1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: What's up? 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: His way up with Angela Yee and we got a 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: Beijing room today because beat as in the building. Yeah, 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: guess interviewing today with Amanda Reefer. 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 3: Hey, what's up? 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: You guys are both from Barbados. 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 3: The art we just phoned. 8 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Oh just no, yes, that's really why it's here. Yeah, 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: left by now. 10 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 4: But I was like, oh, man, smuggle some sweet bread. 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 3: You know, but if I had known you was here, 12 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 3: I would have brought some to you. I didn't know 13 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: you were going to be here. 14 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: Nice time, but I'm so glad to have you here. 15 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: We actually just previewed last week. You're a new song, 16 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: Are You Dumb? 17 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: With Pharrell? A nice classic phar real beat by the way. 18 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm so honored. I feel so blessed 19 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: to have that beat and to be able to be 20 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: on there, like I thank you for playing it. I 21 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 3: appreciate it. 22 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: So let's talk about that song a little bit, and 23 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: even working with Pharrell, because you've had some dream collapse already. 24 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: But we'll get to that in a second. But for Rell, 25 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: how did that happen? 26 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: Oh man? You know, it's a long story really, but 27 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: you know, after working with Kendrick and blast on die 28 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: Hard and sound Wave and then Adahi and all of 29 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: those guys and die Hard being nominated for Grammy and 30 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: all of that. We the creative energy in the room 31 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: was so good that we started working on more and 32 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 3: more records and I co wrote this my whole album 33 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: that's coming with Kendrick. 34 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna talk about that in a yeah. 35 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: And one of the songs that we still we worked 36 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: on while we were working on all these on this 37 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: project was are You Dumb? And the treasure chess of 38 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: of tracks that we went into when we had this track, 39 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: and we were honored that that Pharall was, you know, 40 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: willing to bless us with this track and allow me 41 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,279 Speaker 3: to be on it as well. That's how that came about. 42 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: And to be given the space as a woman in 43 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: music by these prolific men to be able to write 44 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: and record and to put my perspective out on the 45 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: track we just really was an incredible experience. I appreciate 46 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: so much, and these are legends that I admire, our 47 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: masters that I just have been able to get to 48 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: learn from. And so having being blessed with that track 49 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: of during the writing process, that's like an honor. I 50 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: cannot even that's God, That's really God, you know. 51 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: But I think it's also a preparation meets timing type 52 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 2: of thing, you know, because sometimes people might see what 53 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: you're doing now right like they might have heard you 54 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: want to miss him around the big Steppers on die 55 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: Hard and been like okay, but they don't know the 56 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: whole journey to even get to that point where you 57 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: run into Kendrick Lamar and he's been a. 58 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: Long yeah, a long journey. You're right. You know, you're 59 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: a woman in music, and look at the career and 60 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: the legacy you've built and the respect that you've built. 61 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: But it's not easy. It's a long road and I'm 62 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 3: still at the very very beginning. And while people might 63 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: be being introduced to me on these records, you know, 64 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: it's been a long road to get here. You know, 65 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: I used to be the lead singer of a band 66 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: right out of high school or secondary school in Barbado. 67 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 3: I would they say, yeah, yeah, I was a front woman. 68 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: I was of a musical band, and you know, we 69 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: had a lot of success really quickly and in that time. 70 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 3: But as even as the front woman, as a lead singer, 71 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: as a woman I felt like my voice was marginalized. 72 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: And you know, it was hard for me to have 73 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: any independence as a young woman to make my own decisions. 74 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: I didn't have financial independence. I didn't have a creative 75 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: control over what I was singing and talking about, you know, essentially, 76 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: And so going through that and having to find my 77 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: own footing and leave a situation I had known my 78 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: whole life and moved to LA and write for other 79 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: people and put my head down and be in a pandemic. 80 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, all of that, you know, you're with like that, Yeah, and. 81 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: You know you start from you start with nothing like 82 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: but you really got to have the passion and you 83 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: got to you got to commit to something if you 84 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: love it. And that's why I've done over the years. 85 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: And I'm just grateful for all the experiences I've had 86 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: because they've been able to give me something to talk 87 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: about in these rooms, right and for me to stand 88 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: as a woman in my strength and my confidence and 89 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: my ability and to be able to be given the 90 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: space by men like a Pharrell and Kendrick to be 91 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: able to put all that down into a song. 92 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: And two people I've heard of those are the two 93 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: people I heard are very respectful to women when they 94 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: work with them. 95 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my gosh. You know when we were working together, 96 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: all of the everybody had worked with on this album. 97 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: They have really given me the space, like to come 98 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: from an environment where I was surrounded by men but 99 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: not heard to be then have to go through what 100 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: I went through to get sure about myself to them 101 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 3: be in another environment where these prolific men say, yeah, 102 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: we want to hear you. This is a collaborative thing. 103 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: Say what you got to say? That gave me so 104 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: much confidence as a young woman and as an artist 105 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: to show up like multifaceted, to show all the different 106 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: parts of who I am. It gives you the confidence 107 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: to pull it out, you know, so I greatly appreciate that. 108 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: To all those guys in the past, are you dumb? 109 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: Are you dumb to have you on this album? How 110 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: did you guys even hook up? 111 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: So I was invited to a studio that he was 112 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: working out of. I did not know he was going 113 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: to be there, and so to my surprise, he was 114 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: and he you know, he's such a gracious person. He 115 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: allowed me to play him some of the records that 116 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: we have been working on. 117 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: How do you feel playing records for Kendrick like, because 118 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 2: as an artist, sitting down playing music in front of 119 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: somebody has to be a really nerve wracking experience. 120 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 3: Yes, very very nerd. A lot of nerve rackets. 121 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: Are you're looking at their face? Are you looking? Are 122 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: you abab right? 123 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. And he's very still, so you know, 124 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 3: it's like you're kind of you know, and no, but 125 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 3: I was just appreciative for the air, the time he 126 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: took to listen you know again, you know, women, we 127 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: have a hard time being hurt, So just having that 128 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 3: space was incredible, and I had it gave me sort 129 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: of a validation when he obviously complimented my pen and 130 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 3: just just his time gave me a validation I was 131 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,559 Speaker 3: still on the right path, you know, and I felt 132 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: really good. And then to then be invited to work 133 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: on the album because he had a song idea that 134 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: he thought would have been good for me. 135 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: And then you still don't know if it's going to 136 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: make the album. 137 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: I did not know it was going to make the 138 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: album until I heard it. I mean, I knew it 139 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: was like a contender, it was going to be there, 140 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 3: but you just really don't. 141 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: Know it was blessed already on the song too, yes, yep, yep. 142 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: And so to like, you know, be on there as 143 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: a writer and as a performer with these incredible people, 144 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: that was just such an honor, and I'm grateful. I'm 145 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: so grateful. But it's funny because it came at a 146 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: time where I had been praying for a lot of 147 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: help for I was preparing to God for opportunity. I 148 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: had just started working a little bit before that with 149 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: my manager, who's an incredible woman, and she's a big 150 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: reason why I was even in that studio. You know, 151 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: a lot of the opportunity in my life has come 152 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: from really strong, experienced women in my life. You know. 153 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 1: It's great. 154 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: So yeah, So I had been praying for that, but 155 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: it really came at a low point for me because 156 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: I was in writer's block. I felt like I couldn't 157 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: get anything done, and I prayed to God to help 158 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 3: me get out of this, to give me opportunity, to 159 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 3: help me show up. And of course, he said, the 160 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: biggest opportunity of my life, and when I was at 161 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: the lowest of my life. 162 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because you came from like you 163 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: said you were, you were the lead singer for Cover Drive. 164 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: You left Barbados, you moved to London, right or the UK, 165 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: and you guys kind of blew up. 166 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: You were opening on tour for Rihanna. 167 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: At that so our first show we played was for 168 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: Rihanna's Load. 169 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy. That's really like an overnight success story. 170 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: And then to have to leave that situation to go 171 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: solo and kind of start all over again, that's not easy. 172 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't for sure that that period of time 173 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: I think made people. What people experienced through the band 174 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: at that time was a very feel good, fun We're 175 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: from Barbados, We out here making music, and that's what 176 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: we presented. But what was what we were experiencing and 177 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: what I, particularly as the only girl in the band, 178 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: was experiencing you that time was kind of you know, hard. 179 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: It was I didn't have any financial independence. I was 180 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: trying to figure out who I was as a young 181 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: woman in a context which was defined by the guys 182 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: around me and the people who were in control of 183 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: our careers at. 184 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: That time, right, And I saw the manager was the 185 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: drummer's mother. 186 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well okay, yeah. 187 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: So it was a challenging period of time to find 188 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: my footing and who I was and my voice. I 189 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 3: feel like every young woman should be afforded the opportunity 190 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: to speak their perspective and really talk about their experiences 191 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: and learn and be able to make her own decisions, 192 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: because that's how you build confidence in life. 193 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: Sometimes I think also people get jealous because always the 194 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: lead singer gets the most attention. For if I was Lisa, 195 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 2: Lisa was up here. I don't know if you know 196 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: who Lisa Lisa is because you're younger girl, open, but 197 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: she was up here talking about how you know, she 198 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: was the lead singer of the group. It's kind of 199 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: a similar situation. It's guys that are kind of controlling everything, 200 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 2: but it would be interviews and it'd be like, we 201 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: want to talk to Lisa Lisa. And sometimes that also 202 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: that dynamic of like behind the scenes, and then people 203 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: can get a little jealous of everyone. I mean, beautiful 204 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: young girl and then you're the lead singer of the 205 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: group and that's the one that people see really and 206 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: kind of gravitate to. 207 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, women, young girls, we are trained, 208 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: are taught, I feel, to make people feel comfortable, right, 209 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: to keep everyone okay, nay, everything, Yeah, don't be so loud, 210 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: don't don't speak at everything, like you know, small down 211 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: just a little bit, make everyone comfortable. And I think 212 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: that that is a really dangerous thing that a lot 213 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: of young girls go through, whether you're in music, in 214 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: a band, in school, in friendship groups and family dynamics, 215 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: And that is something that I think I definitely was 216 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: dealing with in terms of how do I keep everyone 217 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: around me happy? Right? And how do I But that 218 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: constant self compromise is something that you only inevitably betray 219 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: yourself in because you start to lose trust and confidence 220 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: in yourself. And the more you do that, you give 221 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: other people power. And I found myself for a place 222 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: where I had no power in my own life, and 223 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: that's not good. And there are a lot of great 224 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: things that I can take from that band, and I 225 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: can take from the experiences of and a lot of 226 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 3: blessings that came with it, but there are a lot 227 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: of hard lessons that are even hard for me to 228 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: talk about here. Now. 229 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: Well, you were opening it for Rihanna. Did she give 230 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 4: you any advice? 231 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. We didn't get to see her talk 232 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: for a long time, but we did see her after 233 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 3: the show, and I know you were like, yeah, this 234 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: was so long ago. I was such a baby, and 235 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 3: you know that's the queen, that's that's that's hometown hero there. 236 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 3: So I was definitely in all of her and she 237 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: was very kind and very cool and gracious and beautiful. 238 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: So I have a lot of respect for her and 239 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: for giving us at that time the opportunity that she 240 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 3: gave us. 241 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: I feel like you end up doing something. 242 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: I don't know why she's read Oh my god, because 243 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: I see how she does also look out for other women. 244 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 2: And then you're from where she's from. You know, the 245 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: talent is there. 246 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 3: That's a dream I would I would love to work 247 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,359 Speaker 3: with Rihanna in any capacity because. 248 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: You like put me in the fany there. 249 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: That that way right right, Like she has made me 250 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: and my country were so proud and she inspires me 251 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: and Alison Hines from Martha Allison Hines. Yes, Allison's incredible 252 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: again another legend. We have a lot of legends. There 253 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: are a little tiny islands, don't we do that? 254 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: Customs man? 255 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: What was the breaking point for you though, because at 256 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: a certain point you were like I'm out of here, 257 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: and I know you went to go stay with your 258 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: sister in Canada. 259 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my gosh, you know a lot. Yeah, the 260 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: breaking point for me was, I wow, I got to 261 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 3: a point where I didn't know. I didn't want to 262 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: be here anymore. I didn't I didn't know what I 263 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 3: was doing. And I've always been someone who's so certain 264 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 3: of my life and my purpose and what God has 265 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: called me to do. And I knew that music was 266 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: that for me. But a lot of the a lot 267 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 3: of the clarity and direction and joy that I had 268 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 3: started out with was foggy, you know. And that's hard 269 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: for an artist, like hard for someone who lives by purpose, 270 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 3: because that's how I am, you know. So I got 271 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: to the point where I was just gosh, that's a 272 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 3: tough question. Yeah, I was. I couldn't I couldn't see 273 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: out of it, and I knew. I just kept waking 274 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: up with the gut instinct you got to make a move. 275 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: You got to do what's right for you, you know. Yeah, 276 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 3: And that's a tough thing when it's all you've known. 277 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: I had, that's all I had known. That's my whole 278 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: outside of school, that was my own only experience, and 279 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 3: so I had to walk away from environment that was 280 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: very familiar with. But that wasn't really healthy. And I 281 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: think a lot of a lot of people have to 282 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: do that, a lot of women have to do that 283 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: in relationships, friendships. In my situation, it was the band 284 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: and I so I did that. And at that point too, 285 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 3: I think the whole band, because we had started so young, 286 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: was also interested in doing their own things. Okay, perfect, Yeah, 287 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: and I was yeah, I think, I think, but I 288 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: think me deciding to. 289 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: Do it was the catalyst path. 290 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: No, it wasn't even that, It just I think it 291 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: didn't wasn't received well when I was ready to step out, okay, 292 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: you know when everyone else is, but yeah, yeah, do this. 293 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm glad you. 294 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I thank you, thank you. I'm glad it too. 295 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: It was tough, and I had to start over. I 296 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: had to walk away from everything. I walked away with 297 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: really nothing to show financially for all the work we 298 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: had done. Baby yeah I am you know, even just 299 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: on a social skille everything, Like, I hadn't really been 300 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: afforded the independence of having my own profile or identity 301 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: outside of the band, and so I really had to 302 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: start from scratch and I went home. I got my family, 303 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: which I think is the most important. I got grounded, 304 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 3: I reconnected with everyone, and then after a while I 305 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: was like, all right, I'm moving to LA. And they 306 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: were like, what you're doing? What so you don't got 307 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: no money? What makes you peel? Don't know anybody? Huh? 308 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: What made you say at? Because I know people moved 309 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: to it like they'll be like, I'm going to LA. 310 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 2: And I moved to New York. I moved to Miami y. 311 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: LA music it was I knew. I knew music was 312 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 3: in LA. It I just knew it, and I just 313 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 3: had I just had a gut feeling you were guiding. Yeah, 314 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: And I told my family I still had I had 315 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: a visa at out point, so I was like, I'm 316 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: going to go to LA. And they're They're like, you're crazy, 317 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: you know, But I did it. And that's how I've 318 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: always been, like trying and move on my gut feelings. 319 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: And when I haven't, and I've stayed long in situations 320 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: I shouldn't, it's usually to my detriment. Right. So when 321 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: I when I when I got that feeling about I've 322 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: been recharged of waking out of my family. I've gotten 323 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 3: I've gotten my head out of that negative space that 324 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: we were in and I was in. I moved out here. 325 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: I didn't really know that many people in LA. To 326 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: be honest, I didn't have a plan. I didn't have 327 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: any money. I just was like, I could sleep on 328 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: this person's couch for this time. I know that person. 329 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: I reached out to a bunch of producers I had 330 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: known from working over the years in the band, and 331 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: I got an overwhelming amount of responses of support that 332 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: year women, I expect this was twenty eighteen twenty Yeah, 333 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, Okay, And with the band members, one of 334 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: them I'm really cool with. He's a director and we 335 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: work together on some of my work that you'll see 336 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: because I co direct as well. So we were. Yeah. 337 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 3: The others are working on their own things and I 338 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: just wish them the best always. Yeah, Like, you know, 339 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: we worked hard to build something and I'm grateful for 340 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: that season and I've learned to be okay to let 341 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: go and move through season. 342 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: He just watch me from you know, from over there. 343 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: All right, So you moved to LA twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, 344 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: and then pandemic hits in twenty twenty. 345 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: Yes, almost, I felt like I have been there two seconds, 346 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: but in not two seconds, you know, I was in studio. 347 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: I was like one thing I could rely on and 348 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: that has always helped me get through everything and has 349 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: supported me even when I was in the band is 350 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: my writing. I've been able to write and support myself 351 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: and live out my musical aspirations at least through that avenue, 352 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: you know. And so I went to La I was like, 353 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: I'll write for anyone, any just you know. That kept 354 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: me busy, that helped me build relationships, helped me. 355 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: What was your first placement? 356 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: Oh, my first placement, I think it was a Kiana 357 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: La Day SONGA But I mean even so, I was 358 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: writing for a lot of unknown artists too, who just 359 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: wanted needed songs and I needed money, and so yeah, 360 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: I can, I can do that, you know. And so 361 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: I did that for a while. But that doing that 362 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: and pouring into other artists helped me to strengthen my 363 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: own skills, not as a writer, but as a vocal 364 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: producer as well. And it helped me build relationships with 365 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: other producers who then said, are you an artist because 366 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: this is dope. I'm like yeah, And then we work 367 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: on my things and I would just I had no 368 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: concept of how to release music with strategy or plan 369 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: or anything like that. I would just upload things to 370 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: the day the same day. I was like six week 371 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 3: release one. I don't know what that means. I'm just 372 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: gonna do that. I did that independently for a while, 373 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 3: and then after doing that for a long time, I 374 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 3: prayed for help because I was like, please send some 375 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: good people my way, people who have the same values, 376 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: people who have a vision and understand vision and can 377 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 3: help me really walk in my purpose. And I met 378 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 3: my manager, Carlen Murray. She's an incredible woman, such an incredible, 379 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: incredibly experienced, intelligent, talented person, and having her in my 380 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: corner that really give me a lot of confidence to 381 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 3: to keep going. We start and that's when we started 382 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: working towards the album. 383 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 1: And how does she find you? 384 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 3: We met randomly in a session I was writing for 385 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: another artist. 386 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: See there you go. You gotta yeah. 387 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Honestly, that's like the best thing to do, like 388 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: you said, just the mingling, meeting other writers, producers, that's 389 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: how you get into those right spaces. Like I said, 390 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 2: so you're ready, so prepared, so when the opportunity comes 391 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: you're like, I'm on gau. 392 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: You know what you're talking about because you've been in 393 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: this so long, you know you you were like, you've 394 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 3: you've been a part of building incredible careers and this 395 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 3: culture I'm putting out a forefront and so again, honored 396 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: to sit here with you. I really mean that. 397 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm excited to have you here too. Oh thank you, 398 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: because I know we'll look back at this interview. We'll 399 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: be like, look at where she is now. 400 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: It's big, you know, and be like, listen, we did 401 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: this kind of earlier on so. 402 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah and so yeah. So I met her at 403 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: the studio. I was I had been asked to write 404 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: for a new Artists and I went to do that. 405 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: And I do what I do when I when I 406 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 3: do something, whether it's for me or for other people, 407 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 3: I poured my all into it and I really really 408 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: want the best outcome. And I always want the best 409 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: outcome for the for the good people that I come 410 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: into contact with. And so I just was in the 411 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: in the studio and we were working on it and 412 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: she came through the second day. I didn't know she 413 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 3: was an AG executive. I didn't know that she had 414 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: all this experience. I just liked her as a person 415 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: and I really really really think it's important to trust 416 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: your instincts with people, and I did with her. And 417 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: then it turned out she was an executive and I 418 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: was an artist. 419 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: Yes, well that's amazing, just a whole backstory. I want 420 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: to ask you this too, being from Barbados, because you 421 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: also do. Do you know some more like dancehall type 422 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: of music too? 423 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to get out of Caribean influence. 424 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: What's the balance for you now with that? 425 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: Because it feels you know, you do both obviously, because 426 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: you can't get away from your roots, and you shouldn't. 427 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: Because I love that as well. But what is that 428 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: balance for you? 429 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: Like, can you see yourself doing a full project of 430 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: one thing or do you just want to kind of 431 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: incorporate both. 432 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: I mean, once a Caribbean girl, always a Cariban girl. 433 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: You can't take the Caribbean. Also, Barbados is my home 434 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: and it's where I'm from. And regardless of what genre 435 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 3: I am using or what medium I'm using to to 436 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: express my art, because not just music, but painting and directing, 437 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 3: these are all avenues where I used to uh express myself, 438 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: regardless of what medium genre. I'm in. I'm a Beijing 439 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: and so I'm rapping for my country, always just being here. 440 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 3: This is this is Barbados, you know. And with regards 441 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 3: to the influence in my music, you know, of course 442 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: I grew up on Carbean music, dance hall, spooge, calypso, reggae, 443 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 3: you know, those are these are sounds that are part 444 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 3: of who I am, and they come through my music, 445 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: sometimes more heavily than others, but it's always something I 446 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: pull from. And last year we actually did a like 447 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 3: a before this album, the Reaper Files That's Coming, we 448 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 3: did a project of a collection of purely Caribbean inspired 449 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: songs called Island Files. Oh yeah, that's where. That was 450 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: on Big Up Grace with a Verse. Oh my God, 451 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 3: he blessed me, and so I really wanted to honor 452 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: my Caribbean heritage at home, and so that project was 453 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: specifically for my culture and it was sonically there and 454 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 3: the album to come has influences of that still, but 455 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: it also has my other influences as I've left Barbados 456 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: and traveled and lived in London and been here in 457 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: la and been in New York and all of these 458 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 3: different sounds I also grew up with R and B, 459 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 3: the soul, the hip hop, like that's that's I'm an 460 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: accumulation of all of those things. 461 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. 462 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: I was in Jamaica with and Sempaul came and got 463 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: us to take us to like a restaurant. 464 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: There's a whole group of us. But the music they 465 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: were listening to. 466 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: In the car it was like eighties and nineties and so. 467 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: But you know they kind of grow out with those 468 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: songs and do like reggae versions of course. 469 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: And we've I mean in growing up in the Islands 470 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: and in Barbados, we have our carry music. But we're listening. 471 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 3: We're listening to hip hop. We're listening to R and B. 472 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: Like but this was like pop music from the eighties. 473 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: Yes, we're listening to pop music too, funny because I'm like, 474 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: I'm thinking we're gonna listen to like R and B, 475 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 2: hip hop, dance or whatever. 476 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm like, I wear my. 477 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: Son, did you record this album in Barbados? So did 478 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 4: you do it here? 479 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: The album three from File coming this year, we did 480 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 3: that in lak Yeah, it's done in la It's done. Angela, 481 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: listen to me Brian, Yes, listen, Sorry, you're not supposed. 482 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: To sounds like my mom, Brian. 483 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: No. I So this album it's been ready for three years, Yes, 484 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,239 Speaker 3: right off of the heels of writing and recording. Uh, 485 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: die hard, because the creative flow is so good in 486 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 3: the room. We just kept going writing and we've written 487 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: a seventeen sound project. I co wrote the whole thing 488 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: with Kendrick Lamar, produced by sound Way Most and uh 489 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 3: you know for oll on this beat in particular two. 490 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: And this album has been ready for three years. 491 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: Woman Now that's from. 492 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 3: This Woman Now is a part of that as well. 493 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: And I'm just so relieved and excited to be having 494 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: it come out this year because it's been it's been frustrating, 495 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: and I've been I've been angry sometimes sad, sometimes felt 496 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: demotivated that I've had this project and not been able 497 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 3: to have it out in the world as yet. So 498 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 3: now to finally have that moment to be here to 499 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: start releasing it, it's like now day one starts, not 500 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: the work. It starts like I got a long road ahead, 501 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: but at least we're going. 502 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: Is that the Kenjuck influence taking your time and being 503 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: patient and like. 504 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: I am not an inherently patient person. I will tell you, girl, 505 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: the patience I have had to learn and practice over 506 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: these years, these three years. 507 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: But is that because I know that's how they are, 508 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: Like I know him coming from the TD camp. It's 509 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: always like a timing, be patient and then Kenjak doesn't 510 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: just drop stuff well till it was distract time, but 511 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: before that, it's not like he just throws things out 512 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: like some people would be like, Okay, let's put this out. 513 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna put out three projects and say he's not 514 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: like that, And so what was the delay for you? 515 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: Was it? 516 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: Like? 517 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: What was the plan? 518 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 3: The delay for me? I think was again is timing 519 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 3: and it's God's timing. So things happened on it happened, 520 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 3: but I had to find a home for the project. 521 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: I had to we had to then figure consider all 522 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: the timings of things. It's just a lot of that 523 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: was beyond my control, okay, And I think that was 524 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: the hardest pill for me to swallow because I had 525 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 3: this music that I have been so ready to share, 526 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: but it's beyond my control and I had to spend 527 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 3: that time preparing because I knew, I know it's going 528 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 3: to happen, you know, So that's actually a lot of 529 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: that time. I spent filming a lot of homegrown visuals 530 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 3: for the project as well, because I told you I 531 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: love visual. 532 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: Art, and it looks everything that you've done, I mean, 533 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: and I love seeing like just the videos, it looks 534 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: like you're back at home, and some of them home 535 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: and all. 536 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: Of them, most of them. Yeah, I I went home 537 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 3: to do that. I worked with local creatives because I 538 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: really wanted it to be from from Beijing perspectives. I 539 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: didn't wanted to add thank you, thank you. We went 540 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: to my we met you know, so many ones that 541 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 3: are out already. We went to spots that we grew 542 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 3: up on, hot legendary fish cakes. You go there in 543 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 3: the morning before school. You know. We're in the country 544 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 3: with the bike men and we're filming and all of 545 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: this is to come. But working with Quasi, who's a 546 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 3: director in Barbados, but I direct as well, so we 547 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 3: co directed all these visuals. And I really wanted to 548 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: just bring home and not authenticity to this music because 549 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 3: the music really deserved that authenticity and the visuals as well, 550 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: because the music is that, you know, and even even 551 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: though I've treasured these songs for three years and they're 552 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: finally coming out out to life finally, thank god. I 553 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 3: can't give out yet, but it's coming this year. It's 554 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: coming this year. 555 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: When have you been to Barbados last? 556 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: It's been a long long time. 557 00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: This is a shame. 558 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: What happened? 559 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I just I went so much 560 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 5: as a kid that I haven't been back since as 561 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 5: an adult. 562 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: Really, so shameful, shamfo. You gonna come down. 563 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 4: I know I have a family live in christ Church 564 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 4: and Saint Michael. 565 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: So come, yeah, listen, you can't. 566 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 4: You only a flight away, I know, I know. Let's 567 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 4: do let's record out of there. 568 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, come to a showing Barbados. I'll show you around. 569 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: I was. We're doing this on the beach. 570 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: I was the last time as they was during a pandemic. 571 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: And so I actually went to a wedding because my 572 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: business partner is from Barbados. Oh really yeah, So he 573 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: got married there and they didn't want to change their 574 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: wedding date, and so it was tough. 575 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 3: We landed. 576 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: We had to get tested before we went and get 577 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: tested in the airport. 578 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: Which during the ponast. Yeah, and it was a long. 579 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: Process because you have to wait for everybody in. 580 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: The airport to get like everybody on the flight to 581 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: get tested. I mean we were there for hours and 582 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: then we got to the hotel. You can't leave the 583 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: hotel at all. I mean, but it was fine. I 584 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 2: still feel I mean, it's not like that. No, no, like. 585 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: Just just I'm so happy to be in Barbados. 586 00:26:59,119 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 3: Oh good, I was. 587 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 2: It's like we are out of New York. We are 588 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: some son at the hotel was beautiful. The staff was 589 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: amazing until someone got COVID and. 590 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: I was like, we come back, come back, Okay, I'm 591 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: down for that. 592 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 3: We should. I think you will. I got a lot 593 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 3: of spots to show you because the tourist guys don't 594 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 3: give you everything you need. You need, like you. 595 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: Need a real Yeah, you need to come. 596 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: All right, beat up, We're going to do your show 597 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: for Matthew. Now, a couple more questions, of course, I 598 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: have to ask you about these. I want to know 599 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: about you being a savage, because in the song woman 600 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: Now you discuss that, and then even in this song 601 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 2: right now, are you dumb? 602 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: Are you dumb? 603 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if three years ago you know you 604 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: know cause it's like sometimes you write these songs, you 605 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: could be in a relationship now. 606 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 3: No I'm not, But yeah, I understand that God got 607 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 3: me waiting. I not want to No, it's are you dumb? Right? 608 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 3: That came. That's a very confident and cocky song, like 609 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: you know, we like that's mad show on there, you know, 610 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: but it really it really and I was telling someone 611 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 3: as it really really came from a place of being 612 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 3: frustrated to be over underestimated as a woman in every 613 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 3: aspect of life, you know, in my starting like that 614 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: situation I told you about, you know, unheard in that environment, 615 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 3: or just being underestimated in career or in love. You know, 616 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: people really do take advantage and you know, showing up 617 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: with the best intentions, showing up as who I am, 618 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: and just feeling feeling marginalized, you know. And so the 619 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 3: frustration of that brought about this topic, which was women 620 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 3: are multifaceted. We deserve to be able to take up 621 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: space that you know what I'm saying, We should, we 622 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: should be heard. And again, working with masters like that, 623 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: they like they pull the best out of you, you know. 624 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 3: And so sitting across from Kendrick and really really get 625 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: my pen sharpened, because that's that's not that's no joke. 626 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: That what what is that process like with you and 627 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: Kenjack sitting in the studio writing. 628 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: It's a collaborative process usually starts with a conversation with 629 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: some wave as well as usually around and die. Like 630 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: the whole group of people is, it's one of non 631 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: judgment and it's a place for me the position I 632 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: guess for everyone is for everyone in the room is different. 633 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: But for me, I'm in there as a student because 634 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: I know that these are masters that I have admired 635 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: and I want to learn what I can. And I 636 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: will say that that environment them giving me the space 637 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: to show up as a writer and as an artist 638 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: and as a woman in the room and to be 639 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: heard by. 640 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: The boss really say you no, listen. You can say 641 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: you're a student, but you're still the boss in that situation. 642 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: It's your project and you are the boss. Like I 643 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: get it, you know, these are grades, it's all of that. 644 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: But this is unique for them too, right, because just 645 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: can't you really right for other people like that? Like 646 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: a whole project. I don't know that I've had. I 647 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: don't know that I've ever heard of that happening. 648 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: Well, I think, I mean, we definitely after Diehard and 649 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: again that group of people is an incredible that they're 650 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 3: just it was just creative. 651 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: Energy because at the end of the day, though it 652 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: is your project, it is and you can say I 653 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: don't really. 654 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 1: Like this, like do you do that? 655 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 3: Well it was. It didn't even have to do that 656 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: because I'm a writer too. 657 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it showed up and you can switch it out. 658 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: And we we definitely worked on this together and I 659 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: was given the space to have my voice heard from 660 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 3: my perspective and put my pen down and to do 661 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: it with someone and people who could really just help 662 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: me elevate that and become better at my craft and 663 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: become better at my art. And so that experience, I 664 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 3: will say the greatest gift that it gave me too 665 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: was confidence that that I have a right to be 666 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: heard in these and I didn't have to. I didn't 667 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 3: have to previously when I was in you know, the 668 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: band and stuff like that. I felt like I was 669 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: always fighting for position and you know what you know, 670 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: you you know, so to be to be really just 671 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: given space at an environment that nurtured and nourished, I'm 672 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: forever grateful. I couldn't. It's just an incredible gift. 673 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: He didn't. 674 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: Kendrick didn't want to sign you like to there because 675 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm just so, you're signed to Atlanta. 676 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: Signed to Atlantic. Now, okay, we brought the album there. 677 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: It was already done. When we signed over there, we 678 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: had already done the album. 679 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: And so it's not through PG laying Atlantic, it's just 680 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: directly through Atlantic. 681 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: It's yes through title nine. Remember the my manager I 682 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: told you about So Okay, yeah, So Carmen Murray she's there. 683 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: She is who I would uh attribute a lot of 684 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: this opportunity to. I'm really grateful for her. When we met, 685 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: I signed with her, and then through her we are 686 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: distributing and working with Atlantic on this album. And she's 687 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 3: she's she's really an angel. She's a gift. I prayed 688 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 3: for someone like her in my life. I hope I 689 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 3: hope that every I hope that every artist is able 690 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: to find at least one person who caress me much 691 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 3: passionate and who is willing to really look out for 692 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: the well being of of of the artists. 693 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: And I'm grateful and managers should be grateful for artists 694 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: that have loyalty to them too, because there's a lot 695 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: of times that you could get in a situation and 696 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: try to cut the manager out, like people do that 697 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: all the time. 698 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: No, not not not me and her. 699 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: No, I'm saying that's so for both ways. The reciprocation 700 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: of that, you know, that's a great thing. And like 701 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: I was saying earlier about ken Jack sund Way, about 702 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: the whole team, you would think that, like he wouldn't 703 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: do that for somebody that's not signed to his label. 704 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So that's special, Angela, that's God. 705 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 3: I just gotta I think that. There's no explaining it. Why. 706 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 3: All I can say is I'm grateful and to have 707 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 3: the to have that opportunity and to have the project 708 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: that we now have, I can only say that as 709 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: God's work. Like I was, I was given an opportunity 710 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: and I said, I said, I need this type of thing. 711 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: I want to create this type of thing and these 712 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: types of people, And this is what has showed up. 713 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 3: And again, like I was telling you earlier, I just 714 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: laughed because he really plays jokes on me. Right, He's 715 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 3: a funny. He's funny. He got he got because I 716 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: really was not feeling myself as a writer. I was 717 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 3: feeling like I didn't I didn't know how to say 718 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 3: the things I wanted to say, And he said, right, well, 719 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: here's your biggest opportunity, right figure it out. And yeah, 720 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: and I think, I think, I think a big part 721 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 3: of that was me also having to recognize that it's 722 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: not my own talent, it's not my it's not my 723 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: own strength. It's also it's trusting in God and trusting 724 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: that that He's going to help me through and always 725 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: help me get where I need to be. So I 726 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: learned a lot from that experience. 727 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: Now, listen, you said you're single right now, So what 728 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 2: kind of man are you looking for? If you had 729 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: to say the qualities that are important to you, well. 730 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 3: Why have God been looking for man now? Angela, Well, 731 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 3: you know Wednesday when we got when we got Yeah, 732 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 3: one day, one day. 733 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: But like, what are the qualities that you like? Do 734 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: you go on dates? How does somebody approach you? 735 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: I'm not a big data I'll be really honest. I'm 736 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 3: a hard one to date because I don't date. I 737 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 3: just be in the studio. I'm working, but I come 738 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 3: to the studio, yeah, exactly, you know, or sometimes I'm 739 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 3: so so focused on something I'm oblivious to someone even 740 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 3: asking me, like, I just think you're talking about work, 741 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 3: like you know. But for me, I think the things 742 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 3: that I find attractive in a person and a man 743 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 3: are for sure, confidence, I think the mind. How to 744 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 3: someone think? How how do they was their perspective on life. 745 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: I really am someone who has to get to know someone. 746 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: I've never been attracted purely on a physicality. It's really 747 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: on what the what the heart, and what the mind is, okay, 748 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 3: and a lot of a lot of that I find attractive. 749 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: Looks aren't so important to you. 750 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 4: They are important. 751 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 3: Let's not let's not say that not important, girl. We're 752 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 3: not trying to play ourselves here like that, right, but 753 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 3: but no, for real, for real, I find the most 754 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 3: attractive thing about someone is their character and their consistency 755 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 3: and how they show up for you or for themselves. 756 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 2: Even Are you as confident in the bedroom as you 757 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: are in your lyrics? 758 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 3: Girl? You know. 759 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. 760 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: I mean it's in there, so I'll say to it. 761 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: In music and in the studio and writing. My writing 762 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 3: process is one of the places that I am the 763 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 3: most honest and free because I feel like this studio 764 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: affords me a freedom to really get all of my 765 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 3: thoughts out, whether they're for the for the better or 766 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 3: for the worse, it's not, it's not. It's a non 767 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 3: judgmental space. And so a lot of the things that 768 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 3: I the things I think about, or things I might 769 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 3: have wanted to stay in a conversation or didn't, or 770 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 3: just a lot of ants that I might feel that 771 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 3: I can't express in a day to day place because again, 772 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 3: and you know, women in music, we have us we 773 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 3: have to hold ourselves to a certain standard in order 774 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 3: to like to get through. You know, I'm able to 775 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 3: talk about that in my music. I like it's a 776 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 3: freedom space for me. 777 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: It's the way a lot of us feel. I just 778 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 2: want to say somebody things that you say. We express 779 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: that on podcasts like Lip Service, Good Good, Hold. 780 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 1: On, Where are You Going? 781 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 3: And I love that. I love that. I love those 782 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 3: candid conversations we're finally giving ourselves permission to have. And 783 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: I remember growing up listening to Lauren Hill and Eve 784 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 3: and I think it's myself, Wow, like you look at 785 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: the conversation that's happening on these songs. I love to 786 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: I wanted this rawness, this authenticity, these things that that 787 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 3: who's who's saying that? Like you know what I mean, 788 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 3: like even Scissor, you know, expressing her insecurities and her confidences. 789 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 3: Like I'm very inspired by that lyrical subject matter. 790 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: I could see a sis a collab I would love. 791 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yeah. 792 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: It might be an you know, she's keeping us in 793 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: the dark pop out you know I have. 794 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 3: I have not met her, and that would be incredible 795 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 3: because I'm a huge fan. 796 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm excited for all of this. 797 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 2: And and so there's there's three singles that's out right 798 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 2: now that people can hear, right, is that so? 799 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 4: Are you dumb? 800 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 3: Just dropped? Are you dumb? That's again? That one is uh, 801 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 3: that's like we having fun? Yes, but and I have 802 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 3: a lot more common but yes, we you know what 803 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 3: we started to I realized that a lot of people 804 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 3: are are unaware of my music and the world that 805 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 3: we're building, and so last year we started to roll 806 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 3: out some of the interludes from my album. 807 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: I love the interludes. 808 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: They're like full, you know, it's not I know, they're 809 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 2: like a minute or something long, but I do like those. 810 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: I've been looking. 811 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 3: We wanted to introduce people to the project and really 812 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 3: just bring them into the world. So we have some 813 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 3: some we've had, we've we've put those out there a 814 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 3: little bit. But now we're getting into the album and 815 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 3: are you dumb? Just dropped and that is like, that's 816 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 3: your baby, that's that's one of my babies. Listen, don't 817 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 3: ask your truth a favorite. 818 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 2: That's a fun party song and that's a nice empowering 819 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: women's song. And I think you can appreciate it to 820 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 2: be that course as a you. 821 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 4: Know, because I've been in a whole phase as well. 822 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 3: Now it's the whole phase for you. 823 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 5: Whole face, like you know, you're just having a lot 824 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 5: of fun with different women. Okay, So I think gods 825 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 5: go through one. 826 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: As well, got you, got You, You'll go through your 827 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 2: lives and the whole face. 828 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: You'll be in relationships and in a whole phase. 829 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 3: Whole physs, whole physis is an unapologetic phase. Whole phys 830 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 3: is like I'm confident I'm doing my thing, like I 831 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 3: don't really care what people think about me. I'm gonna 832 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 3: make these decisions for myself. That to me, that's the definition. 833 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And sometimes I think women. It's a different space 834 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 2: to be in because sometimes it's hard for us to 835 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 2: get to. You have to get to a certain place 836 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 2: to feel like you can even be in your whole phase. 837 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I think again whole phase is is 838 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 3: also metaphorical. It's also just again being in that space 839 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 3: where you are confident in the choices you are making. 840 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: See forbid that it just meant. 841 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 3: Nobody. 842 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 1: I hear you. He just told on himself. 843 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 4: To you. 844 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 2: But now I appreciate you so much for coming through. 845 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 2: I'm excited to find out when this album is officially 846 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 2: you know, gonna come out, so we get a release date. 847 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 3: I appreciate talking to you, I mean for real, like 848 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,959 Speaker 3: you have your SUCHI an inspiration again talking to women 849 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 3: who as confident as you, who have built the career 850 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 3: that you're you built, and as respected like it's not 851 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 3: an easy thing to do in any area of life, 852 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 3: especially in music and especially entertainment. And I'm sitting across 853 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 3: from you, I just am honored and so much. No, 854 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 3: I'm really inspired by you. 855 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. 856 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: I'm inspired by you just saying, like the path that 857 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 2: you've been out and you have an amazing, incredible voice 858 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 2: took and your visuals top tier. 859 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: So I think this is gonna be really amazing. 860 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: And you know, just even the team you have around you, 861 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 2: it's all kind of God's will. 862 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean I attributed to God. I'm grateful. 863 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 3: I'm grateful. 864 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, congratulations on everything. I can't wait for this. 865 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: Are you dumb? Are you now? So don't be dumb? 866 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 3: God stand everyone that this week? Are you dumb?