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Speaker 1: Hey y'all, what's up. It's Laura Rosa and this is

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Speaker 1: the latest with Laura Rosa. This is your daily dig

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Speaker 1: on all things pop culture, entertainment, news and all of

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Speaker 1: the conversations that shake the room.

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Speaker 2: Baby.

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Speaker 1: Now today we are going to get into a conversation

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Speaker 1: that is shaking the room. The Internet, the comments, all

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Speaker 1: of the things. Kecky Palmer, our girl is sugarl Key

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Speaker 1: Key Palmer. Kecky Palmer has just unveiled a new series

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Speaker 1: via her digital network called Key TV. And this network,

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Speaker 1: you know, works with a ton of black producers, directors,

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Speaker 1: writers to bring series and you know, just different pieces

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Speaker 1: of content and art to the world. This week, she

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Speaker 1: premiered a trailer for a series called Southern Fried Rice

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Speaker 1: from her Key TV network. And when I tell y'all,

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Speaker 1: it is getting drag I have seen. To be honest

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Speaker 1: with y'all, I wouldn't have even known that this series

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Speaker 1: dropped unless I saw all of the backlash about the

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Speaker 1: series itself. And granted I knew Keky Palmer had key TV.

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Speaker 1: I follow key TV on Instagram, but y'all know, the

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Speaker 1: algorithm don't be algorithming sometimes, so you might not see

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Speaker 1: every post and everything.

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Speaker 2: So I hadn't heard of this series.

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Speaker 1: I just knew she was, you know, doing stuff over

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Speaker 1: there in that space because I have a person, because

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Speaker 1: I have a person that I know, a writer, a director, fire,

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Speaker 1: just creative, a black woman named Nikiah Stevens, and I have.

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Speaker 2: Known her and just in a work setting for some years.

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Speaker 1: I actually interviewed her back in like twenty twenty, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one for a short series that I had. It

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Speaker 1: was during the pandemic, when you know, all the corporates

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Speaker 1: a digital series at TMZ called Piece of the Pie,

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Speaker 1: and it was pretty cool. I got a chance to

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Speaker 1: like go out and find different creatives, so directors, casting directors, producers,

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Speaker 1: executive producers, actors, musicians, painters, you know, whatever, whoever I

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Speaker 1: thought was like dope fire at the time that had

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Speaker 1: I admired. I got the platform them, so I did

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Speaker 1: an interview with Nikia Stevens then, which is when I

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Speaker 1: sis is dope, and I admired the fact that everything

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Speaker 1: she was doing, like she has a production company called

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Speaker 1: Damn Wright Originals. And I'm telling you guys about Nikia

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Speaker 1: Stevens because Nikiya Stevens is actually the executive producer of

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Speaker 1: this series Southern Fried Right. She works with Kiki Palmer

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Speaker 1: and the team over there at key TV. One of

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Speaker 1: the things I admired was her company. So she had

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Speaker 1: a company called Damn Right Originals that was doing so

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Speaker 1: much in the digital storytelling space, and that's always been

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Speaker 1: who don't know, Ester Ray used to platform smaller series

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Speaker 1: That's a great place for Niki to be at period.

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Speaker 1: And black creatives don't get, you know, the ample opportunities,

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Speaker 1: thought it was dope. So fast forward, I start to

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Speaker 1: seeing people on Instagram, on x and on threads pissed

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Speaker 1: Kekey Palmer's teasing that Jonathan Major's episode for her talk

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Speaker 1: like sometimes with Kekey Palmer, like she gets unfair criticism

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Speaker 1: Pedestaled and polished, and not even like because it's something

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, let's have a conversation about this.

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Speaker 1: So the series Southern Fried Rice from KEYTV is a

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Speaker 1: And I will say the HBCU is a fictional HBCU,

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Speaker 1: So they made sure that the HBCU was fictional, which

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Speaker 1: because yeah, that's important. But so she goes to HBCU

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Speaker 3: All right, say, geez, okay, I know I got something

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Speaker 3: explaining to do. Let's start with the elephant in the room.

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Speaker 3: Yes I'm nation, Yes my family is black, and yes

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Speaker 4: This is Coco.

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Speaker 5: Cottage is.

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Speaker 4: Once you made this, once you imrest yourself in the

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Speaker 4: opportunities here, I'm sure that you will find w has

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Speaker 4: so much thoughtware.

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Speaker 3: I mean to her or not too.

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Speaker 4: He don't forget who you are, Coco bet girl Jackson.

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Speaker 3: For a lot of people, this is hard to understand,

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Speaker 3: but black culture is the only culture I know.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is set in a you know, present day time,

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Speaker 1: it's going into the conversations about privilege, identity, DEI, ScDs, relationships,

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Speaker 1: And it's a celebration of like you being you, and

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Speaker 1: like to Delawas State University. But yes, So these conversations

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Speaker 1: a few comments. So there's one comment under here that says,

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Speaker 1: in this current climate where they're snatching funding and literally

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Speaker 1: trying to erase our school, well, question Mark, we have

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Speaker 1: a responsibility to amplify our own stories and perspectives now

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Speaker 2: Question Mark? Is this not a bit tone Deafkiki?

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Speaker 1: And then another comment says, even if she grew up

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Speaker 5: Much of your time, but I wanted to chop it

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Speaker 2: For you to be in practice, for you.

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Speaker 5: To experience trial and error, and to take your projects

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Speaker 1: I'm now going to play for you guys what Nikiah Stevens,

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Speaker 2: You how I felt watching it.

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Speaker 1: I felt bad for the students that were on campus

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Speaker 1: and having to come behind me. And the reason why

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Speaker 1: is because I do think that there is a conversation

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Speaker 1: that we never ever have as black people because we

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Speaker 1: normally have to just shut up, put our head down,

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Speaker 1: and do the work because we are the minority and

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Speaker 1: not the majority. Your world and your life are just

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Speaker 1: different when you are surrounded by your people. The way

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Speaker 1: you talk, the way you hold your head, the way

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Speaker 1: you dress, the way you glow, everything is different. The

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Speaker 1: minute you bring people from outside of that, and no

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Speaker 1: matter where they've grown up, the type of family they've

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Speaker 1: come from, how much slang they know, how much hip

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Speaker 1: hop they know, anything, it's just different. You have to

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Speaker 1: pull your pants up and look and walk and talk

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Speaker 1: and posture yourself a different way.

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Speaker 2: Being on an HBCU campus.

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Speaker 1: The beauty of that you learn that right, You learn

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Speaker 1: how to navigate in the world and protect yourself and

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Speaker 1: keep yourself alive. But it's a reprieve, it's a breath

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Speaker 1: of fresh air. It is a comfort space because you

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Speaker 1: don't have to do it every day in your day

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Speaker 1: to day like you do in the world. Because the

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Speaker 1: world is looking at you and putting you behind the

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Speaker 1: eight ball all the time. That doesn't happen on your

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Speaker 1: HBCU campus. But instantly, when you begin to see others

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Speaker 1: that don't look like you in this space, you do it.

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Speaker 1: It's just a natural thing that we do. We call

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Speaker 1: it duality or our ability to code switch. But if

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Speaker 1: you think about how instantly you do that and how

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Speaker 1: you've been raised all of your life, if you're a

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Speaker 1: black person listening to this, to do that, it's exhausting

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Speaker 1: after a while. It is very exhausting after a while.

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Speaker 1: And it was great to be in a space where

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Speaker 1: I never had to feel that exhaustion. So I felt

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Speaker 1: bad for a lot of the students after me because

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Speaker 1: I'm like that feeling of never having to feel that exhaustion.

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Speaker 1: Even though they're going to be the majority versus the minority,

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Speaker 1: it's just going to be different.

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Speaker 2: So I get people's upset.

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Speaker 1: I also get the upset because then I'm one of

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Speaker 1: the people that believe that we don't get keep like

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Speaker 1: I think certain things should be kept for us. And

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Speaker 1: it's okay, Like I don't necessarily want to hear about,

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Speaker 1: you know, a non black person's experience at an HBCU

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Speaker 1: because to me, being at a HBCU and being the

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Speaker 1: black person who had to accept the non black person.

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Speaker 1: It's always like, well, why are you here? What are

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Speaker 1: you here for? And why can't this just be ours?

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Speaker 1: This has all of the makeup of everything that is

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Speaker 1: going to piss somebody off. And I actually hope that

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Speaker 1: every single person that has had something to say about

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Speaker 1: this series, both positive and negative, take the time to

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Speaker 1: watch it, because I think it's only fair. If you're

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Speaker 1: going to critique something, you need to know exactly what

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Speaker 1: you're critiquing and why. And we don't know that to

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Speaker 1: the full extent yet. We don't know kind of how

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Speaker 1: this story maps out. Don't know Naikia is super like personally,

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Speaker 1: but I know her work and I can speak to

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Speaker 1: her work enough to know that nothing about what she

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Speaker 1: has ever done and never put out into the world

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Speaker 1: was harming of us or for us and for our stories.

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Speaker 2: Ever that I've seen.

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Speaker 1: I want to give her, you know, the benefit of

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Speaker 1: the doubt, and watch it, get some full context on it,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll be back and have a conversation with

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Speaker 1: you guys. You know about what I think, and I'm

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Speaker 1: open to having a Kiya and key Key Palmer come

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Speaker 1: on the podcast and have the conversation. I think that

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Speaker 1: would be a dope episode as well, but I think

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Speaker 1: we got to give us some time. But I do

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Speaker 1: think though that this should be a lesson to all

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Speaker 1: creatives because what I right, I hope that when I

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Speaker 1: go watch this series, when you're gonna take a chance

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Speaker 1: like that and there's a shock factor like seeing a

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Speaker 1: non black person at a coveted black space like an HBCU,

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Speaker 1: you gotta really really really know what you're doing, not

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Speaker 1: even know what you're doing, because the kid knows what

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Speaker 1: she's doing, but you gotta really really really make sure

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Speaker 1: as much as you can because things are always miscontrued,

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Speaker 1: but as much as you can. You gotta make sure

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Speaker 1: that your art is laying as close to your intention

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Speaker 1: as it can be, and you're doing everything you can

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Speaker 1: to make sure you getting all your points acrossing you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Dotcha, I cross your t's if

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Speaker 1: you are the creator, because this is very sensitive to people.

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Speaker 1: For some people, HBC used is the only space they've

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Speaker 1: ever experienced that was okay for them to be them,

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Speaker 1: and then they went on into a world that was like, YO,

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Speaker 1: put your head down, I'm humble you real quick.

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Speaker 2: So it's very sensitive to us. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: So I get it again. Wanna watch the series. It's

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Speaker 1: via key TV. It is called Southern Front Rice and

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Speaker 1: I'll be back with an update once I watch.

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Speaker 2: This is the Latest with Laura La Rosa.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, y'all could be anywhere

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Speaker 1: with anybody having a conversation about these topics, but y'all

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Speaker 1: choose to be right here within me, lowriders. I appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: guys every single time, in every single episode.

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Speaker 2: I'm Laura l Rosa. This is the latest, and I

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Speaker 2: will catch you guys in my next episode. Oh and

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Speaker 2: please take it to the streets and the tweet you

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Speaker 2: call the treets outside we outside, we outside outside in tweet.

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Speaker 1: At me Laura Lo Rosa, l O R E N

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Speaker 1: l O r O s A everywhere. I want to

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Speaker 1: hear your thoughts on this. I want to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. I'll be back