1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: the Bengals Boot Podcast. UH with MS wide open. Addition, 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: as we speak to a guy that the Bengals certainly 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: hope will be wide open for many years to come. 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: Second round draft pick Te Higgins. Then after I chat 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: with t it's forty five quality minutes with my broadcast 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: partner Dave Laplam, including a new round of ask Lap 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: questions that you submitted on Twitter. The Bengals Booth Podcast 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: is presented by Prime Sport, the official fan, travel and 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: hospitality partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. And here's a quick 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: reminder that you can have the latest edition of this 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: It's the greatest thing since Peyton's Places. Last year, Future 15 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Corps back Peyton Manning hosted a thirty 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: episode documentary series in conjunction with a celebration of the 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: NFL's one hundredth season. The series looks at key moments 18 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: in NFL history through conversations with former players, coaches, and 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: other key figures. I've only recently started watching Peyton's Places 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: on ESPN Plus and they are awesome. Manning is extremely 21 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: likable as a host, and his appreciation for the history 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: of the game shines through in every episode. You have 23 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: to pay for a subscription to watch on ESPN Plus, 24 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: but I've noticed that ESPN has been running episodes for 25 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: free on its various channels due to the absence of 26 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: live sporting events. So if you don't have ESPN Plus, 27 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: I recommend searching for Peyton's Places and setting up your 28 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: DVR to record any episodes that run on TV. I 29 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: promise you won't be sorry. Now let's get to this 30 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: week's guests. My first conversation this week is with the 31 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Bengal second round draft pick Te Higgins, the six four, 32 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixteen pound wide receiver out of Clemson 33 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: with great hands and a ridiculous catch radius thanks to 34 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: his eighty one inch wingspan. Higgins was the seventh wide 35 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: receiver taken in what was considered to be one of 36 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: the deepest pools of wide receivers in the history of 37 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: the NFL draft, and the Bengals obviously hope that he 38 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: will be one of Joe Burrow's top targets for many 39 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: years to come. See, we learned on draft night that 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: you are a Bengals fan and an AJ Green fanatic. 41 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: Four years ago you tweeted, I will meet AJ Green 42 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: one day. Have you had any contact with AJ since 43 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: the draft? We talked over the phone, but I haven't 44 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: met him at first yet. Now, were those phone conversations interesting? 45 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: You know, it was just, you know, more of a 46 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: congratulations and can't wait to get the work type phone call. 47 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: So it wasn't too much. We're chatting with T Higgins. 48 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: AJ is your favorite wide receiver, but you will wear 49 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: the uniform number of another Bengals legend, Chad Johnson. Did 50 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: I read correctly that you reached out to chat about 51 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: wearing eighty five? Yeah, I definitely did. You know, just 52 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: how to respect, you know, what he's done with the 53 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: organism for the organization, and you know, I just wanted 54 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: to reach out to him before I even you know, 55 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: told to you know, the equipment guys that I wanted 56 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: to wear eighty five. Obviously I wanted to keep my 57 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: college number was in my number, whether it was either 58 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: fifteen or eighty five. You know, fifteen was already taken, 59 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: so eighty five was the only other option. But you know, 60 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: I had asked him and he was okay with us. 61 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: It sounds like he was more than okay with it. 62 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: He tweeted basically that he's honored that you wanted to 63 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: wear it. Just something that I gotta I gotta keep 64 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: the tradition going with that number, so hopefully I can't. 65 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: T You were born in nineteen ninety nine, two years 66 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: before Chad was drafted. How much do you know about 67 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: his NFL career. I just know he was well, they say, hey, kn' 68 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: guard eighty five, so that's that's and he was real 69 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: quick with his feat. He was just unguardable. Ironically, you 70 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: have trained with his former college and NFL teammate TJ. 71 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: Hushman Zada, who recommended you to Bengal Scouts. What were 72 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: some of the biggest things you took away from training 73 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: with TJ? Just like the basic stuff, really, uh, you know, 74 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: at the top of routes, you know, releases and really 75 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: the knowledge of the game. You know, he's a really 76 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: great guy and he's a great coach, and you know, 77 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: I look forward to working to him in the future 78 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: more and more so we're chatting with t Higgins, what's 79 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: your schedule like these days? You know, obviously we have 80 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: you know, team meetings and stuff, but you know, other 81 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: than that, you know, I'm I'm on the field or 82 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, in a workout room getting my grind on, 83 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, that's what I do best, and just working 84 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: on my draft, trying to get better and better each 85 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: and every day. What's been the best part of those 86 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: teams zoom meetings? Just getting to meet all the new teammates, 87 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: you know, all my new coaches, and really just learning 88 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: in the new playbook. Where you're living, have you been 89 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: able to do football activities? Yeah, definitely. You know, we 90 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: have a few quarterbacks out here and James is open now, 91 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: so definitely have that. How much interaction have you had 92 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: with Joe since the draft? Oh, you know, we've talked 93 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: a few times. We talked over to over zoom. Um. 94 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: You know, so we've been talking. What did it mean 95 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: do ut when Joe was among the first NFL quarterbacks 96 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: to show his support for the black community after the 97 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: death of George Floyd. You know, it means a lot. 98 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's the guy with his platform. You know, 99 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: it's just showing that he really cares and and that, uh, 100 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: this is the guy that is showing his true colors. 101 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: You faced him and LA in the National Championship Game 102 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: last year. What stood out about his performance in that game? 103 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: You know, he's guy that's never gonna give up. He 104 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: was obviously up on him and you know you can 105 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: see that he plays some poys and he brought his 106 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: team back and you know, one of the biggest game 107 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: shoot in college. Have you set any goals for your 108 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: rookie year, Oh, that's you know, obviously every rookie wants 109 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: to be Rookie of the Year, but you know that's 110 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: one of my goals. And really just go out there 111 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: and just you know, help my team come out with 112 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: a better season than we did, you know, the past 113 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: few years, and just contribute the best way I can. 114 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: You were the first pick of the second round, number 115 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: thirty three overall, but I read that you have a 116 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: bit of a chip on your shoulder from not being 117 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: selected in the first Is that accurate? You can say that, 118 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: but you know, with me, I just wanted to be 119 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: drafted no matter where I went. But you know I 120 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: can use that as a chip on my shoulder, So 121 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: I guess that's all I'm gonna do TJ hood Shmnzata 122 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: was a seventh round pick, and I remember that he 123 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: used to be able to recite every wide receiver selected 124 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: before him in the NFL draft? Are you motivated by 125 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: the guys that were selected ahead of you? You know, 126 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: I know those guys really well because you know, Um, 127 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm real good friends with him, but you know those 128 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: guys deserved to be when they got picking. Um, I'm 129 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: happy for him, and you know, so just how I 130 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: go about it? Tell you what I watched footage of 131 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: you at Clemson. I see you running away from defenders, 132 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: but you didn't run a great forty yard dash time 133 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: before the draft? Did you have an injured hamstring? I 134 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: wasn't running that. But you know there's there's no excuses. So, 135 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys see my game film. The Bengals 136 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: organizations trusting me and they believe in me, so they're 137 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: gonna get the hundred. So Jerry Rice ran a four 138 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: point seven one forty and he's the best wide receiver 139 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: of all time. Michael Thomas and a four point five 140 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: seven and he might be the best current wide receiver. 141 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: Do we put too much emphasis on the forty yard dash? Yeah? 142 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: I really don't think, you know, because a lot of 143 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: football guys don't run track, so they don't they would 144 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: have like two to three months to say stance and 145 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: starts right. So I mean forty times really don't matter 146 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: to me, obviously, the guy the organizations want to see 147 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: if you're fast or not. But you know your game film, 148 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: it just takes you to a whole another level, you know, 149 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: so because it's actually competition on the field with you 150 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: and you can see how you separate from defenders and 151 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So how eager are you to get 152 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: up to Cincinnati and have some sort of practicing with 153 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: your teammates? Can't wait. So it's gonna be fun. Just 154 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: can't wait to go out there and compete with those guys. Hey, 155 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: we're looking forward to seeing you here. Congratulations on a 156 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: tremendous college career, and I look forward to meeting you 157 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: in person soon. Thank you. See at fifty nine catches 158 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: for one hundred and sixty seven yards and thirteen touchdowns 159 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: at Clemson last year, and according to Pro Football Focus, 160 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: Higgins is probably the most complete big wide receiver we've 161 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: seen come into the league in quite some time. Before 162 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: we get to Dave Lapham. Here's a quick reminder that 163 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: you can take your Bengals pride to the next level 164 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty with an official Bengals fan package from 165 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: Prime Sport. I'm posting this podcast on Friday, June fifth, 166 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: the first day that NFL coaches have been allowed back 167 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: into their team facilities since mid March when the league 168 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: shut things down due to the coronavirus. Zach Taylor and 169 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: most of his staff were back at Paul Brown Stadium 170 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: on Friday morning. A few coaches are still out of 171 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: town and we'll return next week. It's a hopeful sign 172 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: that the league will be able to begin on schedule 173 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: this season, and that was my first topic of conversation 174 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: this week with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. Lap it's 175 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: the first week of June. How confident are you that 176 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: there will be an NFL season. Well, I'm confident there'll 177 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: be an NFL season in some way, shape or form, 178 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not I'm not confident that the early 179 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: stages of it will be played in front of crowds. 180 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: Um and if it is played in front of crowds, 181 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: that they'll be sparse, to say the least. And I 182 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: just wonder about the preseason. I mean, you know, if 183 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: it would not surprise me, would not shock me if 184 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: they lost a couple of preseason games in the process 185 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: of all this and had a couple of preseason games 186 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: to tune up and and and get ready for the season, 187 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: And you know, at that point you wonder, is it 188 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: doesn't even make sense to have ninety guys in training Canadon. 189 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: I mean, how you're going to be able to make 190 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: a truer evaluation. You haven't You haven't been able to 191 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: watch them in OTAs, in mini camps where you make 192 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: your first and probably most important decision on guys on 193 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: the field, watching them run, watching them, do they take 194 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: proper angles? Are they coachable? And you think they have 195 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: a chance, and then and then it's it's solidified by 196 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: action in the games. But a lot of times, you know, 197 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: decisions are made on guys during OTAs and mini camps 198 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: or good percent decision is made there. And they're absolutely 199 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: this season. So it's going to be very, very tough 200 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: for guys that you know, are just coming out of 201 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: college and haven't transitioned to the NFL at all, and 202 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: you're trying to decide can they and you don't really 203 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: have a measuring stick. I get signing veteran free agents. 204 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: You already know that, all right, I get taped them. 205 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: I can see how they performed at the NFL level, 206 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: but not so with the college kids. You mentioned the 207 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: possibility of games being played in front of no fans 208 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: or a limited number of fans, particularly early in the season. 209 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: How much would that negate home field advantage tremendously, you know, 210 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I guess, I guess you try 211 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: to take every advantage you possibly can. And the schedule 212 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: first came out, I mean four of the six four 213 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: of the first six games for the Bengals are on 214 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: the road, and you know, in boisterous places, vociferous crowds. Cleveland, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Indianapolis, 215 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: and the Dome. Those are the four road games and 216 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: their first six games of the season. Well, you know, 217 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: I think if there are are limited crowds or no 218 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: crowd at all, man, that that that's a that's a big, 219 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: big difference maker, particularly offensively. I mean, that's where you 220 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: know you have to go with silent counts and hand 221 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: stignals and there's no verbal communication, and uh, you know, 222 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: there's a there's a real good chance for false starts 223 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: and guys not being on the same page, and all 224 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: those kinds of things where nearing those in those environments, 225 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: and I've been in those environments, it is very difficult. Uh, 226 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: you eliminate the reason that it becomes difficult in those environments, 227 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: that being the rabid fan base, and all of a sudden, 228 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: what could have been a difficult start seems to be 229 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: a lot easier with respect to the conditions and environment 230 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: that you're planning. Would you enjoy being able to hear 231 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: everything being said on the field as an announcer I 232 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: worked because I remember back in the day there was 233 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff being said. Uh, some of it 234 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: you could hear and some of it you couldn't. But um, 235 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: that would that would be interesting, and you know a 236 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: lot of it would obviously be x rated. It have 237 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: to be for mature audiences only. Uh that that would 238 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: be The problem that I could see is is some 239 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: of these young kids' heroes just cuts them up a 240 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: blue street. You know, it's like mom and Dad are like, 241 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, we don't want you can you can respect athletes, 242 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: but don't make them your heroes. Well, if they listen 243 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: to one football game. They may not be as big 244 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: a hero as they might have been before they listen 245 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: to them participate in that football game, because I mean 246 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: it's it's obviously raw and emotional, and you know a 247 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: lot of things are said, that's for sure. Um, but 248 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: it would it would be interesting, you know, and you 249 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: really have to I think, um, it would add an 250 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: extra burden to both sides of the football in terms 251 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: of changing signals every week because you get you get 252 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: a tape of that of that game and you you 253 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: just take the TV tape and you get all the 254 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: audio and you can match up alignment's configuration. Blitz is 255 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: to calls. You know, the guys are making an adjustments 256 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: they're making and audibles they're making all that sort of thing, 257 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: and uh, that makes it, that makes it very interesting, 258 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: That makes it very intriguing. So you know, um, that 259 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: might add another layer to preparation during the course of 260 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: the week. You know, not having the same the same trigger, 261 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: the same uh color keyword that you know, right after 262 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: I say in my cadence the lave color this week 263 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: is black. Well the following week it's on the week 264 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: got that it's going to be white. We got that 265 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: it's going to be perful. You know, you have to 266 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: change it up for sure, because teams will get a 267 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, beat on it, no doubt about that. With 268 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: h you know, with with having no trout boys to 269 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: impede what they might be hearing on the audio part 270 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: of their tape. It seems like a strong possibility at 271 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: this point that there isn't going to be an off 272 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: season program, that the first time the team's practiced together 273 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: would be training camp. If that's the case, is there 274 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: a position group that would suffer the most, or a 275 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: particular type of player that would suffer the most from 276 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: no off season program? Well, I think I think, you know, 277 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: the young player obviously probably suffer the most trying to 278 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: make that jumped to the National Football League. I can remember, 279 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, and back in nineteen seventy four when I 280 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: was a rookie deal and we only had like like 281 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: a four week called mini camp as such after the draft. 282 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: Then there was nothing until training camp. Now mighty training 283 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: camp was nine weeks long. It was ridiculous. There were 284 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: six preseason games, you know, right out to the fourth 285 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: of July. We were in Willikee College. Until you know, 286 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: it seemed like Labor Day. I mean there's crazy after 287 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: Labor Day. It was it was nuts but gotten and 288 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: guys literally played themselves into shape. Um. But so this dynamic, 289 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: the way the guys take care of themselves. You're around 290 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: guys don't necessarily have off season jobs like veteran players 291 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: had to have back then, and you know, work out 292 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: at lunch time and try to catch a workout and 293 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: keep yourself in shape and nutrition. And I mean, it's 294 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: it's such a different game now that was back then. 295 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: But I do think that they'll show that. Okay, just 296 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: if you get the training camp and get plenty of 297 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: reps and somehow scheduled practices where you try to catch 298 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: up on reps. That's the thing that you're that you're 299 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: missing is the physical repetition, repetition breachs comfort level. You 300 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: can talk to your blue in the face about when 301 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: this defense has been penetration, this tackle loops around them 302 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,359 Speaker 1: all right, right, tackle you you got to stop the penetrator. 303 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: Make sure you stop and pass them off to your 304 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: guard and then you know, take a drop step and 305 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: take the looper. And you can talk about that all 306 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: you want to go out there and do it physically 307 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: and get some kind of muscle memory, repetition of doing 308 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: it over and over again. Because tackle step differently. One 309 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: guy you work with might set a little deeper than 310 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: the other guy who sets more shallow. At the last scimes, 311 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: you have to get a feel for all of your teammates. 312 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: And that's why I think offensive line play dan Honestly, 313 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: it's the it's the biggest number of players in a 314 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: position group. There are five players, and I always talk 315 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: about you know, solid offensive line players, like making a 316 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: fist becomes an involuntary reaction. You curl four fingers and 317 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: wrap your thumb and you don't even think about it. 318 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: It's just involuntary. Well, when an offensive line has been 319 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: working together and understands each other and all the repetitions, 320 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: all the muscle memory, all the being on the same 321 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: page mentally, that's that's how it plays. It's almost like 322 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: making a fist. But when it's not, you know, then 323 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: if one's just joining it, you can't make a strong 324 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: fist and the line player suffers, you know, as a 325 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: results of that from an analytic being an analogy there, 326 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's that that position group takes 327 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: a lot of repetition camaraderie, understanding each other, you know 328 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: in the meeting room. On the football field even more 329 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: so than in the meeting room might be. So i'd 330 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: say offensive line players is a big, big part of it. 331 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: And um, you know, quarterbacks and receivers obviously timing, timing 332 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: things out. It's uh. Sometimes you'll see receivers that quarterback 333 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: throws the football, it's like, why, how do you know 334 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: to throw it there? And when he threw it and 335 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: how he threw it and where he put it. Well, 336 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: it's because they've done it a million times. And you know, 337 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: if you haven't had that dead luxury, Um, you know 338 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: that all of it, all of it's going to suffer 339 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. It'll be interesting to see how quickly 340 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: you know, guys can come up to speed and uh 341 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: and and make the game. Look, I'm I'm not saying 342 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: the game is gonna look terrible, But if there's only 343 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: a couple of preseason games, they go to training camp 344 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: later and there are a couple of preseason games and 345 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: then they get into started the regular season. You know, 346 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna take a well a little bit before 347 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: the product gets up to what you know, up to 348 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: stuff to what people are used to seeing, you know, 349 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: so many years and quality NFL line play and and 350 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: football in general. Do you think it's important for Joe 351 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: Burrow to get together with the wide receivers before training camp? 352 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: I do? I do? You know? I know? Uh, I 353 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: mean you look at two thousand and eleven though, that 354 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: was such an aberration in such a such a you know, 355 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: a difference. That was a lockout. So Andy Dalton couldn't 356 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: he couldn't get together with his teammates. The first time 357 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: you get together is you know, um, when they when 358 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: they basically um called practices. You know they basically I 359 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't say couldn't get together because Andrew worked on the 360 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: top packle those guys put together practices offense against defense 361 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: and and and I think that was very very very instrumental, 362 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: very very major. And Andy Dalton, you know, being ready 363 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: when training camp unfolded. Um, you know he's a intelligent guy, 364 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: and he is, and he picked up the offense very quickly. 365 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: The word is Joe Burrow is at least that and 366 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: maybe one. I mean he's a Menza, he's a football savant, 367 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: picks things up extremely quickly. But again, the physical repetition 368 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, you can talk about him. You can talk 369 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 1: about and look at tape and say, oh yeah, when 370 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: the safety does this, you know, you have to look here, 371 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: or when they line up in this configuration, you have 372 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: to check to this. You can talk about it all 373 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: you want, but you have to go out and wrap 374 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: it and everybody has to be on the same page 375 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: and hear the quarterback do it and see him execute it, 376 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, and and then start to get a feel 377 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: for where he likes to put the football. If I 378 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: have a defensive player in this position, I know he's 379 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: going to back shoulder me, or he's gonna high point me, 380 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: or he's going to do this, or he's going to 381 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: do that. Those kinds of things happen, you know, just 382 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: over time, you know, getting used to each other and 383 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: realizing each other's strengths and weaknesses and and you know, 384 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: proceeding accordingly with with how they're going to you know, 385 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: play and how they're gonna execute against various coverages, various techniques. 386 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: And you people think it's so simply you just go 387 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: out there, and hey, you know, just go like out 388 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: in the backyard. It's pitching catch. You know, you're just 389 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: playing catch out there. That's it's so much different than that. 390 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's it's a it's a very complicated 391 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: puzzle that has to be put together. For sure, the 392 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: NFL is going to have a loss of revenue this year, 393 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. And that will affect the 394 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: salary cap next year since it is based on the 395 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: percentage of revenue. Is that going to impact extensions for 396 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,239 Speaker 1: aj Green and Joe Mixon? Boy, you know you have 397 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: to you have to wonder about that. Um. You know, 398 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: you look at it and you say, all right, well, 399 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: there's a there's a massive TV contract. It's going to 400 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: be done here shortly, and that's going to be a huge, 401 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: huge influx into salary cap um splitting the revenues and 402 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 1: there's no question about that. But you know it's there. 403 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: There is going to be a diminished revenue, there's no 404 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: question about it. If they play without without saying ends um. 405 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: And I think right now no rookies have been signed, 406 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: no veteran free agency or very few veteran free agency 407 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: see signing. I mean, it's it's it's an impact in 408 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: all this the stars rookies are concerned. You can come 409 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: to an agreement but they can't. It can't. It's not 410 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: going to be debstituted, and they're not going to get 411 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: any money until they past physical and the same with 412 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, with and Joe Mixon, and I mean, there's 413 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: got to be the doctors have to get their hands 414 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: on these guys to make sure there isn't anything that's 415 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: cropped up and anything that they've had in their past 416 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: is not going to be an issue in the future 417 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: and all those kinds of things before you make those investments. So, um, 418 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: it's it's slow. I mean, there's no reason to no 419 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: reason to hurry anything. If you can't, you can't get 420 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: your money, you know, until until things start to start 421 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: to wind back up again. Um. Then when they do 422 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: start to wind back up again, the second phase is 423 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: like you're talking about, is what's the what's the money 424 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: going to look like? I mean, what what are we 425 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: going to have in terms of our pot? And until 426 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: we know what the pot is on our comfortable divide it, 427 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: until we know what we've got as a whole, and 428 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: then we can start given out pieces of the pies. 429 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: Paul Brown used to saying, Mike Brown says, now you 430 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: know your piece of the pie. Is this. It's not 431 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: gonna be any more than that. So until you can 432 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: find out how big that pie is? Is that pie? 433 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: You know? Is that pie just a tiny little uh 434 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, eskimo pire? Is it a big old pie? 435 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: What is that pie? You used to love that piece 436 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: of the pie discussion in your playing days, didn't you. 437 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: Oh lordy, I used to have nightmares about that, that 438 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: phrase to just keep I'd hear it over and over 439 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: and over again, just you know, when in the chambers 440 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: of my empty head, your piece, your piece of the pie. 441 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: Is this? So the NFL talked about it and then 442 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: elected not to add the option of having a fourth 443 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: down and fifteen play from the twenty five yard line 444 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: as a post ability instead of an on side kick. 445 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: Do you like that idea? You know, part of me, 446 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: part of me does like it. But honestly, I mean, 447 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of fourths and fifteen. They say 448 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: the conversion rate is like less than twenty percent, or maybe, 449 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, maybe closer to fifteen percent or even less 450 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: than that. I don't know. I mean I've seen a 451 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: bunch of I've seen a bunch of third and fifties converted. Unfortunately, 452 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: here in the past few years, you know, So fourth 453 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: and fifteen though it's fourth and fifteen, it's it's one down, 454 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: it's one play, so you don't you don't have to 455 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: worry about you know, if you can make a play 456 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: that it's all over with. You can descend the stooks 457 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: and don't let anything get behind you and rally up 458 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: and trying to make a tackle. You get beaten over 459 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: the top on a fourth and fifteen, I mean, that 460 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: would be uh, that would be devastation for sure, but 461 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure it would happen. I'm sure it's 462 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: going to happen. I think they probably feel like the 463 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen is too easy, you know, and ch 464 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: donal a couple of scores go uh, you convert a 465 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen and you can you can get right 466 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: back in the football game. It's a one score game. 467 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: I think that's probably their reaction is, um, the onside 468 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: kick is a tougher thing to convert, but it's a 469 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: lot more dangerous, you know, and they're trying to eliminate 470 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: those kind of things. I mean, when you're talking onside 471 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: kick and involved in a couple of those over the years, 472 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about a mask humanity that goes 473 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: inst that pile, you know, full contact. I mean it's 474 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: like it's like a mass uh, a mass vehicle um 475 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: accident on the year state. You know, when everybody's going 476 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: at uh, you know, at at the speed limit. I mean, 477 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: it's it's there's some serious potential contact in there when 478 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: you're when everybody's diving for that football and you can 479 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: have your you know, your foot plan and then you 480 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: you knee mangled in an awkward position. That's the only 481 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: time I had injuries to my knees was in a 482 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: pile of people. It's you know, when when you're not 483 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: in spate, so you're working, you know, and nothing, there's 484 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: nothing in hipping your lower extremities, you're fine. But when 485 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: you have you know, a body laying on the ground 486 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and then you're you're taking over 487 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: the top of it and you're needing torchs and bens 488 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: in a way that it's not supposed to. That's when 489 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: you have these big injuries as lineman, more so than 490 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: you know, just like running backs will plant, they'll have 491 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: non contact injuries lineman, that's that's more rare. Usually you 492 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: have injuries when you're you're gnled up and part of 493 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: the master humanities and a big old human human beach 494 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: ball lap. Joe Burrow showed empathy for people in needing 495 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: his Heisman speech, and he did it again after the 496 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: murder of George Floyd. He tweeted, the black community needs 497 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: our help. Open your ears, listen and speak. This isn't politics, 498 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: this is human rights. What did Joe show you when 499 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: he did that? And what do you think it meant 500 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: to his teammates? He showed me. I think everything that 501 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: everything that everybody hoped that that he's going to be. 502 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: And I think it meant a lot to his teammates. Um. 503 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's no question about it. I mean, 504 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: Jill Burrow Um has talked about, he talked about during 505 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: his his Hysman speech that he grew up in an 506 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: area where there wasn't a lot of money, you know, 507 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: and people were trying to figure out how to feed families, 508 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: you know, white, black, whatever color you're you're talking about. 509 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: And uh so, I think I think he feels like 510 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: he's got maybe a little bit more empathy, um, but 511 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: not like you know, problems and issues that that the 512 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: black racists had to deal with um, you know, during 513 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: their during their lifetime, in lifetimes of many generations. You know, 514 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: it's it's it's weird, Dan. It's my situation is. I 515 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: grew up in a in a in a town Wakefield, Massachusetts, 516 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: was was basically white and we had one black family, uh, 517 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: come to Wakefield when I was in junior high school, 518 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: and the two kids, Larry and Lewis Roberts, were exceptional, 519 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: exceptional people not just you know, I mean, I don't 520 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: care how what, what race, religion, whatever. I mean, these 521 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: guys were both highly intelligent, incredibly successful athletically. I mean, 522 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: my exposure to black people was I aspired to be 523 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: Larry Roberts, who was a year ahead of me. He 524 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: was president of my brother's class, National honor society, went 525 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: to Darkness. He was you know, all state across country. 526 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 1: Um he played uh basketball, he was you know all 527 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: league basketball and then rain track and field. His brother 528 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: was like that. I mean, that was my exposure. I 529 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: wanted to be Larry Roberts. I mean he was he 530 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: was somebody that he was my role model. And you know, 531 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: and I had some success in high school, and you know, 532 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: Larry Roberts graduated and on top ten of his class. 533 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to graduate in the top ten of my 534 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: class and ended up doing it. Ended up, you know, 535 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: having an opportunity to go to Avonlea school like uh, 536 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: like Larry Roberts did. And I mean that was my 537 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: exposure to uh, you know, to the black race. And 538 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: then I go to UH Syracuse my freshman year, we 539 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: have a black boycott benchwarsball the College Football Hall of 540 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: Fame head coach m didn't have minority enough minority members 541 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: on his coach and staff, and the blacks players decided 542 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: a boycott. And you know, I had never been exposed 543 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: to anything like that, so that was an education process. 544 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: And we had one black player, Ronnie Page, decided to 545 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: stay with the team, and you know, I got to 546 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: be pretty good friends with Ronnie Page and how courageous 547 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: that guy was, and you know, all the things that 548 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: he had to deal with. And then I saw all 549 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: the racial unrest in Syracuse, and I was I was 550 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: part of part of some things that weren't that were 551 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: very very ugly. Witnessed some things and one of our quarterbacks, 552 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: who was a good high school basketball player, went down 553 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: to the down to the basketball courts in the city 554 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: to play pick up basketball, and he was the only 555 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: white player on the court. And he he did in 556 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: a situation where he was beating up and they had 557 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: to reconstruct his stays and put the others cheap bones 558 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: surgery up through his mouth at me. He was saw 559 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: some unbelievable stuff. So, you know, I started in one 560 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: way and then kind of get educated at the other. 561 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: And they come to the National Football League and have 562 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: teammates like Archie Griffin, Isaac Curtis, these guys. If if 563 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: I had no family members to raise my kids, something 564 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: happened to me. I want those guys to raise my kids. 565 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 1: I mean, just unbelievable people. You know. And h Vernon Holland, 566 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: who I played next to in the offensive line, we 567 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: got to be so close. When he turned thirty years old, 568 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: he invited me to his part. I was the only 569 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: white person at at this party, and he was taking 570 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: me around to his friends and family members like I 571 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: was a family member, you know. And it's I mean, 572 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: it's gone. It's been an up and down, big range 573 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: of experiences and education in terms of you know, racism 574 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: or lack thereof, or understanding the differences. And there are 575 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: there are huge differences. I mean, until you've walked in 576 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: the series of somebody that has had to deal with 577 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: all the things that you know, some of these uh 578 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, black people have had to deal with their 579 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: entire lives and multiple generations. You can't, you have no 580 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: right to, you don't have a reference point. But all 581 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: I can say is my experiences over the years I've done. 582 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: They're they're unbelievable white people, you know, just role modeled 583 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: white people. They're jerks. They're unbelievable people. Role model Black 584 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: people and they're jerks. Now, don't care what color they are. 585 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: They're good people and they're bad people. And what we 586 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: have to do is just just uh, you know, just 587 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: trying to understand understand each other's flights a little bit, 588 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: you know. And because I've got I've got a granddaughter 589 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: who has uh you know, one of her best friends 590 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: in her class at school, preschool as a young black kid, 591 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: and she loves the guy. So I mean, it's it's 592 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: it's all about experiences right now. She has it's Christine. 593 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: She has no you know, there's no opinions trying to 594 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: sway her one way or the other. And that's the 595 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: way so you start out that way, don't get poisoned. 596 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: And you know, and if you do have bad experiences, 597 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: I hope that you're going to have some good experiences, 598 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, so you can understand the total picture. And man, 599 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you it is. It's it's it's just a 600 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: matter of everybody trying to understand, you know, the other 601 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: person's plight, the other person's person's problems. You know, like 602 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: like Rodney King said so many years ago, can't we 603 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: all just get along? That's some that's somes the whole 604 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: thing up in a nutshell, open your ears, listen and speak. 605 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: I thought that was that was perfect from Joe Burrow. 606 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 1: All right, no doubt. Let's get to some ask Lap 607 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: questions that were submitted on Twitter. We start with Joe 608 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: Joe Jammer. Here's this question. Over the years, what rule 609 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: change has helped offensive lineman the most? Being able to 610 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: use your hands, you know, extend your arms and use 611 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: your hands. Um, you know, you can lock your arms 612 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: out and uh and as long as you're inside the 613 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: framework of the body. I said, you can't put your 614 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: arms around defensive players and bear hug them, but you 615 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: know you can, you can even grab you can grab 616 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: cloth if you're inside the flamework of the of the 617 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: of the body of the person you're trying to block. 618 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: And I mean, I've been on both sides of that. 619 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,239 Speaker 1: When I first started playing, it was you had to 620 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: keep your hands and you had to keep them buy 621 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: your chest and you you could throw a forearm type thing, 622 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: but you could never extend your arms and open your 623 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: hands and grab people. There's no way any of that 624 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: can happen. Uh. And we were human punching bags, There's 625 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 1: no question about it. Defensive players could head slap, they 626 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: could do everything. I mean, they just tee off on you, 627 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: and you know, you're you're you're just uh, you're just 628 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: an instrument to absorb, you know, punishment. It was crazy. 629 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: Now allowing offensive lineman to do that, I think it 630 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: has changed the game unbelievably because part of the reason 631 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: that it's it's a it's a better passing it's a 632 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: passing game now is because offensive linement can you know, 633 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: can pass protect so much easier. You can do so 634 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: much more in terms of trying to uh, you know, 635 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: prevent defensive players from getting your quarterback in a heartbeat, 636 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: and that allows the field to open up, and so 637 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: I think that was a major major rule change, big 638 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: time question from Lockey, who does not have the glass 639 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: half full based on this question, If God forbid, Joe 640 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: Burrow suffers a season ending injury and the Bengals earn 641 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: the number one overall draft pick again, would they take 642 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence or trade down? Wow, it's not gonna happen, Lockey, 643 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: don't worry, buddy, Lockey. That is about as dark as 644 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: it gets. Man, have an adult bet it's loosen up 645 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: a little bit, my man. Oh goodness, Yeah, that's nothing. 646 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: I don't even want to think about that. Um, that 647 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: would be that would be tragic, you know, but it's 648 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: it's um, it's funny. You're not funny. It's sad. Really. 649 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 1: I mean, Kenny Anderson got his opportunity because Greg Cook, 650 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: who was the greatest going to be the greatest quarterback 651 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: in Bengal's history, if not amongst the best in NFL 652 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: history at the University of Cincinnati, you know, I mean, 653 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: he just this guy was a freak freak athlete and 654 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: he had that terrible shoulder injury and then um, you know, 655 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: eventually they drafted Key Anderson. So I mean it happens. Unfortunately, 656 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: it happens. You do have the injuries. I don't hate 657 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: to think about career ending injuries, but sepe of injuries, 658 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: they're going to put people on on a shelf. I 659 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: mean that that would be, you know, something that it 660 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: certainly didn't want to contemplate happening after you draft somebody, 661 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, the first pick in the entire draft. Um, 662 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: it would have to be I think for them to 663 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: go quarterback again, they would have to be a debilitating, 664 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: almost career ending injury. Um. And we're not talking about 665 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: somebody who's drafting in the top ten. You know, we're 666 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: not We're not talking about that. We're not talking about 667 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: like what happened in Arizona where they draft a quarterback 668 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: in the top ten and then you know he's traded 669 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: away and then they draft a quarterback number one and 670 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: Tyler Mars. It's it's not we're not talking about that 671 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: type of situation. UM. So I think, to me, I 672 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: think the odds are introtestinably small, not gonna happen. Lockey, 673 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: don't worry about her buddy Yep from Cornelius, who is 674 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: up to battle for the kicker job or do the 675 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: Bengals think they're set. There are no other kickers on 676 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 1: the roster right now, so that would seem to indicate 677 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: their set, right. Yeah, I think they're I think they're 678 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: pretty pretty pretty well set. I think they're um. They 679 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: feel like they've got you know, people that they can 680 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: count on, uh in terms of getting things done when 681 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: when the press is on and and trying to you know, 682 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: make a big play to win a football game. And 683 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: you I know they I know they like every phase 684 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: of it. You know, Harris as a snapper has been 685 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. Huber as a punter has been 686 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. They don't have a Pro Bowl 687 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: plays clicker, but you know, they feel like they've got 688 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: somebody that can can handle the task issue. I think, 689 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, again with the coronavirus though, I mean, everything 690 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 1: is so stalled, you know, I don't think there's any 691 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 1: rush to do anything right now. And honestly, like we're 692 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: talking about earlier, it would not shock me if a 693 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 1: ton of teams around in the league end up having 694 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: far fewer than ninety players, you know, nineties number that 695 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: the NFL allows to come to camp. It would not 696 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: stun me if teams have fewer fewer players than that, 697 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: you know in training camp, it would not stun me whatsoever. 698 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: And and you know, how do you how do you 699 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: give a kicker? You want to look at him for 700 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: a long period of time. You want to set up 701 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: as many multiple competitions as you can to see, you know, 702 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: who is who is the guy? You haven't had time 703 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: to do that, And I don't know. I mean, this 704 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: is such an unusual year in terms of evaluating players. 705 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: If if, if you are somebody looking to earn a 706 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: spot somewhere in some way, shape or form, whatever that 707 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: may be, this might be the toughest year to try 708 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 1: to get that done. If you're established, you might feel 709 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: a little bit more comfortable. But if you're not, man, 710 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: it's a tough year to try to start a start 711 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: a career out when you're you know, you're totally unestablished 712 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: and you're not a high draft pick and you're not 713 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: a sought after veteran free agent. I mean, it's a 714 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: it's a very very tough year for that for sure. 715 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: Question from Scott is the current offensive line personnel good 716 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: enough to protect Joe Burrow and allow him to have 717 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: a season comparable to Andy Dalton and AJ Green's rookie year. Well, 718 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 1: the one commonality that hopefully he has is a healthy 719 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: AJ Green and you know, not a rookie AJA Green. 720 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow will have an AJ Green that was a 721 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: perennial Pro Bowl player unhealthy and has proven himself to be, 722 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, among the top worst case scenario when healthy, 723 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: top five, top handful, maybe top three, you know, when 724 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: totally healthy in the NFL. So that would be a 725 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: huge advantage for Joe Burrow and Joe Burrow I think 726 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of similarities and with the learning capacities 727 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: and mindsets and mentalities of Joe Burrow and Andy Dalton, 728 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: I think in a very very positive way. So the 729 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: question is, you know, Joe Burrow is going to know 730 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: what he's looking at. He's gonna know where to throw 731 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: the football, how to throw the football, and when to 732 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: throw the football, and you know he's gonna get them 733 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 1: out of bad plays into better plays. The key component 734 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,439 Speaker 1: is will the offensive line given time to op given 735 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: time to do all those things? And that's that's the 736 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: that's the million dollar question. I think potentially, you know, 737 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: there are some guys up there that have skill sets, 738 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: you know, Jonah Williams from what I'm watching him on 739 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: tape in college. He's got a great skill set and 740 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: it's at the SEC level, which is the highest level 741 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: you can face in college football. But it's not the 742 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: National Football League. And you know, there have been I 743 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: don't want to be Debbie Downer, but I've seen many 744 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: first round draft picks not be able to cut the mustard. 745 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: I've seen many first round draft picks able to cut 746 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: the mustard. So I think I think he'll cut the mustard. 747 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: You know, I think Michael Jordan has untapped potential. Trey 748 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 1: Hopkins got themselves an extension and earned it and deserved 749 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: it um physically and mentally. He's he's a he's a 750 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: hell of a football player, Uh, sue A fee level. Uh. 751 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: You knows does an NFL experience. But when you have 752 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: forty percent of the offensive law has not taken a 753 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 1: snap as the Cincinnati Bengal and Michael Jordan's snaps are 754 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, minimal? Bobby hard at right tackle Fred Johnson 755 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: in a fight there, Isaiah Prents me. They've got bodies, 756 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 1: They've got people. The question is, like the talked about earlier, 757 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: will they play like a fifth. Will they play as one? 758 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: Will they play cohesive? Will they play as a unit? 759 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I always like to use this number. 760 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: Offensive line play can be summed up like this. You 761 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: throw the ball twenty times in a game. You're an 762 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. You blocked your guy nineteen times out of twenty. 763 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: He beats you once, maybe for a pressure, hopefully not 764 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: a stack, but you grade ninety five. Everybody in the 765 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: offensive line blocks their guy nineteen times out of twenty, 766 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: and they all grade in eight ninety five. Problem is, 767 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: they all get beaten on different snaps. So instead of 768 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: grading ninety five as a group, you grade seventy five, 769 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: five of the twenty times you were beaten as a group. 770 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: So you greatly see so individually everybody. And I had 771 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: a game. I got my chest pumped out. You know, 772 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: I blocked my guy. I blocked at an a level 773 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: and now, well we all did, but the quarterback it 774 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: hit five times. And as a group, you guys will see. 775 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: To me, that is the epitome of teamwork. The offensive 776 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: line is the epitome of teamwork. And until those guys 777 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: prove that they can, you know, work together like that 778 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: and be make all the components. When you add everybody's 779 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 1: talents and abilities up, you have, you know, a sooner 780 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: justic effect. One plus one equals three, not just two. 781 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 1: Because they're playing so well together and we can hide 782 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: each other. If there's a weakness, they configure out a 783 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: way to hide it by making a call and giving 784 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: some help here, doing whatever. That's that's the key to 785 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: offensive line play. It's how are you performing as a unit? 786 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: How are you performing as a group? One more follow 787 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: up to that last question. Andy Dalton obviously led the 788 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: Bengals to nine wins his rookie year and a spot 789 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but statistically he wasn't great as a rookie. 790 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 1: He was good twenty touchdown passes, thirteen picks, passer rating 791 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: of eighty point four by Justin. Following up on that 792 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: last question, I think Joe Burrow stands a very good 793 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: chance of surpassing those numbers. The hard part will be 794 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: matching the nine wins. All right, question from Brian Man 795 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: and others, why not make a run at free agent 796 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: offensive lineman Larry Warford, the three time pro bowler out 797 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: of UK who was recently released by the Saints. Yeah, 798 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean I think there are a lot of people 799 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: that are trying to determine around the league, trying to 800 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: determine whether they make a run out him or not. 801 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: I think part of the right now is economics. You know, 802 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: That's why he's not a New Orleans Saint anymore. And 803 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: in the Bengals are like we're talking about not only 804 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: trying to sign all their rookies and you know what 805 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: you're spending from a cap standpoint, I mean, everything is uh, 806 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, is basically predetermined. The Bengals know exactly what 807 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: they have to spend on rookies based on the number 808 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: that they've they've they've drafted you know seven, I mean 809 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 1: New England drafted fourteen. They know what they have to spend. 810 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: The Bengals know what they have to spend. It's all 811 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: predicated on slotted where they're drafted, and Bengals have some 812 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: high draft pick picks everywhere else. They're going to be 813 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 1: spending some money on their rookies in their in their 814 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: salary job. They have to just need to. And then 815 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: you want to extend agree and you want to extend 816 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. You know, it's it's where your priorities and 817 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: how far along are you in the process of all 818 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: those things and what might be left over, and then 819 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: you make a determination based on you know who, how 820 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: many people are are competing for the services of Warford, 821 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: where's that contract going to end up? And I'll guarantee 822 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: if it's been discussed that there's there's not one of 823 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: the Saints made their decision. Thirty one of the teams. 824 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: They all have to just the Saints have decided. But 825 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: maybe not. Maybe if Warford is out there and there's 826 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: not the dollars out there that he thinks may he 827 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: may come back to the Saints and saying what about this, 828 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: and maybe the Saints saying hello, Yeah. So I mean 829 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: there's a lot to a lot to play out in 830 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: terms of what's going on with him. And there's no 831 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: way in my mind the Bengals having kicked the tires, 832 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, thought about that, that that that process. But 833 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of variables in the equation. 834 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: And you know, that's the way it is when a 835 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of teams around the league on 836 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: top of the game, you know, the coronavirus, and he 837 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: can't get your hands on him and give him a 838 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: physical and all the things I mean, he's played a 839 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: lot of snaps in the National Football League at the stage, 840 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: and so you want to make sure that that there 841 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: are no surprises there physically as well. So you know, 842 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: it's it's all a slow, slow process. He reportedly wants 843 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: seven million a year. He's a big man, three hundred 844 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: thirty pounds plus. And I read one story out of 845 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: a New Orleans outlet that said there was a significant 846 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: drop off in his play last year even though he 847 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: was a pro bowler, and he had weight and conditioning issues. 848 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's true. I haven't studied 849 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: it enough, but I did read that, and I wonder 850 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: based on that, if you've really got to get your 851 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 1: hands on that guy before you commit that kind of money. Well, 852 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: if he um and that does happen, guys will decline 853 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: and still make the Pro Bowl best based on reputation. 854 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes it becomes a popularity contest and it 855 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: doesn't catch up as a guy to he you know, 856 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,839 Speaker 1: he has another year that's not maybe as good as 857 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: it was when he was a pro bowler, And if 858 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: he had weight and conditioning problems last year, this year 859 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: with the coronavirus, and you have to be a self 860 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: starter in terms of working out and finding a place 861 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: to work out, and you have to really commit yourself 862 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: to your profession. And he had problems last year in 863 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: that regard. Boy, he'd be radioactive until I can at 864 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: least see him, you know, and see you know, is 865 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: he a hot mess or is he in some kind 866 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: of a monicuma condition to that you can work with 867 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,919 Speaker 1: where you know he might be able to get back 868 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: to playing at his at his form, his prior form. 869 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: You know, maybe he had a wake up call and 870 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: he's in great shape, or maybe you know he's down 871 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 1: down the dumps because of what happened last year and 872 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: he's in worse shape, And you don't know until you 873 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: work them out and you see him right, all right. 874 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: Question from Matthew with Burrows accuracy, do you see pass catchers, 875 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: especially wide receivers, having an easier time boosting stats? This 876 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: question comes from Matthew Heitzman, not fantasy football guru Matthew Barry, 877 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: because it sounds sounds kind of like somebody who's interested 878 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: in those fantasy numbers for the Bengals wide receivers in 879 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: the Joe Burrow era. You know, I do think that 880 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that have uncanny accuracy can improve the numbers 881 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,720 Speaker 1: for their receivers on a yards per catch basis totally 882 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 1: yards as a result of that, and everything goes along 883 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: with it because there's completions and then there's completions. By that, 884 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,919 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, you can put the ball on him 885 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: and complete it and you make him stop to make 886 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: the catch and he's tackled. Or I'm talking about a 887 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: guy that's on a slant and he's running open, but 888 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 1: you make him stop to catch the football and he 889 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,240 Speaker 1: gets me built. Or a guy that's on a slant, 890 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,240 Speaker 1: he's open and you lead him where he doesn't break stride. 891 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: He catches the football and he catch he's in full 892 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: stride when he catches it and takes for a seven 893 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: yard touchdown all at John rosterd when he went up 894 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: to up to see him up the gut, you know 895 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 1: in score. So quarterbacks that have that uncanny innate ability 896 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: to to put it to spots where you know the 897 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: receiver can catch the football in full stride, those are 898 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: the guys that are gold. And I think Joe Burrow 899 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: does have that ability. I think he showed that kind 900 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: of ability. You know at LSU. The other thing, you know, simple, 901 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 1: You see completions work. The quarterback makes the receiver work 902 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: too hard and he falls to the ground. You know, 903 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: in college they're down. Now you can get back up 904 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,240 Speaker 1: and run in the NFL, but HeLEX they're on the ground. 905 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: You ain't getting up and run it too far. In 906 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: the NFL, You're gonna get destroyed. You're gonna get smoked 907 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: while you're on the ground. Probably, So you want to 908 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: keep people on their feet and if possible, you want 909 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: to hit them in stride. And that's where numbers increase. 910 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 1: For receivers and quarterbacks that can you know, yeah, execute 911 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: that type of a completion accuracy. Those are the ones 912 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 1: that are you know, amost the best in the league 913 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: for sure. Question from Big Mike, what's the plan for 914 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: Billy Price? Is he going to compete for a starting 915 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 1: a starting spot or is it safe to say he's 916 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 1: going to be a backup? Well, I think I think everybody. 917 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: The one thing that that I will sell the offensive 918 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: line coaches mindset is it's meritocracy. I mean, if you 919 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: if you earn the job, you're going to get the job. 920 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: And that's why I mean, you have to pencil somebody 921 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: in as a starting line as you know, as a 922 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 1: starter in your line. And I do think, you know, 923 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: the starting five would probably be Jonah Williams at left tackle, 924 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan left guard, Trey Hopkins at center, Davie sue 925 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: A Filo at right guard, and Bobby Hart initially at 926 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: right tackle and then compete best man wins. So I 927 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: don't think that Billy Price is necessarily penciled in as 928 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: a starter, but you know, if he has a has 929 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: a very strong performance, you know, in again, now we're 930 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: talking about a potentially shortened training camp, but if he 931 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: goes out and performs well in preseason games, performs well 932 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: in the early stages of regular season games, and you know, 933 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,760 Speaker 1: if guys good line coaches I play for, if guys 934 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 1: have shown that they can play, you might have seven guys. 935 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 1: You may have seven guys that you feel like could 936 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: start rotate them. I mean you rotate. You rotate defensive lineman. 937 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 1: Why they he'll not rotate offensive lineman. You're rotating defensive 938 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: lineman to keep him fresh. You can play more than 939 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, five offensive lineman if you feel like you're 940 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: not gonna drop off in terms of performance and keep 941 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 1: guys fresh and play guys at multiple positions. And you 942 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: know I experienced that. I mean, the more positions you 943 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: can play, the more valuable you are. And uh, you know, 944 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: Billy Price, if he shows he's the equally effective at center, right, left, 945 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: right or left guard, he's got some value. Um, you know. 946 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 1: And if he if he shows, he should get some snaps, 947 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, some snaps. So and I'm you know, I'm 948 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 1: not talking about every other series, you know, I'm talking 949 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: about you know, maybe rolling a guy in their period 950 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: just to keep them shop and uh, you know, and 951 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 1: to keep other guys fresh. And so I mean, in 952 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: a perfect world, you've got eight offensive linemen. It's you 953 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: don't really like. I mean, there's there's a whisker difference 954 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: between the talents and the performance potential production, you know, 955 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: of all of them. And then then it starts to 956 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: get into the other things. Uh, the intelligence factor. Coaches 957 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 1: are confident with smart players. If the other guy that is, 958 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, one percent guy never makes any mental mistakes, 959 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: that's a tiebreaker. Now that's a tiebreaker. So there are 960 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: a lot of things you evaluate, but you want to 961 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: have you don't want to have just five quote five 962 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: starting offensive libin you want to have you know, seven 963 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: or eight as you possibly can. All right, final ask 964 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: lap question. This one comes from Jim and I'm shocked 965 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,879 Speaker 1: that I have never asked you this question. Here goes, 966 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 1: what's the most you ever benched, squatted and deadlifted? Whoa? 967 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's interesting because I was in the 968 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: era of Nautilus with the Bengals. We didn't use free weights. 969 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 1: So in a Syracuse, I mean, the most eye benched 970 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:52,439 Speaker 1: was four ten. I can't remember when I squatted. I think, 971 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, it got to the point where they were 972 00:52:55,120 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: very very uh nervous about you know, letting you load 973 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: up and squatting ridiculous amount of weights to max and 974 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: so we would we would use you know, significant amount 975 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: of weight and try to rep rep that weight in 976 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: terms of squatting and deadlifting. Man, you know, I never 977 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 1: did that deadlift either, you know, being in that in 978 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 1: that era that I was in. But I will say 979 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: one thing our work construction, um concrete forms and UM. 980 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: I remember picking up some concrete forms that had you know, 981 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: dried concrete in them and you pick them up off 982 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: the ground and it's like, I don't know how much 983 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 1: a weight. But boy, that was that was a big 984 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: old deadlift. And I remember the ones that weren't quite 985 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: as filled with as much concrete, you know, let's stick, 986 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, pressing them over my head and try. I 987 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 1: was trying to get a workout doing the construction job, 988 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, kind of curling some of these concrete forms 989 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: if I could grab them well enough. And then I 990 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 1: also moved furniture as well, did the construction job in furniture. 991 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: And remember, you know, taking a refrigerator, putting it on 992 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 1: my back with the strap and going up three flights 993 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: of stairs to an apartment and delivering a refrigerator. That's 994 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: a squad. That's a good thing. That was. That was. 995 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: I remember my legs were quivering. Men I got I 996 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: got to that third floor and I was like, whoa, 997 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: put that thing down, and my legs were like shaken. 998 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 1: But that was, you know, that was great work. So um. 999 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,959 Speaker 1: But you know, Kim Wood was was a strong coach 1000 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 1: and he P Brown were partners in Nautilus and the 1001 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 1: Bengals were huge Nautilus disciples. Uh that's what that's what 1002 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: we worked out was mostly. Well, your four ten bench 1003 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: press is currently the lead in the Bengals Booth. You've 1004 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: got You've got me beat for now, but now I 1005 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: have a target. If I can double my all time high, 1006 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 1: I have a chance. All Right, you're off the hot seat. 1007 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: Appreciate the information as always. Hope to see you soon. 1008 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,240 Speaker 1: All right, damn the man, I have a great one. 1009 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 1: Here's one final note before we wrap things up. I 1010 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, I'm recording this on Friday, June fifth, and 1011 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: tonight at eight o'clock Eastern time, NBC Sports Network is 1012 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 1: airing Super Bowl twenty three in its entirety. I plan 1013 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: to watch before turning it off after Jim Breach's game 1014 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 1: winning field goal with three twenty to go. 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