1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: If you're about to make a change in your life 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: and you feel uncomfortable, that's the best feeling you can have. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Because for the first time in your life, you'll make 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: a new. 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Decision that's going to be best for you and not 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: what somebody told you to do, and that's when all 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: bets are off. Welcome to Money Making Conversation Master Class. 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rashan McDonald. Our theme is there's no 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: perfect time to start following your dreams. I recognize that 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: we all have different definitions of success. For you and 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: maybe decide to your HM, it's time to stop reading 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: other people's success stories to start living your own. Keep winning. 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: Him. 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald's I host the weekly Money Making Conversation master 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: Class show. The interviews and information that this show provides 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: off for everyone. It's time to stop reading other people's 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: success stories and start living your own. My guess is 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four Sports Illustrated Swim Soup rookie She 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: Just Go Cake Sinball is beautiful, as you will see 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: in a minute as the first ever bald Kenyon model 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: for the magazine. Please walk with the Money Making Conversation 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: Master Class. A chin Ogutu how you doing? 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: Hello? 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Are you? 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: Can I just get out the way you look fantastic? 26 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Can I just say that I just want to not 27 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, if you want to hear it all run, 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: Just just go up to the bat and just start swinging. 29 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 2: You are all run. Thank you very much, Sean. 30 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here today. 31 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: You know the thing about when I what I interview individuals, 32 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: especially from a glamorous standpoint of the world of beauty 33 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: or fitness, they're always stereotypes. 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: Okay, they come up with that. 35 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: People expect certain people to look a certain way. Now 36 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: you're bald, beautiful, yes, but do you fit the standard 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: of what people you think people are looking for? And 38 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,279 Speaker 1: how did you break that barrier? 39 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I don't think I do. I've gotten a 40 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: lot of feedback and solicited feedback from people who think, 41 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: as a woman, it is very unfeminine of me to 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: cut my hair. I'm also a very like, vibrant and 43 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 3: vivacious and loud person and people think that all those 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: things are very not woman like. And wow, for me, 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: those are stereotypes that people are imposing on me based 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 3: off of their insecurities. So how I'm choosing to get 47 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 3: over that is that what they're going through has nothing 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: to do with me. I have one life on this 49 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: earth and if I can live it for myself doing 50 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: the things I want to do, being the person I know, 51 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: I truly am, and that's it, and I'm happy. 52 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: Well, you should be happy, because, like I said, you know, 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: first of all, there's that stereotype, stereotype of beauty. Then 54 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: you come from Kenya, yes, and I'm sure you have 55 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: to deal with stereotypes that give us some of the 56 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: stereotypes that you deal with people's perception of what Kenya is, 57 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: what people do for a living in Kenya, and as 58 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: you start to make the transition, let's start with the 59 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: stereotypes of Kenya in general. 60 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: That Kenyans can't speak English. Hey, I think people are 61 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: always like, you're from Kenya and you speak English. Yes, 62 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: And I went to international school back home. I'm very 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: well educated my parents my dad is an educator, and 64 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 3: so they are shocked that I can one speak English, 65 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: that I can speak more than one language. And I 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: think that's their limitation of them thinking that, especially Africans 67 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: don't have the opportunity to be educated. Another one is 68 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: is where I live. They are like surprised when I 69 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: post pictures when I'm back home, that like I live 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: in a house and a good house too, and that 71 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: my dad is driving me around in a car, and 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: that I'm not writing an elephant or like having a 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: petline like these stereotypes, because you know, social social media, 74 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: the media is that's what they show you, right, They 75 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: show you a video about how if you send a 76 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: dollar a day, you can save somebody in Uganda, you know. 77 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: And so I think it's so hard for them to 78 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: even comprehend that a woman like me can exist in 79 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: a space that like this, you know, and that in 80 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: regardless of my background, that I could still do this. 81 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: Wow, you know. 82 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you, I believe everything you said 83 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: because i have grown up in the United States and 84 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: I've seen. 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: That dollar a day. 86 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: I've seen where they promote safaris all the time, big 87 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: game hunting all the time. I've been stereotyped with I 88 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: gotta say, tars and movies, you know. And these things 89 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: still dominate, whether you want to say or not, in 90 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: our media today. But more importantly, a lot of it 91 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: is just to suppress the intelligence of a race of people. Yes, 92 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: and I think that's where racism comes in. That's what 93 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: stereotypes are born out of. But now that you're overhear 94 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: mister Goto, Well, what have been some of your mentors 95 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: that have told you keep doing what you're doing, don't 96 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: worry about it, and we have to worry about What 97 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: are some of the mentors that will help you? 98 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: As in, somebody who's always been in my circle and 99 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: Mike Corner since ninety six are my parents, Okay, and 100 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: they have always wanted the best for me. My parents 101 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: have sacrificed so much for me to even be in 102 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 3: this space. And so for example them, I'm letting me 103 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 3: leave Kenya at sixteen to move to the US like 104 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: they want it better for me. So I would say 105 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: my parents have like such great, great, great mentors for me. 106 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: I also have an amazing manager who I'm obsessed with 107 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: like she is Mi Chris Jenner. She does make things 108 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 3: happen and she has been my champion for forever in 109 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: I think personally in my career. She has went to 110 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: you to push me and say, like you can do that, 111 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: you can work with this brand, you can walk into 112 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: those space and do whatever you need to do. You 113 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: can talk to that person you can step in this meeting. 114 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: And so that lady, I just I'm obsessed with her. 115 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: And my other mentor was my American mother who I 116 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: stayed with the first time I moved to the US, 117 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: and she was one of the people that really helped 118 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: me step out of my shell and be like, it's 119 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: okay for you to cut your hand and still feel 120 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 3: beautiful and sexy and confident. It's okay for you to 121 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: speak up and say you don't want to eat this, 122 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: or you don't wanna you don't wanna talk to this person, 123 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: or you don't want to wear this. And so she 124 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: has been an amazing support for me as well. 125 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: Well, you can't win without support. And I would tell 126 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: you this. You know my head is bald because I 127 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: have no choice. 128 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: Let you do that. 129 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: And your boy, I had the nature, came along mister 130 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: Gutu and went, okay, brother, either you go look like 131 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: your hair got problems or you're gonna cut it off 132 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: and cut it off and like. 133 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: You your head works. 134 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: You know, not everybody can cut their hair off that 135 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: so many people say that. 136 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: People say, like, you have a good head, and like, 137 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: I think everybody has a good head, But. 138 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: No don't just stop it right. There is to go to. 139 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: You have the right face, structure, smile, nose. 140 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: Head if everybody can't do it right because of you know, 141 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: just God is giving people certain things of value. So 142 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: now when you start talking about your manager, because I 143 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: want to go back to that, because sometimes you have 144 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: to have people see things in you that you don't see. Yeah, 145 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: like I said, your parents or your ultimate mentors, they 146 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: allowed you to come over to you in US when 147 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: you was sixteen. But how did this manage you come 148 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: into your life? And what was the motivation? Because she's 149 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: now you're a big motivator on your social media platform. 150 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: We go talk about that in a minute. Let's talk 151 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: about somebody who had to motivate you first. 152 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: So she actually came into my life in a season 153 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: where I was really about to give up. I was 154 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: about to stop doing social media and go full time 155 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: in corporate America, which I'm so glad that, you know. 156 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: I feel like the universe and God had was like, 157 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: we have something better for you. You better not give up today. 158 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: And on the day I was about to literally put 159 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: my pen down and say, you know what, hands up, 160 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: I'm good, I got an email from her, and she said, 161 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 3: introduce herself, and she said, listen, I've been watching you 162 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: for like a few months now, and you've really motivated 163 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: me to to, you know, do things in my life 164 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: that I was afraid to do, and you inspire me 165 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: and so many women, and I just want to see 166 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: if we can work together. I kind of just conquered 167 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: this space together. And I said yeah, I said, okay, 168 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: people are seeing you. You wanted you seeing me, I 169 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: was seeing you. And since that day she has whoa 170 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: like I can't even think this was two years ago. 171 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 3: At that point, I was overworked, I was in grad school, 172 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: I was sad, I was broke. I was just had 173 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: nothing to like kind of look forward to, even though 174 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: I was like really enjoying doing social media. And she 175 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: is the one who brought it to me and said, like, listen, 176 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: you have something in you that is special that people 177 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: would love to experience, that you can take far. And 178 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: so she's the one who continues to be like, I 179 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 3: know we are feeling like this, or I know you're 180 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 3: exhausted about this, or take time for yourself, but when 181 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: you're ready, come back and let's get back to business. 182 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 2: So that's lovely. 183 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: You know, because that's what you're doing now to worldwide 184 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: on the social media. Now you say you was doing 185 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: social media. I really to throwing the time this. I'm 186 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: just trying to whenever I talk to someone like you, 187 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: who's special, who's now found their brand, found their voice, 188 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: because that's what you found your voice. Now you're sharing 189 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: that voice worldwide. What are the trigger points for you 190 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: when you get up in the morning, and you, because 191 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: you're in your natural inspirational and I'm gonna just tear 192 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: you that up front. When I see you, I feel 193 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: the need to smile, I feel the need to, you know, 194 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: make sure you're happy. And I think that's important with 195 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: people like you. So what is the engagement points of 196 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: motivation when you get up in the morning. 197 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: So I have a pretty strict routine, and so I 198 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: make sure the morning especially it's for me because I 199 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: think it's so easy to get sucked into like I'm 200 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: getting up and I'm going on social and all these things. 201 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: And so I get up, I try and get in 202 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: my thirty minute heartgo walk, put on my skin, kichen. 203 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: What is the hot girl walking? 204 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: And I don't let that slid past meetings to go 205 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: through What is the hot girl walk, Girl walk. 206 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: Everybody needs to rishond. You need to get on your 207 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: hot go work energy too. I do my skincare and 208 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: I normally put on like my ie mask and my 209 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: face my face mask, my sheep mask, and I go 210 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 3: and strut around Brooklyn listening to music, kind of just 211 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: getting my energy up for the day. I love it. It's exciting. 212 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: I feel great. I'm also doing a little skincare so 213 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: I can be glowy as soon as I get back home. 214 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: So my it's thirty minutes of moving my body and 215 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: also reminding myself, like you know, my body can move 216 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: like I'm living in this you know temple. I can 217 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: be outside doing my thing, you. 218 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: Know, and I've just. 219 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: And so that, you know, thirty minutes hard god walk, 220 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: I'm feeling great. I come back and normally either pray 221 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: or I call my parents because love the favorite people 222 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: in the world. Talk to them. They're also my greatest 223 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: point of like motivation. My dad is the original noordinary 224 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: no are. He loves the camera. He loves to be 225 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: buggy and fine, and I feel like I get it 226 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 3: from him too, So he's he's always telling me a change, 227 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: today's your tea today. You can do whatever you want today. 228 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 3: You can be amazing both. I'm gonna have a great 229 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: day after that. 230 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 231 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 232 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: Conversations Masterclass, hosted by Rashaan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Masterclass 233 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 4: continues online at Moneymakingconversations dot com and follow money Making 234 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 4: Conversations Masterclass on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 235 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: Here's the funny part. You went into an accent where 236 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: you start doing your dad. 237 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: You went from this perfect English to this African avert 238 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: together everything. 239 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: Okay, what did that come from? 240 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 2: Does her dad really talk like that with that accent? 241 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, oh, change do it. You're gonna be great. Yes, absolutely. 242 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: And so. 243 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: Those are like two of my really big things that 244 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 3: get me motivated. And I always do affirmations as well. 245 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 3: My best affirmation is you're safe within yourself, You're loved vibrantly, unconditionally, 246 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: and you're going places. 247 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: Kids. 248 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: We got things to do, places to go, things to experience. 249 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: Now, two years ago you said what your manager, Well, 250 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: dad wasn't there. Okay, Yeah, you know that motivation, that 251 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: person looking your eyes and telling them does she see 252 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: what you don't see yet? Now you see it now? 253 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: And your social media? Every reason I could going back 254 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: to your manager because I always tell people everybody you know, 255 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: your parents, you know, they're gonna support you. 256 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: They supposed to support you. 257 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: It's the strangers that come in and see you. 258 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: That's what catch you off gard And I think that's wow. 259 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: What did she say? 260 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: Real? 261 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 2: Okay? 262 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: So now we're going to go to the Sports Illustrated 263 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Swimsuit because all this happened in two years. 264 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: Miss miss hot Walk, how girl walk? Okay? 265 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: How did that come about? Did you submit? 266 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: Folks? 267 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: You sub miss photo? Did you have interviews? Were you 268 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: were you doing some things that led up to that moment? 269 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: Because I know people want to know how that experience 270 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: comes about for anybody, How did they come about for you? 271 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: So Sports Illustrated Swimsuit has an swim search opportunity and 272 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: they do it every year. And so I said, listen, 273 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: this year is going to be my year. So I 274 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: put in a video and I sent it in, sent 275 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: it in with the grace of God. I say, please, 276 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: this has to be my portion. It has to be 277 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: mine because I know I deserve that opportunity and that 278 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: position and that space. And I sent it in and 279 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: I thought it was fabulous and gorgeous. And a few 280 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: months I was actually in Kenya and I get an 281 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: email in the middle of the night saying, oh, you 282 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: have been selected for Top twelve as the way top 283 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: twenty four. 284 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: I said to me, okay, okay, you just sent a 285 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: video in. Yeah, so you send up making Top twenty four. 286 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: So you send a video talking about yourself, what inspires you, 287 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: what makes you happy, what makes you wake up in 288 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: the morning, why you think you'd be a great up, 289 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: like a great person to be part of the Rookies. 290 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: So it wasn't just a video of me being cute, 291 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: which I think can also work, but it was I 292 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: was talking about my story and what inspires me and 293 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: why I love SI and why I think it's important 294 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: to have people. 295 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: So your story, you feel, was a dominant component of 296 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: you being selected at least in the top twenty four. 297 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely, because for me, my biggest thing with my platform 298 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 3: and my brand is to make sure that women who 299 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: look like me and talk like me, and have the 300 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 3: same life experiences as me, have a platform and have 301 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: a space where they can feel seen because we can't 302 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: just wait for the next Lupitza Yogo to show up, right, 303 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: we can't wait for the motivation and why we can't 304 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: wait for the inspiration. So it just has to be you. 305 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: So why not we? You know? And so I sent 306 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: in a video about you know, my life and my 307 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: story and why I think that's important. And I got 308 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: selectually for top twenty four, then got down to top twelve, 309 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: and just last summer before I walk the Sports Illustrated 310 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: swim Suit show in Miami, I got picked as the 311 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: top seven and got announced as rookie, which is so exciting. 312 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: Wow. You know, you know, I know. 313 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: It's a lot of the things you left out because 314 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: you know it was a journey. You know, it's not 315 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, we could say she went from you know, 316 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: I wrote this beautiful story about me. 317 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: I just sit in there. I'm sending it. 318 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: Ken you get this email up the top twenty four. 319 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm walking a runway and never realized bad I'm a rookie. 320 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: I'm a rook. 321 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: But that's you know something, when you start telling your story, 322 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: it is that easy because you decided to make an effort, 323 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: and a lot of people stop themselves will go to 324 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: by not making that effort. And that's what I always 325 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: talk about and this show. I always tell you some 326 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: of my biggest enemies are ourselves. I always tell people 327 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: when you look you over said, when you wake up, 328 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, look in the mirror, and 329 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: that's me. You know, it's not gonna change. I'm not 330 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: suddenly become white. I'm not suddenly gonna become small. My 331 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: skin complex is not gonna change. My teeth aren't. 332 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: Getting any whiter. This is me. You have to live 333 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: in it. 334 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: And I also believe what you are delivering, it's what's 335 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: going to win. And that's what I come across with 336 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: you. Your parents gave you the foundation in your manager. 337 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: Was the uplift, the uplift in your life. 338 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: And now as you sit here and we're talking about 339 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: being twenty twenty four Sports Illustrated Swimsuit rookie, what do 340 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: you mean? What do you think that means for people 341 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: in America who see you and most important people back 342 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: in Kenya. 343 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 3: I think it shows that literally anyone, anyone can do it. 344 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: You just have to have that little I just an 345 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: ounce of belief in yourself can take you so far. 346 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: I have gotten so much rejection in my life from working, 347 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 3: from you know, relationships, through life. And if I did 348 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: not have that little belief in myself that that rejection 349 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: was just redirecting me to the sweet spot I needed 350 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: to be in so I could be the best version 351 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: of myself, then I wouldn't be sitting here with you, Rashaan, kicking, 352 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 3: you know, having fun. 353 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: You know, I got to say this to you because 354 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: you know, some time. 355 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: We use that word like anybody, you're not anybody. Let 356 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: me go and just say that, you know, you're not 357 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: You're not. Don't be realm it, don't be real because 358 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: of the fact that it's a lot of beautiful people 359 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: out there. There's a lot of people got that high 360 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: girl walk okay, but do there? Because I do social media, 361 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: it's a task to motivate people. It's a task to 362 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: get up and respond to people who respond to your motivation. 363 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: It's a lot of work to do to be you. 364 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 2: You know, let's gon be real. Double a. 365 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm telling you double a okay because of the fact 366 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: that if you understand that, then you you know, people 367 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: appreciate you even more. And so when I got out 368 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: of the opportunity to interview you. I grew up with 369 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: six sisters, and so six sisters in America African American 370 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: black women of color, and they've all been told what 371 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: they can do. 372 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: When I see somebody like you. When you stepped in for. 373 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: The shoot, did you feel surreal or did you feel 374 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: that you were making a statement of making a difference. 375 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: What were your thoughts at the shoot. 376 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: First of all, it was the best day of my life. 377 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: It was very much I don't know how to describe this. 378 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: There's many spaces I've walked in where I feel like 379 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 3: an imposter syndrome, like I don't know if I really 380 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: belong here, But on that day, it was such a 381 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: dale of confirmation for me that I am exactly where 382 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: I need to be, doing exactly what I'm supposed to 383 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: be doing around the people, and I'm supposed to be 384 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 3: around so I it was insane. It was surreal. First 385 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: of all, were shooting in a beautiful location. 386 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 5: My skin was glowing, the music history, the water looked beautiful, 387 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 5: and I can't Also, I'll make sure to send you 388 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 5: a copy once it comes up, because we gotta celebrate that. 389 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm it better be an autogram. 390 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna if you send me a plain magazine, I'm 391 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: gonna be so mad that I'm gonna go on social 392 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: media said I. 393 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: Got the hot girl walk from a Gutu and she 394 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 2: didn't even send me no magazine. 395 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: Same on that rookie. 396 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: Your rookie, I'm gonna call you an amateur. It's autographed every theater. 397 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: But it was a very special day and honestly a 398 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 3: confirmation for a lot of hard work that I put 399 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: into my career and what I do every day. So 400 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 3: it was amazing. That's all you need to know. 401 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: Okay, let me so, let me just talk about my perception. 402 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be personality driven. Absolutely, it's gonna be motivating. 403 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: I gotta sell the people because then you can't tell. 404 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell from a guy who's been there, 405 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: working with a fantastic talent. 406 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: And an interview. This is what you're gonna get. 407 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: First of all, you're gonna get, Yes, First of all, 408 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: gonna get that double a. I called her hot girl 409 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: walk all day, loan out all day loan Shes gonna 410 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: be motivated. 411 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: Yes, he's gonna be uplifted. 412 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: More importantly, honest, Yes, very very honest. Yes, Because you're 413 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: going to tell us because you've been there for us. 414 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: You've been there, and I think that's what's important. I 415 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: think that's what is accelerating your success right now because 416 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: you I don't. 417 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: I don't. 418 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: Nothing you've told me in this interview feels contrived. Nothing 419 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: feels fake, even when I teach you by going into 420 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: your father's accent, you know, because that's the honest side 421 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: of you. 422 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: And and you go through these things. 423 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: And are you gonna get into potential clothing lines or 424 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 1: anything like that, any speaking tours or any acting I 425 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: know this show is here, but it's just another stepping 426 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: stone or what that fantastic manage you have is delivering 427 00:22:59,440 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: for you. 428 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: Yes, I think I want to give my audiences experiences. 429 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 3: I don't think having a tangible product will do a 430 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: lot for my audience at this point. Like you know, 431 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 3: get a cute outfit. You can get a cute for 432 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: outfit anywhere, you know what I mean. But I want, 433 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: I have. We have toyed with this for so long, 434 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: and I think like a retreat or a confidence tour 435 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: is something that I'm looking up or looking into and 436 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 3: something that I think would be fun and exciting and 437 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: would actually make a difference in people's lives. So definitely 438 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: that's what I'm thinking about that I'm gonna be doing 439 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: way more speaking engagements this year. So whoever is watching, 440 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: I might be in your city at some point. It 441 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 3: coming keiky and hang out with me. But I think 442 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: for me, this is the year of the Superstar. Yes, absolutely, 443 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: for me, this is the year of the Superstar, and 444 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 3: I'm just ready to take it to the moon. 445 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: Wow, you know first of all, and thank you for 446 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: coming to my shelle asolutely. Thank you for blessing me. 447 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: With having it. 448 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: You know. 449 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: You know, I get up at four thirty in the morning, 450 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: so these days can get long, and I do a 451 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: lot of these interviews and I've been laughing. I've been 452 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: joking to Rob and asking you court, this doesn't even 453 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: feel life work. 454 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: This another job. 455 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: I love it, and I think that's the fun part 456 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: of what you're gonna bring to the table. And my 457 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: whole goal in life is to help build your brain. 458 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: You don't know me. 459 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm a family member, and I okay. Down in Atlanta, 460 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: you said you know somebody. Yeah, I know Rashan mcdull. 461 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: Oh you can let them know that that's my boy. 462 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: You can put that's my boy tied to it because 463 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take care of my bout Rashaun McDonald lived 464 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: down there. Okay, cool, because when you come down here, 465 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take care of you your but more important, 466 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: thank you for taking care of me because I now 467 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: owe you a faith for coming on Money Making Conversations 468 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: Master Class. 469 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you so much. I had such a great time. 470 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: Can't wait to see your hard go work videos, your 471 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: approbation videos. 472 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 2: Oh you know, you know we we go go viral. 473 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna go Vira, were gonna go, we go go. 474 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: To make sure I got to is the shoulders run. 475 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: It's the shoulders and out in the shoulders shot. 476 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: Thank you. I really appreciate you for coming on my show. 477 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you so much for having me. 478 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us for this edition of Money 479 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 4: Making Conversations Master Class. 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