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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Elizabeth dun I'm so glad to see you again.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad to see me every day. Like that smile

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Speaker 3: you're wearing is nice.

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Speaker 2: I got a question for you. You know what is ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: Yes, two things, Well tell me one of them. Okay.

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Speaker 4: The first one, it's not a mash up. The first

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Speaker 4: one is that we have we have a rude dude

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Speaker 4: in the studio with us today. That's not my stomach

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Speaker 4: making those nice.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I couldn't see. I just heard, Yes.

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Speaker 3: We got we got a dog in the studio.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a rude dude. Pull on, rude dude, legit,

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Speaker 4: golden retriever.

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Speaker 2: Rude dude.

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Speaker 4: He's wearing sunglasses. His name is Mickey, and so he's

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Speaker 4: kind of going to town on a kong right now. Okay,

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Speaker 4: And I just want to give you heads up if

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Speaker 4: you hear anything, it's not me.

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Speaker 3: That's the dog.

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Speaker 2: I got you so too.

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Speaker 4: The other thing that's ridiculous, it's not a mashup. It's

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Speaker 4: Mickey's date. Mickey told me it's an update that the

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Speaker 4: guy remember the golden toilet that was stolen? They arrested

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Speaker 4: some people, and I think I talked about that as

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Speaker 4: an update. One of them pled guilty. Whoa James Sheen,

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Speaker 4: aged thirty nine, pleaded guilty to burglary, converting or transferring

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Speaker 4: criminal property and conspiracy to do the same. And so

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Speaker 4: he appeared in court via video link from prison. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: because he's serving a seventeen year sentence there for thefts

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Speaker 4: including stealing tractors. Oh so, high value trophies from the

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Speaker 4: National Horse Racing Museum in Newmarket worth a total of

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Speaker 4: four hundred thousand pounds.

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Speaker 2: I wonder why he flipped.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: But there are other dudes. Michael Jones thirty eight, Frederick

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Speaker 4: Signs aka Frederick Doe, and then Bora Guckock from West London.

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Speaker 4: They also got charged. They're going to stand trial in

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Speaker 4: February twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I got that to look forward to.

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Speaker 4: You know, we really do, we really do. And so that,

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Speaker 4: my friend, is ridiculous. Two ridiculous things.

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Speaker 2: Double dips.

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Speaker 3: I know you got a second I do.

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Speaker 2: I got one for you. Yes, it's about musicians, some

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Speaker 2: of your favorite people.

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Speaker 3: You know. I love this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, musicians are getting busted. Oh I love that yeah,

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Speaker 2: the funny way, like peeping in windows and sniffing flowers

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Speaker 2: and waiting in the McDonald's drive through. Wait what Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is a ridiculous crime A podcast about absurd and

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Speaker 2: outrageous capers, heights and cons always ninety nine percent murder

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Speaker 2: free and one hundred percent ridiculous. Yay, Elizabeth. I was

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Speaker 2: telling a friend a story the other day and then

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Speaker 2: were you, Yeah, I get it, I'm a storyteller. They

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Speaker 2: referenced the story I'm about to tell you, and then

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Speaker 2: I had to go and look it up because I'd

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Speaker 2: never heard it before, and I wanted to make sure

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Speaker 2: that they got all the details right before I told

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Speaker 2: it to you. Okay, I was like, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to look like an idiot front of Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: Never. That's never happened, never once.

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Speaker 2: But then, as I'm researching and it came across a

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Speaker 2: bunch of other similar stories, I was like, well, since

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Speaker 2: this one isn't too long, I'll just throw in a

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Speaker 2: few others just for free. I love it because I

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Speaker 2: like you, Thank you so much. Okay, first step, I

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Speaker 2: consider this one an appetizer of crime, right, Okay. On

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Speaker 2: May eleventh, nineteen sixty five, the Man in Black. Johnny

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Speaker 2: Cash was at Mississippi State University playing a show. So

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Speaker 2: he performs that night. Afterwards, you know, he he gets

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Speaker 2: out there, he sings his songs, picks his guitar, you know,

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Speaker 2: Johnny cashes them all up, and then he goes outside

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Speaker 2: to cool his head. Right, And it must have been

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Speaker 2: like a nice spring night that May night, because Cash

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Speaker 2: he goes for a walk. At some point on his walk,

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Speaker 2: he stopped. Now why did he stop.

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth walking ceased?

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Speaker 2: No to he stopped to smell the flowers. Literally stopped

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Speaker 2: to smell the flowers. That's what Johnny Cash is doing that.

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Speaker 2: I know you really do.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like, especially you get Jasmine in blue, just

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Speaker 2: It where you get like saved smells for later.

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Speaker 3: Like captured in a jar.

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Speaker 2: That was nice. I needed that. They're going like a

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Speaker 3: I don't want to save that smell.

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Speaker 2: No, No, that's the one that's when you use the smell.

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Speaker 4: You're in there and you're like, this smells so bad,

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Speaker 2: I want to share this one with my buddy. He

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Speaker 2: needs to smell all right, Well, okay, Elizabeth Flowers sniffer.

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Speaker 2: So Johnny Cash, he's like you right, And so he's

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Speaker 2: out there sniffing flowers in the moonlight, and uh, all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, cops stop and they're like, ye know, sorry,

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Speaker 2: what's going on. I'm just smelling flowers? Right, And then

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Speaker 2: now the responding officers according to Johnny Cash quote, I

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Speaker 2: reached down and picked a dandelion here and a daisy

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Speaker 2: there as I went along, and this car pulls up, right,

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Speaker 2: it was the fuzz Elizabeth, the Popo, the five oh,

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Speaker 2: the one time. Right. They didn't take too kindly to

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Speaker 2: this flower sniffing man out there sniffing another man's flowers

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the night. So the cops arrest

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Speaker 2: Johnny Cash on charges of public drunkenness. What year was this,

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm just imagining where he was in his life, Yes, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 2: So you know, maybe he was drunk, maybe he was

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Speaker 2: just flower drunk. Who knows, but that meant a knight

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Speaker 2: in the clink the county jail, right, the whoscow Now,

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Speaker 2: his cellmate was a fifteen year old boy named Smoky Evans.

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Speaker 3: Wait, wait what a name?

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Speaker 2: Fifteen year old fifteen year old named Smoky Evans, now

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Speaker 2: the flower sniffer. He's mad about his arrest, so, being

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Speaker 2: Johnny Cash, he acts out right. So Cash he kicks

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Speaker 2: the cell wall all hard, hard enough to bust his

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Speaker 2: fifteen year old boys old his cellmates, Smoky Evans, and

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Speaker 2: according to the country legend, he said, here's a souvenir.

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Speaker 2: I'm Johnny Cash. So he gives him his shoes. Wait,

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Speaker 2: can you imagine that you're in Starksville, Mississippi. You get

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Speaker 2: and he gives you his shoes.

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Speaker 4: Wow, I wonder what I really do? Wonder what Smokey

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Speaker 3: And Johnny Cash is like, here, take my shoes. And

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Speaker 3: he finds out later He's like, what have I done?

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Speaker 2: I gave a man to kill seven get canceled. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: after his night in jail, Johnny Cash he walked out

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Speaker 2: Oh Yeah about his time inside Mississippi. Now. In nineteen

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Speaker 2: sixty nine, Johnny Cash he played a very famous show

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Speaker 2: in San Quentin Prison along with Fulsom Prison Blues. He

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Speaker 2: also performed another car sar Roles Folks on Starksville City Jail,

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Speaker 2: Oh Wow. And Johnny Cash told the guys in San

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Speaker 2: Quentin and I quote, you wouldn't believe it. One night

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Speaker 2: I got in jail in Starkville, Mississippi for picking flowers.

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Speaker 2: I was walking down the street and uhuh, you know,

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Speaker 2: Because that's what his friends called him, Elizabeth Jr. About

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Speaker 2: two in the morning, after a show I think it was. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: As I went along and this car pulls up, he said,

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Speaker 2: doing I said, I'm just picking flowers. Well, thirty six

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Speaker 2: can't hardly win, can you. No telling what they'd do

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Speaker 2: if I pull an apple or something. I'd like to

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Speaker 2: get back at the fellow down in Starksville, Mississippi that

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Speaker 2: can make getting busted for flower picking sound cool as hell.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're in San Quentin. Yeah, and you've like,

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Speaker 4: if you're in San Quentin, you've done some san Quentin yeah,

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Speaker 4: more than flower picking.

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Speaker 3: And here's this guy. Man, they got me a flower

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Speaker 2: Like, uh huh sure, all right, Ja.

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Speaker 3: No, you know, I was caught with a necklace full

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Speaker 2: No necklace.

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Speaker 3: Full of ears?

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Speaker 2: Like, okay, you know what I'm gonna go to the

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Speaker 2: next one. It involves our girl, Amy Winehouse. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. At the time, Amy Winehouse was

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Speaker 2: in Milton, Keynes. Okay, I had never heard of this. Really,

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Speaker 2: it's a town I don't know, Milton No. I know,

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Speaker 2: Like anyway, in case you're wondering that's a city in

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Speaker 2: England like me and you're an idiot. Specifically it's in Buckinghamshire, No,

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Speaker 2: Winehouse at the theater. She was at a pantomime theater.

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Speaker 3: So mine panto? No, it's not mine.

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Speaker 4: No, No, it's like that's like a Christmas thing, Like, oh,

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Speaker 4: that's what those like wall productions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're very campy. Okay, So she's at the participation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know those. I thought those were just specifically Christmas.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know they did sell the pantos. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well this play was Cinderella.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's what they do.

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Speaker 4: It's not necessarily always at Christmas, but like, okay, I

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Speaker 4: mean the guess that's probably happened around Christmas. No, but

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Speaker 4: but yeah, no, it's like it's kids shows and that

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, so.

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Speaker 2: She was a panto yeah, and I kid you not.

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Speaker 2: There was someone else famous there.

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Speaker 3: She was in the audience, in the audience. How amazing

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Speaker 4: To alla panto and sitting next to just zonked out

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Speaker 2: And not only that, but on stage is Mickey Rooney?

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Speaker 3: Stop it?

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Speaker 4: I was so when I got to the r and

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Speaker 4: I was like, please say Mickey Rock, Please say Mickey Rock.

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Speaker 2: When I first read it, I thought it was the

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Speaker 2: typo or like some kid who's English and had the

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Speaker 2: same name. But I looked it up. He was alive

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Speaker 2: in two thousand, nine years old. Oh, I looked for it.

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Speaker 2: He lived for four more years. He was like eighty

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Speaker 2: nine years older at that time. I'm right, okay, hey,

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Speaker 2: he died in twenty fourteen. Anyway, So you got this

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Speaker 2: doing Cinderella and Amy Winehouse right, Yeah. I guess she

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Speaker 2: wasn't too into their rendition of Cinderella because she starts

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Speaker 4: Because we know her fate, but also like just drunks

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Speaker 3: Doing this is a four year old, huh, I love that.

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Speaker 2: don't know what she's working. Oh yeah, she pulled some

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Speaker 2: She also didn't use just two limbs, she used all

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Speaker 3: And then so the cost you're talking about britz.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because oh right, sorry, So the bobbies they show

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Speaker 3: Royal commonplar she was.

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Speaker 2: Common that extraordinary assault basic. So she gets busted under

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Speaker 2: her legal name, Amy Sivil that was her married name.

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Speaker 2: her fine was eighty five pounds and another one hundred

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Speaker 3: Well that's worth it. The entertainment value.

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Speaker 2: It's like an up charge really, I mean, it's like

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Speaker 3: You're like, hey, right out, yeah, extra one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and eighty five pounds and you can yell at

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Speaker 4: You have to excuse my wheezing. I've just recovered from pneumonia.

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Speaker 2: Oh you got the walking kind or the dancing kind?

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Speaker 4: Walky, I have the common you got dancing pneumonia, spectacular pneumonia.

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Speaker 2: So I got another one for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah okay, Odb oh yeah aka.

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Speaker 2: Yeah big Baby Jesus aka Dirt McGirt aka the Osirius

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Speaker 2: of this is okay.

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Speaker 4: So I'm say, you know, like just for the uninitiated

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Speaker 3: Yes, a wrapper, Yes.

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Speaker 2: A wrapper from the Wu Tang clan. Now I'm keeping

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Speaker 2: things a little spicy, Elizabeth, this one just the way

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Speaker 2: Dirty would like it, lizib But you go from Amy

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Speaker 2: So this story, it goes nine years before Amy Winehouse

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Speaker 2: mix it up with Dick Pound on October twenty eighth,

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Speaker 3: Okay, as we've all been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course right now. At the time, the mercurial

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he had escaped from a Lamb rodeo get off.

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Speaker 2: So this all requires a explanation because these were charges

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Speaker 2: in multiple jurisdictions. Right, the trouble essentially starts in February

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Speaker 2: ninety nine. At that time he was driving around LA.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's wrong with that.

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Speaker 2: It was illegal at the time in California. In fact,

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Speaker 3: Laws really broke it in.

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Speaker 2: Right at a lucky law. No, I guess there was

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Speaker 2: other things that felons had to give up. Besides their

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Speaker 3: Oh, so it was only felons.

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Speaker 2: Convicted felons were not allowed to wear a bulletproof vests

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Speaker 3: Anyway, doesn't sound very safety mind.

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Speaker 2: It was after that in North Hollywood robbery where the

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Speaker 2: weeks later after that, he was in New York, right,

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Speaker 2: and he gets busted again for drug possession. I have

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Speaker 2: A weekend's amount, right long weekend if you're ODB. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he busts.

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Speaker 2: Out right, he's like, I got an exactly, goes on

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Speaker 3: Hops on a lamb down the street.

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Speaker 2: So he rides that lamb over to Rizz's recording studio. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm here to say I love ridding Lambs in a

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Speaker 2: So they're at the Hammerstein Ballroom for a record release

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Speaker 2: For the brief time he was there, ODB tells the crowd,

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Speaker 2: Well, he had a plan though. His whole plan was

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Speaker 2: what does that mean? Dirt his life windmill. He planned

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Speaker 2: later that same month, October twenty eighth, he travels to Philly,

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Speaker 3: The area, it's fantastic. I've never been there.

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Speaker 2: Someone recognizes him. He draws a crowd, so what does

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Speaker 2: the you know abbs for him, right right, So she

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Speaker 4: He was there messing around in the drive through long

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Speaker 2: Okay, So her superior on the force, Sergeant mel Williams,

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Speaker 3: Straight forward, That's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 2: And she didn't ask for an autograph and said she

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: He spends the next few days in a Philly holding

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Speaker 2: line is probably one of the most odb ways to

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Speaker 2: I hope there was a shake, like always broken. Machine's

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Speaker 2: always broken, right, I hope you're in luck, odb, We

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Speaker 3: We'll turn the machine back on.

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Speaker 2: All right. Let's take a little break, Elizabeth. There sells

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Speaker 2: some shakes, and we'll be back in two and two

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Speaker 2: with more ridiculous busts. Excellent, Elizabeth Zen, This is the

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Speaker 3: Oh this okay?

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Speaker 2: Bob Dylan Yes, aka Robert Zimmerman aka Bobby no digital

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Speaker 2: free wheeling one. Okay. This story took place in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and nine, same year Amy Winehouse got busted for

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Speaker 2: the pantomime theater right there. No, so this one is

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Speaker 2: a July twenty third. He was in Long Branch, New Jersey.

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Speaker 3: Didn't fight Mickey Rooney that year.

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Speaker 4: Everyone went at Mickey Rooney.

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Speaker 2: You see Mickey Rooney, you're getting busted.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, but it's only celebrities are going out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly so New Jersey cop. Right, they spot this

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Speaker 2: She has to assume that this is the same man

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Speaker 2: that is motivated. Nervous residents are in the area to

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Speaker 2: Man had been seen pairing into windows of vacant homes.

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Speaker 2: homeless man looking for a place to get out of

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00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 2: the rain. Naturally, the neighbors they phone the cops. I'll worry.

438
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 2: The cops promptly show up. Officer Christie Bubble, she responded

439
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 2: to the call.

440
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 3: I can't laugh at people's names like this.

441
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 2: Oh I can all the time. I got more names coming, so, yeah,

442
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,439
Speaker 2: Christie Bubble. She also, by the way, that's Christie Bubble

443
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 2: with one bee. But in all this news stories it's

444
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 2: pronounced bubble like they want you to know. It's not

445
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 2: like that guy Michael whatever. Bob. Yeah, no Bubble, it's

446
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: bubble around here, one bee Bubble. I'm like, okay anyway,

447
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 2: Officer Christy Bubble responded to call. She drove out, she

448
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 2: located the suspect. She got out of her patrol vehicle.

449
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 2: She confronted the suspicious man. He told her he was

450
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,439
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan. Now, luckily you don't have to take my

451
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: word for it, because we have Officer Christie Bubble to

452
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 2: tell you what all went down when she tried to

453
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 2: bust Bob Dylan. Oh yeah, take it away, Officer Christie Bubble.

454
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 2: It was just a call for someone looking in a

455
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: house and it was pouring rain, so they gave a description,

456
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 2: and I just happened to be there and stopped him asking,

457
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 2: you know, normal questions, what are you doing here? What's

458
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 2: your name? He said, I'm Bob Dylan. I'm on tour.

459
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 3: I'm on tour. You know, just let me be.

460
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 2: If someone, let's say they look like Bob Dylan and

461
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 2: they told you this, would you believe them? Because I

462
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 2: would not. I'd be like, you're not Bob Dylan.

463
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 3: I'd be like, sing as a song, prove it.

464
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 2: Hold on to that thought now, backed Officer Bubble. And

465
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 2: I thought, no, that doesn't seem right because he was

466
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: playing in Lakewood. Why would he be in Long Branch.

467
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: It's forty five minutes from where he should be. Now,

468
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 2: see Bob Dylan clearly such a call.

469
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 3: But she knows in town.

470
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 2: Yes, interesting, right, So Officer Bubble keeps Pepperham with questions.

471
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 2: He's saying these things that are normal indicators of liars.

472
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 2: I'm Bob Dylan. Okay, what's your real name? He told

473
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 2: me his real name, his real like real name, his

474
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: government name. I think it's Zimmerman. Right, Oh my god,

475
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: now this is indeed his government name, Robert Zimmerman. Okay,

476
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 2: Bobby no digital.

477
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 5: Now.

478
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: So, confronted with a man who's clearly lying or on

479
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: drugs and believes he's Bob Dylan or whatever, what does

480
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 2: she do next, Officer Bubble? And I'm like, that's totally weird.

481
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: Now that's not right. He has two names. Some other

482
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: kid came and backed me up, and he's my age.

483
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 2: He didn't believe me either. So now there's two cops,

484
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: two young cops. They're both like, so you're Bob Dylan. Okay, buddy,

485
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan, who is not known to be patient or

486
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: kind with small talk. Now you must be losing it.

487
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 2: He's in the rain. These cops are like, what's going on?

488
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 5: Then?

489
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: Rain? So packed Officer Bubble. I just put him in

490
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 2: the car and said, okay, where are you staying, Bob?

491
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: Kind of sarcastically messing with him a little bit. Where's

492
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: your hotel? Where might you be staying? Where are your friends?

493
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: Wait a second, we think that's funny, but imagine it

494
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 4: really is like just a homeless man's Bob exactly.

495
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: Look, that's the subtle part of the story.

496
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: Talk when you just imagine this is not Bob Dylan.

497
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: Just you run both stories the entire time.

498
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, So now.

499
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: They're just openly effing with not Bob Dylan. Like, okay,

500
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan, if you're really Bob Dylan, name three of

501
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: his early albums.

502
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: And like what if he's like mentally ill and thinks

503
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 4: he's Bob Dylan and they're just messing.

504
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 2: So poor Bob Dylan, Right, Okay, back to the story.

505
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: Officer Bubble and Officer let's call him Officer Cupcake. Officer

506
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: Cupcake and Bubble, they're still questioning Bob Dylan, and now

507
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: they have him sitting in their squad car and they're like, hey,

508
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan, where are you staying while you're on tour?

509
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: I don't see a tour bus anywhere.

510
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 3: They bullied.

511
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan has an answer for Officer Bubble and Officer cupcake,

512
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 2: and I quote from Officer Bubble and he says, Oh,

513
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: it's this hotel out by the ocean, and I think

514
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: that kind of makes sense. So now the cops are

515
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: willing to drive this weirdo over to the hotel that

516
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: he's claimed he's staying at, mostly though, it's just to

517
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: prove that he's a liar, and then they can cut

518
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: to the chase and arrest him and take him to

519
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 2: Central Book. But meanwhile they to go out for the

520
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: drive to the coast, so backed Officer Bubble and their

521
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: account of what happened next. And even when we pulled

522
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: up to the hotel and there were buses and stuff,

523
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: I thought it might be some guy in character, someone

524
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: who might be imitating him and won't get out of

525
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: character even dealing with police. So I mean, to be fair,

526
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good description of Bob Dylan as far

527
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 2: as I can tell him. Some guy in character who

528
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: won't get out of character even dealing with the police.

529
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: Someone Bob Dylan. Right now that we've taken him to

530
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: his hotel, does his manager spot him in the back

531
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: of the cop car and freak out? Like does the

532
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: teamster maybe see him and cod to and go, hey, man,

533
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: you can't be arresting Bob man or so what goes down? Well,

534
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 2: backed Officer Bubble. Bob Dylan is nice. He talked a lot,

535
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: and I wasn't even paying attention to some of the

536
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 2: things he was saying, because in my head I was wondering,

537
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 2: what am I going to tell the hospital? What am

538
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: I going to tell my supervisor? He's just blabbering in

539
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: the back.

540
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 3: Oh, he's flabbering.

541
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: What does he say of those she describes Dylan just

542
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: blabbering in the back. There are so many people alive

543
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: who would love like five minutes of his time. Yeah, right,

544
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, like Officer Bubble has like

545
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: an I don't know, an hour with him, and she's

546
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: like treating it like court ordered care of her demented grandfather.

547
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 2: He's like, I got it. He's babbling again. Anyway, So

548
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: those who do revere Bob Dylan and would love to

549
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: know what he would say in such a situation. I

550
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: have some answers. Yes, according to Officer Bubble, I actually

551
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: remember he said, just take me over there. I'll give

552
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: you tickets to my show. You can see me play.

553
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: I remember he said that, and I thought this guy

554
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: is crazy. So of course that wasn't all. Bob also

555
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 2: had way more to say. He told me he's famous

556
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: for singing. He told me he wrote all these songs.

557
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: It didn't actually occur to me to ask, like, sing

558
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: me a song. She never thinks of your first thoughts, Ye,

559
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: sing me a song song?

560
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 4: But would she even know a Dylan song or know

561
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 4: his voice? It sounds like she doesn't know much at all.

562
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: Hold that thought. If some man you think is crazy, right,

563
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: and he tells you he's Bob Dylan, and you don't

564
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: ask him to prove it by singing a Bob Dylan song, yeah,

565
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't say that to the newspaper writers. And

566
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 2: that's just me anyway. So Officer Bubble's mother, you know,

567
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: she asked that sort of question, the same question you asked,

568
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: the question I would ask. And as Officer Bubble tells it,

569
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: that was the third question. My mom asked, like, why

570
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: didn't you ask him to sing? I was like, I

571
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: don't know, mom, I didn't think about it. In retrospect,

572
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: it was the number one thing I should have done. Okay, well,

573
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: way to go, way to have like a post the

574
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 2: game like assessment by the cops. They don't always do

575
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: that once, so hey, way to go. But meanwhile, Bob

576
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: Dylan is practically daring her to ask him to sing.

577
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: I think he named a couple of songs.

578
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: The problem I got.

579
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 4: He's like, okay, a, I'm famous BM a singer.

580
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: He starts naming his songs.

581
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: So she's like, he have a pulitzerprise.

582
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, for his autobiography. That was before then, yeah, that

583
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: was after then. Oh yeah, so yeah after this event.

584
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: So and then she says, but I wouldn't have known

585
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: any of the songs. So there you go, Elizabeth. Here

586
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: it is at this point Bob Dylan is at the hotel,

587
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: but he's still in police custody, right, so what gives

588
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 2: is he enjoying himself? He's just messing with him, accorded

589
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: Officer Bubble. He wasn't in trouble. There wasn't any chance

590
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: of him being arrested. It was just a suspicious thing.

591
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: There was no answered him going to jail or anything.

592
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: He probably knew that. I mean, if he couldn't tell

593
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: me where those buses were, he might have been in

594
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: the hospital. I would have had to make some phone calls. Now,

595
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: if she would, if she wouldn't have listened to him

596
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: and been willing to drive him over to his hotel

597
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: and found all the tour buses, Yeah, she would have

598
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: had Bob Dylan incarcerated in like the version of like for.

599
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 4: What why Shelvy, It's illegal to walk down the street

600
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: in the rain.

601
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's what I mean right in

602
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: this country, I'm telling you, Elizabeth. So even Officer Bubble

603
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: admits at this point she knows that he hasn't done

604
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: anything wrong, but she still thinks he's suspicious. Right, She's

605
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: already admitted that. Anyway.

606
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: Officer next back to Officer Bumble.

607
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: Even if he didn't say he was Bob Dylan, I

608
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: would have thought something was off. I mean normal people,

609
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: what you usually ask, like, what are you doing here?

610
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: Where do you live? Where are you from? He said,

611
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: I have houses all over the place. I don't live

612
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: in one place. I travel so much. I have a

613
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: house in London, I have a house in California. People

614
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: in Long Branch say I live in Long Branch. I

615
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: live here. So little red flags are going off and

616
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: he's not lying. But a noural person would have made

617
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: sense he's.

618
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: Telling you the truth.

619
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love her logic. Like what he's

620
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: saying doesn't make sense according to long branch standards, so

621
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: like lock him up all that where it is, we

622
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: should have hospitalize this guy.

623
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: I still don't understand, Like why.

624
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: So according to Officer Bubble, one way or another, it

625
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 2: was definitely Bob Dylan's fault, right, and I quote if

626
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: he didn't say he was Bob Dylan, the totality would

627
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: have been who is this person? Why do they say

628
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: they live all over the place. He looks like a

629
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: homeless person, and he's saying he's rich, he has all

630
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: these houses. He's walking around in the rain in a

631
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: rain jacket. He was soaking wet. He had rain boots on,

632
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: sweatpants and a jacket.

633
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: Well you're not supposed to wear rain boots in the rains.

634
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: No, but only and the sweatpants And who cares anyway?

635
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: Okayes like I'm just I'm having a hard time not

636
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 4: getting mad. That's something that happens so long ago. Incarcerated him,

637
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: doesn't But also it's like she would last ten minutes

638
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 4: in the Bay Area where it's like you can you

639
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 4: could be like in Berkeley and see someone who looks

640
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 4: totally normalless and it's a Nobel laureates, so.

641
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: Totally or somebody who looks really like geared up, nice outfit,

642
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: and they'll rob you play.

643
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: By those rules, and so I can't.

644
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 4: I'm just having a hard time processing being like, you're

645
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: not dressed right, you're homeless, and.

646
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: I have to take you in.

647
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 4: What have you hospitalized against your will? Because I don't

648
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: believe what you're saying about where you live?

649
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: Now? Do you remember the original reason for the callous

650
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: peering in the windows? Right?

651
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: Right?

652
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: So back to the officer bubble about that. Yeah, he

653
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: said that he saw a house with a forced sale

654
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: sign and he was looking to possibly buy this house.

655
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: I said, normal people go through a real estate agent.

656
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: Why are you walking around the back of the house.

657
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: He was like, I don't know, I just wanted to

658
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: check it out. I was like, all right, it was

659
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: kind of strange. So it turns out Bob Dylan was

660
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: not planning on buying the house. He just said that,

661
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: but what he was doing was looking for the childhood

662
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: home of the Boss. I read something afterwards that he

663
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: was looking for Bruce Springsteen's childhood house.

664
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

665
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: The Officer Bubble still exculpates herself of all guilt because again,

666
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: that doesn't make sense to her Long Branch standard of

667
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,719
Speaker 2: what makes sense, because Engstein's house, it's not even in

668
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: that neighborhood. It's in the west end side of town.

669
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: This was the center of Long Branch. There's nice houses,

670
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: but they're kind of like old and rickety. I don't

671
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: know what he was looking at. I have no idea.

672
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: It's like I park out in front of the boss's

673
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: childhood home every night while I eat my burger and

674
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 4: stare in their windows, and so I know where it is.

675
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta ask you guys a question. All right.

676
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 6: You know how Bob Dylan is like a super trickster,

677
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 6: and so he's never gonna give you a straight answer. Yes,

678
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 6: what songs he's he's sung? Is he like naming random

679
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 6: things like he's like, have you heard I got five

680
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 6: on it?

681
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: Or he's like run for the US A couple of love?

682
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: Are you familiar? Oh? God, yeah, I do. Wish I

683
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: could hear the list of songs that he referenced.

684
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: Well, Officer Bubble, she kind of gets into that, she says,

685
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: and I quote. When you encounter someone as famous as him,

686
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: you expect him to be pomp this is who I am.

687
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: Don't do this, don't you know who I am? It

688
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: was nothing like that, like nothing at all. He was

689
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: modest and calm and chill. I definitely didn't think, oh,

690
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: this guy is such a jerk off, and I'll never

691
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: think of him the same way again. Not at all.

692
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: He was nicer than ninety five percent of the people

693
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: I deal with every.

694
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: Day, Nicer than I would have been, right.

695
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan, nicer than ninety five percent of cops and criminals.

696
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: I think he should put on his next record cover.

697
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: I want to lit into her so hard, and still

698
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 4: to this day, I'd be giving interviews and naming names

699
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: on her.

700
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: How did all this get finally resolved? Great question, Elizabeth.

701
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: Back to Officer Bubble. As soon as we got to

702
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: the hotel and I pulled the police car in, I

703
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: was thinking, let me check this out. Maybe it's just

704
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: a coincidence. There's just buses here. They're not for him,

705
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: and his manager came running out to us and flipped out,

706
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: being a total jerk. He grabbed Bob out of the

707
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: car and said, don't talk to them anymore, come with me.

708
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: I was like, sorry, sorry, Bob for my dad a fan.

709
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to not believe you. I couldn't talk

710
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: to him anymore because the manager wouldn't let me have

711
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: anything to do with him. So the cop right is

712
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: immediately relenting to the manager because they're a jerk. Yeah,

713
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: and that makes sense to her long branch standards apparently,

714
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: and then she's like.

715
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: Wait, I want to keep talking to him.

716
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the manager was a pompous and I go, whoa,

717
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: we're still the cops. Give us some form of idea,

718
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: or we're gonna come on your bus, and he's like,

719
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: you don't have a warrant, don't come on this bus.

720
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: And I was like, we're not trying to do all this.

721
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: Just tell us who this is and we'll get moving now.

722
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: Even though the crazy man is clearly Bob Dylan, and

723
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: the cops just they refuse to give up their position. Right.

724
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: So she says, we tried to look in the bus.

725
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 2: I was kind of being nosy and I wanted to

726
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: and the manager wasn't allowing us anywhere near it.

727
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: You want to look in the windows?

728
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: Suddenly foot right, so and the manager wasn't allowing us

729
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: anywhere near it, which was suspicious in itself, But fine whatever.

730
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: The guy was just in the back of my car.

731
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: Who cares if I see him on the bus. I mean,

732
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: he just seems like a quiet, chilled dude who was

733
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 2: minding his own business, being a little weird he had

734
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: to run into me. I have no idea what would

735
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: have happened if you had met one of the older cops.

736
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: How would that have gone down? Probably well, they probably

737
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: would have known him.

738
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: They wouldn't have been like, hey.

739
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: Can I get tickets from my kids and my wife

740
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: and me? You know so Officer Bubbles. She was able

741
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: to laugh at herself after the story became a national

742
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: news story. I don't even know how it got out.

743
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: The police department all joked and laughed and made fun

744
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: of me for weeks, but none of the cops, total

745
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: newspaper or anything. It didn't even come out till like

746
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: a few months later. I was like, that happened months ago. Now.

747
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: As for her mom and dad, the Bob Dylan superfan,

748
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: her dad who somehow didn't teach his daughter to recognize

749
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: Bob Dollan or believe someone who says they are Bob Dylan.

750
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: Officer Bubble had this to say, Elizabeth, you know, I

751
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: mean he's famous. I get it, and it's weird. He

752
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: was in Long Branch, but people were calling from everywhere

753
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: to talk to me. My picture was in the biggest

754
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: newspaper in New York. They made it seem like I

755
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: was some dumb girl who didn't know who he was

756
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: and had never heard of him. And that's not the case.

757
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: My dad, he passed away six years ago, but he

758
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: used to love Bob Dylan. My mom listened to him.

759
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: I knew who he was, but I wasn't sitting around

760
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 2: looking at his picture every day. But since then, people

761
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 2: have bought me CDs and records. I don't know. It's funny.

762
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: I wanted to have a normal conversation with him after.

763
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: I want to say, manager, just step away from me

764
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: for just one minute. Just let me talk to with

765
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: him for one minute. I promise. I don't want anything

766
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: from him. I don't want to bother him. I just

767
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: want to have a conversation with him where I don't

768
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 2: think he's a crazy person. Oh my god, one last

769
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: word from Officer Bubble. I'll let her take us out

770
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: because I know she's already taken you out.

771
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: She has.

772
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 2: If I saw him today, I don't think he'd be mad.

773
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 2: I'd say it was a misunderstanding and everyone comes out okay.

774
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: And I was just doing my job and didn't believe you.

775
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: My bad, I'm sorry. Did you hear that she pretended

776
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: as a cop that she would actually apologize for her

777
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: actions rather than you know, rationalize them. Being is a

778
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: reasonable response to a reasonable situation. Okay, Elizabeth, there you go.

779
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: Ask the Bob Dylan. So, Bob Dylan versus Officer Bubble.

780
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: It was incredible.

781
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a little break. Yes, and I got

782
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: another nuts one for you.

783
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 3: Oh I can't wait.

784
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: Oh, Elizabeth, your interurn's kind of noisy, can you hear? Yeah,

785
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: just a little bit whatever. He's spirited though, I really like.

786
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: But it's like I can't put him outside. No, he

787
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: needs to be in the studio otherwise he'll lose it.

788
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: I respect the game. So, lizbe I got a final

789
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: story for you today. You're ready. The year was nineteen

790
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: sixty five. Okay, like, wait a minute, we've already done

791
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five. All these stories are either from two thousand.

792
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: And nine or nineteen sixty five year, just like I just.

793
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: Want stories forty four years apart. Anyway, the musician Frank

794
00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 2: Zappa was working in a latino club in Ontario, California.

795
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: And by working, I mean he was in a blues trio.

796
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: Oh okay, with the crowd was far more likely to

797
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 2: be paying attention to the go go girls. You see,

798
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: there were four of them on stage, all of them

799
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: in fishnet stockings. As you would say, hubba hubba. So

800
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: what's Frank Zappa doing playing in a blues trio and

801
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 2: a latino club in Ontario, California, but go go dance? Yes, well,

802
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: he was doing whatever a used car salesman was willing

803
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 2: to pay him a hundred bucks to do. Yeah. Well wait, sorry,

804
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: that makes it sound dirty. Yeah okay, wait, sorry again,

805
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 2: I just checked my notes. This story is dirty, okay,

806
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: but not like you're likely imagining Elizabeth. Okay, wait partially

807
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: how you're imagining. Anyway, here's the deal. One day, on

808
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: a break from playing with the blues trio, this used

809
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 2: car salesman comes into the club, right, you know, kind

810
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: of sidles up next to him and like waits for

811
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: his moment or whatever. And when he gets Frank Zappa's attention.

812
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 2: The used car dealer, he says, hey, buddy, he played

813
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 2: pretty good, right, and being young and not yet fully

814
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: Frank Zappa the way we know him, He's like, thanks, mister,

815
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: the show and the way I imagine it goes. The

816
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: used car salesman is like, oh you bet you. I

817
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: really was picking up what you fellas were laying down,

818
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: if you too can dig it, and Frank Zappa's like,

819
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: oh yeah, sure pal. Now the used car dealer, he

820
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: kind of looks around, he looks left, he looks right,

821
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 2: and then he sort of lowers his voice and he says, hey,

822
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: so you ever make any recordings, you know, like with

823
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: your own equipment? And now the used car salesman has

824
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: Frank Zappa's full attention, right yeah, and so Zappa says, yeah,

825
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: I got a home studio. What sort of recordings are

826
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 2: we talking about?

827
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 5: That?

828
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: The used car dealer he's all excited. He looks around again,

829
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: checks ue if anyone can hear him, and then he says,

830
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: all low and slow, I think you know the dirty

831
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: kind now, Oliz turns out this used car salesman did

832
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 2: not want the dirty kind of the blues. He wanted

833
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: sex tapes. Elizabeth, wait, record audio sex tapes?

834
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 3: Oh good, oh so god.

835
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: Frank Zappa looked like the kind of fella who might

836
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: know where he could get some audio sex tape.

837
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: Probably right, it would look like.

838
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: And he wanted custom made jobs. So Zappa tells his

839
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: used car dealer he could make some audio sex tapes

840
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: for him. In fact, one of the one of the

841
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: go Go dancers, he points out which one. She's up

842
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: there on the stage, gyrating in her go Go boots.

843
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: So it's easy for the used car salesman to kind

844
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: of get his motor running. And Frank Zappa says her,

845
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: right now, they used car salesman. He's all in. He's

846
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: practically ripping his wallet out of his pants pocket. At

847
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 2: this point, the two men they agree to a price

848
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars for a custom made bespoke audio sex tapes.

849
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: So this is this is horrible.

850
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: No, it's better than you think. This is nineteen sixty five.

851
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: That same hundred dollars would be nine hundred and eighty

852
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 2: five dollars.

853
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: Take we're doing a conversion.

854
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: You we're talking about one thousand dollars sex tape. So Elizabeth,

855
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: at this point of the story, your.

856
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 3: Thoughts, ew right, I just ewing on the whole.

857
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: Well, how about this? I got some questions for you. One,

858
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: how Frank Sappa is this story?

859
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: Oh beyond?

860
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: Two? Did you know audio sex tapes were a thing?

861
00:38:59,600 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 3: No?

862
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: Three? Have you ever wanted go go boots?

863
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: Yeah? Kind of?

864
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 2: Okay. Now back to Zappa. So he agrees to make

865
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: the thousand dollars custom made bespoke audio sex tape. And

866
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: he he's got the costars.

867
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: Picked up like a record.

868
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, So who else is going to be in

869
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: it besides the Go Go dancer? Well, he wants to

870
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: keep you know, costs down, so he decides he'll be

871
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 2: the other audio porn star. Okay, So the Go Go dancer,

872
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: her name is Lorraine Belcher. She was nineteen. She was

873
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: his girlfriend at the time, and so it wasn't like

874
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: a hard question to pose to her, right, It's just

875
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: some fast cash for an artsy young couple. Now, now

876
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: that they've turned semi pro as sex workers, Zappa and

877
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: Lorraine Belcher, they go home and they have to make

878
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 2: this audio sex tape. Now, according to Zappa, he says,

879
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: I stayed up most of the night manufacturing this bogus

880
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: sex tape fake Bedsprings, squeaks and grunts. I overdubbed a

881
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: musical background and spent hours cutting the laughs out of

882
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: this thing.

883
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is actually super fun. I knew

884
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: you would like that, imagining like old radio shows.

885
00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 5: Like.

886
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: Exactly, like a submarine. So he makes this fake sex tape, right,

887
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: and the guy offers him what would be a grand

888
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: now for this custom They bespoke audio sex tape. And

889
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: he has his girlfriend and a mic, and they have

890
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: plenty of mics because he's got it. He lives in

891
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: a recording studio, right, So he basically mikes up the

892
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: bed like a drum kid, and they just have so

893
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: much fun faking this all right, and then so you know,

894
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: but they could have if they wanted to, have made

895
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: a much easier real tape. They are a real couple.

896
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: They have the mics exactly, you know, goodness, and being frank,

897
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: he pulls this all nighter. He makes probably the world

898
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: most brilliant sex tape. Right, and but as I said,

899
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 2: all fakes rage you pointed out radio show Bed Springs.

900
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: He also adds a comical musical score under underneath it

901
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: all like playing in the background.

902
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 4: Is like this music he's got definitely.

903
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: So not only was all this faked, right, but uh,

904
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: I gotta kind of drop the curtain for you. The

905
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: used car salesman he was also fake. He was an

906
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 2: undercover cop.

907
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 3: What.

908
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: Yes, everything in this story is fake, Elizabeth. Yeah, so

909
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: the only scenario that is somehow totally reasonable in the

910
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: world of Frank Zappa is that everything is fake in

911
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: this So so just okay, just to kind of prep this,

912
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: because I want to give you a sad sense of

913
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: where Frank Zappa was in his life at this moment.

914
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: Because I keep saying nineteen sixty five, and people know

915
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: Frank Zappa. You know, they may know like him in

916
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: like the Sheik your booty era, or they may know

917
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're thinking of, but exactly Mother's

918
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: invention era, I don't know. But let's just go back

919
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: to when he started out being Frank Zappa two years earlier.

920
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 2: On March fourteenth, nineteen sixty three, a then twenty three

921
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: year old Frank Zappa went on national television. He played

922
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 2: a song on two bicycles. It's okay, not like he

923
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: was riding the bicycles and playing a song over he

924
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: was playing the bikes like musical instruments, right. He basically

925
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: wanted to pull one over on Steve Allen. All Right,

926
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: So when Zappa first comes out onto the set, the

927
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: late night host is like, oh, how long you've been

928
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: playing the bike, right, trying to be able to dig

929
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: jovial as a musical instrument. And ZAPPI sayes, oh, about

930
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: two weeks he's on TV. Steve Allen's got to play

931
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: alonger this big laugh from the crowd, like they love

932
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: this kid, right, So then he goes ahead and he

933
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: gives a legitimate exhibition of his talents as a bicycle player.

934
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: So he uses a violin bow on the bike spokes, right,

935
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: and that sound that emerges is basically identical to like

936
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: an elephant's trumpet blast.

937
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

938
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: Then he also he plucks the spokes, which kind of

939
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 2: sounds like a drunken harp.

940
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 5: Right.

941
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: Then bent low right, he blows into the bicycle's handlebars

942
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: from one end. He like his lips are on the handgrip, right,

943
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: and he gives it a mighty wind and then all

944
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: of a sudden it comes a whistling sound from the

945
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: other end, right. Yeah. So later Zappa and Steve Allen

946
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: they get into this together because he kind of teaches

947
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: Steve Allen how to play, like, here's just knock stuff around, right,

948
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: And so they played the two bikes together for a

949
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: tune that Zappa called to quote a small improvisation for

950
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: two bicycles.

951
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: This is so safety.

952
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: It actually sounded well, it sounded like kind of like

953
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: music anyway. It sounds mostly like noise music, but like

954
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: proto noise music.

955
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

956
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: At one point Zappa he's plucking the bicycle spoke. Steve

957
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 2: Allen's playsing his nose like a kazoo like yeah. Right.

958
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: So the bit ends with Zappa playing the shwins one

959
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: right side up, one upside down, and he plays right

960
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: along with the house band and a pre recorded track

961
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: that he's messed around with. It included a woman singing

962
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: that he stole off the radio, so he's got like

963
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: a subtle FCC violation going on. He's all proud about that.

964
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: He slides that in. So then he and the band

965
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: they jam out on an improv right. So, now that

966
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: we got this last piece of the puzzle in place, Elizabeth,

967
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: i'd like you to close your eyes as I'd like

968
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: you to picture. I don't know if I want to

969
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: It's March twenty sixth, nineteen sixty five, and you are

970
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 2: in a recording studio apartment the air conditioning homes. There's

971
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: the sound of someone lightly snoring. It's late morning. You

972
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: are in the valley, as in the San Fernando Valley

973
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: in southern California, specifically Rancho Cucamonga, the place once made

974
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: famous in The Last mid Si Tree by comedian Jack

975
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: Benny when he had a running gag on his radio

976
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: show wherein voice actor Mel Blanc would play a train

977
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 2: announcer and he'd say train now leaving on track five

978
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 2: for anaheim A, Zuza and Coke. The city is technically

979
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: in San Bernardino County aka sam Burdu, about thirty five

980
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: to forty five miles east of downtown La there at

981
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: the foothills of the beautiful San Gabriel Mountains Amonga. Now

982
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: see that's how the joke when Elizabeth yeah, okay on

983
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: the radio anyway, which you would all know about, because Elizabeth,

984
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 2: you are a threat from the Department of Motor Vehicles

985
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: to revoke Frank Zappa's driver's license.

986
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 3: I'm a piece of paper.

987
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 2: Yes, let me correct that you are a framed threat

988
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: from the Department of Motor Vehicles to revoke his driver's license.

989
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: You hang on the wall and have been there for

990
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: some time. You're a bit dusty. Frank Zappa is a

991
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: twenty four year old musician with let's say eclectic taste.

992
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: Across the room from you is a framed photo of

993
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 2: Frank Zappa on the Steve Allen TV Show. You've stared

994
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: at that photo of Frank Zappa and Steve Allen and

995
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: the shwins for a some time. The calm of this

996
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: morning is, though, is broken by a loud, heavy knocking

997
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: on the door. The storing man rouses polton clothes and

998
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 2: walks over the door. It's a client. It's his most

999
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: recent client to use car salesman. He asked if the

1000
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: audio sex tape is ready. Frank Zappa yawns and then

1001
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: invites the used car salesman into his recording studio apartment.

1002
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: He tells the client to get comfortable as he sets

1003
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: up his reel to reel to preview the audio sex

1004
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: tape for the used car salesman. You watch the client

1005
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: as he eyes the decor of the apartment, which includes

1006
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: you the framed threat. There's also some pop art scattered

1007
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: about on the walls. Near you, there is a Zappa's

1008
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: divorce papers also framed, along with framed rejection letters from

1009
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: record labels. It's your crew on the floor though a

1010
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: top oriental in persian rugs or musical instrument stacked brick

1011
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: a brac everywhere. Electric guitars, a drum kit, a piano,

1012
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: multiple vibraphones. You watch the client as he eyes this

1013
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: sleepy Frank Zappa. He asks about the customs made sex tape.

1014
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: Zappa asks him some questions. Once he's satisfied with his answer,

1015
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: Zeppi says, I guess you're all right. He gets up

1016
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: and walks over to his reel to reel and he

1017
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: hits play you the used car salesman and Frank Zappa

1018
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: listen to the recording. Here's bed squeaks, there's some grunting

1019
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: and heavy breathing. There's also what you would call it

1020
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: blue language. Zappa stops the tape. He asks what the

1021
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: used car salesman thinks? I is that what he was

1022
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: looking for? The client nos, this is exactly what he wanted,

1023
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: but Zappa says he also made a film of the

1024
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: event and would throw that in for three hundred dollars

1025
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: on top of the original one hundred bucks. Oh my god,

1026
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: now the used car salesman has more than he wanted.

1027
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: He signals his partners with the speed of a predator.

1028
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 2: Cops rush into the recording studio. The used car salesman

1029
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: identifies himself as Sergeant Jim Willis from the Vice Squad

1030
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: of the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department. Two other Sheriff's

1031
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 2: detectives and a detective from the Ontario Police Department also

1032
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: identify themselves as a framed threat from the DMV. You

1033
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: are not surprised at all that Frank Zappa is once

1034
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 2: again in trouble with the law. Some of the officers

1035
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: who arrested Frank Zappa they also had amazing names. The

1036
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 2: operation was overseen by Lieutenant Ed Noon and Sheriff Frank Bland.

1037
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, exactly, they're like sixties TV show pop names right,

1038
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 2: completely tell to Sheriff Frank Bland, So what happens now

1039
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: that he's busted for making porn that's actually fake porn?

1040
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: But since it's audio, how do you prove that it's

1041
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: fake porn? Also, it's nineteen sixty five, Yeah, so what

1042
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: gives Elizabeth.

1043
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1044
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: Well. Before zapp I ever got to court, the cops

1045
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: attempted to try him in the court of public opinion.

1046
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: The local papers were tipped off about the bust. Yeah,

1047
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: the next day and the daily report, the local paper,

1048
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: a news story scandalized the joint with this accounting of events,

1049
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: and I quote vice squad investigators stilled the tape recorders

1050
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: of a free swinging a go go film and recording

1051
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: studio here Friday and arrested a self styled movie producer

1052
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: and his buxom, redheaded companion.

1053
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 3: So, yeah, by the way, it's a musical mad scientist.

1054
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: Did you know Frank Zappa is his government name, it's

1055
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: not his stage name. I found that out. So Zappa

1056
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: and Lorraine Belcher they are both charged with quote conspiracy

1057
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: to commit pornography. Zappa total gentleman. He was like, keep me,

1058
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: let Lorraine go free. He arranges the Baylor out right.

1059
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 2: Doesn't have much money though, so he has to contact

1060
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: people and he arranges. He's got some royalties coming for

1061
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: a song that he penn called Memories of Almnte. So

1062
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: the song was his douo optune. He co wrote for

1063
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: a group called the Penguins. Right. The song apparently was

1064
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: doing numbers, so he uses that money to free his girlfriend. Now.

1065
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: His other big tune at the time was a song

1066
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: called Streets of Fontana. You know this one, Elizabeth? How

1067
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,959
Speaker 2: about you? Producer Dave? Do you know this one? Got

1068
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: nothing mind? If I favor you with.

1069
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: A verse, just a verse, ye please?

1070
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: As I was out sweep in the streets of Fontana.

1071
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: As I was out sweep in Fontana one day I

1072
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: spied in the gutter of old moldy Banana and with

1073
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: the peeling, I started to play Hey.

1074
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1075
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 2: So the gentleman, outlaw and soon to be sex offender

1076
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: sits in the county jail and he gets his day

1077
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: in court. He takes the charge and he pleads no

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Speaker 2: lo contendre okay, right. His sentence is a six month sentence,

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00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: but most of the sentence gets suspended. He winds up

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00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: doing only ten days in jail. When he comes out

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Speaker 2: of lock up, Frank Zappa is a change man. He's

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00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: like ten days inside, right, so, but he's not completely changed.

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00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: He's still Frank Zappa. But he does say this, and

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00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: I quote, you can't appreciate what a jail is and

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00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: what goes on there unless someone sticks you in one.

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00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: In a way, I guess I have to thank Detective

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00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: Willis and the evil machinery of the San Bernardino legal

1088
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: system for giving me a chance to see from that

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00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 2: perspective what the penal system is like in this country

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00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: and how ineffectual and how stupid it is. All right, Zappa?

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00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 2: So the real cost to him was his lost music

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00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: and other recordings, because when the local authorities ran through

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00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: his plays and they rifle through all his stuff during

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00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: their raid, the cops seized about eighty hours of recordings.

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00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: Can you guess how many hours that he gave him back?

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00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 3: Zero? Thirty, thirty? Yeah, I wonder whatever happened fifty hours?

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00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: Who knows? Right that? The surprising result though, out of

1098
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: all of this, was that, since he was now a

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00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: convicted felon, Frank Zappa wasn't eligible for the draft. His

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Speaker 2: one thousand dollars fake audio sex tape kept Frank Zappa

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Speaker 2: out of Vietnam.

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Speaker 4: Wow, I'm crazy, And he couldn't wear bolt profess exactly.

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00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: So that's how ridiculous takeaway here, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, well, I.

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Speaker 4: Think it's funny that he was playing at a club

1106
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 4: in the valley, right, and then today the San Fernando

1107
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 4: Valley is like the epicenter of porn production.

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00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, just he was way ahead of it.

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00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 4: My other ridiculous takeaway, thank you for asking, is don't

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Speaker 4: walk in the rain in New Jersey.

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Speaker 3: What's your ridiculous takeaway?

1112
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Speaker 2: Now, I'm not going to pretend you're trying to show

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00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: off for the intern, like, oh, I'm so I normally

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00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: do this, That's what I do. I don't even have

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00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: one ready because you don't ever ask. No, Okay, I'll

1116
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: just prep one out. So I looked on the Google

1117
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: maps because I know you like it, right. And now

1118
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: that new place, the place that was his recording studio,

1119
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: it's a tattoo shop and it just looks like exactly

1120
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: the same. So I bet some similar stuff is going

1121
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 2: down in that same location.

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00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: Oh let's go.

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00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 2: Hey, you in the move for a talkback? Yeah, producer Dave,

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00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 2: could you pleasure us without talkback?

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Speaker 5: No?

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00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 6: I can't do that, but I will play one for you.

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Speaker 5: Come.

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00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: Well, there's a family show Man.

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Speaker 6: It goes a little something like this.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh my god, super.

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00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 3: I like cheat.

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Speaker 5: Hi, guys, just finished listening to the gym trafficking episode,

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00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 5: and I just wanted to add a few things. Elizabeth,

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00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 5: you did say mahone in counting correctly, so way to go.

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00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 5: I'm also a Youngstown State alumni. My mom used to

1136
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 5: babysit his daughter when she was really little. And also

1137
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 5: the funny thing is his wife used to be a hairstylist,

1138
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 5: so she easily could have fixed the.

1139
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 3: Mop on his head.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for all you do, keep up the great work.

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00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 3: Love the show.

1142
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 4: Yes, I need a certificate that I actually said something correct.

1143
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: Dude, silver star, gold star for you.

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00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 3: A little bit star for me, and then there are

1145
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: all the other intel in there. I love background. Yeah,

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00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: so that was fantastic.

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00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: Keep them coming, yeah. Well, as always, you can find

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Speaker 2: us online Ridiculous Crime, Twitter, Instagram, such and such and

1149
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: so forth. Also, though, do hit up our website. That

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Speaker 2: one's fun Ridiculous Crime dot com and we obviously we'd

1151
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: love you talk back, so please leave those You got

1152
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,160
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1153
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: then start talking at us. Email us if you like

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Speaker 2: a Ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com, and as always,

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Speaker 2: thanks for listening. We'll catch you next trime. Ridiculous Crime

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00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,839
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