1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: What do you now think the husband should do, because 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: now the husband should do before even past you can't 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: reconcile because she's not going to reckons agreed. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: I think you cut your losses, and I think you 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: like you know, like I think you walk a lonely 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: rode because like it's the only road that you have 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: ever known and you might not know where it goes. 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: But let's get into this next week at it. So, 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to clear up some questions from the last 10 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: post that I didn't really answer in the update. So 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: what did Alessa ever do that made you want to 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: go so nuclear? Honestly, nothing in particular. Like I said, 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: for the past few years, our friendship has been for 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: convenience at best. We've basically been best friends because we 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: know each other so well and we have at least 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: one friend in common. Alissa has always had qualities I 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: don't agree with, but who doesn't. Also, the sometimes the 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: like childhood friendships carried over, you can just grow so 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: differently and your grandfather did. It's the whole thing. I 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: think it was just a whole situation that made my 21 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: blood boil, especially since Alissa has always been disgusted by cheaters. Wow. 22 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: She was the kind of person to cut dozens of 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: people out of her life if it meant not supporting 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: someone's in fidela. So for her to make a complete 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: one eighty and not even have guilt for it, it 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: just grinds my gears. That's part of the reason I 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: think she's having some sort of mental breakdown. Not only 28 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: is it hypocritical, it's extremely autive character and even for 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: her next question, are you in love with Noah the 30 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: friend's husband? Of course, not singing someone's praises and trying 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: to portray their genuine and good person doesn't automatically mean 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: you want to sleep with them. Our relationship has been 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: nothing more than platonic for the entire time I've known him, 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: because he loved Alissa, and I love their happiness. I 35 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: love my husband, and literally only ever saw Noah like 36 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: a brother. Logic please, and we have some quick relevant 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: comments where Opie responds lost wind Talker says, I hope 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: he has some self respect and dignity and goes through 39 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: with the divorce. If he decides to inform their employer, 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: tell him to do it after the divorce and after 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: getting money. If he gets any Opie says, as much 42 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: as I love the guy, he basically worships the ground 43 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: that Alyssa walks on. If she came to the door 44 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: right now and said sorry, with even no remorse behind it, 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm ninety nine percent sure he'd pretend like the last 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: four months were a fever dream. 47 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: Whoa, she's got him wrapped around his finger. Her finger 48 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: aund wrapped. 49 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: Lost Winterker Talker responds to that that mentality alone is 50 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: why she is walking all over him. She knows he 51 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: will stay put. Dude is setting himself up for a 52 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: lifetime of heartache. Time heals all wounds unless you keep 53 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: picking at the scab. Damn, that's a bar too, any 54 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: bar that's really good? 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: Okay, but wait, dude, It's like there's something like, uh, 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: I opened my heart and she gave it at this 57 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: and she gave it a sab. 58 00:02:54,639 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: Time keeping a scab. That's crazy. Someone's that's really good? 59 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: Oh man, guys, this is the moment that we've all 60 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: been waiting for, the update from nine days been waiting for, 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: and it's it is so fat. 62 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: In one corner you have Op going scorchers on all 63 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: the people, and the other you have Noah in a 64 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: corner crying. 65 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this before we get into this. 66 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: Op is a good friend of Noah's. She she sees 67 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: that like even if she says sorry with nothing behind it, 68 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: he'll go back to her. Should Ope still be involved 69 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: in as a friend helping Noah navigate and being a 70 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: slight accountability partner and making sure that he, you know, 71 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: does what's best for him goes through the divorce, not 72 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: like not in an overly in like a supportive friend 73 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: way and not a like do this kind of way. 74 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying. 75 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: I have been in this position before where I like, like, 76 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: uh kind of like getting someone else's life a little 77 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: bit on track. Yeah, with like a relationship that was 78 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: like like going through a difficult period, and uh, something 79 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: that I felt is like and say, this is the 80 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: philosophy that I have is you only know like ten 81 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: percent of someone's relationship, and so they might be coming 82 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: to you with like all these problems, but like there's 83 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: a reason that they're they're they're they're staying in it. 84 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: So I think what you can do is you can 85 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: offer yourself as moral and emotional support and like just 86 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: like reflect what you're seeing and what you're saying to them. 87 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: But I don't think you can give like hard and 88 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: fast advice on like stay away from this person or 89 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: even though you might want to, because I think it, 90 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: like the end of the day, you just really don't 91 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: know what a relationship looks like. Fully, even even though 92 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: like what we're seeing is terrible, the tip of the 93 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: iceberg is is not nice. I think it's really it's 94 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: really hard to uh to give hard and fast advice. 95 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 2: But like Van Campus says, accountability buddy, for sure, accountabily buddy, 96 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: countability buddy, Old buddy Kimbi find says, be a little 97 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: co signer, stand behind him and throw out some starting Yeah, 98 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: we needs a hype up. 99 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: There's the door, and then. 100 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't let it hit you where the good lards 101 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: blake you? Yeah, I'm curious poll uh push Noah or not? 102 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: Do we push Noah to day? I'm I would in 103 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: literally every other scenario, I would agree with what you're saying, 104 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: but I might I might disagree this time. I am 105 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: debating in my head and gonna read this update to decide. 106 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 1: But I feel like she has so much context. I mean, listen, 107 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: they they've shared the location exactly that's true. It's true. 108 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: They know and they've been they've they've known each other 109 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: for a decade over. 110 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm almost like, is this a scenario? Is 111 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: this a very rare educase scenario where kind of pushing 112 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: him harder than just the you know, the echoing support 113 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: would be. But then she's also she Opie has shown 114 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: that she could easily go for nuke full nuclear. I 115 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I think it could be a little bit 116 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: more heavy handed. 117 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: But like generally, generally, I think emotional support and like 118 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: Nikki Bordo is like, remember this awful thing they did 119 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: and how you felt. That's agree that that's a good reflection. Yeah, 120 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 2: AQ says, don't push, offer support for whatever he wants 121 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 2: to do. 122 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's the move. So far, one 123 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: hundred percent of people are saying not Oh, there we go. 124 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: Twenty percent. All right, so chat, vote, vote in the poll. 125 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Let's get into this. That final nuclear update, final update. 126 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: So we're okay, okay, we're here, We're here here, said 127 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: Buckle in, let us listen, got juice. It's got juice. 128 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: Nine days later, well, I didn't expect to be back 129 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: so soon, but the last week has basically been a 130 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: speed run of terrible events. This will probably be my 131 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: last update it is, so feel free to consider this 132 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: the conclusion of the events. Everything bad that could have 133 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: happened has happened sweets in nine days. The past two 134 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: days specifically have been absolutely horrible. Sorry, if this is 135 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: all over the place, I'm still over all over the place. 136 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: So I don't know if it was the day she 137 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: left or the day after, but Alyssa and the affair 138 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: partner did go on their vacation. The only reason I 139 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: know is because she posted pictures all over social media 140 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: of her and her partner choking. She has absolutely no shame, 141 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: no shame, no shame. That's crazy that someone would do that. 142 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: I like monster. 143 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: So at this point, like it feels like it's going 144 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: past I'm being manipulated by some weird subreddit and going 145 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: towards like maybe psychopath tendency a little bit right, because 146 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: like this is like just not and I don't I 147 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: don't want to throw that term around, like like like 148 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: who does that? 149 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: This is like very intentional, like knife twisting, zero empathy, 150 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: zero zero zero. 151 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: So so she just posted pictures with her boss on 152 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: the trip, So what were. 153 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: Just yeah, yeah, she just tried to picture with her 154 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: boss on the trip. Are you saying? Could it be 155 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: interpreted as like. 156 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: No, I'm asking because someone said slide the top said 157 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 4: can we please tell her job? 158 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: Now? 159 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be kind of obvious to her? Like people 160 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 4: can't find that? 161 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, well yeah, right now. It might be a 162 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: takeing time bomb. At this point, she's trying to implode 163 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: her life. He's trying to implode her life. Well, it 164 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: was very clear that even if she wasn't divorced, this 165 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: was her new boyfriend, which of course notified her family 166 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: of the issues. Noah's phone was blowing up with apologies, accusations, 167 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: everything you could think of. Noah being the people pleaser 168 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: that he is, decided to tell her family they were 169 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: on a mutual break instead of telling everyone that she 170 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: cheated and that that person was the affair Parker. Alyssa's 171 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: mom fortunately didn't believe him and came to me. I 172 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: didn't hold back. I told her that she's been cheating 173 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: on Noah for months, and that she recently bragged me 174 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: about her sugar daddy affair partner, and that the only 175 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: reason she's coming and that h and that is the 176 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: only reason she's come clean to Noah. Alyssa's mom then 177 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: dropped a bomb on me that I didn't even know. 178 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: Alyssa is a serial cheeter. Oh this is far from 179 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: the first time. Ladies and gentlemen, Noah and Noah stayed dude. 180 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Hashtag hashtag free Noah, hashtag free Noah, Noah. Just say 181 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: the comments, just say no no flood it flood the 182 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: comments hashtag free mother freaking Noah, Noah, get on the boat. 183 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: Please please bring friends with you and not Alissa. She's 184 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: a cheetah that you don't want to bring with you. 185 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: I want to have those things reproduce. Her mom said 186 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: in high school that Alyssa would bring boys home under 187 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: the guys of school projects or sports related things. But 188 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: she caught Alyssa kissing two different boys. Mind you, this 189 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: is not in her home. Wait, let me double check, 190 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: let me double check. Oh no, this is Alyssa's mom. 191 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: This. 192 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: For a second, I thought it was she was cheating. 193 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: Is seeing all this while like like, she's seeing all 194 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: this and never said anything to Noah. 195 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: We don't know that. But they've been dating since high school. 196 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: We might be building up to this. Oh, because Noah, 197 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: no time, and no one knows. 198 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: We've been saying no, Noah, don't accept it, but Noah 199 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: has always. 200 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: Known, maybe has no no. She said she didn't think 201 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: much of it and just chalked it up to being 202 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: a crazy, hormonal teenager, like there's a phase, basically. She 203 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: also said she never expected her to marry her high 204 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: school boyfriend, but by the time they were married, she 205 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: figured that Alyssa had stopped doing all this stuff. Neither 206 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: her nor I have any idea if she's done anything 207 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: like that since high school through to the present, but 208 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in digging into it further. So she 209 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: saw her like basically cheating a bunch of high school 210 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: She's like, it's a phase. Doesn't know if it's gone 211 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: beyond them and when they were actually married. 212 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: But they so dex Casana said, this is when she 213 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: was in school. They were dating already. It's high school, 214 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: high school sweetheart exactly. They were in a relationship one 215 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 2: hundred percent. So this explains why Alyssa was just so 216 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: nonchalant about cheating, because apparently she's always shocked. I'm guessing 217 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: her girl brass friends awoke something inside her, and she 218 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: remembered how easily and nonchalantly she could cheat, and it 219 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: inspired her to just do it again. 220 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, I will be honest. I kind of 221 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: yelled at her mother, something I'm not proud of. Like 222 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: I said in previous posts, Alissa's mom is basically my mom, 223 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: so formalities and everything aren't something I think about. When 224 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: I talked to her, so I freaked out and I 225 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: told her that she set up Noah for this kind 226 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: of life when he could have found somebody ten times better. 227 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: She took it like a champ and just let me 228 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: vent until I was calm again. I apologized for yelling, 229 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: but calmly said, you and I both know Noah deserved better. 230 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: You should have said something before he got married to her. 231 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: She agreed, but said it's too late to focus on 232 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: that now and that the real issue at this time 233 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: is supporting Noah. Again, this is Alyssa's mom being like, 234 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: you know, so close. I mean, yeah, yeah. I told 235 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: her if she wanted to support Noah, she could have 236 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: told HI, miss fiance was a cheat or ten years 237 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: ago and hung up on her. I I've since talked 238 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: to her. We're fine, but I was mad at her 239 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: at the moment. I just want to take a pause 240 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: right here. We're far from over, We're a quarter of 241 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: the way through this juicy update. But I think that 242 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: this is like another time that Opie's kind of shown 243 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: that she kind of like very quickly, like she wanted 244 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: to go nuclear. She she yelled at at Alyssa's mom, 245 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: who's like, who's like a mom to her? You know 246 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: one do you think that was crossing a line? She 247 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: has a close relationship with her, But she kind of 248 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: a talked for. 249 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I mean, like I understand what she's saying 250 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: in the sense of like if you knew, why didn't you, 251 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: you know, say anything before? But it I don't, like, 252 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: I mean, there's only so much I think as a 253 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 4: parent you can do with adult children. Yeah, Like, presumably 254 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: she hoped that Alissa was not cheating on Noah at 255 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: the time and probably didn't know that, you know, was 256 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: probably aware that does seem aware that she cheated in 257 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 4: pass relationships, was like hopefully. 258 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: Not this one. Yeah, so yeah, the only thing we 259 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: knew for sure was she knew she did she was 260 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: cheating and getting with other boys while they were dating 261 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: in high school and just assumed it was or there 262 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: maybe maybe it wasn't dating one hundred percent, but they were, 263 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it was together to an extent. 264 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she definitely should have said something if 265 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: she knew, and and Noah didn't know, I don't know. 266 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I also to my earlier thought of like, should 267 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: should she kind of push Noah? I think that I 268 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: don't trust her. I think she's like quick to uh, 269 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: quick to frustration. Yeah, very impulsive, very impulsive, thank you. 270 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: That's what I was looking for. And that quality being 271 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: there makes sure a bad person to be like pushing Noah. Yeah, 272 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: towards that so echo echo anything he wants to do. 273 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, don't don't push him outside of anything he's 274 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: not ready for. In the moment, I would say, that's 275 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: that's my call right now. But let's get back into it. 276 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: So next thing that happened was the photos that got 277 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: back to a colleague photos and both of them were 278 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: out a job before the vacation was even over. It's done. 279 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: Oss a fair partner and Alssa fired ow. Well, they 280 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: posted all of their pictures. Yep, they were so stupid. 281 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: What do they expect thought they could hide it? You 282 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: freaking idiots didn't even try to hide it as I 283 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: assumed their workplace was extremely upset and did consider Alyssa 284 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: getting the promotion favoritism, and they were both let go. 285 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: Noah told me there was at least three hr complaints 286 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: about them already, so it was a no brainer. Of course, 287 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: the beautiful relationship Alyssa and her affair partner had turned 288 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: sour as soon as he learned that he was let 289 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: go from his six figure job because of her. He 290 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: was so pissed he even canceled Alyssa's plane ticket back 291 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: home out of spite. 292 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 4: Okay, this guy's stupid. 293 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: What do you mean, What does he mean because of Alyssa? 294 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: It's because of him? 295 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: But is this is this? Is this a man of sound, 296 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: empathy and logic. No, maybe he didn't think Alyssa would post, 297 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: so it's like, oh, you you posted us. That's what 298 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: got fired or that's what go was fired. Possibly, possibly, 299 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: But this bro is an absolute lunatic maniac. Possibly, I mean, 300 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: this is like he's abusing his power. It could it could, 301 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: It could be even grosser than oh we know now, 302 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: but we'll leave that to the side for now. He 303 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: was so pissed and he'd play to leave her strand 304 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: at there on the vacation. So what a what a 305 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: whack dude? Dude, disgusting, disgusting. This is where all of 306 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: you will be disappointed, and so am I. But Noah 307 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: immediately forgave her, bought her no no bought her a 308 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: plane ticket home, and moved her back in with him. 309 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: You know, she's just going through a phase. You know, 310 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: she's a ten years you know, it's like it's like 311 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: a decade cycle. This was like the first decade, and 312 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: then it'll be like another decade, you know, where she's 313 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: like kind of like feels a little bad. 314 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: It's a little little, you know, and then the third decade. 315 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: You're a feminist woman, be free. You know, they're not 316 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: caged animals. 317 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: They can't. 318 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, be within the bounds of monogamy. Sometimes you just 319 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: gotta let you gotta let them fly. 320 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: She just gotta sleep with your boss, like a little 321 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: or a lot, you know, like a little and hey, 322 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: you know, added benefit, more money for the family. Whoa 323 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: look at that. Hey, everyone's winning. 324 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: You know a lot of people sleep with their boss, 325 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: But do a lot of people sleep their way to 326 00:16:59,400 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: the top. 327 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: You know, it takes a certain kind of person to 328 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: be able to do that sleeping your way to the 329 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: top while giving top Wow. Look at that. 330 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: See there's sloppy toppy and then there's precise topy, and 331 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: I feel like this ladyship is a precision. 332 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: Toppy Wow wow wow Wow. She told him that it 333 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: was all just a huge mistake, and seeing how her 334 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: affair partner treated her made her realize what she could 335 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: have lost, or maybe that she was now without a 336 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: support system because he would not take her in. You decide, 337 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: it's obviously all bs to me and husband and my husband, 338 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: but you already know that Noah ate this crap up. 339 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: He's told us that he's urging her to go to 340 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: couples counseling, but of course it's not an ultimatum, so 341 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: basically she just got to have her cake and eat 342 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: it with no consequences. We told Noah previously and reminded 343 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: him that if he decided to take back Alisica that 344 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: we were at the very least going to go no 345 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: low contact. At the very least. We kept to our 346 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: word and have completely blocked a lit us a and 347 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: have no unblocked, but we don't plan to engage in 348 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: small talk or invitations to stuff that's a good move. Yeah, 349 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: I thing off his only support system. I would love to. Uh, 350 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: let's let's pull that too. I'm very curious on the 351 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: chat and and and write your thoughts in the comments below. 352 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 2: I'm extremely curious to conduct. I'll go no contact with 353 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: Alsa for sure? 354 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, Noah, I'm not sure. I don't know. 355 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: Now we refuse to be like him and act like 356 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: this just never happened. He understood, but told us that 357 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: he has to stand by the vows that he made 358 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: to his wife, which we both understand to an extent. 359 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: He didn't I mean exactly, you know, I just but 360 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: if they both bolt though not, don't stick with them, you. 361 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: Know, exactly. Two wrongs don't make a right exactly. 362 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 3: You know. 363 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: It's like it's like, you know how like a bridge 364 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: has multiple fail states, like if like the suspension with 365 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: the cords break, like there's like the concrete that that 366 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: backs it up. 367 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: He's the concrete the backs of up with. He's the concrete. 368 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: And he has been stretched and wiggled out. 369 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: He has been wiggled. Yeah, he has been used and abused, 370 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: but he's sticking strong. 371 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: Seven Level seven earth quated. 372 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: What is it? 373 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: Seven Richter scale earthquake or whatever it is. 374 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, honestly, eight Richter scale earthquake, I think you 375 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: know we're getting is as bad as it gets. This is, well, 376 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 2: then that might be nine, I think the worst worst. 377 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever had more than a nine 378 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: Richter scale on Earth on Earth, well, because we. 379 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: Have that, we've recorded that, We've recorded. 380 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Richter scales are go up exponentially, so like 381 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: like like a seven is like eight, eight is ten 382 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: times worse than a seven, and a nine is ten 383 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: times worse than eight, and a ten ten times worse. 384 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: Than a nine. Who and the biggest has like ever 385 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: been like nine point something that sounds like this, Yeah, 386 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: in summary, So yeah, unless I got to sleep with 387 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: another man, go on a nice vacation, lose your job 388 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: and still get to bed and a husband to come 389 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: home to, all's well that ends well. I don't know 390 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: how to feel about that. Like, if they want to 391 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: live their effed up broken marriage life, that's their choice. 392 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm not even mad anymore. I'm just drained. I can 393 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: understand that. I'm almost glad it's over now, because I 394 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: don't know if I could deal with this for months 395 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: on end. I knew this was going to happen eventually. 396 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: It's just who Noah is. But this feels but it 397 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: just feels as idiotic as it sounds. I don't know 398 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: if I'm just rambling. At this point, I'm glad we 399 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: decided to step back because honestly, both of them have 400 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: very clear psychological issues that need to be addressed with 401 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: a professional, but neither of them will ever do that. 402 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: I'd rather be rid of people like this. Sorry if 403 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm being blunt or mean, but at the end of 404 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: the day, both of them have issues I didn't sign 405 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: up to deal with. I don't need this kind of 406 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: stress while hubby and I are trying for kids. So yeah, 407 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: this is it, I guess. Yep. There's a few quick 408 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: relevant comments, but just to put a pin on the 409 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: question we asked earlier, which is do we go low contact? 410 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: Currently chat more votes get him in. Currently one hundred 411 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: percent of chat is saying it's a good move to 412 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: cut contact with Noah and be out of this. I 413 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: think now at this point I do agree with it. 414 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 2: I would go no contact with Alissa, I would go 415 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 2: low con I would go lower contact. Yeah, Hey, I'm 416 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: here for you if you ever need it, But I 417 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: really don't think this is the best decision for you. 418 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: But it's also like, you know, they're like essentially like 419 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: family at this point, you know, yeah, like they've known 420 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: each other since since high school. 421 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: I think I would go probably virtually no contact, so 422 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: like very close to it. And I'm just getting this 423 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: sense that you know, op oh, And I think this 424 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: is what opis trying to convey to Opie. Could intervene, 425 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: could push him, could could do all these things, which 426 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: she's been active and involved in this whole process, and 427 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: it's highly likely that nothing ever changes and she just 428 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: gets tugged around in this crazy rollercoaster. So it's like, ultimately, 429 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, what's the point and 430 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: it is for battle to fight. 431 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little contact, although I know what you 432 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: guys think, but your answers in comments that was a 433 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: wild ride though. 434 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: Hell's why wellet that with these comments? So you dez 435 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: Ships twenty two says I feel for Noah. He's always 436 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: he'll always be a sucker for her, and she'll always 437 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: get away with anything, no consequences for anything. No contact 438 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: is an ultimatum. Sigh. No contact is not an ultimatum. Sigh, unbelievable. Now, 439 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: I think I feel like it's not MC minimum contact, 440 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: minimum contact, marriage count, marriage counseling. Marriage counseling is not 441 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: an ultimatum. Si, unbelievable. Maybe one day he'll catch her 442 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: with a guy in their own bed and he'll snap 443 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: out of it. You did the right thing the way 444 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: you handled it, and distance yourself right now. Don't turn 445 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: your back on Noah though. He's going to need people. 446 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: Not so it seems like, uh, they're against kind of 447 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: what we're saying, and like stay in contact and keep 448 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: kind of pushing him. Uh. Not so Religious now says 449 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: I feel no sympathy for Noah. He needs to find 450 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: his cahnus from wherever she hid them because she will 451 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: cheat on him again and again and he will always 452 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: stupidly take her back. You're completely justified from staying away 453 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: from that mess. I don't know if I agree with 454 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: the severity of that, because he seems like he's such 455 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: a good guy, but ultimately it's kind of like, yeah, 456 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: it does seem like he'll keep going back. So and 457 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: then Plastic Bottle says Noah's blind loyalty is sad. He 458 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: deserves better. He's choosing misery. But you can choose to 459 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: tap her profile and join us every single week day 460 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: at three PMPSD. You can. You can be your live. 461 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: Looking at craziness like this that you can come on. 462 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: But that's where we end. Wow, no I hope you 463 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: find peace and love. Please a way way away from 464 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 2: this drama. 465 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: If you're watching this Noah and have gotten away from her, 466 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: or just have an update, listen, well have you on 467 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 1: the show? Yeah, partner, you are being an American idiot, 468 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: that is right, but you can walk this holy road 469 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: not alone. Yeah, yeah, you got the whole. Ok. 470 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 4: Hope that you wake up when September it is October. 471 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: It's time to wake up. Come on, time to wake up. 472 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: But if you love us, make sure you wake up. 473 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 2: Subscribe We love you and see it at all