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Speaker 3: The Receiver from the Green Bay Packers. Donald River, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, they don't I appreciate it that show.

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Speaker 3: You chose ol Corn State. I looked at your your

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Speaker 1: But it is about opportunities.

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Speaker 2: If you give guys, a young guys opportunity, then they

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Speaker 1: So going in entrepreneurship.

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Speaker 3: Your businessman, smart businessman.

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Speaker 3: You're all about fitness. I know you have a facility

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so driven e lead what I heard. You

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Speaker 1: You remember, remember I did pick me up and slam me.

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Speaker 3: So for the record, I've seen this a little dumb celebration,

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Speaker 1: Scoop kind of thing. So I was a rookie boy.

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Speaker 3: Big Bubba Franks got in my face and he's like

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Speaker 3: I didn't know it like I was, like, I know,

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Speaker 3: I talked trash.

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Speaker 3: I had not evolved at the point, so I was

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Speaker 2: You low when I when I first saw you, I

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Speaker 1: On this Super Bowl day. There it is.

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Speaker 3: I say, okay, I'm just I didn't know if you

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Speaker 1: I know for your okay, okay, it was you should

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Speaker 2: You knocked the ball, you stripped the ball at one time.

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Speaker 2: Should let yeah, I get it, I give you that,

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Speaker 2: ask me that. He was like, who won one?

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Speaker 1: dB? You can't stand I tell him all the time, Pean,

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Speaker 1: I was literally going to ask you that. So who's terrible?

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Speaker 1: I hate there it is. We got it, we got it.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: As we enter the transport portal.

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Speaker 2: Now he's at the University of Minnesota and so he's

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Speaker 1: Host for Good.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to see him receiver Christian, Yeah, yeah, excited.

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, I appreciate you, not really, but I had

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Tell him that his head gonna get big,

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Speaker 3: Mean it can't get like what I mean what I'm

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Speaker 1: Never know what you go get, Babe, step into a

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