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Speaker 1: So that's frustrating because the offense that's the worst. Well,

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Speaker 1: There were times where I'm like, hey, guys, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: That's the Arizona Cardinals. There are eight and two. They

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live. Thanks for joining US on Hawks Live. I'm

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Speaker 1: Michael Bumps with Paul Moyer. We're gonna dive into this

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Speaker 1: doing good? How we are doing? Okay? Man? For a

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Speaker 1: That was going on? And you know we're just talking

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Speaker 1: to play, but what are you most comfortable position wise playing? Man?

426
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: I tell you what, say, He's always been my brandon,

427
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: butther I mean ever since I was in high school.

428
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 1: I played that position day one, you know what I mean,

429
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 1: And have my about that corner. But it's just nothing

430
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: like playing safety. Mean, I mean, you see a whole field.

431
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: You can running head, you can make in the Sasians,

432
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: you can do a lot of things. It's fun. Man,

433
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 1: being able to play in space, running around and and

434
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: being involved in the run game in the past game

435
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: is to me, it's just the best position ever. And

436
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: I've always had role models and idols who I just

437
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: looked up to playing that position, just all the fun

438
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: they had. Like I look at every reader Sean Say

439
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: or you know, guys like that, just playing a position

440
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: just so freely and just you know, fast. It was

441
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: always attracted to me. So safety, for me, it's probably

442
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: just the best. Do you like dropping down in the

443
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 1: nickel situations and playing more of that linebacker role and

444
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: maybe line up on the tight you know, they move

445
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: you around there. I mean I've seen you on big

446
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: tight ends, wide receivers, running backs, inside deep. But do

447
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: you like sitting in that middle too? You comfortable at

448
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: least in the running situations? Oh? Absolutely, I mean that's

449
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 1: that's the game right there, running and hitting. I mean,

450
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 1: you can don't get no better than that. I love

451
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: it at all, man, being in the box, I do

452
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: it a lot in college, so you know what I mean,

453
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: it is nothing but an extension of it to me.

454
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 1: I love it. Man, linebacker, the next the next best one.

455
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You in the middle, you've

456
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: involved and if you know read stuff where you can,

457
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: you can get a chance to steal some stuff. Man,

458
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: those plays are always cool to watch. So I love

459
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: playing that position. It's far Ryan. I remember you coming

460
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: off the bench making plays against the Cowboys in the

461
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: following week and make a play against Miami. Um. You

462
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: always seem to be in the right place at the

463
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: right time. How was it sitting on the sideline and

464
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: getting your number called and just saying, look, man, I

465
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: stay ready. So I gotta get ready. Man, that's that's

466
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: what you're doing for it, you know what I mean.

467
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: It's one of those things that when you were in

468
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 1: that grind, you know, that practice squad grind, you got

469
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: behind yourself, like, man, hold off. If I can make

470
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: plays against the starters, the guys who are at the

471
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: doing it you know on Sundays, and big name guys,

472
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: but I can pick them off, I can make plays

473
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: against them. I can make plays against anybody. So I'm

474
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: gonna just take the time to work on my craft

475
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: and you know, competed all time, so you know, when

476
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: that time came, you know, I was ready for it,

477
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And coming off and making

478
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: a big play, especially in my first game, that was

479
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: just a man a side with me for me, it

480
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: was just you know, like a finally you know what

481
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean, and that it was it was it meant

482
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: anything at that moment. Man, It's a big days to

483
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: even just and that register in my mind that it

484
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: just came in that to that situation. But you know,

485
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: it all ways out, man, it all wants out. Hey,

486
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: Coaches always want playmakers, and you're a playmaker, and you're

487
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: you're your secondaries fourth, I mean, you got your mall

488
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: and obviously Digs. There's another guy who's been really popping,

489
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: uh and showing, and that's Trey Brown. I mean, he

490
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: did it in college and now he's getting an opportunity

491
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: and might just sharing how he's developing and what you

492
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: think of him. Well, you know what, we all everybody

493
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: in the room absolutely loves him, you know what I mean,

494
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: And he has the want to to get better and uh,

495
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: and that's the thing that you love to see and

496
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: the thing is, we're you know, in the room, we're

497
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: hard on him because we want him to be the

498
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: best he can be. And we know he can be

499
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: that good, you know what I mean, he doesn't. He

500
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: has the natural capabilities, even you know, people question the

501
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: stature has nothing to do with that. He's just a

502
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: greedy kid, very very fast, twitchy, and he loves to compete.

503
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: And that's the things you love most about him. So

504
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, we take our time with him in the room,

505
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: make sure you understands everything he's doing, and really really

506
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: you know, being great role models for him and just

507
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: letting him just just go out there and make plays

508
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: and just help us out man. And he's doing it

509
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: to Riper Jib. And I'm proud of him for sure. Hey, Ryan,

510
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: the NFL is in your blood. Man. You got an

511
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: older brother, Mike Neil, who played in the NFL, won

512
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with the Green Bay Packers. Talk about

513
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: his influence in your life as just a person in

514
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: as a player, Well, you know, as a person, he's

515
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: been in my corner, you know, forever. I mean, you know,

516
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: blood brother, full through and through growing up, you know,

517
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: because he was a little bit older than the rest

518
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: of the siblings. So he was kind of like brother Dad.

519
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: But over the years we had to develop this real brother,

520
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: the brother of relationship him going through you know, his

521
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: time in the league and seeing his struggles and seeing

522
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: his moments when he shine and you know, kind of

523
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: just observing it from a different point of view. And

524
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: again when he finally seen that, you know, something that

525
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: I really wanted to do, like, you know, I told him,

526
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: you know all the time, like man, ever since he

527
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: did it, it is over my eyes, like you know what, No,

528
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: I can do it too. And he recognized that and

529
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: continues to just pour into me, invest me all through

530
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: high school, college, You're all answer now, still still sending

531
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: them cliffs, still asking questions. Gave me the layer of

532
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: the land of the NFL before I stepped in it,

533
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: so I can kind of understand how it works and

534
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: what goes on, and that just kind of kept my

535
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: head in the right place going through so, you know,

536
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: football life, and just likewise, we're always talking about life

537
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: every single day, you know, just just figuring it out,

538
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: trying to do the best for our family, for our hometown,

539
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: you know, and I was trying to make an impact.

540
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: He's always been a heavy, heavy influence in my life.

541
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: You know, I tell everybody that's my mentor. Man, that's

542
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: my that's my mentor. We talked every single day around

543
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: the clock, so he's real. I keep real close. What

544
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: do you like to do away from football? Hey, Look,

545
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: it's a stressful business. I mean there's a lot of

546
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: work that goes into it. What do you like to

547
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: do to get away from football? Well, kind of taking

548
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: advantage of the area up here. Man, Seattle's a beautiful place.

549
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there's plenty of hikes to go on. I

550
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: love going out and catching views, like sitting high in

551
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: the mountains or just kind of just driving different places

552
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: and catching different viewpoints here, just to kind of clear

553
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: my mind and just being the stillness of it all.

554
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: You know. I love hanging out, especially with family, That's

555
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: my thing. I love when they come into town. We

556
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: always have a good time. But I just love really

557
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: chilling for real. I love hanging out, just relaxing and

558
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: catching the breath. Man, taking the breath and just enjoying life. Man,

559
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: taking it for what it is. Hey, Ryan, big week

560
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: coming up. You guys are still in the playoff hunt

561
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: forget what the record says? You guys are still in it.

562
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: What's the temperature of this football team right now? The

563
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: temperature of this football team is win at all costs.

564
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just what it is. And we understand

565
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: that dynamic. And that's what we're doing, you know what

566
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: I mean, We're going to work. Everybody knows what the

567
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: stakes are, everybody knows what time it is. And the

568
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: thing about it is we always trained at every game

569
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: as a championship game, even though the record may not

570
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: look like we have been in championship games. Ah, Yes,

571
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: this is nothing new, you know what I mean. It's

572
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: something we always be getting ready for. And that's what

573
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: we're looking out of that. And like I said, we

574
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: all know it's at stake. So you've been bad that

575
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: guys are coming out, you know what I mean. We're

576
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: gonna pulling from everybody pulls verywere audience is what it

577
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: needs right now. Hey Ryan, Well that defense is playing

578
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: great right now. Man, you keep making plays. Good luck

579
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: this weekend. We appreciate you taking time, man, Thank you,

580
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for having man. It's always a pleasure.

581
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: Hey already, thank you sir. All right, No, Man, I

582
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: love watching play because he reminds me of you a

583
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: little bit. Actually, Playmaker twenty one. Well he's twenty six

584
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: right now, you're twenty one, but he's not twenty one.

585
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: He's twenty six, twenty one and twenty six. I see it.

586
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: And and if my my granddaughter is born on December

587
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, he's gonna be even. We're gonna be tighter.

588
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: I like December thirteenth. Better, let's make that happen look

589
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: earlier is better? That would work for me, all right.

590
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: That was Ryan Neil when we returned. We'll talk to

591
00:28:44,280 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: the Professor John Clayton. That's next on hawks Lide. You

592
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: know what time it is? Seven forty five. You hear

593
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: the funk in the background. I'm Michael Bumpus with Paul

594
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: Moyer for that means we're bringing in John clay and

595
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: jac what's up? How are we doing? We're doing okay? Man?

596
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: What do you think about this Thursday night game? Man?

597
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 1: New England sinks sixteen to zero. It stinks. Thinks it's boring.

598
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean, here's predictably boring. I mean I know, uh,

599
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: Bob and David I talked about this, you know, at

600
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: four o'clock. But uh, I mean when you see some

601
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: of the rankings that come out, and he had I

602
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: think Seattle in the power rankings at twenty fifth, just

603
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: really close to Atlanta. I mean, these teams aren't even close.

604
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of like comparing a couple of

605
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: weeks ago when Jacksonville came to town and you have

606
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: people saying, oh yeah, if you with Russell Wilson, Jacksonville

607
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: is better. Atlanta's terrible. I mean, look at look at

608
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: the past their offensive line. How bad it is. I mean,

609
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: and before this season, I was saying how bad it

610
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: is when I was looking at the scouting reports and

611
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: everything else, and then you look at the defense, it's

612
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: not that good. I mean when you look at the

613
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: yards and the way that the Patriots have controlled the ball,

614
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just amazing. It's only sixteam nothing, John,

615
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the standings in New England's basically a

616
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: half game back of Buffalo. What do you think wins

617
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: the AFC East. I still think it's Buffalo because I

618
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: still think they're the better team. But it's now going

619
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: to go right down to the wire because I think

620
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: you can see New England they're they're looking really good,

621
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, mac Jones is the best of the rookie

622
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks playing so far, the five first round picks. Uh,

623
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, and what's what's the one stat he's six

624
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: and four as a starter now going to be seven

625
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: and four. And the other quarterbacks, you know, the five

626
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who played, including Stanford's Mills, I mean they're five

627
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: and thirty six. So I mean he's won seven, they've

628
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: won five. And then you can see defensively they're getting

629
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: better and better and better. Matthew Juden right now he's

630
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: probably in the top four or five for defensive player

631
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: of the year. He looks fantastic with his nine and

632
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: a half sacks. And of course you know how good

633
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: they are in the second even though they were so

634
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: good they could even get rid of stuff out in Gilmore, John,

635
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: the Rams have lost two straight games and look a

636
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: little lost on offense. What are your thoughts going on

637
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: in la I think now a lot of last week

638
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: had to do I still think, and nobody's confirmed as

639
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: had to do with his ankle injury that he suffered

640
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: at the end of the game two weeks ago, because

641
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen what happened with Kyler Murray, who

642
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: has now missed two and you may be able to

643
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: play this week. But he just wasn't throwing well. Then

644
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: of course you make the adjustment. You lose Robert Woods,

645
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: who is you know, he was so dependable, and then

646
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: you put an Odell Beckham junior and they forced passes

647
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: to him. And then the other thing is they can't

648
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: run the ball. I mean they're not running the ball

649
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: very well. Daryl Henderson seems like he's always hurt. So

650
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: you throw all that together. They're a little off right now.

651
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: But still they've got a great record and a great team.

652
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: Well we'll go a little more Seahawks here because I'm

653
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: looking at the NFC and I started to go down

654
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: who's the best team, And it's really interesting Tampa Bay's

655
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: lost two in a row, or now that ams Arizona's

656
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, struggled with some injuries. Um, so let's talk

657
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: about some injuries. Yeah, we talked to darn It was

658
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 1: Darren Urban I believe it was earlier. And they're beat up.

659
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean, boot you got Buddha Baker. They said keep

660
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: an eye on that one. Uh. DeAndre Hopkins still hasn't

661
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: practiced since I believe October twenty eighth or so he's

662
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: gonna miss the game. Um so one, Who's who's healthier

663
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: of these two teams? Well, it's not even close. I

664
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: mean Seattle, you know, they've you know, added a few

665
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: guys that we don't know about. Again, we don't know

666
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: probably pretty much know the Carson Uh, Chris Carson's not

667
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: going to be able to go. But I think you know,

668
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: either got good news on Dwayne Brown and you know

669
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: you've got uh, you know, Dwayne Estridge back and all

670
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: that stuff. But I think what Arizona has, like about

671
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: seventeen players on the injured list, and a lot of

672
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: them key guys. I mean, you know, no Hopkins, No,

673
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: Justin Pugh the guard. Uh that Max Garcia, he's banged

674
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: up on the offensive line. And again you get the

675
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: injuries on defense, and they lost boot boot to Baker's

676
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: probably not going to be able to go, and then

677
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: JJ Watson injured reserve. So it's like you throw all

678
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: that together. That's not a good sign. And so it's

679
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: like they come into this game pretty beat up, and

680
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: then you wonder if Kyler Murray is going to be

681
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: out there, you know, how limited is it going to

682
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: be with this movement because you know that ankle still

683
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: is not going to be one hundred percent. So it's

684
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: like Arizona is clearly the more injured of the two teams.

685
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: John this Seahawks defense has been playing some good football

686
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: ads of late, allow thirteen points against the Saints, seven

687
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars, seventeen against the Packers. Are you impressed

688
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: with this defense and do you think they can continue

689
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: to play at this level? I mean impressed, no, but

690
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: I think you can see definite improvement. I mean, again,

691
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, and press would be a top ten type

692
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: of defense, but they are doing a lot of good things.

693
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: You can see the improvement in the secondary. I mean

694
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: DJ Reid and Trey Brown have done a great job

695
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: as far as coverage. You know Jamal Adams who was

696
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: added to a list of guests today with a groin injury,

697
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: but he was limited in practice. I mean, he's making

698
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: some better plays and they actually started blitzing him a

699
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: little bit more. I mean you can see that they're

700
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: able to get a little bit of pass rush and

701
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: all those different things. So in the end, I think

702
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: that you're seeing some pretty good improvement from this defense.

703
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: But you know, impressed, No, They still have to continue

704
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: to get better and would do it and sustain it

705
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: for some period of time. Green Bay was pretty good,

706
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: I mean definitely underrated defense. I think we knew how

707
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: good they were going into it because they've they've given

708
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, Arizona a tough time when they were healthy.

709
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: Obviously they shut us out last week our offense. Was

710
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: that an anomaly or is this what we're going to

711
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: expect the next few weeks? Well, I mean, I think

712
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: there's going to be a little bit of you know,

713
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: set up time for Russell to try to get back

714
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 1: to being Russell. And you know, clearly you can see

715
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: that two things that he had to do because he

716
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: couldn't take a snap behind center, so it's like he

717
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: had to take a pistol and shotgun. And I think

718
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: the big mistake that they made is they passed the

719
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: ball too much. I mean, so for example, when you

720
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: think that they only had you know, eleven carries to

721
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: running backs, that's a recipe for disaster. Didn't we watch

722
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: that all last year when it was sixty forty pass

723
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: the run and of course what ends up happening is

724
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: what happened in the game. I mean, the longer you

725
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: go the more you then have a tendensee to get turnovers,

726
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: and they got two interceptions and then you know which

727
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: what's so sad about the defense is that, I again,

728
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: defense played a great game against Green Bay, but when

729
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: you're on the field two to one compared to your

730
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: offense and they just wore down and that that just happens.

731
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: I mean, particularly when you have guys like you know,

732
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner and Adams and all those guys out there

733
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: for over sixty seven plays. So it's like, you know,

734
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: that did catch up to him. John. The Hawks are

735
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: still in the playoff hunt. Do they make the playoffs? Well,

736
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is going to be one

737
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: of the tipping games to tip off where it's going

738
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: to go, because if they can win this one, then

739
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: I think that they can make it at nine and eight,

740
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: you know, because again they've got the four easy games.

741
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: You know, they got Detroit, Chicago, Houston and Washington and

742
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: again Washington is twenty seventh on defense right now, and

743
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: you know they're down to basically you know, Tyler Taylor

744
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: Heineke is a quarterback. Then if they can just go

745
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: two and two in the division. That's why this Arizona

746
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: game is so important because if they lose the Arizona game,

747
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: there's a good chance that they'll lose in Arizona, which

748
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: means they'd have to get sweep wins against San Francisco

749
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: and the Rams. But if they can go two two

750
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: in the division, win the four winnable games. I mean, technically,

751
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: they're the third or fourth easiest schedule down to stretch,

752
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: and that does help them out. And their schedule so

753
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: much easier than some of the other teams that I

754
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: think that they can make it at nine and eight.

755
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: And again, where I'm still looking at is that you

756
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: look at New Orleans and you know they are five

757
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: and two, surprised everybody. You'll beat Seattle. But now once

758
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: they lose Jamis Winston. Now they're at the point right

759
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: now where they're down to five and four, and I

760
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: think they're going to continue to drop. You know, Alvin

761
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: Kamara didn't practice today. Good chance he's going to miss

762
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: his second game. And of course they've got a couple

763
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: of injuries on the offensive line, so I think they're

764
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: vulnerable continue to fall. And if they fall, you know,

765
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: because they're one of the six winning teams in the NFC.

766
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden you have five and you

767
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: may have two chances for a nine win team to

768
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: be able to make it. John, you said this Thursday

769
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: night game is boring. You know it's not boring. His DK, Mattcalf,

770
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: he always keeps it interesting. What are your thoughts on him?

771
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: Do you feel like he needs to grow up mature?

772
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean, just what are you feeling he says he

773
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: needs to grow up in mature. I think we all agree,

774
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, particularly now that you know the Walt Anderson,

775
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: the head of officials, is doubling down on the taunting rule.

776
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: And you can see they're not backing down one bit.

777
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: And so it's like, hey, they sent the letter out

778
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: to all the teams and general managers and coaches and said,

779
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: now listen, you got to get your guys to start behaving,

780
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: and you know, not do put themselves in that position. Well,

781
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: Metcalf is one of the worst as far as that goes,

782
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: And so I don't know. He said today that you know,

783
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: he needs to grow up. He needs to grow up.

784
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: He needs to stay away from all the extra taunting

785
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: and all the extra verbiage and everything else and just

786
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: concentrate on catching the football and blocking. It's the one

787
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: thing I don't like about the NFL when they go

788
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: into the competition committee and come out with these decisions

789
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: and really the players just have no input whatsoever, and

790
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: it drives. But John, it's that time. What's on your mind, professor? Well,

791
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean again, I go back into the taunting, you know,

792
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: because again what do we have, like now thirty five

793
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: penalties in the first ten games as far as taunting,

794
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: And again what I don't like. I never from the

795
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: very beginning I didn't like the taunting role. Now I

796
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: even hate it worse. And now the fact that you

797
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: know they're calling as many as you know, seven eight

798
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: a week is getting ridiculous. I mean, you know, you

799
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: can have a dance by Cassius Marsh and the next

800
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: thing you know, he gets a hip checked by Tony

801
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: Currente and he gets the taunting penalty on him, and

802
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: you've got all the penalties going against Medcalf. I mean again,

803
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: I still look like the Medcalf thing when you know

804
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: he climbed the goal post and you know they gave

805
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: him a taunting for that, you know, because they're saying, oh, yeah,

806
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: well you had an object that you dance. I mean,

807
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: the object's not going to get hurt. You're not going

808
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: to cause any problems. None of these taunting penalties are

809
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: going to lead to any fights or any injuries. It's

810
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: not a safety issue. It's just a dumb issue. John,

811
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: you made my night. Thank you for green with me

812
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: on this taunting ridiculousness. John, Hey, appreciate your time. You

813
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: have a good night. Man. Okay, thanks? All right, that

814
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: was John Clay. When we return, it's time to talk

815
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: that talk. Me and Paul Moyer will square off on

816
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: some issues. Is the best version of Jamal Adams yet

817
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: to come? Can the Seahawks win without big games from

818
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: DK and Lockett? Will let you know. Next on Hawks Live,

819
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: it's time to talk that talk with Michael Bumpus and

820
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: Paul Moyer on Hawkslive, Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

821
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: It's time to talk that talk. Me and Moyer. I'm

822
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: gonna square off on some issues. Things we gotta get

823
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: off our chest. Moyer, all right, I'm gonna start us off.

824
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: Let's go with number three first. Then let's just get

825
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: right too. Let's just start throwing haymakers. All right, We'll

826
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: start with some jabs then Okay, the best version of

827
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams is yet to come, true or false and true. Um,

828
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: he got his first interception. Interceptions come in bunches. There's

829
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: there's a pressure I think he put on himself to

830
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: make plays. They gotta make plays. I'm the highest paid safety, YadA, YadA.

831
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: He's been balling out first of all. Yeah, I mean

832
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,959
Speaker 1: the guy is disruptive in the run games. He's playing well.

833
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: They're just not seeing it statistically the last three or

834
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: four games until they finally got that interception. I think

835
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: we're playing him at a safety position. They're they're using

836
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: him to his strengths as well, where they are doing

837
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: some stuff where they're dropping you know, defensive end outside

838
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: linebackers into coverage and bringing him off the corner. Um.

839
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: So his time's gonna come when he gets some sacked.

840
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: But I think he's he's a more complete player this

841
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: year than he was last year. Okay, So you're saying

842
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: and we're going to see a better Jamala, Well, I

843
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: think it's just to continue growth. He's playing pretty well,

844
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: and if you go and put the tape on, he's

845
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: playing well. Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna say we already saw

846
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: the best of Jamal Adams set the record with nine

847
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: and a half sacks as a DV. I think that's

848
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: where he's in his sweet spot. That's where he's in

849
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: his zone. I think he will continue to get better

850
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: at attacking the ball out the air. I'd never see

851
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: him as a four or five six interception type safety.

852
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: I see him as a guy who wants to get

853
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: in the box and tackle and hit and do that.

854
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: And last year he did that, and he did it

855
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: at the highest level any dB has ever done it.

856
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 1: So I think we saw the best version of him already,

857
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: but I think we'll see another version of him that

858
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: is more conducive to a defense having success individually. That's

859
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: the best we've seen last year, So I guess I

860
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: would ask you I get from a sack standpoint, But

861
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: to me, that's narrow, you know, whereas this year he's

862
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: starting to play more cover two, he's gotten better at

863
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: he's playing other he's playing more. To me, he's more

864
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: of a complete player because we're playing him at a

865
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: more traditional safety. I get the numbers there. To me,

866
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: it was more narrow because it was really off the

867
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: blitz the coverage. He struggled, you know, he didn't look

868
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: good and covered two. He's starting to look more comfortable there,

869
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: so uh, you know, I'll say we tied that one.

870
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: What you got? Oh man, I'm gonna go with this

871
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: one here. Um, the Seahawks can't win without big games

872
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: from DK, Metcalf and Tyler Locket, which, by the way,

873
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: six tds and the three wins, five tds and the

874
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: six losses absolutely true. They need big games from these

875
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: guys to win, and that means Russell Wilson has a

876
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: big game. Russell Wilson needs to have big games for

877
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: these guys to win. So that means DK and Lockey

878
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: need to have bi games. See how that's connected. Right there,

879
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: Russell and DK and Locket art connected to the hip,

880
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: and right now this office is looking like they need

881
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: to be a pass first offense. We don't know that

882
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: the health of Chris Carson. You got Alice Collins back there,

883
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: who had one good game as a starter twenty carries

884
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: one hundred yards against the Steelers. No disrespect to Alice Collins.

885
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: I just don't see him being able to do that

886
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: every single week. What I can see is Tyler Lockett

887
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: in d K or vice verse or whoever one of

888
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: those guys having a big game every week and Russell

889
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: Wilson leading the charts. For this team to go forward

890
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: and win ball games, you gotta rely on those two.

891
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely true. Yeah, I don't have a wish if I

892
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: had a wish list, or I now if that's the

893
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: right term. But if I thought, oh, ge, our running

894
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: game was awesome and our offensive line was playing exceptional,

895
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: then I would say, no, we don't need a big

896
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: game from him. We can just control the clock, move

897
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: the sticks, run the ball well, play great defense. It

898
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: just hasn't happened. We haven't won without big games from

899
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: either DK or Tyler in Russell Wilson as well. So

900
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say right now, you're right, that doesn't mean

901
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: we gotta go crazy, but they've got to have big

902
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: They've gotta have eight catches one hundred yards and a touchdown.

903
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: We've got to have big plays. It's too hard for

904
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: us right now to go twelve plays eighty yards. You know,

905
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: we still got to score easy. Million dollar question, Moyer,

906
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: name the biggest problem with the Seahawks offense scoring? Um?

907
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: I think right now it's it's the inconsistency of the

908
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: big plays. The checkdowns, the up tempo, the quick passing game.

909
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: So to me, it's the biggest problem I see as

910
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: we're still not taking what the defense gives them, and

911
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 1: we're still looking for the big play, and that that's

912
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: fresh in my mind because of last week. If I

913
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: looked at every game, I might have a different answer

914
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: because but last week is fresh to me. So that's

915
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: the biggest problem to me. It really starts as much

916
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: in the offense of line as well. But because Russell

917
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: has the ball every time, I gotta put it on him.

918
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: And so he talked about it. He took ownership. He's

919
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: got to play better. He's got to play better because

920
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: we have the players that we have. It's not gonna change.

921
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: The scheme's not necessarily going to change. It's in his

922
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: hands to make it work best. And I would just

923
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: want to tell him just take what the defense gives you.

924
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: It's okay to every once in a while throw the

925
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: ball away and punt. I feel you. I think the

926
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: biggest problem is connecting the first play with the eighth play,

927
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: connecting the twentieth play with the thirty second play, Like

928
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: giving a look and having two or three things off

929
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: of that and then executing that right. You can go

930
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: in with the plan and say, Okay, we're gonna set

931
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: up this early so we can run it late. You

932
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: gotta do that, but then you gotta execute. You gotta

933
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: make the big play. There are a couple of plays

934
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: these past couple of weeks where guys aren't making the play,

935
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: and then I don't see a runoff from the first play.

936
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: I need to play one, and I need to play

937
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: one A, one B and one C. That's how you

938
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: get defenses kind of backing up and second guessing themselves

939
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: and then just making the play. I think your Pro

940
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: bowlers need to play light pro bowlers and the oc

941
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: waals and needs to connect some plays together and show

942
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: a look in the second quarter, then boom, show it

943
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: again in the third in the same situation, and guess

944
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: what is not that play? It's something else off of

945
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: that easier set than done because you're get in situations

946
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: and you might not get in that same situation. But

947
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: that's what I'm seeing. I think that's what's missing right now.

948
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: It is interesting after I heard you talk that it

949
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: really is about just making place. It's about just being smart.

950
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: I mean it, we're down three, not then we're in

951
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: field goal range. It's third down, not the time, you know,

952
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: just let's kick the field goal. Let's let's play it.

953
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna go with you. You won that one,

954
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: all right? How about this one? And I'm gonna I'm

955
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: gonna throw a little wrinkle on you in this one.

956
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: And the reason why is Arizona is the thirty first

957
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: rank rush deep fence average in other words, yards per carry,

958
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: and they're thirty first right now. The Seahawks ran the ball,

959
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: but they didn't run it last week at all. I

960
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: think that what Levin carries for our running backs, well,

961
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: the Seahawks run the ball twenty five times or more Sunday.

962
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: I was gonna go twenty but I think that one's

963
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: too easy. Yeah, I want to go to twenty five. Okay,

964
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I just don't think they're gonna do it.

965
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna rely on Russell Wilson in d

966
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: K unlock it because I think we agree they need

967
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: to play big to have success, and I just don't

968
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: know what they have in the back. Though you got

969
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: Alex Collins, got DJ, you got Travis, I don't know

970
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: how much they believe in that we don't know what

971
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: the health of Chris Carson looks like. I think they're

972
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: gonna go with their thirty five million dollar man and say, look,

973
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: go ahead and win this ball game for us. I

974
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: don't I'm hearing Pete. I'm hearing Pete say we gotta

975
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: run it, mat fact, I'm gonna jam this down, this

976
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: philosophy down, you guys, And you know, I kind of

977
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: gave you some leeway like it, go ahead and make

978
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: your best decisions. But when he said we're not running

979
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: it enough, um, I think we'll have success running it too.

980
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: They're pretty banged up, they've struggled against the run. I'm

981
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: gonna say they're gonna And I also think here's the thing.

982
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: We don't win the games very often when we don't

983
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: run the ball at least twenty five and we have

984
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: to win this game. It's one of their weaknesses. I

985
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: think we're gonna commit to it. We'll have more balance.

986
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: Look is balance here? How many times a green or

987
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: did San Francisco run last week against the Rams? Forty

988
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 1: plus time? And they averaged three point nine yards per carry,

989
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: so it wasn't like they were just gashing them. So

990
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: that's what go Look go look what Arizona does. Go

991
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: look at Tampa Bay. Go look at Green Bay. Green Bay,

992
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: to me, is a great example. They don't put everything

993
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers. And so I think we're going twenty five.

994
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: I think that philosophy we're technically um halfway point right.

995
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: We're eight and a half weeks into this. So I

996
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: think that philosophy's gonna be jammed home. All right, I'm

997
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: gonna go and say you won that one here. I

998
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 1: like that one. Okay. When we return, we'll go inside

999
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: the film m will break down plays from Trey Brown,

1000
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and Jamal Adams. That is next here on

1001
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: Hawks Live. Hawks Live every Thursday with Me, Michael Buffs

1002
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: and Paul Moyer. Thursday Night Football has concluded. New England

1003
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: Pages win twenty five to zero. They beat the Falcons.

1004
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: That's good for the Hawks. Good for the Hawks. Falcons lose,

1005
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: that is good for the Hawks's that's crazy talk that

1006
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: we need a land until live crazy. Hey, we'll take

1007
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: it though. Anyway we can get it, we shall take it.

1008
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: But now alsign for us to go into the film room.

1009
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: That's when Paul Moore and I put on our coaches caps.

1010
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: And we break things down. The first play we're gonna

1011
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: talk about as Trey Brown, he breaks up a fourth

1012
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: in two against Alan Lazar Rogers on a fourth down

1013
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: and two, takes a shotgun snap, looks throws inside Paul down.

1014
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: Actually it's the receiver bounced off the receiver because he

1015
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: was hit so hard by the defensive back Trey Brown,

1016
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: who just unloaded on Lazard and knocked that ball loose.

1017
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: He was just across the line to make was Lazard

1018
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: ball was coming in hot and Trey Brown got there

1019
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: just at that moment and knocked it down. Huge play

1020
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks defense. It's really textbook. I mean, they've

1021
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: got three wide receivers over the right empty backfield there

1022
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: Aaron's looking for the matchup he wants. They've got two

1023
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers over to the left hand side as it

1024
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: looks from an X and no standpoint. You got Jamal

1025
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 1: Adams up and does a really good job of getting

1026
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: his hands on the receiver and working over the top

1027
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: because they were trying to work him and that was

1028
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: the initial read. But Jamal took that flat route or

1029
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: arrow route away and this is where Trey but I've

1030
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: been on him he's a playmaker. I mean you, the

1031
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: quickness he does here is unbelievable. And the way this

1032
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: is a quick throw if no one gets the rid

1033
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 1: of the ball quicker than Aaron Rodgers, and he makes

1034
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: a play. And when he put his feet down and

1035
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: drives on this play and I've seen this a bunch

1036
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: he drives to the ball and he's done already a

1037
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: bunch of passes defense because this huge play in this

1038
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: against I think the very best in the game, Aaron

1039
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: Rodgers at this type of throw, and he outplayed him. Man.

1040
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: What I love about this bowyer is that he played

1041
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: the ball and the man not either or he wasn't

1042
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: just going for the pick. He wasn't just going for

1043
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: the tackle. He goes, Look it's fourth and two, I'm

1044
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: going to make a play. This guy is a great

1045
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: job of feeling the game right, feeling Lazarre sit down,

1046
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: seeing Aaron Rodgers separate the right hand from the left

1047
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 1: hand and get into that throwing motion, and then believing

1048
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: in what he's seeing and breaking on the ball. You

1049
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: pointed out something that's crucial to this as well, Jamal Adams,

1050
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: is getting your hands on him, even if it's just

1051
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: a little bit as a receiver. If you are not

1052
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: going to make me adjust or influence me any kind

1053
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: of way on my route, I'm one hundred percent confident

1054
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna be okay. Jamal does a good job,

1055
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: get hands, get into that flat. And then Trey brown

1056
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: Man is being a ball player and making a technically

1057
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: sound play, which has been a while since we've seen

1058
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: something look like that. In the second day, there's a play.

1059
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: There's a part of this play. It goes unnoticed. Aaron's

1060
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: not looking at him, but Ryan Neil picks up this

1061
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: deep crossing route. I mean, he does so such a

1062
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: great job. But you know they're trying to do a

1063
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: rub route on Jamal Adams and get the tight end

1064
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: into what do you call it, an arrow route into

1065
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: the flat. I don't know what you guys call it.

1066
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: But and again you're right, because he got his hands

1067
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: on the receiver and worked over the top, that play

1068
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: was gone and it gave Trey brown just enough time

1069
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: to make a play on it. But I was really

1070
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: good play by him. Great play by Trey brown Next play,

1071
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is intercepted in the end zone by Kevin King.

1072
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: Russ takes a shotgun. Snap steps up. Looks now he's

1073
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: got to move. Now he's sliding left again. Now he

1074
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: throws to the goal line and it's intercepted in the

1075
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: end zone. The ball was on the ground. No, they're saying.

1076
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: They are saying it was a touchback. King dropped the

1077
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: ball after he hit the round and Russell drives that

1078
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: ball and he I don't think he ever saw King

1079
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: as he tried to get it to medcalf. Three defenders

1080
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: around that one he forced right here. We call it

1081
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: this an orange or an organ. You got out by

1082
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: the slot. Locket runs the corner, so does DK. DK

1083
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: runs the post. So they're trying to influence that safety

1084
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: right there. This is just a really bad decision by Russell. Wilson.

1085
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: Russell steps up in the pocket. The safeties do a

1086
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: great job of bracketing DK. Russell rose to the left.

1087
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: He says, Look, the defender had his back to him.

1088
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: That's why he threw the football. But if you're gonna

1089
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: throw that football has got to be high into the

1090
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: corner the back of the end zone to where your

1091
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: six three six four receiver can get it. I just

1092
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: don't know what he was looking at here. This is

1093
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: a month. I'm not playing football right here, And I

1094
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: know he looks at this and he's disgusted. Yeah. Look,

1095
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: it's also part of his nature and that he wants

1096
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: the big play. And you're right from a decision making standpoint,

1097
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: this was in the first quarter, seven nothing, game three

1098
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, I'd say we can live to fight another day.

1099
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: This is a three nothing game in the fourth quarter.

1100
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean, actually, he should have been sacked on this play,

1101
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: and they he kind of squirmed out of I wish

1102
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: he had have got sacked because we would add at

1103
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: least an opportunity to tie the game. There there's another

1104
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 1: thing on this. It's just a bad decision Russ. Russ

1105
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: knows this. I wish Travis Homer when he leaked out

1106
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: of the backfield, I wish he had a followed Russ. Yeah,

1107
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: he went the other way. The middle of the field

1108
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: is wide open. I don't know if Russ would have

1109
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: seen it, but there's no way he's seen it. When

1110
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: you're running away from him, When Russ is running to

1111
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: the left sideline and you're running the middle of the

1112
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: field to the right sideline, Russ can't see that. They

1113
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: got a mirror that better here's the thing though, As

1114
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback, Okay, where's my bell out? Where's my outlet?

1115
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: Right right? If everything's covered, he's got to follow that.

1116
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: That's that's where I go to. So and that middle

1117
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: of the field again in his zone, the middle of

1118
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: the field, and sometimes man to man you get lost

1119
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: when you sneak back through the middle of the line,

1120
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: and you can you can lose him, particularly if a

1121
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: back or a linebacker somebody's trying to hug you. You

1122
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: can play that right where he starts to hugging and

1123
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: boom you're out. But in a zone, the middle of

1124
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: the field is usually there's a weakness. So just Russ

1125
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: as you're listening to this, I'm just coaching. Yep, budding,

1126
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: ye up, all right. Next play, Jamal Adams intercepts Aaron

1127
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: Rodgers in the end zone. Rogers steps up in the pocket, looks,

1128
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: gets hit, steps out of a possible sack. Bobby hits him.

1129
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: Ball is in the end zone and it's picked off.

1130
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams picks it off. It's intended in the end

1131
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: zone for Draguara. Rogers is hit just as he throws

1132
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: the ball by Wagner. It's intercepted. The Seahawks kill the

1133
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: drive by the Packers and take over. The first interception

1134
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: for Adams this season. Well, I don't even know where

1135
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: to describe it. There's a couple of good things that

1136
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: happen here. One, you know, Aaron looks to his left

1137
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: and we have that covered. Um, it's a good pass rush,

1138
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: and that's what say the day because the pass rush

1139
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: got to Aaron Rodgers and we talked about this going

1140
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 1: to this game. Aaron believes in his arms so much

1141
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: he's going to throw a contested ball. You've got to

1142
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: come up with it. We're playing a three deep zone.

1143
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: It didn't really play it very well. It looks like

1144
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: we actually kind of busted because they run a seam

1145
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: route to our left. They offenses right seam routes. The

1146
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: number two receivers running a seam routes the weakness of

1147
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: a three deep zone because they can widen the corner.

1148
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: And what they're trying to do is you're trying to

1149
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: throw something in between the free safety and the corner.

1150
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: In this case, you always teach those guys to carry that,

1151
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: to hold that throw off, otherwise just an easy touchdown. Luckily,

1152
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: Aaron wasn't looking to that side. And then when he

1153
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: finally started to scramble and we got good heat on him,

1154
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: he saw somebody flashing the end zone at the last

1155
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: Simes bad decision on his part right after Russell. I

1156
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: mean we go bang bang, right, and so again it's

1157
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: a good play by Jamal Adams. I mean, that's the

1158
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: best he could have done there. You know, nothing he

1159
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: could have done, but made a play in the ball

1160
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: and that's huge. And you know what's great about this play,

1161
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: it's just the excitement the defense had for Jamal. Yeah,

1162
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: they feel it. They want him to have that success.

1163
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good locker room get the guys

1164
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: like coming. So I do think we're gonna see more

1165
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: interceptions from him. And his best is still ahead, Still ahead, said,

1166
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: still ahead? All right. So Aaron Rodgers looks to the

1167
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: left side. You know why, because Davante Adams is over there.

1168
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: He goes, look, I'm gonna I'm gonna give my guys

1169
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: a chance. And at the same time, you influence that

1170
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: safety up top. You got a guy running an out

1171
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: and up, which widens the corner. What you're talking about

1172
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: by design, you run that out and up to make

1173
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: that corner expam and then you got the seam route. Um.

1174
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: I think if Ugo, I don't understand why Ugo is

1175
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: flying to the flat right now just so aggressively. I

1176
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: think that he should be patient, get his hands on

1177
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: that number two receiver and drop, just like you talked about.

1178
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: But this is a great example of how the the

1179
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 1: front is connected with the back end because if if

1180
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: that D line does not get pressure on Aaron Rodgers,

1181
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna flick that risk and that thing is gone.

1182
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, now you're right. They're great. Pass rushes make

1183
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 1: up for a lot of deficiencies. There's usually somebody open.

1184
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: It's just don't do you have time to know there's

1185
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: five guys out of the backfield. Everybody does this with

1186
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Why didn't Russell see that guy because he's

1187
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: looking to the left. Okay, that's the fifth option. Let's

1188
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: see the whole field more. He yes, see everything. If

1189
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking to the left and my fifth option is

1190
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: sitting on the far right side sideline, I may not

1191
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: get there particular. There's a pass rush, and that as

1192
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 1: much as anything saved the day there. All right, D Line,

1193
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: you keep doing your thing. We might see Jamal Adams

1194
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: get a couple more pigs. When this thing is all

1195
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: said and done, will we return. We'll go around the NFL.

1196
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater lets his team down. Have we seen the

1197
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: last of Richard Sherman? Does Levion Bell have anything left

1198
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: in the tank? And we'll start out the NFC playoff pitcher.

1199
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: That's next right here on Hawks line. Time to go

1200
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,959
Speaker 1: around the NFL top story, at least a top story

1201
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: to ask Teddy bridge Rotter gave up on a fumble

1202
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: that ended in e ended up in the Eagles sessdown

1203
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: last week, and boy didn't look bad. Here's his explanation

1204
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: on what happened. Yeah, and we watched it today as

1205
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: a team, and you know, coach pointed it out at

1206
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: a My effort had to be better there, and I

1207
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: totally agree. That's not the type of tape that I

1208
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: want to put out there. It's one of those situations

1209
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: where you get pissed, you know, after you watch it,

1210
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: because it's like, you know how much this game means

1211
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: to you. You know, you know guys out they're trying

1212
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: to make it play. It's like you feel like you

1213
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: got a little help running towards the sideline. You try

1214
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: to force the cut back. But in slow in real

1215
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: time and slow motion. I'm sorry. In real time, it

1216
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: feels like everything's happening fast. I was forced to cut back.

1217
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: But when you slow it down, it's like, man, you know,

1218
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: just give them more effort. You watch it, you walk

1219
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: away from it pissed, you know, at yourself, at the effort.

1220
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: Before you guys jump in, let me just paint the

1221
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: picture a little bit better. So it's a handoff to

1222
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: the running back. It's a short yardage play. The running

1223
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: back fumbles the ball. Darius Slay from the Eagles picks

1224
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: it up, and it is dancing. I mean, the ball's

1225
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: slipping out of his hands. He's running back and forth

1226
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: and then finally breaks to the sideline and Teddy Bridgewater

1227
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: not only has an angle, Slagh is running right at him,

1228
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: and as he gets close, he takes one two steps

1229
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: and makes a clear business decision, doesn't even try. His

1230
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: running back is going. After he gets tackled, Slagh runs

1231
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: it back for a touchdown. And it was one of

1232
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: the worst looking effort plays I think I've ever seen effort.

1233
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: Two things you can control, you know what I'm gonna say,

1234
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 1: Attitude and effort on the football field. That was bad.

1235
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: More you played the game, you coached the game. How

1236
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: did that thing pan out in the locker room? Times

1237
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: have changed because it's a Kindler Jetler world of you

1238
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: got to give a better effort. So my last year

1239
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: plan I had a bunch of stingers going on, and

1240
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: I always telling people. I said, when you get to

1241
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: a point in your career where you're telling yourself, go

1242
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: hit that guy. And it's not like that in slow motion.

1243
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: It's just I gotta go hit that. You can't even

1244
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: have that conversation. It's too late. We're playing the Kansas

1245
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. I don't know what the score is. It's

1246
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: again my last year quarterback. Bust the pocket up the

1247
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: middle and he's gonna score. I mean, he gets Actually

1248
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: I thought he was on the goal line because I

1249
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: run up there and I see the goal line, and

1250
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: so I pull up because he's right there at the

1251
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: goalne It wasn't the goal line. It was the extra

1252
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: point line. And oh man looked bad because it looks

1253
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: like I pulled up on him. But they had the

1254
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: exact same markings, only it's you know, a six inch

1255
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: you know marking compared to the end zone. But subconsciously

1256
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: something made me do that. I don't know what. Man,

1257
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: let me tell you what when I and I knew

1258
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: how bad it was gonna look, because I all of

1259
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: a sudden I realized he wasn't in the end zone.

1260
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: You try to go home and watch it and you go, oh,

1261
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: this is gonna be bad. It's gonna be bad in

1262
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: the film room and they made a point. So we're

1263
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: just with the DBS. Thank god. They could have done

1264
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: it in front of the whole team. That would have

1265
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: been horrible. But Joe Vitt, you know, I'm very close

1266
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: with it. Man. He ripped me and he had to.

1267
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean that. You can't accept that. I mean, I

1268
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: turned down a hit. Never done that in my career.

1269
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: It looked horrible. You know, he's from Philly, and I mean,

1270
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: he yes, there's lots of languages I can't use on

1271
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: this one. It hurt, but I had to accept it.

1272
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: And I didn't even say I didn't even try to

1273
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: make an excuse. I told him. I remember going in

1274
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 1: the shower afterwards, and man, I was just my head

1275
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: was down. He came in there and like patted me

1276
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: on the back. He goes, I had to do that

1277
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: he goes. You know, you can't have that. You know

1278
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: what's going on. And that was really when I started

1279
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: to realize that my career was over. I got a

1280
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: couple of herniated disks, But today they don't do that.

1281
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: It's hey, you got to give a better effort. Mine

1282
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 1: was if you don't want to play, Yeah, there's guys

1283
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: who want to play in this league. They're giving another this.

1284
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: It was brutal. That was the that's actually the worst

1285
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: moment in my career. Did you guys win that game? Nope?

1286
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: With Matack we lost every year in Kansas City until

1287
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: the one where Derek Thomas missed the eighth sack of

1288
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,959
Speaker 1: the game and we threw basically hell married to Paul

1289
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: Scanzy to beat him. No, we did not. It was

1290
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: a closer game. He's probably still lost by double digits,

1291
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: and that touched Actually the game was it was put

1292
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: it out of reach anyways, but I just knew what

1293
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: that was. You never want to be called a coward

1294
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: and football, No, you don't want to say you ever

1295
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: turned down a hit, especially in the goal I tell

1296
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: people goal line is Oklahoma drew. It's it's no longer

1297
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: formed tackle. Its sellout. Time. It's man against man. Yep,

1298
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: and when you turn that down, that's career ending. It

1299
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: really is, and it's it's it's hard to live with

1300
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: it unless you're a quarterbacks. Still, he's not paid to

1301
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: hit nobody. No, but still but you still gotta get

1302
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: You made the point um during the the postgame show

1303
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: on Sunday. You're still a football player, right, Yeah, you

1304
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: still played this game at some point. Teddy played on

1305
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: the field at some point of his career. He's capable.

1306
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: He's capable of just throw your body in there or

1307
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: like Nasa Chobe, our producer says, give it the old

1308
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,919
Speaker 1: kicker effort. Throw your body in like Ola, like throw

1309
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: your arms in there and to give the look. I tried,

1310
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: but I just don't have this Emmy. That reminded me

1311
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: of Jannikowski against the Raiders. I think it was when

1312
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: he just bowed out and he goes, look, he just

1313
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: kind of jogged off. I don't want I don't want

1314
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: none of that. I've had coaches tell them their kickers, hey,

1315
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,439
Speaker 1: after you kick it, jog off the field. Really, yeah,

1316
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: you're more important to keep your health. I need you

1317
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: to kick the ball. So there's gonna be ten verses eleven?

1318
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: What is we were playing soccer? You got a red card. Look,

1319
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I liked it. I've never had a

1320
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: coach do it and my teams, but I've seen teams

1321
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: do that. I'm quarterbacks, same way. It's awfully valuable position.

1322
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: What I oh, I would tell Teddy in that situation is, look,

1323
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: you can make an effort to just at least try

1324
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: to pull him down, grab his jersey. Heck, in no situation,

1325
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: grab his face mask. We'll take the fifteen yard penalty.

1326
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: At least we'll get him down, all right. Moving on,

1327
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman's placed an IR on Wednesday. He got hurt

1328
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: during warmups. Man and Richards had an interesting year. Um

1329
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: he goes down at Tampa Bay where everyone goes to

1330
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: retire win championships. Is this the last we've seen good

1331
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: old Richard Sherman. I think so. And it's not that

1332
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: he couldn't get healthy and still playing this league. But

1333
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: once you start the injury bug when you're older, it

1334
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: just doesn't get better. It's it's really hard. You know again,

1335
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: basketball Lebron James right now, I'm concerned that you know,

1336
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna the injury bug starting to hit. It's just

1337
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: your get older. It's just hard to recover and your

1338
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: body starts compensating for things. And what he's got. Everything

1339
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: he's got, you know, knee, he's got a chi lest

1340
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: he's got hamstring. Those are all connected to each other.

1341
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, something overcompensates, and a

1342
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: lot of times you end up blowing a knee out

1343
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: on the other side because it's over calm up and

1344
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: sating so much. He's got enough money, he's had a

1345
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,439
Speaker 1: fun he's got a Hall of Fame career. It's time.

1346
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: It's time for him to go. What do you think? Yeah,

1347
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: I think it is. And he plays a position where

1348
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: you're reacting like you're not controlling the situation. Really you're backpedaling.

1349
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: You're reacting to what the offense is doing. Uh, yeah,

1350
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: I think it's time. Like you said, being great career.

1351
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure you think he gets into the ring of

1352
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: Ring of honor up here. I do. I think he does.

1353
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: And I don't think I mean from our group, Um,

1354
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner's going in, uh kJ Wrights or maybe we'll

1355
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: see camp Chances going in. I don't think girls getting

1356
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: in no, I don't. Uh, we'll see what happens to

1357
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: his career. But I really believe the honor part is

1358
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: so important. And to me, Marshawn Tougher, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

1359
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: and yes I think we'll hang on. And I'm maybe

1360
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: longevity matters. Um, yeah, I think so. It's just we

1361
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: have so many people to put into the Ring of Honor,

1362
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: so many and from the last ten years, Doug, well,

1363
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: you got Doug. I mean, let me let me go back.

1364
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: We got Sean Alexander, I mean, does he get in

1365
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: to me? He should have been in by now though,

1366
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: well Matt Hassebek just got in. Yeah, but wasn't he

1367
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: here before? It came in about the same time. Matter fact,

1368
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: when we drafted uh, Sean we are I think the

1369
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: stadium was being built in They were over at University

1370
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: of Washington that first year, so the same career time.

1371
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: Obviously Matt played a lot longer. Maybe you're waiting for

1372
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: them to retire. I just think, looks, we just got

1373
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: Mike Holm grinned right, I mean the Hutch. Uh, you know,

1374
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: we got Sean Alexander. Um, there's some guys still from

1375
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: my time that potentially and then you got obviously this

1376
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: whole era of Russell Wilson and you know Sherman and

1377
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: Bobby and kJ and you know Marshawn be crowded in

1378
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: that ring man, very very crowded. So they can't put

1379
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: him in every year. Um. I think if I think

1380
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: if Sherman, if Earl gets in, man, it's gonna be

1381
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years, I believe. And you know, I mean

1382
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: Kenny easily went through it. You know, there there was

1383
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: some friction there. They had an issue, you know, and

1384
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: I think with the way Earl went out, that's a friction.

1385
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: That's an it may change ownership or a regime change

1386
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: before he gets sent as all, I'm thinking he also

1387
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: got into a little bit of trouble. That's the honor part. Yeah,

1388
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: I think that's that's a big point, the honor right.

1389
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: You have to have a certain type of reputation that

1390
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: will accelerate the process for you. But if you have

1391
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: some off the field issues, it might affect you a

1392
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: little bit. You can be a great player, I mean,

1393
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: that's number one. Or you gotta be great at what

1394
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: you do, whether you're an announcer or a coach. You

1395
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 1: got to have that success but I can't go and

1396
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: do that. It's just to me, it would be awkward.

1397
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: I just think the way he left, the way he

1398
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: gave the bird, you know, just that part, and then

1399
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: you know the off field incidents. I think it's gonna

1400
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: be tough for him to get in. All right, we

1401
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: shall see. Time will tell. Okay, when we return, we'll

1402
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: give you our final thoughts and keys of victory. That's

1403
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: next on Hawks Live. Welcome back to Hawks Alive. It's

1404
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: almost time to put a ball on this thing and

1405
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 1: say good night. But before we do, we got some

1406
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: things to talk about. Man, these Arizona Cardinals is gonna

1407
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: be a tough game. They're eight and two. It seems

1408
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: like they're getting healthy. Signs are pointing towards Kyler Murray

1409
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: being available. It doesn't look like Dandre Hopkins will be available.

1410
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: They still have aj Green, Christian Kirk, Brondel Moore, James Connor.

1411
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: On defense, you got Buddha Baker, you got Murphy, you

1412
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: got Simmons, you got Marcus Golden with nine sacks, I

1413
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: guess Chap Jones challenge six, but only one since the

1414
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: opener when he had five. Yeah, he's been banged up

1415
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think he's only played in five

1416
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: or six games this year. Good keep him off the field.

1417
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: But these guys are good. These guys are and they're

1418
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: undefeated on the road this year. That is key. I'd

1419
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: rather be playing them in Arizona. We travel well. Yeah,

1420
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: common theme here, buddy, Another tough game. We've had a

1421
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 1: tough schedule outside of Jacksonville, who's played decent. You know,

1422
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: I think they're two and two of the last four games. Um,

1423
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: you know, Indies, I mean, go look at our schedule.

1424
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: I mean it's a tough schedule and we've been in

1425
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: every game, and I might even say Minnesota, We've been

1426
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: in every game. We gave up the lead seventeen to seven.

1427
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: We've had a chance to win in the fourth quarter

1428
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: every game this year. So we're competitive. We're just not

1429
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: finding ways to close it. We're gonna win this game.

1430
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: So you're gonna pick the Hawks to win on Sunday.

1431
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna help you out already because I'm destroying

1432
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: everybody on game predictions with six wins this year, I

1433
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: didn't have a good feeling in any of the games before.

1434
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: And I've picked the other teams. I'm telling you the Hawk.

1435
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,799
Speaker 1: You're gonna win this one as long as DeAndre Hopkins

1436
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: doesn't play, and he's not gonna play. Oh, we gotta wait.

1437
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna win this. We're gonna We're playing well enough defensively,

1438
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is not at his best. Um, I think

1439
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: we'll be I think we'll take care of that. Their

1440
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: defense is banged up. Um, we're gonna play better. If

1441
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: it should be a low school. If Chris Carson does

1442
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: not play, you still feel the same way. I'm not

1443
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:28,839
Speaker 1: counting on Chris Carson this year. I know neck injuries,

1444
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: it would put me in the retirement world. Um, they're

1445
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: they're tricky. Um. And if it's if it's not developing

1446
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: because of treatment and things like that, you know, it's

1447
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: often means there's another level. I mean, it's possible surgery.

1448
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 1: They're gonna shut him down for the year. So I'm

1449
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: not optimistic. And I have no knowledge other than history

1450
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: and next are tricky and I just you know, just

1451
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: the Pete part. Well we'll know more and and well

1452
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: we'll know more. But I'm not counting on him. I mean,

1453
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: I think Allen's Collins be fine again. I'd love for

1454
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: Penny at some point to step up. They are not

1455
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 1: a good run defense. They're not. They're not. We have

1456
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: to take advantage of that, and I think we will

1457
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 1: run that rock with Alex Collins and Travis Homer DJ Dallas.

1458
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: We're not counting going Chris Carson unfortunately throwing the full ball.

1459
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: I think we both agreed that DK Metcalf and Tyler

1460
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 1: Lockett need to have big games. Gerald Everett is your

1461
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: third leading receiver right now. He has twenty two for

1462
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: one ninety eight and a touchdown. Last game he had six. No,

1463
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: he didn't, he have eight? Eight? Sorry? Eight? Yes, he

1464
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: was my key hawk? Was he your key hawk? My MVP?

1465
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: But like I tell you every week, if you need

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Speaker 1: a pat on the back, I got you, I got

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Speaker 1: I got me covered. More's is balling this year. He's

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Speaker 1: killing us in the games. He's kicking. I give him

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Speaker 1: the key Hawks. Man. I mean, is good for you, man,

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Speaker 1: Life is good. It's just celebrated thirty two years of

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Speaker 1: marriage Sunday. Yeah goodness, man. And you've got big playoff

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Speaker 1: game against Mount Spokane this week and East Side Catholic.

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Speaker 1: There's some big games coming up here. There's some big

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Speaker 1: games coming up. Nothing bigger than the Cardinals in the

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Speaker 1: in the Seahawks, though, man, if they if they do

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Speaker 1: not win this game, I'm gonna say playoff hopes are gone.

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Speaker 1: They're gone. Yeah, I mean, here's why there's four winnable games,

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Speaker 1: all right, put you at seven. I mean, you've got

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Speaker 1: to get you gotta go beat somebody, you gotta. We

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Speaker 1: have to be Arizon at least one of these two.

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Speaker 1: We're at home, we're healthier than they are. Forget how

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Speaker 1: we've played. We gotta go win that game. And if

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Speaker 1: we do, the schedule sets up nicely for us to

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Speaker 1: get a run. But I'm not confident beating anybody Chicago, Houston,

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Speaker 1: maybe Houston. But now, every game's tough everyone, Yep, every

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Speaker 1: game is going to be a tough one here. Defensively though,

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Speaker 1: I think that's the bright spot right This defense is

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Speaker 1: playing well. They're gonna have their hands full this week.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna see if Trey Brown can continue to develop

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Speaker 1: as a young corner. DJ Reid has had a good game,

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Speaker 1: digs doing what he does. Jamal Adams, according to Moria,

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Speaker 1: we have not seen the best of Jamal Adams yet,

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Speaker 1: so we're looking for him to do things and then

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Speaker 1: the wild card they got off the bench, Ryan Neil,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he can come in to make three

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Speaker 1: or four plays a game, whether it be special teams

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Speaker 1: or one or two on the defense, those are the

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Speaker 1: I think those are like the X factors, the deciding factors. Right.

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Speaker 1: We said it all your your Pro bowlers, and they

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Speaker 1: play like Pro Bowlers. But then you need guys like

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Speaker 1: Ryan Neil and Google Amadi to step in and make

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Speaker 1: a little splash out there to keep things interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowlers. You know again, we gotta step up.

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Speaker 1: I mean DK Metcalf mentioned something I think it was,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was in a press conference

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Speaker 1: or after that. Hey, we gotta get the ball. That

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Speaker 1: are playmakers, and I agree, but you guys gotta make plays.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta make every catch. You gotta get

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Speaker 1: open on defense. Man. You know, our Pro Bowlers can't

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Speaker 1: just play the game. You gotta play great. Because here's

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Speaker 1: what I do like, I really feel like we got

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Speaker 1: playmakers in the secondary most court. I think Trey Brown

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Speaker 1: adds a dimension for us digs. We know what we're

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Speaker 1: getting there. Jamal is starting, you know again, he's been

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Speaker 1: playing really good throwing. Ryan Neil Um. You know he

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Speaker 1: got Bobby, he got you know, Jordan Brooks. You know

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Speaker 1: those are those are playmakers. Did we forget about Darryl

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Speaker 1: Taylor's mettle while since he's recorded a sack? Right, he

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Speaker 1: was the guy we were really um I still am, Well, well,

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Speaker 1: yeah we are. But you know he had that injury

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh I believe it was, and they had to

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Speaker 1: stay out a week. Then he comes back. He's got

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Speaker 1: to get going as well. Rashim Green second on the

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Speaker 1: on the team with three sacks. He could have had

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Speaker 1: a couple last year, I mean last week. Aldon Robinson

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Speaker 1: has been developing a little bit. I mean again, names

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Speaker 1: that aren't household names, but names that are vital to

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Speaker 1: the success of this football team. Yeah, Murray's been sacked

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Speaker 1: eighteen times and that's in what, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: many games he's missed. He missed just one games, missed two.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so you know that's a high sack rate

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Speaker 1: for for anybody, even for Russell at that point. So

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Speaker 1: there's some opportunities there. I hope he doesn't play. I

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Speaker 1: like our chances a lot better, but I feel better.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, hey, we had a bad game. But

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Speaker 1: we've got everybody, we're healthy, we know what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get from Ross, so we're not gonna get another one

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Speaker 1: of those. I mean, we had that conversation, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna have another game like he played

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Speaker 1: last week. We're gonna run the ball, We're gonna be efficient,

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Speaker 1: the crowd is gonna be loud, we're gonna win the game.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go to four and six, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be right back in this playoff. Fun boom, positive vibes

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Speaker 1: only here on Hawks Live. Man Special Thanks to Darren Urban,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Neil, and John Clayton for joining US board operator

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Speaker 1: Nick Craisha and our executive producer Nasha Choby. The Seahawks

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Speaker 1: pregame show was live this Sunday starting at ten am.

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Speaker 1: Until next time. I'm your host, Michael bump Is with

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Speaker 1: Paul Moore. We'll be back next week right here on

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