WEBVTT - RHOA Recap: A Waffle Lot of Drama

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King,

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<v Speaker 1>the King of Reality TV and one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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<v Speaker 1>years of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with

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<v Speaker 1>the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable

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<v Speaker 1>moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a jam pack show. We have to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the most recent episode of the Real Housewives of Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>As we all know, last week the legend the icon

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<v Speaker 1>beforeever more meant Kenya Moore is no longer on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into that, I want to do a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of I want to have a conversation about

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<v Speaker 1>some things that has been happening on so media leading

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<v Speaker 1>up to this past Sunday's premiere episode. So, as we

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<v Speaker 1>all know, Kenya Moore is onlong on the show that

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<v Speaker 1>never decided to not move forward with her their words

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<v Speaker 1>based on her behavior, Those were their words. Subsequently, brit

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<v Speaker 1>Edie did a press tour this week, and apparently Portia

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<v Speaker 1>did too, because Porsche has a YouTube channel, So make

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<v Speaker 1>sure Rain Josh support Porsche is at Porsche for the

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<v Speaker 1>number four Real R E A L. And Kenya Moore

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<v Speaker 1>also has a YouTube channel where supposedly tomorrow, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>she's dropping her first time speaking on the incident. What

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get into is did an interview I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, it's called Housewives Nightcap if I'm not mistaken,

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<v Speaker 1>And she shared that she really expected Kenya to apologize

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<v Speaker 1>to her and that's not what she received. Porsche or

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<v Speaker 1>her YouTube channel revealed that allegedly a current housewife who

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<v Speaker 1>was still on the show allegedly gave Kenya some photos

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<v Speaker 1>that she displayed on the poster board. Can you more?

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<v Speaker 1>Responded to Porsche and denied it, and but Porsche revealed

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<v Speaker 1>this on her now YouTube channel. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get into that first. How do you guys feel about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that allegedly somebody who is currently on the

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<v Speaker 1>show that is a housewife allegedly gave King of those photos.

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<v Speaker 1>If that is the case, does that change things for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Claudia ladies, first, give fuck about that, because they all

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<v Speaker 2>do it. They all do it. Poorsche, you do it too,

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<v Speaker 2>because I did a season with you. Okay, I had

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<v Speaker 2>to hire a private investigator after my car was broken

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<v Speaker 2>into and my laptop was stolen. Once again, it ain't

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<v Speaker 2>about me, but I'm just giving you context. They all

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<v Speaker 2>do this kind of stuff. It depending if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>like someone, you might slide someone some information. People do

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<v Speaker 2>that every all the time, every season. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>breaking news. This is not the gotcha moment you want

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<v Speaker 2>it to be. It's really not. They all do this

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. We also know that Porsche and and

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<v Speaker 2>and Drew don't like each other. They got their issue right,

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe she's trying to kind of throw herner the

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<v Speaker 2>bus because if you have to say who it is,

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't. Don't give us a bread comp just say

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<v Speaker 2>say it, girl, be about that life and just say it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's a big deal at all, because

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<v Speaker 2>they all do it. They slide people information depending on

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<v Speaker 2>who you're in allegiance with, and it's it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the gotcha moment that she wanted it to be.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think, Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with

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<v Speaker 3>Claudia on this one. I really don't give a shit either.

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<v Speaker 3>What what are we supposed to do with that information?

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<v Speaker 3>There is somebody who gave her didn't make sis sheep like,

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<v Speaker 3>so the fuck would I'm not excited about it. It

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<v Speaker 3>does not offer any additional insight nor context. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>a complete dud. It felt completely flat. So listen. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna offer commentary or do after show commentary and

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the show, have something to say. While I

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<v Speaker 3>do enjoy Porsche's bubbly personality and love looking at her

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful face, if she ain't talking about nothing, we're wasting

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<v Speaker 3>our time. So I'm not gonna continue to go over

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<v Speaker 3>to her YouTube channel and watch her eat and just

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<v Speaker 3>pretend to be aloof about certain details that I can

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much guarantee she's aware of and just not being

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<v Speaker 3>forthcoming about.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know, you know, get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll hope these young these ladies make all the YouTube

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<v Speaker 3>revenue in the world with their recaps. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>great that they do it. It reminds me of old

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<v Speaker 3>housewives when they used to write the weekly blogs on

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<v Speaker 3>Bravo dot com. But BravoTV dot com, whatever the website is,

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<v Speaker 3>it's basically just a new interpretation of that. So have

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<v Speaker 3>something to say. I do love that Porscha's YouTube channel

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<v Speaker 3>is called Don't Make Me a Hurt Show. It is

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<v Speaker 3>a title don't make Me called Porsche. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>was cute and funny for her to use that and

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<v Speaker 3>play on that. But you gotta be talking about some

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<v Speaker 3>darling because you're saying that there's a housewife who are

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<v Speaker 3>these blind items. It's just not doing it's not helping

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<v Speaker 3>us out as viewers. We don't care. I don't care,

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<v Speaker 3>and Claudia don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to add one thing. I also think she

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<v Speaker 2>loses credibility because she tried to start a little mess

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<v Speaker 2>with that. I know things about your husband than never

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<v Speaker 2>mind think that Angela about Charles Oakley and then and Porscha.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people think I hate Porscha from something from

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<v Speaker 2>ten years. I don't hate her, but I'm just honest.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't protect her because I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a friendship with I don't protect her. And yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>can be biased sometimes about people that I like, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know, of course we all do it. We all

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I tell you how to do it. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>give a fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we do it, we do it. I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any emotional attack attachment. So when you don't have an

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<v Speaker 2>emotional attachment, you could be very honest about how you

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<v Speaker 2>feel about something. You could just say it how it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like that thing about Charles Charles Oakly. I

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<v Speaker 2>did not think that was necessary, because I will say this,

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<v Speaker 2>I do like Porsche a lot more this season in

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<v Speaker 2>the when I was on it with her, I like

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<v Speaker 2>her more than I've ever seen her before. I did

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<v Speaker 2>like I did like the growth of her and Kenya

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<v Speaker 2>kind of passing things up. I loved that Porsche offered

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<v Speaker 2>to let Kenya be in her car, because like that

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<v Speaker 2>is such a I will give anyone credit that can

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<v Speaker 2>grow and evolve. I thought that was dope. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>her temper has not been as bad as was in

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<v Speaker 2>the past. The old Portia would already fought for people

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<v Speaker 2>by now and kick somebody in the pussy, And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's great that she would move on. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>giving prop I think she looks really cute. She's come

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<v Speaker 2>with her glam. I don't like the jealousy thing with Shamiyah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I you know, I gotta give her either. I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta give her the points where where she should get

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<v Speaker 2>the points. I do think she is still you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she she you know, it's a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>debt without the Simon storyline, but she's still you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the mix and stuff like that, and she is

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<v Speaker 2>when she when Porscha is fun, she is fun. She

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<v Speaker 2>is a fun girl. We hung up before, like before

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<v Speaker 2>all that shit. She is a fun girl. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the one we want to see, don't you You you're

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<v Speaker 2>too much of a reality show Vett Porscha. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to do these fake like hmm, I know something

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<v Speaker 2>that you don't know or I heard, and then not

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<v Speaker 2>deliver like you, that's like a rookie thing. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>something that's a veteran that you are. You got this

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<v Speaker 2>without that. Just be fun and cute like people like

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<v Speaker 2>that for you.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why I think we all love housewives, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>is because when the tough gets tough, it gets going.

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<v Speaker 1>But there always seems to be room for like some

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<v Speaker 1>levity and they're back and forth. It wasn't gross. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like call each other out their names. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a very nice, nasty back and forth. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>dash of shade, But it made me miss the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we're not going to see those two have those

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<v Speaker 1>moments on camera, because the moment they started bantering on

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<v Speaker 1>social media, I was like, this is why I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see the two of you back in reunited. There

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<v Speaker 1>has been conversations about whether or not Kenyamore should attend

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<v Speaker 1>the reunion. She did start her YouTube channel, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she's confessing thereby Dustin, you believe she should be at

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<v Speaker 1>the reunion.

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<v Speaker 4>She deserves to be at the reunion.

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<v Speaker 3>This has Kenya attending the reunion for season sixteen at

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<v Speaker 3>the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Her needing her the necessity

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<v Speaker 3>of her presence has nothing to do with whether you

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<v Speaker 3>like her or don't, whether you agree with her decision

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<v Speaker 3>to post those photographs and posters or not. She's a

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<v Speaker 3>part of the story of the season, and we were abruptly.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like our viewership was interrupted by her departure.

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<v Speaker 3>We never got to see what she had to say

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<v Speaker 3>on the show. My only thing is I don't agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand fuck agreeing with because it's not about

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<v Speaker 3>whether I agree with it or not. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 3>why she's doing that YouTube thing, calling it confessionals my way.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why her why she's choosing to speak

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<v Speaker 3>out in response to things that people have said. I

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<v Speaker 3>understand that she's upset about her departure and she felt

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<v Speaker 3>like she was done wrong, So I understand that part.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just feel like she's taking a complete wrong

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<v Speaker 3>approach because it's making her look bitter. It's making her

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<v Speaker 3>look as it she's not taking accountability for her choice

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<v Speaker 3>or decision to post those damn pictures and show those posters,

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<v Speaker 3>and it just does not leave a good impression on

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<v Speaker 3>her exit from her participation. From that view, I wish

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<v Speaker 3>that Kenya would just be quiet, okay, first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>and commodify what she has to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at what brit Edie did.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't hear nothing from brit Edie through her nose

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<v Speaker 3>until after everybody else had done their press run, everybody

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<v Speaker 3>else had offered context, everybody else had made posts online.

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<v Speaker 4>Now Britt is talking now.

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<v Speaker 3>The episodes have progressed to a point in the season

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<v Speaker 3>where her take or her say is something of interest now,

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<v Speaker 3>and so she's offering it to me. She's winning the

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<v Speaker 3>pr battle between her and Kenya right now, and that

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<v Speaker 3>ain't got nothing to do with what side you on.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as the shit on the show, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the way that it's being handled in the aftermath.

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<v Speaker 3>I am disappointed in the way Kenya Moore is handling

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<v Speaker 3>this because I feel like she deserves better.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems that she's doing that to me, that shows

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<v Speaker 2>me that she knows she's not gonna be at the reunion.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn, Claudia, you think so, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Because like if she knew, Kenya waited all the time

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<v Speaker 2>to tell us, for us to find out that brit

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<v Speaker 2>had a gun, right, and I know she I never

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<v Speaker 2>knew that about this gun thing. She's a patient person.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think she did the YouTube channel because she

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<v Speaker 2>knows she's not gonna be at the reunion. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>let me get ahead of this and just say what

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<v Speaker 2>I got to say. Because Kenya that we all know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd be like, Okay, I'm gonna shut the hell up

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna drop it on the reunion. She's not.

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<v Speaker 2>She probably knows she's not able to do that. My opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong, Carlos.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, I think this. I think when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to Kenya, I agree with Dustin in the sense of

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<v Speaker 1>I am pleasantly surprised and I'm being rid. When I

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<v Speaker 1>say this as a producer, I am pleasantly surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>brit Die decided not to say aatnything until the episode

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<v Speaker 1>aired and she was on her press run. I will

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<v Speaker 1>give her round of applause for having that much strength

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<v Speaker 1>to not crash out on social media. And I do

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<v Speaker 1>mean that. I do mean that she and Kenya arguably

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<v Speaker 1>have the biggest storyline in the history of that show.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that she had enough stability to say

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<v Speaker 1>I'll wait until I go on my New York press run,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give her props with that one thousand percent, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think she handled it well. But we also have

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<v Speaker 1>to remember though Brent also has professionals in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to hear Brent's up Brent Lord Jesus, you

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<v Speaker 1>get to hear BRIT's POV. You get to see Brent's

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<v Speaker 1>slice of life. You get to see Brent as a sister,

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<v Speaker 1>You get to see Brent as a friend. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Kenya more as somebody who has given her her blessed

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<v Speaker 1>but in tears to the show and not being able

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<v Speaker 1>to have a voice, you know, literally meeting an interview

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<v Speaker 1>on the show where she's able to give us some

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<v Speaker 1>context around the edges of the scenes. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to watch a show that you've been on for

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, ten plus years, I believe, and you're watching

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<v Speaker 1>a story be told without your point of view. That

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<v Speaker 1>is frustrating. I don't agree with a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>Kenya does. Me and her have that friendship and we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that. But I will say when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the way she's handling it as somebody you guys

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<v Speaker 1>know her too, but as somebody who knows her, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also surprised she hasn't fully crashed out. But Kenya that

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<v Speaker 1>I know, would have crashed out in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>would have been way more damaging. I think Kenya has

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<v Speaker 1>been very respectful when it comes to what she says

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<v Speaker 1>about the network. I don't think unless unless, unless you

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<v Speaker 1>guys disagree. I don't think she has said anything damaging

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<v Speaker 1>to them to where she can't go back from it. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen other people have that faith. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Kenya has has that has done that just yet or

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<v Speaker 1>or or will do that. I'm just saying that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think we have to look at a woman

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<v Speaker 1>who has spent her entire decade career or reality television

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<v Speaker 1>as the force multiplier, as the person who gives you

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<v Speaker 1>great shade, and now she's unable to do that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious what this YouTube channel will be. Maybe it's a

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<v Speaker 1>one and done thing Dustin't to where she says one

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<v Speaker 1>thing and she's out the door. She did post today

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<v Speaker 1>to have her fans some the questions. She's calling it

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<v Speaker 1>a key key with Kenya, So maybe it's something where

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing a Porsche's doing. Maybe she's eating food and

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<v Speaker 1>she's whatever the case may be. But I agree that

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to see her at the reunion. I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to see the story be finished to where

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<v Speaker 1>her and brit can face each other. And I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>Brit say that, yeah, I apologize, but I think and

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Bris. Credit to Bris credit, she did attend

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<v Speaker 1>the hair salon with Flowers with the intention of apologizing,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll give her that she had the intention of

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, so she at least had the attention. And

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see them both apologize to each

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<v Speaker 1>other face to face, versus they're both apologizing about it separately.

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<v Speaker 2>They could be at their reunion together. They're sitting way

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<v Speaker 2>apart from each other because after watching last night's episode,

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<v Speaker 2>I Brittany Britt is a total crash out. She's I

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<v Speaker 2>think she's a little unstable. The way she popped off

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<v Speaker 2>Angela and tripping, and she was like so ready to

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<v Speaker 2>buck up, and you see, it's not just like her

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<v Speaker 2>Kenyan thing, it's her Anyone thing. I think she has

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<v Speaker 2>a very highly inflated sense of self where everyone can

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she can say whatever anyone else and be

0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.480
<v Speaker 2>braddy and be obnoxious, but they can't dare question her.

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<v Speaker 2>All Angela did was ask her if she really was

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<v Speaker 2>fired or she lost her insurance license. And the way

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<v Speaker 2>she said, have you now you confused about what's been

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<v Speaker 2>going on? I thought that was like, you're just misdirecting

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<v Speaker 2>your anger she called, and the way she bucked up

0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.440
<v Speaker 2>it shows that she's been trying to have a moment

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<v Speaker 2>from the beginning, and I do. I I'm sorry. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like her now on the show. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>her personally in real life. So before you get all

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<v Speaker 2>panties and a bunch, Britt, I don't like you on

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<v Speaker 2>the show. I think you bring very much ghetto energy.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't take your very nasally sounding knows, the way

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<v Speaker 2>you talk it's just like, whoever did that? Please open

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<v Speaker 2>up those nasal passages. It's too much like it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>how does your your husband's a saint? I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>you anymore the way you bucked up. How we are

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<v Speaker 2>protecting Angela Oakley and with all costs by all means. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Angela didn't even ask me anything that was negative or mean.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, I'm a broker too, like how does that happen?

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<v Speaker 2>And I did my research, well, a little bit of research.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a LinkedIn page for Britt in her company that

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<v Speaker 2>she was doing her insurance stuff with Right, and I

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<v Speaker 2>contacted a real estate agent as and also someone that

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<v Speaker 2>is in the mortgage brokerage business brit eating her. According

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<v Speaker 2>to her LinkedIn page, she was with all State full

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<v Speaker 2>time and that was from January of twenty twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>to April of twenty twenty three, three years and four months.

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<v Speaker 2>So it says that she's been done doing it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if she lost her license from this

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<v Speaker 2>incident or she just I don't know. And I also

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<v Speaker 2>talked to someone that said I asked, I said, so

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<v Speaker 2>can you lose your license for? Is there like clauses

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<v Speaker 2>for personal behavior and all that kind of stuff, like

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<v Speaker 2>what do they call those morality clause And they said,

0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.760
<v Speaker 2>my friend that is was my loan said no, there

0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.960
<v Speaker 2>are strippers that do all kinds of OnlyFans, all that

0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff, that have these licenses that they don't

0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.680
<v Speaker 2>lose their jobs. So that is bullshit. They said she

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<v Speaker 2>would lose her license for financial crimes, fraud, things of

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<v Speaker 2>that matter, not if and think how fast it's happened, right,

0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.639
<v Speaker 2>we are all just seeing the episode. Now, this happened

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<v Speaker 2>when it happened. So you mean to tell me between

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<v Speaker 2>that the Kenny Moore haircare event and then what a

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<v Speaker 2>month later your company knew about this big scandal that

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<v Speaker 2>was at a private event and you lost your license.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's playing the victim card extra extra, extra

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<v Speaker 2>hard now like she sees an opening she try to

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<v Speaker 2>come for the queen in her mind. That didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>pan out the way she thought. She got read down

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<v Speaker 2>and made to look like erratic. So now let me

0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:55.960
<v Speaker 2>play this victim card thing. And did you see how

0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:57.359
<v Speaker 2>her mother was looking at it when she was telling

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<v Speaker 2>her story. Her mother was looking like then at the end,

0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:02.800
<v Speaker 2>she realized, oh I'm on TV. Let me Yeah, that's

0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:05.000
<v Speaker 2>girl because you're pretty, and you know they hate on

0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:06.840
<v Speaker 2>you because you're pretty girl. But I look at her

0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.359
<v Speaker 2>mother's face, go back. Her mother was like, here we

0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:14.000
<v Speaker 2>go again. That's what I got. That's what I got

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<v Speaker 2>from that.

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<v Speaker 3>But to be fair, they were talking about pictures with

0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.600
<v Speaker 3>her sucking. So I think anybody that was talking to

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<v Speaker 3>their daughter about somebody showing pictures of them sucking had

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<v Speaker 3>that face.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. I had the face and

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even see her sucking.

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<v Speaker 3>But I personally think that bridd definitely approached that garden

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<v Speaker 3>table Kelly's event with a clear and apparent chip on

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<v Speaker 3>her shoulder. She was absolutely defensive and she was looking

0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:47.040
<v Speaker 3>for something to defend in that moment. I also though,

0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:52.520
<v Speaker 3>right this week's episode, we saw way more of Bridg's POV.

0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.800
<v Speaker 3>We heard way more of her perspective on what happened,

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<v Speaker 3>what went down.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, just hearing her, seeing her discussed that

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<v Speaker 3>situation with her husband, seeing her discuss that situation with

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<v Speaker 3>her mother, it humanized her for me as a viewer, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And I was just very aware of like the humiliation

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<v Speaker 3>piece of it, all right, And I'm like Damn, this

0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.159
<v Speaker 3>is really okay now, I see Because initially, as this

0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.639
<v Speaker 3>was going on and being talked about and people were

0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.719
<v Speaker 3>having these shock reactions to this incident, I was thinking,

0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:25.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, this is a terrible thing that took place.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just I hadn't seen brit talk about it.

0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:30.760
<v Speaker 3>I hadn't seen Brit talk to her husband about it,

0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:32.800
<v Speaker 3>talk to her mother about it. So once we were

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<v Speaker 3>fortunate enough to kind of get that really personal moment

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<v Speaker 3>on camera.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt for her. I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt for her in a different way than I

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<v Speaker 3>did when I watched the shit on TV last week.

0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.600
<v Speaker 3>I felt for her differently than I did when I

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<v Speaker 3>watched her and postings online about it when it's initially

0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.439
<v Speaker 3>made news that something happened and Kenya had been released

0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.760
<v Speaker 3>from filming. I don't know, it just humanized her. I

0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:57.879
<v Speaker 3>felt for her last night when I watched that show.

0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.359
<v Speaker 3>That don't mean that I didn't think she was she

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<v Speaker 3>had a nasty attitude at that garden table lunching. That

0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.040
<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean that I don't think that she was completely

0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:10.399
<v Speaker 3>rude and nasty and aggressive to Angela Oakley, who I

0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.880
<v Speaker 3>love on the show. That doesn't mean that I don't

0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.200
<v Speaker 3>think that she was clearly and definitely like I agree

0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:19.520
<v Speaker 3>with you, Claudia, she was gunning for Kenya, who she

0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:20.240
<v Speaker 3>deemed a.

0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:21.239
<v Speaker 4>Big dog, you know.

0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.840
<v Speaker 3>And I think Brittany kind of all britt excuse me,

0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.840
<v Speaker 3>kind of may have I'm assuming that she always saw

0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.080
<v Speaker 3>like a villainous role for herself on this show. She

0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.440
<v Speaker 3>exudes that sort of energy, a pretty villain like Kenya.

0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.800
<v Speaker 3>It would have been nice to see Kenya and britt

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<v Speaker 3>be mean girls and run the show together in a

0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:42.320
<v Speaker 3>nasty way. Sorry, I know it's probably toxic to say that,

0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:44.520
<v Speaker 3>but it would have been nice to see Kenya have

0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.119
<v Speaker 3>a partner in crime on this show, like what we

0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.320
<v Speaker 3>thought her and LaToya Forever were gonna be in season thirteen.

0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:54.120
<v Speaker 3>We would have had two beautiful women with sharp tongues

0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.720
<v Speaker 3>and unique tones of voice who could have really been

0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.240
<v Speaker 3>interesting on this show together, but we got robbed of that.

0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:03.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm a person who thinks Kenya belongs on the show.

0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:08.720
<v Speaker 3>I just fell for brit in this last episode. I did, Carl, did.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all catch the one thing? And it's one thing when

0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.040
<v Speaker 2>you're you know, you made a sex tape with your

0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.399
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend and exposers, that's a horrible thing, and shame on

0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.920
<v Speaker 2>that man if he put that out there, right, that's disgusting. Right,

0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.919
<v Speaker 2>I understand a woman that feels like, damn, why are

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:26.240
<v Speaker 2>you gonna put me out there like that? That can

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 2>happen to anyone who's not a virgin, right. But she

0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:33.000
<v Speaker 2>also slipped something by us real quickly, a throwaway that

0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:36.040
<v Speaker 2>we're not giving any attention to. Yeah, so I was

0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:39.320
<v Speaker 2>giving the web I was a webcam girl. If you're

0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:43.040
<v Speaker 2>a webcam girl, naked pitches of you on the internet

0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:46.440
<v Speaker 2>are not humiliating. That's how you got your money. And

0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I think we have to talk about that just a

0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:52.040
<v Speaker 2>little bit, because if you're a webcam girl, you take requests.

0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.760
<v Speaker 2>What these men want you to do? Hey, put five dollars?

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Can you play with your pussy a little bit? Can

0:21:57.800 --> 0:21:59.159
<v Speaker 2>you see it? Can you spread it open? Ca I

0:21:59.240 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 2>see a titty?

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Personally, it doesn't. I'm not buying that this was so humiliated.

0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe on Housewives with your rebrand now that you're married,

0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:09.680
<v Speaker 2>you might be like, well, that's in my past, but

0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 2>like she's really putting ten on twenty now. Not to

0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:14.679
<v Speaker 2>say you can't change, you can, but think of the

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 2>psychology of some on the video of her and the

0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.560
<v Speaker 2>picture of her with a boyfriend. That's fole. Okay, let

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:23.520
<v Speaker 2>me be very clear. I'm very supportive of any woman

0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 2>that has happened to you, because that's horrible. But the

0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:31.240
<v Speaker 2>webcam girl, that's almost where I'm like, hmm, you had

0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:34.200
<v Speaker 2>your nick stuff on the internet. I'm sorry, God, Carlos,

0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:37.840
<v Speaker 2>please finish. No, I've been shady enough. They're gonna think

0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I hate her now too.

0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:43.359
<v Speaker 1>No, it's fine, No, I will say this. Okay, I

0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:49.159
<v Speaker 1>want to go back with Dustin and then go with you, Claudia.

0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:55.159
<v Speaker 1>I agree with Dustin. Listen, listen, listen. Regardless of what

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 1>your past is, and we've all had a pass right,

0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants could be reminded of something that you may

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 1>have gotten over and gotten through. I did feel obviously,

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for her. It's humiliating for that to

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:15.399
<v Speaker 1>be shown with with with with your peers, especially as

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to get to know these new women on

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 1>the show. And then it's at an event, right, so

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 1>I understand the tears from being humiliated, because yes, I

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:28.840
<v Speaker 1>may have done that in my past. However, nobody should

0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 1>ever be nobody she had to be judged by things

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 1>they've done in their past. We've all had a pass

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So I did I agree with us. I felt bad

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:40.879
<v Speaker 1>with her there. I will say this though, I clocked

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 1>the webcam signed thank you for breaking down the definition

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 1>of it, because as a little gay boy Detrent, Michigan,

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't looking at the webcam, you know, saying I

0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>was watching Blurt Underwood a law and order child.

0:23:55.440 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 3>No, who is the way? As you know what I'm

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:02.720
<v Speaker 3>talking about. I can't think of his name. You're on

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 3>law order or something. Now we'll go ahead.

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh let's latch la law please. I digress. Anyways, moving on, child,

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>we are just getting started. This is reality with the King,

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:29.399
<v Speaker 1>and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I also clopped. I also clopped the cavalier word teenager.

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>And I want to stop there because I'm going to

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to stop there because I want to add

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 1>to what Party was saying. Teenager The definition of as

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 1>a journalist right means thirteen through nineteen right. I my opinion,

0:24:55.359 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I felt the insertion of teenager a lot of room

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>for in u windows and for me, I felt that

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>that could be seen as dangerous because I feel like

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I applaud her for admitting to the webcampaign. Right, I would,

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 1>And maybe she doesn't remember the exact age, but I

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:23.919
<v Speaker 1>would have. I would have preferred if she could have

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>put an age to it. I was this teen, I

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>was that teen. I think saying teenager leads a lot

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>to the imagination, and I just think that's dangerous based

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>on some things that we have been hearing that she

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.919
<v Speaker 1>possibly could have been under age. We just don't know,

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.640
<v Speaker 1>so I would have life for her to say that.

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I've clocked with her mother is this,

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I listen. I would have preferred for Brent, and maybe

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 1>it's happening in future episodes. I don't know. I personally

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>would have preferred for Brett and her mother to talk

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>about why a teenage girl with a mom is in

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>that position. I was really looking forward to a conversation

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 1>of I felt abandoned, Mom, you weren't there for me,

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you know. I felt the focus of the conversation wasn't

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>enough for us to really get to know brit on

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>a deeper level. I'm gonna say this and I'm not

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna take it back. I don't want to hear about

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Kenya now that she's not there anymore. I'm hoping, I'm

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>hoping this is the last episode where the focus is

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 1>on Kenya. I understand talking to your husband about Kenya

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 1>got it good. I understand talking to Kelly Vou Kenya

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>got it good. That conversation with your mom, I felt

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>there was a repeat of what I saw with the

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:58.159
<v Speaker 1>husband and when I saw with Kelly, and I wanted

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Britt to have a deep conversation about why a teenage

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:05.199
<v Speaker 1>girl is in that position the first place, so that

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>we could shed light on the on the life choices

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>that girl had to make and while her mother is

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 1>there with her. So I felt like Brit missed the

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>mark in terms of really going going deeper with letting

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>us know who you are because I feel bad for you.

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I know you feel humiliated all those things. But it's

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the people on social media, which is

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>surprising to me, if I'm being honest, they're not really

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>they're they're there are a lot of them are team Kenya,

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 1>and I'll just be honest, I am. I am shocked

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 1>by the people who aren't really feeling BRIT's remorse.

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:53.880
<v Speaker 2>And to be clear, we got we have to reiterate it.

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 2>We're not we're not approving condoning what Kenya Moore did

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't good. It was actually career suicide for her participation.

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 2>It was stupid and we and yet not cut you off.

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 1>All three of us for the past three weeks have

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>said she was wrong. Yeah, so stop right.

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 2>They want to They want to say that we're making

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 2>excuses for her. No, we said it was wrong, it

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 2>was stupid. But when you see it play out with

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing, how it led up to that, I get.

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes people say you can't hurt someone and

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 2>judge how they respond, however the right. But we pick

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 2>and choose if we like the person, right, we like

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 2>the person you know, hey, you can't. We gotta have

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 2>we gotta be like I don't know if I was

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Kenya and a girl talked about a gun, whether she

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 2>had it on her or didn't you talking that big

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 2>talk gun talk, I'm taking you out and I'll probably

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 2>do some some crafts off ship that might not really

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 2>be seen as morally correct. I totally understand that. Is

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>it right?

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 2>But is the thing right that caused you to do it?

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 2>It's not right? No, But if you think about human

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 2>emotions and how you would really be everyone that's watching

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 2>the show. Let someone say that and then you expect

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 2>them one week later or whatever it was, to be

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 2>kumbaya and accept some flowers. Bitch, fuck you, fuck you

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>and your flowers. It's not gonna take you showing up

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 2>at my event because you know you had to be

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 2>there because you were shooting a show for me to say, Okay,

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>that's something you have to massage and like, you know,

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 2>really work on that. And you knew you weren't going

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>to get that. You knew you had. You've watched Real

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:29.959
<v Speaker 2>housewse of Atlanta, you're a fan. You had to know

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>that that was never gonna go over. It was gonna

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.959
<v Speaker 2>give you another big poping moment. And that's that. Like,

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 2>let's let's call it what it is. It's a TV show, okay,

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 2>And you know that that was some fake as a policy. Shit,

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I felt like it was fake.

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 3>It is a TV show, which is exactly why Kenya

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 3>should have been more astute as a veteran member of

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 3>this cast than to react to what she was uncomfortable,

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 3>uncomfortable with, or felt made to feel unsafe by by

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 3>doing something stupid. Like what she did, which essentially robbed

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 3>herself of the opportunity to be on the cast. That

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 3>was dumb, and it was it was dumb on a

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 3>it was dumb on a professional level. From that lens.

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 3>And then let's take it to the street, right, what

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 3>is this? What is the impact fact of you doing?

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 3>What does this do to like? How do you win

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 3>by doing this? I personally just don't see how the win.

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't see how you can be scared for your

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 3>life because if you say somebody throwing you with a gun,

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 3>and then in your mind you say, yeah, I know

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 3>how to get her ass. I'm gonna show them pictures

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 3>of her sucking to Dick. That's gonna get her. I

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 3>just don't see the correlation. I don't see I just

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 3>it just doesn't make sense for me either way. And

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 3>I hated to see Kenya go out like that because again,

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.719
<v Speaker 3>I feel like she should be a part of this cast.

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 3>So for me, it's just I'm just over the whole situation,

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 3>and I'm with Carlos actually on this. I don't want

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 3>to hear no more about Kenya. We can talk about

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 3>the fallout in the way it's impacted the group dynamics

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 3>and the relationships amongst the group, within the group that

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 3>are remaining. But I don't want to hear about the

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Kenya piece of it all anymore. If we're gonna keep

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 3>talking about Kenya, bring her back to filming and let

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 3>her be here to speak for herself. If not, let's

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 3>just move on from that piece of the story.

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>So, because if that's all you got for the season

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 2>to talk about, woe was me?

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 4>I was as he was gone.

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Were you were a teenager at nineteen or were you underage?

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 2>It was still bad but one illegal Oh yeah.

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 3>To that piece too, the underage piece, Carlos, You're right,

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 3>that's it's very it is. It is a very sensitive

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 3>allegation to make towards someone that they did anything sexual

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 3>in connection to somebody being underage.

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 4>Right, you can't play with.

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 3>That, So that grace speak that she used with that,

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 3>and that that umbrella term of teenager. You're right, you

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 3>gotta be specific when you're talking about legal shit like that.

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 3>You can't make those allegations because if Kenya didn't do that,

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 3>that's a terrible thing to say that she did. So

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 3>I agree with that that that was what they call

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 3>that nasty work using the word teenager, right, I think

0:31:58.720 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 3>she knew.

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 2>What she was doing when she did that. Like we

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 2>know what the word teenager implies, but like you could

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 2>be nineteen and like there's one thing, it's either way.

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>It was impoor taste, it was horrible taste, it was stupid,

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 2>it was wrong, was bad. We know that. But you know, oh,

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 2>I was just a teenager. And when Portia said that too,

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 2>like y'all putting ten on twenty right now? If she

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 2>was nineteen, right, Like you know what you're trying to

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 2>do again, The victim storyline for this entire season is

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna get old because now Keny's not there anymore. What

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 2>else you got for us after this? What else do

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>you have after this? And I just feel like she's

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 2>putting ten on twenty And I hate that Kenya made

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:35.719
<v Speaker 2>this rookie mistake that allowed this girl to play this

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 2>role and be the victim now over and over over,

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 2>And she was a victim that night. Okay, But do

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 2>you think for a moment that Bravo would even air

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 2>any parts of that scene if they knew or they

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 2>and they will find out right if in those pictures

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 2>that girl was actually underage? Absolutely not. Bravo was too

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 2>smart for that then not gonna let that happen. If

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 2>that was in fact a picture of Britain when she

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 2>was sixteen, I think the age of consent in Georgia's seventeen.

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 2>I think if she was, if she was like sixteen

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 2>in those pictures, we would have never seen the scene. Ever.

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.959
<v Speaker 2>Braba would have shut that shit down. In my opinion,

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we'd ever even know about it. They

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>would have been like, nah, none of this stuff is good.

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 2>They could not, They couldn't, they would be They would

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>not be a part of that. I think, I don't know.

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Angela Uakley for piping that scene up

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 3>though at the table, because Angela was asking the motherfucking

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 3>questions that she was asking the praguntas that were on

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 3>the piece, so okay for our Spanish speaking viewership, she

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 3>was asking the right motherfucking questions that Angela said, Okay,

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 3>so what you know? She said, yeah, but you can't

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 3>start there. She said, you're not acknowledging the part you

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 3>played and getting it to this point she was nailing

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.479
<v Speaker 3>Bridge's ass to the wall, and brit was not able

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 3>to take that and receive that at the moment, but

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 3>she started it by bringing that negative energy. What is

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 3>she asking, are you slow or whatever she said to her,

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 3>she was naw.

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 3>So I like Anna. Plus y'all know, I don't care.

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 3>I'd be biased sometimes. I like Angela. I've been enjoying

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 3>the hell out of her this season. I like Ane Oakley.

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 3>I like what she's bringing to this show. So, you know,

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 3>I thought that was of note that britt was really

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 3>the one responsible for being making it nasty at the table.

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 4>Like that, Carls.

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 2>I like what you said earlier about like, I know

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I've been giving Brittany a britt a hard time tonight,

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 2>and I acknowledge that, and I receive that, and I

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 2>will stand by that I have been. But like I

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 2>too think that I like complex characters on shows where

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 2>they see one thing about them and then your mind

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 2>is able to be changed because they are vulnerable in

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 2>the scene, and they give us if she would have

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 2>said something about you know, why she was in that position,

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 2>why she felt abandoned, why she felt she had to

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:39.799
<v Speaker 2>do that, why that was the only option that could

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>have changed our perception or give us a little bit

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 2>more understanding. I like to know the why. You know,

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 2>no one just goes and becomes a webcam girl just

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 2>because it's fun. There's a story behind that, and honest

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>people like it.

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 4>Some people just want to be free, they want to

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.399
<v Speaker 4>show what they got. Yes, that's true.

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, the thing is, it's one of

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>those things where I'm gonna say this. For example, when

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>we did season I believe it was season eight of

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 1>The Real Housewives Atlanta, Kenya Moore was on that show

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 1>seasons five, six, seven, so three for three seasons. Prior

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>to season eight, long story short, Kenya was seen as

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>like this villain, right, Oh my gosh, there's a villain.

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Why he mean? Da da da da da da da da.

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 1>We had an opportunity to go to Detroit, Michigan, and

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I fought for that scene because I said, I, in

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>order for the world to understand Kenya, you have to

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>go backwards and understand the girl that she was so

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>long story short, and this was all Kenya's doing, and

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that's why Kenya was a joy to work with. When

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>we went to Detroit, Kenya knocked on her mother's door

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and I got chills and Clauda. You may not remember

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>this allegedly was her mother. I don't know because we

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>weren't inside the house. Kenya heard the door lock and

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 1>heard a woman's voice allegedly could have been her mother.

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, say don't answer the door, and Kenya

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>was crying out for her mother, and in that very moment,

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 1>this is a true story. In that very moment, me,

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the producers, everybody involved said we now get it, we

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 1>now understand it now making excuses for Kenya in terms

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>of the adult woman she is. However, when you learn

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:33.280
<v Speaker 1>something about who a young girl was in their youth

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 1>it I promise you will find things that make sense

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>in terms of who they are as an adult. I

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>have people to this day stop me and say that

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:46.399
<v Speaker 1>scene alone made me see Kenya in a very different light.

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I was saying about the scene with

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Brett and her mother. I felt like Brent was on

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>this of Kenya campaign train and I listen, and I

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>get it because you were emotional at the time. But

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I still feel like, unfortunately I don't know her. I

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know her, I don't know her. Who I do know, Kelly,

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I love you, but I got a confession to make.

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Angela is not my number one favorite ed but Kelly Kelly,

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I still love you though. But Kelly, I gotta be honest.

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I took this spot at least this week. Angela Oakley,

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I know who she is I as a wife, I

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>know who she is as a mother. I know who

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>she is as a friend. I know who she is

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>as a person. The way she clocked Britney britt ed,

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry and said to her, now wait a minute,

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>like when she said read the motherfucking room and she said,

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:48.240
<v Speaker 1>now wait a minute, like what we're doing here, Tila

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>is superb. Angela should have been on the show in

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 1>the days of Menie Kimi Cheat because I would have

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 1>loved to see how she would have the dynamics with

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>those with those ogs. I think, Angela, but this is

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the thing. Angela wasn't there to be on someone's side,

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>and I think, look this, and this is not a

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 1>bad thing. Everybody deserves a friend like Kelly hell. I

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>want to friend like Kelly.

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Kelly Kelly, I know you watch it. I got your message.

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:18.800
<v Speaker 1>She watches.

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 2>She watches because we have a mutual friend and I

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 2>don't reveal my sources, but she told my friend that

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 2>she heard me say some really nice things, all saying

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.280
<v Speaker 2>nice things about her, and she liked it. She said that,

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 2>so shout out to Kelly.

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 4>We spoked with you. Kelly. We like you on the show.

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Do your thing, Kelly. We don't hang with our mutual friend.

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:39.759
<v Speaker 2>When I come to Atlanta, I'll be there on my play.

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to invite you to play on May fifteen

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:43.879
<v Speaker 2>and sixteen. I think it is in Atlanta something like that.

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll have my people with touching you.

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes at the gag is all the housewives watching? But anyway,

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>can I.

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Just say something real quick, Carlos, I know that I am.

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm hard on certain people, and people have made me

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 2>keenly aware. I know that, and people say, defend Kenya.

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 2>It's when you're brave enough. And I will do this

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:12.800
<v Speaker 2>with anyone that is brave enough to explain their villain

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 2>arc you when you watch a scary movie, I mean

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:18.359
<v Speaker 2>a movie where there's a villain and then you go

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 2>back like I used to think the witch in Sleep

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 2>and Beauty was so evil, and then Malipisen came out

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:26.840
<v Speaker 2>and you got her side, the story of why she

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 2>is the way she is.

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:29.919
<v Speaker 4>The origin story, origin story.

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, brit Portie, Nini, Phedra Kenya, all of you that

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:41.760
<v Speaker 2>when you when you decide to be vulnerable and share

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 2>what is the thing that made you the way you are,

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 2>that the things that we don't like or whatever, you

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 2>will get the other half of the people that don't

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 2>write like you like that to love you and we

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>could understand why you do the things to do. That's

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 2>you know. I think it's a good idea to if

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 2>you feel confident enough to share things about you that

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 2>may be hard in your heart or made you come

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 2>off cold or whatever, it makes you more human and

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 2>then we can relate to you and then we won't

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 2>judge you based on this half a story you're giving us.

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 2>We got the full picture. And I think that will

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.720
<v Speaker 2>help every reality star when you can say what really

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 2>is an issue? That's why I love people like Memi Fouls.

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:26.839
<v Speaker 2>She'll tell you abandonment issues, abuse, father wasn't there, mother

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 2>wasn't there, bad choices and relationships. And that's why I

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 2>can defend someone like that because I understand why it's

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the why. Once we know your why, we won't judge.

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Like we can say we don't judge, we all judge. Okay,

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 2>we all judge. We all judge, Okay, whether it's our

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 2>group text or on whatever. We know your why, we

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 2>can understand you better. And I promise you the criticism

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.919
<v Speaker 2>won't be as harsh because we get it, that's all.

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and I agree. I want to shift gears

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a bit and get into the scene that Porsche has

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:07.240
<v Speaker 1>at with Shamiah, Drew and Kelly. In this scene, Porsche

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>is revealing to the girls of a conversation that she

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>had with her daughter. In this In this conversation you

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:20.240
<v Speaker 1>have the girls, she's discussing that her divorce was Simon

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:27.240
<v Speaker 1>and how her daughter PJ asked, whereas Simon who he called?

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Who she calls is if Papa got on something of

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>those one of those things popap thing, yeah, and Porscha say,

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 1>he's at work, and then Polar said he's coming back.

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:43.800
<v Speaker 1>And then Porscha teared up, and Porsch said, because of that,

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>she she did send Simon a text message that he

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>left on read literally because he has a he has

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the reader receipts some child. So she felt in that

0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 1>moment this is done, and she she she said out

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:02.480
<v Speaker 1>her own mouth, he doesn't love him anymore. What did

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 1>you two make of that scene, did you feel like

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you now got a chance to really see a little

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>bit more of what was going on in their relationship.

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 2>On one hand, I was actually surprised that she got

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 2>emotional over Simon because I never thought that she really

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 2>loved him like that. I thought it was just like

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 2>a money grab, So that was shocking to me. I

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, wow, I didn't know that things that she

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 2>really liked him. But then you do see some videos

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 2>of online where they're dancing, they look at they're having

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 2>a good time. Again, I would like to know her

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:33.240
<v Speaker 2>origin story because you want to give grace to people.

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:34.839
<v Speaker 2>You want to be like, oh, I feel bad for her.

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Then you also think, well, damn, you took someone else's

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 2>d it and you was kind of like flaunting it

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 2>all over social media and didn't think about how you

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 2>broke someone else's heart. But even with that being said,

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:47.359
<v Speaker 2>that she did do that, Okay, you can still have

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 2>empathy for someone that's going through something. That's an awful

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 2>thing that Simon's doing to come into someone's life, present

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:59.360
<v Speaker 2>yourself as this Prince Charming minus the looks, and sorry,

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:03.839
<v Speaker 2>it's giving mom, I canna say it was giving y'all

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 2>know who what old famous female actors. He looks like

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Florida Evans. Okay, but for a man, it's not good.

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 2>So anyways, come into someone's life, bond with someone's child,

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 2>marry them, and give that child a sense of stability,

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 2>like we're a family together. And then when it doesn't

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 2>work out with a mom, and then she reaches out

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 2>to you and you ignore. That's fucked up of you, Simon.

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:25.839
<v Speaker 2>You should be ashamed of yourself, but you're not because

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 2>you're a scammer. I told y'all long time ago he

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 2>wasn't who he said he was, but y'all didn't want

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 2>to believe you. I thought was a hater. I told

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.800
<v Speaker 2>y'all my sources said he got rich from a scam.

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:38.439
<v Speaker 2>He got intercepted some money that wired. We'll get into

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 2>that another time, but I'm allegedly, of course, I heard allegedly.

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 2>That's that's awful, Simon. No matter what issues you have

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 2>with Portia, you did come into her life and bond

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 2>with that child, and you should still be the bigger

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.359
<v Speaker 2>person who you are, the bigger person, the wider person.

0:43:56.360 --> 0:44:00.160
<v Speaker 2>You should still go and respond to text about that

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 2>little girl. That is bonding with that's fucked up, and

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I felt for Porscha on and that I thought that

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 2>was really jocked up.

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 4>I felt for Porsche too.

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:13.280
<v Speaker 3>I think that Porsche is aware that showing emotionally vulnerable

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 3>moments like that will make people empathetic to the breakdown

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 3>of her relationship with Simon, because most people really didn't

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 3>give it damn what she had to say. They felt

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 3>like we were introduced to Simon with another woman, and

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 3>we were introduced to them that couple through Porsche, and

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:31.800
<v Speaker 3>people then saw Porsha go on to being a very

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 3>public marriage with him. In spite of all of that,

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 3>we went on to see Porscha speak about how the

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.879
<v Speaker 3>relationship between Fallon and Simon was not what we thought

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 3>it was, and she gave us all sorts of contexts

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:46.800
<v Speaker 3>as to why she was confident in her choice to

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 3>move forward in a relationship with Simon right, But a

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 3>lot of people never reconciled that as viewers. They always

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 3>felt that she was being deceitful in her pursuit of him,

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:59.399
<v Speaker 3>and that there was absolutely an overlap in those relationships.

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 3>Ending is not my place to say, is I don't

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:05.040
<v Speaker 3>know you end up in love however, you end up

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 3>getting the right. But when it comes to people feeling

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 3>for Porsche in the breakdown of that marriage, conversations like

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:15.839
<v Speaker 3>the ones she had on Shemia's patio with the other

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:20.240
<v Speaker 3>ladies will aid her. They will help her in being likable,

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 3>help her in people understanding where she's coming from. But

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 3>there will still people that still there will still be people,

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 3>excuse me, that won't buy it.

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 4>There will still people that.

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 3>There will still be people that feel like Porscha was

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:34.840
<v Speaker 3>absolutely aware of what she was doing having that conversation

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:37.760
<v Speaker 3>on camera. There will be people who feel like Porscha

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 3>was putting on for the cameras, just like a lot

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:42.800
<v Speaker 3>of people thought Britt was when she went to Shemia's

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 3>house the day after she made the gun comment and

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 3>she started doing all that damage control when they were

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 3>sitting in that living room and she was saying, I

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 3>didn't mean that, I didn't have that all of that.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 3>So was it performative? Maybe? But who knows. All we

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.240
<v Speaker 3>know is that we're not looking at Simon. We're grateful

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 3>for that, not because of how it looks, but because

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:03.359
<v Speaker 3>he's an exhausting person to watch on camera, because he's

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 3>so thirsty to be there. That's why we have to

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 3>deal with what we had previously, to deal with social

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:12.320
<v Speaker 3>media posts from him. We were inundated with his feelings

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 3>on everything. When this show is called The Real Housewives

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.359
<v Speaker 3>of Atlanta, not the Real Couples of Atlanta, we don't

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 3>really give a fuck what Simon got to say, you know,

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 3>but he wanted us to. And I think that that's

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 3>why it's so refreshing to watch the show in his absence.

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 3>So what was Porscha being fake? We don't know. Maybe

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:32.919
<v Speaker 3>she wasn't. Either way it goes. I hope she gets

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:34.240
<v Speaker 3>the healing that she needs.

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 4>I just put it like that.

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you you to this. When Porscha

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 1>and Simon got together, she shared the story already in

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.839
<v Speaker 1>terms of what happened, But I want to know if

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 1>this makes a difference at all. Balan became pregnant months

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 1>after she revealed she was pregnant. Me say that Balan

0:46:57.480 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 1>revealed she was pregnant months after her as Simon were

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:04.760
<v Speaker 1>separated by another man. And this man name is Jayleen Claudia.

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Am I mistaken that was she? In the season of

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:10.399
<v Speaker 1>the Couples showed bitch different each one.

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I recommended them for that and she got my agent.

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:14.319
<v Speaker 2>She was the next year.

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, okay. So there were some allegations of cheating,

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that faling was cheating on assignment with Jalen. That's that's

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 1>that's what Simon said, Chid right when she became pregnant

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 1>by this other man after being separated. Does that make

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:39.800
<v Speaker 1>a difference in terms of people thinking, porcha stole someone's

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:44.359
<v Speaker 1>happy marriage or was the marriage clearly in trouble hence

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:46.919
<v Speaker 1>the fact that Falinge was pregnant with some of another

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 1>man's baby.

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 3>No, they don't, because the the umbradge that people have

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 3>taken with that whole situation had nothing to do with

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 3>the state of failing. You know, they're gonna get you

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 3>for calling her failing, Carlos, her name is.

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, she fails. No, for all three of us.

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Claudia is a clever one with her shame. I'm not

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that clever. I am loud, gay and funny. I'm the

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 1>most I'm the most clever with my reads. I'll do

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:16.280
<v Speaker 1>your bottle being every once in a while. So it's it's.

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:19.799
<v Speaker 3>Falent, Yeah, it's falent. Falling Pina and I think his

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 3>name is Jayleen Banks.

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Okay, I'm sorry. I say nonification notifications charming.

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 4>You know, she need to appreciate it.

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I don't think that people had an issue

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 3>with it because of the state of nobody gave her.

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Damn really about the state of failing in Simon's marriage.

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 3>What people took issue with was the fact that Portia

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 3>was on camera being introduced to Time and by falling

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, who he was married to

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 3>at the time, and she was now in a relationship

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 3>with him. That just the optics of that just were

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:56.840
<v Speaker 3>not positive. No matter how fucked up Falling in Simon's

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:59.360
<v Speaker 3>marriage was, no matter if she was fucking on the

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Jaalen guy at the time or not, no matter, none

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:04.960
<v Speaker 3>of that matters. People did not like the optics of Porsche.

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 3>That's why Kelly this season is able to crack jokes

0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:11.799
<v Speaker 3>about Porscha stealing somebody's man. That's what it was always about.

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 3>We don't really care if they was having problems or not.

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:16.800
<v Speaker 3>It's it's the way that it looked. It just didn't

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 3>look right, you know.

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 1>But Dustin, But Dustin, I want I want to ask

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you this, if a couple is married and there's hints

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:29.880
<v Speaker 1>of infidelic tinse, separation and a not so happy marriage.

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:32.839
<v Speaker 1>And if we are people who say we don't care

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 1>what people think of how things look is and and listen,

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 1>when it came to Balan and again, I don't know,

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know Falan. First of all,

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 1>she's gorgeous, but I really because I really want to know,

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 1>at what, at what moment, at what point is It's

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 1>sort of like, okay, the optics looked a little crazy,

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 1>but clearly both parties in the marriage moved on from

0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.439
<v Speaker 1>the marriage clearly a while ago.

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 4>Well, here's Carlos.

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 3>I think we've all arrived at that point with our

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:06.680
<v Speaker 3>POV on this now, right, because we've seen so much

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 3>play out after we've seen babies born. Simon and Porsche

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 3>went on to get married. Now they've gotten DeVore, they're

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 3>getting divorced. We saw, we've seen what happened. But as viewers,

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 3>we were introduced to this situation at a point that

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 3>took place after the breakdown of that relationship. Remember, in

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:30.040
<v Speaker 3>the real world, absolutely, as an adult, a grown ass man,

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm aware of the complexities of love and relationships. And

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:35.600
<v Speaker 3>things happen when they're supposed to and when they're not

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:38.239
<v Speaker 3>supposed to. Right, that's the reality of it, and the

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:40.839
<v Speaker 3>history of that relationship, in the state of that relationship

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 3>does matter. But speaking through the lens of a viewer

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 3>on this show, right we had we weren't privy to

0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 3>that context. We weren't prevy look coment just came up.

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 3>We did not have that context.

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 4>We didn't know. The story started for us with Hey, Porscha's.

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Now in a relationship with Simon, who was very married

0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:00.719
<v Speaker 3>to this lady named Phallon, and that's how we were

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:03.399
<v Speaker 3>introduced to him. So that's where it began for us.

0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Had that story been told and produced through the show,

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:11.240
<v Speaker 3>had we been introduced to Simon and Fallon's home. Fallon

0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 3>was a guest on the show. She really wasn't even

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.000
<v Speaker 3>a friend of the show. In season thirteen, she was

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:18.320
<v Speaker 3>simply a guest, so we never got a view into

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:20.799
<v Speaker 3>their relationship. We didn't know none of that shit. All

0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 3>we knew was that was her husband and now Portia

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.840
<v Speaker 3>was with him and posted a picture with Dennis and

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:29.319
<v Speaker 3>the damn picture with them. We were confused as fuck,

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 3>And I don't think a lot of Now we know

0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 3>what happened, right, So now everybody that he has caught

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:37.279
<v Speaker 3>off on that. But that's what our experience was. We

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 3>didn't get that. We didn't know that. All we knew

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:41.759
<v Speaker 3>was she was with Falen's husband, and we was like,

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:43.160
<v Speaker 3>what the hell is going on here?

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 2>So as a journalist former journalist, there is a blessing

0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 2>and a curse that information comes to me all the time,

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 2>like I know things. And I was like, how much

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:59.360
<v Speaker 2>you want to say before your hater. It wasn't just

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Porscha and Simon, okay, allegedly reading there was other people

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 2>in the situation as well. So let's get into this

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 2>real quick today. I'm already gonna be called the hater

0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 2>on the show. I think there was a bit of

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:18.920
<v Speaker 2>reverse engineering with that storyline. We see Fallon, we see Simon,

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:21.799
<v Speaker 2>she's married to him, and then invites Porscha over, and

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Porscha is clearly acting first of all, how she was

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:28.319
<v Speaker 2>acting little thirsty around him, and lo and behold, they've

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:33.000
<v Speaker 2>been messing around for a long time. Okay, that was shady.

0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Then after the fact, when after they have a full

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 2>on relationship, when Fallon gets pregnant by the assistant. It's well,

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 2>she was cheating the whole time, was she Would you

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:46.360
<v Speaker 2>really go on a show Housewives with your cheating wife

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 2>if you knew at the time she was cheating on

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:52.080
<v Speaker 2>you with the the help, No, you wouldn't. He didn't

0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 2>know that. That wasn't happening. When that film that scene

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:57.279
<v Speaker 2>when Porscha came to the house, that's bullshit. That is

0:52:57.400 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 2>reverse engineering, like you know you get carness. Well, let

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:02.319
<v Speaker 2>me just act like I knew they was cheating on

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.360
<v Speaker 2>us for me first, so I can justify why I

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:05.799
<v Speaker 2>did that.

0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 4>And people ate it.

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Up because Porsche, I mean, Fallon did not have the platform.

0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:12.720
<v Speaker 2>People don't really know her. They're more familiar with Porsche.

0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:15.319
<v Speaker 2>They love her. She's got a very loyal fan base.

0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 2>So it was like, oh, Fallon, please, you're just a

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:21.439
<v Speaker 2>little dumb girl that screwed the help you fumble the bag. No,

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 2>she left, she she got, She got cheated on, and

0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:26.760
<v Speaker 2>then got with the man that was good looking. And

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I know it's not about looks, but who actually she

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:34.400
<v Speaker 2>felt cared for her heart more. I think Simon collects

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 2>women like trophies. I really don't know if he has

0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:39.960
<v Speaker 2>loved any of these women. I feel like he makes

0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:42.799
<v Speaker 2>he he wants to be famous, and Porsche's even said that.

0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I think he uses women he wants to be on

0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:47.440
<v Speaker 2>reality TV. I think he's an attention hoard, and I

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:50.319
<v Speaker 2>think Simon thinks he's the bad bitch in the relationship.

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Fallon told me that he was pushing her to get

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:55.120
<v Speaker 2>on Housewives of Atlanta before they got on there, So

0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:57.160
<v Speaker 2>he's been wanting to be on of reality so he's

0:53:57.200 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 2>been wanting a peach And then was he do big

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:02.799
<v Speaker 2>Jess shar with Porsche, marries her for weddings, whatever, and

0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:04.440
<v Speaker 2>then he used her. And I do feel bad a

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 2>portion in that regard because I do think maybe she

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.279
<v Speaker 2>really did care for him and he was really like

0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:11.400
<v Speaker 2>liking her but loving the attention. Because the way he

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 2>carries on on social media is giving such bad bitch

0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:17.480
<v Speaker 2>energy and influencer.

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:20.560
<v Speaker 4>It's really excessive. You can tell that some port for him.

0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:22.680
<v Speaker 3>You can tell that's important for him, and all he

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 3>wanted was the attention, which makes me think was that

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:29.359
<v Speaker 3>ship going on between Fallon and Jalen And maybe he

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:32.480
<v Speaker 3>did know and because they now had the opportunity to

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 3>be on the show, fuck it, he let him go

0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 3>ahead and film because.

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:36.359
<v Speaker 4>He wanted to be on the ship.

0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:39.839
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, I think that's plausible. I'm

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.040
<v Speaker 3>not saying we know. I just think that's I think

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.720
<v Speaker 3>both what you're saying and what I'm saying is possible.

0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 4>I think Simon and his intentions right, I.

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Think we're.

0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Using Porsche or Fallon whoever, by any means.

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 3>That there what Faer said, he do them both. I

0:54:57.760 --> 0:55:01.480
<v Speaker 3>think I think it was both. He was thirsty. He

0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:03.919
<v Speaker 3>wants to be on the television, bro. And that's why

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 3>watching him was so exhausting for a nigga like me,

0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:09.240
<v Speaker 3>because I could see straight through that shit and he's

0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:11.920
<v Speaker 3>not I didn't sign up to watch him. You know

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:13.759
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, I'm so glad he's not on this

0:55:13.840 --> 0:55:15.640
<v Speaker 3>season because I did want to see portschit.

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:17.279
<v Speaker 4>I never wanted to see him.

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad he's gone off the show, taking up space

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:22.560
<v Speaker 3>and bringing nothing but negative bullshit.

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:24.440
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm glad he's gone.

0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:27.480
<v Speaker 2>So I'll just believe with the moret he is a

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 2>thirst bucket because I went to his page one day

0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and he was following me. How are you following the

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 2>girl that be and your girl have had beef before.

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:37.759
<v Speaker 2>And then when I clocked his ass on TGIF and

0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:41.000
<v Speaker 2>we started talking about it, he quickly unfollowed me, but

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I took a screenshot, Simon. You want to be You

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:46.399
<v Speaker 2>want attention from anyone you can. You want any kind

0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:49.400
<v Speaker 2>of in roads to be on reality television. I told y'all,

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:52.239
<v Speaker 2>he got his money and it'll be gotten ways allegedly.

0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:54.919
<v Speaker 2>And we had this huge corporation worth all this money.

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 2>You rant and everything, and then you your office is

0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 2>a desk and a fax machine. Where it is the business?

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Where is it? Simon? Where is it? Where is it?

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:07.600
<v Speaker 4>Who is this hole? What can you say?

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:07.920
<v Speaker 1>So?

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 4>Who is this? Who is this hole? I'm you know

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:21.200
<v Speaker 4>what's so funny? Random?

0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:23.720
<v Speaker 3>Let's get up out all of that shit, right, Kenya

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:25.719
<v Speaker 3>to me. Kenya really thought that she was going to

0:56:25.800 --> 0:56:29.720
<v Speaker 3>have an iconic moment with the whole the Meghan lyric

0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 3>repetition right saying that I had been that bitch, still

0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:34.479
<v Speaker 3>that bitch in that bitch. She thought that was gonna

0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:37.080
<v Speaker 3>be a big moment it fell. She thought that the

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:39.720
<v Speaker 3>boeing and paying dust was going to be a moment flop,

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:44.279
<v Speaker 3>but the hit her number one hit record, Okay of

0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 3>that whole album she presented us with was who is

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:49.200
<v Speaker 3>this hole? When I tell you that as a part

0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:51.959
<v Speaker 3>of my vernacular now when things don't make no sense,

0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 3>who is this hole? It don't even have to be

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:56.240
<v Speaker 3>about a person. It can be about a noun in general,

0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:58.759
<v Speaker 3>a person, a place, or a thing. All of those

0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:02.320
<v Speaker 3>can be hole. Thank you, Kenya Moore. That's your line

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:05.239
<v Speaker 3>right there, that's your At least she did get a

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:07.919
<v Speaker 3>hit out of this season with who is This Whole?

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Because I can't stop saying it. I love who is

0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 3>this whole? That's my who is this? That's my name?

0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I am, and I am the I am the moments.

0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:21.440
<v Speaker 3>She was murdering her, oh yeah, she ate her up

0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:22.120
<v Speaker 3>on that time.

0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:28.160
<v Speaker 2>To battle verbally.

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:30.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so hard to just sit here with

0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:32.600
<v Speaker 1>a straight face with the two of you, and it

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 1>has been very challenging anytime we talk. But more in

0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 1>this episode than okay.

0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 4>I see y'all next week.

0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 2>I had fun. I know it was a little ex

0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 2>spicy today. I don't apologize. I said what I said,

0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:45.880
<v Speaker 2>and I meant.

0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:47.120
<v Speaker 4>Everything you said.

0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:48.880
<v Speaker 3>That's why you're in that square, so you can say

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 3>what you got to say. We don't make no apologies

0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:54.480
<v Speaker 3>for our commentary over here. We're smart and focused and funny,

0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:56.680
<v Speaker 3>and if we're asked a question, we gonna mother fucking

0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:59.480
<v Speaker 3>answer it the way we want to, and with our

0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 3>regard to anything other than than than being fair and honest.

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 3>Beyond that, you ain't gotta like it, you know.

0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:07.720
<v Speaker 4>What I'm saying. So there's that.

0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I want to just shout out Erica, Cobby and watch

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:11.600
<v Speaker 2>our podcast accents.

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm coming.

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:15.560
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna come to New York City. We'll all hang

0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 2>out and Carls, you gotta fly in and we're gonna

0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 2>all hang out.

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Cards please wat Wednesday.

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:22.520
<v Speaker 2>A little more well behaved over there than with you guys,

0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I am, but are you okay? Well? Sometimes sometimes not,

0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:28.920
<v Speaker 2>but we have great commentary.

0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:33.480
<v Speaker 4>I like this murders ship. I'll take the murders over

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:34.040
<v Speaker 4>here with.

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<v Speaker 1>Usney, Buddy Pudding high All right, job, have a flight

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