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Speaker 1: Get in text with technology with tech Stuff from how

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Speaker 1: stuff Works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer here

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Speaker 1: at How Stuff Works not Love Things Tech, and today

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Speaker 1: we're going to do a listener request. Listener Marcus wrote

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Speaker 1: in and asked that I do an episode about Nokia.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was high time I tackled the subject,

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Speaker 1: and here we go, because it's pretty cool. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, there are a lot of different ways of

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Speaker 1: pronouncing this company. I've definitely heard Nokia a lot more

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Speaker 1: frequently than Nokia, and I've heard Nokia. I've heard lots

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Speaker 1: of different variations. It seems that no matter which one

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Speaker 1: I pick, I'm wrong. I'm just accepting that. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go with Nakia, knowing that I'm wrong. So I've

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Speaker 1: saved you the trouble of writing in You're welcome. Now,

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Speaker 1: before I jump into the story of Nakia, I want

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Speaker 1: to get you guys a little bit of an anecdote.

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Speaker 1: My memory is not the best. Anyone who knows me

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Speaker 1: knows that's an understatement, but as best I can tell,

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Speaker 1: my first cell phone was a Knockia twenty one. That

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Speaker 1: model came out in two thousand three. Now it's possible

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Speaker 1: that I had a Knackia eighty two ten. That one

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Speaker 1: came out in nine That was the really colorful one.

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Speaker 1: You could actually pop the covers off and replace it

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Speaker 1: with other covers. They had I think six different colors

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Speaker 1: But I honestly cannot remember. So it's possible that I

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Speaker 1: just saw the Nakia eighty two tens everywhere, but I

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Speaker 1: didn't actually own one. Cell Phones had been around in

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Speaker 1: ever got ahold of one. I remember there were classmates

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Speaker 1: kept on thinking, why the heck would I want people

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Speaker 1: to be able to reach me whenever and wherever I was.

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Speaker 1: And it took me a few years to break down

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Speaker 1: anxiety if I am not constantly in close proximity to

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Speaker 1: my cell phone. But I never once thought to look

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Speaker 1: into the company that made my first cell phone. I

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Speaker 1: just assumed it was a Japanese company out of Sheer ignorance.

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Speaker 1: I thought, oh, it's no Kia. That sounds like it

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Speaker 1: So I did find out eventually that it was a

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Speaker 1: company in Finland many years later. In fact, it might

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Speaker 1: just assumed that Nakia was a relatively young company, perhaps

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Speaker 1: eighties maybe mid eight knees and started in electronics, then

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Speaker 1: incredibly wrong. And this, my friends, is the biggest reason

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Speaker 1: that I love my job. I get to learn stuff

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Speaker 1: and push back my own ignorance, which is exciting to me,

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Speaker 1: to actually learn new things, and then to share what

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Speaker 1: I've learned. Though I'm sure a lot of you will

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Speaker 1: you also take delight in that. So our story begins

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Speaker 1: In the fall of nineteen forty four, Finland turned against

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Speaker 1: Germany and began fighting in the Lapland War. After the

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Speaker 1: the offensive. You need to declare war against Germany. Finland

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Speaker 1: outnumber you, so maybe you should start acting on that.

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Speaker 1: you did. Even though the Soviet Union technically attacked Finland first,

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Speaker 1: not all of Finland was suffering due to this relationship

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Speaker 1: business ended up doing quite well. The Soviet Union became

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Speaker 1: one of Nakia's biggest customers, in fact, their primary customer.

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Speaker 1: The Soviet Union would purchase electrical equipment, cables, manufacturing, machinery

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Speaker 1: and more from Nakias. Nakia began to offer up more products,

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Speaker 1: the Soviet Union began to purchase them that allowed Nakia

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Speaker 1: pursue a new market, which was electronics. In nineteen sixty three,

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Speaker 1: Nakia starts making radio telephones, mostly for the Finnish military,

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Speaker 1: some for the Soviet military and for first responders. This

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Speaker 1: would be the uh the still the conglomerate, right, there's

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Speaker 1: not a company yet, it's a conglomerate of companies to

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Speaker 1: dip its toe the first time that they would dip

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Speaker 1: their toe in an industry that would later define the company.

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Speaker 1: So in nineteen sixty seven, more than one hundred years

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Speaker 1: after Frederick established his first paper mill, the three companies

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Speaker 1: within the Nokia conglomerate formally merged together to create the

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Speaker 1: Nakia Corporation. The company's businesses included electronics, rubber, cable, and lumber.

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Speaker 1: It was poised to pursue opportunities in several spaces, including

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Speaker 1: consumer electronics, and yet there was still no hint that

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Speaker 1: this company would become a major player in the futuristic

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Speaker 1: technology of portable cellular phones. Now, in the next episode,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna pick up with the Nachia Corporation and talk

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Speaker 1: about how it forged a pathway in electronics in general

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Speaker 1: and cell phones in particular. Will also look at how

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Speaker 1: the company ultimately made the decision to divest itself of

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Speaker 1: nearly all of its businesses, including ultimately its mobile device division,

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Speaker 1: company its global reach in the nineteen nineties. In the meantime,

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