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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Big Blue Kickoff live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Com. John Schmilk Lance Medal with

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Speaker 1: you and the phone number if you want to get

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Speaker 1: in touches to a one nine, four five, one three

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Speaker 1: phones already ringing off the hooks. It should not be

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Speaker 1: that big of a surprise. Will also keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. If time permits a hashtag Giants chat Lands,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you in charge of that. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you I know you love interacting with the folks on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: so I think you're the last person to to to

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Speaker 1: be in charge of that. And obviously, the Giants not

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Speaker 1: the opening day anyone was looking for. They fall to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys in Dallas thirty five to seventeen. And if

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Speaker 1: you listen to us preview this game and really preview

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Speaker 1: the Giants season, sadly, I'm not saying you shouldn't be surprised,

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Speaker 1: because I think it went to more of an extreme

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Speaker 1: that we kind of expected going in. But the offense

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Speaker 1: was pretty good. Didn't score enough points, but they moved

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Speaker 1: the ball fairly well. And the past defense was as

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Speaker 1: maybe worse than we've aught it might be. Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: perfect quarterback rating four yards passing four TVs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's about as bad as it gets in terms

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Speaker 1: of the past defense. So we're on the right track

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Speaker 1: and the way we talked about this, but I just

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Speaker 1: think it it went a little bit more sideways than

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Speaker 1: we thought it could. Well. We had multiple conversations John

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Speaker 1: all offseason about the defense was going to define the year.

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Speaker 1: I've said that line time and time again. So to

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Speaker 1: your point, I don't think this was a stunning development.

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Speaker 1: I think we needed to see the defense at least

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Speaker 1: to get a better grasp of what to expect. But

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Speaker 1: you've got a young secondary, You had a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys played for the first time, and Dallas, to their credit,

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Speaker 1: took advantage of those guys, right. I mean, if you're

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore and they're a good team, yeah, But if

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Speaker 1: you're Kellen Moore and you're also a first time O

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Speaker 1: see part of your game plan if it doesn't include

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Speaker 1: let's go opposite Genor's Jenkins and see what these secondary

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Speaker 1: players have, I would question whether or not you should

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Speaker 1: be an offensive coordinator in the NFL. That's exactly I'm

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Speaker 1: sure what they game planned to do. They said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: if Jenkins is going to go up against Marie Cooper,

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna go the opposite side of the field.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go the middle of the field. And you

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Speaker 1: know they spread the wealth. If you look at the

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Speaker 1: numbers we're talking about, Gallup and Cooper had over a

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Speaker 1: hundred yards. Gallup, Cooper, Cob Jarwin Winnin each had at

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Speaker 1: least three receptions. They didn't just target one guy. They

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Speaker 1: went across the board absolutely. And I wish I could

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Speaker 1: pinpoint one player, one overarching issue, anything like that where

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Speaker 1: I can say, look, this is where things went wrong Lands,

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Speaker 1: But I can't because I looked at the tape. I

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Speaker 1: watched it on the way back from Dallas, and it

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Speaker 1: was different players, it was different errors. There were I

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Speaker 1: want to go through it. You had penalties, you had

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Speaker 1: missed assignments, you had poor technique, you would poor execution.

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Speaker 1: You had mismatches where the Cowboys got the Giant to

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Speaker 1: some mismatches that favored them a k a. Mary Cooper

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Speaker 1: being covered by Antoine Bethet and I would not not

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Speaker 1: not what you're looking for, and it just went sideways

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Speaker 1: quick and the first two cowboys, these drives, the Giants

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Speaker 1: made him earn it you know, they made him work

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Speaker 1: their way down the field. There were longer drives that

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Speaker 1: they've Cowboys finished their second drive with that bleak Darwin touchdown,

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Speaker 1: and that was kind of the start of where you

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Speaker 1: saw the big chunk plays come from Giant mistakes. But

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Speaker 1: up until then, Prescott had a couple of small window throws.

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Speaker 1: They want the cobs and they want to gallop on

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Speaker 1: third and fours, and they really had to work for it.

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Speaker 1: But once you got past that that Jarwin touchdown that

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Speaker 1: things started to fall apart and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: things got really easy looking for Dallas. Moving the ball.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys had six plays of twenty or more yards John So,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a lot, and a number of them

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Speaker 1: this is what spells out the type of evening it

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Speaker 1: was for the Giants defense. The third touchdown drive for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. And by the way, the Cowboys scored touchdowns

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Speaker 1: But five straight possessions they reached the end zone. So

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Speaker 1: the third touchdown drive, John, that started at their own

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Speaker 1: It was barely as if he was touched before you

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Speaker 1: even say it was this the second and twenties scenario. Yes,

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Speaker 1: exactly what that was my guess. So second and twenty

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Speaker 1: penalty on a Blitz pickup. Correct exactly. So you put

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys in a precarious spot, right, John, You do

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Speaker 1: you want most teams to be in a second second

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Speaker 1: twenties a great situation, Lance. So Prescott completes a Pastor

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Speaker 1: Randall cob for seven. So it should be third and

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Speaker 1: thirteen if my math is correct. Instead it becomes first

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Speaker 1: Davis his culture defensive holding, which is an automatic first down. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that's the first no, no, alright, Dallas is still

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Speaker 1: not in Giants territory. You can still make up for this,

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Speaker 1: John Right, I wrote a at the same exact thing

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Speaker 1: in my film review Lance. It's hilarious, and we didn't

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Speaker 1: even talk about this. We did so. Then later in

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Speaker 1: the drive, it's third and nine at the Giants thirty eight. Okay, hey,

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Speaker 1: you make a stop. Maybe they don't want to kick

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Speaker 1: the field goal, maybe they do whatever it may be.

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Speaker 1: Prescott incomplete pass the Tavon Austin. Okay, Now Marcus Golden

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Speaker 1: is called offside, so they get to continue to drive.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're still not done. It's third and four.

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Speaker 1: You can make a stop, Dak Prescott runs for eight yards.

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Speaker 1: He picks up the first down that carries out into

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. So you gave them to the three opportunities, John,

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Speaker 1: they reached the end zone. Yeah, and then you had

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Speaker 1: what do we talk about all year? Young cornerbacks and

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Speaker 1: great debut. He got beat deep twice, once by Michael

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Speaker 1: Gallop once by a Marii Cooper. Both plays it looked

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys third scoring drive maybe, and they had the

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Speaker 1: rid of the ball quick. He hit Cobb in the

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Speaker 1: Witting touchdown or the Zeke Elliott touchdown, I remember which one,

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Speaker 1: the same game. But to me watching it on tape, Lance,

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Speaker 1: a lot of these things are correctable. These are mistakes

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Speaker 1: you don't expect. And I'm not gonna say it's all

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Speaker 1: the young defensive backs either, because you saw veteran players

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Speaker 1: make mistakes over the course of this game too. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't just the young guys. This was And Michael Thomas

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Speaker 1: said that after the game in the postgame show. We

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Speaker 1: This isn't the young guys, and he said it was

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Speaker 1: a different guy in every play when you had the

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Speaker 1: big place. So it's it's a team wide thing. It's

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Speaker 1: a ghost coach coaches, no two. Everyone's in this together,

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Speaker 1: and from scheme to execution, Uh, being in the right spot,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. It all has to get better. Now

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Speaker 1: you're playing an opponent next week that's not nearly as

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Speaker 1: John down the field, I mean, regardless of whether it's

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Speaker 1: have that. I mean, it looked way too easy more

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Speaker 1: often than not, whether it's Blake Jarwin, whether it's Randall Cobb,

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Speaker 1: mean it was across the board. Guys got separation for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and Giants weren't pursuit. They were chasing more

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Speaker 1: a fair summary of what went on. You point to

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Speaker 1: that is perhaps scheme to bring into question. Then you

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Speaker 1: look into the young guys not necessarily being proficient in

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Speaker 1: terms of their technique, and then you know, the other

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Speaker 1: thing that I think is important to emphasize, and I

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Speaker 1: make him feel uncomfortable. John is going to be a

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Speaker 1: necessity no matter who the opponent is, no matter who

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Speaker 1: with leaving your secondary out on an island. And as

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Speaker 1: I mentioned again earlier, two quarterback hits, no sacks. But

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Speaker 1: it never felt as if Dak Press got Guna uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: throughout the game yesterday and never felt as if he

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Speaker 1: look at all five or six targets. John. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: was not a lot of pressure in the game, so

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Speaker 1: it just something another thing we talked about. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how many times did we go over the sack numb

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Speaker 1: fact that Marcus Golden is the only guy that has

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Speaker 1: Who's gonna make a statement? And I can't tell you

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Speaker 1: how many times, John, that you went through that game

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Speaker 1: assume they get the twelve men on the field penalty penalty.

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Speaker 1: Let's assume they execute. You're still talking about you're in

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Speaker 1: that Dallas thirty yard line territory. You have no idea

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Speaker 1: what's gonna come after that. There's no guarantee you're gonna

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Speaker 1: score touchdown. Of course, there's no guarantee youre gonna get

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Speaker 1: a field goal attempt. We don't know how the game

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Speaker 1: plays out, so yes, it did certainly impact momentum at

436
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Speaker 1: that point, John, but that to me is not legitimate

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Speaker 1: a reason to explain how the Cowboys then score five

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Speaker 1: straight touchdowns. To me, look, I know a lot of

439
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 1: people worried about the play calling in the offense. Guys,

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Speaker 1: that is like reason number ten as to why the

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Speaker 1: Giants lost this game. Reasons one through nine are all

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Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball period. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: had four hundred and seventy yards of total offense through

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Speaker 1: three quarters. Four seventy through three quarters, and the Giants,

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Speaker 1: by the way, had three hundred and forty yards of

446
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Speaker 1: offense through three quarters. That's not bad. That's actually pretty good.

447
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 1: That's not a bad number. They moved the ball, but

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Speaker 1: again situationally third down, red zone, they just didn't get

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Speaker 1: the job done. With you why they didn't get the points?

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Speaker 1: Well anything else before quickly to add to your point

451
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Speaker 1: about the Cowboys, I mean Dac in the first half, John,

452
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Speaker 1: two hundred fifty six yards, three touchdowns. That was just

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Speaker 1: du two quarters work. I mean, it just goes to

454
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Speaker 1: show you how efficient he was. The other thing that

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Speaker 1: I wanted to wind out eight penalties for seventy yards

456
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Speaker 1: across the board. You had four on offense, two on

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Speaker 1: special teams, two on defense, so you know there were

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Speaker 1: misques that came back to haunt the Giants and hurt

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Speaker 1: them in field position. And the other thing that I

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Speaker 1: wanted to touch on real quickly is time of possession,

461
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Speaker 1: which is always one of my favorite subjects. And everybody

462
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Speaker 1: focuses on how many calls do we get in the

463
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Speaker 1: off season, right, Giants gotta improve time of possession? Well,

464
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys had a lopsided advantage in time of possession.

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Speaker 1: At one point it was like nineteen minutes and change

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Speaker 1: change John to ten minutes in change that's correct, And

467
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys ran about forty plays of the Giants twenty

468
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Speaker 1: something in the first half. Okay, but what was the key?

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys were lopsided and plays run and also time

470
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Speaker 1: of possession. But what separated the Cowboys from the Giants

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Speaker 1: that ultimately made the big difference who scored touchdowns? Last?

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Speaker 1: There we go. So the Giants actually ended up John

473
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Speaker 1: with twenty seven plus minutes and change of time of possession.

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Speaker 1: That disparity was only about five minutes when it's all

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Speaker 1: said and dumb. Mean, if you didn't watch the game

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Speaker 1: and you looked at t op you'd say, oh, wasn't

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Speaker 1: that lopsided. But the big difference is the Cowboys scored

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Speaker 1: five touchdowns, So you're showing me time of possession and

479
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Speaker 1: you're showing me results that are synonymous with that. The

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Speaker 1: Giants have twenty seven minutes worth of possession, but they

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Speaker 1: only had really one meaningful touchdown when the game was

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Speaker 1: within striking distance. Outside of that, I don't count the

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Speaker 1: late touchdown by Wayne Golm and the game was out

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Speaker 1: of hand. That lands. I don't look at anything that

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Speaker 1: happened in the fourth quarter in this game. Point is,

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Speaker 1: time of possession is great for all of you that

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Speaker 1: argue you need to dominate the football. Okay, Well, the

488
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: Giants had possessions and drives where they were moving the

489
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Speaker 1: ball and they have nothing to show for it. So

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Speaker 1: time of possession is irrelevant if you don't do anything

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Speaker 1: with it. True, The one way it is relevant is

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Speaker 1: that the Giants, aside from that two minute drill at

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Speaker 1: the end of the half, they were in four offensive

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Speaker 1: plays in the second quarter fourth well, and that was

495
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Speaker 1: because the Cowboys put together a thirteen play drive. They

496
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Speaker 1: couldn't make stops. They've put together two drives. They had

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Speaker 1: a nine play ninety three yard drive and a thirteen

498
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Speaker 1: play eight three are drive that elapsed round eight minutes

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Speaker 1: or ten minutes of game clock. That'll do it. So

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Speaker 1: that's just a matter of not the offense not being

501
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Speaker 1: on the field to score points. To the John's only

502
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: had two drives in the second corner. One was when

503
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Speaker 1: they got the ball in the minute thirteen seconds to go,

504
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: So they didn't have the ball to score a lot

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Speaker 1: of points either, which which was a factor just the

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Speaker 1: amount of possessions they had. No I think that's a

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Speaker 1: very fair point. Also, Pat Shermer and his press conference

508
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Speaker 1: when he was questioned about Barkley's usage, one of his responses,

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Speaker 1: if memory serves me correct, John was we didn't have

510
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Speaker 1: the ball enough in the second quarter. He even said

511
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Speaker 1: that because people were asking about Barkley's touches his you

512
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Speaker 1: should He says, I wish the team had more plays

513
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: and more touches in the second quarter, and then just

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Speaker 1: spells out how lops are They had twenty four twenty

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Speaker 1: five plays in the first half of this game, which

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Speaker 1: simply is is a lot it's fewer than you would

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Speaker 1: expect from a team are usually gonna run sixty seven

518
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Speaker 1: the offensive points over the course of the game, So

519
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: obviously not what you're looking for. All right, let's get

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Speaker 1: to the calls at two four, five, one three. It's

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Speaker 1: leaves us off today. Hey John, Hey guys, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing well? Good John? What's up? Um? Justin comments?

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Speaker 1: You know, is anyone's surprised about our performance? You know?

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Speaker 1: And I get to score. But we have a young

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Speaker 1: and experienced team going against the Super Bowl contender, So

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that we lost that game. UM, not

531
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Speaker 1: surprised that DBS weren't on the same page considering their inexperience.

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Speaker 1: What's more fatiguing to me is our inability and or

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Speaker 1: cover tight ends. And Jason wouldn't how many times has

534
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Speaker 1: this guy just destroyed us? I think covering the wide

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Speaker 1: receivers were a much bigger problem than the tight ends

536
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Speaker 1: in this game. John, and wouldn't combine just six catches

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Speaker 1: for fifty four yards. That's I know, they had two touchdowns,

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00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: but yeah, to two touchdowns. But the wide receivers, by

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Speaker 1: the way, just f y I they combined for three

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty four yards. That was a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a bigger problem. Yeah, slightly bigger problem. But to

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Speaker 1: your point, John, I mean, Jason Winn't just to put

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Speaker 1: it in perspective, sixteen touchdowns against the Giants in thirty

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Speaker 1: one regular season games. So and John, let me put

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Speaker 1: it this way. I think this is a better way

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Speaker 1: to look at it. And this is what would frustrate

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Speaker 1: me if I were in your position. It was the

548
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: middle of the field that was a problem. Again. So

549
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Speaker 1: while it wasn't the tight ends that murdered you, where

550
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Speaker 1: were all the besides those two will go routes on

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Speaker 1: the outside, the Gallop and Cooper, the Cowboys did all

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Speaker 1: their damage in the middle of the field. Again, and

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Speaker 1: that's a problem that's kind of plagued this team for

554
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. It was dac over the

555
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: middle constantly. It parted like the red seas more often

556
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Speaker 1: than not because where where were the same in the safeties,

557
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Speaker 1: because there was one play where I know Peppers came down,

558
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Speaker 1: but they went to the left or to the right,

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Speaker 1: excuse me if you go, based on his direction. And

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: And then there was the play where but obviously was

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Speaker 1: covering Cooper near the lines, but Peppers went all the

563
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Speaker 1: way outside and he vacated the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: It was bizarre. Well, and that's what I'm saying. That's

565
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Speaker 1: why the middle of the field was Dak Prescott's playground.

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Speaker 1: It was one pass after another right over the middle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And so that's the And then I just had a question, Sure,

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Speaker 1: how did Baxter Lawrence? I mean, was he effective at all?

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Speaker 1: Did he? Was he good in the run? I just

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Speaker 1: didn't hear him that much. And I was hoping for

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Speaker 1: big things. And I'll take it off fline. Guys. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate your paul, Thank you. Yeah, you know what, it's hard.

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Speaker 1: I watched the tape. I would be sitting there for

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Speaker 1: twelve hours if I watched every guy in detail. It's

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Speaker 1: hard as it is. It's still a three or four

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Speaker 1: hour process for me, just kind of getting a feel

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Speaker 1: for it. I can tell you how many snaps he

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Speaker 1: play less. Look up his stats for me if you can,

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Speaker 1: if you have this tap looking up actually is snaps

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Speaker 1: he played. Yeah, I got the snaps snaps in total,

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Speaker 1: which was which was less than Tomlinson, Hill and I

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Speaker 1: think Olson, Pierre Simpierre played thirty snaps. Tominson played thirty one,

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Speaker 1: b J. Hill played forty six, and Lawrence played. Now

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Speaker 1: I have not looked and I can do this. I

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Speaker 1: can do this sorting feature. Maybe I can do it

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Speaker 1: after Lens starts talking here. How many snaps he played

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Speaker 1: in the first half of the game as opposed to

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Speaker 1: the second half. Maybe they took him off the field

589
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: once the game got out of hand. I don't know

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Speaker 1: the answer to that, but I thought over all the

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00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: Giants Rus Stevens was actually pretty good. I thought they

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00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: were fine. Zekelele to four yards per carry, nothing spectacular,

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Speaker 1: but no Lawrence did not, you know, flash and make

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Speaker 1: any sort of monster plays. But I didn't see him

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Speaker 1: struggle particularly either. He was credited with one tackle. What

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00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence got statistically thirty carries eighty nine rushing yards

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Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys as a team, I would argue,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think the Giants put Dallas in a

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Speaker 1: position where they needed to lead on the run game,

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00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: and that was another thing that played right into the

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Speaker 1: hands of the Cowboys. You know, there was a point

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00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: where I'm sure Kellen Moore, of their offensive coordina and

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00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: was telling Dac hey, you're in such a rhythm. They're

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Speaker 1: not stopping anybody wide, receiver, tight end, you name it.

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Speaker 1: If you've got looks, throw the football. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: know we've got Zeke and we gave him ninety million dollars,

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Speaker 1: but considering him as all of training camp in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: we don't need to work him so much in Game one,

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Speaker 1: and it turned out they gave him thirteen carries and

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Speaker 1: he wound up with two targets in the passing game

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Speaker 1: for just one catch. So ideally, they're probably very content

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Speaker 1: that they didn't have to lean heavily on him, and

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Speaker 1: they were able to play Tony Pollard for the majority

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Speaker 1: of the second half because they didn't feel as if

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Speaker 1: they needed Zeke to run the clock and so forth.

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Speaker 1: So I agree. I think statistically the Giants did a

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Speaker 1: good job against the run meeting. They't give up a

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Speaker 1: big run. The longest run was ten yards. But I

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Speaker 1: also don't think they put the Cowboys in a position

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Speaker 1: where they were telling Dallas, Hey, you know what, you're

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Speaker 1: not getting enough on first and second down. You've got

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Speaker 1: to do a better job running the football. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: converted sixty percent of their third downs. Now, Dallas has

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00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: always been a strong third down team for the most

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Speaker 1: part because of their ability to run the football. Of

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Speaker 1: actively on first and second down, it sets up manageable

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Speaker 1: third down. Six of ten on third down. And here's

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Speaker 1: the third down. So the Cowboys third and five, third

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Speaker 1: and four, third and four, third and ten, third and four,

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Speaker 1: third and six, third and eight, third and five. The

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Speaker 1: worst situation they faced John yesterday. It was a third

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Speaker 1: and twenty one and the game was well in hand

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Speaker 1: at that point. And the third and ten that they faced,

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00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb converted a fourteen yard passed for our first down,

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Speaker 1: and the third and five that was manageable. That one

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00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: of the ones in which they don't get credit for.

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00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: Dac actually hit him, Mariy Cooper. He had a step.

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Speaker 1: I forget who it was and it went right off

639
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: with Cooper thinking Cobb at a drop all during the

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00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: game too. And how about that first drive when the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys of the punt. It is only because Prescott through

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Speaker 1: the ball three yards short of Cooper would have been

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Speaker 1: a first down on that drive too. So I mean,

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00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: you can't even credit the Giants defense per se in

645
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: creating the reasons why the Cowboys didn't convert on four

646
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: their third down. Lawrence, by the way, played twenty of

647
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: his twenty eight snaps in the first half. He played

648
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: four snaps in the third, the four snaps in the fourth.

649
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: So I think maybe once the game got out of hand,

650
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: they said, you know what, let's take the big guy

651
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: off the field. I think that's fair to one four

652
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: or five one three. Let's go to Russ in New York.

653
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: He's up next. Hey russ O, Hey, how you doing us?

654
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: What's up? I just wanted to call. Like I said,

655
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm a long time Giants fan. I've been listening to

656
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: you guys for years and the first time call for me,

657
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: and I just think it was a pitiful exhibition yesterday.

658
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't good, terrible. I've been listening to you guys

659
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: now for a half hour talking about everything, and I

660
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: agree with a lot of what you say, and I

661
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: disagree with a lot. I agree with everything you say

662
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: about the defense, you know, and it's come. You know,

663
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: it's going to be bound to be happened because if

664
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: they're younging and they haven't inexperience, have to play together,

665
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: have to learn. I get all of that, but on offense,

666
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: the play calling and the execution was just terrible. I've

667
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: been listening to you guys since I don't know how long,

668
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: but all summer long, we've been saying, let's take a

669
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: play out of the Dallas book where we're gonna run

670
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: the ball. Not so much control of the clock. I'm

671
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: not going after that and not beating that drum time

672
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: of possession, but let's control of the clock, keep the offense,

673
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: their offense off the field and our defense off the field.

674
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: And we didn't do that. I know, we moved the

675
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: ball very well what you said, Like you said, the

676
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: results weren't there. And I and when I read on

677
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: Giants Wire this morning when Schumer said that they didn't

678
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: have a play call for third and one and four

679
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 1: for one fourth and one for Berkeley, that's just crazy,

680
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: that's lunacy. I'm sorry. I think he shoven just for

681
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: set him the ball at that point in time. Well,

682
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: if you referring to his postgame presser, he was asked

683
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: about this series in which Elijah Penny got it and

684
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: then they rolled out Eli Manning and Eli ultimately was

685
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: sacked and then lost the fumble. You could argue, maybe

686
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd, if you get rid of the football a

687
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: little bit earlier, perhaps there's a target there. Eli sent

688
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: in his postgame press conference, by the way, he felt

689
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: the safety was too close to Shepherd and that's why

690
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: he didn't want to force it into that area. That

691
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: was his explanation, because I did go back and listen,

692
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: but I don't want to misinterpret your words. Sherman didn't

693
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: say that they didn't have a play ready for Sae

694
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley they didn't want to use it. He basically

695
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: said that they were more than confident that with their

696
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: offensive line and Eli Penny, they were going to be

697
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: able to pick up the first down. Because he was

698
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: asked about do you regret looking back at the results

699
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: of not handing the ball to sa kuon Barkley, That

700
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: was that phrase of a question. If that was the question,

701
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: said no, I have no regrets because I believe we

702
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: should be able to get enough push to run the

703
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: ball up the gut. And he also said that he

704
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: believed that with the rollout concept with Eli Manning, that

705
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: there would have been an opportunity to get the football

706
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: into the end zone. So I mean that was his response.

707
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: I don't remember him saying anything about, you know, we

708
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 1: didn't have anything ready to go for Sae Kwon Barkley. Now,

709
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: rus and I blew me id Giants Wire if you

710
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: if you read Giants Wire, well, but but but Giants

711
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Wire well, but Russian Wire was saying that they didn't

712
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: have a play design for sake Kwon Barkley in that situation.

713
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: And if that is the fact, I don't think that's well,

714
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: but but russ My thing is no, no, And I

715
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: get that. I get that if that is true, If

716
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: that's what he said, that's excusable. Well, but I could

717
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: tell you he definitely he didn't say that, because I

718
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: I distinctly went back after the game and I re

719
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: listened always to Pat Shermer's press conference so that when

720
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm coming on the air the next day, I have

721
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: a better grasp of what he says. When I'm listening

722
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: to it live on the radio, sometimes I'm not hearing

723
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: it every single word what I think you read and

724
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: I didn't read it. I'm just interpreting. What you're saying

725
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: is somebody's commentary and interpretation of what Shermer said. But

726
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: Shermer never verbalized anything to the degree of we did

727
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: not have anything or a playbook for St. Kwan Barkley

728
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: in that situation. He just simply said, I do not

729
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: regret the play called Choice, and I was more than

730
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: confident with what we laid out there. We just didn't next.

731
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: And I just want to be clear that everything giants

732
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: Wire has would have came from his press conferences. They

733
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: don't have access to him otherwise. So okay, well, I'll

734
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't do Twitter if I if I find that article,

735
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: that's snip. But I'll see if I have a friend

736
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: of mine who's got Twitter, and I'll i'll tweet it up.

737
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely happen to do that. That's what he said.

738
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: And it's just if that's you know, if that's what's

739
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: going on with the coaches staff, you know, not even

740
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: so much that. Let me go back up a little

741
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: bit more. But when we did you get that penal team,

742
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: he let it bother them for three for a long time,

743
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: he's got to let everything go. And he's always they're

744
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: always talking about the adult in the room and leading

745
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: by example. The call didn't go your way. You can't

746
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: blame the officials for everything. I mean, it was a

747
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: terribly officiated game, but you have to let that go.

748
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Let it bother you. I think

749
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: that's fair. You know, I think that you let the

750
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: whole team. Bob is the whole team for I don't

751
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: know about. I think that's a bit of a leap ross.

752
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we know that for sure. And and

753
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: thanks a lot for the call. I appreciate it. And

754
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: then trust me, we we we understand your stuff on

755
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: the situational play calls. We talked about that earlier. We

756
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: get it, and we understand your opinion. And if I'm

757
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: a giant fan out there, yeah, se Kwan is your

758
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: best player. Who do you want the ball in the

759
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: hands of as much as you can't see Kue, I

760
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: get it. If you're looking at it from a very

761
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: general perspective, I get it. Trust me. They have plenty

762
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: of play designs for Sae Kwon Barkley for third in

763
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: one place. They have plenty of them. I can promise

764
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: to that. I've seen them practice in a training camp.

765
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: They have loads of them. They just decided not to

766
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: call those plays in those particular situations. And that's the

767
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: best I can give you. Yeah, that's exactly how it

768
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: played out, and I get it. It's frustrating because when

769
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: you get in the red zone, you've got to be

770
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: able to capitalize, especially when your defense gives up five touchdowns.

771
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: And that was the biggest charity between both of these teams,

772
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: the inability to cash in when they were moving the football.

773
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: But it reminds me somewhat of the conversation. I don't

774
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: want to go back to last season, but if you

775
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: remember John the game in Philadelphia last year, and how

776
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: much did we talk after that game, And that was

777
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: a game, by the way, where they took Barkley out

778
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: for a series. Remember they put Wayne Coleman in and

779
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: that single handling lost the game, by the way, well

780
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: one because even though Wayne Coleman actually ran the ball

781
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: effectively and they were penalized because of a holding call

782
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: that backed them up Sae kwon Barkley's in the game,

783
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: the game would have completely turned out differently. It's all

784
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: about not having context in those situations start as everything

785
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: out noted five one three. Hi MARCOH he's in Connecticut.

786
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: What's up, buddy? What's up? Guys? How are you doing

787
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: a couple of things? So I'm not going to, you know,

788
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: get into the whole tight end thing because I feel

789
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: like we could do that every week and it's beyond frustrating.

790
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: Um that, like, you know, the middle of the field

791
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: just seems to be wide open all the time. UM,

792
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: I have a point to I want to bring up

793
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: to that in terms of why I called, but um,

794
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna want and I'm I'm this is not

795
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: a week one overreaction. But one thing I am keeping

796
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: an eye on is the better defense. It's a year

797
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: uh and again into it, and it's like, I'm still

798
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: looking for what the staple of this defense is and

799
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: I can't figure it out. Like yesterday, were watching the

800
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: game who Who? Was? Like, what was the game plan

801
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: to take away who? Yesterday? If you like, if I

802
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: watched the Patriots, I know are anomaly, but they Belichick

803
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: will always take away one aspect of your best part

804
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: of the game. I don't know who we're trying to

805
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: take away guests, Marco and I don't know this for sure,

806
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: but simply what I saw from looking at the tape

807
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: is that they were trying to take away the Cowboys

808
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: running game. That would be my guess. Okay, that would

809
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: be my guest. I don't know if it's true or not,

810
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: but that would be my guess. Well, I mean, we

811
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: got gassed in the secondary, so it's possible. But um here,

812
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: here's a question for you guys. So in the offseason,

813
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: you guys had an interview, uh and I always think

814
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: about you had an interview with South Palestonio. Remember when

815
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: you had an It was a great, great and a

816
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: great interview. And he was really high on just some

817
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: masters of the Giants that maybe some other people necessarily weren't.

818
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: And when he talked about not having a premier pass pressure,

819
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: he brought up the Patriots so last year and he

820
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: and he said, he was like, listen, he was like,

821
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: he thought, like the new wave of the NFL, maybe

822
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: the Giants were getting ahead of it, was more impact

823
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: players in the secondary beat it with a group of

824
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: guys rather than maybe just one guy. And and that's

825
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: how we're going to friend. And I wrapped my head

826
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: around that, and I thought, with now, we do have use.

827
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: But if you really look at the guys in the

828
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: in these like the main cogs like Ogil Tree, but say,

829
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: who's I know he's new, but he's been in the

830
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: Betcher defense before. Like for me, and I'm just a fan,

831
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: but for me, these guys should be tying this defense together.

832
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: And I thought about what Palentonio said, and I'm thinking

833
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: about the guys that we have on the team right now,

834
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: and I just I'm frustrated because I'm I think they're

835
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: going to pull it together. I truly do, because I

836
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: think it's one game in Dallas, is I top They

837
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: might be a top three team when it's all said

838
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: and done after the end of the year. They're that good.

839
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: But what do you think about what south Palentonio said?

840
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: Do you think there's something to that? Like can that team?

841
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: Can our team do something similar to that? Maybe just

842
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: we could win with numbers rather than just like we

843
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: don't need the one guy. That's a good theory, but

844
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: the lynchpin to the theory is that the secondary has

845
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: to be able to play well and the secondary play

846
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: like you know what on Sunday. I mean, yeah, theoretically

847
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: could work, but Lance the second Dary is gonna play

848
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: a lot better if you want to go that direction.

849
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: And you just didn't get that from the young guys

850
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: or the veterans in the game on something. I mean,

851
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: the secondary has to be opportunistic. The secondary has to

852
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: play heads up football, get their hands in passing lays.

853
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what New England did last year. Let's

854
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: start simple. Don't give up big plays. Let's start the

855
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: simple stuff. Don't give up big plays or don't have

856
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: misques where guys are getting wide open. Yes, I mean

857
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: it don't. It's one thing if you get beat like

858
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: DeAndre Baker or Marii Cooper on you not the same

859
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: when Blake Jarwin is wide open and Dad basically has

860
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: ten seconds to throw him the foot or Randall Cobbs

861
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: running down the middle of the field and you then

862
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: you literally can't figure out who's supposed to cover him.

863
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: That's bad. Now, as far as sal Pal's point to

864
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: answer your question, I slightly disagreed with what he had

865
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: to say during that interview, right, and his point was,

866
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: if you remember that quarterbacks are getting rid of the

867
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: football quicker and quicker in Tenney's NFL okay, and as

868
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: a result, of that, he said, that's why he doesn't

869
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 1: know whether or not people should emphasize the pass rush.

870
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: You've got to have good secondary players, and I think

871
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: there's validity behind that. But here's where I differentiate from

872
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: where he stands. New England and the Giants both had

873
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: thirty sacks last season. Okay, they were both identical, which

874
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: is remarkable, and why is it New England went on

875
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl and the Giants finished where

876
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: they were. Well, I would argue, if you go to

877
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 1: the playoffs, New England did have a pass rug. See

878
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: this is what I think is a little misleading. You

879
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: go to that playoff game against Philip Rivers and the Chargers,

880
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 1: the Chargers gave up pressure. Rivers was not as clean

881
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: as he was throughout the regular season. Jared Goff had

882
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: some pressure in his face in that Rams game. I'm

883
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: not saying they went out and they got ten sacks,

884
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about they were getting quarterback hit. The

885
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: Patriot blitz a lot in the post. They were making

886
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks feel uncomfortable. So you could tell me during

887
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: the regular season New England maybe got away with thirty

888
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: sacks and rely on a good secondary. The dynamics of

889
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: what Bill Belichick was calling in the playoffs completely was different.

890
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, you better have

891
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: some semblance Marco of a pass rush because it's going

892
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: to come back to bite you eventually. You can only

893
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: get away with it for so long. Yeah. I don't

894
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: have much to say after that, guys. I just wanted

895
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: you to clarify and I also maybe bring to light

896
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: a little bit. Antonio Hamilton's again a ton of blame today.

897
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: He's like the oh god, what's his name from Brown's

898
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: video about the c C Brown on me? Oh no,

899
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: but the set that played alongside Curtis. Yeah, he's the

900
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: Curtis Riley scapegoat of the you know, of of week one.

901
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: But I'm curious, was he really like what was the

902
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: percentage of snaps? Was he in more so than Baker

903
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: and Valentine Hamilton's played to the snapsheed Marco, So he

904
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: played thirty six snaps and Baker played war Baker played

905
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: so he was five less snaps than Hamilton's. Grhat Haley

906
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: was your slock corner. He played forty three and Jenkins

907
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: played every defensive snap. He played sixty eight. That's actually funny.

908
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: When you look at it, the Cowboys ran sixty nine,

909
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: the Giants ran sixty nine offensive snaps, the Cowboys ran

910
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: sixty eight, so they actually even out by the end

911
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: of the game. Well, and that's also I think what

912
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: time of possession also somewhat even doubt or got much

913
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: closer than it was for the majority of the game

914
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: because at the end, I mean, Dallas was playing prevent.

915
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: They knew they were comfortable and they weren't going to

916
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: push the envelope at that stage. Hey, look and Dallas

917
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: is good. They're a very good team. We tried to

918
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: stress that heading into the game last week, and that

919
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: the Giants had to play really well and maybe the

920
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys not so well. With the Giants to win, the

921
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys came out of playing a game. And I wonder

922
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: too how much some of the new stuff they did

923
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: with Kellen Moore, because we've seen the Cowboys a lot

924
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: on the Jason Garrett playing the Johns, you see him

925
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: a lot. They did some stuff in that game, the

926
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: way they set up the receivers guys in motion. I

927
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: don't know how much the actual plays were different, but

928
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: there was a lot of window addressing on that did

929
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: not look like what the Cowboys used to do traditionally.

930
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: I wonder how much that's screwed up some of how

931
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: the Giants were communicating and figuring out their assignments. Kellen

932
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: Morris spoke briefly after the game John and he was

933
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: asked about what new tricks did you have up your sleeve?

934
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: And he need give an awfu lot, but he said

935
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: they wanted to run a lot of motion before the

936
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: play misdirection. And also there was a lot of crossing

937
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: routes that I noticed that hadn't necessarily been a big

938
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,959
Speaker 1: staple as part of the Dallas offense in years past.

939
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, bunch formations too, where you get

940
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: some natural picks and rubs and stuff like that to

941
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: get guys out into open space so that then they

942
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: can get yak yardage, which clearly worked in their favor

943
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: yesterday to five on three. Let's go to line one,

944
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: Let's go to LOWI and California. He's up next. What's up, Loue?

945
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: Hey guys, how are you doing all right? Um? Real quick,

946
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: I just want to talk about the positives of the

947
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: game yesterday. I know everyone's focusing on the negatives, but um,

948
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: first and foremost, one of our weakest points used to

949
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: be an offensive line. I thought they played really well yesterday,

950
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: considering uh, Dallas's defense is really good. Um. I thought

951
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: our receivers played really well. I was surprised with Latimer's

952
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: play and Um haven ingram Uh probably career game for

953
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: him as far as like Um catches and and he

954
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: was wide open. Nothing on offense looked really improved our

955
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: defense obviously, I mean it's it's glare, and there there

956
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: were some issues. I think one thing that has come

957
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: back to haunt us. And if you look at Dallas's

958
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: defense as comparison, I mean they spent like first and

959
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: second round picks on linebackers and when we choose not

960
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: to ever really drafted linebacker that high, and you can

961
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: see the glaring difference yesterday. Well, I can tell you,

962
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: just to make you feel better, the Giants had their

963
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: eyes on a couple of linebackers in the first round

964
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: this year. So that and with with with the new regime,

965
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: that's going to be in the mix moving forward. This

966
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: is not the regime prior, so I would not be

967
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: surprised if that becomes a priority as the Giants move

968
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: ahead here. But I do think you bring up a

969
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: good point in terms of what the Cowboys are working

970
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: with personnel wise, the speed diversatility at that linebacker position

971
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: changes there. I mean, I mean, Lou, I'm gonna ask

972
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: you this in lance. This If you put the Giants

973
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,479
Speaker 1: eleven or you know, twelve, if you want to count

974
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: the slock corner twelve top defensive players next to the

975
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys top twelve defensive players, and you mix them up

976
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: and you try to find your eleven best players, how

977
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: many of those eleven players are Giants. It's good time serious.

978
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: That's a good question, right exactly, And I think, but

979
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're seeing. Dave Gentleman this first

980
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: two years has done a lot to try to rebuild

981
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: the offense, right like you, I think you made a

982
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: great point. I and I should have said this at

983
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: the start. I didn't. This is the best I've seen

984
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: a Giants offensive line play against a good defensive front

985
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: in like half the day, in like half a decade.

986
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: They were excellent. Eli had time, there was holes in

987
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: the running game for sake, Quon Barkley. They were really

988
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: really good. And you know, Evan Ingram has done done

989
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: good stuff. But look, they've been tearing this defense down

990
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: and they've only started with this year's draft to build

991
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: it back up again. And it's just not there yet.

992
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: They don't have the horses yet, which is why, you know,

993
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: you can't make these fundamental errors when you're already kind

994
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: of behind the eight ball in terms of having the horses,

995
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: because the process is ongoing on this defensive side of

996
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: the ball. It's it's just it's just not there yet.

997
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: And it takes time also for corners to just get

998
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: used to the National Football League, for example. And I'll

999
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: let you continue. I don't mean to go drop Ji

1000
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: r Alexander the Green Bay Packers. You know, he's a

1001
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: very young corner. He played very good against the Bears,

1002
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: but he had a rough goal last season which was

1003
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: very up and down, and Steven Gilmour's first couple of

1004
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: years he was terrible and now he was one of

1005
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: the best cornerbacks in football. You're right, it just takes time.

1006
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Looke. Yeah, yeah, that brings up to my

1007
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: last point. They showed a statlet yesterday of the game

1008
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: about draft picks that was still on the team from

1009
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen. The Giant had to sterling Shepard, Paul Perkins. Meanwhile,

1010
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: Dallas had like I think it was five or six players.

1011
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: So I'm a true fan in Dave Gettleman's plan. And

1012
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: takes more than one or two years to totally transform

1013
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: a team that we weren't drafting good for many years.

1014
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: And now we see, I mean, he focused on his line,

1015
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: it's better. Our offense is better in general. We have

1016
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: a lot of young players on defense, and like you said,

1017
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: it takes time and they'll get experience and then let's

1018
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: see what they do and this, you know, I mean,

1019
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: I want to see the season. I have high hopes

1020
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: for the season as far as being more competitive, but

1021
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: in upcoming drafts, like building on that defense, building on

1022
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: players um and building solid unions. So uh anyway, just

1023
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: I definitely have more hope than a lot of these

1024
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: fans are having right now. I see the improvement and

1025
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm just looking forward to a better season. Thank you

1026
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: appreciate the call. Hey, Look, I think there's reason to

1027
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: be optimistic about the offense. And look, I was optimistic

1028
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: before the season, so maybe you know that's just me

1029
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: continuing what I was before. But I what they moved

1030
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: the ball pretty well. I think this offense is gonna

1031
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: be a good unit. Now they have to get better

1032
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: with third downs and red zone and stuff like that.

1033
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: Shore but I saw the makings of what's going to

1034
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: be a pretty darn good offense this year. I think, well,

1035
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: I think the numbers showcase positives in terms of statistically

1036
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: what they were able to put out there. Evan Ingram,

1037
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: who we didn't really bring up at the top of

1038
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: the show, you're right, I mean, he had a heck

1039
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: of the game. It was unfortunately they couldn't take advantage

1040
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: of a number of his big plays, with the exception

1041
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: of the touchdown on the first drive. I think what

1042
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: has happened more often than not, even in years past,

1043
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: the Giants just tend to shoot themselves in the foot

1044
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: John on offense, even when you have a lot of

1045
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: the positives. For example, I will say this, they did

1046
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: have fewer negative plays than they have in years passed.

1047
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: They actually did a really good job keeping those in

1048
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: a minimum. With runs for loss and sacks, those were

1049
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: way down. No, and you're right, I mean they didn't

1050
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: have I think actually they only had one negative running

1051
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: place sae Quon Barkley lost two yards and that was

1052
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: actually on a play in which MALIEK Collins was called

1053
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: for unnecessary roughness in red zone. So if it didn't

1054
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: really even come back to bite them. But the penalties,

1055
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: I guess is what I'm referring to John, whether they're

1056
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: right or wrong. The intentional grounding, Okay, that came back

1057
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: to bite them. Will Hernandez had a holding penalty, Mike

1058
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: Remer is a false start on a second and seven,

1059
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: so now it's a third and twelve. You know, those

1060
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: are the types of things. They weren't overwhelming. Okay, that

1061
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: that four offensive penalties, that's not terrible. But when you

1062
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: don't have as many possessions, you don't have as many

1063
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: at bats as I like to call it building a

1064
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: parallel to baseball, you just can't afford to have those

1065
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: type of mental mistakes. Ye, I'm with you, Will in

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1070
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: going on? Will? I'm doing good? A guys, how are

1071
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: you doing? Were great? So? Alright? So I initially was

1072
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: like most fans really frustrated about the game. You guys

1073
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: have kind of talked me down from my frustration a

1074
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: little bit listening to your talk about half an hour.

1075
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: So hey, look, well, well, honestly, there are reasons to

1076
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: be frustrated about the defense. I'm not gonna tell you

1077
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: there's not trust me. There are people upstairs in this

1078
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: building that are very frustrated about the defense. To trust me. Yeah, yeah,

1079
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: And look, I'm obviously really frustrated about the defense. They

1080
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: made Dakas look like Dan Marino yesterday. But there are

1081
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: there there are a few things about the offense that

1082
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: I would have liked to seeing Differently, take Kwan touching

1083
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: the ball three eleven rushes, I think is an excuse

1084
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: the ball. I really think you should have touched the

1085
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: ball more. Zeke rushed the ball for thirteen times even

1086
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: in Tago Olive training camp. There there's no reason for sake, Kwon,

1087
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: don't touch the ball free love and rushes. Well, well,

1088
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: if I could just jump in here and I'll let

1089
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: you continue. I think part of that is remember the

1090
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: game flow. Okay, you're down seven, all of a sudden,

1091
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: the game is starting to get out of hand. It's

1092
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: twenty to ten. For the sake of having to move

1093
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: the football, it's difficult to just commit to the run.

1094
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: So I think game flow is hard. Of the rationale

1095
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: is to kan Barkley only ran the ball eleven touch

1096
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: You want to sit here and you want to say, hey,

1097
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: they should have out the ball in his hands more,

1098
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: maybe through screens in other plays. I'll hear you out

1099
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: on that, but I think it's explainable why he only

1100
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: ran the ball eleven times in a game that just

1101
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: like that, they were trailing by eight team multiple touchdowns.

1102
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: So what my my rebuttal to that would be under

1103
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: conventional situations and logic, I would completely agree with you.

1104
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: But when you're running back his averaging eleven yards per

1105
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: attempt and you're averaging seven yards per passing, I don't

1106
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: care if you're losing by three points the thirty three points,

1107
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: you can run the ball down. The Cowboys throat in

1108
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: that situation. Pat Shermer and his press came uh his

1109
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: post game conference, and obviously if you watch the game

1110
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: as well, so the Cowboys were playing too deep coverage

1111
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: the entire time. One of the writers asked them one

1112
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: one of the one of the writers asked him about

1113
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: who are you know? Are you okay with the dump

1114
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 1: off passes? And he said, hey, we've got too deep coverage.

1115
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: We can't throw the ball, push the ball down the field.

1116
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: You don't beats that coverage running the ball down their throat.

1117
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: You have stake one one on one with a safety

1118
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: on a run if you get Zeitler matched up one

1119
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: of those line packers, and how many rushes do you no? No, no, Now,

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00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: remember that that question that when you're talking about the

1121
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: soft coverages was in references to third and longs. That's

1122
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: when he referenced the soft coverages. The Coboys played a

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00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: lot more cover three in that game than that they

1124
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: cover two, which is too deep. So I think the

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00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: question you're you're looking at is the one where he

1126
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: was talking about what the cab was doing on third down.

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00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: And just to take a quick couple closer looks at

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Speaker 1: se Quon's numbers. His first rush was fifty or sixty

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00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: fifty nine yards, so he ran ten times after that

1130
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: for a total of sixty one yards. Still excellent numbers.

1131
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: That's about six yards per pop. But it's not the

1132
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: ten or eleven per pop that that you're looking at

1133
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: when when you look at the overall numbers, because obviously

1134
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: that one run is is going to skew the percentages

1135
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: a little bit in terms of the first half, in

1136
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: terms of run plat, run past splits. Pardon me, the Giants,

1137
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: and I had it written down in my game report,

1138
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: which you can find on giants dot com. In the

1139
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: first half, there were twenty passes and five rushes, and

1140
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: that looks really bad on the on the bounce, but

1141
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: you have to remember eight of those passes came in

1142
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: that two minute drill at the end of the half.

1143
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: So you can't run it when you get the ball

1144
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: back with a minute thirteen seconds to go in the half, right,

1145
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: So you gotta take those eight plays and you gotta

1146
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: throw them out right, So then you're down to seventeen.

1147
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, first of all, just seventeen non two

1148
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: minute drill plays for the Giants in the first half.

1149
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 1: That's your problem, And yes, only five out of seventeen.

1150
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: Is that an issue? Sure? But my argument is that

1151
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: the Giants on two of those drives actually move the ball.

1152
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: They had the first drive of the game, They go

1153
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: right down and they score a touchdown. I believe it

1154
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: was four passes and three runs in that drive or

1155
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: some close to the seven play d and on their

1156
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: second drive they get into Dallas territory and they have

1157
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: the third and one if you complete the pass there

1158
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: or you run for the first down. If you don't

1159
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: have that twelve men on the penalty debacle, uh, you

1160
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: might have to be able to extend to drive and

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00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: give sa Quon the ball more. And then the third

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00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: drive of the half, which is the only other non

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00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: two minute possession they have because of the Mike Grammer's

1164
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: fall start penalty lands mentioned. You're in second and twelve.

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00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 1: You don't want to run the football on second and twelve.

1166
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: That's not a good run situation. So all of a sudden,

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00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: Barkley gets taken out of the mix on that drive. So, yes, look,

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00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I get what you're saying. You look

1169
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: at the box score at the end of the game.

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00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: Will should Barkley have had more touches? Yes, I'm sure

1171
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: on Pat Trember looks at it in his heart of hearts,

1172
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, you know, I probably could have gotten

1173
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: a couple more touches. But I do think to Lance's point,

1174
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: game flow did have something to do with it fair.

1175
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: He may have lost will I guess well, it's fair.

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00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take your silence. It's complete the grants. Thank

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00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: you all for the pau Now good points though, good call,

1178
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,479
Speaker 1: excellent stuff. We appreciate it. All right, let's say hello

1179
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: to Scott in New Mexico and then Len you will

1180
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: be our wrap up. Call Scott, what's up? Great, Scott?

1181
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: What's up? I'm not going to rehash everything that the

1182
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: game is what it is. Dallas scored more points than

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00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: we did and that's why they won the profound I'm

1184
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: glad we clarified that the jury was still out on

1185
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: that one. Scott. I feel relieved. I don't know about you,

1186
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: but anyway, go ahead. Uh. The thing that's most disturbing,

1187
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: and I know John, you were at the game, the

1188
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: Giants secondary looked unprepared. And that's the thing that worries me.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to talk about two players specifically. I'm

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00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: not I'm not sure if they were unprepared. I understand

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00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: why you would think they looked unprepared, but can I

1192
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: tell you why? Uh? What I noticed during the game

1193
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: is that some of the backs were looking at each

1194
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: other before the play. Actually began as if who has who,

1195
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: And that's a kind of disturbing thing to me because

1196
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: it shows that there was to me a lack of

1197
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: preparation as to what calls were being made, etcetera. Also,

1198
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about Jabill, Peppers and and Trumpette

1199
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Speaker 1: because they were touted in the beginning of this season preseason,

1200
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: rather that they would be the answers to the equation

1201
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: about not making sure what happened yesterday happened. And I

1202
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: think that the Dallas team had six plays over twenty

1203
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: yards or more yards with those all through the air. Yes, right,

1204
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: and that's not supposed to happen, and no matter what

1205
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: team you have defensively, So I'm wondering where was the

1206
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: adjustments that had to be made in the second half

1207
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: forgetting what happened in the first half. I didn't see

1208
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: any adjustments, and the real key like leaving DeAndre Baker,

1209
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: a rookie on single coverage with Marie Cooper, some of

1210
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: it just didn't make any sense. And I'm wondering as

1211
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: you go into the Buffalo game if the changes are

1212
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: going to be made finally where it becomes a more

1213
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: conducive secondary because if they don't have a pass for us,

1214
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 1: then they have to rely on the secondary much more

1215
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 1: than they would normally do. When I was just wondering

1216
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: if they can make that change, make those changes in

1217
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: a week, and if with my astimation that they were

1218
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: actually looking at each other and so forth, and and

1219
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: I'll take your answers off the one appreciate you. I

1220
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: I think what you have to understand is, you know,

1221
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: Dallas poses a different challenge than Buffalo, and Buffalo is

1222
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: going to pose a different challenge than Tampa Bay. And

1223
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: then they're gonna play the Redskins. So you can't look

1224
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 1: at it as if you know this week is well,

1225
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: we take the same game plan, we make the adjustments,

1226
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: and everybody's great. Dallas can line up Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup,

1227
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, Blake, Jarwin Slast, Jason Winnen and also has

1228
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: Zeke and those three wide receivers, by the way, all

1229
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: would be the best wide receiver on the Buffalo Bills

1230
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: more than likely or not. So the challenge that the

1231
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills personnel is going to pose, I don't think

1232
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: it's in the same ballpark as Dallas. Now, that doesn't

1233
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: mean that you know those guys don't get paid to

1234
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: play hard. But you know, John Brown and company, I

1235
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily putting the fear in the eyes

1236
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: of James Betcher as perhaps what Jason Garrett and that

1237
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: offense is going to throw out there so order, the

1238
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: Bills have Ezekiel Elliott correct, you know, thefensive line, all

1239
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: these Josh Allen has less experience than Dak Prescott correct. Now.

1240
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: I would argue that I think Buffalo's defense is legit,

1241
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: and I think they showed that yesterday against the Jets,

1242
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't underestimate that group. And if they can

1243
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: keep the Giants offense in check, that means, you know,

1244
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: they are going to do their job and perhaps this

1245
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: game will be a little bit more comfortable than perhaps

1246
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people are anticipating it. I would not

1247
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: overlook Buffalo simply, is what I'm saying, just because they're

1248
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: not equivalent to Dallas on the offensive in But to

1249
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: get back to Scott's point, John, I don't think James

1250
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: Betcher is saying to himself that the game plan is

1251
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: going to be identical for what they did to slow

1252
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: down Dallas with Buffalo clearly week to week things change,

1253
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: things are altered. So I don't think you could look

1254
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: at it simply as well, this is what went wrong

1255
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: in Dallas. We're gonna redo this and everything's gonna be great.

1256
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna put guys in different spots because of the

1257
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: personnel that Buffalo showcases. And look, and here's the thing too,

1258
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: these guys are on the field together in preseason, right,

1259
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: that counts for something. Yeah, However, what you see in

1260
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: preseason is often very vanilla because you're not correct both

1261
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: sides of the ball for both teams. So with the

1262
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys put out there on the field in week one

1263
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: is stuff that these guys haven't had to figure out

1264
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: on the field in the game situation yet. Together. Now,

1265
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: if we're two weeks from now, heck even next week,

1266
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: and you've seen the same type issues of free runners

1267
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: running all over the place, you've got a big problem.

1268
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: But it's the first time out for the group together.

1269
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: And it's not fair to just blame the young guys

1270
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: because you mentioned these safeties of veterans and they were

1271
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: part of the problems too, depending on the play look at.

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Speaker 1: So you hope that this week is a good learning

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00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: experience for them. They figure it out and they can

1274
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: make those corrections going forward. The other thing I want

1275
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: to add Job before we go back to the lines,

1276
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: And I'm curious whether or not this is something worthy

1277
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: of throwing out in the conversation. You know you brought

1278
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: up the preseason. Keep in mind, you know Baker was

1279
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: in and out of the line up during the preseason. John,

1280
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: I just wonder for the young guy's sake, not so

1281
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: much the veterans, because I wouldn't argue that Antoine Bethane

1282
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: needs extra snaps in the preseason. The Bakers in Hamilton's

1283
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: that the guys you're talking about. Yeah, the fact that

1284
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: they were in and out of practice and out of

1285
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: the lineup. And it goes back to the last Cohler's

1286
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: point about he saw guys looking at each other and

1287
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 1: maybe misqus and not being on the same page. Well,

1288
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: if you don't have a lot of game reps out there,

1289
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: whether you're game planning for an opponent or not, did

1290
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,439
Speaker 1: that perhaps impact them? Yesterday's good something to at least

1291
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: think about. Doesn't mean it's a rationale behind it. I

1292
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: know he's not happy and he gets to wrap us

1293
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: up today. Hello, Len Well, Actually Len didn't have to

1294
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: worry about Nate Stupar being active or inactive as he

1295
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: called in last week. So I'm sure he's all smiles. Now, yeah,

1296
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's thrilled. Well, he brought it up last week,

1297
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: so I just thought i'd get it out right. There,

1298
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: are you guys through talking? Well, we're gonna let your

1299
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: are you my discussion of all of this, the fact

1300
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: that you're plenty but to us about talking too much

1301
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: as areas, by the way, go ahead. I can't say

1302
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: anything more than U to start this whole thing off.

1303
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: But listen, Um, I think we'll get better. Um. I

1304
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: just I just think this was a bad day. I

1305
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: think it was just a bad day for us. And uh,

1306
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: but John, I think you hit the nail on the

1307
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: head when you compare it to this team. I mean

1308
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: we faced a good team yesterday, playing good. That team

1309
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: was ready to play, they looked excited about playing, they functioned. Uh,

1310
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: they were just all over that game. I mean, there's

1311
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: no other way to look at it. It made us.

1312
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: It made us look bad. Um, and sometimes that happens.

1313
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: But I don't think we put our best foot forward yesterday.

1314
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: And um, I mean you know it's it's game one.

1315
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: So if you're a fan, you gotta believe that over

1316
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: the next fifteen we're gonna, you know, we're gonna play

1317
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: a little better than we played yesterday. But John, you

1318
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head. The disparity and talent

1319
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: is off the shark. I mean, you can't, like you said,

1320
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: mix up the you know twenty two. You know, pick

1321
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: mix up are r eleven on defense against their eleven

1322
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: on defense and pick eleven guys and you're probably going

1323
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: nine from Dallas to from the Giants, you know. I mean,

1324
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: you get into that kind of thing and not going

1325
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: to the off side of the pool and you and

1326
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: you probably get the same thing. Um. I know Coach

1327
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: Sherman and I hate to keep beating on this, but

1328
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: I hope. I know Coach Shermer likes fullbacks on the roster,

1329
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: and I know he likes this particular fullback. He said

1330
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: a lot of good things about a logic Alijah Penny,

1331
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: but he's got them overrated, guys, He's got them overrated.

1332
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: You can't run. You can't line up in an efe.

1333
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: Oh you can if you want. Uh, you can't line

1334
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: up in an eye formation. Um with Sae Kwon Barkley

1335
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: as your tailback, and Elijah Penny up front and run Penny.

1336
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna run Penny, flank out, flank

1337
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: out Barkley. Uh, put him side by side and said

1338
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: Barkley in motion, Um, you can't run a large your

1339
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: penny there. I mean it's I mean, it's what what

1340
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: he said. We thought we could make that play. When

1341
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: was the last time, Ah, your penny gained two yards

1342
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: on a run. He wasn't for two years. I mean,

1343
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Colling, he's not going to carry the ball

1344
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: five times this year. He carried it twice yesterday, you know.

1345
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: And you know the wide receivers. I think you're you

1346
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: know your panel, your panel, Well, I'm sorry you didn't

1347
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: want to say ahead, go ahead, ahead, okay, all right now, Um,

1348
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: you know we were talking about the wide receivers in

1349
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: the pass rush. You know five Scott mentioned five six plays.

1350
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: I think Lance brought that up at the beginning of

1351
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: the show. Five or six plays passed plays over twenty yards.

1352
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: The one thing when you you need when you complete

1353
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: a pass play down the field for twenty yards or

1354
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: further than that. Did he do you need time? I mean,

1355
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: there was no pass rush. There was no pressure on

1356
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 1: him to throw the ball. Um on the other side

1357
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: of the on the other side of the line. Um,

1358
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: you know, they're Russian four. Dallas is Russian four, and

1359
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: they're not getting near Eli. I mean, Eli had some time.

1360
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: But you look down the fielding the seven guys back

1361
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: there against our wide receivers. Now, look, look, I'm gonna

1362
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: give you three names. Corey Lattimer, uh, the guy we

1363
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: just picked up from Cincinnati, and Russell Shepard. Okay, three guys.

1364
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: They've played more games in the NFL than they have catchers.

1365
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: They played all three of them, and Fowler is just

1366
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: about over with more catchers than games played. I mean,

1367
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: these are not these are not rookies. These are but

1368
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: they're mainly they're mainly special teams players during the course

1369
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: of their careers. Wonder he's dumping passes off Can you

1370
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: just hear us out for a second here, please, They

1371
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: are mainly special teams players during the course of their careers.

1372
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: And if you want me to, I will bring up

1373
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: their snap count on offense. Please don't previously before they

1374
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: got to the Giants, you know, you can't just throw

1375
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: out those statements Land and not provide the proper context.

1376
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes it look like you're bringing in

1377
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: Joe Schmo playing wide receiver, and I get it, you're irritated.

1378
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: But Cody Core, you go back and look at how

1379
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: many offensive snaps he played with the Cincinnati Bengals. Cody

1380
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: Latimer was not a main wide receiver with Denver for

1381
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: the majority of his career, and Russell Shepard two was

1382
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: mainly a special teams guy. So those numbers really don't

1383
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: tell much of anything about their careers. Well, what does

1384
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: it say about our wide receiver corps? Well, it means that,

1385
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: which is what the point is, they're all special teams guys. Well, no,

1386
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: it just means that the Giants now are giving them

1387
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: more opportunities to play wide receiver than they had in

1388
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: the early stages of their fantasy. Do you really think

1389
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: the Giants wide receiver play yesterday had anything to do

1390
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: with them losing that game? I think there was a

1391
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: recent why Eli was dumping the ball off and he

1392
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: and he's taking criticism for it. And then Daniel Jones

1393
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: gets in the game, and what does Daniel Jones doll

1394
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: want his three passes? He completes three passes, the seventeen yards.

1395
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: He's dumping him off too, because there's nothing down the field. Now,

1396
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: A lot of it has to do with the seven guys,

1397
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: really good football players, understanding their role. With a tremendous

1398
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: amount of speedback there. That makes a big difference. But look,

1399
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: those three wide receivers aren't gonna scare anybody. Guys, they're

1400
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: not gonna what we miss Golden tap. Your panel said

1401
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: it last week. I said it three weeks ago. We're

1402
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: really missing Golden Tape. We need another professional wide receiver

1403
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: out there to take a little pressure off there. There

1404
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: was nothing down the field. John, Now you want to

1405
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: credit the delle gate of all the credit to the

1406
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I mean, I'm watching the Redskins yesterday and

1407
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: how the Eagles don't have the best defensive backfield. I

1408
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: I understand that, But the red Skins are getting open.

1409
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: They're finding an open spot. They find an open spots,

1410
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: wide open spot and a bunch of young wide receivers.

1411
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: If if you think the giant wide receiver call right

1412
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: now without Golden Tate is a top thirty in the

1413
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: NFL and it's gonna threaten Buffalo next Sunday, I think

1414
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: you made a mistake. Take back. I think we need

1415
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: better play calling. We're gonna be We're gonna be a

1416
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: better team with jeez, I hope. So I think we're

1417
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: going to be a better team. Well, to answer your question, line,

1418
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: I thank you. Then we gotta go appreciate the call.

1419
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: I I don't think that's necessarily going to scare Buffalo

1420
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: because Buffalo has got a really good defense and those

1421
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: guys could cover on the back end. Okay, you look

1422
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: at who the Bills have at the safety position. You

1423
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: look at who the Bills have at the cornerback position.

1424
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: I would argue that the Bills have a top five

1425
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: secondary in the National Football League right now. So you know,

1426
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: you could throw out golden tape. There's still not going

1427
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: to be scared of those guys. And the Jets had

1428
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: Levian Bell, that Jamison Crowder, okay, that Robby Anderson, that

1429
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: Quincy and Noon Wa Okay, and you're gonna argue I'm

1430
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: sure that those guys are more proving as wide receivers.

1431
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: And some of the guys the Giants are thrown out

1432
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,439
Speaker 1: there and the Bills were not scared of them. So

1433
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta look at the fact that Dallas

1434
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: has a really good secondary. Okay, you could sit here

1435
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: and tell me that you don't love their names. Uh cheeto,

1436
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: a woozi, A legitimate cover corner Byron Jones. You know,

1437
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 1: Byron Jones didn't have one hit reception last year and

1438
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: he still made the Pro Bowl. How do you think

1439
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: he made the Pro Bowl? He made the Pro Bowl

1440
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: because he's a really good cover guy and he's played

1441
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: safety in corner. So you know, part of it is

1442
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: because of the personnel that the Cowboys had and that

1443
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: they were thrown out there. Jordan lewis another young guy.

1444
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys have come a long way with

1445
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: respect of the Dallas secondary. Now I get his point,

1446
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: John about the fact that those may not be putting

1447
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: fear in the eyes of defensive coordinates to say we

1448
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: got a double team. Cody Latimer. Cody Latimer also made

1449
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: a forty three yard catch too, when he had a

1450
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: guy right on his hip and he still made the play.

1451
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: So I think these guys are more of the cable

1452
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: of making plays. It's just a matter of don't tell

1453
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: me that they didn't do anything earlier in their careers

1454
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: when they were barely utilized on offense. And just don't

1455
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: think that's a fair Syondos wide receivers not a strength

1456
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: of the roster right now with Tate suspended, and that's

1457
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: not we get that on the And they gave up

1458
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham too, I mean we knew that. Going to me,

1459
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with why they lost the

1460
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: game on Sunday. And again, the plays underneath happened once

1461
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys started going through that soft Zonebies are up

1462
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: so big and they don't want to allow any big plays.

1463
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: I made a couple of plays down the field early

1464
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: in the game, the deep past ladderm reinmentioned the one

1465
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: where he made the unbelievable I've never thought I'd see

1466
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: Eli I make as as an athletical places I saw

1467
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 1: make putting his hand on the ground to avoid that

1468
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: fun like the did the Tony Romo reverse spin to

1469
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: find the guy in the silent It was a crazy play.

1470
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: I think that was the Cody Latimer too. It was

1471
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: it was the Cody Latimer and Valer made a nice

1472
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: catch on the sideline John that was a fourth and eight,

1473
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: by the way, and Eli threw a missile to him

1474
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,759
Speaker 1: and he got his knee down before real one tweet

1475
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: real quick at and underscore Tony underscore. Oh, you can't

1476
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: expect the pass for us to get the deck when

1477
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: he's releasing the ball in two seconds. The corners and up,

1478
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: but hands on any receivers off the line the entire game.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Even when they were impressed, I

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Speaker 1: don't think they got enough contact with the wide receivers

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Speaker 1: and oftentimes, especially in the first half, they were playing

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Speaker 1: off and that kind of a ladd a lot of

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Speaker 1: those inside slant routes to get completed very quickly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that was certainly a big part of it,

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Speaker 1: But that goes back to also I think it was

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Speaker 1: Marco who called up when we were talking about the

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Speaker 1: interview we did with sal There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this league that get rid of the football

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Speaker 1: very quickly, but there are also teams that still find

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Speaker 1: a way to get after the quarterback. How did the

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Speaker 1: Steelers in the Chiefs get fifty two sacks last season?

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Speaker 1: If the trend in the National Football League is to

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Speaker 1: get rid of the football, so there's a way to

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Speaker 1: still get after the quarterback, regardless of how quickly the

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Speaker 1: QB is getting rid of the football. And you didn't

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Speaker 1: need to watch that game yesterday to know that the

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Speaker 1: Giants had a lot to prove in the past rushing department. Okay,

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Speaker 1: numbers don't tell the whole story. But when you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of youth and guys who have not had

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Speaker 1: a great deal of NFL experience, to think that they

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Speaker 1: were going to go out there yesterday and pile up,

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Speaker 1: you know, five or six sacks when you were relying

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Speaker 1: on Oshane Ziminez and Lorenzo Carter to do a lot

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Speaker 1: of the heavy lifting, I think is an extreme optimistic outlook. Now,

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Speaker 1: do you expect it to make strides as the season

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Speaker 1: plays out, Absolutely, But this is still a looming question

1507
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: hanging over this team, and it's going to continue to

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01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: be a question mark because I guarantee you the Bills

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Speaker 1: are gonna watch that film and they're gonna look at

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Speaker 1: the fact that the Giants weren't able to get after

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and they're gonna scheme around that to play

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Speaker 1: off of it. Are ready to say goodbye, we're killing

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Speaker 1: our poor interns here. They want to do more work. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think they wanted to do that much more work.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see the enthusiasm over them on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the camera. I think you've given

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Speaker 1: a little too much credit. Good guys, good good job

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Speaker 1: on the phone, guys, A good good job on the board.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your help. I want to remind you that this

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Speaker 1: Always like they get a bunch of new callers, and

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Speaker 1: we've got a lot of calls today. We don't hear

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Speaker 1: from very often, which is great. We love it. Keep

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Speaker 1: calling in. We'll keep getting to your tweets at hastag giantshat.

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure I got that last one

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Speaker 1: at the end, and we'll be back tomorrow. It'll be

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Speaker 1: Paul Detino and Ross Salzburg. That schedule right, even a

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Speaker 1: blind score finds before we close out the show. And

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Speaker 1: what I do wrong? Now, No, you actually didn't do anything. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised that we overlook this. At the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the show. You always complain about something, so it wasn't

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Speaker 1: you know? I was trying to be nice. I know

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Speaker 1: where you're going. A very happy birth. Thank you to you.

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Speaker 1: Still on their forty that's what counts, and you look

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Speaker 1: about fifty five. I do. It's very fitting. It's always

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Speaker 1: a pleasure when you have an older brother that's ten

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Speaker 1: years older than you, when everyone thinks that you're the

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Speaker 1: older brother, it's really depressed. It's extremely fitting. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: we got that drives me nuts. Thank you, very happy.

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Speaker 1: I thought the show ended very nicely, and it was

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Speaker 1: your birthday weeking on. I don't let you, how about

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Speaker 1: a month ago whatever, trying to make it up now,

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Speaker 1: that's only a month at a day. I used to

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Speaker 1: be in with us with seeing Tomorrow at one thirty

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Speaker 1: on Biogle kick Off, have a Audios