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Speaker 1: we have a jam pack show. We have to get
Speaker 1: into the most recent episode of the Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Speaker 1: As we all know, last week the legend the icon
Speaker 1: beforeever more meant Kenya Moore is no longer on the show.
Speaker 1: Before we get into that, I want to do a
Speaker 1: little bit of I want to have a conversation about
Speaker 1: some things that has been happening on so media leading
Speaker 1: up to this past Sunday's premiere episode. So, as we
Speaker 1: all know, Kenya Moore is onlong on the show that
Speaker 1: never decided to not move forward with her their words
Speaker 1: based on her behavior, Those were their words. Subsequently, brit
Speaker 1: Edie did a press tour this week, and apparently Portia
Speaker 1: did too, because Porsche has a YouTube channel, So make
Speaker 1: sure Rain Josh support Porsche is at Porsche for the
Speaker 1: number four Real R E A L. And Kenya Moore
Speaker 1: also has a YouTube channel where supposedly tomorrow, I believe
Speaker 1: she's dropping her first time speaking on the incident. What
Speaker 1: I want to get into is did an interview I
Speaker 1: want to say, it's called Housewives Nightcap if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: And she shared that she really expected Kenya to apologize
Speaker 1: to her and that's not what she received. Porsche or
Speaker 1: her YouTube channel revealed that allegedly a current housewife who
Speaker 1: was still on the show allegedly gave Kenya some photos
Speaker 1: that she displayed on the poster board. Can you more?
Speaker 1: Responded to Porsche and denied it, and but Porsche revealed
Speaker 1: this on her now YouTube channel. So I want to
Speaker 1: get into that first. How do you guys feel about
Speaker 1: the fact that allegedly somebody who is currently on the
Speaker 1: show that is a housewife allegedly gave King of those photos.
Speaker 1: If that is the case, does that change things for
Speaker 1: you guys?
Speaker 2: Claudia ladies, first, give fuck about that, because they all
Speaker 2: do it. They all do it. Poorsche, you do it too,
Speaker 2: because I did a season with you. Okay, I had
Speaker 2: to hire a private investigator after my car was broken
Speaker 2: into and my laptop was stolen. Once again, it ain't
Speaker 2: about me, but I'm just giving you context. They all
Speaker 2: do this kind of stuff. It depending if you don't
Speaker 2: like someone, you might slide someone some information. People do
Speaker 2: that every all the time, every season. This is not
Speaker 2: breaking news. This is not the gotcha moment you want
Speaker 2: it to be. It's really not. They all do this
Speaker 2: on the show. We also know that Porsche and and
Speaker 2: and Drew don't like each other. They got their issue right,
Speaker 2: So maybe she's trying to kind of throw herner the
Speaker 2: bus because if you have to say who it is,
Speaker 2: don't don't. Don't give us a bread comp just say
Speaker 2: say it, girl, be about that life and just say it.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a big deal at all, because
Speaker 2: they all do it. They slide people information depending on
Speaker 2: who you're in allegiance with, and it's it's it's it's
Speaker 2: it's not the gotcha moment that she wanted it to be.
Speaker 3: I don't think, Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with
Speaker 3: Claudia on this one. I really don't give a shit either.
Speaker 3: What what are we supposed to do with that information?
Speaker 3: There is somebody who gave her didn't make sis sheep like,
Speaker 3: so the fuck would I'm not excited about it. It
Speaker 3: does not offer any additional insight nor context. It's just
Speaker 3: a complete dud. It felt completely flat. So listen. If
Speaker 3: you're gonna offer commentary or do after show commentary and
Speaker 3: talk about the show, have something to say. While I
Speaker 3: do enjoy Porsche's bubbly personality and love looking at her
Speaker 3: beautiful face, if she ain't talking about nothing, we're wasting
Speaker 3: our time. So I'm not gonna continue to go over
Speaker 3: to her YouTube channel and watch her eat and just
Speaker 3: pretend to be aloof about certain details that I can
Speaker 3: pretty much guarantee she's aware of and just not being
Speaker 3: forthcoming about.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, you know, get it.
Speaker 3: I'll hope these young these ladies make all the YouTube
Speaker 3: revenue in the world with their recaps. I think it's
Speaker 3: great that they do it. It reminds me of old
Speaker 3: housewives when they used to write the weekly blogs on
Speaker 3: Bravo dot com. But BravoTV dot com, whatever the website is,
Speaker 3: it's basically just a new interpretation of that. So have
Speaker 3: something to say. I do love that Porscha's YouTube channel
Speaker 3: is called Don't Make Me a Hurt Show. It is
Speaker 3: a title don't make Me called Porsche. I think that
Speaker 3: was cute and funny for her to use that and
Speaker 3: play on that. But you gotta be talking about some
Speaker 3: darling because you're saying that there's a housewife who are
Speaker 3: these blind items. It's just not doing it's not helping
Speaker 3: us out as viewers. We don't care. I don't care,
Speaker 3: and Claudia don't care.
Speaker 2: I want to add one thing. I also think she
Speaker 2: loses credibility because she tried to start a little mess
Speaker 2: with that. I know things about your husband than never
Speaker 2: mind think that Angela about Charles Oakley and then and Porscha.
Speaker 2: I know people think I hate Porscha from something from
Speaker 2: ten years. I don't hate her, but I'm just honest.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't protect her because I don't have
Speaker 2: a friendship with I don't protect her. And yes, I
Speaker 2: can be biased sometimes about people that I like, and
Speaker 2: I know, of course we all do it. We all
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 4: Okay, I tell you how to do it. I don't
Speaker 4: give a fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do it, we do it. I don't have
Speaker 2: any emotional attack attachment. So when you don't have an
Speaker 2: emotional attachment, you could be very honest about how you
Speaker 2: feel about something. You could just say it how it is.
Speaker 2: I don't like that thing about Charles Charles Oakly. I
Speaker 2: did not think that was necessary, because I will say this,
Speaker 2: I do like Porsche a lot more this season in
Speaker 2: the when I was on it with her, I like
Speaker 2: her more than I've ever seen her before. I did
Speaker 2: like I did like the growth of her and Kenya
Speaker 2: kind of passing things up. I loved that Porsche offered
Speaker 2: to let Kenya be in her car, because like that
Speaker 2: is such a I will give anyone credit that can
Speaker 2: grow and evolve. I thought that was dope. I thought
Speaker 2: her temper has not been as bad as was in
Speaker 2: the past. The old Portia would already fought for people
Speaker 2: by now and kick somebody in the pussy, And I
Speaker 2: think that's great that she would move on. No, I'm
Speaker 2: giving prop I think she looks really cute. She's come
Speaker 2: with her glam. I don't like the jealousy thing with Shamiyah,
Speaker 2: but I you know, I gotta give her either. I
Speaker 2: gotta give her the points where where she should get
Speaker 2: the points. I do think she is still you know,
Speaker 2: she she you know, it's a little bit of a
Speaker 2: debt without the Simon storyline, but she's still you know,
Speaker 2: in the mix and stuff like that, and she is
Speaker 2: when she when Porscha is fun, she is fun. She
Speaker 2: is a fun girl. We hung up before, like before
Speaker 2: all that shit. She is a fun girl. And that's
Speaker 2: the one we want to see, don't you You you're
Speaker 2: too much of a reality show Vett Porscha. You don't
Speaker 2: have to do these fake like hmm, I know something
Speaker 2: that you don't know or I heard, and then not
Speaker 2: deliver like you, that's like a rookie thing. That's not
Speaker 2: something that's a veteran that you are. You got this
Speaker 2: without that. Just be fun and cute like people like
Speaker 2: that for you.
Speaker 1: The reason why I think we all love housewives, for example,
Speaker 1: is because when the tough gets tough, it gets going.
Speaker 1: But there always seems to be room for like some
Speaker 1: levity and they're back and forth. It wasn't gross. They
Speaker 1: didn't like call each other out their names. It was
Speaker 1: a very nice, nasty back and forth. That was a
Speaker 1: dash of shade, But it made me miss the fact
Speaker 1: that we're not going to see those two have those
Speaker 1: moments on camera, because the moment they started bantering on
Speaker 1: social media, I was like, this is why I want
Speaker 1: to see the two of you back in reunited. There
Speaker 1: has been conversations about whether or not Kenyamore should attend
Speaker 1: the reunion. She did start her YouTube channel, so maybe
Speaker 1: she's confessing thereby Dustin, you believe she should be at
Speaker 1: the reunion.
Speaker 4: She deserves to be at the reunion.
Speaker 3: This has Kenya attending the reunion for season sixteen at
Speaker 3: the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Her needing her the necessity
Speaker 3: of her presence has nothing to do with whether you
Speaker 3: like her or don't, whether you agree with her decision
Speaker 3: to post those photographs and posters or not. She's a
Speaker 3: part of the story of the season, and we were abruptly.
Speaker 3: I feel like our viewership was interrupted by her departure.
Speaker 3: We never got to see what she had to say
Speaker 3: on the show. My only thing is I don't agree.
Speaker 3: I don't understand fuck agreeing with because it's not about
Speaker 3: whether I agree with it or not. I don't understand
Speaker 3: why she's doing that YouTube thing, calling it confessionals my way.
Speaker 3: I don't understand why her why she's choosing to speak
Speaker 3: out in response to things that people have said. I
Speaker 3: understand that she's upset about her departure and she felt
Speaker 3: like she was done wrong, So I understand that part.
Speaker 3: But I just feel like she's taking a complete wrong
Speaker 3: approach because it's making her look bitter. It's making her
Speaker 3: look as it she's not taking accountability for her choice
Speaker 3: or decision to post those damn pictures and show those posters,
Speaker 3: and it just does not leave a good impression on
Speaker 3: her exit from her participation. From that view, I wish
Speaker 3: that Kenya would just be quiet, okay, first of all,
Speaker 3: and commodify what she has to say.
Speaker 4: Look at what brit Edie did.
Speaker 3: We didn't hear nothing from brit Edie through her nose
Speaker 3: until after everybody else had done their press run, everybody
Speaker 3: else had offered context, everybody else had made posts online.
Speaker 4: Now Britt is talking now.
Speaker 3: The episodes have progressed to a point in the season
Speaker 3: where her take or her say is something of interest now,
Speaker 3: and so she's offering it to me. She's winning the
Speaker 3: pr battle between her and Kenya right now, and that
Speaker 3: ain't got nothing to do with what side you on.
Speaker 3: As far as the shit on the show, I'm talking
Speaker 3: about the way that it's being handled in the aftermath.
Speaker 3: I am disappointed in the way Kenya Moore is handling
Speaker 3: this because I feel like she deserves better.
Speaker 2: It seems that she's doing that to me, that shows
Speaker 2: me that she knows she's not gonna be at the reunion.
Speaker 4: Damn, Claudia, you think so, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because like if she knew, Kenya waited all the time
Speaker 2: to tell us, for us to find out that brit
Speaker 2: had a gun, right, and I know she I never
Speaker 2: knew that about this gun thing. She's a patient person.
Speaker 2: So I think she did the YouTube channel because she
Speaker 2: knows she's not gonna be at the reunion. So it's like,
Speaker 2: let me get ahead of this and just say what
Speaker 2: I got to say. Because Kenya that we all know,
Speaker 2: we'd be like, Okay, I'm gonna shut the hell up
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna drop it on the reunion. She's not.
Speaker 2: She probably knows she's not able to do that. My opinion,
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, Carlos.
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I think this. I think when it comes
Speaker 1: to Kenya, I agree with Dustin in the sense of
Speaker 1: I am pleasantly surprised and I'm being rid. When I
Speaker 1: say this as a producer, I am pleasantly surprised that
Speaker 1: brit Die decided not to say aatnything until the episode
Speaker 1: aired and she was on her press run. I will
Speaker 1: give her round of applause for having that much strength
Speaker 1: to not crash out on social media. And I do
Speaker 1: mean that. I do mean that she and Kenya arguably
Speaker 1: have the biggest storyline in the history of that show.
Speaker 1: So the fact that she had enough stability to say
Speaker 1: I'll wait until I go on my New York press run,
Speaker 1: I'll give her props with that one thousand percent, and
Speaker 1: I think she handled it well. But we also have
Speaker 1: to remember though Brent also has professionals in the show.
Speaker 1: You get to hear Brent's up Brent Lord Jesus, you
Speaker 1: get to hear BRIT's POV. You get to see Brent's
Speaker 1: slice of life. You get to see Brent as a sister,
Speaker 1: You get to see Brent as a friend. I think
Speaker 1: Kenya more as somebody who has given her her blessed
Speaker 1: but in tears to the show and not being able
Speaker 1: to have a voice, you know, literally meeting an interview
Speaker 1: on the show where she's able to give us some
Speaker 1: context around the edges of the scenes. I think it's
Speaker 1: difficult to watch a show that you've been on for
Speaker 1: ten years, ten plus years, I believe, and you're watching
Speaker 1: a story be told without your point of view. That
Speaker 1: is frustrating. I don't agree with a lot of things
Speaker 1: Kenya does. Me and her have that friendship and we
Speaker 1: talk about that. But I will say when it comes
Speaker 1: to the way she's handling it as somebody you guys
Speaker 1: know her too, but as somebody who knows her, I'm
Speaker 1: also surprised she hasn't fully crashed out. But Kenya that
Speaker 1: I know, would have crashed out in a way that
Speaker 1: would have been way more damaging. I think Kenya has
Speaker 1: been very respectful when it comes to what she says
Speaker 1: about the network. I don't think unless unless, unless you
Speaker 1: guys disagree. I don't think she has said anything damaging
Speaker 1: to them to where she can't go back from it. Right.
Speaker 1: We've seen other people have that faith. I don't think
Speaker 1: Kenya has has that has done that just yet or
Speaker 1: or or will do that. I'm just saying that. I
Speaker 1: think I think we have to look at a woman
Speaker 1: who has spent her entire decade career or reality television
Speaker 1: as the force multiplier, as the person who gives you
Speaker 1: great shade, and now she's unable to do that. I'm
Speaker 1: curious what this YouTube channel will be. Maybe it's a
Speaker 1: one and done thing Dustin't to where she says one
Speaker 1: thing and she's out the door. She did post today
Speaker 1: to have her fans some the questions. She's calling it
Speaker 1: a key key with Kenya, So maybe it's something where
Speaker 1: she's doing a Porsche's doing. Maybe she's eating food and
Speaker 1: she's whatever the case may be. But I agree that
Speaker 1: I would like to see her at the reunion. I
Speaker 1: would like to see the story be finished to where
Speaker 1: her and brit can face each other. And I've seen
Speaker 1: Brit say that, yeah, I apologize, but I think and
Speaker 1: listen to Bris. Credit to Bris credit, she did attend
Speaker 1: the hair salon with Flowers with the intention of apologizing,
Speaker 1: so I'll give her that she had the intention of
Speaker 1: doing that, so she at least had the attention. And
Speaker 1: I would love to see them both apologize to each
Speaker 1: other face to face, versus they're both apologizing about it separately.
Speaker 2: They could be at their reunion together. They're sitting way
Speaker 2: apart from each other because after watching last night's episode,
Speaker 2: I Brittany Britt is a total crash out. She's I
Speaker 2: think she's a little unstable. The way she popped off
Speaker 2: Angela and tripping, and she was like so ready to
Speaker 2: buck up, and you see, it's not just like her
Speaker 2: Kenyan thing, it's her Anyone thing. I think she has
Speaker 2: a very highly inflated sense of self where everyone can
Speaker 2: you know, she can say whatever anyone else and be
Speaker 2: braddy and be obnoxious, but they can't dare question her.
Speaker 2: All Angela did was ask her if she really was
Speaker 2: fired or she lost her insurance license. And the way
Speaker 2: she said, have you now you confused about what's been
Speaker 2: going on? I thought that was like, you're just misdirecting
Speaker 2: your anger she called, and the way she bucked up
Speaker 2: it shows that she's been trying to have a moment
Speaker 2: from the beginning, and I do. I I'm sorry. I
Speaker 2: don't like her now on the show. I don't know
Speaker 2: her personally in real life. So before you get all
Speaker 2: panties and a bunch, Britt, I don't like you on
Speaker 2: the show. I think you bring very much ghetto energy.
Speaker 2: I can't take your very nasally sounding knows, the way
Speaker 2: you talk it's just like, whoever did that? Please open
Speaker 2: up those nasal passages. It's too much like it's like,
Speaker 2: how does your your husband's a saint? I don't like
Speaker 2: you anymore the way you bucked up. How we are
Speaker 2: protecting Angela Oakley and with all costs by all means. Okay,
Speaker 2: Angela didn't even ask me anything that was negative or mean.
Speaker 2: She said, I'm a broker too, like how does that happen?
Speaker 2: And I did my research, well, a little bit of research.
Speaker 2: There's a LinkedIn page for Britt in her company that
Speaker 2: she was doing her insurance stuff with Right, and I
Speaker 2: contacted a real estate agent as and also someone that
Speaker 2: is in the mortgage brokerage business brit eating her. According
Speaker 2: to her LinkedIn page, she was with all State full
Speaker 2: time and that was from January of twenty twenty twenty
Speaker 2: to April of twenty twenty three, three years and four months.
Speaker 2: So it says that she's been done doing it. So
Speaker 2: I don't know if she lost her license from this
Speaker 2: incident or she just I don't know. And I also
Speaker 2: talked to someone that said I asked, I said, so
Speaker 2: can you lose your license for? Is there like clauses
Speaker 2: for personal behavior and all that kind of stuff, like
Speaker 2: what do they call those morality clause And they said,
Speaker 2: my friend that is was my loan said no, there
Speaker 2: are strippers that do all kinds of OnlyFans, all that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, that have these licenses that they don't
Speaker 2: lose their jobs. So that is bullshit. They said she
Speaker 2: would lose her license for financial crimes, fraud, things of
Speaker 2: that matter, not if and think how fast it's happened, right,
Speaker 2: we are all just seeing the episode. Now, this happened
Speaker 2: when it happened. So you mean to tell me between
Speaker 2: that the Kenny Moore haircare event and then what a
Speaker 2: month later your company knew about this big scandal that
Speaker 2: was at a private event and you lost your license.
Speaker 2: I think she's playing the victim card extra extra, extra
Speaker 2: hard now like she sees an opening she try to
Speaker 2: come for the queen in her mind. That didn't really
Speaker 2: pan out the way she thought. She got read down
Speaker 2: and made to look like erratic. So now let me
Speaker 2: play this victim card thing. And did you see how
Speaker 2: her mother was looking at it when she was telling
Speaker 2: her story. Her mother was looking like then at the end,
Speaker 2: she realized, oh I'm on TV. Let me Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: girl because you're pretty, and you know they hate on
Speaker 2: you because you're pretty girl. But I look at her
Speaker 2: mother's face, go back. Her mother was like, here we
Speaker 2: go again. That's what I got. That's what I got
Speaker 2: from that.
Speaker 3: But to be fair, they were talking about pictures with
Speaker 3: her sucking. So I think anybody that was talking to
Speaker 3: their daughter about somebody showing pictures of them sucking had
Speaker 3: that face.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I had the face and
Speaker 4: I didn't even see her sucking.
Speaker 3: But I personally think that bridd definitely approached that garden
Speaker 3: table Kelly's event with a clear and apparent chip on
Speaker 3: her shoulder. She was absolutely defensive and she was looking
Speaker 3: for something to defend in that moment. I also though,
Speaker 3: right this week's episode, we saw way more of Bridg's POV.
Speaker 3: We heard way more of her perspective on what happened,
Speaker 3: what went down.
Speaker 4: Right, And.
Speaker 3: I don't know, just hearing her, seeing her discussed that
Speaker 3: situation with her husband, seeing her discuss that situation with
Speaker 3: her mother, it humanized her for me as a viewer, right,
Speaker 3: And I was just very aware of like the humiliation
Speaker 3: piece of it, all right, And I'm like Damn, this
Speaker 3: is really okay now, I see Because initially, as this
Speaker 3: was going on and being talked about and people were
Speaker 3: having these shock reactions to this incident, I was thinking,
Speaker 3: you know, this is a terrible thing that took place.
Speaker 3: But I just I hadn't seen brit talk about it.
Speaker 3: I hadn't seen Brit talk to her husband about it,
Speaker 3: talk to her mother about it. So once we were
Speaker 3: fortunate enough to kind of get that really personal moment
Speaker 3: on camera.
Speaker 4: I felt for her. I did.
Speaker 3: I felt for her in a different way than I
Speaker 3: did when I watched the shit on TV last week.
Speaker 3: I felt for her differently than I did when I
Speaker 3: watched her and postings online about it when it's initially
Speaker 3: made news that something happened and Kenya had been released
Speaker 3: from filming. I don't know, it just humanized her. I
Speaker 3: felt for her last night when I watched that show.
Speaker 3: That don't mean that I didn't think she was she
Speaker 3: had a nasty attitude at that garden table lunching. That
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that I don't think that she was completely
Speaker 3: rude and nasty and aggressive to Angela Oakley, who I
Speaker 3: love on the show. That doesn't mean that I don't
Speaker 3: think that she was clearly and definitely like I agree
Speaker 3: with you, Claudia, she was gunning for Kenya, who she
Speaker 3: deemed a.
Speaker 4: Big dog, you know.
Speaker 3: And I think Brittany kind of all britt excuse me,
Speaker 3: kind of may have I'm assuming that she always saw
Speaker 3: like a villainous role for herself on this show. She
Speaker 3: exudes that sort of energy, a pretty villain like Kenya.
Speaker 3: It would have been nice to see Kenya and britt
Speaker 3: be mean girls and run the show together in a
Speaker 3: nasty way. Sorry, I know it's probably toxic to say that,
Speaker 3: but it would have been nice to see Kenya have
Speaker 3: a partner in crime on this show, like what we
Speaker 3: thought her and LaToya Forever were gonna be in season thirteen.
Speaker 3: We would have had two beautiful women with sharp tongues
Speaker 3: and unique tones of voice who could have really been
Speaker 3: interesting on this show together, but we got robbed of that.
Speaker 3: I'm a person who thinks Kenya belongs on the show.
Speaker 3: I just fell for brit in this last episode. I did, Carl, did.
Speaker 2: Y'all catch the one thing? And it's one thing when
Speaker 2: you're you know, you made a sex tape with your
Speaker 2: boyfriend and exposers, that's a horrible thing, and shame on
Speaker 2: that man if he put that out there, right, that's disgusting. Right,
Speaker 2: I understand a woman that feels like, damn, why are
Speaker 2: you gonna put me out there like that? That can
Speaker 2: happen to anyone who's not a virgin, right. But she
Speaker 2: also slipped something by us real quickly, a throwaway that
Speaker 2: we're not giving any attention to. Yeah, so I was
Speaker 2: giving the web I was a webcam girl. If you're
Speaker 2: a webcam girl, naked pitches of you on the internet
Speaker 2: are not humiliating. That's how you got your money. And
Speaker 2: I think we have to talk about that just a
Speaker 2: little bit, because if you're a webcam girl, you take requests.
Speaker 2: What these men want you to do? Hey, put five dollars?
Speaker 2: Can you play with your pussy a little bit? Can
Speaker 2: you see it? Can you spread it open? Ca I
Speaker 2: see a titty?
Speaker 1: So I don't.
Speaker 2: Personally, it doesn't. I'm not buying that this was so humiliated.
Speaker 2: Maybe on Housewives with your rebrand now that you're married,
Speaker 2: you might be like, well, that's in my past, but
Speaker 2: like she's really putting ten on twenty now. Not to
Speaker 2: say you can't change, you can, but think of the
Speaker 2: psychology of some on the video of her and the
Speaker 2: picture of her with a boyfriend. That's fole. Okay, let
Speaker 2: me be very clear. I'm very supportive of any woman
Speaker 2: that has happened to you, because that's horrible. But the
Speaker 2: webcam girl, that's almost where I'm like, hmm, you had
Speaker 2: your nick stuff on the internet. I'm sorry, God, Carlos,
Speaker 2: please finish. No, I've been shady enough. They're gonna think
Speaker 2: I hate her now too.
Speaker 1: No, it's fine, No, I will say this. Okay, I
Speaker 1: want to go back with Dustin and then go with you, Claudia.
Speaker 1: I agree with Dustin. Listen, listen, listen. Regardless of what
Speaker 1: your past is, and we've all had a pass right,
Speaker 1: nobody wants could be reminded of something that you may
Speaker 1: have gotten over and gotten through. I did feel obviously,
Speaker 1: I feel bad for her. It's humiliating for that to
Speaker 1: be shown with with with with your peers, especially as
Speaker 1: you're trying to get to know these new women on
Speaker 1: the show. And then it's at an event, right, so
Speaker 1: I understand the tears from being humiliated, because yes, I
Speaker 1: may have done that in my past. However, nobody should
Speaker 1: ever be nobody she had to be judged by things
Speaker 1: they've done in their past. We've all had a pass
Speaker 1: So I did I agree with us. I felt bad
Speaker 1: with her there. I will say this though, I clocked
Speaker 1: the webcam signed thank you for breaking down the definition
Speaker 1: of it, because as a little gay boy Detrent, Michigan,
Speaker 1: I wasn't looking at the webcam, you know, saying I
Speaker 1: was watching Blurt Underwood a law and order child.
Speaker 3: No, who is the way? As you know what I'm
Speaker 3: talking about. I can't think of his name. You're on
Speaker 3: law order or something. Now we'll go ahead.
Speaker 1: Oh let's latch la law please. I digress. Anyways, moving on, child,
Speaker 1: we are just getting started. This is reality with the King,
Speaker 1: and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 1: I also clopped. I also clopped the cavalier word teenager.
Speaker 1: And I want to stop there because I'm going to
Speaker 1: I'm going to stop there because I want to add
Speaker 1: to what Party was saying. Teenager The definition of as
Speaker 1: a journalist right means thirteen through nineteen right. I my opinion,
Speaker 1: I felt the insertion of teenager a lot of room
Speaker 1: for in u windows and for me, I felt that
Speaker 1: that could be seen as dangerous because I feel like
Speaker 1: I applaud her for admitting to the webcampaign. Right, I would,
Speaker 1: And maybe she doesn't remember the exact age, but I
Speaker 1: would have. I would have preferred if she could have
Speaker 1: put an age to it. I was this teen, I
Speaker 1: was that teen. I think saying teenager leads a lot
Speaker 1: to the imagination, and I just think that's dangerous based
Speaker 1: on some things that we have been hearing that she
Speaker 1: possibly could have been under age. We just don't know,
Speaker 1: so I would have life for her to say that.
Speaker 1: The other thing I've clocked with her mother is this,
Speaker 1: I listen. I would have preferred for Brent, and maybe
Speaker 1: it's happening in future episodes. I don't know. I personally
Speaker 1: would have preferred for Brett and her mother to talk
Speaker 1: about why a teenage girl with a mom is in
Speaker 1: that position. I was really looking forward to a conversation
Speaker 1: of I felt abandoned, Mom, you weren't there for me,
Speaker 1: you know. I felt the focus of the conversation wasn't
Speaker 1: enough for us to really get to know brit on
Speaker 1: a deeper level. I'm gonna say this and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna take it back. I don't want to hear about
Speaker 1: Kenya now that she's not there anymore. I'm hoping, I'm
Speaker 1: hoping this is the last episode where the focus is
Speaker 1: on Kenya. I understand talking to your husband about Kenya
Speaker 1: got it good. I understand talking to Kelly Vou Kenya
Speaker 1: got it good. That conversation with your mom, I felt
Speaker 1: there was a repeat of what I saw with the
Speaker 1: husband and when I saw with Kelly, and I wanted
Speaker 1: Britt to have a deep conversation about why a teenage
Speaker 1: girl is in that position the first place, so that
Speaker 1: we could shed light on the on the life choices
Speaker 1: that girl had to make and while her mother is
Speaker 1: there with her. So I felt like Brit missed the
Speaker 1: mark in terms of really going going deeper with letting
Speaker 1: us know who you are because I feel bad for you.
Speaker 1: I know you feel humiliated all those things. But it's
Speaker 1: a lot of the people on social media, which is
Speaker 1: surprising to me, if I'm being honest, they're not really
Speaker 1: they're they're there are a lot of them are team Kenya,
Speaker 1: and I'll just be honest, I am. I am shocked
Speaker 1: by the people who aren't really feeling BRIT's remorse.
Speaker 2: And to be clear, we got we have to reiterate it.
Speaker 2: We're not we're not approving condoning what Kenya Moore did
Speaker 2: that wasn't good. It was actually career suicide for her participation.
Speaker 2: It was stupid and we and yet not cut you off.
Speaker 1: All three of us for the past three weeks have
Speaker 1: said she was wrong. Yeah, so stop right.
Speaker 2: They want to They want to say that we're making
Speaker 2: excuses for her. No, we said it was wrong, it
Speaker 2: was stupid. But when you see it play out with
Speaker 2: the whole thing, how it led up to that, I get.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes people say you can't hurt someone and
Speaker 2: judge how they respond, however the right. But we pick
Speaker 2: and choose if we like the person, right, we like
Speaker 2: the person you know, hey, you can't. We gotta have
Speaker 2: we gotta be like I don't know if I was
Speaker 2: Kenya and a girl talked about a gun, whether she
Speaker 2: had it on her or didn't you talking that big
Speaker 2: talk gun talk, I'm taking you out and I'll probably
Speaker 2: do some some crafts off ship that might not really
Speaker 2: be seen as morally correct. I totally understand that. Is
Speaker 2: it right?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: But is the thing right that caused you to do it?
Speaker 2: It's not right? No, But if you think about human
Speaker 2: emotions and how you would really be everyone that's watching
Speaker 2: the show. Let someone say that and then you expect
Speaker 2: them one week later or whatever it was, to be
Speaker 2: kumbaya and accept some flowers. Bitch, fuck you, fuck you
Speaker 2: and your flowers. It's not gonna take you showing up
Speaker 2: at my event because you know you had to be
Speaker 2: there because you were shooting a show for me to say, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's something you have to massage and like, you know,
Speaker 2: really work on that. And you knew you weren't going
Speaker 2: to get that. You knew you had. You've watched Real
Speaker 2: housewse of Atlanta, you're a fan. You had to know
Speaker 2: that that was never gonna go over. It was gonna
Speaker 2: give you another big poping moment. And that's that. Like,
Speaker 2: let's let's call it what it is. It's a TV show, okay,
Speaker 2: And you know that that was some fake as a policy. Shit,
Speaker 2: I felt like it was fake.
Speaker 3: It is a TV show, which is exactly why Kenya
Speaker 3: should have been more astute as a veteran member of
Speaker 3: this cast than to react to what she was uncomfortable,
Speaker 3: uncomfortable with, or felt made to feel unsafe by by
Speaker 3: doing something stupid. Like what she did, which essentially robbed
Speaker 3: herself of the opportunity to be on the cast. That
Speaker 3: was dumb, and it was it was dumb on a
Speaker 3: it was dumb on a professional level. From that lens.
Speaker 3: And then let's take it to the street, right, what
Speaker 3: is this? What is the impact fact of you doing?
Speaker 3: What does this do to like? How do you win
Speaker 3: by doing this? I personally just don't see how the win.
Speaker 3: I don't see how you can be scared for your
Speaker 3: life because if you say somebody throwing you with a gun,
Speaker 3: and then in your mind you say, yeah, I know
Speaker 3: how to get her ass. I'm gonna show them pictures
Speaker 3: of her sucking to Dick. That's gonna get her. I
Speaker 3: just don't see the correlation. I don't see I just
Speaker 3: it just doesn't make sense for me either way. And
Speaker 3: I hated to see Kenya go out like that because again,
Speaker 3: I feel like she should be a part of this cast.
Speaker 3: So for me, it's just I'm just over the whole situation,
Speaker 3: and I'm with Carlos actually on this. I don't want
Speaker 3: to hear no more about Kenya. We can talk about
Speaker 3: the fallout in the way it's impacted the group dynamics
Speaker 3: and the relationships amongst the group, within the group that
Speaker 3: are remaining. But I don't want to hear about the
Speaker 3: Kenya piece of it all anymore. If we're gonna keep
Speaker 3: talking about Kenya, bring her back to filming and let
Speaker 3: her be here to speak for herself. If not, let's
Speaker 3: just move on from that piece of the story.
Speaker 2: So, because if that's all you got for the season
Speaker 2: to talk about, woe was me?
Speaker 4: I was as he was gone.
Speaker 2: Were you were a teenager at nineteen or were you underage?
Speaker 2: It was still bad but one illegal Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: To that piece too, the underage piece, Carlos, You're right,
Speaker 3: that's it's very it is. It is a very sensitive
Speaker 3: allegation to make towards someone that they did anything sexual
Speaker 3: in connection to somebody being underage.
Speaker 4: Right, you can't play with.
Speaker 3: That, So that grace speak that she used with that,
Speaker 3: and that that umbrella term of teenager. You're right, you
Speaker 3: gotta be specific when you're talking about legal shit like that.
Speaker 3: You can't make those allegations because if Kenya didn't do that,
Speaker 3: that's a terrible thing to say that she did. So
Speaker 3: I agree with that that that was what they call
Speaker 3: that nasty work using the word teenager, right, I think
Speaker 3: she knew.
Speaker 2: What she was doing when she did that. Like we
Speaker 2: know what the word teenager implies, but like you could
Speaker 2: be nineteen and like there's one thing, it's either way.
Speaker 2: It was impoor taste, it was horrible taste, it was stupid,
Speaker 2: it was wrong, was bad. We know that. But you know, oh,
Speaker 2: I was just a teenager. And when Portia said that too,
Speaker 2: like y'all putting ten on twenty right now? If she
Speaker 2: was nineteen, right, Like you know what you're trying to
Speaker 2: do again, The victim storyline for this entire season is
Speaker 2: gonna get old because now Keny's not there anymore. What
Speaker 2: else you got for us after this? What else do
Speaker 2: you have after this? And I just feel like she's
Speaker 2: putting ten on twenty And I hate that Kenya made
Speaker 2: this rookie mistake that allowed this girl to play this
Speaker 2: role and be the victim now over and over over,
Speaker 2: And she was a victim that night. Okay, But do
Speaker 2: you think for a moment that Bravo would even air
Speaker 2: any parts of that scene if they knew or they
Speaker 2: and they will find out right if in those pictures
Speaker 2: that girl was actually underage? Absolutely not. Bravo was too
Speaker 2: smart for that then not gonna let that happen. If
Speaker 2: that was in fact a picture of Britain when she
Speaker 2: was sixteen, I think the age of consent in Georgia's seventeen.
Speaker 2: I think if she was, if she was like sixteen
Speaker 2: in those pictures, we would have never seen the scene. Ever.
Speaker 2: Braba would have shut that shit down. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: I don't think we'd ever even know about it. They
Speaker 2: would have been like, nah, none of this stuff is good.
Speaker 2: They could not, They couldn't, they would be They would
Speaker 2: not be a part of that. I think, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Angela Uakley for piping that scene up
Speaker 3: though at the table, because Angela was asking the motherfucking
Speaker 3: questions that she was asking the praguntas that were on
Speaker 3: the piece, so okay for our Spanish speaking viewership, she
Speaker 3: was asking the right motherfucking questions that Angela said, Okay,
Speaker 3: so what you know? She said, yeah, but you can't
Speaker 3: start there. She said, you're not acknowledging the part you
Speaker 3: played and getting it to this point she was nailing
Speaker 3: Bridge's ass to the wall, and brit was not able
Speaker 3: to take that and receive that at the moment, but
Speaker 3: she started it by bringing that negative energy. What is
Speaker 3: she asking, are you slow or whatever she said to her,
Speaker 3: she was naw.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I like Anna. Plus y'all know, I don't care.
Speaker 3: I'd be biased sometimes. I like Angela. I've been enjoying
Speaker 3: the hell out of her this season. I like Ane Oakley.
Speaker 3: I like what she's bringing to this show. So, you know,
Speaker 3: I thought that was of note that britt was really
Speaker 3: the one responsible for being making it nasty at the table.
Speaker 4: Like that, Carls.
Speaker 2: I like what you said earlier about like, I know
Speaker 2: I've been giving Brittany a britt a hard time tonight,
Speaker 2: and I acknowledge that, and I receive that, and I
Speaker 2: will stand by that I have been. But like I
Speaker 2: too think that I like complex characters on shows where
Speaker 2: they see one thing about them and then your mind
Speaker 2: is able to be changed because they are vulnerable in
Speaker 2: the scene, and they give us if she would have
Speaker 2: said something about you know, why she was in that position,
Speaker 2: why she felt abandoned, why she felt she had to
Speaker 2: do that, why that was the only option that could
Speaker 2: have changed our perception or give us a little bit
Speaker 2: more understanding. I like to know the why. You know,
Speaker 2: no one just goes and becomes a webcam girl just
Speaker 2: because it's fun. There's a story behind that, and honest
Speaker 2: people like it.
Speaker 4: Some people just want to be free, they want to
Speaker 4: show what they got. Yes, that's true.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, the thing is, it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where I'm gonna say this. For example, when
Speaker 1: we did season I believe it was season eight of
Speaker 1: The Real Housewives Atlanta, Kenya Moore was on that show
Speaker 1: seasons five, six, seven, so three for three seasons. Prior
Speaker 1: to season eight, long story short, Kenya was seen as
Speaker 1: like this villain, right, Oh my gosh, there's a villain.
Speaker 1: Why he mean? Da da da da da da da da.
Speaker 1: We had an opportunity to go to Detroit, Michigan, and
Speaker 1: I fought for that scene because I said, I, in
Speaker 1: order for the world to understand Kenya, you have to
Speaker 1: go backwards and understand the girl that she was so
Speaker 1: long story short, and this was all Kenya's doing, and
Speaker 1: that's why Kenya was a joy to work with. When
Speaker 1: we went to Detroit, Kenya knocked on her mother's door
Speaker 1: and I got chills and Clauda. You may not remember
Speaker 1: this allegedly was her mother. I don't know because we
Speaker 1: weren't inside the house. Kenya heard the door lock and
Speaker 1: heard a woman's voice allegedly could have been her mother.
Speaker 1: I don't know, say don't answer the door, and Kenya
Speaker 1: was crying out for her mother, and in that very moment,
Speaker 1: this is a true story. In that very moment, me,
Speaker 1: the producers, everybody involved said we now get it, we
Speaker 1: now understand it now making excuses for Kenya in terms
Speaker 1: of the adult woman she is. However, when you learn
Speaker 1: something about who a young girl was in their youth
Speaker 1: it I promise you will find things that make sense
Speaker 1: in terms of who they are as an adult. I
Speaker 1: have people to this day stop me and say that
Speaker 1: scene alone made me see Kenya in a very different light.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was saying about the scene with
Speaker 1: Brett and her mother. I felt like Brent was on
Speaker 1: this of Kenya campaign train and I listen, and I
Speaker 1: get it because you were emotional at the time. But
Speaker 1: I still feel like, unfortunately I don't know her. I
Speaker 1: don't know her, I don't know her. Who I do know, Kelly,
Speaker 1: I love you, but I got a confession to make.
Speaker 1: Angela is not my number one favorite ed but Kelly Kelly,
Speaker 1: I still love you though. But Kelly, I gotta be honest.
Speaker 1: I took this spot at least this week. Angela Oakley,
Speaker 1: I know who she is I as a wife, I
Speaker 1: know who she is as a mother. I know who
Speaker 1: she is as a friend. I know who she is
Speaker 1: as a person. The way she clocked Britney britt ed,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry and said to her, now wait a minute,
Speaker 1: like when she said read the motherfucking room and she said,
Speaker 1: now wait a minute, like what we're doing here, Tila
Speaker 1: is superb. Angela should have been on the show in
Speaker 1: the days of Menie Kimi Cheat because I would have
Speaker 1: loved to see how she would have the dynamics with
Speaker 1: those with those ogs. I think, Angela, but this is
Speaker 1: the thing. Angela wasn't there to be on someone's side,
Speaker 1: and I think, look this, and this is not a
Speaker 1: bad thing. Everybody deserves a friend like Kelly hell. I
Speaker 1: want to friend like Kelly.
Speaker 2: Kelly Kelly, I know you watch it. I got your message.
Speaker 1: She watches.
Speaker 2: She watches because we have a mutual friend and I
Speaker 2: don't reveal my sources, but she told my friend that
Speaker 2: she heard me say some really nice things, all saying
Speaker 2: nice things about her, and she liked it. She said that,
Speaker 2: so shout out to Kelly.
Speaker 4: We spoked with you. Kelly. We like you on the show.
Speaker 2: Do your thing, Kelly. We don't hang with our mutual friend.
Speaker 2: When I come to Atlanta, I'll be there on my play.
Speaker 2: I'm going to invite you to play on May fifteen
Speaker 2: and sixteen. I think it is in Atlanta something like that.
Speaker 2: I'll have my people with touching you.
Speaker 1: Yes at the gag is all the housewives watching? But anyway,
Speaker 1: can I.
Speaker 2: Just say something real quick, Carlos, I know that I am.
Speaker 2: I'm hard on certain people, and people have made me
Speaker 2: keenly aware. I know that, and people say, defend Kenya.
Speaker 2: It's when you're brave enough. And I will do this
Speaker 2: with anyone that is brave enough to explain their villain
Speaker 2: arc you when you watch a scary movie, I mean
Speaker 2: a movie where there's a villain and then you go
Speaker 2: back like I used to think the witch in Sleep
Speaker 2: and Beauty was so evil, and then Malipisen came out
Speaker 2: and you got her side, the story of why she
Speaker 2: is the way she is.
Speaker 4: The origin story, origin story.
Speaker 2: Yes, brit Portie, Nini, Phedra Kenya, all of you that
Speaker 2: when you when you decide to be vulnerable and share
Speaker 2: what is the thing that made you the way you are,
Speaker 2: that the things that we don't like or whatever, you
Speaker 2: will get the other half of the people that don't
Speaker 2: write like you like that to love you and we
Speaker 2: could understand why you do the things to do. That's
Speaker 2: you know. I think it's a good idea to if
Speaker 2: you feel confident enough to share things about you that
Speaker 2: may be hard in your heart or made you come
Speaker 2: off cold or whatever, it makes you more human and
Speaker 2: then we can relate to you and then we won't
Speaker 2: judge you based on this half a story you're giving us.
Speaker 2: We got the full picture. And I think that will
Speaker 2: help every reality star when you can say what really
Speaker 2: is an issue? That's why I love people like Memi Fouls.
Speaker 2: She'll tell you abandonment issues, abuse, father wasn't there, mother
Speaker 2: wasn't there, bad choices and relationships. And that's why I
Speaker 2: can defend someone like that because I understand why it's
Speaker 2: the why. Once we know your why, we won't judge.
Speaker 2: Like we can say we don't judge, we all judge. Okay,
Speaker 2: we all judge. We all judge, Okay, whether it's our
Speaker 2: group text or on whatever. We know your why, we
Speaker 2: can understand you better. And I promise you the criticism
Speaker 2: won't be as harsh because we get it, that's all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I agree. I want to shift gears
Speaker 1: a bit and get into the scene that Porsche has
Speaker 1: at with Shamiah, Drew and Kelly. In this scene, Porsche
Speaker 1: is revealing to the girls of a conversation that she
Speaker 1: had with her daughter. In this In this conversation you
Speaker 1: have the girls, she's discussing that her divorce was Simon
Speaker 1: and how her daughter PJ asked, whereas Simon who he called?
Speaker 1: Who she calls is if Papa got on something of
Speaker 1: those one of those things popap thing, yeah, and Porscha say,
Speaker 1: he's at work, and then Polar said he's coming back.
Speaker 1: And then Porscha teared up, and Porsch said, because of that,
Speaker 1: she she did send Simon a text message that he
Speaker 1: left on read literally because he has a he has
Speaker 1: the reader receipts some child. So she felt in that
Speaker 1: moment this is done, and she she she said out
Speaker 1: her own mouth, he doesn't love him anymore. What did
Speaker 1: you two make of that scene, did you feel like
Speaker 1: you now got a chance to really see a little
Speaker 1: bit more of what was going on in their relationship.
Speaker 2: On one hand, I was actually surprised that she got
Speaker 2: emotional over Simon because I never thought that she really
Speaker 2: loved him like that. I thought it was just like
Speaker 2: a money grab, So that was shocking to me. I
Speaker 2: was like, wow, I didn't know that things that she
Speaker 2: really liked him. But then you do see some videos
Speaker 2: of online where they're dancing, they look at they're having
Speaker 2: a good time. Again, I would like to know her
Speaker 2: origin story because you want to give grace to people.
Speaker 2: You want to be like, oh, I feel bad for her.
Speaker 2: Then you also think, well, damn, you took someone else's
Speaker 2: d it and you was kind of like flaunting it
Speaker 2: all over social media and didn't think about how you
Speaker 2: broke someone else's heart. But even with that being said,
Speaker 2: that she did do that, Okay, you can still have
Speaker 2: empathy for someone that's going through something. That's an awful
Speaker 2: thing that Simon's doing to come into someone's life, present
Speaker 2: yourself as this Prince Charming minus the looks, and sorry,
Speaker 2: it's giving mom, I canna say it was giving y'all
Speaker 2: know who what old famous female actors. He looks like
Speaker 2: Florida Evans. Okay, but for a man, it's not good.
Speaker 2: So anyways, come into someone's life, bond with someone's child,
Speaker 2: marry them, and give that child a sense of stability,
Speaker 2: like we're a family together. And then when it doesn't
Speaker 2: work out with a mom, and then she reaches out
Speaker 2: to you and you ignore. That's fucked up of you, Simon.
Speaker 2: You should be ashamed of yourself, but you're not because
Speaker 2: you're a scammer. I told y'all long time ago he
Speaker 2: wasn't who he said he was, but y'all didn't want
Speaker 2: to believe you. I thought was a hater. I told
Speaker 2: y'all my sources said he got rich from a scam.
Speaker 2: He got intercepted some money that wired. We'll get into
Speaker 2: that another time, but I'm allegedly, of course, I heard allegedly.
Speaker 2: That's that's awful, Simon. No matter what issues you have
Speaker 2: with Portia, you did come into her life and bond
Speaker 2: with that child, and you should still be the bigger
Speaker 2: person who you are, the bigger person, the wider person.
Speaker 2: You should still go and respond to text about that
Speaker 2: little girl. That is bonding with that's fucked up, and
Speaker 2: I felt for Porscha on and that I thought that
Speaker 2: was really jocked up.
Speaker 4: I felt for Porsche too.
Speaker 3: I think that Porsche is aware that showing emotionally vulnerable
Speaker 3: moments like that will make people empathetic to the breakdown
Speaker 3: of her relationship with Simon, because most people really didn't
Speaker 3: give it damn what she had to say. They felt
Speaker 3: like we were introduced to Simon with another woman, and
Speaker 3: we were introduced to them that couple through Porsche, and
Speaker 3: people then saw Porsha go on to being a very
Speaker 3: public marriage with him. In spite of all of that,
Speaker 3: we went on to see Porscha speak about how the
Speaker 3: relationship between Fallon and Simon was not what we thought
Speaker 3: it was, and she gave us all sorts of contexts
Speaker 3: as to why she was confident in her choice to
Speaker 3: move forward in a relationship with Simon right, But a
Speaker 3: lot of people never reconciled that as viewers. They always
Speaker 3: felt that she was being deceitful in her pursuit of him,
Speaker 3: and that there was absolutely an overlap in those relationships.
Speaker 3: Ending is not my place to say, is I don't
Speaker 3: know you end up in love however, you end up
Speaker 3: getting the right. But when it comes to people feeling
Speaker 3: for Porsche in the breakdown of that marriage, conversations like
Speaker 3: the ones she had on Shemia's patio with the other
Speaker 3: ladies will aid her. They will help her in being likable,
Speaker 3: help her in people understanding where she's coming from. But
Speaker 3: there will still people that still there will still be people,
Speaker 3: excuse me, that won't buy it.
Speaker 4: There will still people that.
Speaker 3: There will still be people that feel like Porscha was
Speaker 3: absolutely aware of what she was doing having that conversation
Speaker 3: on camera. There will be people who feel like Porscha
Speaker 3: was putting on for the cameras, just like a lot
Speaker 3: of people thought Britt was when she went to Shemia's
Speaker 3: house the day after she made the gun comment and
Speaker 3: she started doing all that damage control when they were
Speaker 3: sitting in that living room and she was saying, I
Speaker 3: didn't mean that, I didn't have that all of that.
Speaker 3: So was it performative? Maybe? But who knows. All we
Speaker 3: know is that we're not looking at Simon. We're grateful
Speaker 3: for that, not because of how it looks, but because
Speaker 3: he's an exhausting person to watch on camera, because he's
Speaker 3: so thirsty to be there. That's why we have to
Speaker 3: deal with what we had previously, to deal with social
Speaker 3: media posts from him. We were inundated with his feelings
Speaker 3: on everything. When this show is called The Real Housewives
Speaker 3: of Atlanta, not the Real Couples of Atlanta, we don't
Speaker 3: really give a fuck what Simon got to say, you know,
Speaker 3: but he wanted us to. And I think that that's
Speaker 3: why it's so refreshing to watch the show in his absence.
Speaker 3: So what was Porscha being fake? We don't know. Maybe
Speaker 3: she wasn't. Either way it goes. I hope she gets
Speaker 3: the healing that she needs.
Speaker 4: I just put it like that.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you you to this. When Porscha
Speaker 1: and Simon got together, she shared the story already in
Speaker 1: terms of what happened, But I want to know if
Speaker 1: this makes a difference at all. Balan became pregnant months
Speaker 1: after she revealed she was pregnant. Me say that Balan
Speaker 1: revealed she was pregnant months after her as Simon were
Speaker 1: separated by another man. And this man name is Jayleen Claudia.
Speaker 1: Am I mistaken that was she? In the season of
Speaker 1: the Couples showed bitch different each one.
Speaker 2: I recommended them for that and she got my agent.
Speaker 2: She was the next year.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay. So there were some allegations of cheating,
Speaker 1: that faling was cheating on assignment with Jalen. That's that's
Speaker 1: that's what Simon said, Chid right when she became pregnant
Speaker 1: by this other man after being separated. Does that make
Speaker 1: a difference in terms of people thinking, porcha stole someone's
Speaker 1: happy marriage or was the marriage clearly in trouble hence
Speaker 1: the fact that Falinge was pregnant with some of another
Speaker 1: man's baby.
Speaker 3: No, they don't, because the the umbradge that people have
Speaker 3: taken with that whole situation had nothing to do with
Speaker 3: the state of failing. You know, they're gonna get you
Speaker 3: for calling her failing, Carlos, her name is.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, she fails. No, for all three of us.
Speaker 1: Claudia is a clever one with her shame. I'm not
Speaker 1: that clever. I am loud, gay and funny. I'm the
Speaker 1: most I'm the most clever with my reads. I'll do
Speaker 1: your bottle being every once in a while. So it's it's.
Speaker 3: Falent, Yeah, it's falent. Falling Pina and I think his
Speaker 3: name is Jayleen Banks.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Okay, I'm sorry. I say nonification notifications charming.
Speaker 4: You know, she need to appreciate it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't think that people had an issue
Speaker 3: with it because of the state of nobody gave her.
Speaker 3: Damn really about the state of failing in Simon's marriage.
Speaker 3: What people took issue with was the fact that Portia
Speaker 3: was on camera being introduced to Time and by falling
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, who he was married to
Speaker 3: at the time, and she was now in a relationship
Speaker 3: with him. That just the optics of that just were
Speaker 3: not positive. No matter how fucked up Falling in Simon's
Speaker 3: marriage was, no matter if she was fucking on the
Speaker 3: Jaalen guy at the time or not, no matter, none
Speaker 3: of that matters. People did not like the optics of Porsche.
Speaker 3: That's why Kelly this season is able to crack jokes
Speaker 3: about Porscha stealing somebody's man. That's what it was always about.
Speaker 3: We don't really care if they was having problems or not.
Speaker 3: It's it's the way that it looked. It just didn't
Speaker 3: look right, you know.
Speaker 1: But Dustin, But Dustin, I want I want to ask
Speaker 1: you this, if a couple is married and there's hints
Speaker 1: of infidelic tinse, separation and a not so happy marriage.
Speaker 1: And if we are people who say we don't care
Speaker 1: what people think of how things look is and and listen,
Speaker 1: when it came to Balan and again, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know Falan. First of all,
Speaker 1: she's gorgeous, but I really because I really want to know,
Speaker 1: at what, at what moment, at what point is It's
Speaker 1: sort of like, okay, the optics looked a little crazy,
Speaker 1: but clearly both parties in the marriage moved on from
Speaker 1: the marriage clearly a while ago.
Speaker 4: Well, here's Carlos.
Speaker 3: I think we've all arrived at that point with our
Speaker 3: POV on this now, right, because we've seen so much
Speaker 3: play out after we've seen babies born. Simon and Porsche
Speaker 3: went on to get married. Now they've gotten DeVore, they're
Speaker 3: getting divorced. We saw, we've seen what happened. But as viewers,
Speaker 3: we were introduced to this situation at a point that
Speaker 3: took place after the breakdown of that relationship. Remember, in
Speaker 3: the real world, absolutely, as an adult, a grown ass man,
Speaker 3: I'm aware of the complexities of love and relationships. And
Speaker 3: things happen when they're supposed to and when they're not
Speaker 3: supposed to. Right, that's the reality of it, and the
Speaker 3: history of that relationship, in the state of that relationship
Speaker 3: does matter. But speaking through the lens of a viewer
Speaker 3: on this show, right we had we weren't privy to
Speaker 3: that context. We weren't prevy look coment just came up.
Speaker 3: We did not have that context.
Speaker 4: We didn't know. The story started for us with Hey, Porscha's.
Speaker 3: Now in a relationship with Simon, who was very married
Speaker 3: to this lady named Phallon, and that's how we were
Speaker 3: introduced to him. So that's where it began for us.
Speaker 3: Had that story been told and produced through the show,
Speaker 3: had we been introduced to Simon and Fallon's home. Fallon
Speaker 3: was a guest on the show. She really wasn't even
Speaker 3: a friend of the show. In season thirteen, she was
Speaker 3: simply a guest, so we never got a view into
Speaker 3: their relationship. We didn't know none of that shit. All
Speaker 3: we knew was that was her husband and now Portia
Speaker 3: was with him and posted a picture with Dennis and
Speaker 3: the damn picture with them. We were confused as fuck,
Speaker 3: And I don't think a lot of Now we know
Speaker 3: what happened, right, So now everybody that he has caught
Speaker 3: off on that. But that's what our experience was. We
Speaker 3: didn't get that. We didn't know that. All we knew
Speaker 3: was she was with Falen's husband, and we was like,
Speaker 3: what the hell is going on here?
Speaker 2: So as a journalist former journalist, there is a blessing
Speaker 2: and a curse that information comes to me all the time,
Speaker 2: like I know things. And I was like, how much
Speaker 2: you want to say before your hater. It wasn't just
Speaker 2: Porscha and Simon, okay, allegedly reading there was other people
Speaker 2: in the situation as well. So let's get into this
Speaker 2: real quick today. I'm already gonna be called the hater
Speaker 2: on the show. I think there was a bit of
Speaker 2: reverse engineering with that storyline. We see Fallon, we see Simon,
Speaker 2: she's married to him, and then invites Porscha over, and
Speaker 2: Porscha is clearly acting first of all, how she was
Speaker 2: acting little thirsty around him, and lo and behold, they've
Speaker 2: been messing around for a long time. Okay, that was shady.
Speaker 2: Then after the fact, when after they have a full
Speaker 2: on relationship, when Fallon gets pregnant by the assistant. It's well,
Speaker 2: she was cheating the whole time, was she Would you
Speaker 2: really go on a show Housewives with your cheating wife
Speaker 2: if you knew at the time she was cheating on
Speaker 2: you with the the help, No, you wouldn't. He didn't
Speaker 2: know that. That wasn't happening. When that film that scene
Speaker 2: when Porscha came to the house, that's bullshit. That is
Speaker 2: reverse engineering, like you know you get carness. Well, let
Speaker 2: me just act like I knew they was cheating on
Speaker 2: us for me first, so I can justify why I
Speaker 2: did that.
Speaker 4: And people ate it.
Speaker 2: Up because Porsche, I mean, Fallon did not have the platform.
Speaker 2: People don't really know her. They're more familiar with Porsche.
Speaker 2: They love her. She's got a very loyal fan base.
Speaker 2: So it was like, oh, Fallon, please, you're just a
Speaker 2: little dumb girl that screwed the help you fumble the bag. No,
Speaker 2: she left, she she got, She got cheated on, and
Speaker 2: then got with the man that was good looking. And
Speaker 2: I know it's not about looks, but who actually she
Speaker 2: felt cared for her heart more. I think Simon collects
Speaker 2: women like trophies. I really don't know if he has
Speaker 2: loved any of these women. I feel like he makes
Speaker 2: he he wants to be famous, and Porsche's even said that.
Speaker 2: I think he uses women he wants to be on
Speaker 2: reality TV. I think he's an attention hoard, and I
Speaker 2: think Simon thinks he's the bad bitch in the relationship.
Speaker 2: Fallon told me that he was pushing her to get
Speaker 2: on Housewives of Atlanta before they got on there, So
Speaker 2: he's been wanting to be on of reality so he's
Speaker 2: been wanting a peach And then was he do big
Speaker 2: Jess shar with Porsche, marries her for weddings, whatever, and
Speaker 2: then he used her. And I do feel bad a
Speaker 2: portion in that regard because I do think maybe she
Speaker 2: really did care for him and he was really like
Speaker 2: liking her but loving the attention. Because the way he
Speaker 2: carries on on social media is giving such bad bitch
Speaker 2: energy and influencer.
Speaker 4: It's really excessive. You can tell that some port for him.
Speaker 3: You can tell that's important for him, and all he
Speaker 3: wanted was the attention, which makes me think was that
Speaker 3: ship going on between Fallon and Jalen And maybe he
Speaker 3: did know and because they now had the opportunity to
Speaker 3: be on the show, fuck it, he let him go
Speaker 3: ahead and film because.
Speaker 4: He wanted to be on the ship.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I think that's plausible. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying we know. I just think that's I think
Speaker 3: both what you're saying and what I'm saying is possible.
Speaker 4: I think Simon and his intentions right, I.
Speaker 1: Think we're.
Speaker 2: Using Porsche or Fallon whoever, by any means.
Speaker 3: That there what Faer said, he do them both. I
Speaker 3: think I think it was both. He was thirsty. He
Speaker 3: wants to be on the television, bro. And that's why
Speaker 3: watching him was so exhausting for a nigga like me,
Speaker 3: because I could see straight through that shit and he's
Speaker 3: not I didn't sign up to watch him. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I'm so glad he's not on this
Speaker 3: season because I did want to see portschit.
Speaker 4: I never wanted to see him.
Speaker 3: I'm glad he's gone off the show, taking up space
Speaker 3: and bringing nothing but negative bullshit.
Speaker 4: Like I'm glad he's gone.
Speaker 2: So I'll just believe with the moret he is a
Speaker 2: thirst bucket because I went to his page one day
Speaker 2: and he was following me. How are you following the
Speaker 2: girl that be and your girl have had beef before.
Speaker 2: And then when I clocked his ass on TGIF and
Speaker 2: we started talking about it, he quickly unfollowed me, but
Speaker 2: I took a screenshot, Simon. You want to be You
Speaker 2: want attention from anyone you can. You want any kind
Speaker 2: of in roads to be on reality television. I told y'all,
Speaker 2: he got his money and it'll be gotten ways allegedly.
Speaker 2: And we had this huge corporation worth all this money.
Speaker 2: You rant and everything, and then you your office is
Speaker 2: a desk and a fax machine. Where it is the business?
Speaker 2: Where is it? Simon? Where is it? Where is it?
Speaker 4: Who is this hole? What can you say?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 4: Who is this? Who is this hole? I'm you know
Speaker 4: what's so funny? Random?
Speaker 3: Let's get up out all of that shit, right, Kenya
Speaker 3: to me. Kenya really thought that she was going to
Speaker 3: have an iconic moment with the whole the Meghan lyric
Speaker 3: repetition right saying that I had been that bitch, still
Speaker 3: that bitch in that bitch. She thought that was gonna
Speaker 3: be a big moment it fell. She thought that the
Speaker 3: boeing and paying dust was going to be a moment flop,
Speaker 3: but the hit her number one hit record, Okay of
Speaker 3: that whole album she presented us with was who is
Speaker 3: this hole? When I tell you that as a part
Speaker 3: of my vernacular now when things don't make no sense,
Speaker 3: who is this hole? It don't even have to be
Speaker 3: about a person. It can be about a noun in general,
Speaker 3: a person, a place, or a thing. All of those
Speaker 3: can be hole. Thank you, Kenya Moore. That's your line
Speaker 3: right there, that's your At least she did get a
Speaker 3: hit out of this season with who is This Whole?
Speaker 3: Because I can't stop saying it. I love who is
Speaker 3: this whole? That's my who is this? That's my name?
Speaker 2: I am, and I am the I am the moments.
Speaker 3: She was murdering her, oh yeah, she ate her up
Speaker 3: on that time.
Speaker 2: To battle verbally.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so hard to just sit here with
Speaker 1: a straight face with the two of you, and it
Speaker 1: has been very challenging anytime we talk. But more in
Speaker 1: this episode than okay.
Speaker 4: I see y'all next week.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had fun. I know it was a little ex
Speaker 2: spicy today. I don't apologize. I said what I said,
Speaker 2: and I meant.
Speaker 4: Everything you said.
Speaker 3: That's why you're in that square, so you can say
Speaker 3: what you got to say. We don't make no apologies
Speaker 3: for our commentary over here. We're smart and focused and funny,
Speaker 3: and if we're asked a question, we gonna mother fucking
Speaker 3: answer it the way we want to, and with our
Speaker 3: regard to anything other than than than being fair and honest.
Speaker 3: Beyond that, you ain't gotta like it, you know.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying. So there's that.
Speaker 2: I want to just shout out Erica, Cobby and watch
Speaker 2: our podcast accents.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm coming.
Speaker 2: We're gonna come to New York City. We'll all hang
Speaker 2: out and Carls, you gotta fly in and we're gonna
Speaker 2: all hang out.
Speaker 1: Cards please wat Wednesday.
Speaker 2: A little more well behaved over there than with you guys,
Speaker 2: I am, but are you okay? Well? Sometimes sometimes not,
Speaker 2: but we have great commentary.
Speaker 4: I like this murders ship. I'll take the murders over
Speaker 4: here with.
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