416 Speaker 3: Like this is like the eighties the early nineties, so 452 00:20:42,256 --> 00:20:47,696 Speaker 3: massively rich, obviously massive star, not only riding singing toy 453 00:20:48,136 --> 00:20:51,416 Speaker 3: in every way. So you really don't know how cool 454 00:20:51,495 --> 00:20:53,535 Speaker 3: someone's going to be when they are that big. But 455 00:20:53,576 --> 00:20:56,255 Speaker 3: through my experience now of having a life of working 456 00:20:56,296 --> 00:21:01,335 Speaker 3: with middlely famous and very famous people, the very famous 457 00:21:01,376 --> 00:21:04,176 Speaker 3: people are often the nicest because they have nothing to prove, 458 00:21:04,256 --> 00:21:08,215 Speaker 3: there is no insecurity. The comparison would be soap opera 459 00:21:08,296 --> 00:21:13,096 Speaker 3: actor to Tom Hanks. Well, Tom Hanks has nothing to prove. 460 00:21:13,136 --> 00:21:14,976 Speaker 3: Tom Hanks is just a dude, good dude being who 461 00:21:14,975 --> 00:21:17,696 Speaker 3: he is because he has no insecurity. He's Tom Hanks. 462 00:21:17,816 --> 00:21:20,016 Speaker 3: Where the soap opera actor maybe like, yeah, I'm cool, 463 00:21:20,416 --> 00:21:22,735 Speaker 3: all my guys with me, I got my crowd, my posse, 464 00:21:22,816 --> 00:21:25,096 Speaker 3: where I got all my fancy clothes on trying to 465 00:21:25,176 --> 00:21:28,975 Speaker 3: prove how cool I am. Well, Lionel Richie was the 466 00:21:29,136 --> 00:21:34,015 Speaker 3: absolute kindest, greatest guy ever. I have two really fun 467 00:21:34,096 --> 00:21:35,176 Speaker 3: Linel Richie stories. 468 00:21:35,215 --> 00:21:35,455 Speaker 6: Now. 469 00:21:35,776 --> 00:21:38,336 Speaker 3: I was fortunate enough to get to be around him 470 00:21:38,336 --> 00:21:41,096 Speaker 3: a lot. It wasn't even just a spot here a 471 00:21:41,176 --> 00:21:44,416 Speaker 3: spot They're like we would have dinners, and when Lionel 472 00:21:44,416 --> 00:21:48,136 Speaker 3: would tell a story, everybody shuts up. And that's a 473 00:21:48,256 --> 00:21:52,896 Speaker 3: room where people are again fighting for oxygen because Luke 474 00:21:52,936 --> 00:21:56,296 Speaker 3: Bryan's there and you know Luke now, and Katy Perry's there, 475 00:21:56,336 --> 00:21:59,376 Speaker 3: and Lionel's there, and I'm there, and Ryan Seacrest is 476 00:21:59,376 --> 00:22:03,216 Speaker 3: there and so and Katie. At the time, like Katie's husband, 477 00:22:03,816 --> 00:22:07,696 Speaker 3: Orlando Bloom was there, so everybody has like everybody's used 478 00:22:07,696 --> 00:22:10,656 Speaker 3: to be in the center of attention in that group. 479 00:22:10,776 --> 00:22:13,015 Speaker 3: So it's almost like a battle royal who's gonna win. 480 00:22:13,056 --> 00:22:16,296 Speaker 3: So everybody's doing story after story. But when Lionel starts talking, 481 00:22:16,336 --> 00:22:22,255 Speaker 3: and he's very he's calm, he's very calculated, and he's like, 482 00:22:22,696 --> 00:22:26,495 Speaker 3: you know, Aerita Franklin once left me a voicemail. Everybody 483 00:22:26,576 --> 00:22:30,096 Speaker 3: shuts up immediately because Lionel's talking. He doesn't demand it, 484 00:22:30,376 --> 00:22:32,776 Speaker 3: but because he's Linel and he has the greatest stories, 485 00:22:33,176 --> 00:22:37,576 Speaker 3: he automatically gets it. Story number one, we were in Savannah, Georgia, 486 00:22:37,616 --> 00:22:41,536 Speaker 3: and we're all sitting around a dinner table and again 487 00:22:41,616 --> 00:22:44,016 Speaker 3: same thing. Everybody's talking, and it's just like you wait 488 00:22:44,056 --> 00:22:46,456 Speaker 3: for somebody to take a breath, you jump in with. 489 00:22:46,416 --> 00:22:48,136 Speaker 6: The story or you just get swallowed. 490 00:22:48,616 --> 00:22:52,495 Speaker 3: So everybody's doing their thing, and Lionel goes, you know, 491 00:22:54,256 --> 00:22:59,256 Speaker 3: a flua from my California over to Europe. And I'm 492 00:22:59,296 --> 00:23:01,735 Speaker 3: just gonna paraphrase the story a little bit, but he 493 00:23:01,856 --> 00:23:04,576 Speaker 3: was like, most of the time I would I would 494 00:23:04,896 --> 00:23:08,096 Speaker 3: fly fly private, I'd fly my own plane. He said, 495 00:23:08,096 --> 00:23:10,696 Speaker 3: in this time, I wasn't able to get my plane, 496 00:23:10,735 --> 00:23:14,335 Speaker 3: so I flew commercial. Now, Lionel has been a one 497 00:23:14,376 --> 00:23:17,336 Speaker 3: hundred millionaire billionaire, I don't know for how long. So 498 00:23:17,696 --> 00:23:20,816 Speaker 3: you know what, not crazy that he flew privately from 499 00:23:20,936 --> 00:23:24,376 Speaker 3: the States to Europe, because that's. 500 00:23:24,215 --> 00:23:26,775 Speaker 6: About a two hundred thousand dollars flight. 501 00:23:26,975 --> 00:23:30,616 Speaker 3: But if Lionel's flying over to play some prince's private 502 00:23:30,696 --> 00:23:34,096 Speaker 3: show for a million dollars, that's that. And he wants 503 00:23:34,136 --> 00:23:35,816 Speaker 3: to fly over. Yeah, he wants to fly over and 504 00:23:36,336 --> 00:23:41,055 Speaker 3: have his energy. And he said, I was flying commercial, 505 00:23:41,096 --> 00:23:43,696 Speaker 3: and I was in first class, and I decided to 506 00:23:44,176 --> 00:23:45,855 Speaker 3: take a nap, and I wasn't used to all the 507 00:23:45,936 --> 00:23:49,735 Speaker 3: people around me, and so I fell asleep and I 508 00:23:49,776 --> 00:23:52,696 Speaker 3: woke up and there was a phone taking a picture 509 00:23:52,735 --> 00:23:54,575 Speaker 3: of me. And I was a little startled by the 510 00:23:54,576 --> 00:23:56,575 Speaker 3: phone because I'm not used to people taking pictures of 511 00:23:56,616 --> 00:23:58,416 Speaker 3: me while I sleep, and he said, so I called 512 00:23:58,416 --> 00:24:01,616 Speaker 3: the flight attendant over and I said, flight attendant, would 513 00:24:01,656 --> 00:24:05,696 Speaker 3: I be able to get an sie smoothie with a 514 00:24:05,696 --> 00:24:08,296 Speaker 3: certain kind of berry with a little honey, and can 515 00:24:08,336 --> 00:24:10,376 Speaker 3: I get it with some cinnamon? 516 00:24:10,856 --> 00:24:13,416 Speaker 6: And she said no, we don't have that. 517 00:24:13,495 --> 00:24:16,176 Speaker 3: And he said, that's the last time I'm flying commercial 518 00:24:16,656 --> 00:24:20,295 Speaker 3: and so but it was like such a kind version 519 00:24:20,455 --> 00:24:22,495 Speaker 3: of a rich guy that I was like, dang, even 520 00:24:22,536 --> 00:24:25,016 Speaker 3: when Lionel tells us stories of being rich, like he's awesome. 521 00:24:25,336 --> 00:24:29,656 Speaker 3: But my favorite, favorite, favorite ever was we were about 522 00:24:29,656 --> 00:24:31,215 Speaker 3: to do an episode of Idol. I think it's my 523 00:24:31,296 --> 00:24:34,056 Speaker 3: second season there. And Ryan had never missed a show. 524 00:24:34,455 --> 00:24:38,896 Speaker 3: Ryan is on time all the time everywhere. The ultimate 525 00:24:38,936 --> 00:24:41,936 Speaker 3: professional is Ryan Seacrest. And it was about twelve minutes 526 00:24:41,936 --> 00:24:44,816 Speaker 3: before the show started and Ryan still was not there, 527 00:24:45,215 --> 00:24:49,455 Speaker 3: and so they began to be concerned and he quite like, 528 00:24:49,495 --> 00:24:53,255 Speaker 3: I'm sick. I can't even get up. And usually if 529 00:24:53,256 --> 00:24:55,136 Speaker 3: you're sick, and I've done this doing my stand up shows, 530 00:24:55,336 --> 00:24:58,056 Speaker 3: you you get a steroid shot. It takes a minute, 531 00:24:58,096 --> 00:24:59,575 Speaker 3: you get it back for a while, you got a 532 00:24:59,616 --> 00:25:02,416 Speaker 3: bunch of energy and then you die afterward, but you're 533 00:25:02,455 --> 00:25:03,536 Speaker 3: able to get the job done. 534 00:25:04,056 --> 00:25:04,495 Speaker 6: Ryan was. 535 00:25:04,656 --> 00:25:06,335 Speaker 3: He was so sick he was not able to do that. 536 00:25:06,816 --> 00:25:11,215 Speaker 3: So it's minutes before the show starts and they say, hey, Bobby, 537 00:25:11,296 --> 00:25:12,496 Speaker 3: we need you to host the show. 538 00:25:12,696 --> 00:25:12,856 Speaker 4: Now. 539 00:25:12,856 --> 00:25:14,616 Speaker 3: I don't think it's bigger than I am, but I 540 00:25:14,656 --> 00:25:16,136 Speaker 3: had no rehearsing as far as like where to go 541 00:25:16,215 --> 00:25:19,576 Speaker 3: on the stage. Stage direction is a big deal, especially 542 00:25:19,616 --> 00:25:22,256 Speaker 3: douring live television because cameras are going. It was also 543 00:25:22,256 --> 00:25:25,536 Speaker 3: a celebrity episode where celebrities were singing with the artists, 544 00:25:26,016 --> 00:25:28,735 Speaker 3: and so I'm like, okay, cool, can you run me 545 00:25:28,776 --> 00:25:30,176 Speaker 3: through stage direction real quick? 546 00:25:30,735 --> 00:25:31,896 Speaker 6: And they're like, got it. 547 00:25:32,336 --> 00:25:34,936 Speaker 3: So they run me through and there's like four minutes left, 548 00:25:34,975 --> 00:25:36,856 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I'm standing backstage. I'm just 549 00:25:36,896 --> 00:25:39,495 Speaker 3: kind of looking at notes and someone taps me on 550 00:25:39,536 --> 00:25:42,616 Speaker 3: the shoulder. Now, where the judges sit when we record 551 00:25:42,696 --> 00:25:45,015 Speaker 3: is all the way across the theater. I mean it 552 00:25:45,136 --> 00:25:49,575 Speaker 3: is a pretty far walk, and so it wasn't a 553 00:25:49,616 --> 00:25:52,856 Speaker 3: short walk. But that with about four minutes ago, that 554 00:25:52,896 --> 00:25:55,896 Speaker 3: tap on my shoulder turround and it's Lionel Richie and 555 00:25:56,416 --> 00:26:00,936 Speaker 3: he's like Bobby, and I say, hey, Linel, what's up. 556 00:26:00,936 --> 00:26:03,095 Speaker 3: He goes, I just wanted to give you some words 557 00:26:03,136 --> 00:26:07,616 Speaker 3: of encouragement. He goes, the year was nineteen seventy one, 558 00:26:08,256 --> 00:26:10,296 Speaker 3: and I'm in right, I know, we only got four minutes, 559 00:26:10,336 --> 00:26:12,815 Speaker 3: but he's talking slow. He's also talking slow, and I'm like, 560 00:26:12,975 --> 00:26:14,896 Speaker 3: oh boy, we're gonna get there in time. And he 561 00:26:14,936 --> 00:26:19,656 Speaker 3: says the Commodores. He goes, that was my band and 562 00:26:20,016 --> 00:26:22,136 Speaker 3: the Commodores we had. We had never really had a 563 00:26:22,136 --> 00:26:24,336 Speaker 3: look on national television. And we get a call and 564 00:26:24,376 --> 00:26:28,616 Speaker 3: they're like, they need you on American Bandstand in five hours. 565 00:26:28,656 --> 00:26:29,536 Speaker 6: Can you be there? 566 00:26:30,136 --> 00:26:33,176 Speaker 3: And we looked at each other and we're like, are 567 00:26:33,176 --> 00:26:35,376 Speaker 3: we ready for this? And we thought, we don't think 568 00:26:35,416 --> 00:26:37,416 Speaker 3: we're ready, but you know what, we're gonna show up 569 00:26:37,455 --> 00:26:39,376 Speaker 3: and we're gonna do it. And you know what, Bobby, 570 00:26:39,376 --> 00:26:44,215 Speaker 3: we showed up and we dominated that night on American Bandstand. 571 00:26:44,215 --> 00:26:45,856 Speaker 3: And that is a big reason as to why the 572 00:26:45,896 --> 00:26:49,096 Speaker 3: Commodores existed, and that's why Lionel Richie is right here 573 00:26:49,136 --> 00:26:52,535 Speaker 3: on this show, because when they called us, we showed 574 00:26:52,616 --> 00:26:54,295 Speaker 3: up and we did it to the best of our 575 00:26:54,336 --> 00:26:56,936 Speaker 3: ability what we had been practicing for our whole life. 576 00:26:57,056 --> 00:26:58,816 Speaker 3: And that is what you're about to do right now. 577 00:26:58,856 --> 00:27:00,255 Speaker 3: So I want you to walk out there and be 578 00:27:00,336 --> 00:27:03,696 Speaker 3: the commodores. And I'm thinking to myself as talking, this 579 00:27:03,735 --> 00:27:05,255 Speaker 3: is like the coolest pop up speech I've ever had 580 00:27:05,416 --> 00:27:07,455 Speaker 3: my whole life, Like, this is a crazy Lionel Richie. 581 00:27:07,536 --> 00:27:10,096 Speaker 3: And so it almost felt like a TV show, especially 582 00:27:10,096 --> 00:27:12,136 Speaker 3: those Christmas shows where Santa Claus is like talking to 583 00:27:12,176 --> 00:27:15,056 Speaker 3: somebody and they know Santa Claus is like Uncle Frank 584 00:27:15,136 --> 00:27:16,816 Speaker 3: or something. But then you turn around and Santa Claus 585 00:27:16,896 --> 00:27:18,896 Speaker 3: is gone, and you're like, maybe, oh, that was Santa Claus. 586 00:27:19,136 --> 00:27:20,696 Speaker 6: I turned around, there's no Lionel Richie. 587 00:27:20,735 --> 00:27:21,376 Speaker 4: He was nowhere. 588 00:27:21,495 --> 00:27:23,576 Speaker 3: I don't know how he he was over seventy years 589 00:27:23,576 --> 00:27:25,656 Speaker 3: old and he was gone. And I look back in 590 00:27:25,735 --> 00:27:28,336 Speaker 3: his bat is unreal. He's at the table. And I 591 00:27:28,376 --> 00:27:30,495 Speaker 3: walked out and did a great job. But he was 592 00:27:30,616 --> 00:27:34,535 Speaker 3: so giving, he was so kind, and he just was 593 00:27:34,616 --> 00:27:38,656 Speaker 3: the opposite of what you think someone that famous would be. 594 00:27:39,136 --> 00:27:41,576 Speaker 3: And after I left, idle and he's so famous, you 595 00:27:41,656 --> 00:27:44,376 Speaker 3: think he probably forgets everybody. It was like two years later, 596 00:27:44,376 --> 00:27:47,335 Speaker 3: we were both in Vegas and I get a text says, hey, 597 00:27:47,416 --> 00:27:48,616 Speaker 3: Lionel just saw on social media. 598 00:27:48,656 --> 00:27:49,176 Speaker 6: You're in Vegas. 599 00:27:49,215 --> 00:27:51,335 Speaker 3: You and your wife want to come over and go 600 00:27:51,376 --> 00:27:53,376 Speaker 3: meet up with him and his wife. And I was like, 601 00:27:53,735 --> 00:27:56,815 Speaker 3: first of all shocked, even remembered two years later. So 602 00:27:56,936 --> 00:28:00,136 Speaker 3: we did, and he remembered. It was awesome. I could 603 00:28:00,176 --> 00:28:02,056 Speaker 3: not say enough great things. He didn't wear a gold 604 00:28:02,056 --> 00:28:03,616 Speaker 3: thong in a bed, which would have been awesome. 605 00:28:03,656 --> 00:28:07,096 Speaker 6: That had been awesome. But Richie A plus. 606 00:28:07,696 --> 00:28:08,616 Speaker 4: That's solid. 607 00:28:08,696 --> 00:28:12,096 Speaker 5: I mean in the fact that you said he called in, 608 00:28:12,176 --> 00:28:14,776 Speaker 5: Seacres called it in how how long before the show? 609 00:28:14,896 --> 00:28:17,696 Speaker 3: Well, Seacres was trying to get there, So it wasn't 610 00:28:17,735 --> 00:28:20,896 Speaker 3: that he was like calling in going like disappeared, but 611 00:28:20,896 --> 00:28:22,656 Speaker 3: he was trying to like build it up so we 612 00:28:22,696 --> 00:28:24,855 Speaker 3: could go and do the show. But he finally was 613 00:28:25,096 --> 00:28:28,096 Speaker 3: not doing it at about twelve minutes before the show started. 614 00:28:29,896 --> 00:28:34,656 Speaker 5: Wow, yep, dude, that is you just have to kind 615 00:28:34,656 --> 00:28:36,416 Speaker 5: of gather yourself. I would think a little bit. You 616 00:28:36,416 --> 00:28:38,536 Speaker 5: didn't have any adrenaline or anything like that. You're like, 617 00:28:38,616 --> 00:28:40,096 Speaker 5: I got this be a commodore. 618 00:28:40,496 --> 00:28:42,176 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna put this back on you. 619 00:28:42,376 --> 00:28:44,456 Speaker 3: This is the same thing that happened. This is these 620 00:28:44,496 --> 00:28:46,976 Speaker 3: are our lives in parallel. That's the same thing that 621 00:28:46,976 --> 00:28:48,296 Speaker 3: happened to you and Brady bro. 622 00:28:49,616 --> 00:28:52,815 Speaker 5: True sayment, True sayment, Yeah, yeah, I was just I 623 00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:55,496 Speaker 5: was just thinking that okay, yeah, yeah, you prepare for it, 624 00:28:55,536 --> 00:28:57,496 Speaker 5: you're you feel like you're ready, but you don't know 625 00:28:57,576 --> 00:29:00,216 Speaker 5: until you know like your direction. You to go out 626 00:29:00,216 --> 00:29:02,096 Speaker 5: there and you're like, all right, let's go, let's do 627 00:29:02,136 --> 00:29:03,576 Speaker 5: it and see what happens. 628 00:29:03,616 --> 00:29:06,776 Speaker 3: And you just trust the process that what you've been 629 00:29:06,776 --> 00:29:09,256 Speaker 3: doing the whole time has led you to this place 630 00:29:09,616 --> 00:29:11,896 Speaker 3: to be able to perform at a level now. I 631 00:29:11,936 --> 00:29:13,696 Speaker 3: don't remember the first three or four minutes of it. 632 00:29:13,736 --> 00:29:15,536 Speaker 3: I think I kind of sem my blackground out. I 633 00:29:15,616 --> 00:29:18,496 Speaker 3: was just like, there were like three, two go, and 634 00:29:18,616 --> 00:29:20,656 Speaker 3: I was like, I remember starting on the prompter, my 635 00:29:20,696 --> 00:29:23,936 Speaker 3: first things were welcome to American Idol. I am not 636 00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:26,656 Speaker 3: Ryan Seacrest, and it wasn't even in the prompter, but 637 00:29:27,016 --> 00:29:29,456 Speaker 3: I said that, and then I don't remember the first 638 00:29:29,536 --> 00:29:30,936 Speaker 3: few minutes. And I think you said the same thing 639 00:29:30,936 --> 00:29:32,816 Speaker 3: about when you got in after Brady got heard. 640 00:29:33,176 --> 00:29:34,256 Speaker 4: It's just adrenaline, man. 641 00:29:34,336 --> 00:29:37,936 Speaker 5: You go in and all of a sudden they say, hey, Castle, 642 00:29:38,176 --> 00:29:41,176 Speaker 5: you're going in, and you can feel I felt my heartbeat, 643 00:29:41,296 --> 00:29:44,456 Speaker 5: felt the ears, and plus there's ninety thousand or whatever. 644 00:29:44,456 --> 00:29:47,736 Speaker 5: It was eighty ninety thousand people there sitting there going, man, 645 00:29:47,976 --> 00:29:48,616 Speaker 5: this sucks. 646 00:29:48,736 --> 00:29:52,536 Speaker 4: Castle's going in right, including myself. 647 00:29:52,616 --> 00:29:54,856 Speaker 5: So like you get through the whole first series is 648 00:29:54,856 --> 00:29:56,656 Speaker 5: a blur, and then all of a sudden you calm 649 00:29:56,656 --> 00:29:58,575 Speaker 5: yourself down a little bit and then you're starting to 650 00:29:58,576 --> 00:30:01,096 Speaker 5: get into sequence and you know, oh, this is football, 651 00:30:01,136 --> 00:30:03,296 Speaker 5: this is what I've been training for. But those first 652 00:30:03,496 --> 00:30:05,815 Speaker 5: that first series or first few minutes where you're just 653 00:30:06,536 --> 00:30:10,696 Speaker 5: overwhelmed by emotion really, and it's all about controlling those emotions. 654 00:30:10,696 --> 00:30:11,216 Speaker 4: It's wild. 655 00:30:11,456 --> 00:30:14,176 Speaker 3: Did you have a moment, because I did where before 656 00:30:14,176 --> 00:30:15,656 Speaker 3: we went on, I looked up and they have the 657 00:30:16,016 --> 00:30:18,656 Speaker 3: massive American Idol logo and that has been such a 658 00:30:18,696 --> 00:30:22,176 Speaker 3: big part of American pop culture for decades where I 659 00:30:22,176 --> 00:30:24,416 Speaker 3: looked at and I was like, man, for a second, 660 00:30:24,496 --> 00:30:26,136 Speaker 3: I just want to appreciate that this has been a 661 00:30:26,176 --> 00:30:28,456 Speaker 3: stable in American pop culture and I'm about to host this. 662 00:30:28,536 --> 00:30:29,976 Speaker 3: Did you ever have one of those moments, like your 663 00:30:29,976 --> 00:30:32,136 Speaker 3: first time in where you looked at something and we're like, huh, 664 00:30:32,136 --> 00:30:32,696 Speaker 3: this is real. 665 00:30:32,736 --> 00:30:34,016 Speaker 6: I want to take a second. It's going to be 666 00:30:34,056 --> 00:30:34,456 Speaker 6: real cool. 667 00:30:35,616 --> 00:30:37,936 Speaker 4: No, not at all. Mine was full fear factor. I 668 00:30:38,096 --> 00:30:39,256 Speaker 4: was like, just Sti'll mess it up. 669 00:30:39,696 --> 00:30:41,696 Speaker 5: I'm being dead honest, Like, I wish I could have 670 00:30:41,736 --> 00:30:44,496 Speaker 5: sat there and taken the moment in. I think the 671 00:30:44,536 --> 00:30:46,496 Speaker 5: first time I was able to do that was the 672 00:30:46,536 --> 00:30:49,096 Speaker 5: following game, and I told you this story where we 673 00:30:49,136 --> 00:30:52,656 Speaker 5: went to the Jets. We played them and ended up 674 00:30:52,656 --> 00:30:55,576 Speaker 5: being and Brett Favre was the opposing quarterback and he 675 00:30:55,616 --> 00:30:59,815 Speaker 5: came over shook my hand, and at that point, I 676 00:30:59,936 --> 00:31:00,416 Speaker 5: it kind. 677 00:31:00,256 --> 00:31:01,136 Speaker 4: Of came full circle. 678 00:31:01,176 --> 00:31:02,936 Speaker 5: I was like, that was one of the coolest moments 679 00:31:03,016 --> 00:31:05,896 Speaker 5: that's ever happened, like the fact that Bret far of 680 00:31:05,936 --> 00:31:08,456 Speaker 5: my childhood idol, came over and shook my hand. But 681 00:31:08,496 --> 00:31:10,536 Speaker 5: prior to that, no, I was a fish out of water. 682 00:31:10,576 --> 00:31:10,736 Speaker 7: Man. 683 00:31:10,736 --> 00:31:12,536 Speaker 4: I'm just like trying to stay afloat. Come on, Ben, 684 00:31:12,816 --> 00:31:14,056 Speaker 4: come on, give me some oxygen. 685 00:31:15,056 --> 00:31:17,736 Speaker 3: I got to meet Matt's wife, and because I hadn't 686 00:31:17,736 --> 00:31:20,256 Speaker 3: met your wife yet, but Matt and I have very 687 00:31:20,296 --> 00:31:22,256 Speaker 3: close mutual friends, which is part of the reason we're 688 00:31:22,256 --> 00:31:24,256 Speaker 3: doing the show together, because they like vouched to each 689 00:31:24,336 --> 00:31:25,376 Speaker 3: of us for each other. 690 00:31:25,896 --> 00:31:26,416 Speaker 6: And so. 691 00:31:27,936 --> 00:31:30,696 Speaker 3: I had a show at what's called the Rymann Auditorium 692 00:31:30,736 --> 00:31:32,656 Speaker 3: here in Nashville. It's a very legendary place, and I 693 00:31:32,696 --> 00:31:36,256 Speaker 3: got to meet your wife, and yeah, she looks like 694 00:31:36,336 --> 00:31:38,575 Speaker 3: she would destroy somebody on a volleyball court. Like she 695 00:31:38,656 --> 00:31:42,136 Speaker 3: looks an A plus athlete. I can tell just by 696 00:31:42,136 --> 00:31:42,816 Speaker 3: looking in her eyes. 697 00:31:43,616 --> 00:31:45,976 Speaker 5: She's definitely a better athlete than I am. She's definitely 698 00:31:45,976 --> 00:31:49,216 Speaker 5: more springy, just an absolute stud. And she's got one 699 00:31:49,256 --> 00:31:52,016 Speaker 5: of those personalities too, you know, like there's women that. 700 00:31:52,056 --> 00:31:52,656 Speaker 4: Like to work out. 701 00:31:52,696 --> 00:31:55,496 Speaker 5: She likes to get after it, and she she just 702 00:31:55,896 --> 00:31:57,575 Speaker 5: she could have been a Navy seal, I think, with 703 00:31:57,616 --> 00:32:01,296 Speaker 5: the mindset that she has. But she's always she's always 704 00:32:01,336 --> 00:32:03,576 Speaker 5: been a stud and really good mom too. But I 705 00:32:03,656 --> 00:32:05,856 Speaker 5: also got to meet your wife, who who couldn't have 706 00:32:05,856 --> 00:32:07,976 Speaker 5: been sweeter, And a lot of your family was there 707 00:32:08,016 --> 00:32:10,936 Speaker 5: as well. I mean, and let's talk about the raging 708 00:32:10,976 --> 00:32:13,776 Speaker 5: idiots for a second. I mean, you put on a 709 00:32:13,896 --> 00:32:16,815 Speaker 5: show like you wouldn't believe if you guys have never 710 00:32:16,856 --> 00:32:18,416 Speaker 5: seen Bobby and this crew. 711 00:32:18,696 --> 00:32:21,016 Speaker 4: I mean, you guys absolutely slaid. 712 00:32:21,456 --> 00:32:24,416 Speaker 6: Well, Okay, let's let's let's do that then for a second. 713 00:32:24,456 --> 00:32:26,696 Speaker 4: So can we get into that we can? 714 00:32:26,896 --> 00:32:30,816 Speaker 3: Yeah, phenomenal, Sure, sure, And I was super grateful you 715 00:32:30,816 --> 00:32:32,256 Speaker 3: came because I know you have a bunch of kids right, 716 00:32:32,256 --> 00:32:34,096 Speaker 3: if I've kids, So so that's it's not like you 717 00:32:34,096 --> 00:32:38,976 Speaker 3: can just leave at any moment. So, and it was 718 00:32:38,976 --> 00:32:40,816 Speaker 3: a Tuesday night and we do this show. 719 00:32:40,856 --> 00:32:43,256 Speaker 6: We've done it every year for ten years. 720 00:32:43,256 --> 00:32:45,336 Speaker 3: We had to stop for COVID for a minute, but 721 00:32:45,416 --> 00:32:47,136 Speaker 3: for Saint Jude, and we give all the money to 722 00:32:47,176 --> 00:32:50,256 Speaker 3: the hospital, and yeah, tell. 723 00:32:50,136 --> 00:32:52,216 Speaker 5: Them how much money you raised for Saint Jude's. It's 724 00:32:52,216 --> 00:32:53,176 Speaker 5: an incredible cause. 725 00:32:53,256 --> 00:32:56,856 Speaker 3: Well overall, like twenty seven million dollars. 726 00:32:56,856 --> 00:32:58,296 Speaker 4: Phenomenal, Yeah, phenomenal. 727 00:32:58,376 --> 00:32:59,056 Speaker 6: Yes, it's great. 728 00:32:59,136 --> 00:33:01,376 Speaker 3: And so we made, you know, some hundreds of thousands 729 00:33:01,456 --> 00:33:03,336 Speaker 3: that night, and we had a lot of friends show 730 00:33:03,416 --> 00:33:07,736 Speaker 3: up and play with us. But I guess I never 731 00:33:07,856 --> 00:33:10,816 Speaker 3: thought that you had never seen me in that element 732 00:33:11,216 --> 00:33:12,576 Speaker 3: because we've just done this together. 733 00:33:13,336 --> 00:33:14,056 Speaker 6: Was that weird? 734 00:33:14,376 --> 00:33:15,896 Speaker 3: Like I come out and I gotta have a guitar, 735 00:33:15,976 --> 00:33:17,416 Speaker 3: Like you don't know me as that at all? Like 736 00:33:17,456 --> 00:33:20,096 Speaker 3: the guy doing comedy? Was that a bit bizarre? 737 00:33:21,096 --> 00:33:22,616 Speaker 5: It was a little different, I mean, And then the 738 00:33:22,616 --> 00:33:25,736 Speaker 5: next thing I know, you're literally on stage headlining, just 739 00:33:25,936 --> 00:33:30,696 Speaker 5: rocking with the red the red jacket, red microphone, dancing 740 00:33:30,736 --> 00:33:32,736 Speaker 5: your face off. I didn't know you had those kind 741 00:33:32,736 --> 00:33:35,736 Speaker 5: of moves. And then you're busting out with the lyrics. 742 00:33:35,816 --> 00:33:38,896 Speaker 5: You might have burned I don't know, twenty thousand calories 743 00:33:38,976 --> 00:33:40,976 Speaker 5: just in that one night with as long as you've 744 00:33:40,976 --> 00:33:42,976 Speaker 5: been on stage dancing and singing. 745 00:33:42,656 --> 00:33:44,576 Speaker 4: And playing your guitar. It was incredible and you played 746 00:33:44,576 --> 00:33:45,136 Speaker 4: with everybody. 747 00:33:45,736 --> 00:33:47,496 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the hard part because I'm not what would 748 00:33:47,496 --> 00:33:50,096 Speaker 3: be a traditional musician, So for me to have to 749 00:33:50,176 --> 00:33:53,216 Speaker 3: learn a bunch of music, it is tough because I 750 00:33:53,256 --> 00:33:56,536 Speaker 3: play guitar, but I don't play guitar, and Nashville it's 751 00:33:56,616 --> 00:34:00,096 Speaker 3: the giants of music, right, so can I grab a guitar? 752 00:34:00,216 --> 00:34:02,736 Speaker 3: I just learned it so I can do comedy. But yeah, 753 00:34:02,776 --> 00:34:04,416 Speaker 3: it was a really fun show and if anybody's listened 754 00:34:04,416 --> 00:34:05,856 Speaker 3: to this, we'll do it again next year, probably at 755 00:34:05,856 --> 00:34:09,336 Speaker 3: the Ryman, and you should come. And I just thought 756 00:34:09,736 --> 00:34:12,176 Speaker 3: I would rather get in a fight with Matt than 757 00:34:12,976 --> 00:34:14,656 Speaker 3: his wife because I think she she would tear my 758 00:34:14,696 --> 00:34:18,136 Speaker 3: head off. Like very attractive, very feminine. But still I 759 00:34:18,216 --> 00:34:19,736 Speaker 3: was like, I can see why she was a pro, 760 00:34:20,096 --> 00:34:21,936 Speaker 3: like a volleyball player at that level. 761 00:34:22,936 --> 00:34:25,616 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's she's just stud What was your favorite act? 762 00:34:25,696 --> 00:34:26,416 Speaker 4: And I thought one of. 763 00:34:26,416 --> 00:34:29,576 Speaker 5: The funniest thing was when you had your glasses on 764 00:34:29,656 --> 00:34:30,656 Speaker 5: that was playing Otown. 765 00:34:31,696 --> 00:34:32,456 Speaker 6: It was so stupid. 766 00:34:32,616 --> 00:34:34,296 Speaker 4: I hate was one of the funniest things. 767 00:34:34,416 --> 00:34:37,096 Speaker 6: It wasn't it was. It was a funny it was 768 00:34:37,096 --> 00:34:37,496 Speaker 6: it funny. 769 00:34:37,576 --> 00:34:39,376 Speaker 3: So I do things that are supposed to be funny, 770 00:34:39,576 --> 00:34:42,576 Speaker 3: and like I do comedy stuff and I play comedy songs. 771 00:34:42,776 --> 00:34:44,815 Speaker 3: But and this wasn't supposed to be funny. I thought 772 00:34:44,856 --> 00:34:48,976 Speaker 3: I was having like schizophrenia because Otown. I used to 773 00:34:48,976 --> 00:34:50,776 Speaker 3: be in Otown the boy band way back in the day. 774 00:34:51,136 --> 00:34:54,456 Speaker 3: And so they came out, we reunited for the first 775 00:34:54,496 --> 00:34:59,096 Speaker 3: time in years, and afterward I kept hearing their music 776 00:34:59,496 --> 00:35:01,056 Speaker 3: and so I asked my band, do you guys hear 777 00:35:01,216 --> 00:35:03,016 Speaker 3: Then I asked the crowd do you guys hear their song? 778 00:35:03,416 --> 00:35:04,696 Speaker 3: And I was like no, no, no, And I'm like, 779 00:35:04,696 --> 00:35:07,496 Speaker 3: I'm hearing things. So I put my monitor back in 780 00:35:07,496 --> 00:35:08,335 Speaker 3: my ear. I don't hear anything. 781 00:35:08,376 --> 00:35:10,296 Speaker 6: I put my ear down on the monitor on the ground. 782 00:35:10,296 --> 00:35:11,016 Speaker 6: I don't hear anything. 783 00:35:11,136 --> 00:35:13,855 Speaker 3: We play another song, but the whole time anybody's playing anything, 784 00:35:13,896 --> 00:35:16,416 Speaker 3: I still hear the Otown song in my ear, and 785 00:35:16,456 --> 00:35:20,136 Speaker 3: I'm going I'm going berserik right now. Turns out I 786 00:35:20,136 --> 00:35:22,616 Speaker 3: have those meta glasses that take pictures and play music. 787 00:35:22,616 --> 00:35:24,616 Speaker 3: I didn't realize the music was playing through my glasses, 788 00:35:24,816 --> 00:35:26,296 Speaker 3: and that's why I was the only person that could 789 00:35:26,336 --> 00:35:28,176 Speaker 3: hear it, because I literally was the only person that 790 00:35:28,216 --> 00:35:29,776 Speaker 3: could hear it, and everybody else was. 791 00:35:29,736 --> 00:35:31,976 Speaker 6: Like, dude, you're going crazy. Yes, that sucked. 792 00:35:32,376 --> 00:35:36,256 Speaker 5: That was It probably sucked, but like from a show's standpoint, 793 00:35:36,336 --> 00:35:39,816 Speaker 5: I was just laughing myself going because everybody you asked that, 794 00:35:39,896 --> 00:35:41,696 Speaker 5: none of them were like, oh, I have no idea 795 00:35:41,696 --> 00:35:44,216 Speaker 5: what you're talking about, which probably made you feel even crazier. 796 00:35:44,296 --> 00:35:45,856 Speaker 3: Yeah, my whole band was like, we have I thought 797 00:35:45,896 --> 00:35:47,816 Speaker 3: they were playing a prank on me. I literally thought 798 00:35:47,816 --> 00:35:50,416 Speaker 3: they were playing a prank on me. So, uh yeah, 799 00:35:50,416 --> 00:35:50,576 Speaker 3: it was. 800 00:35:50,696 --> 00:35:54,576 Speaker 6: It was. It was a fun night, and yeah that's all. 801 00:35:54,856 --> 00:35:55,296 Speaker 6: I'm glad. 802 00:35:55,376 --> 00:35:57,016 Speaker 3: I'm glad it's over because we just want to pull 803 00:35:57,056 --> 00:35:59,576 Speaker 3: it off and we did, and I appreciate everybody who 804 00:35:59,616 --> 00:36:02,136 Speaker 3: came out. And we're gonna take a little break when 805 00:36:02,136 --> 00:36:05,216 Speaker 3: we come back. We're gonna do something called big Take, 806 00:36:05,496 --> 00:36:07,256 Speaker 3: Big fake. And so I'm going to give you an opinion. 807 00:36:07,616 --> 00:36:09,855 Speaker 3: Either it is my opinion, this is my big take, 808 00:36:10,416 --> 00:36:12,976 Speaker 3: or it is not my opinion. And I'm just trying 809 00:36:13,016 --> 00:36:15,656 Speaker 3: to convince you it is. We're gonna play big take 810 00:36:15,696 --> 00:36:33,496 Speaker 3: or big fake. We'll do that next. So this is 811 00:36:33,536 --> 00:36:35,376 Speaker 3: called big take or big fake. So what I'll do, 812 00:36:35,416 --> 00:36:38,056 Speaker 3: Matt is I will give you an opinion and you 813 00:36:38,136 --> 00:36:40,736 Speaker 3: tell me if I really believe it or if I 814 00:36:40,736 --> 00:36:42,256 Speaker 3: really don't believe it, and I'm just trying to. 815 00:36:42,256 --> 00:36:43,456 Speaker 6: Fake you out. Are you ready? 816 00:36:43,536 --> 00:36:43,856 Speaker 4: Okay? 817 00:36:44,896 --> 00:36:49,496 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is and will be a Pro Bowl quarterback? 818 00:36:49,616 --> 00:36:50,496 Speaker 6: Do you think I believe that? 819 00:36:51,536 --> 00:36:53,936 Speaker 5: I do think you believe that because I've heard you 820 00:36:53,976 --> 00:36:55,696 Speaker 5: talk about Daniel Jones and I know you have an 821 00:36:55,736 --> 00:37:00,216 Speaker 5: affinity for him. So you and I have had a 822 00:37:00,216 --> 00:37:03,816 Speaker 5: little bit of discussions before about just situational fit for 823 00:37:03,896 --> 00:37:07,056 Speaker 5: him with the Giants. He thought he got a raw deal, 824 00:37:07,216 --> 00:37:10,416 Speaker 5: but he's a guy that's capable from the physical standpoint 825 00:37:10,416 --> 00:37:11,936 Speaker 5: to go out there and get it done. And he's 826 00:37:11,936 --> 00:37:14,336 Speaker 5: played well at different times in his career. But you 827 00:37:14,416 --> 00:37:17,256 Speaker 5: put him in the right situation and he's somebody that 828 00:37:17,536 --> 00:37:19,416 Speaker 5: has the skill set to go out and be a 829 00:37:19,456 --> 00:37:20,216 Speaker 5: Pro Bowl quarterback. 830 00:37:20,296 --> 00:37:23,496 Speaker 4: So I do believe that you believe that. 831 00:37:23,496 --> 00:37:26,016 Speaker 3: That is a big correct take. And here is why 832 00:37:26,416 --> 00:37:29,656 Speaker 3: now we're still waiting on again as of this recording, 833 00:37:29,656 --> 00:37:31,856 Speaker 3: because everything is so fluid. If he ends up with 834 00:37:31,896 --> 00:37:36,216 Speaker 3: the Colts, he'll start. Yeah, if he ends up with 835 00:37:36,416 --> 00:37:40,656 Speaker 3: the Vikings, depending on McCarthy's injury, JJ McCarthy's injury, he 836 00:37:41,136 --> 00:37:41,776 Speaker 3: may play. 837 00:37:42,056 --> 00:37:43,096 Speaker 6: And right now those are. 838 00:37:42,976 --> 00:37:46,376 Speaker 3: The two teams that they're indicating he could sign with. 839 00:37:46,576 --> 00:37:48,616 Speaker 3: But I mean, when you look at and I went deep, 840 00:37:48,976 --> 00:37:51,736 Speaker 3: he played behind one of the worst offensive lines in 841 00:37:51,776 --> 00:37:54,296 Speaker 3: the NFL, not only last year, but the year before. 842 00:37:54,296 --> 00:37:56,696 Speaker 3: He got seck thirty times in six games before towards 843 00:37:56,696 --> 00:38:01,656 Speaker 3: ACL And yeah, so not only was he getting crushed, 844 00:38:01,656 --> 00:38:05,616 Speaker 3: he then had the ACL injury in twenty twenty two 845 00:38:05,696 --> 00:38:10,216 Speaker 3: and dables first season. Listen to the stats that Daniel 846 00:38:10,296 --> 00:38:13,696 Speaker 3: Jones had two hundred and five passing yards, a sixty 847 00:38:13,816 --> 00:38:18,456 Speaker 3: seven point two percent completion rate, fifteen touchdowns, five interceptions, 848 00:38:18,656 --> 00:38:21,936 Speaker 3: seven hundred eight rushing yards, and seven rushing touchdowns. He 849 00:38:21,976 --> 00:38:24,496 Speaker 3: took the Giants to the playoffs and won a playoff game. 850 00:38:24,896 --> 00:38:26,656 Speaker 3: That's when he was healthy. 851 00:38:27,896 --> 00:38:28,256 Speaker 6: That's it. 852 00:38:28,256 --> 00:38:30,176 Speaker 3: That's just when he was healthy. There's nothing else to say. 853 00:38:30,576 --> 00:38:33,416 Speaker 3: I just think he is a much better quarterback than 854 00:38:33,496 --> 00:38:35,816 Speaker 3: people are giving him credit for. But it's hard to 855 00:38:35,816 --> 00:38:38,096 Speaker 3: give somebody credit when they haven't played well. Or they've 856 00:38:38,096 --> 00:38:40,816 Speaker 3: been injured, because we don't really see how bad an 857 00:38:40,856 --> 00:38:43,816 Speaker 3: offensive line is just by watching on television. 858 00:38:43,616 --> 00:38:46,056 Speaker 5: Right, and the offensive line is everything to a quarterbback 859 00:38:46,096 --> 00:38:48,496 Speaker 5: because if you drop back and you trust the guys 860 00:38:48,536 --> 00:38:51,696 Speaker 5: in front of you, then your process isn't sped up. 861 00:38:51,936 --> 00:38:55,336 Speaker 5: Your sense of urgency is you're going through your reads 862 00:38:55,336 --> 00:38:56,776 Speaker 5: like you should, but all of a sudden you're getting 863 00:38:56,816 --> 00:39:00,016 Speaker 5: hit and hit and hit. Well, all those things change, 864 00:39:00,136 --> 00:39:01,936 Speaker 5: especially from the mental side because you're a little bit 865 00:39:01,936 --> 00:39:04,336 Speaker 5: more rushed, or you take off run maybe when you 866 00:39:04,376 --> 00:39:05,936 Speaker 5: have to hang in there a little bit longer. But 867 00:39:06,416 --> 00:39:09,856 Speaker 5: those hits have an impact on a quarterback, and so 868 00:39:10,056 --> 00:39:12,576 Speaker 5: you put him with the good offensive line, good coaching staff, 869 00:39:12,776 --> 00:39:14,855 Speaker 5: I think he'll excel in a big way. 870 00:39:15,296 --> 00:39:17,656 Speaker 3: And if he does play with the Vikings, I think 871 00:39:17,696 --> 00:39:20,616 Speaker 3: he's just on a we'll call it a one year 872 00:39:20,816 --> 00:39:22,576 Speaker 3: Sam Donald plan where even if he goes in and 873 00:39:22,616 --> 00:39:25,776 Speaker 3: backs them up, the same thing Donald did in San Francisco, 874 00:39:26,096 --> 00:39:28,816 Speaker 3: which I think was kind of the plan in Minnesota 875 00:39:28,856 --> 00:39:31,216 Speaker 3: as well. Maybe he started a bit before J. J. 876 00:39:31,296 --> 00:39:33,336 Speaker 3: McCarthy was able to play, But I mean, these guys 877 00:39:33,416 --> 00:39:38,896 Speaker 3: get behind an offensive minded head coach that actually allows 878 00:39:38,936 --> 00:39:41,336 Speaker 3: them to develop and then they go and play really 879 00:39:41,336 --> 00:39:44,216 Speaker 3: well afterward. So I'm excited for Daniel Jones. I never 880 00:39:44,256 --> 00:39:45,776 Speaker 3: met him, but I've been rooting for him and I 881 00:39:45,776 --> 00:39:49,136 Speaker 3: feel like he if he has given the right weapons 882 00:39:49,136 --> 00:39:51,416 Speaker 3: and I'll say weapons, even his offensive lineman, like he 883 00:39:51,456 --> 00:39:52,815 Speaker 3: has proven he's been really good. 884 00:39:52,856 --> 00:39:53,176 Speaker 4: All right. 885 00:39:53,216 --> 00:39:53,616 Speaker 6: Next up? 886 00:39:53,856 --> 00:39:56,696 Speaker 3: Is this a big take or a big fake? Dake 887 00:39:56,776 --> 00:39:59,896 Speaker 3: Prescott will never win a Super Bowl with the Dallas Cowboys. 888 00:40:00,416 --> 00:40:03,056 Speaker 4: That's a big take. I think that you believe that. 889 00:40:04,656 --> 00:40:07,376 Speaker 5: They have improved since the nineteen nineties that they can 890 00:40:07,576 --> 00:40:11,816 Speaker 5: one go deep in the playoffs, let alone win the 891 00:40:11,856 --> 00:40:15,096 Speaker 5: super Bowl. It's challenging for every team every single year. 892 00:40:15,136 --> 00:40:18,416 Speaker 5: But you're also in a division with the Eagles, right, 893 00:40:18,456 --> 00:40:22,736 Speaker 5: You're also in a conference that you're not a top 894 00:40:22,816 --> 00:40:25,496 Speaker 5: contender year in year out. Now you have your good years, 895 00:40:25,736 --> 00:40:28,296 Speaker 5: and I think that they're always competitive. I just don't 896 00:40:28,336 --> 00:40:31,456 Speaker 5: know if it's going to be under Dak Prescott during 897 00:40:31,456 --> 00:40:33,216 Speaker 5: his tenure there. I hope it is, because I think 898 00:40:33,216 --> 00:40:35,016 Speaker 5: he's a heck of a player, There's no doubt about it. 899 00:40:35,056 --> 00:40:36,416 Speaker 5: I just don't know if he'll be able to get 900 00:40:36,416 --> 00:40:36,976 Speaker 5: over that home. 901 00:40:37,136 --> 00:40:39,776 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Dak's a really good quarterback as well. 902 00:40:40,296 --> 00:40:44,536 Speaker 3: He is still even after Josh Allen's new contract, making 903 00:40:44,576 --> 00:40:46,815 Speaker 3: more per year than Josh Allen. Dak's still the highest 904 00:40:46,816 --> 00:40:49,616 Speaker 3: play quarterback at sixty million a year. And I don't 905 00:40:49,616 --> 00:40:52,016 Speaker 3: think it's totally because of Dak. You're right, it's another 906 00:40:52,016 --> 00:40:53,896 Speaker 3: big take. All these may be true, by the way, 907 00:40:53,896 --> 00:40:56,536 Speaker 3: there is no rhyme or reason. But he's been the 908 00:40:56,656 --> 00:40:58,896 Speaker 3: Cowboys quarterback for eight seasons. He's not made an NFC 909 00:40:58,976 --> 00:41:03,576 Speaker 3: Championship game. The Cowboys dominate for the most part in 910 00:41:03,616 --> 00:41:06,816 Speaker 3: the regular season, and it's been a Cowboys pattern at 911 00:41:06,816 --> 00:41:07,296 Speaker 3: this point. 912 00:41:07,536 --> 00:41:08,976 Speaker 6: His playoff records two and five. 913 00:41:09,376 --> 00:41:12,216 Speaker 3: The Cowboys, as you mentioned, have had a Super Bowl 914 00:41:12,296 --> 00:41:14,896 Speaker 3: drought of thirty years. And it's not so much a 915 00:41:14,976 --> 00:41:17,296 Speaker 3: Dak thing but a Jerry Jones thing. And I love 916 00:41:17,376 --> 00:41:21,456 Speaker 3: Jerry Jones. But if we're just looking at the data 917 00:41:21,496 --> 00:41:25,536 Speaker 3: that has been presented to us in a vacuum. 918 00:41:25,016 --> 00:41:27,536 Speaker 6: And with they're about to have to pay. 919 00:41:28,696 --> 00:41:32,176 Speaker 3: They paid Dak, they paid CD, they got Michael Parsons 920 00:41:32,176 --> 00:41:34,536 Speaker 3: to pay, and to pay him is going to be 921 00:41:34,656 --> 00:41:39,096 Speaker 3: even more expensive now that you've had Max Crosby and 922 00:41:39,456 --> 00:41:40,576 Speaker 3: you also had. 923 00:41:42,336 --> 00:41:43,616 Speaker 6: Miles Garrett just signed for that money. 924 00:41:43,616 --> 00:41:45,336 Speaker 3: So his value just went up, and they've been waiting, 925 00:41:45,656 --> 00:41:48,096 Speaker 3: just been like kicking the can on signing him, I know. 926 00:41:48,216 --> 00:41:50,376 Speaker 5: And that's the thing is when you wait and then 927 00:41:50,496 --> 00:41:54,216 Speaker 5: you start to see these big contracts roll through, it 928 00:41:54,296 --> 00:41:57,616 Speaker 5: actually hurts the organization because Mike could Parson I guarantee 929 00:41:57,616 --> 00:42:01,256 Speaker 5: his representation sitting there and going, look at these two guys. 930 00:42:01,656 --> 00:42:04,616 Speaker 5: I'm younger than both of them. I've got a lot 931 00:42:04,656 --> 00:42:07,456 Speaker 5: more in the tank. You're going to be up there 932 00:42:07,776 --> 00:42:09,896 Speaker 5: in that area right there. So it's going to cost 933 00:42:09,896 --> 00:42:11,776 Speaker 5: the more money Now that they waited and drag their 934 00:42:11,816 --> 00:42:12,736 Speaker 5: feet onsign him. 935 00:42:13,016 --> 00:42:16,696 Speaker 3: The Steelers should move on from Mike Tomlin. He cannot 936 00:42:16,696 --> 00:42:19,136 Speaker 3: win the big games anymore. Is that a real take 937 00:42:19,256 --> 00:42:20,136 Speaker 3: or is that a big fake? 938 00:42:20,896 --> 00:42:23,656 Speaker 5: I believe it's a big fake. The reason I say 939 00:42:23,696 --> 00:42:25,976 Speaker 5: that I love Mike Tomlin. I think he's been one 940 00:42:26,016 --> 00:42:29,496 Speaker 5: of the most successful coaches during his tenure of any 941 00:42:29,536 --> 00:42:31,656 Speaker 5: coach in the NFL. And I don't know what the 942 00:42:31,736 --> 00:42:34,056 Speaker 5: run was for the playoffs in terms of how many 943 00:42:34,056 --> 00:42:37,096 Speaker 5: consecutive playoffs he's gone to, but he's already proven. 944 00:42:37,016 --> 00:42:40,256 Speaker 4: That he's been able to win big games. I think 945 00:42:40,296 --> 00:42:40,696 Speaker 4: for him. 946 00:42:40,736 --> 00:42:45,056 Speaker 5: Also, anytime you lose your franchise quarterback of Roethlisberger, for instance, 947 00:42:45,336 --> 00:42:47,696 Speaker 5: it takes some time to find that next guy. From 948 00:42:47,776 --> 00:42:51,136 Speaker 5: Kenny Pickett, you bring in Russell Wilson, you have justin fields. 949 00:42:51,136 --> 00:42:52,896 Speaker 5: You've got a number of different guys that come into 950 00:42:52,896 --> 00:42:54,896 Speaker 5: that organization that don't fit the mold to be your 951 00:42:54,936 --> 00:42:57,456 Speaker 5: franchise guy. Well, it's hard to win games in this league, 952 00:42:57,536 --> 00:43:01,456 Speaker 5: let alone win games consistently when you don't have a 953 00:43:01,496 --> 00:43:03,776 Speaker 5: real number one at the quarterback position. If they're able 954 00:43:03,856 --> 00:43:07,576 Speaker 5: to solidify that position, I think Mike Tomlin, we've known 955 00:43:07,776 --> 00:43:10,416 Speaker 5: his track record and the type of defensive unit that 956 00:43:10,456 --> 00:43:13,576 Speaker 5: they consistently have. If the offense catches up with that, 957 00:43:13,736 --> 00:43:15,776 Speaker 5: I believe that they put themselves in another position to 958 00:43:15,816 --> 00:43:16,656 Speaker 5: win a championship. 959 00:43:16,736 --> 00:43:18,816 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't believe that at all. I like you 960 00:43:18,816 --> 00:43:21,536 Speaker 3: think Mike Tomlin is a fantastic coach, and I think 961 00:43:21,536 --> 00:43:25,296 Speaker 3: he's had teams that probably in any other scenario probably 962 00:43:25,336 --> 00:43:28,416 Speaker 3: win four games, five games, but because he has such 963 00:43:28,416 --> 00:43:30,776 Speaker 3: a great coach. But again, it lends itself to if 964 00:43:30,776 --> 00:43:33,736 Speaker 3: you do not have a quarterback, if you do not 965 00:43:33,936 --> 00:43:39,136 Speaker 3: have a B B plus a quarterback, it's going to 966 00:43:39,176 --> 00:43:40,656 Speaker 3: be hard to win. 967 00:43:40,656 --> 00:43:42,296 Speaker 6: Enough games to make a deep run. 968 00:43:42,496 --> 00:43:44,256 Speaker 3: I think because he has had a lack of a 969 00:43:44,336 --> 00:43:49,816 Speaker 3: number one since Big Ben that it's been award winning 970 00:43:49,896 --> 00:43:52,416 Speaker 3: coaching that has gotten them to five hundred and above 971 00:43:52,456 --> 00:43:56,856 Speaker 3: every single year. But the problem has been that purgatory, right, 972 00:43:56,896 --> 00:43:59,256 Speaker 3: I mean, if you don't lose a lot of games, 973 00:43:59,656 --> 00:44:01,936 Speaker 3: you're not going to get a top pick unless you 974 00:44:02,056 --> 00:44:06,576 Speaker 3: trade for it, or therefore you can't win a lot 975 00:44:06,616 --> 00:44:10,296 Speaker 3: of games because you don't have the personnel to win 976 00:44:10,336 --> 00:44:10,776 Speaker 3: the games. 977 00:44:10,776 --> 00:44:12,176 Speaker 6: So he's been in this weird purgatory. 978 00:44:12,216 --> 00:44:15,376 Speaker 3: But it would be nice to see him get a quarterback, 979 00:44:15,456 --> 00:44:17,136 Speaker 3: Like even if it's Aaron Rodgers and I cannot stand 980 00:44:17,176 --> 00:44:19,216 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, used to love him. Like nine months ago, 981 00:44:19,216 --> 00:44:22,176 Speaker 3: I loved Aaron Rodgers like I like outspoken people. 982 00:44:22,616 --> 00:44:24,176 Speaker 6: I do, even if I don't agree with them. 983 00:44:24,936 --> 00:44:28,976 Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like he got he started acting like 984 00:44:29,016 --> 00:44:31,096 Speaker 3: he was smarter than everybody instead of just being smarter 985 00:44:31,216 --> 00:44:34,496 Speaker 3: than most people. So therefore I started to not like 986 00:44:34,576 --> 00:44:37,296 Speaker 3: him as much, not even what he was saying, just 987 00:44:37,336 --> 00:44:41,136 Speaker 3: for like how he seemed. So I've been an Aaron 988 00:44:41,216 --> 00:44:44,616 Speaker 3: Rodgers guy I would like, even though I'm not anymore. 989 00:44:44,616 --> 00:44:46,256 Speaker 3: I would like Aaron Rodgers to go to the Steelers. 990 00:44:46,256 --> 00:44:47,816 Speaker 3: I think that would be cool, even though I picked 991 00:44:47,816 --> 00:44:50,336 Speaker 3: the Giants, and to have Mike Tomlin have a shot 992 00:44:50,456 --> 00:44:53,976 Speaker 3: at having an offense that can actually win him games, 993 00:44:54,216 --> 00:44:56,896 Speaker 3: not a defense that needs to win him games where 994 00:44:56,936 --> 00:44:59,896 Speaker 3: you just beg the offense to not lose you games. 995 00:44:59,816 --> 00:45:02,256 Speaker 5: Right Exactly, When you have a defense that can go 996 00:45:02,296 --> 00:45:04,456 Speaker 5: out and play the way that they do, they're always 997 00:45:04,536 --> 00:45:06,336 Speaker 5: going to be in tight, tight games. But then all 998 00:45:06,336 --> 00:45:08,016 Speaker 5: of a sudden you put a guy like Aaron Rodgers 999 00:45:08,016 --> 00:45:10,016 Speaker 5: in there with the dudes that they have with Medcat 1000 00:45:10,056 --> 00:45:13,416 Speaker 5: and pick Medcalf and Pickens and somebody that can deliver 1001 00:45:13,456 --> 00:45:14,176 Speaker 5: the ball and get. 1002 00:45:14,056 --> 00:45:17,056 Speaker 4: Up two scores. That's a tough football team to beat. 1003 00:45:17,376 --> 00:45:19,256 Speaker 5: When you're not just grinding it out, you know that 1004 00:45:19,296 --> 00:45:21,376 Speaker 5: you have confidence in that offense side of the ball 1005 00:45:21,416 --> 00:45:23,336 Speaker 5: to take the take the ball down the field and 1006 00:45:23,336 --> 00:45:26,656 Speaker 5: score on a continuous basis. That's that's when it gets 1007 00:45:26,656 --> 00:45:30,576 Speaker 5: fun for any team because you've got talent on both 1008 00:45:30,576 --> 00:45:32,016 Speaker 5: sides of the ball and you can compete at really 1009 00:45:32,056 --> 00:45:40,536 Speaker 5: high level with anybody. 1010 00:45:48,776 --> 00:45:51,256 Speaker 3: If I were to ask you when talking about wide receivers, 1011 00:45:51,416 --> 00:45:54,256 Speaker 3: talking about Pittsburgh specifically, and you have Pickens and you 1012 00:45:54,296 --> 00:45:58,056 Speaker 3: have DK different kinds of receivers, but both elite. But 1013 00:45:58,136 --> 00:46:00,296 Speaker 3: if I were to say, who were the grittiest wide 1014 00:46:00,376 --> 00:46:02,496 Speaker 3: receivers you ever played with? And you can define gritty 1015 00:46:02,496 --> 00:46:06,136 Speaker 3: however you want, Like who would be your top three? 1016 00:46:06,256 --> 00:46:09,616 Speaker 5: You know, I think in two thousand and seven when 1017 00:46:09,736 --> 00:46:11,336 Speaker 5: or two thousand and eight when I was in New England, 1018 00:46:11,376 --> 00:46:14,376 Speaker 5: I mean Randy Moss was there, and that dude was 1019 00:46:14,816 --> 00:46:17,056 Speaker 5: nobody could go up and out compete him for a ball. 1020 00:46:17,056 --> 00:46:19,776 Speaker 5: He had incredible hands, He scared you with his speed. 1021 00:46:20,096 --> 00:46:22,656 Speaker 5: He was a really smart football player. Another guy that 1022 00:46:22,816 --> 00:46:24,776 Speaker 5: was there at the same time is Wes Wilker, which 1023 00:46:24,776 --> 00:46:26,616 Speaker 5: I don't think he gets enough credit. He had five 1024 00:46:26,656 --> 00:46:30,336 Speaker 5: seasons with over one hundred and something catches, and he's 1025 00:46:30,336 --> 00:46:31,776 Speaker 5: a guy that controlled the middle field. 1026 00:46:31,776 --> 00:46:34,056 Speaker 4: Nobody could cover him man to man underneath. 1027 00:46:34,176 --> 00:46:37,096 Speaker 5: Smart player would go over the middle, take the tough hits, 1028 00:46:37,696 --> 00:46:40,776 Speaker 5: and he would sacrifice his body more than you'd like 1029 00:46:40,856 --> 00:46:43,936 Speaker 5: him to. But at the same time, I mean, nobody 1030 00:46:43,936 --> 00:46:46,536 Speaker 5: could cover him. So those guys both when you say gritty, 1031 00:46:46,536 --> 00:46:48,856 Speaker 5: A guy like Dez Bryant, who was only with for 1032 00:46:48,896 --> 00:46:51,696 Speaker 5: one season in Dallas. 1033 00:46:51,856 --> 00:46:54,856 Speaker 4: He's another guy that was just this absolute dog on 1034 00:46:54,896 --> 00:46:55,296 Speaker 4: the field. 1035 00:46:55,336 --> 00:46:58,096 Speaker 5: Now, he would definitely get after me if I didn't 1036 00:46:58,136 --> 00:46:58,936 Speaker 5: throw him the ball. 1037 00:46:59,216 --> 00:47:01,856 Speaker 4: I was scared for my life. I'm not gonna lie. 1038 00:47:01,976 --> 00:47:04,136 Speaker 5: I was sitting there going, man, he might try to 1039 00:47:04,296 --> 00:47:06,376 Speaker 5: hurt me, like on the sideline right now. 1040 00:47:06,576 --> 00:47:08,576 Speaker 4: So he was just one of those dudes. Now, he 1041 00:47:08,656 --> 00:47:11,296 Speaker 4: had some injuries early in that season. 1042 00:47:11,336 --> 00:47:13,176 Speaker 5: He had like a stress fraction in his foot, so 1043 00:47:13,296 --> 00:47:17,016 Speaker 5: he wasn't fully himself, which I know for any player 1044 00:47:17,056 --> 00:47:20,616 Speaker 5: that competes at a really high level, that's super frustrating 1045 00:47:20,656 --> 00:47:22,976 Speaker 5: because he was used to just absolutely going out there 1046 00:47:22,976 --> 00:47:24,736 Speaker 5: and dominating. But it took some time for him to 1047 00:47:24,776 --> 00:47:28,016 Speaker 5: get back from that injury, obviously with the foot to heel. 1048 00:47:28,896 --> 00:47:31,176 Speaker 4: Dwayne Bow, he's another guy that was a dog. 1049 00:47:31,216 --> 00:47:33,696 Speaker 5: Now, he was different from a gritty standpoint because he 1050 00:47:33,776 --> 00:47:36,736 Speaker 5: was just big and physical and without physical you. 1051 00:47:37,136 --> 00:47:39,536 Speaker 4: But he was the nicest guy. Now. 1052 00:47:39,576 --> 00:47:41,656 Speaker 5: He'd tell me sometimes he'd be like, hey, Cass, I 1053 00:47:41,696 --> 00:47:43,016 Speaker 5: was open on that and I'd look at the picture. 1054 00:47:43,056 --> 00:47:45,936 Speaker 5: I'd be like, Dwayne, there's two guys over you in 1055 00:47:45,936 --> 00:47:47,176 Speaker 5: the safeties, way above you. 1056 00:47:47,216 --> 00:47:48,296 Speaker 4: I'm not going to throw you that ball. 1057 00:47:48,296 --> 00:47:50,976 Speaker 5: Ever, He's like, all right, Cass, just just look next time. 1058 00:47:51,096 --> 00:47:53,296 Speaker 4: So he was cool like that, but he was a 1059 00:47:53,336 --> 00:47:54,296 Speaker 4: savage on the field. 1060 00:47:54,336 --> 00:47:58,256 Speaker 5: So I've played with a lot of ultra talented wide 1061 00:47:58,336 --> 00:48:00,896 Speaker 5: receivers that had that gritty nature, and I think that 1062 00:48:00,896 --> 00:48:03,496 Speaker 5: that just kind of goes with the position itself. If 1063 00:48:03,496 --> 00:48:07,456 Speaker 5: you're an elite wide receiver, then you have something inside 1064 00:48:07,496 --> 00:48:10,536 Speaker 5: of you that is like, give me the ball and 1065 00:48:10,736 --> 00:48:13,056 Speaker 5: I'll I'll compete anybody that's up against me, I don't 1066 00:48:13,096 --> 00:48:13,736 Speaker 5: care who it is. 1067 00:48:14,296 --> 00:48:16,656 Speaker 3: Was Moss the guy you mostly could just go, well, 1068 00:48:16,856 --> 00:48:19,496 Speaker 3: can't even really see him, but I know where he's 1069 00:48:19,576 --> 00:48:20,536 Speaker 3: kind of supposed to be. 1070 00:48:20,856 --> 00:48:23,696 Speaker 5: Throw one hundred percent. You just throw it in his area. 1071 00:48:23,776 --> 00:48:26,136 Speaker 5: I remember the first touchdown passed I through that season. 1072 00:48:26,536 --> 00:48:29,496 Speaker 5: I skyrocketed this thing nobody. I didn't think anybody was 1073 00:48:29,496 --> 00:48:31,416 Speaker 5: going to catch it. I thought the first section in 1074 00:48:31,456 --> 00:48:33,296 Speaker 5: the stadium was going to catch it. He goes up, 1075 00:48:33,896 --> 00:48:36,176 Speaker 5: points it, boom, brings it down. I was like, Oh, 1076 00:48:36,296 --> 00:48:38,256 Speaker 5: what a good play by me. No, it was a 1077 00:48:38,256 --> 00:48:41,216 Speaker 5: better play by you, Moss. Oh this is a funny story. Actually, 1078 00:48:41,256 --> 00:48:44,456 Speaker 5: Moss is another dude. As I talk about him constantly 1079 00:48:44,496 --> 00:48:46,576 Speaker 5: because a lot of people don't understand how smart he was. 1080 00:48:46,576 --> 00:48:49,376 Speaker 5: But we're playing Seattle in Seattle, We get in the 1081 00:48:49,416 --> 00:48:52,376 Speaker 5: huddle and Moss is on the outside and he's like, 1082 00:48:52,896 --> 00:48:55,376 Speaker 5: we're about to start the series. So we're all in 1083 00:48:55,376 --> 00:48:56,976 Speaker 5: the huddle and Moss never wanted to look at the 1084 00:48:57,016 --> 00:48:58,776 Speaker 5: quarterback because he never wanted to give anything away. So 1085 00:48:58,816 --> 00:49:01,736 Speaker 5: he starts talking to me. He's like, Cass, He's like, hey, 1086 00:49:01,776 --> 00:49:03,416 Speaker 5: I'm going up the rail. Just throw it up the rail. 1087 00:49:03,776 --> 00:49:05,856 Speaker 5: They're sitting on me, they're squatting on me, and I 1088 00:49:05,896 --> 00:49:08,296 Speaker 5: was like, you've got an D cut on this play. 1089 00:49:08,296 --> 00:49:09,936 Speaker 5: He's like, no, I'm going up the rail. I was like, well, 1090 00:49:09,936 --> 00:49:10,896 Speaker 5: why don't we talk about when. 1091 00:49:10,776 --> 00:49:13,936 Speaker 4: We go over there? And he got so mad. He's like, Castle, 1092 00:49:14,216 --> 00:49:15,376 Speaker 4: Brady was here. 1093 00:49:15,056 --> 00:49:18,296 Speaker 5: We throw that at the ring and I was like, well, 1094 00:49:18,296 --> 00:49:21,136 Speaker 5: Brady ain't here, he said, and then that's so he 1095 00:49:21,336 --> 00:49:22,976 Speaker 5: didn't look at me that entire conversation. 1096 00:49:23,016 --> 00:49:24,816 Speaker 4: As soon as I said that, he said, what the 1097 00:49:24,936 --> 00:49:26,136 Speaker 4: F did you say to me? Castle? 1098 00:49:26,176 --> 00:49:27,456 Speaker 5: I thought he was going to try to kill me 1099 00:49:27,536 --> 00:49:29,816 Speaker 5: in the huddle. The lineman broke it up. I was like, 1100 00:49:29,856 --> 00:49:32,016 Speaker 5: this is amazing. But it was just one of those 1101 00:49:32,056 --> 00:49:34,056 Speaker 5: things where he knew what he wanted to get done, 1102 00:49:34,096 --> 00:49:36,016 Speaker 5: and a lot of times we'd go over make that 1103 00:49:36,056 --> 00:49:38,256 Speaker 5: adjustment and work exactly how he'd say. 1104 00:49:39,136 --> 00:49:42,576 Speaker 3: If a wide receiver was unhappy with you, or if 1105 00:49:42,616 --> 00:49:45,336 Speaker 3: you were unhappy with a wide receiver meaning they ran 1106 00:49:45,376 --> 00:49:50,176 Speaker 3: a wrong route, where would that conversation be, Whether it 1107 00:49:50,216 --> 00:49:51,656 Speaker 3: be in the huddle or would you guys do it 1108 00:49:51,696 --> 00:49:52,536 Speaker 3: on the sideline. 1109 00:49:53,896 --> 00:49:57,016 Speaker 5: Usually I'd get after him on the field, Like if 1110 00:49:57,056 --> 00:49:58,616 Speaker 5: we're in the middle of a series and they were 1111 00:49:58,696 --> 00:50:01,416 Speaker 5: short route, or they ran the wrong route, or they 1112 00:50:01,496 --> 00:50:04,096 Speaker 5: weren't at the right depth, I'd get him on the field. 1113 00:50:04,136 --> 00:50:06,016 Speaker 4: And I had no problem getting after him. 1114 00:50:06,016 --> 00:50:07,896 Speaker 5: And those guys understood anybody that ever played with me, 1115 00:50:07,936 --> 00:50:11,416 Speaker 5: and most wide receiver quarterbacks, they have that relationship where 1116 00:50:11,456 --> 00:50:14,496 Speaker 5: they know it's not personal, but it is me holding 1117 00:50:14,496 --> 00:50:16,616 Speaker 5: you accountable, and the same thing that they would hold 1118 00:50:16,656 --> 00:50:19,416 Speaker 5: me accountable if I messed up. And so that's part 1119 00:50:19,456 --> 00:50:21,296 Speaker 5: of the being a quarterback is you got to get 1120 00:50:21,336 --> 00:50:24,216 Speaker 5: after guys on the field sometimes, But if it's sideline 1121 00:50:24,216 --> 00:50:26,136 Speaker 5: and you don't really know what happened, then you go over, 1122 00:50:26,176 --> 00:50:27,896 Speaker 5: you look at pictures and you say, well, what are 1123 00:50:27,896 --> 00:50:30,696 Speaker 5: we doing here, and then that conversation happens. Now it's 1124 00:50:30,696 --> 00:50:33,616 Speaker 5: probably a little bit more tempered on the sideline. It 1125 00:50:33,616 --> 00:50:37,016 Speaker 5: can occasionally get superheated, but in the huddle or if 1126 00:50:37,056 --> 00:50:39,336 Speaker 5: you're on the field and I see it, then it 1127 00:50:39,336 --> 00:50:42,736 Speaker 5: would probably get a pretty good it'd be a good 1128 00:50:42,776 --> 00:50:44,776 Speaker 5: back and forth between myself and the wide receiver. 1129 00:50:45,096 --> 00:50:46,936 Speaker 3: It's an interesting time because a lot of these guys 1130 00:50:46,976 --> 00:50:51,576 Speaker 3: are either staying with the team that they were with, 1131 00:50:51,696 --> 00:50:53,576 Speaker 3: so they're like re signing, or they're a free agent 1132 00:50:53,576 --> 00:50:56,616 Speaker 3: they're deciding to stay, or they're a moving What is 1133 00:50:56,656 --> 00:50:59,496 Speaker 3: that like kind of not knowing where you're going to go? 1134 00:50:59,696 --> 00:51:03,136 Speaker 3: Like the personal part of that, because again we're seeing 1135 00:51:03,296 --> 00:51:05,936 Speaker 3: these players and we're like, oh, cool is going to 1136 00:51:06,056 --> 00:51:07,936 Speaker 3: LA or so and so it's going there, But like, 1137 00:51:08,096 --> 00:51:11,256 Speaker 3: you're a human being with a wife and a family, 1138 00:51:11,816 --> 00:51:14,056 Speaker 3: what is that unknowing? 1139 00:51:14,216 --> 00:51:16,936 Speaker 5: Like it's unnerving to be honest with you, because you 1140 00:51:16,976 --> 00:51:19,136 Speaker 5: get in that position where you know your contract's up 1141 00:51:19,136 --> 00:51:21,696 Speaker 5: and you're probably already in negotiations. Are we going to 1142 00:51:21,736 --> 00:51:25,056 Speaker 5: be back with the team that I played for the 1143 00:51:25,136 --> 00:51:26,136 Speaker 5: last four. 1144 00:51:25,976 --> 00:51:29,536 Speaker 4: Years or however long you have, and you're settled in. 1145 00:51:29,416 --> 00:51:31,656 Speaker 5: That community, you have your home, you've got your family, 1146 00:51:31,696 --> 00:51:35,096 Speaker 5: the kids probably in school if they're of age to 1147 00:51:35,176 --> 00:51:38,176 Speaker 5: go to school. So then you're sitting there going, maybe 1148 00:51:38,216 --> 00:51:39,976 Speaker 5: we're going back here. But then as soon as you 1149 00:51:40,016 --> 00:51:42,696 Speaker 5: start to realize they're not going to resign you, there's 1150 00:51:42,736 --> 00:51:44,536 Speaker 5: a little bit of excitement, but you have to have 1151 00:51:44,536 --> 00:51:46,496 Speaker 5: everybody on board. And I've been blessed to have a 1152 00:51:46,536 --> 00:51:49,056 Speaker 5: wife that understands the dynamics of what I did for 1153 00:51:49,096 --> 00:51:52,216 Speaker 5: a living. She played sports, so it was always an 1154 00:51:52,256 --> 00:51:54,936 Speaker 5: adventure for us. At the same time, the older I got, 1155 00:51:55,336 --> 00:51:58,656 Speaker 5: the more difficult it got and the more unnerving because 1156 00:51:58,656 --> 00:52:00,176 Speaker 5: you're sitting there going, Okay, where am I going to 1157 00:52:00,256 --> 00:52:03,776 Speaker 5: go now? And also, what does that quarterback situation look like? 1158 00:52:03,936 --> 00:52:06,696 Speaker 5: What is there not coortunity for me to compete? Am 1159 00:52:06,696 --> 00:52:08,056 Speaker 5: I going to be a bridge guy? Or am I 1160 00:52:08,136 --> 00:52:11,096 Speaker 5: going truly there to be a backup and help some 1161 00:52:11,256 --> 00:52:14,496 Speaker 5: young guy develop a little bit more? So there's all 1162 00:52:14,536 --> 00:52:16,576 Speaker 5: those different dynamics, and then as you start to see 1163 00:52:16,576 --> 00:52:19,296 Speaker 5: these guys get signed at your position, you're like, well, hell, 1164 00:52:19,376 --> 00:52:22,176 Speaker 5: I'm better than him, Like what's going on here? Why 1165 00:52:22,216 --> 00:52:24,016 Speaker 5: don't I have a job? And then you start questioning 1166 00:52:24,056 --> 00:52:26,376 Speaker 5: yourself a little bit. But once you do get signed, 1167 00:52:26,376 --> 00:52:28,616 Speaker 5: you're like, all right, we're all in. Let's let's get going. 1168 00:52:28,776 --> 00:52:32,576 Speaker 3: We talked some quarterback lingo in the last episode, maybe 1169 00:52:32,576 --> 00:52:34,856 Speaker 3: the episode before that, and I drowned a little bit, 1170 00:52:34,896 --> 00:52:37,176 Speaker 3: and be honest with you, little I bet off a 1171 00:52:37,216 --> 00:52:39,736 Speaker 3: little more than I could choose. So this time, what 1172 00:52:39,776 --> 00:52:41,296 Speaker 3: I'm going to do is I'm going to toss a 1173 00:52:41,296 --> 00:52:44,216 Speaker 3: couple things out that I choose, and you. 1174 00:52:44,136 --> 00:52:47,416 Speaker 6: Explain to me as rudimentary as possible. 1175 00:52:47,456 --> 00:52:51,216 Speaker 3: I'm talking explain like I'm five, heck three, like I'm 1176 00:52:51,216 --> 00:52:53,376 Speaker 3: a three year, like I'm a toddler. You've had many 1177 00:52:53,416 --> 00:52:55,016 Speaker 3: of those, you had five toddlers. 1178 00:52:55,576 --> 00:52:59,056 Speaker 5: Yes, okay, okay, sweetheart, thank you, Yes, let me expes. 1179 00:52:59,376 --> 00:53:01,656 Speaker 6: Okay, let's talk coverages. 1180 00:53:02,176 --> 00:53:03,616 Speaker 4: Okay, coverages, got it? 1181 00:53:03,736 --> 00:53:04,496 Speaker 3: Cover three? 1182 00:53:04,936 --> 00:53:05,216 Speaker 4: Okay. 1183 00:53:05,456 --> 00:53:11,416 Speaker 5: Cover three is four linebackers underneath and three people deep. 1184 00:53:11,496 --> 00:53:13,896 Speaker 5: When I say that, it means two corners on the 1185 00:53:13,936 --> 00:53:16,336 Speaker 5: outside and a middle of the field safety. It's a 1186 00:53:16,376 --> 00:53:19,776 Speaker 5: true zone defense. And so when I say that, I 1187 00:53:19,816 --> 00:53:23,656 Speaker 5: mean the four guys underneath, they're responsible for the flat 1188 00:53:24,096 --> 00:53:26,696 Speaker 5: curl hook area. So they have these zones that they 1189 00:53:26,736 --> 00:53:29,736 Speaker 5: sit in. The corners are responsible for their third of 1190 00:53:29,736 --> 00:53:32,416 Speaker 5: the field, and in that middle of the field safety 1191 00:53:32,936 --> 00:53:35,056 Speaker 5: he's there play middle of field, but he can go 1192 00:53:35,136 --> 00:53:36,896 Speaker 5: with the range to where he thinks the ball is 1193 00:53:36,936 --> 00:53:39,296 Speaker 5: going to go, but he's deep middle trying to make 1194 00:53:39,296 --> 00:53:41,096 Speaker 5: sure they don't throw the post over the top or 1195 00:53:41,136 --> 00:53:43,496 Speaker 5: do something like that. And so he's got the deep 1196 00:53:43,536 --> 00:53:46,456 Speaker 5: middle of the field. So they're taught don't let anybody 1197 00:53:46,456 --> 00:53:49,416 Speaker 5: get behind you. Corners don't have help really, so they've 1198 00:53:49,416 --> 00:53:52,016 Speaker 5: got to stay on top of that wide receiver on 1199 00:53:52,056 --> 00:53:55,616 Speaker 5: the outside. The safety has free range, especially guys. You 1200 00:53:55,696 --> 00:53:57,696 Speaker 5: always hear about it, like the ed Reeds of the world, 1201 00:53:57,776 --> 00:54:00,336 Speaker 5: that he'd make you think you're thrown over here. You're 1202 00:54:00,336 --> 00:54:02,816 Speaker 5: talking about looking him one way to throw somewhere else, 1203 00:54:02,856 --> 00:54:04,736 Speaker 5: and then he'd just intercept the ball because he had 1204 00:54:04,776 --> 00:54:08,496 Speaker 5: incredible range. But that's what it is. Zone defense, four under, 1205 00:54:08,656 --> 00:54:09,456 Speaker 5: three over the top. 1206 00:54:25,176 --> 00:54:27,016 Speaker 6: All right, let's go, we'll take it up one. 1207 00:54:28,096 --> 00:54:29,896 Speaker 4: Do you think my three year old can understand that 1208 00:54:30,056 --> 00:54:30,416 Speaker 4: I do? 1209 00:54:30,576 --> 00:54:33,896 Speaker 3: And for the record, some of these I know the 1210 00:54:33,936 --> 00:54:35,376 Speaker 3: answer to, I'm just playing dumb guy. 1211 00:54:35,616 --> 00:54:37,616 Speaker 4: So yeah, you play ball, Doug. 1212 00:54:37,856 --> 00:54:42,336 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I still need I am hopefully learning maybe 1213 00:54:42,576 --> 00:54:45,456 Speaker 3: something a little just a little trickle, a little trickle new. 1214 00:54:45,656 --> 00:54:47,616 Speaker 3: And for those that are listening that don't know, I 1215 00:54:47,616 --> 00:54:49,976 Speaker 3: don't want them to feel like I'm here actingly like yeah, 1216 00:54:49,976 --> 00:54:52,016 Speaker 3: I can't believe you guys don't know. We're all in 1217 00:54:52,016 --> 00:54:52,536 Speaker 3: this together. 1218 00:54:52,856 --> 00:54:54,296 Speaker 6: So we're kind of explaining it. 1219 00:54:54,376 --> 00:54:56,856 Speaker 3: And let's go Cover four. So the difference in Cover 1220 00:54:56,936 --> 00:54:58,056 Speaker 3: three and Cover four is what. 1221 00:54:59,016 --> 00:55:02,416 Speaker 5: You got two high safeties now, so you've got three 1222 00:55:02,496 --> 00:55:09,056 Speaker 5: underneath linebacker presence right, they're hook I think curl flat. 1223 00:55:09,096 --> 00:55:11,815 Speaker 5: I should say that they're gonna go to But then 1224 00:55:12,296 --> 00:55:15,056 Speaker 5: corners are responsible for a fourth of their field, and 1225 00:55:15,096 --> 00:55:18,056 Speaker 5: then the safeties are responsible for for So it's literally 1226 00:55:18,256 --> 00:55:22,896 Speaker 5: quarter up the field into fours. Each deep part of 1227 00:55:22,936 --> 00:55:26,296 Speaker 5: the component. The corners and the safeties are responsible for 1228 00:55:26,336 --> 00:55:30,136 Speaker 5: a quarter. Now that can change based on formation in 1229 00:55:30,216 --> 00:55:33,296 Speaker 5: terms of where the safety help goes. But for the 1230 00:55:33,336 --> 00:55:37,616 Speaker 5: most basic aspect of Cover four, we call it quarters. 1231 00:55:38,656 --> 00:55:40,056 Speaker 6: What about a cover six? 1232 00:55:41,656 --> 00:55:44,696 Speaker 5: Cover six? So cover six is similar. So it's quarter 1233 00:55:44,816 --> 00:55:47,376 Speaker 5: quarter half is what we like to call it. And 1234 00:55:47,456 --> 00:55:50,176 Speaker 5: there's different variations based on the system that you're in, 1235 00:55:50,216 --> 00:55:53,536 Speaker 5: Like some people will use different numbers for different types 1236 00:55:53,576 --> 00:55:57,936 Speaker 5: of coverage, but Cover six historically has been quarter quarter half, 1237 00:55:58,016 --> 00:56:01,616 Speaker 5: meaning you're gonna roll say you've got a three by one, 1238 00:56:01,616 --> 00:56:04,216 Speaker 5: which means three wide receivers. Over here, you're ex wide 1239 00:56:04,216 --> 00:56:07,776 Speaker 5: receiver who's usually your number one wide receiver isolated on 1240 00:56:07,816 --> 00:56:11,256 Speaker 5: the weak side, well cover six, as you're playing quarters 1241 00:56:11,296 --> 00:56:14,096 Speaker 5: to one side, so it's quarter quarter and then half, 1242 00:56:14,176 --> 00:56:17,736 Speaker 5: meaning you've got safety helpover that other corner will roll 1243 00:56:17,856 --> 00:56:20,616 Speaker 5: up on that number one wide receiver, so you're basically 1244 00:56:20,656 --> 00:56:23,256 Speaker 5: getting a two on one on one. 1245 00:56:23,136 --> 00:56:23,896 Speaker 4: Side of the field. 1246 00:56:24,536 --> 00:56:27,256 Speaker 3: Is that two one receiver in the half of the 1247 00:56:27,296 --> 00:56:29,456 Speaker 3: field since he's by himself half of the. 1248 00:56:29,416 --> 00:56:32,496 Speaker 5: Field, Yes, So he's he's going to try to get 1249 00:56:32,496 --> 00:56:35,896 Speaker 5: rerouted and play it for the most part like a 1250 00:56:35,936 --> 00:56:37,856 Speaker 5: cover two. So you've got help over the top, so 1251 00:56:37,896 --> 00:56:39,855 Speaker 5: he can't just run by you and run the gos 1252 00:56:39,976 --> 00:56:42,336 Speaker 5: or the comebacks. So the corner is going to be 1253 00:56:42,416 --> 00:56:46,336 Speaker 5: responsible for jamming him up, trying to force an outside release, 1254 00:56:46,416 --> 00:56:49,136 Speaker 5: not letting him get inside, and then at some point 1255 00:56:49,176 --> 00:56:52,696 Speaker 5: he'll fall off and look for anything else coming his direction. 1256 00:56:52,896 --> 00:56:55,216 Speaker 5: But the safety at some point will take him over 1257 00:56:55,416 --> 00:56:57,896 Speaker 5: as he gets into his section of the field. 1258 00:56:58,136 --> 00:57:00,776 Speaker 6: And the final covers question will be when they go 1259 00:57:00,816 --> 00:57:01,616 Speaker 6: into cover zero. 1260 00:57:03,016 --> 00:57:05,136 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, love it, bring it. 1261 00:57:06,216 --> 00:57:10,096 Speaker 5: Cover zero is a max pressure and it usually involves 1262 00:57:10,296 --> 00:57:14,416 Speaker 5: multiple safeties. Now, one of the safeties usually will have 1263 00:57:14,696 --> 00:57:17,816 Speaker 5: the tight end. You'll have one of the linebackers out 1264 00:57:17,816 --> 00:57:20,336 Speaker 5: there on the slot. I say linebacker, it's really considered 1265 00:57:20,376 --> 00:57:23,376 Speaker 5: a nickel. But everybody's on an island. The corners are 1266 00:57:23,376 --> 00:57:25,136 Speaker 5: on one on one, the safety is one on one, 1267 00:57:25,376 --> 00:57:28,216 Speaker 5: the nickels one on one. But everybody else is pressuring, 1268 00:57:28,696 --> 00:57:31,136 Speaker 5: so they're going to try to force you to either 1269 00:57:31,216 --> 00:57:34,336 Speaker 5: throw hot or side adjust. If you go to a 1270 00:57:34,376 --> 00:57:36,896 Speaker 5: seven man pretiction, it might buy you a little bit 1271 00:57:36,936 --> 00:57:39,176 Speaker 5: more time, but they're always bringing at least one or 1272 00:57:39,176 --> 00:57:42,056 Speaker 5: two more than you actually can pick up. So you 1273 00:57:42,216 --> 00:57:44,616 Speaker 5: have to have a game plan to get rid of 1274 00:57:44,616 --> 00:57:47,336 Speaker 5: the ball or to go some kind of max protection 1275 00:57:47,496 --> 00:57:48,696 Speaker 5: and get the ball down the field. 1276 00:57:49,296 --> 00:57:52,256 Speaker 3: And if you're on defense and you're running a cover zero, 1277 00:57:52,496 --> 00:57:54,896 Speaker 3: like you must get to the quarterback, right you have 1278 00:57:54,936 --> 00:57:57,096 Speaker 3: to sell out to get to the quarterback because everybody's 1279 00:57:57,096 --> 00:57:59,976 Speaker 3: on an island, right, Oh, everybody's on an island. 1280 00:58:00,016 --> 00:58:03,776 Speaker 5: And the other part about Cover zero or blit zero 1281 00:58:04,336 --> 00:58:07,376 Speaker 5: is every one of those guys play with inside leverage 1282 00:58:07,656 --> 00:58:09,896 Speaker 5: because if you get beat across your there's nobody in 1283 00:58:09,896 --> 00:58:11,856 Speaker 5: the middle of the field because safeties are gone. 1284 00:58:12,096 --> 00:58:13,976 Speaker 4: Linebackers are gone, so as. 1285 00:58:13,776 --> 00:58:17,056 Speaker 5: If you ever get beat across your face in cover zero, 1286 00:58:17,136 --> 00:58:18,056 Speaker 5: it's a home run. 1287 00:58:18,216 --> 00:58:18,496 Speaker 4: Now. 1288 00:58:18,616 --> 00:58:20,896 Speaker 5: The other thing is so they'll sit inside, so you 1289 00:58:20,936 --> 00:58:24,056 Speaker 5: know that, so out routes or outbreaking routes stuff like 1290 00:58:24,096 --> 00:58:27,176 Speaker 5: that is probably your best bet in getting the ball downfield, 1291 00:58:27,216 --> 00:58:30,216 Speaker 5: corner route something like that, or if you just have 1292 00:58:30,296 --> 00:58:32,496 Speaker 5: a stut on the outside, throw the go route. So 1293 00:58:32,696 --> 00:58:36,096 Speaker 5: that's where the matchups are. But any and when you 1294 00:58:36,136 --> 00:58:37,856 Speaker 5: get a cover zero and you can block it up, 1295 00:58:37,976 --> 00:58:40,576 Speaker 5: you're going to your best matchup period because you want 1296 00:58:40,576 --> 00:58:41,856 Speaker 5: to go to your dude that you think can make 1297 00:58:41,896 --> 00:58:44,176 Speaker 5: a play and if he breaks one tackle, he's to 1298 00:58:44,216 --> 00:58:46,096 Speaker 5: the house. But if they don't get home, I mean, 1299 00:58:46,136 --> 00:58:48,136 Speaker 5: if they do get home, which they're planning on doing that, 1300 00:58:48,416 --> 00:58:50,136 Speaker 5: then it's a pain in the butt because you're rushed 1301 00:58:50,176 --> 00:58:54,176 Speaker 5: and guys aren't coming out of breaks, and it's it's works. 1302 00:58:54,216 --> 00:58:59,216 Speaker 3: Often as a fan watching, I feel like coaches or 1303 00:58:59,336 --> 00:59:02,776 Speaker 3: quarterbacks or offensive coordinators are way too in love with 1304 00:59:02,816 --> 00:59:04,416 Speaker 3: these fades in the corner. 1305 00:59:04,216 --> 00:59:04,776 Speaker 6: Of the end zone. 1306 00:59:04,896 --> 00:59:08,456 Speaker 3: It seems he's like watching they never work. What is 1307 00:59:08,496 --> 00:59:11,256 Speaker 3: the fascination with the freaking fade. 1308 00:59:11,296 --> 00:59:12,056 Speaker 4: Well down there? 1309 00:59:12,376 --> 00:59:14,896 Speaker 5: It's amazing because when you get into the red zones, 1310 00:59:14,936 --> 00:59:18,856 Speaker 5: particularly the low red zone, the field shrinks right. The 1311 00:59:18,896 --> 00:59:21,096 Speaker 5: windows are so much tighter. They talk about it all 1312 00:59:21,136 --> 00:59:23,616 Speaker 5: the time. For the quarterback, when you're throwing in the 1313 00:59:23,616 --> 00:59:25,136 Speaker 5: front of the end zone, you want to put it 1314 00:59:25,216 --> 00:59:27,216 Speaker 5: low so he can body it up. Because you throw 1315 00:59:27,256 --> 00:59:29,256 Speaker 5: it high at the front, that's when balls get tipped 1316 00:59:29,256 --> 00:59:31,056 Speaker 5: and things happen. And then you want to throw it 1317 00:59:31,136 --> 00:59:33,136 Speaker 5: high in the back of the end zone because you're 1318 00:59:33,176 --> 00:59:35,416 Speaker 5: giving your guy an opportunity to go up and high 1319 00:59:35,416 --> 00:59:37,096 Speaker 5: point a ball. And when I say that, I mean 1320 00:59:37,136 --> 00:59:40,016 Speaker 5: like an end cut on the baseline or on the 1321 00:59:40,056 --> 00:59:40,656 Speaker 5: in line to the. 1322 00:59:42,376 --> 00:59:42,936 Speaker 4: End zone. 1323 00:59:43,016 --> 00:59:45,656 Speaker 5: You're trying to throw it high so that you're missing 1324 00:59:45,736 --> 00:59:48,656 Speaker 5: all the underneath traffic because of the condensed windows, trying 1325 00:59:48,656 --> 00:59:50,096 Speaker 5: to throw it high so he can co up and 1326 00:59:50,176 --> 00:59:52,576 Speaker 5: high point that ball. But the fade has always been 1327 00:59:52,616 --> 00:59:54,656 Speaker 5: something if you get one on one, they're bringing blit 1328 00:59:54,776 --> 00:59:57,616 Speaker 5: zero or you trust in a guy. It's all about 1329 00:59:57,616 --> 00:59:59,736 Speaker 5: the release pattern to me and the wide receiver if 1330 00:59:59,736 --> 01:00:02,616 Speaker 5: he can go up, and he's got to be patient 1331 01:00:02,656 --> 01:00:05,096 Speaker 5: because you sometimes you'll see those guys take one step 1332 01:00:05,176 --> 01:00:07,056 Speaker 5: up and go to the corner of the end zone. 1333 01:00:07,136 --> 01:00:09,896 Speaker 5: Just like you're saying, well, that corner just is able 1334 01:00:09,936 --> 01:00:12,776 Speaker 5: to react. You didn't give him anything different, so that one. 1335 01:00:12,816 --> 01:00:14,096 Speaker 5: Now he just runs you to the side of the 1336 01:00:14,176 --> 01:00:17,576 Speaker 5: end zone, plays hands, and it's an unsuccessful play. The 1337 01:00:17,616 --> 01:00:21,376 Speaker 5: best wide receivers that you've seen run the fade route, 1338 01:00:21,496 --> 01:00:24,336 Speaker 5: a guy like Larry Fitzgerald. He'll go up and he'll 1339 01:00:24,376 --> 01:00:27,296 Speaker 5: give you three one two three start so he can 1340 01:00:27,776 --> 01:00:30,296 Speaker 5: go inside, he can go outside. But what that does 1341 01:00:30,496 --> 01:00:33,736 Speaker 5: is it straightens up that defensive back and now you 1342 01:00:33,776 --> 01:00:38,136 Speaker 5: give yourself space and time to go throw that ball. 1343 01:00:38,256 --> 01:00:41,616 Speaker 3: You would hear when talking about the difference in high 1344 01:00:41,616 --> 01:00:44,496 Speaker 3: school to college to the NFL. In high school, throw 1345 01:00:44,536 --> 01:00:47,616 Speaker 3: it when he's wide open. In college right when he 1346 01:00:47,656 --> 01:00:51,016 Speaker 3: starts to get open, throw it, and the pros sometimes 1347 01:00:51,016 --> 01:00:53,656 Speaker 3: you got to throw him open when he's not open 1348 01:00:53,736 --> 01:00:57,456 Speaker 3: at all. Would you say that's an accurate description of 1349 01:00:57,536 --> 01:00:59,696 Speaker 3: what you have to learn as a quarterback through those levels. 1350 01:00:59,976 --> 01:01:01,536 Speaker 4: I think that's one hundred percent accurate. 1351 01:01:01,776 --> 01:01:05,256 Speaker 5: Anticipation is key, particularly in the NFL, and that's what 1352 01:01:05,616 --> 01:01:07,536 Speaker 5: we talk about all the time in our meetings, is 1353 01:01:08,576 --> 01:01:12,336 Speaker 5: I've told you this, the depth when you're supposed to 1354 01:01:12,376 --> 01:01:15,056 Speaker 5: be there, how you're getting there. You have to understand 1355 01:01:15,056 --> 01:01:17,176 Speaker 5: that because there's a lot of time when somebody's breathing 1356 01:01:17,216 --> 01:01:19,176 Speaker 5: down to your neck. You're throwing it, and the trust 1357 01:01:19,256 --> 01:01:21,096 Speaker 5: has to be that you're at the right depth, you're 1358 01:01:21,096 --> 01:01:23,936 Speaker 5: throwing it to the spot where you're anticipating him coming, 1359 01:01:24,296 --> 01:01:26,496 Speaker 5: and you're blindly throwing this thing because he's not even 1360 01:01:26,536 --> 01:01:28,856 Speaker 5: out of his break, but you're throwing it with the 1361 01:01:28,896 --> 01:01:31,896 Speaker 5: anticipation that he's going to be there. And that's when 1362 01:01:31,936 --> 01:01:33,576 Speaker 5: big plays happen a lot of times because it's a 1363 01:01:33,616 --> 01:01:36,176 Speaker 5: catch and run through the zone and out the back door. 1364 01:01:36,576 --> 01:01:39,256 Speaker 5: But you have to have anticipation in the league because 1365 01:01:39,296 --> 01:01:41,136 Speaker 5: the guy's on the defensive side of the ball, particularly 1366 01:01:41,136 --> 01:01:43,896 Speaker 5: at the cornerback position. They're such freak athletes that if 1367 01:01:43,936 --> 01:01:46,536 Speaker 5: you're a split second late, you take that extra hitch, 1368 01:01:46,856 --> 01:01:50,136 Speaker 5: you hesitate at all. Now that gives him the ability 1369 01:01:50,176 --> 01:01:51,816 Speaker 5: to recover. Even if your guy comes out of the 1370 01:01:51,816 --> 01:01:55,536 Speaker 5: break at a better angle than he did, he's going 1371 01:01:55,576 --> 01:01:57,336 Speaker 5: to catch up and be able to either get hands 1372 01:01:57,336 --> 01:01:59,056 Speaker 5: on it or potentially intercept it. 1373 01:02:00,016 --> 01:02:00,816 Speaker 6: A lot of trust. 1374 01:02:00,896 --> 01:02:03,536 Speaker 3: Could you throw balls if you had to blindfold it 1375 01:02:03,576 --> 01:02:06,736 Speaker 3: in practice and pretty much much know where to throw 1376 01:02:06,816 --> 01:02:08,816 Speaker 3: since everything is on timing. 1377 01:02:10,056 --> 01:02:12,656 Speaker 5: I don't know if I accurately could say that I 1378 01:02:12,696 --> 01:02:15,136 Speaker 5: could put a blindfold on and just throw the ball. 1379 01:02:15,216 --> 01:02:18,216 Speaker 4: I mean I would. I could probably get it around 1380 01:02:18,216 --> 01:02:18,736 Speaker 4: the vicinity. 1381 01:02:18,816 --> 01:02:22,376 Speaker 5: I don't know how accurate i'd be with a blindfold on, 1382 01:02:22,656 --> 01:02:24,456 Speaker 5: but in general direction i'd be. 1383 01:02:25,216 --> 01:02:26,896 Speaker 4: I'd be around the guy for sure. 1384 01:02:27,536 --> 01:02:28,896 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd use a blindfold for me. 1385 01:02:29,176 --> 01:02:32,456 Speaker 3: I'd be practicing with the blind Yeah, mister Miagy dodgeball 1386 01:02:32,496 --> 01:02:36,176 Speaker 3: at the end, I'd be so dialed in. Blindfold me up, 1387 01:02:36,216 --> 01:02:38,296 Speaker 3: then fourth quarter we should come up with that. 1388 01:02:38,736 --> 01:02:38,936 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1389 01:02:38,976 --> 01:02:40,536 Speaker 3: No, I'll practice enough. I don't get a practice enough. 1390 01:02:40,576 --> 01:02:42,256 Speaker 3: I'm saying, like you, a guy, practice you know all 1391 01:02:42,296 --> 01:02:45,176 Speaker 3: the time. That's going to be it for this episode 1392 01:02:45,216 --> 01:02:48,016 Speaker 3: of Lots to Say, go subscribe to the podcast please, 1393 01:02:48,016 --> 01:02:50,256 Speaker 3: if you don't mind whatever feeds you're hearing this on, 1394 01:02:50,256 --> 01:02:51,856 Speaker 3: if it's on the bibonjo feet, if it's on one 1395 01:02:51,856 --> 01:02:54,736 Speaker 3: of the NFL feeds, and you enjoyed the show, if 1396 01:02:54,736 --> 01:02:57,616 Speaker 3: you don't mind search for Lots to say, subscribe, we 1397 01:02:57,656 --> 01:02:59,416 Speaker 3: would love it. It would help us. If you don't mind 1398 01:02:59,416 --> 01:03:01,656 Speaker 3: give us a review, put a comment up. We don't 1399 01:03:01,656 --> 01:03:03,496 Speaker 3: have many of those. 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Everybody's like what, and I'm like, 1410 01:03:27,936 --> 01:03:29,496 Speaker 3: you know, I only have so much fun before I 1411 01:03:29,496 --> 01:03:30,256 Speaker 3: start to feel guilty. 1412 01:03:30,376 --> 01:03:33,576 Speaker 8: Yeah, my wife is pregnant, seven months pregnant, so it's 1413 01:03:33,576 --> 01:03:35,936 Speaker 8: like you can only do so much and you know, 1414 01:03:36,016 --> 01:03:37,696 Speaker 8: I can sit by that for so long. But she 1415 01:03:37,816 --> 01:03:39,016 Speaker 8: loves it, and I'm like, all right. 1416 01:03:39,016 --> 01:03:39,456 Speaker 4: This is cool. 1417 01:03:39,936 --> 01:03:42,456 Speaker 3: Kickoff Kevin, Congratulations. Read who's about to get married? 1418 01:03:42,496 --> 01:03:49,576 Speaker 6: Coming out? How many months? Only two months? Oh? 1419 01:03:49,656 --> 01:03:51,736 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're getting ready? 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