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Speaker 1: Coming up on To Get Loud Podcast. Yes, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: preview Commanders rams.

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Speaker 2: We have to.

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Speaker 1: We have to. We might the win.

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Speaker 3: Something about the mcribsfield by the McRib oh, probably both

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Speaker 3: the legend of how.

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Speaker 1: You know and everyone. It is To Get Loud Podcast

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Speaker 1: with Jenks and Smooth, presented.

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Speaker 2: By Seek Geek, the official taking a partner of the

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Speaker 2: Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 1: I haven't had breakfast, you know what, I'm hungry for?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: Damn me? What it is? Brother?

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Speaker 2: Because it's back. First of all, Happy bowing day, brother,

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Speaker 2: pamper day. Brother. You know what, at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, people don't understand. As we get older, the

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Speaker 2: birthdays are kind of different. My friend, what about you?

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Speaker 2: How do you feel? What happened?

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Speaker 1: Good? Bring us up the speed, Jks, I hit fifty.

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Speaker 1: That's a hard one.

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Speaker 2: Happy century, half century. Listen to me. Do you remember

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Speaker 2: we were young and we was like, man, by fifty,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be married.

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Speaker 1: Well, you don't even think about it.

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Speaker 2: Listen fifty years. Oh it's forty the new fifty. See.

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Speaker 2: I never bought into that. Now I think we get

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Speaker 2: better and look younger than our parents did. While there's

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Speaker 2: fifty years old but it's forty the new fifty.

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Speaker 1: You just feel fifty. Oh that would mean fifty is

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Speaker 1: a new sixty.

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Speaker 2: Hope, not fifty is a new sixty. I'm about to die.

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Speaker 2: You only get better with time, man, I appreciate you. Man,

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Speaker 2: what's your obsession with the macrib? I love the crib?

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Speaker 2: It changed your life.

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Speaker 1: Bro Let me tell. And I know what people said that, like,

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Speaker 1: do you know what's in that? I'm like, listen, you

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Speaker 1: know what it's in every fast food item. Like you're like,

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Speaker 1: don't yode, you know what's in the mccribb. You know

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Speaker 1: what's in the Big Mac or the lam fish? None

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Speaker 1: of It's great funny part about it. I don't order

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Speaker 1: the Big Mac like it's my favorite sandwich. But when

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Speaker 1: I go to McDonald's, which I call aka McDonald's, I

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Speaker 1: go in and I ask for the big Men and yeah,

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Speaker 1: the McDonald's that I go to they so used to

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Speaker 1: me because I don't like Big Mac sauce, but I

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Speaker 1: love the sandwich, so I get mayo instead, turn it

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Speaker 1: into the Big Mick sandwich. You see like me?

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Speaker 2: You love man, I'm not afraid to say it. Mayo

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Speaker 2: is one of them things that people like closet love.

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Speaker 2: Don't nobody want to just tell the word. Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I love mayo. You know people hate it. People hate it.

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Speaker 2: People hate it. I don't know why with a passion,

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Speaker 2: but hey, go to McDonald's telling me you want a

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Speaker 2: big mix sandwich with Mayo on it. Now, the McRib

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Speaker 2: I used to be, especially when we were young. I

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Speaker 2: couldn't wait for the McRib to come out. Yeah, then

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Speaker 2: I made my own. And then I found out that,

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Speaker 2: you know what, the mind tastes better than the original.

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Speaker 2: So that's when I found out of favor with the macrib.

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Speaker 2: But you you have a small addiction to it that

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Speaker 2: you got McRib socks and sweaters.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day, McDonald's used to send me a box,

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Speaker 1: and I mean a box.

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Speaker 2: Of McRib stuff. I'm talking like a sweat. I have

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Speaker 2: a sweater with a mc rib on it.

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Speaker 1: I've got him a grib plate, I've got him a

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Speaker 1: grib puzzle, i got him a ri caliler and McDonald's

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Speaker 1: they don't do this anymore, but back in the day

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Speaker 1: they would send me a sealed letter, personalized letter with

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Speaker 1: It was every year this happened.

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Speaker 2: Why did they find out about your addiction with there?

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Speaker 1: I would just I would put it on Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: then one day they found out about it, and they

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Speaker 1: started emailing me like, hey, hey, you love the McRib

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Speaker 1: took you up and that's the only thing I've ever

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Speaker 1: gotten from You could have got.

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Speaker 2: A million dollars, if not all over America when you

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Speaker 2: could have got a million dollars for endorsing him. I

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Speaker 2: would have loved to see you on the commercial biting

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Speaker 2: the macrie talking about over loving me.

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Speaker 1: We got a feast on the rams this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, little ramney, little ram meat.

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Speaker 1: You ever had ram meat? What's the weirdest meat you've

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Speaker 2: Before we get into this, well, compared to a ram

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Speaker 2: of eating goats? Okay, all right, so I think that's

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Speaker 2: the closest comparison you can get to ram meat. I

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Speaker 2: don't think I've ever purely had ram meat. But if

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Speaker 2: and a lighter, will come back with ramney. I believe

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Speaker 2: about you. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't I've never had m but you have Gator.

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Speaker 1: I've had gator. I had venison, I've had. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: I'm probably not, as I guess my palette probably hasn't

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Speaker 2: been expanded as much as you want to. About squirrel.

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Speaker 1: You've had squirrel, of course, I've had squirrel. No, it's good.

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Speaker 2: You know what. The meat is so fine?

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Speaker 1: That doesn't sound good.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's good. But don't think you're finna just

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Speaker 2: take big chunks of meat from a squirrel is a

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Speaker 2: very thin, like very thing, very gamey. You know. Some

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Speaker 2: people like to make squirrel soup and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: But I always tell people I'm never shocked with the

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Speaker 2: animal people eat because we eat with the environment bears.

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Speaker 2: So if you live in Colorado, you probably eat moose sometimes. Yeah, Anna,

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Speaker 2: you know that. So so you eat what the land bears.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. When you talk about the rams,

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Speaker 1: first of all, we all know Seama Vay used to

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Speaker 1: be here. Clearly, he's got a really good job to shave.

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Speaker 2: He's been great.

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Speaker 1: He's been great. You turn the town on that roster,

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Speaker 1: it looked like they were gonna be terrible sixty seven

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Speaker 1: right now. What sort of individual matchups are you looking

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Speaker 2: Offensive line versus the best defensive end, I mean, defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle of our generation Aaron Donald. All right, well, that's

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Speaker 2: the thing about this Rams roster.

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Speaker 1: It's very high end, and then there's a drop off.

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Speaker 2: No, then it's a middle. And then they got this

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Speaker 2: youth movement, like with the Pooking the cords of the

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Speaker 2: world and got they got a youth movement. And you

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Speaker 2: remember this was this was the team they say the

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Speaker 2: first rounds. Right, So at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: now they're having that big let's let's start to slowly rebuild,

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Speaker 2: reshape and rebate. But what they do got's a quarterback

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Speaker 2: got the mad scientists in McBay. They're sitting there drawing

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Speaker 2: all this stuff up. They will be a problem. There

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Speaker 2: was a problem for the Ravens, all right. There was

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Speaker 2: this is gonna be a had to be a team.

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Speaker 2: Not only do you got to have the matchups, you

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Speaker 2: need to win it. So the question is lost in

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Speaker 2: at center this week of what we're doing. Who's going

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Speaker 2: ahead to head with this guy? And can we finally

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Speaker 2: zero in on the one or two three people that

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Speaker 2: we must stop and can we address that and stop them?

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, I just want to get your thoughts on him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because when you say generational, yeah, that's not hyper beleeve no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no, this is a generation.

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Speaker 2: Hic go, a little gym, a little dirty gym. I

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Speaker 2: got if you look at the players, and that's why

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Speaker 2: I love Missippi State. Coach Cheryl was my coach. Everybody

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Speaker 2: know Coach Cheryl, that's the general at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day. Teams that he usually coaching plays, he usually coach.

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Speaker 2: We don't bring quantity, we bring quality. Well, he used

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Speaker 2: to coach at Pitt won and that's championship at Pitt.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: If you look at Pitt players for the last fifteen

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Speaker 2: to twenty years, you're talking about Leshaun McCoy, You talking

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Speaker 2: about Left fis Gerald, one of the best wide receivers

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Speaker 2: all the time. You talk about Aaron Donald, one of

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Speaker 2: the best de tayclers of all the time. So that

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Speaker 2: Pit or I mean school put don't put out many,

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Speaker 2: but the ones they do that, oh my god, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna be yellow jackets. Yeah, I cuss yellow jacket guys.

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Speaker 2: So I have to get kudos because people would say,

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Speaker 2: who's winning that battle between Pitt and Penn State? Right, Uh,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Pitt because if I put an

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Speaker 2: all pit team together from the last twenty years, and I.

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Speaker 1: Know all the back in the day, me and Joe Green.

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Speaker 1: So what I'm saying, if.

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Speaker 2: I put an all pit team together, I'm convinced they

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Speaker 2: would be a Penn State team at the last twenty years,

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Speaker 2: which is gonna have Levarrn Brown, sure, and and all

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Speaker 2: these guys, come on, man, do not sleep on pitch.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a good point every now and then if

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Speaker 1: you look back like you're saying, or.

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Speaker 2: If you decades you like that guy went to that

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Speaker 2: guy went to Pitt. It's always Pit always pushes something

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Speaker 2: out always, and it's always high quality. And I don't

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Speaker 2: think Aaron Donald gets his love all the time because

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Speaker 2: he's one of those I'm just gonna go do my

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Speaker 2: work and go home type of fellas, don't really have

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Speaker 2: to sell himself. Getting towards the end that the thing is,

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Speaker 2: I always wonder with player, especially with greatness, we rarely

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Speaker 2: retire with the team that drafted us. Yep. Can you

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Speaker 2: see him in another uniform, because at one point he

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Speaker 2: gonna be like, I don't want the rebuild anymore.

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Speaker 1: He almost didn't come back. Now you'all paid. But when

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Speaker 1: he said he was ready to walk away, I believed him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that was just a negotiating point. He

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Speaker 1: feels like a guy that when he's done, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: need to go and won't go out.

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Speaker 2: You know what. I can see him ending it and

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Speaker 2: maybe a Raven's oh yeah, one more shot, one more

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Speaker 2: you know, because everybody gets to them last couple of

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Speaker 2: years and say, you know what, I'm gonna go to

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Speaker 2: a team that's ready to make and ready to win

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Speaker 2: a championship. I could see him becoming a Raven or something,

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Speaker 2: you know. I don't see him jumping from there to

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Speaker 2: Seattle or something like that. I think he's gonna go

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Speaker 2: somewhere that is evidently I'm the missing piece to getting

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Speaker 2: this done.

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Speaker 1: I always find that fascinating too, when you think of

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Speaker 1: someone's career and you forget, like EMMITTT. Smith ended with

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Speaker 1: the car Cardinals, Joe Montana ended with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Jerry with the Seattle Seattle, which was crazy. Did Reggie

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Speaker 2: White put on another jersey?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he did or not.

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Speaker 2: So Dion ending with US Washington like it's always blown

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Speaker 2: away by I only remember you as this, Yeah, but no,

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Speaker 2: I was actually this, So it happens. It's part of it.

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Speaker 2: The key match up, at least one of the key

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Speaker 2: matchups certainly going to be that passing offense of the

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Speaker 2: Rams Sin it's his commander secondary and you.

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Speaker 1: Mentioned we know Cooper Cup, but pooking the chore up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe went to Washington and graduate from BYU

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Speaker 2: at fifth round draft pick. He's been awesome. No, he's

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Speaker 2: been awesome. And it just shows McVeigh because he looks

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Speaker 2: like a common copy of Cooper Cup. He looks like

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Speaker 2: Come on, guys, why not? Now you love Honda?

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Speaker 2: You know what we were talking to earlier, talking to

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Speaker 2: I'm shocked you didn't get on my shirt because it's

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Speaker 2: the color of Manila wafers, and it's the color of

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Speaker 1: I like it. Let's good.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I still use them. I still use them in

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Speaker 1: What is this? Like?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember how hard we like fault not to

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 2: And but I love that attitude, which is like, you

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Speaker 2: do offense. They can't even get it rolling. Yes, they

434
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Speaker 2: can't identify anything. Now they got to run to play

435
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Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty six Radniki style and get the wide

436
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Speaker 2: receiver to run the play in to the quarterback. Talk

437
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Speaker 2: in the huddle. Tell everybody, it just took all your

438
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Speaker 2: checks away. Yeah, it simplified the game. And now you

439
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,679
Speaker 2: have to play in a way that you cannot be

440
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Speaker 2: ahead of the sticks. So is it a setback?

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Speaker 1: Ah?

442
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 2: Yes, because communication is everything in this game. Now, why

443
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 2: does it always happen to the away team? I lead

444
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: it to your imagination, right, but it happens all the time,

445
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 2: not the first, not the last.

446
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Speaker 1: What stands out your man? We're talking about gamesmanship. It

447
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Speaker 1: could be anything, could be a coin flip, could be

448
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: a play not getting in, getting out, a referee doing

449
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Speaker 1: something and I'm not trying to call anyone in specific.

450
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying one time you saw something there and

451
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Speaker 1: gave me like, oh, we.

452
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Speaker 2: Do it all time, and defense back because I'll hold

453
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Speaker 2: you if they don't call it, it didn't happen, right. Oh,

454
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Speaker 2: I'm talking all kind of trade. You would never get

455
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Speaker 2: away from me. I just gave you seven years in jail,

456
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Speaker 2: just talking because guess what have you ever seen this

457
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Speaker 2: in DB's We do it so much where dude beat

458
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Speaker 2: us by like ten year hoards and then a quarterback

459
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Speaker 2: will overthrow it and then we'll be like.

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Speaker 1: That's that always gets me. I'm like, bro, I'm like,

461
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Speaker 1: if that passes made on the market, you get a burn.

462
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Speaker 1: But get what this guy's like.

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Speaker 2: If it was a fifth, we'll be drunk. That ain't

464
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Speaker 2: the way it goes. Baby. He did not complete that pass,

465
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Speaker 2: and I'm the reason why. But it was Jesus all alone.

466
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Speaker 2: He blew that wind.

467
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Speaker 1: In the.

468
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Speaker 2: US, it's corners. We don't care because we won that.

469
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Speaker 2: I run that down. Yeah, my job is trying to

470
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Speaker 2: win all sixty five downs. I gotta go against you,

471
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 2: and if throwing overthrowing it part of it, so bid.

472
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Speaker 2: But we're going to talk there and have those edges

473
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 2: in football, whatever I can get away with. It didn't happen.

474
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 2: If I held you, I was alive and basically hold

475
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 2: every play they it's just a matter of what you're

476
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Speaker 2: gonna ca the ref gonna call them or not. But

477
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 2: to them, I'm dominating you, holding you accountable. But at

478
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Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's that gamesmanship. I'm trying

479
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Speaker 2: to one up you. I know he liked this dig route,

480
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: so I'm a cheat by playing two yours inside for

481
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Speaker 2: stim have to run their dig route over top of me. Well,

482
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Speaker 2: I just found a cheek hole. But it's legal, not

483
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 2: from me studying, right, So it's all kind of and

484
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Speaker 2: that's why I get so fine. Line. Wait, if I

485
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Speaker 2: got to play against random hoss, I don't need no

486
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 2: mental edge. I need a physical edge, meaning I need

487
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Speaker 2: a physical safety over my head.

488
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Speaker 1: I need some help.

489
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Speaker 2: I need help, like I have been in the game

490
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 2: and been like you know what, nine one one.

491
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Speaker 1: Need your health.

492
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Speaker 2: It's a bad day at the office. It's a bad

493
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Speaker 2: day at the office. I need your help. Shaan t Hey,

494
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: I'm finna play him hard. I need you over the

495
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Speaker 2: top of me. Lee Sean springs over there by hisself.

496
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Speaker 2: I need your help today.

497
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Speaker 1: I never get tired of you the hard time.

498
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Speaker 2: That's my dude, that's my running mate. He's the best

499
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Speaker 2: robbing I ever had. You know what I'm saying, Ain't

500
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Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that, but that's them the things you

501
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 2: have to do. And I think people don't understand it's

502
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: such a thin line because we're always trying to find

503
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Speaker 2: an age. All right, French SMO don't like to check

504
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Speaker 2: comebacks because he played high and don't like to get

505
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Speaker 2: bedep where they gonna run comebacks on me until I stopped.

506
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they go football. Do you ever feel out?

507
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Speaker 1: I think this is an interesting topic because I love

508
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Speaker 1: the of cornerback. I really love the mentality because you

509
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: have to be it's you are going to get beat.

510
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Speaker 2: You are organized chaos. Yes, it's finest. And that's why

511
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: I labeled myself like, if I had my clique, my way,

512
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: that's the new thing they do now, I would just

513
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: have the joker, because if you don't have the joker's

514
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: mentality of chaos and controlling it and not caring what

515
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Speaker 2: the outcome is, you cannot be the villain you need

516
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Speaker 2: to be because it's a corner. You a villain. You

517
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Speaker 2: cheat still in lie at all times, like that's what

518
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Speaker 2: you do. Play in this position. And if you get

519
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Speaker 2: beat fifty yours for the first quarter, for a touchdown

520
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Speaker 2: twenty five and a second, you have to still be

521
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Speaker 2: insane and you can still lock it down. You gotta

522
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Speaker 2: be insane to the point where you're laughing. You're laughing

523
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Speaker 2: when things are going so bad, but in your mind

524
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Speaker 2: you also know, I got to forget that. Yeah, I

525
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: got a game to play. So it comes with part

526
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 2: insanity because you need it to have that level. And

527
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Speaker 2: that's why most civilized people don't groom your kids to

528
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Speaker 2: be defensive. Yeah, it's a hard life when.

529
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Speaker 1: You're talking about what you can get away with and

530
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Speaker 1: what you can because look at the physical game, you're

531
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Speaker 1: always gonna.

532
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Speaker 2: Be phisical, always trying to get away with. But have

533
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Speaker 2: you right, So as a game has gone on, or

534
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: you feel like you know how the game is going

535
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: to be efficient, then you say, all right, they're gonna

536
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Speaker 2: call this loose.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do more here.

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Speaker 2: Man. We used to do scouting. We scouted referees, did

539
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Speaker 2: you really We scouted cruise We know this crew. They

540
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: like to call a lot of pass interference. I'm gonna

541
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Speaker 2: be a little bit more less aggressive. So we scout

542
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Speaker 2: cruise and we know who's known to do what and

543
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Speaker 2: call what. Oh, this crew right here, they just they

544
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Speaker 2: let the game play out. Oh do they?

545
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Speaker 1: Is that right?

546
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Speaker 2: Is that right? And we got who this week?

547
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Speaker 1: Plassical.

548
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be in this hill pocket. I'm gonna force

549
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Speaker 2: some the call pass infields they're not prone to do it.

550
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a little bit more aggressive, a little

551
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Speaker 2: bit more sticky, a hole, whatever you wanna call. Whatever

552
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Speaker 2: it takes to survive. So just like they do a

553
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Speaker 2: scout report on us, we do a scout report on them.

554
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Speaker 2: So it's a double edged sword when you're talking right.

555
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Speaker 1: There, gem, I want to talk some college football with you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Now the beat them right there, We're gonna get your

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get it, Tommy to be, Jane Daniels and us.

577
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Speaker 1: You Heisman Trophy wanted. You're a college football guy like smooth.

578
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Speaker 2: You know I was up for the Housman and lived it. Now.

579
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Speaker 2: You know they had a smoop for Heisman campaign because

580
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Speaker 2: they had a deuce for Heisman campaigncallis oh yeah, we're

581
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: up for that, old miss. So the only way to

582
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: fight it was smooth for Heisman. Most death.

583
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Speaker 1: Did you think about it?

584
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Speaker 2: I did, and my coach we tried to make a

585
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: little run for it. That's white. Let me play offense

586
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: my last year of school. So we tried to make

587
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Speaker 2: a run for it. But you know, the hazarding one

588
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: of the things. It's with you.

589
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Speaker 1: They're not gonna give it to a dB. I mean,

590
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Speaker 1: I know Charles woods to.

591
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Speaker 2: And speaking of that, I was watching a special on

592
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Speaker 2: that and I lived it because this is my scenie

593
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: year of high school. Okay, I'm what you call it

594
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: d undisciple at the time. All right, everything I do

595
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: is by d UN's measure yep. And I remember watching

596
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: that year, watching Charles Woodson, and I was like, he's

597
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: the blessing to defensive backsh so good mate, only the

598
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: plays that need to be made. And then I looked

599
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: at that Heisman race, three yellow jackets.

600
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Speaker 1: Can you be Peyton that year?

601
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: Yes, you got Peyton manning God's gift yep, to quarterback

602
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Speaker 2: Randy Moss.

603
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Speaker 1: Oh was that Randy's year? I forgot about that.

604
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: Then you got Charles Woodson, Mr. Doitt All, And then

605
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Speaker 2: you got the odd man out of the Innsinc. Group,

606
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Speaker 2: Ryan Leaf. Yes Leaf, And when I watched that breakdown

607
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: Ryan Leaf even in college, he dressed like he didn't

608
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: care for the game. Yep, he had this attitude and

609
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: they asked him. I heard a lot of people don't

610
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: like you. How you feel about that? He's like, I

611
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: don't like them. Had this attitude of attlem And you

612
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: got Peyton over here, Yeah, no problem, kissing babies didn't

613
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: do it. I was then you got this outlaw over here.

614
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: I think that could have been That ninety seven group

615
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: could be the best Hall of Fame class. I mean,

616
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 2: of all time, there's three yellow jackets out of four

617
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Speaker 2: three and this ain't no transfer. I went to Tennessee, Tennessee,

618
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Speaker 2: I represent Michigan football, mister Woodson. Yeah, that's who they are.

619
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Speaker 2: So when I look at this heisman the race, it

620
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: didn't feel underwhelming because I thought Harrison Mark Harrison had

621
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Speaker 2: a good year. Michael Pennix was very good. It's just

622
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Speaker 2: that I think with the transport part of.

623
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Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask you about has that hurt

624
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Speaker 1: the game?

625
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: I think it has because who is that heusman belonged to?

626
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Speaker 2: Does it belong to Arizona State? Does it belong to

627
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: l s U? Yeah? Uh where where is your connection

628
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: to what is what's the reason why? Who groomed you

629
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: to win his highs? Because he had to think a

630
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: su Yeah, like he had to think L s U.

631
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: It's it's different because we're not seeing these guys groom

632
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: and sit behind people and then come to the become

633
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: a T. Moreton after Peyton Manning.

634
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Speaker 1: And also where's your allegiance? Like Jane Dennis gonna be

635
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: L s U Hesmo Trophy winner? But remember j T. Daniels. Yeah,

636
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: started USC and here's just to be the next great

637
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: USC quarterback? Goes to Georgia, doesn't make it. Georgia goes

638
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: to what West Virginia and then goes to Rice and

639
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: then a few weeks ago he retired because of concussions.

640
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 1: What is his school? No?

641
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: No, what who is your alumni base?

642
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like who are you tied to? Like this is

643
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 1: what the future has to go off of.

644
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: No, I'm a hybrid, right, I'm a Wolverine trojan. No? No, man,

645
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: you represent us? Like they go to think about it.

646
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: I think this is what we're losing. And I think

647
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Speaker 2: eventually they're gonna have to slow the port of down. Yep.

648
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Speaker 2: And so you can only transfer. Once you can train

649
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: for twice, you gotta wait a year. So they gotta

650
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Speaker 2: do something because it's out of hand. I could have

651
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: only wonder how it feels to be a pro scout,

652
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, I'm looking at this dude at Tennessee.

653
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: Oh he ain't graduated last year. Where is this dude?

654
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: He's in Missouri?

655
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: Like it's I know it's making their job hard, but

656
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: I know it's making that alliance hard. But this one,

657
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: this hides in the trophy race. Find it just felt

658
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: a little bit underwhelming. I think maybe because Caleb wasn't

659
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: in the mix. Drake May like, so, so, how's it

660
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: like some of your top talent, Yeah, it's not in

661
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: the Heisman race, and I think that took some of

662
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: the lust out of it. And not only is some

663
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: of your top guys not in the Heisman race, none

664
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Speaker 2: of the guys are playing it for the national championship.

665
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Speaker 1: Appendix is well, he was apenix is but everybody else.

666
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: Yet Caleb like like, so, I think that took some

667
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: of the air out of it. And James Dani's I

668
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: think he's a good player. I thought he had a

669
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Speaker 2: great year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was phenomenal.

671
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: I thought a winning game with the hisman. I thought

672
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: winning game with the h unless you ain't one. Now,

673
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: dangn what so what I'm saying? It felt blah? Yeah? Yeah,

674
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: because usually went hide me and I can't wait to

675
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: turn the challenge. Yeah, who got that? His mean? And

676
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: I love seeing the players that's small try to pick

677
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: the trophy up. Lord Devine takes Smith picked it up.

678
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: It got away like two hundred round Like me, I

679
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: just would have turned that thing around. Listen. I love

680
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: to see it. But I don't know, how did you

681
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: feel about it?

682
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Daniels was overwhelming, and I put the stat

683
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Speaker 1: down and I gotta make sure I get that right.

684
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: Think you had a great job here.

685
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: She always does a great job.

686
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: Total offensive yards per game, Yeah, four hundred and twelve

687
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: point two seventy four yards better than the next best player.

688
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, he was unstoppable.

689
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: He deserved it. But when I say Heisman, all Heisman

690
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: trophy people, the people that want it have a Heisman moment, yes,

691
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: Desmond Howard, Oh Heisman.

692
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: The best Heisman moment is ever.

693
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: RG three Heisman moments. Oh, and this is what this

694
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: reminds me of, Like Jaydon Daniel even tally wise reminds

695
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: me of RG three Bodybill RG three. Uh, look at

696
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: the RG three won it. Stat's very similar. So that's

697
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Speaker 2: how I kind of graded off of it.

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00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: Did you see the I think it was the picture

699
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: that went viral right after Jadon won the Heisman Trophy.

700
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: As and you mentioned Arizona State. Remember when he left

701
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: Arizona State. What they did this was under Herm Edwards

702
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: and they were so this is when the portal was

703
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 1: first getting started and he got in the portal and

704
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: his teammates cleaned out his locker. They were calling him

705
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: a loser for leaving the Sun Devils and he goes

706
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: to LSU and wins the heights first of.

707
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: All Sun Devil fam come he left to go to

708
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Speaker 2: the SEC. Yes, I'm sorry, this is not softball. I

709
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: know y'all killing softball, but this is the football. You

710
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: never get mad when people upgrade, so ja because somebody upgrade,

711
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: you can't get mad. It's life. They can't get mad

712
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: because they man upgrade. I don't want to see here

713
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: and lose with y'all. And azon't think about this if

714
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: you put up these same stats in on Arizona State

715
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: do he win and hide don't. No, no, because they

716
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: lose a ton of games than you, and they'll be like, no,

717
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: you stats to inflated because you come from behind every

718
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: each in every game. So I'm sorry. Never get mad

719
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: when people go up with a left Yeah. Yeah, like

720
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Speaker 2: I could gratulate. I do not hate on pay some bills.

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Speaker 2: We got to talk about Tom and the Vito. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we do. Da voochs.

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Speaker 1: your Washington Commanders.

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741
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Speaker 1: Oh thank you, I'm talking about We're family.

742
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Speaker 2: If you haven't heard the name yet, get used to it,

743
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: because you will hear it a lot more this season

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Speaker 2: and into the new year.

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Speaker 2: So Commander's fans see Geek because I'm going to see

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Speaker 2: Taylor's will perform on the Moon and they found me

751
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Speaker 2: to musk. I'm kitchen a ride with him?

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00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: All right? What is that space ex go there, Space

753
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: x Z and Y. You know what, Temmy the Vito

754
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: the veto listen.

755
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: This is what I've learned. Okay, when you're having a

756
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: losing season in the NFL, the only thing can save

757
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: a losing season to feel your story is a winning story.

758
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: This is a great story.

759
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: This is New Yorkers saying we are New York Tommy

760
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: cutlets listen to me. At the end of the day,

761
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 2: even with the side this New York. He represents them

762
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: met life. We'll be packed losing because of a movement,

763
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: all right, And this is what you need when you

764
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: just don't have the product to put on the field

765
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: and you need a story to beat that product. True,

766
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: the veto has been that story. Listen to me. This man,

767
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: no matter what goes on, has seen Mint himself. He

768
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: represents a whole class of people. You don't need anybody

769
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: else there. It's gonna be Italian everywhere in there representing

770
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: for they man. He's the man and then the agent.

771
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: This cat. Let's give him a name. I think his

772
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: name is Polly. Let's let me get let me get

773
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: his guy name. It has to be just what you

774
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: think the name.

775
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: I read it earlier today I forgot it.

776
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: Did you know his agent is going into the Italian

777
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: American Hall of Fame in Chicago? I think this weekend.

778
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: I swear. Oh my god, yes, he just was a

779
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: star for three seconds with the NFL. He just was

780
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: a star.

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00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: Shan still outo?

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00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: Is that not right?

783
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: Is that not?

784
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: They probably call him big Shun. Thank you. Listen, hey,

785
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: just imagine getting on the phone they're hitting up to vdo. Yeah,

786
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: what you doing I'm going with big shun Stato. I'm like,

787
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: are you coming back? Let's take it, Let's let's take

788
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: a boat trip. I'm not taking a boat trip with

789
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: not me. No, no, no. If you want to meet me,

790
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: is gonna have to be on Third Street in public,

791
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: in public. I'm not doing it with you. But boy,

792
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: the look of it, the vision of it. I listen.

793
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: I love stories. That's always been my telling. This is

794
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: a great story, no matter what his career turns out

795
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: to be.

796
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: His family was outside the stadium handing out cutlets and

797
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: pasta before the game.

798
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: And guess what, I bet they didn't have none. They

799
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: did not they did not have none left. This is

800
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: a cultural thing here, Like everybody loves cultural representation. It's

801
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: the ultimate flatter because when you do it, when you achieve.

802
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 2: I achieved this. That's why I love it so much.

803
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: Like listen, ride it out the rest of the season. Listen,

804
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 2: I should be scared to go to a Giants gay

805
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: right now with Selado and the rest of the boys

806
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: sitting there, Like, think about walking up there and I

807
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: got on Washington stuff and I'm just walking past the line.

808
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 2: Nothing but Italian. You know, used to take that off right,

809
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: no problem.

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00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. He will look Daniel Jones started quarterback.

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00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: They pay him when he's health he'll start, but he'll

812
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: always and who knows what's gonna happen, but he'll always

813
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: have this.

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00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: You know why I don't like Daniel Jones. You know

815
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: it right, No, I don't because it's name too regular

816
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 2: to be a quarterback. Now I'm riding with the Veto.

817
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: You call m Danny Dimes.

818
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: Name Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones, real estate agent, Daniel Jones,

819
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: school counselors, Daniel Jones.

820
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: There's nothing, no aura around it, and I think with

821
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: great quarterbacks, it needs to be an aura around you.

822
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: Certain names t hear me, certain careers, and I looked

823
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: at Daniel Jones, I were like, I love him as

824
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: an athlete. He's faster than most people think he is.

825
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: He can throw the ball. But his name is Daniel Jones.

826
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: This is just just like putting up to a gas

827
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 2: pump and putting in regular.

828
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: It's the same thing.

829
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: Can I have twenty dollars a Daniel Jones?

830
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: Like?

831
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: Listen to it's the Then you got a guy the

832
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: Veto behind you, the name different, great quarter Vito hits,

833
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 2: Joe Montana hits, Steve McNair hits even RG three hits

834
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: like it's something about Eli Manning.

835
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 1: But who is he? Like, Hey see, this is why

836
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: you were meant to be a pro football player.

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00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 2: Smooth, Yes, it rocks coolly. That came off the same way,

838
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: like it's just some about a name that had star power.

839
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: And Daniel Jones ain't got no stop power. The Vito

840
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: got stop power. And the funny thing about the Vito,

841
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: I think what he's doing this year, he's probably gonna

842
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: be the backup quarterback there for like the next twelve years.

843
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: Let him do it. That's the big best job for

844
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: Friday Jersey. This guy will never buy another meal, not

845
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: to buy another drink.

846
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: He's not gonna buy another drink. He's basically Frank Sinatra.

847
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I know right now he's the modern day

848
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: imagine walking down the street with the veto the only

849
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: person that can walk down right beside him right now

850
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 2: and get just as much pulling him. It's a Broadway Joe.

851
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. That's it. He'll probably have on

852
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: like a fur coat with no shirt on, chest hairs out.

853
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. You look at him, I'm like,

854
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: that looks like a Tommy divide.

855
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: You know, he looks I could see him literally eating

856
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: his chicken cut it with his hand up.

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00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: Listen.

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00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: I think it's a great story. I think it's good

859
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: for the NFL. NFL been a have lately been illegal stories,

860
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: especially with the Taylor's wheel and legal stories, and I

861
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: think the the Beato story defines the Giants twenty twenty

862
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: three year.

863
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about Patrick Mahomes.

864
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Patty old Patty Mahomes unlike he's got a name,

865
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: Patty Paddy Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we know the drill by Now. He was

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Speaker 1: upset with that off sides call on Darius Tony, but I,

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Speaker 1: at least personally, I thought this was out of character

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Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, I understand that that particular penalty isn't

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Speaker 1: called often, but penalties, he was offside, he earned a penalty.

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Speaker 2: And then after the game, when I saw the way

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Speaker 2: he treated Josh Allen, where how many times Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: had to take the l in that series?

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Speaker 1: Many of many a time? And then Patrick Mahomes, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen's like, you know, hope you stay healthy whatever, and

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahons like, worst ever call I've ever seen. The

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Speaker 1: walks off, and I was like.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, because we emotional. Like the one thing

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Speaker 2: I've already said that I didn't agree with is the

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Speaker 2: fact that right after emotional adrenaline field four hours, you

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Speaker 2: literally stick a camera in that face right after and

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Speaker 2: you won't clear answers. We're gonna give you, Richard Sherman

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Speaker 2: if you do that, because we are real bottled with

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Speaker 2: emotions right now. I'm sure Patrick had time to just

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Speaker 2: cool off. Yeah he would have been fine, but in

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Speaker 2: that moment, he's oblivious. Yeah he's out there. I'm mad.

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Speaker 2: And he came back and he apologized. He told her,

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Speaker 2: he said, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said anything like

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Speaker 2: that to you. You had nothing to do with the call.

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Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, when when everything

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Speaker 2: comes down, then I think that Mike should be putting

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Speaker 2: in faith. But then they do. We are raw emotion

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Speaker 2: at its finest.

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Speaker 1: You have to be emotional player.

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Speaker 2: If you're not emotionally in love with the game, we

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Speaker 2: don't want you on our team. So us as teammate

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Speaker 2: would have been like, be all right, and he's so

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Speaker 2: grown and so there that he like he got him

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Speaker 2: and said that was my thumb. Sorry, that was that

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Speaker 2: was between me and the RELs. And guess what Tony

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00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: was outside like, wasn't no fan bust somebody like, we're

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00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 2: mad at the River Reeds when they don't make a call,

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Speaker 2: but then when they make a call that's correct, right,

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Speaker 2: we're mad at them, Like the job is almost impossible.

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Speaker 2: So I thought the RELs did their job right there.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you get Tony to line up correctly, we won't

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Speaker 2: be in this spot. Great play call, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Great And my favorite part of that too was I

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Speaker 1: heard someone say, you know, if you look throughout the game,

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Speaker 1: Tony was lining up all sides all game. They never

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Speaker 1: called it. I'm like that he was getting away with.

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Speaker 2: Him and then they were probably warning him because they

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Speaker 2: do a good job of it. Hey hey, hey, wire receiver,

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Speaker 2: I need you to step back a inch. Yeah you've been.

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Speaker 2: You've been across the line a couple of times. Hey, Conor,

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Speaker 2: I need you stepped back inch. You're a little bit

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Speaker 2: too close your help and lining up in the ridge,

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Speaker 2: I mean on the line of scrim They tell you

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Speaker 2: these things, and Tony yet and still went out there

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Speaker 2: and did it when out of wire c was And

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Speaker 2: I think this is what he Mahomes is frustrated about.

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Speaker 2: When the wire c we was gonna start letting him down,

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Speaker 2: when of his wire receivers going to stop letting him die?

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Speaker 2: Set He's I think he's projecting because the Chiefs, look,

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Speaker 2: it's always going to be Andy and Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: We've seen drops, we've seen the sides penalty. They are

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Speaker 1: not as dangerous as they have been.

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Speaker 2: And guess what, maybe it's just fatigue of going championship playoffs,

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Speaker 2: I mean championship championship game, super Bowl, super Bowl, super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Your team gets fatigued, like no wonder. We've not had

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Speaker 2: many back to back champions It's just so hard to do.

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Speaker 2: And maybe they're in a fatigue zone right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a very good point. All right

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Speaker 1: this weekend, Yeah, Commanders, La Land, we finally get so football.

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Speaker 2: What is the key to this team? I'm not talking

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Speaker 2: about staying close getting a dub. It's all about Coach

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Speaker 2: Rivera in his defense. Okay, if you cannot stop the

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Speaker 2: Rams from scoring, you do not have a chance. And

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Speaker 2: we on the road. One thing you cannot do cannot

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Speaker 2: let them start fast. Defense, have to make players on

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Speaker 2: special team. Seventy five percent made of defense, keeping pooping

942
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Speaker 2: the cool Cooper cup at the end zone, defensive backfield.

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Speaker 2: I think the defense. You win games on the road

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Speaker 2: with your defense, your offense, just your traveling companion at

945
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Speaker 2: that time, What can we do? Can we control the

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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage? With John Allen, d run Payne, Jamie

947
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Speaker 2: David is not playing. Who fills in that gap? Kim Kurle?

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Speaker 2: Can he make plays? So? One thing we know about

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Speaker 2: Sean McVay, he's gonna go in and find your weaknesses

950
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Speaker 2: and he's gonna come out and he's gonna tack him

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Speaker 2: over over. The one thing I learned about watching Sean mvay.

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Speaker 2: If the play works in the first quarter, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: see it in the second third, in the full right,

954
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: he's gonna repeat it, and he's gonna keep coming at you.

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Speaker 2: So can coach Raver's defense go out here and make plays?

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Speaker 2: We need at least four or five secs. Yep, we

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00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: need a turnover. We haven't had an interception in seven weeks.

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Speaker 2: Has it been out It felt like it's been the

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Speaker 2: early sixties. All I'm saying is this we gotta go

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Speaker 2: get the ball back.

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Speaker 3: Change.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's stun everyone. Let's get a much needed dub.

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Speaker 1: Commanders win. Yeah, look, ribs all the way list win

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Speaker 1: this game. Ribs on me, I'm gonna rain. Make ribs

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