1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Oh John, Oh, Sam, I love you so much. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: I love you almost as much as the great stories 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: that are about. 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: To come up. 5 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 3: And you know what, I love equally as much as 6 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 3: the two minutes of sponsor is coming up, because they 7 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 3: support the show and make sure that we will have 8 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 3: our happily Ever after my. 9 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: Ex boyfriend cheated with his sister. 10 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 4: What and uh clearly the Figger warning here for intimate 11 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 4: familial relations and general family dysfunction. So I was with 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 4: this bloke for three years, and for months I had 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 4: this gut feeling he was cheating. He'd stay up late 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 4: at night on his phone, nothing weird in itself, but 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 4: he would literally turn his whole body so I couldn't 16 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 4: see his screen, like lying there facing me but holding 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 4: his phone away proper shady. I asked him about it, 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 4: but he'd always get super defensive. By the way, This 19 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 4: comes from user extension blue Jay ninety three on the 20 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 4: r slash Charlotte Dobray YouTube subreddit, and if you want 21 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 4: to submit your own stories, go to the r slash 22 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 4: Okay Storytime subreddit. 23 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm Dakota, I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and we're here to 24 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: give good advice goofully. But we don't have all the answers. 25 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: We only know what we'd do, So tell us what 26 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: you would do in the comments. 27 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: I've never been through this, and I'm scared. 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't have any siblings. 29 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 3: Oh I don't have any Sturblay. 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: Can't possibly go through this, Op says, so yeah. 31 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: One night I thought forget it and went through his 32 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 4: phone while he was in the shower. This man was 33 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 4: on every dating app going sliding into random girls DMS. Honestly, 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 4: it was pathetic. Half the girls left him on red 35 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: and the rest gave him one word replies. He looked thirsty. 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: I was honestly embarrassed. I'd even touched him. 37 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: Let alone. 38 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 4: Wasted three years, and I benned him off the next day. 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 4: Fast forward six months, I'm minding my business. A mate 40 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 4: sent me a random video she found in some group 41 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: chat and said, OMG, look at this grim crap. I 42 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: click it and see some random couple. 43 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: Going at it. I'm about to scroll past, but then 44 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: I notice the tattoo. 45 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: Wait, I'm sorry, your friends just sending you. 46 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: Corn, but it's like where they even have how? Why? 47 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: Why is that floating around? 48 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: Why is that floating around? 49 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 5: Your friends don't send you any Thank. 50 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: Goodness knows, Sophia just admitted her and all her friends 51 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: are super boring. 52 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 5: You're my friend. 53 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: You We're all boring. Dunk dunked on because. 54 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: We know what the rice purity test was. 55 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 5: Dakota would pass that with fly colors, you would probably 56 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 5: get a hun knew it was. Of course, I know 57 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 5: what it was because I'm Asian. 58 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: What what someone's crossing off a very unfortunate box on 59 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: the rice purity test? 60 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: On this toy? So true, my blood ran cold. I 61 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: knew that tattoo. I zoom in and then I see 62 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: the girl's face. 63 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: It's his sister. 64 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 5: Oh man, are you really going to say it? This? 65 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 5: This is that's the story where we actually say it. 66 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: Eh. 67 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 5: He probably kissed his sister. 68 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: That's I said it like that, I know. 69 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 4: I swear to god, I almost threw my phone. This 70 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: man was with his own sister. I did a bit 71 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: of digging because I thought, surely I'm losing my mind. 72 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: But nope, apparently their whole circle already knew what like 73 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 4: this was some open secret. 74 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: Ha ha. I'm sorry. The second I find out about that, 75 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: Hello police, ring ring Ring, Hello police? Is it illegal 76 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: and presumably the UK. 77 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 5: I can look it up. 78 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Don't kiss your sister, George Lucas. 79 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, I was playing Happy Families, planning our future, kissing 80 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: this man who. 81 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: Was literally with his sister. I felt physically ill. 82 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 4: Like I used to think being cheated al was humiliating, 83 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: but this is trauma on another level. 84 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 5: Is it like a specific tattoo that nobody else has ca. 85 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: Wh It's just that she even recognized his sister's face. 86 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: Somebody could have done the nick cage face off. 87 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: Well. 88 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: She also went and checked with his friends and family, 89 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: and it's an open secret. 90 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 91 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: Man, also pretty concerning. I want to know, like what 92 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: the age difference is between these siblings, because. 93 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, because there's life. They're both to fia a. 94 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: Lot of like genetic intimate. 95 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Old enough unviable to make a child. More. 96 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: My point is that a lot of those types of 97 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: relationships are not not necessarily not consensual, but they're not 98 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: always consdual. 99 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 5: So yes, it looks like our residents from the UK. Yeah, 100 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 5: did say it's illegal, but cousins can. 101 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: All right, folks, let's get through this. I feel like 102 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: I need bleach for my soul. Yeah me, too. 103 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 4: Now, can someone help me on what I should do 104 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: about this blow? Shall I tell his mom because I'm 105 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: still in contact with her, or. 106 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Do you think I should just leave it? 107 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: Don't just leave it. 108 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: You probably tell his mom. 109 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: Pile his mom if you have, If you're still in 110 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: contact with his mom, tell his mom, I hope, and 111 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: then if she knows, then go to the police. 112 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 5: If she knows and she's like, yeah, I love that 113 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 5: for them. 114 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: I love how close my children are. 115 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 5: We're a tight knit family. 116 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: Here to jail all of you. 117 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: Ah. So I'm already really pissed off. I got cheated 118 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 4: on and let him go easily off the hook. Does 119 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 4: anyone have any recommendations on how I can ruin his life? Sorry, 120 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: I'm a little evil. My recommendation is that vengeance is 121 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 4: bad for your brain. 122 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 5: His life is already ruined. 123 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: His life is already bad. 124 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: Just yeah, tell the relevant parties that. 125 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, hey found this information out. You can even 126 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: do it anonymously. Text his mom from a different number. 127 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: Comments comment number one. 128 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: Do not get involved in this in a way that 129 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 4: will come back to you or involve your name. If 130 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 4: you cannot be anonymous, then leave it alone. If it's 131 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: an open secret, then it will or has already gotten 132 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: back to other family members. Interfamilial relations are explosive and 133 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: extremely taboo. People react with such disgust, and rightly so. 134 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: It is entirely possible he will face real pushback and 135 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 4: will look to blame someone. Don't take that chance, especially 136 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 4: if his family already knows and has chosen denial. If 137 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 4: you can find a way to be anonymous, then go 138 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: for it. Just be sure you aren't breaking a law. 139 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: If not, the best revenge is just living well. Honestly, 140 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: if this is happening to me, I'm like, I tell 141 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: the mom and then I never speak to any of 142 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: these people ever again, lose all of their information, all. 143 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: Of their information and then I go to the front 144 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: and say, where did you get this? Why did you 145 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: send it? 146 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 5: By the way, why do the why does the circle know? 147 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 5: These friends know? 148 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, that's cool, let's just keep going coming. 149 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 4: Number two, Please do not send the video to anyone, 150 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 4: as this is classed as revenge coorn and has been 151 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 4: illegal in the UK for years. Update to address a 152 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 4: few things. The video was on an Instagram reel on 153 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 4: a bait account. It was up for a while and 154 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: my friend was sent it by another friend on a 155 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 4: group chat, and then it got sent to me. I 156 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: got asked why my friend wasn't freaked out, and yet 157 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: she was freaked out, which is why she sent it 158 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: to me. I've messaged the account and reached out, but 159 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 4: I've still not received a reply. The video got taken 160 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: down the day before yesterday. His sister is older by 161 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: about three years. I've met her and the rest of 162 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 4: his immediate family. I've met a few aunts, uncles, and 163 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: cousins at a wedding as well. He's extremely close to 164 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: his mom, typical mummies boy. 165 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: His dad has always been a bit of a weirdo. 166 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: I can't imagine this family's normal. 167 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 5: This can't be real. 168 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: I can't imagine this family is normal. 169 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 4: I'm not completely sure if his parents knew about it before, 170 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: but they definitely do now. The day after seeing the video, 171 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: I looked up his Instagram and saw it was taken down. 172 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: On the bit account post his at was being posted 173 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 4: all over and people were calling him a sister effer 174 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: and others were saying to remove the video. He ended 175 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: up either deactivating or deleting his whole account, and I 176 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: checked his TikTok, and that too was also taken down. 177 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 4: I know for a fact that he has seen this, 178 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 4: but after reading some of the comments you guys have left, 179 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: I'm not reaching out to this bloke or his creepy family. 180 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone knows. You don't need to. Also, I'm wondering 181 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: why Opie said she was still in contact with the mom. 182 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: Maybe like she thought the mom was nice, but now 183 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: it's like, oh, on further reflection, mom is. 184 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: A creep Sometimes when you realize family's down with this 185 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 4: kind of. 186 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 5: This is definitely down with the sickness. Yep. 187 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to do anything, Opee. Everyone knows. 188 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: I've been getting messages from our old mutuals and rumors 189 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 4: are spreading really quickly. I thought i'd speak to my 190 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 4: mom and a younger brother about it before they hear 191 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: from someone else. My brother said he's not surprised and 192 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 4: that he always was way too close to his sister. 193 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 4: And what my brother means by close is they were 194 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 4: always holding hands like a couple when they walked and 195 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 4: talked about weird topics that you wouldn't. 196 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: Speak to your siblings about. 197 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 4: For example, I remember this one time when we were 198 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: shopping for his sister's engagement party and her partner did 199 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: not come with us. When we were walking, he would 200 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: be in the middle holding both of our hands, and 201 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 4: I'm such an idiot I didn't speak up. I mean, 202 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: holding your sister's hand is not an identicator that you would. 203 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: Do something like that. 204 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 3: That's not Yeah, no, be honest, folks, Also like you, 205 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: what would you do? He's holding his sister's hand, and 206 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: you're like, hey, cut that out. 207 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're the weirdest. 208 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: Oh you're weirdo, cause now it's like, that's my sister, bro, 209 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: why are you being weird? 210 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 4: There were many times when his sister or mom would 211 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 4: do something weird, like making me sit in the back 212 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 4: of the car while they sat in the front seat, 213 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 4: or talking about his ex and how she was so 214 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 4: different from me. I'm not really a confrontational person, so 215 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: I would just let it go. And my ex would 216 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 4: never stick up for me. That's why I didn't really 217 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 4: fight him or argue much. When I found out. 218 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: He was cheating on me, I just left. One thing I. 219 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 4: Did find really weird about him is that when his 220 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 4: mom would stay over at ours, she would sleep in 221 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: the same room as us. Please don't judge me. I 222 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: do not know what was going through my head. For context, 223 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: we lived in a one bedroom flat and his mom 224 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: said she had never slept alone before and she's afraid 225 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 4: of being alone. So I told her she could sleep 226 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: next to me, but she refused, saying that I'm not family. 227 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 4: So she felt really uncomfortable sleeping next to me and 228 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 4: she would rather sleep with my ex her son. Now, 229 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 4: this is not a common thing in my family, so 230 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: I don't see this as normal. Please tell me what 231 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 4: you think. We ended up getting an old air mattress 232 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 4: out and letting her sleep in our room, right next. 233 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: To us on my ex's side. 234 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 4: Okay, you've never slept alone in your life, that's weird. 235 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm not letting that go. 236 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 4: I'm saying, excuse me, time for us to get out 237 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 4: of our comfort zone. 238 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: You're a big girl, you can sleep alone. However, the 239 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: only thing I will say I think OPE is latching 240 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: on to things that like now that we know the truth, 241 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 3: are obviously indicators. But the holding hands with sister quit 242 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: me normal. The sleeping in the same bed with the 243 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: mom because they didn't have other arrangements could be normal. Obviously, 244 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 3: knowing what we know they're not, but I feel like, 245 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 3: OHP's kind of being hard on herself, being like, I 246 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 3: don't know, I didn't see it like they did all 247 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 3: these things, and I feel like though all of those 248 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: things could have been normal if they weren't all freaks. 249 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 3: So don't beat yourself up, is what I'm saying. 250 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 4: Oh my brother was not shocked, but my mom was 251 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 4: shouting at me for telling other people about it. She 252 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 4: said that I'm poking my nose in other people's business 253 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 4: and I should stay out of it. 254 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: Kind of your business. Honestly. 255 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: She was a little mean about it, but I totally 256 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: get where she's coming from. She asked me if I 257 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 4: still love him. 258 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: I said no. She said, then you shouldn't care about 259 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: what he does. She's got a point, so fair enough. 260 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but also this is insane. 261 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah no, but I agree, cut your losses, move on 262 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: with your life. An ex who. 263 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: Did something like this, would you not be like you 264 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 3: will not believe what I just found out about my ex? 265 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 266 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: Of course I would, of course she would. 267 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 4: She also said not to reach out to anyone or 268 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: tell anyone that I dated him, because it would also. 269 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: Ruin my reputation. 270 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: But that's already kind of late because our pictures were 271 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: still up on his Instagram highlights and everyone knew that 272 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 4: we dated each other. 273 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: Rough it just. 274 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 5: Kind of ruined my Wednesday vibe. 275 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: Ah, why was this the first story? Man? 276 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 277 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: I mean, don't advertise that you dated this guy. You 278 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: could talk about it with the people that know that 279 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: you dated them. But I honestly, if this happened to me, 280 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: I'd be telling everyone I knew forever. 281 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 5: I don't know. I would be like, I don't want 282 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 5: to talk about you anymore. I don't want to talk 283 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 5: about that guy exactly. 284 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: So conversation starter. 285 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 4: Oh at the Great Icebreakers, Soovia instant about getting myself checked. 286 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: I feel fine. 287 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 4: Been almost seven months since I left, and I'm finding 288 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 4: it difficult to book an appointment. 289 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: With my GP. 290 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: They're always fully booked, but I will at some point 291 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: when I'm free. I work almost every day, so it's 292 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 4: a little difficult at the moment. I know this isn't 293 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 4: the update you guys wanted. You all wanted me to 294 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: send the video to his mom and have a revenge plan. 295 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: I didn't want no one. 296 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: No, I don't want that no one. People watched that. 297 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: People wanted you to send the video of her children 298 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: going at it. 299 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: You're probably crime doing that. 300 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 5: Whole game of thrown one crime. 301 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 6: Don't who I'm sorry who said send the video of 302 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 6: this mother's children going at it to them all. 303 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: Y'all move different, y'all are free. Okay, let's also just 304 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: keep going. We're gonna finish this story. 305 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: I want all of your Internet privileges revoked permanently, everyone 306 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 4: involved in this. 307 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 5: If I were a good friend, like I'm gonna warn you, 308 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 5: this is gonna scar. 309 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: You don't want to watch it. 310 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 5: It's one of those videos online that you never want 311 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: to see. You can't wash your eyeballs ever again. Yeah, 312 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 5: Da Coda knows those videos. 313 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: Anyway, there's a little lift. 314 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: I was all for that when I was angry, but 315 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 4: after reassessing the situation, I don't think it's a clever move. 316 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: Like I said, I live in the UK. 317 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 4: And it would be seen as revenge corn and I 318 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: could get into a lot of trouble with the police. Yes, 319 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 4: I could report it to the police, but like I said, 320 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 4: my mom had a huge go at me and said 321 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 4: it's not my place and not my business. I don't 322 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 4: think she would be happy if she found this post. Also, 323 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 4: if you're feeling bad for my ex, please don't. 324 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: He doesn't deserve it. 325 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: Why would I feel bad? 326 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 5: Who would feel bad for him? 327 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: One he cheated, but two with his sister. 328 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 5: He kissed his sister. 329 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: If the parents were in any way you know, knowledgeable 330 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: of this, then they should definitely be investigated. But anyway, 331 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: that's it. That's the end of that story. 332 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 5: I need saltine, no business. I have this and I 333 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 5: still don't feel anything. 334 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: Was it like, were they step siblings? Hopefully? 335 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 6: No? 336 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 5: No? 337 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: All right, let's do this. My ex asked me to 338 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: give her away at her upcoming wedding. 339 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: I'm the flowery oh Laurie. 340 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: Basically me thirty five male and my ex thirty six females. 341 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: Split up three years ago when we had been together 342 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: seven years, when she came out to me as a saffok. 343 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: At first, we were very rocky when we separated, but 344 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: as we shared custody of a dog together, we had 345 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: to stay civil. 346 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: Had to. 347 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: Over time, we became not just friends again, but in 348 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: my opinion, best friends again. 349 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: Lovely little co parenting fur baby. 350 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from deleted and if you 351 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: want to submit your own stories, go to the r 352 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: slash Okay storytime separate it. I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, and 353 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: I'm ke On, and we're here to give good advice goofly, 354 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: but we only know what we'd do, So let us 355 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: know what you do in the comments and OPI says, 356 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: when our dog passed away in the summer, we got 357 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 3: very close. Again, It's important to point out that we 358 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: never married, and we had both been married before, so 359 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: we said we were in no rush. She said she 360 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: was adamantly opposed to remarriage, whereas I said I was 361 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: not bothered by it, but would now rule it out. Well, 362 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: I think she meant remarriage to a man, really, presumably 363 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: to a man. 364 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: I thought she just wouldn't get married in general, because 365 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: divorce is just so hard. She wouldn't want to go 366 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: through that. Again. 367 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: Well, she's about to get married. 368 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: That's the plot of this, right, I know that. But 369 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: I guess my question is, how did you get that 370 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: conclusion that she would not remarry to a man. That's 371 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: what I just think, Like, because he's like, I'm not 372 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: gonna get married ever again, it's like they wouldn't get 373 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: married either. 374 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: Because she's getting married and she that she was Gothic. 375 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: I know that, but if someone makes oh got it, 376 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: oh sorry, I'm like our Facebook viewers, I'm not taking 377 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: your droop seriously. She's like, you know what, I'm gonna 378 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: try the woman thing now. 379 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: She met a new woman, thirty female last year after 380 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: two years of what she called her snoop face of 381 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: newly coming out. I have met her and she seems okay. 382 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: We get on, but we're not close, just civil. They 383 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: moved on quickly, though, moving in together after only seven months. 384 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: They are coming up to only you're together this month. 385 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: I have not found anyone yet. I've had flings and 386 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: a few one night stands, but I'm quite shy and 387 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: have anxiety issues despite being told I'm a good looking guy. 388 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 3: The other day, she asked me if we could have 389 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: a coffee, which I agreed to. She proceeded to show 390 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: me a diamond ring and said her girlfriend now fiance 391 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: proposed to her, and she said yes. 392 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: WHOA. 393 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: This took me by surprise, considering how opposed she was 394 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: while we were together again, she was sappix, so I 395 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: think she had other oppositions to your relationship. 396 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: Wait, is this put a joke now or not here. 397 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: I'll explained to you. She was in a relationship with 398 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: a man, yes, she realizes I'm not into men, yes, 399 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 3: and then gets into a relationship with a woman yes, 400 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: and then marries that woman and no, p's like, yes, 401 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: why didn't she want to marry me because she didn't 402 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 3: want to be in a relationship with a man at all? 403 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 2: Okay, but no, no budes much. Can I ask a question? 404 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 5: Yes, question answer. 405 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: She made a statement, I don't want to be married again. 406 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: Does that apply to both teams? 407 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: I think that she just said, Well. 408 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: She just said that because she was with the man 409 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: and realized, oh, I don't want to dude man. Yes, 410 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: I don't like you've got there. I don't like beards. 411 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm here now, he's there, I'm here here. 412 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: While I was taking it in, she said that as 413 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: her dad and her are estranged, he is religious in 414 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 3: him and her family disowned her when she came out. 415 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: She thinks I am the best man she knows, and 416 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: asked if I would give her away when they were married. 417 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: Because she used to call you daddy. 418 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 3: Oh, without thinking, I said, you must be kidding, No way. 419 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: I do not remember the exact words after that, but 420 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 3: it was a very awkward situation. We paid up and 421 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: left without hardly talking. She looked like she was crushed though, 422 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: and could not get her words out. That's kind of sad, 423 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: Like I, on the one hand, I understand why. I 424 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: hope he doesn't want to do this, but like she 425 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 3: clearly sees the relationship very differently that he does, because 426 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 3: it seems like he's still kind of seeing the relationship 427 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: as like this very important thing to him, which makes sense. 428 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: She went on a different journey. 429 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, She's like, Oh, I realized I was never really 430 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: in love with you, mm hmm, and oh I didn't 431 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: have that. After getting home, I received a very angry 432 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: phone call from her fiance, telling me what a piece 433 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 3: o crap I am for crushing her dreams and putting 434 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: a dampner on her big day. She said along the 435 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: lines of don't think you're coming to the wedding, and 436 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 3: I equally responded along the lines of, don't worry, love, 437 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: I wouldn't go anyway. Oh dang, y'all getting nasty, getting 438 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: nasty nasty. A few mutual friends and family of mine 439 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 3: that she still sees have wrung me or messaged me 440 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 3: saying they think I'm out of line and that they're 441 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: going to show their support. I've been ignoring them like 442 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: it is their business. Anyway. I personally feel crushed all 443 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: over again, like when she came out to me. I 444 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: feel like I was not good enough for her to marry, 445 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 3: but good enough to help make her big days special. 446 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: I do not seem and her regaining our friendship like 447 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 3: we had. I think even if we patch it up, 448 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 3: we will always have this over us. Am I wrong 449 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: for doing it? Should I have bit the bullet and 450 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 3: given her away? I think what is annoying me a 451 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: lot is that I consider what she did a big no. 452 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 3: Inviting an ex to a wedding is something I would 453 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: not do, and consider it a bit insensitive on her part. 454 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 3: Why does she, her fiance and others think it's okay? 455 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 3: And why does she get a pass on the basis 456 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: that she's a woman and marrying a girl. Uncles and 457 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 3: aunts of mine who divorce stayed cool with her exes 458 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 3: and later remarried never dreamed of asking exes to be 459 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: a part of and go to their future weddings. Why 460 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: should my situation be any different? 461 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: Okay, I see where he's coming from. 462 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 3: I think he is not over her. He hasn't been 463 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: in a serious relationship for three years. When she came 464 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: to him, instead of being polite and being like, hey, 465 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: you know, I'm not super comfortable doing that, he went, no, way, 466 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 3: that's great. Like he had this huge reaction, which was rude, 467 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: and now he's going on this thing like why is 468 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 3: it indifferent? Why is it different because she's marrying a girl. 469 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: It's different because you guys literally said you were best friends. 470 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 3: Her fiance is fine with it, and also she said 471 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: she wasn't attracted to men. 472 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 5: I think, Op, he's hanging out that note. Yeah, exactly, 473 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 5: he's still into her, still hanging out to the notion 474 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 5: like she didn't marry me. How is that possible? 475 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 476 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, why couldn't she marry me? 477 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: It's five hundred days of summer. 478 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 2: He's definitely not over her. And from her point of view, 479 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking in the movie or the TV show, 480 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: how about your mother? Yeah? How I think like Head 481 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: dated Robin but everyone was still friends or like New Girl. 482 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: You know, you can still date someone and be friends 483 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: and be close, but you can definitely season over by 484 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: the way he's like, you would never invite an extra wedding. 485 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not still seized. 486 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're not an ex to op anymore. You're 487 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: a best male friend. Yeah. She doesn't have a lot 488 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: of those in her life. 489 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 3: She even says she's like, I don't have a lot 490 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: of you know, good male figures. 491 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: Which confuses me on why he can continued the relationship 492 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: of friendship with me. 493 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 3: Exactly if you saw this as so like taboo, Yeah 494 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 3: that's the thing. I think that you are absolutely justified 495 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 3: and being like I'm not comfortable, yeah doing that, but 496 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: it could have done it more respectfully. And even if 497 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: your first thing was like no way, then you take 498 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: a minute and you go, I'm so sorry I reacted 499 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 3: that way. You asked me this really special thing, and 500 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 3: I am not comfortable, but I shouldn't have reacted like that. 501 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: Comment one strip away all the other stuff, and it 502 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: comes down to this. The woman who didn't want to 503 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 3: marry you and who broke your heart wants you to 504 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: come to her wedding and literally give her away to 505 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: someone else. You're allowed to say no comment to. I 506 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 3: would say any chance of reconciliation flew away as soon 507 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: as your ex decided to let her fiance and your 508 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: family members get involved and pester you about it. I 509 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 3: would also agree with that. I don't blame you for 510 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 3: saying no. Definitely could have been worded better, but she 511 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: should have talked to you more about it before just 512 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: telling everyone you're an awful person and making them mad 513 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 3: at you, Opie says. A cousin of mine even tried 514 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: to guilt me saying bye my actions, I was subconsciously 515 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: showing my internalized homophobia. I mean, WTF right? Also, that's 516 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: not what internalized homophobia is? Internalized homophobia? That would be 517 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 3: like homophobia. Oh, I don't know's I feel like that 518 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 3: doesn't make sense? Reply? I hate this logic. Ask them 519 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: to take their identity out of it completely. Ask them 520 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: would you be comfortable if your ex who broke your 521 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: heart asked you to give them away at their wedding 522 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 3: to someone new? 523 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 2: No? 524 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: So why should I treat her any differently because of 525 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 3: her identity? 526 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: Is their best friends? 527 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 3: You told us they were best friends. Comb and three. 528 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: From reading the whole thread, it's obvious that she sees 529 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 3: you Ope as a very dear and platonic friend. In 530 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: her mind. It's honoring the connection you have as friends. 531 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: Asking you to give her away. She does, however, obviously 532 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: not get at all how much the initial rejection of 533 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 3: the breakup and its aftermath have hurt you and still do. 534 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 3: I don't think he realizes this either. She's got up 535 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 3: in her own happiness and didn't think to consider perspective. 536 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: Nobody's trying to be an ale, but you both hurt 537 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: each other bad. Honestly, I'd say that since you have 538 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: not properly healed, you should consider if it's really healthy 539 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: to stay friends, to stay close friends, or if you'd 540 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 3: heal better on your own. Obviously you feel strung long. 541 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: I honestly think it's great when people start living for 542 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: you to themselves, but there is often a partner left 543 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 3: behind feeling tricked, and there is an update. I don't 544 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 3: really agree with all those comments. I agree with some 545 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: of them and parts of some of them, except for 546 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 3: that last comment. I think they were all leaving out 547 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 3: that he said that they were best friends. Yeah, and 548 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 3: I think that he is not realizing that he is 549 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: not over this relationship. 550 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: Definitely not man, But you're gonna apologize for saying the 551 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: word you said and not go to the wedding and 552 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: be on okay terms with Opie or your ex right, yeah, right, Opie. 553 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 3: I also wonder because he was saying that you would 554 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 3: never invite an X to a wedding, So is he's 555 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: not even going to go to their wedding? He's like, 556 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: don't now he's not. But before his friend asked oh 557 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 3: him to walk her down the aisle, was he not 558 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: even planning to go to the wedding. I don't think 559 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: he was, which is crazy because she was absolutely going 560 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: to invite him even if she wasn't asking him to 561 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 3: walk her down the aisle. Like, imagine your best friend 562 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: not going to your wedding. 563 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're hanging out with someone one on one regularly, 564 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 2: you're going to their wedding. Yeah, that makes them crazy. 565 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 566 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: The correlation doesn't make any sense at all. 567 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Update, I have lots of great advice, but one 568 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: was to write a letter to convey my feelings. I 569 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 3: was in the process of doing so when I got 570 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: a text from her yesterday asking if she could come 571 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: to my house in the evening so we could chat 572 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: about what went down and clear the air. I agreed, 573 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: and she came over. The first thing she did was 574 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: apologize for her fiance's behavior and for people pestering me. 575 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: She admitted that she was so upset when she got 576 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 3: home that afternoon that her partner freaked out and how 577 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: to go at me without thinking the others found out 578 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 3: because she has a WhatsApp group that she set up 579 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 3: to talk about her proposal, and she mentioned in there 580 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 3: that she was going to ask me, so people had 581 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 3: been messaging her on there to ask how she got on, which, honestly, 582 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 3: I feel like kind of takes a lot of the 583 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: you know, blame off her because that was the only 584 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: thing that I was saying that she was the a 585 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 3: hole for uh And she didn't even do it on purpose. 586 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: She was just like he didn't accept. She assured me 587 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 3: she's going to ask people on there to leave me alone. 588 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: Now you let me go first, And I said, basically 589 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: that I was so taken aback because of her stance 590 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: on marriage when we were together and the fact I 591 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: wanted to marry her so much. When she asked me, 592 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: I guess all the feelings I had when she first 593 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: came out and we separated came flooding back. She said 594 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 3: she could see where I was coming from, and admitted 595 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 3: in hindsight, she didn't really stop and consider my feelings 596 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 3: because she's so caught up in her happy little world. 597 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: She then said that the reason why she wants me 598 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 3: to not only be there is that she loves me 599 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 3: so much, and even though she's not into me spicily 600 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: or romantically, she still considers me her soulmate in a way. 601 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 3: She said she feels I get her more than anyone 602 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 3: else in the world, including her fiance. This took me 603 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 3: by surprise to actually hear, and I broke down and 604 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: started crying, and so did she. I don't know if 605 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 3: that is the thing that OP needs to hear, but 606 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 3: I understand what she's saying. He's like, you're my best friend, 607 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: soul mat Yeah, I would consider my best friends like 608 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: I have a best friend, I would consider it is 609 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: my soulmate. 610 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: Soulmate. 611 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, BOMT doesn't have to be romantic. 612 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: What Yeah, okay, never thought about that. To be honest, 613 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: kind of gave up on the concept of soulmates long ago. 614 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 3: I don't believe in one soulmate. I think that soulmates 615 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: are just people that I think that you can have 616 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 3: multiple sumets and that yeah, that are meant to be 617 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: in your life, oh joy. And yeah, after we cleared 618 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 3: our heads, she told me I can still come to 619 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: the wedding if I wanted, and there's no pressure to 620 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 3: be involved as such. I said to her, I do 621 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 3: not think I can, as the love I have for 622 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 3: her is not strictly platonic on my party and there 623 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: it is still not. 624 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 5: Ever he thought it was just a phase. Yeah, he 625 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 5: thought it was just a. 626 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 3: Phase, and to give her away in the way she 627 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 3: wants feels like a punt in the ball. I just 628 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 3: don't think I can. 629 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: Do. 630 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: You seem to get angry at this thinking about it. 631 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: In hindsight, I think she was just being direct and 632 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: told me I need to accept we are over. 633 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 634 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: I think that's just direct. I think that's her being like, 635 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: it's been three years, you need to get over me. 636 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, But the late nuts hanging out with the fur 637 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: baby's why. 638 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that helped him. She stressed to me 639 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: that she is not into me in that way. I said, 640 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: I do not think I can, and that we may 641 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: be best to properly cut ties, at least for a time, 642 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: as it's eating me up. There is a little bit 643 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: left of the story, but I do think that is 644 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 3: the right move for op Oh? 645 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 646 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: I don't think that you can be friends with the 647 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: next who you're into. 648 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. There was There's this friend of mine 649 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: that was going through a breakup and I was like, Oh, 650 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: we should hang out and go on dates. And then 651 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: it kind of got a little and I was like, 652 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: you need to process your breakup. We can't be friends. 653 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: Oh he's here, he's been here for three months hoping 654 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 3: that she'll come back, and she can, so you have 655 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: to leave that. I guarantee that's why he's not had 656 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: a sixful relationship or like a long term relationship in 657 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 3: three years. 658 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: What's soul mate, dude? That's wild. I understand the differ 659 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: between twin flame and soulmate now, but if I just 660 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: got heard that, I'd be like screaming on the inside. 661 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: That I assume that's how he feels. 662 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: Souse. 663 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: She's seeing us as like a platonic soulmate, and he's 664 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: being like, you're my you're my romanticsmate, I'm in love 665 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: with you. 666 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand the feeling. I want to date with 667 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: one chick. Yeah, now she's with another woman now. And 668 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: then I went through the mindset of like, yeah, what 669 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: is my sexuality if I'm attracted to lesbian? And I 670 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: was like, what does this mean? I was just like, 671 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: I'm attracted a woman. 672 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 5: What is this? 673 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: I'm attracted to a woman? Attracted a woman? What am 674 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: I straight? 675 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 5: Three? Okay, but guess what She's not attracted to just 676 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 5: attracted to you? Does that make her simple? 677 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: Math? 678 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: She said, if that is what I want, she understands, 679 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: and she started to really cry. 680 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: Oh. 681 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 3: We hugged and parted there. Before she left, she told 682 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: me she could tell I'm drinking again and said, if 683 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 3: all else fails and this is it, but please try 684 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: and at least get sober again. To say my head 685 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: is a mess is an understatement. Luckily, I've not heard 686 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: from her since she left, and I have deactivated all 687 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 3: my social media so I cannot see what she's up to. 688 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: Smart comment Wan, this is literally the weirdest, most unhealthy 689 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: relationship dynamic post separation that I've ever heard of. You 690 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 3: cannot stand contact with her. This whole thing is super unhealthy. 691 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: Also hit the gym reply to be frank, it. 692 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: Sounds like they both aren't over each other. She literally 693 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 3: told them she sees him in a way she doesn't 694 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: even see her fiance because this is her best friend. 695 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: Separation in this instance might serve them both for the better. 696 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 3: She needs to focus on her fiance and he needs 697 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 3: to find someone else. Comment two says, not the a 698 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: whole reality didn't meet her ideas, and she blames you 699 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: for not being what she embodied you to be. She 700 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 3: should have managed her expectations out of respect. She didn't 701 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 3: even think you could say no worse, she thought you'd welcome. 702 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: Mitt speaks volumes. Oh Pi says good point. I think 703 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 3: she thought she knew me so well that she assumed 704 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: it would be an instant. Yes. I think because she 705 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: put me on the spot, I had to make a 706 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: decision there and then where If she did it over 707 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: the phone or text an email, I have thought about 708 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: it differently, in the outcome may have been different. Common three. 709 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 3: Has she been paying attention to your emotional state in 710 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: the slightest Opie says when we first split up, she 711 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: was amazing. I was drinking loads and she was so 712 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 3: helpful and trying to get me out of that and 713 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 3: helped me into therapy. She's also trying to help me 714 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: with my self esteem, even vetting some of my dating choices. 715 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: In the last three years since the argument, however, we 716 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 3: haven't spoken really much at all, so not lately, I 717 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: don't feel and that's the end of that story. Again, 718 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: I feel like they're letting Opee way too off the hook. 719 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: They're like, oh, she did this, Why is she still 720 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: trying to be friends with you? It's like they both 721 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 3: did that. Yeah, and she thought he was over her 722 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: and now is finding out that, Oh no, he's really 723 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 3: not over me. And I thought we had this friendship 724 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: and yeah, maybe she was being a little oblivious, but 725 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: I feel like they're both you know, a blame for 726 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 3: all this relationship was. 727 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 5: I think like they should have definitely communicated where they were. 728 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: Taking some time off, and because it seems like they 729 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 3: broke up and then he was she was just helping 730 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: him with his you know, drinking problem. 731 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: This separation seems best for both of them. Angry because 732 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: if you're about to get married to someone and you 733 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: consider your ex even though you're not attracted to them anymore, 734 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: you're closer to them than you are your fiance, that 735 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: honestly would not sit right with me. 736 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: I will say she's known a p four five years, 737 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 3: probably three years at least, well at least three years 738 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 3: because they broke up three years ago, but probably more 739 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: because they were talking about marriage. So let's say like 740 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 3: five years at the most. She considers him her best friend. 741 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: She's known her fiance for a year. Their marriage was 742 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: pretty quick or their engagement was this just happened. Not 743 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 3: saying that it should be, but it does make sense. 744 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: Why the timelines, why she sees this person, you know, 745 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: p as her platonics told me, and like best friend, 746 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: and she's close to him, especially again, she doesn't have 747 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 3: really great male figures in her life. 748 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: Just wouldn't sit round with me. 749 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, says totally equal blame on this. 750 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing, like they're 751 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 5: both that fault. It's it's one of those situations where 752 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 5: you think you can be best friends or friends with 753 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 5: your eggs. Yeah, and one moves on and one is 754 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 5: always hung up. 755 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: Anyways, we got another story coming up for you guys. 756 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: All right, my boyfriend dumped me for his sister's pregnant 757 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: best friend. 758 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: Did he make her pregnant? 759 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: My ex friend set me up with a guy, let's 760 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: call him Chris. She considered him to be like a brother. 761 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: Back in twenty twenty. I twenty two at the time, 762 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 2: didn't really date guys didn't really seem attracted to me. 763 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: I'm a bigger woman with hEDS pcos pots among other issues. 764 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 3: What does that mean, well, polycystic ovarian syndrome. I know 765 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: one of the symptoms is like if you stand up 766 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: fall like you get the blackout thing really easily. Oh no, 767 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 3: it's like a lot of iron deficiencies. Often a company. 768 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 2: Okay. The guys who seem interested only seemed to be 769 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: interested in getting me in the bedroom, so I rarely 770 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: got to the relationship basis. By the way, this comes 771 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: from a witchy woman nineteen ninety eight. And if you 772 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: would have spit your own stories, go to the r 773 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 2: slash okay story t I'm stubborned where this story came from? 774 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: What this is one of our own? My name's Riley, 775 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 2: I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and we're here to give good 776 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 2: advice s gooefully. But we don't have all the answers. 777 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: We only know what we do know. So let us 778 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: know what you would do in the comments below. So 779 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: Opie says Chris twenty three at the time, had a 780 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 2: child from a previous marriage. My ex friend thought he 781 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: was looking for someone to settle down with after the 782 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 2: stuff he went through with his ex. She was violent. 783 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: I was iffy due to the last few guys. I 784 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 2: tried dating with kids who led me on, just to 785 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 2: ghost me after a few weeks, but I finally cave 786 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 2: and had her tell him to message me. We talked 787 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: and hung out for a few weeks. Two a month, 788 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 2: he said he wasn't sure if he wanted a relationship. 789 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 2: What was hope he would be soon. I told him 790 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: there was no rush because I'd rather him be sure 791 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: than the lead me on. Yeah, that's that's smart. About 792 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: a week after he told me that, he asked me 793 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: to be his girlfriend. 794 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: Okay, so he took a week. He was like, I'm 795 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 3: pretty sure. 796 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: He liked that. He was schmitten by the idea. 797 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam. 798 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 5: We're gonna get back to the stories. 799 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 1: But here's three minutes bads from our sponsors. 800 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: I asked him if he was sure, since it wasn't 801 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 2: long after he said he wasn't sure he'd be ready 802 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 2: for a relationship. He told me he was one hundred 803 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: and ten percent sure he was ready. 804 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: So I said, yes, See, that would make me less suer, 805 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh, that's not even possible. He can't 806 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 3: be one hundred and ten percent short, ridiculous. 807 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 2: Maybe they're bad at math that they don't know what 808 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: one hundred ten percent. 809 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 3: Well, maybe he's bad at relationships too, hot. 810 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: Take you're bad at math. You're bad at relationships by Sophia. 811 00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 3: Dang it, I'm bad at that's su trure. I'm good 812 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: at math, just not mental math. So if i'd keep 813 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 3: the relationship in my head, it's bad. 814 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 5: Yes. 815 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 2: About a week into us dating, he decided he want 816 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: me to meet his family, which I figured was going 817 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 2: to happen quickly since they all lived across the street 818 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 2: from my friend and I was going over there quite often. 819 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: All of this family seemed to love me, except or 820 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 2: his sister Lola. 821 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: Uh oh. 822 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 2: That weekend I met his family, his sister showed up 823 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: with her baby daddy and her pregnant best friend. This 824 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 2: was Chris's first time meeting Lola's best friend, Grace. 825 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: Hmmm, love at first sight hopefully not? 826 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: Hopefully not. As I was talking to Lola before they left, 827 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: I noticed, for some reason, when Grace said bye, she 828 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: hugged into Chris for an awkwardly long time. I mean 829 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 2: Chris sort of looked uncomfortable with how long it was, 830 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 2: so I wasn't concerned, especially since Chris hadn't given me 831 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: any reason to not trust him. A couple of days later, 832 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 2: my ex friend told me Grace thought I hated her 833 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 2: because of the hug, so I went and found her 834 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: social media messaged her to let her know I didn't 835 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 2: hate her, as I had no reason not to trust 836 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 2: Chris for some reason. Chris at this point had gone 837 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 2: radio silent on me. 838 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 3: What this is? How long into the girlfriendness is this? 839 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 2: I want to say, like a couple of weeks, not yeah, 840 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: like a week fresh, it's super fresh. He went from 841 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: texting and video chatting every often to leaving me on 842 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: red or giving me one or two word responses other 843 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 2: than him telling me he was going through something mentally 844 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 2: and thought he needed some space. I thought it was 845 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 2: a bit weird, but said I understood and left him 846 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: to be for about a week. After week, he just 847 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: continued to leave me on red. 848 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, these are the signs. These are the breakup signs. 849 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: His family would ask me we were still together. I 850 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 2: would just say at this point, I don't know, go 851 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: ask him yourself doesn't know how to respond to me. 852 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 2: About a month after he asked me to be his girlfriend, 853 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 2: two months since we started talking, he came over to 854 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 2: my ex friend's house in a T shirt. I gifted 855 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: him with his kid I haven't met before this. 856 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 3: You hadn't met his kid before y'all started dating. I 857 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 3: take that back, because I feel like oftentimes when you 858 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 3: have kids, you don't want to introduce them until you're serious. Yeah, 859 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 3: that does make. 860 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,479 Speaker 2: Sense, mind you. He was still leaving me on read 861 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: other than a couple of one word responses. Three to 862 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 2: four days after, I got a message from Grace asking 863 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 2: for Chris and I were still together. I told her 864 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 2: to ask him because he wasn't responding to me. She 865 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 2: responded with, you should ask him again. So, of course, 866 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: being that it was a weird message to see from 867 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 2: another female, I asked Chris lo and behold. He did 868 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 2: not respond. A couple of days later, I was sick 869 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: of it and message Chris saying we need to talk 870 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: because are we even together? He responded with I'm sorry, 871 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 2: but I forced myself to be in a relationship with 872 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 2: you when I wasn't ready for one. Again, I'm so sorry. 873 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: I just responded to him with the thumbs up emotion. 874 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. What do you mean you forced yourself to 875 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 3: be in a relationship that you weren't ready for? 876 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 5: Remember one hundred ten percent? 877 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I knew that was a lie because one 878 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 3: hundred percent is impossible. 879 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: Probably was just ten percent to be ready. 880 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 3: Ridiculous, you freaking little liar. 881 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: Or he was eleven percent ready and just added a 882 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 2: zero own. 883 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 3: Assaid yes, sir, I didn't I didn't mean to. 884 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 5: It was a point sorry, it was a point zero. 885 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 3: It was eleven point zero percent. And it was like 886 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 3: he was like, I was really confused. Why you were 887 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 3: so excited about the eleven percent. Uh, that's ridiculous. Stop 888 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 3: doing that. People don't do that if you're not ready 889 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,439 Speaker 3: to be in a relationship. 890 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: Yep, don't be in one and just say you're giving 891 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 2: it your one hundred percent, not one hundred and ten percent. 892 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: Two days later he blocked me on everything is hundred 893 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: ten percent problem. Two days after that, I saw Grace's 894 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 2: Facebook that she and Chris were in a relationship. 895 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 3: Well, it won't last long because he forced himself to 896 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 3: be in a relationship with you, And if a man says, ah, 897 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 3: I'm sorry I forced myself to be in a relationship 898 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 3: with you and then gets into another relationship right after that. 899 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: He is not handling anything healthily. He does not know 900 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 3: how to be alone. 901 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 2: My first thought was they knew each other longer than 902 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 2: they mentioned, and she was pregnant with Chris's baby. 903 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 3: That would be my first thought. 904 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 2: But my ex friend and Chris's other sister confirmed that 905 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 2: she was pregnant with another man's baby who wanted nothing 906 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 2: to do with Grace for the baby. My ex friend 907 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 2: threw a fit to both of them because she knew 908 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 2: I had started to fall for Chris pretty hard when 909 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: he had me meet his family. I tend to fall 910 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 2: for someone pretty hard and sometimes a bit fast. The 911 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 2: fit my ex through had Chris's sister, Lola, messaged me mad. 912 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: I was upset Chris was already with another woman, not 913 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 2: even a week after he told me he wasn't act 914 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 2: ready for a relationship. A couple of months went by 915 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 2: and I was finally mostly over him, only to find 916 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 2: out they were engaged. 917 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 5: Wow, they're really rushing. 918 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 3: Yikes. I mean, just comfort yourself with the fact that 919 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 3: that relationship is going to be so messy. 920 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 2: You don't want any part of that. 921 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 5: That ship is on fire from the beginning, like. 922 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 3: It's super zocks that you know he led you on 923 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 3: and treated you like this, but just know that he 924 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 3: was not a man that you want to be in 925 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 3: a relationship with and that you will find someone better. 926 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 2: It only bugged me a tiny bit. It had been months, 927 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 2: but there was still a sting knowing they were working 928 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 2: out the way I was hoping. About eight to ten 929 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: months after that, my ex best friend told me go 930 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: look at Grace's page because it was interesting. Her and 931 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 2: Chris got married the day after what had been his 932 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 2: and mine one year anniversary. My ex friend told me 933 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 2: she had overheard Grace wanting to do it on the day, 934 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 2: but there were no time slots at the courthouse to 935 00:41:59,480 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 2: do it. 936 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 3: That's insane and feels like on purpose. 937 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 2: That's weird. 938 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: Why the day that can't be coincidental. 939 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 2: The only good thing that came out of this relationship 940 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 2: and the friendship with my ex friend is I got 941 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 2: a wonderful dog who absolutely loves Dakota and Riley. Reading 942 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 2: from my ex's younger sister, not Lola, who is best 943 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 2: friends with my ex friend. Dude is this Jamie, Jamie? 944 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: Are you here? 945 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,959 Speaker 2: Someone d m Jamie that we're reading. 946 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 5: We don't know that love our voices for sure? 947 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 2: Sorry, I just I thought so. 948 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 3: I just got excited. 949 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 2: Dang, that's crazy. I also learned not to trust most 950 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 2: guys named Chris. 951 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 5: No, you can't do that. 952 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 3: Come on, Chris's prap no, very lovely Chris. 953 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 2: I was like, I love Chris. Chris Pine's pretty cool 954 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 2: Chris Pine. 955 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: Chris Evans sevens. 956 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 2: Dude, Uh your friend, Chris, I. 957 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 3: Said, I know. 958 00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 2: Christoph Waltz, Christian in college, was named Chris. There you go, 959 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 2: because if Chris crossed applesauce, what would he do to you? 960 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 3: Sure? And I've always said that yop. 961 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 2: Caught on at number one. Chris showed you who he 962 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 2: is by leading you on, ignoring your messages, and then 963 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 2: turning around to be with someone almost immediately. That is 964 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 2: not a reflection of your worth. It's a reflection of 965 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 2: its immaturity and dishonesty. You gave him the benefit of 966 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 2: the doubt and patience when he asked for space, and 967 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 2: he chose to use that time to move on behind 968 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 2: your back instead of being upfront with you. Best thing 969 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 2: you can do now is gut ties with Chris and 970 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: anyone in his circle who stirs up drama or tries 971 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 2: to make you feel guilty for having emotions. Protect your 972 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 2: peace and distance yourself from people who do not respect 973 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 2: your feelings. It might still sting, especially knowing how quickly 974 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: he moved on, but healing will come from focusing on 975 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 2: yourself and refusing to let him or his family take 976 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 2: up any more of your energy. Spend time with people 977 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 2: who uplift you, and invest in things that remind you 978 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 2: of your value. This is also a chance to practice 979 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 2: setting stronger boundaries for future relationships. If someone starts pulling away, 980 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 2: going quiet, we're acting inconsistent, It's okay to step back 981 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 2: and protect yourself instead of waiting around for clarity. You 982 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: deserve a partner who is clear about what they want 983 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 2: and who values your trust from the very beginning. We 984 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 2: have an update John here. 985 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 4: We're gonna get back to this juicy story, but a 986 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 4: quick three minute break of ads from our sponsors. 987 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 3: Yes, I agreed to all of that. Was this a 988 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 3: piece like first relationship? No one of her first Okay, 989 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 3: I think it's like I think go specified that like 990 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 3: she hadn't been in very like serious, like long lasting relationships. 991 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 3: So I feel like when you have that mindset or 992 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 3: you know or don't have that experience. 993 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 5: And you're yearning for one and you're. 994 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 3: Yearning for one, you're kind of not attuned to red flags. Yes, 995 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 3: but you were getting the hang of it. 996 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 5: It's also experience. Yeah, I think everyone when when we 997 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 5: all had our first relationships, you're like, this is perfect, 998 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 5: this is I can see my future with this person. 999 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 5: And then you look back on your oh boy, that was. 1000 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you get the hang of it. And next time, 1001 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 3: if a guy says one week ago, I'm not ready 1002 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 3: for relationship, and then says the next week I'm one 1003 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 3: hundred and ten percent ready for relationship, you're gonna be like, 1004 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 3: that doesn't sound right. 1005 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 5: It's a learning experience. I mean some people can get 1006 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 5: it right off the bat, which is great for others, 1007 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 5: it takes takes multiple partners. 1008 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,959 Speaker 2: And we got an update. My boredom got the best 1009 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 2: of me and I went to see if my ex's wife, 1010 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 2: the woman he left me for it still blocked me 1011 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,720 Speaker 2: on Facebook, mainly because I saw she viewed my TikTok 1012 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 2: profile and liked a few of my videos from five 1013 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 2: years ago, right after he broke up with me, he 1014 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 2: blocked me on Facebook. When I laugh reacted to her 1015 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 2: and Chris making things official on Facebook, well, she unblocks me. 1016 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 2: I immediately noticed her profile picture wasn't of her and my 1017 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 2: ex or her and the kids like normal, But I 1018 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 2: quickly realized who was in the picture with her. It 1019 00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: was my ex's brother. 1020 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 3: Who wait, whose picture? 1021 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 2: Is this her ex's wife? So the profile picture isn't 1022 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 2: with her ex and the wife, it's with her ex's 1023 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 2: wife and brother. Ooh, Naturally I got more curious, so 1024 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,919 Speaker 2: I looked up my ex's second Facebook that I wasn't 1025 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 2: blocked on to see what was on his page. His 1026 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 2: profile picture was with the same brother's baby mama. They 1027 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 2: just flip flopped. That's insane, Sophia Keon, What do we 1028 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 2: think of the switcher room here? 1029 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 3: I mean, clearly they're messy. Yeah, clearly they're messy, and 1030 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 3: you got out of their op. So just be thankful 1031 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 3: for that. 1032 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 5: I told you that ship was on fire. 1033 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 2: Yikes, Honeybee, keep it in the family. 1034 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 3: I guess. So they just did a little wife swap. 1035 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 2: So messy wrestling mama. Yeah, I'm shocked too. 1036 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 5: Crazy honestly, MOPI good, you dodged this bullet. 1037 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,959 Speaker 2: Finish it off. Chris, my ex has one biological kid 1038 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,040 Speaker 2: with the woman he married after breaking up with me, 1039 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,280 Speaker 2: and his brother has one biological kid with the woman 1040 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 2: my ex is now with. So my ex and his 1041 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 2: brother have become Uncle Daddy's apparently. 1042 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 5: Okay, hey, oh all right then, Ah, we're just gonna 1043 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:13,959 Speaker 5: have a lot of these today. 1044 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 2: Huh Uncle Daddy. It made me even more glad I 1045 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,720 Speaker 2: wasn't with Chris anymore and totally made me laugh because 1046 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 2: what kind of Jerry Springer bs is going on with 1047 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 2: that family? 1048 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 1: Oh? 1049 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, that's crazy, But you're out of 1050 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 3: there and hope you find someone better. 1051 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, and think we have one like mini story. 1052 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 3: My ex dumped me to be with his stepsister, not 1053 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 3: the steps and this comes directly from the R slash 1054 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 3: Showcay storytime severed it. Oh a little backstory, Me twenty 1055 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 3: eight female and my now ex let's call him John, 1056 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 3: Oh twenty seven male. Oh, we're going through what I 1057 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 3: thought was a rough patch. He'd distance himself from me 1058 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,919 Speaker 3: and by extension are three now four year old daughter. 1059 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 3: He began to hang out more around his close in age, stepsister, 1060 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 3: staying out late, hanging out with friends, and definitely drinking. 1061 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 3: The more days went by, I noticed how weirdly close 1062 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,760 Speaker 3: they had gotten more than normal. 1063 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they always hang out in the laundry room. 1064 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 3: Eh. By the way, this comes from Wolf of Snow 1065 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 3: ninety seven, And if you want to spit your own stories, 1066 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 3: go to the r slash Okay, storytime subured it. I'm Sophia, 1067 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,839 Speaker 3: I'm Riley and Keon, and we're here to give good 1068 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 3: advice goofily, but we don't have all the answers. We 1069 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 3: only know what we'd do, So let us know what 1070 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 3: you would do in the comments. But Op says he'd 1071 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 3: almost never help around the house when I asked and 1072 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 3: told him how I needed the. 1073 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 2: Help, but Stepsister was kept getting stuck, so I had 1074 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 2: to kept getting her unstuck. 1075 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 5: Eh, more like he got stuck in her a. 1076 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 3: Instead, he enlisted his stepmom and stepsisters out help, which 1077 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 3: I thought was weird but a nice gesture until he 1078 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 3: voiced how he thought it was embarrassing that he had 1079 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,399 Speaker 3: to ask for help for me. Looking back, I think 1080 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 3: he was trying to create a reason to break it off. 1081 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 2: It's the stepmom too. 1082 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 3: I then started to become aware that it was getting 1083 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 3: way more suspicious after I caught them close face to 1084 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 3: face in the front of the house, not kissing, but 1085 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 3: definitely close enough distance to be awkward to watch. He 1086 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,439 Speaker 3: noticed me and backed away before walking out the garage door. 1087 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 3: I also backed up, wondering what I just witnessed at 1088 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 3: the time. As forward a bit, the night before, I 1089 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 3: received his breakup text, not even in person. He had 1090 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 3: been so seemingly loving and we had spicy sleep, giving 1091 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 3: me the illusion that maybe we'd be okay after all. 1092 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, the breakup. Spicy sleep, the breakup sleep. 1093 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 3: We'd been together seven almost eight years, oh and threw 1094 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 3: one breakup and back together. But looking back, it was 1095 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 3: the optimism of love blinding me. I tried to bargain 1096 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 3: how we could work it out and get past it 1097 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 3: for our little family and little one, but every suggestion 1098 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 3: was shot down. I tried to find a job so 1099 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 3: I could get stable and help, but him being my 1100 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 3: only ride, he left me to miss my interview without 1101 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 3: feeling supported. I packed me and my daughter up to 1102 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 3: leave and talked to my family to see if they 1103 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 3: would be able to get us out, and they did. 1104 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,399 Speaker 3: Not without some defensiveness that I was taking the daughter. 1105 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 3: I was pretty much there for everything. For while he 1106 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 3: only ever wanted the fun side of being a dad, 1107 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,720 Speaker 3: there's a little bit left to this story. 1108 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 2: He wanted the fun side of being a dad and 1109 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 2: a brother. 1110 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 5: Yikes, today's theme is just not on it. 1111 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 3: I don't I don't like this. I don't like this. 1112 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 5: Today's theme has played like guitar rift from a Lynyrd Skynerd. 1113 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 3: I don't like this. I don't want it. I don't 1114 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 3: want any of my stories. I don't want to read it. 1115 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 2: It's just spicy sleep, Sophia. No, it's my spicy sleep 1116 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 2: in the confounds of family. 1117 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 5: All right, Fast and furious. 1118 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 3: Fast forward to after we left. John, his best friend, 1119 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 3: and oddly his stepsister followed us down the week after 1120 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 3: for Father's Day week, despite claiming no money for months, 1121 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 3: he traveled to all the places he wanted to take 1122 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 3: our daughter to with her tagging along, including to his 1123 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 3: other side of his family's houses. I now recognize this 1124 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 3: as him introducing her to his family. How did he 1125 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 3: introduce her? How exactly did he what did he introduce her? 1126 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 5: Ass, this is my step girlfriend? 1127 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,439 Speaker 3: Fast forward a few months after the breakup after being 1128 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 3: told he's not interested in dating. News flash, she's dating. 1129 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 5: Her girlfriend stepsister. That's crazy. 1130 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,720 Speaker 3: It's always the parentheses of not dating. 1131 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 2: You also going to meet the family. What do you 1132 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 2: think they're thinking? Hey, honey, so what happened to your 1133 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 2: other girlfriend? 1134 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,919 Speaker 3: Yeah? Why is your stepsister here? I find out through 1135 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,240 Speaker 3: some of her posts tagging him and his dad's post. 1136 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 3: That's so weird tagging him and what to anyone would 1137 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 3: look like Cutesye, dating poses whether fishing or even in 1138 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 3: the car with him leaning on her shoulder. The audacity 1139 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 3: to not only lie then make it public is wild. 1140 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 3: His Facebook relationship status reflects that yes, he's definitely dating. 1141 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 3: There's no misconception, including his dad's photocaption about them's dealing 1142 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 3: kisses so amy the ale if I expose them publicly 1143 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 3: for what definitely seems like cheating, Nah. 1144 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 5: Well, I feel like just get away from that pecular explosion. 1145 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 5: I feel like, just get away from the fire, walk away, 1146 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 5: don't look. 1147 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't need to be anywhere near that. 1148 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 2: If you can, this is my only advice I could 1149 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 2: give to you. Save up as much money as you can, 1150 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,439 Speaker 2: fly to BALI, go to a bood and stay there 1151 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 2: for a week or. 1152 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 5: Two, maybe three. 1153 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 2: Fore you would be perfect. A month would be amazing. 1154 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 2: Just find yourself in Bali because that's what people do. 1155 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 2: That's what I did. 1156 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 5: And what do you find in Bali? 1157 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 2: You guys, and you found me and. 1158 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 5: BALI found in Bali. 1159 00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 2: It led me to you guys. 1160 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 3: Oh that's nice. 1161 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would definitely get out. 1162 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 3: Hit a different talent. But that's the end of that 1163 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 3: story and the end of this cursed episode. 1164 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 2: We got comments. 1165 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 3: We got comments here. 1166 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that means this video was posted on August thirteenth 1167 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 2: and the TLDR. The first story was Opie's dad decided 1168 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 2: to leave the entire family business to his older brother 1169 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 2: instead of giving op any ownership, even though op does 1170 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 2: most of the physical work. Opie quit got offered a 1171 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 2: way better job by their biggest client, which meant the 1172 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 2: client would stop using Dad's company. When op told his 1173 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 2: family about the new job, they called him selfish tried 1174 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 2: to sabotage him by bound mouthing him to his new boss. 1175 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 2: Now Dad's business is failing and they had to fire people, 1176 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 2: and the family isn't speaking to Ope anymore. 1177 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 3: I remember the story all right. 1178 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 5: So Cynthia Guzman seventy one thirty take it from the 1179 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 5: top here. I'll have to comment on this. You. Dad 1180 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 5: and brother never acknowledged Ope's contribution to the business. They 1181 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 5: thought of him as just a loathly grunt, so they 1182 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 5: never would have treated Op the way that he earned. 1183 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 5: He was the reason that their business was staying afloat, 1184 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 5: and they never would have seen that their biggest client 1185 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 5: always requested Op for the work that they needed done. 1186 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 5: That should have been a sign for Daddy, Deer and 1187 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 5: beloved brother to try and keep him, but instead they 1188 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,720 Speaker 5: just figured that he was replaceable and business would continue 1189 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 5: as normal. L O L. I really do love watching 1190 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 5: Karma work her incredible magic when greatly deserved. As far 1191 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 5: as the will goes well, beloved Brother will be lucky 1192 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 5: if there's anything left after the business folds. Opie has 1193 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 5: a lifetype of wins coming towards him, and I'm quite 1194 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 5: sure that he will be hearing from dear Daddy and 1195 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 5: brother in the future when they are both hurting for money. 1196 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 5: He won't be needing any inheritance in the future. The 1197 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 5: company that hired him will continue to appreciate him, and 1198 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,240 Speaker 5: even if they don't. With the experience that OPI's building, 1199 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 5: someone will that is the first come real. 1200 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 2: Quick working for a company and being there from like 1201 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 2: the round up. Yeah, you really understand like the inner 1202 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 2: workings of it, and you kind of come up to 1203 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 2: your own ideas of, oh, I could do this better, 1204 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 2: do that better because that story the dad was very 1205 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 2: traditional in everything. And I'll just come a long way. 1206 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 3: Remember like Opie wasn't getting paid, well he wasn't, and yeah, 1207 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 3: there's just a bunch of other problems. 1208 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 2: If you can bring new technical innovations to a company, 1209 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:23,839 Speaker 2: he's gonna kill. 1210 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 3: It's gonna do already got like a way better job. 1211 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 5: So yeah, we have a second comment. This is from 1212 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 5: Nana pe A two seven. The father and brother use 1213 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 5: the son as a grunt worker. It's the grunt workers 1214 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,399 Speaker 5: that make you money. To me, it looks like God 1215 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 5: had a plan for this young man and open a 1216 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 5: window for him. 1217 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 2: That's right, God does. And you know if he wants 1218 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 2: to close it, he'll just not make it happen, just 1219 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 2: won't get anything. 1220 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,240 Speaker 5: And one more comment from code Rain. If the client 1221 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 5: can replace twelve people with the one son they're hiring directly, 1222 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 5: that's a damn shame, and I don't love layoffs. But 1223 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 5: from a family business point of view, it shows who's 1224 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 5: been carrying the business. They clarify OPI has been generating 1225 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 5: the revenue that keeps twelve people employed, but being excluded 1226 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 5: from the decision making and value. If this were a 1227 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 5: normal business relationship, it'd be enough to quit. If it's 1228 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 5: a family, it's a demonstration of inequitable access to support, 1229 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 5: emotional et cetera. Opie is carrying the family and the 1230 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 5: company he really was. 1231 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 3: Really it didn't do well when he left. 1232 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 2: Being a part of a company is like you gotta 1233 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 2: you have so many processes and so many things you 1234 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 2: gotta stay on top of m hm. Kind of crazy door. 1235 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,400 Speaker 3: And that's the end of that comment session and the 1236 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 3: end of the story and the end of this episode. 1237 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,359 Speaker 3: But if you love us, make sure to subscribe. 1238 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 2: We freaking love you and see you tomorrow.