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Speaker 1: It's the Daily Shown with your host, Michael Costas. Welcome
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Speaker 3: The Supreme Court blocks democracy, Republicans scramble over eggs, and
Speaker 3: dull Say Sloan creates a brand new holiday.
Speaker 1: Let's get into the headlines. Let's begin with.
Speaker 3: A debate over in vitro fertilization. Last week, the Alabama
Speaker 3: Supreme Court through the future of IVF into doubt by
Speaker 3: ruling that frozen embryos that are less than a tenth
Speaker 3: of a millimeter, by the way, are legally humans. And
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but if you could pass through a spaghetti strainer,
Speaker 3: you're not human. And now Republicans who've spent years and
Speaker 3: years insisting that every embryo is touched by God or
Speaker 3: suddenly saying, oh, we didn't mean in a way that
Speaker 3: makes us unpopular.
Speaker 4: All the GOP's top brass are now trying to scramble
Speaker 4: to get on the side of supporting IVF.
Speaker 5: The Republican Senate Campaign Arm jumped on the issue by
Speaker 5: sending out this memo on Friday urging that quote. It
Speaker 5: is imperative that our candidates aligned with the public's overwhelming
Speaker 5: support for IVF and fertility treatments. House Speaker Mike Johnson
Speaker 5: also came out in support of IVF treatment and called
Speaker 5: it a blessing for many moms and dads who have.
Speaker 1: Struggled with fertility.
Speaker 2: IVF is something that is so critical to a lot
Speaker 2: of couples.
Speaker 1: It helps them breed great families.
Speaker 6: Our country needs that.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's too far in the other direction. Okay
Speaker 3: did this guy? Did this guy just say breed great families?
Speaker 3: Are you trying to run a country or get us
Speaker 3: into the Westminster dog Show? This guy must really clean
Speaker 3: up at the nightclub. A yo, girl, Look you got
Speaker 3: those straight teeth and detached ear lobes. I want to
Speaker 3: genetically pass that on to my litter, you know. But
Speaker 3: you know what, you know, better late than never. So
Speaker 3: now that Republicans are on board with IVF, I'm sure
Speaker 3: they'll jump at the opportunity to pass a law to
Speaker 3: protect it.
Speaker 7: A Republican senator has blocked the passage of a bill
Speaker 7: to protect access to in vitro fertilization nationwide. Senator Sidney
Speaker 7: hind Smith and Mississippi objected to the measures approval yesterday.
Speaker 8: The billbif US today is a vast overreach that is
Speaker 8: full of poison pills that go way too far, far
Speaker 8: beyond ensuring legal access to IVF, it would legalize human cloning.
Speaker 8: It would legalize gene edited designer babies, and lit the
Speaker 8: federal ban on the creation of three parent embryos. It
Speaker 8: would legalize the creation of human animal charmeris.
Speaker 3: First of all, chimeras. I don't know how to pronounce
Speaker 3: that word, but I know it's not that. And secondly,
Speaker 3: you're not going to protect IVF because you're worried that
Speaker 3: someone might put like a human head on a giraffe's body.
Speaker 3: Why on earth would you want to stop that? That
Speaker 3: sounds awesome. I can be eating a tree right now.
Speaker 3: Republicans are treating IVF the way I treat reading books.
Speaker 3: I'm always like, oh, I'm going to read so many
Speaker 3: books this year. I love reading, But when it actually
Speaker 3: comes time to read, I'm like, not for me, you know.
Speaker 3: And to be clear, none of this stuff that that
Speaker 3: center was warning us about is real. They're just looking
Speaker 3: for excuses to ban IVF, which to me is crazy.
Speaker 3: Why would you want to criminalize one of the only
Speaker 3: times you can masturbate for a good cause. Trust me,
Speaker 3: I've tried jacking it for leukemia and people were not happy.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. I don't know about you, guys, but
Speaker 1: I eat food. Do you eat food? I really do
Speaker 1: ate food, But when I'm at the.
Speaker 3: Grocery store, I can never figure out which foods are
Speaker 3: actually healthy. You know, this one is low FAB but
Speaker 3: high in sodium. This one has vitamin C but also polymonofibers.
Speaker 3: Now I'm staring at ingredient labels until the store closes.
Speaker 3: I'm trapped inside. My wife finds a new husband to
Speaker 3: breed with. It's a mess, but luckily the FDA is
Speaker 3: coming to the rescue.
Speaker 9: The FDA potentially rolling out a new logo as soon
Speaker 9: as this year for companies to stam up on food packaging.
Speaker 9: They say it would clear any confusion on what products
Speaker 9: actually should be considered good for you. Right now, only
Speaker 9: three percent of foods are currently allowed to claim their
Speaker 9: food is healthy.
Speaker 3: Wait, but just three percent of foods qualify as healthy. God,
Speaker 3: please hope that fruit roll ups are in that three percent.
Speaker 3: God please the free coupshty percent. But yeah, the FDA
Speaker 3: is going to make a logo to help people choose
Speaker 3: healthy foods, which you know, good luck with that.
Speaker 1: This is America.
Speaker 3: It's a victory if we can get people to unwrap
Speaker 3: things before eating them.
Speaker 1: But I believe we.
Speaker 3: Do need a logo identifying healthy foods. I just don't
Speaker 3: think it should be one of these boring ass options.
Speaker 3: Am I trying to have breakfast cereal or do tax prep?
Speaker 3: If you want people to eat healthy foods, you got
Speaker 3: to make the logo look cool like Jordan holding broccoli.
Speaker 3: And finally, let's talk about a major update in the
Speaker 3: ongoing battle between Donald Trump and Karma.
Speaker 1: He's on trial.
Speaker 3: He's on trial right now for trying to overthrow the government,
Speaker 3: a pretty big faux paw. But recently his lawyers threw
Speaker 3: out a hail mary legal claim that says he's immune
Speaker 3: from being charged for anything he did while president, And
Speaker 3: now his buddies on the Supreme Court are saying.
Speaker 10: Maybe this morning the US Supreme Court handing Donald Trump
Speaker 10: the gift of time, the justices agreeing to decide whether
Speaker 10: the Republican front runner should be immune from federal charges
Speaker 10: because his attempts to reverse the twenty twenty election happened
Speaker 10: while he was still in office.
Speaker 1: We will never give up. We will never concede.
Speaker 10: In one page order, the High Court saying it will
Speaker 10: hear arguments in the case the week of April twenty second,
Speaker 10: but with no firm date for its final ruling, the
Speaker 10: prospect of a federal criminal trial being completed before the
Speaker 10: November election becoming increasingly unrealistic.
Speaker 9: Legally speaking, his strategy has long been to delay, delay, delay.
Speaker 7: Here he gets help in doing that from the highest
Speaker 7: court in the land, and there's nothing anybody can do.
Speaker 6: To stop it.
Speaker 3: I cannot believe this. This dude, he slipping out of everything.
Speaker 3: Is he some sort of human eel chimmera?
Speaker 1: You know, like you know he started this.
Speaker 3: He started his campaign with four different cases against him,
Speaker 3: and he's gonna run out the clock on all of them.
Speaker 3: There's the stolen documents case, he got a Trump friendly judge.
Speaker 3: The Georgia case has been completely sidetracked by two of
Speaker 3: the prosecutors fighting each other. Now, the January sixth case
Speaker 3: is getting delayed due to a legal theory that nobody
Speaker 3: thinks is legit except for maybe the judges he hired.
Speaker 3: The only case that might be finished before the election
Speaker 3: is the Stormy Daniel's case, And based on the way
Speaker 3: things are going, I bet that judge is gonna get
Speaker 3: stuck in a.
Speaker 1: Venus flytrap or something. I don't know.
Speaker 3: You think with so many cases against him, one of
Speaker 3: them would stick.
Speaker 1: But he's actually using.
Speaker 3: That to his advantage, saying he needs to delay the
Speaker 3: cases so he has.
Speaker 1: Time to prepare for the other ones.
Speaker 3: It's like when Arnold Schwarzenegger is getting attacked by two
Speaker 3: guys and he bonks their heads together and they're both
Speaker 3: out for the rest of the movie. For more on
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court, we go live to Washington, d C.
Speaker 3: With our very own Desi Leideck, Desi, election day isn't
Speaker 3: that far off.
Speaker 1: How soon do you think the Supreme Court could rule
Speaker 1: on this?
Speaker 11: Well, Michael, that depends when is election day?
Speaker 1: November fifth?
Speaker 12: They'll rule on November sixth. So this is purely political, No,
Speaker 12: it only looks entirely that way. But you have to
Speaker 12: remember how complicated this issue is. The Justices have a
Speaker 12: very difficult legal question to answer. Can the president break
Speaker 12: the law anytime he wants hard to say, hard to
Speaker 12: say you constitutionally speaking? Can he burn down the White
Speaker 12: House for insurance money? Can he set a bomb on
Speaker 12: a bus that will detonate if the bus goes blow
Speaker 12: fifty miles per hour? Can he stick his penis in
Speaker 12: a barrel of warm coffee beans that wholefood?
Speaker 11: These are not easy questions to answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, aren't they? Though?
Speaker 3: I mean to me, all these cases seem pretty open
Speaker 3: and shut.
Speaker 11: Okay, did you go to Harvard Law School? No? Well,
Speaker 11: I did to use their bathroom once.
Speaker 12: And because I have that legal background, I understand that
Speaker 12: these things take time. They're going to need two weeks
Speaker 12: to read briefs, another two to debrief, then you need
Speaker 12: a silent retreat from the briefs. You rebrief lots of
Speaker 12: stretching and hydrating, and then it's July, which of course
Speaker 12: is French American Heritage month, and that is very sacred
Speaker 12: to Justice Brett Kavanaugh.
Speaker 1: I think he's irish. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3: There has to be some way to get this decided
Speaker 3: before the election. Can't they work around the clock? Democracy
Speaker 3: is hanging in the balance.
Speaker 11: Okay, but what about the other balance? Work life balance,
Speaker 11: rind culture is killing all of us. I mean, look
Speaker 11: at me.
Speaker 12: One minute I'm reporting from the Middle East and the
Speaker 12: next I'm flying to DC to stand here in front
Speaker 12: of this very real Supreme Court.
Speaker 11: I'm exhausted. And that's all on.
Speaker 12: Top of my cardiology practice.
Speaker 1: You're a doctor.
Speaker 11: I used a lot of med school bathrooms.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 12: Look, The point is the justices are human beings like
Speaker 12: the rest of us, with full lives. They need time
Speaker 12: for things like being with their families, traveling in their Winnebago,
Speaker 12: keeping Donald Trump out of prison, playing golf.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, what was the last thing you said?
Speaker 11: Golf? They love golf?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Legal expert Desi lyidek everyone did, she'd say,
Speaker 3: when we come.
Speaker 1: Back, Duel Tay Solan will be joining me at the decks.
Speaker 1: Don't go away, you can get welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Daily Show.
Speaker 3: Today is the last day of Black History Months, So
Speaker 3: to get her thoughts, we turn to an actual black expert.
Speaker 1: Do We'll say Sloan, Hello, friends.
Speaker 4: Today is February twenty ninth, which is Leap Day and
Speaker 4: Black Women's History Day. And if you don't know that,
Speaker 4: it's because I just made it out. Why Because the
Speaker 4: rest of February is taken. Doctor King gets two weeks,
Speaker 4: the presidents get a three day weekend, and they even
Speaker 4: give a day.
Speaker 1: To a ground hall. What the hell is a ground hole.
Speaker 4: That's ninety like? Is that even a real animal?
Speaker 8: You sure?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 4: Just a big ass guinea pig with a good publicist.
Speaker 4: So I'm claiming February. So I'm claiming February twenty ninety
Speaker 4: for us. Yeah, why only one day every four years?
Speaker 4: Because you account for you know, the wage gap and
Speaker 4: your mom and m you know, the math works out. Okay,
Speaker 4: trust me, I carried the four and everything. But the
Speaker 4: day is almost over. So let's celebrate some black women
Speaker 4: as fast as we can.
Speaker 1: Okay, throw a clock on the screen.
Speaker 4: Wait, no, that that looks like a shot clock.
Speaker 1: Isn't the NBA? Now make it historical?
Speaker 8: Is that a cuckoo clock?
Speaker 4: Are you trying to say black women are crazy? But
Speaker 4: nerve the I'm gonna take get a gol Okay, just
Speaker 4: put up any clock. Oh Okay, I like her. She's
Speaker 4: black and she looks like she don't take no shit
Speaker 4: from nobody. Okay, let's celebrate some black women. Start the clock, Okay,
Speaker 4: Shirley Chisholm incredible congresswoman chosen her way into history by
Speaker 4: being the first black woman to run for president for
Speaker 4: a major party in nineteen seventy two. She spent fourteen
Speaker 4: years in Congress representing Brooklyn, and I mean Brooklyn Brooklyn,
Speaker 4: Spike Lee Brooklyn, not Lena Dunham Brooklyn. If you thought
Speaker 4: Biggie had a tough time making money, imagine going door
Speaker 4: to door in Bedstyd asking for campaign contributions. DONATIONUS, raise money,
Speaker 4: Dalnatious raise money. Y'all was off beating this all right.
Speaker 4: Listen next, doctor Shirley Jackson. Ooh another Shirlee, the first
Speaker 4: black woman to earn a doctorate from MIT. She helped
Speaker 4: innovate touches, horrible fax machines, and caller ID. She's the
Speaker 4: only reason long this is relationships work. So every time
Speaker 4: you use your phone, poor little WiFi out for your girl, Shirley.
Speaker 4: Next up, Missy Elliott for proving that black women can
Speaker 4: make a hit song while singing forwards and backwards. It's
Speaker 4: your finn of whipping you in and yet is how
Speaker 4: you're saying, Missy, we salute you, you salute we Missy.
Speaker 4: See that's backwards Okay, look at your girl, all right. Next, okay,
Speaker 4: seeing the White House, gass, I'm gon like habss. First
Speaker 4: female VP and one bad bike ride away from being president. Listen,
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, if Huffy Bikes really wanted a female president.
Speaker 4: Loosing some chains at the factory, y'all can make history.
Speaker 4: Hoppus aunt, Come on. Next, May Jamison, the first black
Speaker 4: woman in space in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1: What took so long? And that makes sense because in the.
Speaker 4: Nineties, black people were doing whatever they could to get
Speaker 4: the farthest away from the lapd. So you saying I
Speaker 4: could go to outer space while these cops say on Earth,
Speaker 4: oh I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take it. Come on,
Speaker 4: come on, let's go to the Little Coat. And the
Speaker 4: most amazing thing is that she came back. That's never
Speaker 4: a guarantee, but girl, wow, there's a black woman on
Speaker 4: family matters that went upstairs and never came.
Speaker 11: Back down again.
Speaker 4: Next, Lisa Leslie, a basketball legend who was the first
Speaker 4: woman to dunk in the NBA. That's right, she could dunk,
Speaker 4: which is way more impressive because when women.
Speaker 13: Do it, we do it with titties. Slows you down
Speaker 13: She changed the game.
Speaker 4: Like me, every time I play Uno with my five
Speaker 4: year old nephew, Drop four, Drop seventeen, Oot out, Hai,
Speaker 4: in your face, deckling.
Speaker 1: Next, hey's my mommy.
Speaker 4: Have everybody look at my mama. She's out there every
Speaker 4: day giving, serving, loving, and I'm i mean literally mothering me,
Speaker 4: literally mothering, and you know she made me.
Speaker 1: You're welcome.
Speaker 4: You know that got back. I'm surprised I was able
Speaker 4: to cover.
Speaker 6: On many people.
Speaker 1: That's okay.
Speaker 3: You know we can celebrate even more black women than
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 6: So that's not.
Speaker 1: Gonna be earth.
Speaker 3: Then duel say sloan everybody. When we come back, Rex
Speaker 3: Chatman will be joining me on the show.
Speaker 1: Don't Go Away, I was born. Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Daily Show.
Speaker 3: My guest tonight is a University of Kentucky basketball legend
Speaker 3: and an NBA shooting star who has written a called
Speaker 3: It's Hard for Me to Live with Me. Please welcome
Speaker 3: Rex Chapman, God buddy.
Speaker 6: Pat a right rite this book.
Speaker 1: You lay it out.
Speaker 6: You are.
Speaker 3: I know you from basketball, some people know you from
Speaker 3: social media. You have a podcast. In this book, you
Speaker 3: talk about your your addiction, your recovery. How difficult was
Speaker 3: it for you to write that.
Speaker 6: People have been telling me I should write a book
Speaker 6: for a long time. I never really understood why. And
Speaker 6: then Seth Davis, the guy who co wrote the author,
Speaker 6: who co wrote the book with me. I've known Seth
Speaker 6: a long time. He called me up. I had a
Speaker 6: level of comfort that I don't know that I had
Speaker 6: with a lot of other PEO people, and we started
Speaker 6: the process. We started it probably I was, I told
Speaker 6: somebody today, I think it was like two years ago.
Speaker 6: It was like four years ago, because about a year
Speaker 6: in SATs said, hey, man, I've got another project that's
Speaker 6: kind of time sensitive. Do you mind? I said, no,
Speaker 6: I don't like talking about this anyway, So take all
Speaker 6: the time you want. I said, sure, what is it?
Speaker 6: He said, well, it's sister Jean, who's one hundred and
Speaker 6: four years old. And I laughed. I said, that's the
Speaker 6: sweetest thing ever that you think I might outlive sister Gene.
Speaker 6: So anyway, there were.
Speaker 3: Man, I resonated with so much of this. You're incredibly honest.
Speaker 1: One of the.
Speaker 3: Things that jumped out at me was you broke the
Speaker 3: rules and oftentimes the law a lot before kind of
Speaker 3: the big bottom. I mean, there was cheating in school.
Speaker 3: There was cheating on your gun against the law, you know, right.
Speaker 3: There was driving with a suspended license. There was breaking
Speaker 3: tons of curfews, I mean every single break, rule breaker.
Speaker 1: But then it really seemed like it all crashed in.
Speaker 3: Twenty fourteen when you get arrested for stealing from an
Speaker 3: apple store?
Speaker 1: Is that right? No? Not you okay?
Speaker 3: But I mean, by the way, I didn't just bring
Speaker 3: you out here. Yeah, I'm asking a question that I
Speaker 3: should probably get to it. The perks of being an
Speaker 3: athlete and being a successful athlete, is that what allows.
Speaker 6: You to cut I think so just talking about it
Speaker 6: in the green room really with Larry Hughes, my assimon
Speaker 6: and Schuster guy. My last two years of high school,
Speaker 6: I have dyslexia, and I didn't know any of that though.
Speaker 6: I just knew higher math and science and all that stuff.
Speaker 6: I would sort of check out, like, how are you
Speaker 6: guys getting this? This is not easy? And then I'm
Speaker 6: being told it's kind of common sense, and I just
Speaker 6: kind of I quit. I'm not going to be a
Speaker 6: math teacher. Why do I need to know this? And
Speaker 6: so that was and then I cheat. But my last
Speaker 6: two years of high school. I just left school early
Speaker 6: after lunch, and because I was a good basketball player,
Speaker 6: like even in high school, Well, they can't afford to
Speaker 6: sit me, right, what kind of craziness is that? But
Speaker 6: I left and the only time I got in trouble,
Speaker 6: assistant principal called me in one day after school. For
Speaker 6: two years, I've done this, and I thought I was
Speaker 6: in trouble, and he said, listen, Rex, I don't mind
Speaker 6: you going home after lunch, but don't be washing your
Speaker 6: car out there when the school buses are coming by.
Speaker 3: This also shows how good you were at basketball well,
Speaker 3: because you know, maybe I could put up seven points,
Speaker 3: but if I skipped school, they're like, hey, cost, you're
Speaker 3: not that good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, man, you played tennis, and you played at
Speaker 6: a very high level going and playing you know you did.
Speaker 6: He really did. He went to Illinois and played tennis.
Speaker 6: And any body that goes to college and plays a
Speaker 6: sport Division one, Division two especially, that's all your time,
Speaker 6: that's right. I didn't really have the I didn't have
Speaker 6: probably the capacity for the school part of it, but
Speaker 6: I was having to go every day, and I remember
Speaker 6: sitting in because it takes all your time, and for me,
Speaker 6: back in the day. We can only play basketball like
Speaker 6: three four hours a day by rule. And so I'd
Speaker 6: be in a Geography of Kentucky class sitting there.
Speaker 1: It's such a complicated.
Speaker 6: And and I'd be sitting there and thinking, well, Reggie Miller,
Speaker 6: Clyde Drexler, Michael Jordan, Ron Harper, all these guys are
Speaker 6: working out right now, and I'm stuck in this class,
Speaker 6: and it's my only avenue to get where they are,
Speaker 6: and I have to do what is being told. You know,
Speaker 6: probably cheating on my tests weren't the best thing, but
Speaker 6: I only did that once.
Speaker 1: But as I read this, it, man, you worked hard.
Speaker 1: You know, you were you know you were going.
Speaker 3: I was nice, but yeah, but you were getting a
Speaker 3: key to the gym at night and having you and
Speaker 3: your buddy and having rebound for you. I mean you
Speaker 3: you might have been a rule breaker.
Speaker 6: That was the more thing that I had. That was
Speaker 6: the only thing I felt like I could control. And no,
Speaker 6: I worked at it. I was obsessed by it. I
Speaker 6: told someone earlier. I used to wake up at midnight
Speaker 6: on the East Coast. Yeah, I'd fall asleep, wake up
Speaker 6: just in a sweat, thinking my guy, Gerald Madkins somebody
Speaker 6: I know out in La my grade. It's at the
Speaker 6: park right now, it's nine o'clock. I need to do
Speaker 6: some push ups. Let me go run a mile. I'll
Speaker 6: come back and go to bed like obsessed like that.
Speaker 6: Somebody's working harder and I can't allow that.
Speaker 1: So that same.
Speaker 3: Level of commitment, that stubbornness, that anxiety over working, How
Speaker 3: do you does that help you in recovery or away?
Speaker 3: Is it like is it hard to go to the
Speaker 3: cover because I'm a bad mother.
Speaker 6: I can beat this.
Speaker 1: I know I can beat I.
Speaker 6: Think that's probably the mindset that got me there, right.
Speaker 6: You know, I for sure went through, you know, very
Speaker 6: first when I started taking vic itin or oxy contin.
Speaker 6: I just remember one day, very vividly, thinking, oh can
Speaker 6: I cuss?
Speaker 1: Can cuss? I think already?
Speaker 6: Can I say? Okay? I thought to myself, off ship, No,
Speaker 6: I thought you played against Michael Jordan' I've heard it all.
Speaker 6: But I was thinking all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 6: I was taking this medicine and was saying take it
Speaker 6: once every whatever, all this and where I'm making that call.
Speaker 6: All of a sudden one day it just flipped where
Speaker 6: that medicine was telling me when to take it, and
Speaker 6: for I know it. Oh, I was only supposed to
Speaker 6: take three today. Now I'm to four, and now I'm
Speaker 6: to five. And then I'd get to seven or eight
Speaker 6: and I go, this is an issue, man, and I'd
Speaker 6: cut it down to four or five and then guess what,
Speaker 6: maybe an argument or whatever and now and then that
Speaker 6: was from the time I was fifteen or sixteen year old, though,
Speaker 6: I started having some depression and whatnot and really started
Speaker 6: coping that way then because I didn't know how to cope,
Speaker 6: I would, well, I would sneak off to the racetrack
Speaker 6: all the time, bed horses. That was what my dad
Speaker 6: and I always did. I just thought it was normal.
Speaker 3: He talks a lot about in this book, you know,
Speaker 3: not just the pills, but also a horse.
Speaker 8: Ray.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I liked basketball. I love thoroughbred racing.
Speaker 3: So and the only horses these people know are the
Speaker 3: ones in Central Park.
Speaker 6: I like those.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about because as you're talking, and you know,
Speaker 3: you discuss before games in high school, you always would
Speaker 3: vomit and yeah as a nerve, and then but then
Speaker 3: you also talked about how your dad, who was a
Speaker 3: basketball coach, would do this as well.
Speaker 6: See this wasn't Yes, yes, yeah. He used to be
Speaker 6: a coach and I would be in his locker rooms
Speaker 6: before games and he'd give his pep talk and they'd
Speaker 6: go in the restroom, stick his fingers down his throat
Speaker 6: and throw up, and a lot of times it was
Speaker 6: dry heaves and I just hear him in there. But
Speaker 6: that was how you got ready for a game. I
Speaker 6: don't know if he did that when he played. I
Speaker 6: just know he did it. We never talked about it.
Speaker 6: But then I started doing it like well, I did
Speaker 6: it out of nerves. He brought his whole team to watch,
Speaker 6: like a third grade game of mine. I didn't know
Speaker 6: they were coming. I went out on the court, puked
Speaker 6: everywhere at mid court, I mean big throw up, and
Speaker 6: they cleaned it up. I felt like Superman. After that,
Speaker 6: I was ready to go. And from that moment, I
Speaker 6: was a regular puker. I puked every single game from
Speaker 6: third grade till my second or third year in the NBA.
Speaker 6: And then I was just like and I would stick
Speaker 6: my fingers down my throat. If I was playing bad,
Speaker 6: one of my teammates might be like, bro, did you
Speaker 6: stick your fingers on my throat? Go in there and
Speaker 6: throw up. But I'm reading this and I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy. This is anxiety, man, And it's.
Speaker 3: Also your dad had a similar situation. And when did
Speaker 3: you face that?
Speaker 6: When out of rehab the last time twenty fourteen. I've
Speaker 6: been cleaned for nine years. I'm not the model. I
Speaker 6: smoke marijuana. I yeah, but I used medical marijuana. I
Speaker 6: have a cores liked from time to time. Nine years
Speaker 6: clean from opioids, I think I really started delving. I hit.
Speaker 6: I was broke. I was broken. I'd embarrass myself, my family,
Speaker 6: my kids, my ex wife, all of my friends and
Speaker 6: my friend's kids that looked up to me. I felt like, man,
Speaker 6: if you're going to live, you better start tackling some
Speaker 6: of why you do the things you do.
Speaker 1: Your dad is in here a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, tough on you. I mean, one time you scored
Speaker 3: forty points, you come home. Dad's gonna like me. And
Speaker 3: he was mad that he didn't play better defense. And
Speaker 3: I played collegiate tennis.
Speaker 8: My dad.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I think, you know, if you would have been
Speaker 3: harder on me, I could have been a better pro.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, well, which one is it?
Speaker 3: I don't want that, but I also wouldn't mind me
Speaker 3: a couple more bucks playing tennis, right, So what's.
Speaker 1: The balance, dude, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know because, to be honest, like I never
Speaker 6: in my life my dad played professional basketball, he played
Speaker 6: college I never in my life, my whole life was
Speaker 6: on the floor with my dad playing basketball. He never
Speaker 6: rebounded for me. He never did any of that stuff. Also,
Speaker 6: I didn't want him to do that. I was focused
Speaker 6: on what I was doing. I was watching his teams,
Speaker 6: watching everything he did, listening to everything. I was absorbing it.
Speaker 6: And I think he knew that I was. I honestly
Speaker 6: think he knew that I would be too nice if
Speaker 6: and maybe fizzle out as a college player or whatever.
Speaker 6: He knew I had the talent. The problem is I
Speaker 6: did very much similar things with my own son, and
Speaker 6: he didn't have the same talent. Was way tougher than
Speaker 6: I was. But I treated him almost like my dad
Speaker 6: treated me. Sometimes I was better, but still I would.
Speaker 6: I think that's what we're all trying to do a
Speaker 6: little better than our parents. But it's a hard balance.
Speaker 6: And you know, becoming a professional basketball player was a
Speaker 6: dream come true, and that's the one thing my dad,
Speaker 6: like as it's complicated, I love him today. I appreciate
Speaker 6: everything he's done for me. My mom the same way.
Speaker 6: Are there some things I wish we'd have done differently? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Who's not that way?
Speaker 3: I mean, my mom's here, you know, and yeah, and.
Speaker 6: There's on and on black woman history.
Speaker 1: Now that's right. Yeah, And here's a list of things
Speaker 1: she should have done better. That's a job.
Speaker 3: That's a joke, you know, Mom, What do you have
Speaker 3: to say to people listening who might be middle school
Speaker 3: phenom in a sport, or high school phenom and a sport.
Speaker 3: Everything's in front of them, it seems like, and there's
Speaker 3: a reality of this that you have lived. What do
Speaker 3: you say to somebody who might be in the throes
Speaker 3: of addiction right now?
Speaker 1: Do you have a message or a thought?
Speaker 14: Man?
Speaker 6: I guess it's really just find somebody to talk to.
Speaker 6: I had so much pride that, you know, I was
Speaker 6: this King Rex type thing, this image, and I had
Speaker 6: so much pride about not living up to anything. I
Speaker 6: had all these secret, you know, insecurities, and you know,
Speaker 6: your pride can get in the way a lot, and
Speaker 6: once you let that move a little bit, then you
Speaker 6: can start to see a light at the end of
Speaker 6: the tunnel. However, I also recommend therapy. If I would
Speaker 6: have if I'd have been able to have therapy, like
Speaker 6: as a teenager eighteen nineteen years old, I feel like
Speaker 6: I don't know if it would have changed anything, but
Speaker 6: I know it I had a better shot of managing
Speaker 6: the stuff that goes along with being a popular and
Speaker 6: kind of famous athlete.
Speaker 1: That's a great message. Thank you for this book. I
Speaker 1: loved it. You're the man, Rex Chapment. Everybody, it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to live with me. It's available now, Rex Chapman.
Speaker 1: We took a quick break, but wright back after this
Speaker 1: got shop for tonight now here. It is the moment
Speaker 1: of zou.
Speaker 14: Nobody explained to me how allowing millions of people from
Speaker 14: places unknown, from countries unknown, who don't speak languages we
Speaker 14: have languages coming into a country, we have nobody that even.
Speaker 8: Speaks those languages.
Speaker 14: They're truly foreign languages. Nobody speaks them.
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