1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Oh John, Oh Sam, I love you so much. I 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: love you almost as much as the great stories that 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: are about to come up. 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: And you know what, I love equally as much as 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: the two minutes of sponsors coming up, because they support 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: the show and make sure that we will have our happily. 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 3: Ever, after my ex boyfriend proposed to me and we 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 3: broke up, I knew he wasn't the one. 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 4: What twas the. 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: Christmas before last my boyfriend proposed to me. I broke 11 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: up with him a few weeks later. Honestly, I don't 12 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: want to run about this name's change. So I now 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 3: thirty female, wasn't a tumultuous or just bad on and 14 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: off relationship with Jay now thirty one male for eight years. 15 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: Year before he proposed was genuinely awful. He would get 16 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: off work around three PM just play video games till 17 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: midnight or sometimes even later. I had a regular job 18 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: nine to five. I would get off to kurt and clean. 19 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: I also have pets that I would get up early 20 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: and run with the dog and take care of my cats. 21 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Awkward Turtle on the 22 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: r slash Okay storytime, so I've read him. So I 23 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: had an ovarian cyst rupture and was the most pain 24 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: I'd ever been I have an insanely high pain tolerance, 25 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: so that is really saying something. I went to the 26 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: hospital after I was supposed to be healed from my systrupturing, 27 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: I realized I was still in constant pain. The pain 28 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: continued to get worse. I wasn't able to run with 29 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: my dog in the morning anymore because of it, and 30 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: I would drag myself through my workdays. I was beyond 31 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: exhausted and I would beg for some help from Jay 32 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: with at least doing stuff around the house. He said 33 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: I don't work as much as him, and that my 34 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: job isn't as physically taxing as his is. He said 35 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: he is so tired after work and just wants to 36 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: relax after work. He would expect praise for just putting 37 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 3: dishes in the dishwasher, not even doing the dishes that 38 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: needed to be done by hand, or for the few 39 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: times he would put laundry into the washer. He would 40 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: do less than the bare minimum and expect to be praised. 41 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: Then I finally had enough of the pain and went 42 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 3: on a long journey of going from doctor to doctor 43 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: to figure out what was wrong. I am really uncomfortable 44 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: going to any doctor in general. I had to do 45 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: a lot of advocating for myself. I finally got to 46 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: a doctor who actually took me seriously. She told me 47 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: I had severe fibroids that could be seen from the 48 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 3: ultrasound they took from my hospital stay. She had me 49 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 3: get another ultrasound, and it turned out that in the 50 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: three months from my previous ultrasound, I went from having 51 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 3: thirteen non cancerous growths twenty seven, and they had all 52 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: doubled or tripled in size. 53 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 5: Oh, my god, I. 54 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: Was not doing so hot right now, not doing so. 55 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 5: Would you even do in that situation. 56 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: To God that something will be fixed? 57 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 4: Oh? 58 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: What was the size of the golf ball and the 59 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: other the size of a softball. Asked about my options, 60 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: I was told I could get them removed, but they 61 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: were likely to come back. I also said they had 62 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: a new surgery that would soften the gross but again 63 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: I would likely still grow new ones. My god, I 64 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: made the tough decision to get hysterectomy. 65 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 5: D I mean, I guess that's like the only thing 66 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 5: that would absolutely stop this. 67 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't want to go through this again and 68 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: if I got pregnant, it would most likely be a topic. 69 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: It would be super dangerous for me in any future child. 70 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: My doctor was on my side, but I had a 71 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: heck of a time finding a gynecologist that would allow 72 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: me to do the surgery. I met with a lot 73 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: of gynecologists that would tell me you're so young, you'll 74 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: want children in the future, regret the surgery. They would 75 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: ignore the pain I was in and never addressed how 76 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: pregnancy would be dangerous. I finally found a gynecologist that 77 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: was on my side and listen to my concerns. She 78 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: scheduled the surgery from my birthday in January. I just 79 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: had to hold out for four more months. During all this, 80 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: I got zero support from Jay. He kept commenting on 81 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: my weight. I had gained a decent amount of weight 82 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: since I wasn't too much pain to run anymore. I 83 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: told him I would likely lose it. After I recovered 84 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: from surgery and got back to exercising, I would beg 85 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: him to spend more time with me. His whole schedule 86 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: was to go to work, play video games, come down 87 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: for a plate of food I cooked, return to the 88 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 3: video games, and sleep for a few hours. Wake up 89 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: rents repeat Ah. I confronted him, and he said I 90 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: could hank with him while he played his games. 91 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: Oh fun. 92 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: He even went as far as saying, you could even 93 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: support me from another desk. Now it's almost Christmas and 94 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 3: I am exhausted, just waiting for the next week's until 95 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: my surgery. I have a deep seated hatred for Christmas. 96 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: I just have never enjoyed or liked anything about it. 97 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: I have a sneaking suspicion I have some sort of 98 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: repressed Christmas related trauma. Honestly have no want to uncover 99 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: that at this time. I have enough trauma I'm sorting 100 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: through as is. Also also, I've never poo pooted anyone 101 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: else's holiday. I just don't like it. One day, I 102 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: get home from work and I'm tired and all across 103 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: feeling gross. He's standing by my fireplace. He told me 104 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: to come over and make a video to send to 105 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: his relatives. I told him I really don't want to. 106 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: I am just too tired and had nothing left in 107 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: me to pretend for him and his family that I 108 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: love Christmas and I'm so happy. Eventually coaxed me into it, 109 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: so I plastered on my best customer service, smile and 110 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 3: stand next to him and record the most forced Mary 111 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: Chris I have done in a long time. Midway through, 112 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: he gets on one knee and proposes to me. In 113 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: the moment I was done, and I just said yes, 114 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: But in the back of my mind I knew there 115 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: was no way I was marrying this gap. 116 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 5: Don't do it. Don't do it. 117 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: So Christmas goes and he's telling this whole family that 118 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 3: we're engaged and how happy he is. I meanwhile, I'll 119 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: have nothing to say to anyone, just kind of disassociated 120 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: through all of it. Counting down the days until my surgery, 121 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: I kind of have been wanting to see how Jay 122 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 3: would treat me through my recovery, to see how it 123 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: would be if I seriously needed him. Then, based on 124 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: that stay or leave. 125 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 5: You already have your answer, though you already know I 126 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 5: don't you know that he's like not treating you right 127 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 5: with this kind of stuff, So like, you don't need, 128 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 5: you don't need a whole nother situation of how he 129 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 5: would handle like a really tough time for you, because 130 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 5: this already is tough. You're already going through all this 131 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 5: pain and he's not being supportive at all. 132 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: So you are leaving what. 133 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 5: He's gonna do. Yeah, and you shouldn't have to, like 134 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 5: have another example to make that decision. 135 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: Leave him call of family. Remember to make sure that 136 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: you recover well. I made sure to be very clear 137 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: with him what I would need. I told him I 138 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 3: will need your help a lot, and I'm going to 139 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: be out of work for six weeks. I will be 140 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: able to cook or clean, It would all be up 141 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: to him. I would need help taking my dog out, 142 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 3: as we had stairs and my doctor told me to 143 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: use them no more than three times a day for 144 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: the first couple of weeks. I also told him he's 145 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 3: going to have to remind me of my limitation since 146 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 3: I'm a very headstrong person. He would reassure me that 147 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: he would take care of me and help me. Even 148 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 3: took two weeks off to help. Surprise, surprise, he didn't 149 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: help me at all. Guess where he was the whole time, Angie. 150 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: He spent two weeks playing video games. Even got as 151 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: bad as me screaming for his help. But you're gonna 152 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: hear me because he had his headset on Babe. 153 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm not dead, Babe. 154 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: I can't pause this online game. The house was in 155 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: complete disarray. I am forever grateful to my amazing coworkers 156 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: who droped off meals for me and him through all 157 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: of it. He would not cook us anything. I end 158 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: up reaching out to one of my coworkers in tears 159 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: because I didn't know what to do. She set up 160 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: a train of meals split between all my coworkers to 161 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: make sure I had something to eat every day, neglecting her. 162 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: She needs to help and he's not doing anything. 163 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: Well. 164 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 5: I feel like that's hard because I feel like you 165 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 5: can't there's no legal action that you could take against that. 166 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 5: But I really love that the coworkers did that. 167 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 3: No, no, no, coworkers. 168 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 6: I always loved that. 169 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 5: When I was a kid, I remember like certain neighbors, 170 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 5: My neighbors were all super close nice, and then I 171 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 5: just remember like certain neighbors would go through things I 172 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 5: was kids. I don't really know exactly what was going on, 173 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 5: but certain surgeries and certain family issues and stuff, and 174 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 5: I think the other neighbors would set up a schedule 175 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 5: to when we would make each make food for them 176 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 5: and take it over. And I just think that's such 177 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 5: a nice thing, and that is so nice that the 178 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 5: coworkers are doing that, and so that the boyfriend or 179 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 5: whatever can't even like do anything like whish. She was 180 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 5: listing out everything that she needed him to do. I 181 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 5: was like, too much, too much. Again, this man has 182 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 5: not developed. This is a little toddler who cannot fath 183 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 5: them all the work that he has to do. 184 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: I plan on breaking up with him the moment I 185 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: felt physically able to. But on the third week he 186 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: happened to come to bed a bit early, and I 187 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: was honestly so happy to even have his small crumb 188 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: of his attention. This quickly dissolved into horror when out 189 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: of the corner of my I read a text that read, hey, handsome, 190 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 3: how is your roommate recovered? 191 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: Of course, of course, because of course, because of course 192 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 5: he is. 193 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: I thought I was seeing things. We didn't have roommates. 194 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: I just turned over and pretended to fall asleep. Once 195 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: he was asleep, I did it. I went through his phone. 196 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: My heart sunk, through my stomach and out my butt. 197 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: It just wasn't one person. It was over twenty. 198 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 5: Oh my god. 199 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: He would send them pictures of my pets, talking about 200 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: how cute his roommate's pets were. Then picture of him. 201 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: He would then flirt with them. The roughest part was 202 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: when he did this. He did this on the day 203 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: he proposed to me. He did this on Christmas. He 204 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: did this on my birthday. While I was in surgery. 205 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: I felt like I had been hit by a bus. 206 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 5: Oh my goodness. 207 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: I confronted him the next day about it. At first, 208 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: he tried to deny everything, even craft, and said, I've 209 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: been meaning to tell you I'm a catfish. This was 210 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: the most absurd thing I've ever heard. I told him 211 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: that his n house calffishing works. You don't send pictures 212 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 3: of yourself if you were catfishing. 213 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: Wait, yeah, what he said? 214 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: He had no intention of meeting up with any of them. 215 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: He just used them to boost his confidence and ghost them, 216 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: as if that was to make it any better. I 217 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: told him to get out of my house and I 218 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: will never want to see him again. He peacefully left. 219 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 3: He spent months groveling and begging for me back, and 220 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,119 Speaker 3: I told him to leave me alone. He would immediately 221 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: switch to insulting me. I eventually blocked him and just 222 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 3: felt so free. When I held well from my hysterectomy 223 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: and started processing everything, I just went through. In April, 224 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: I decided I wanted to start seeing people. I got 225 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: on Bubble and Match with Leon now twenty eight mile. 226 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: Leon was on the outskirts of my friend groups and 227 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: we had even briefly hooked up when Jay and I 228 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 3: were on a break a few years ago. Thanks and 229 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: we can hold up with you every weekday at three 230 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 3: pm PSD on YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, and Twitter. Just typer 231 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: profile this type of profile. Dang that that one. 232 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 5: She bound back though, Oh yeah, she totally did. 233 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: I knew it was too soon to start dating again, 234 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: but I just couldn't resist him. He said he would 235 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: wait for me, but it was just too good. We 236 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 3: would talk about anything. Everything moved very fast. Now we 237 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 3: are engaged. We are so happy together. He's too busy 238 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: showering me in love and building war Hammer. Minis to 239 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: be out catfishing day and that's a happy ending right there. 240 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: Happy whoa Yeah. 241 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 3: That dude's real review would be negative five yeah yeah, 242 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: and then all the pictures on the Yelp review would 243 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: just be like his screenshots on him talking to other girls. 244 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 5: Dude, crazy, it's crazy, crazy stuff. 245 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: That's seeing that story. 246 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 5: That's the end of the story. My friend and her 247 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 5: mother are being scammed mercilessly. 248 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: Need some advice please? 249 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 5: Oh no, oh no. A friend and her mother are 250 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 5: both being scammed and it's been going on for several years. 251 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: It's scary and terrible. First, the mother, she's ninety five 252 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 5: years old, Oh no, and a few years ago, fell 253 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 5: for a sweepstake scam, supposedly publisher's clearing house and gave 254 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 5: the scammers forty thousand dollars. I just learned, to my 255 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: utter astonishment and dismay, that the mother is still in 256 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 5: touch with her scammers. She has changed her cell phone 257 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 5: number three times, and somehow they still get her new number. 258 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 5: Her daughter, my friend Sarah, says that it's like they're 259 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 5: always one sip ahead of her. The next step is 260 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 5: for the mother to get a new landline number, because 261 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 5: she still has and uses a landline. I don't know why, 262 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 5: but I hope that they will do this asap. By 263 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 5: the way, this comes from splendid as me on the 264 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 5: r slage. Okay, storytime separated it so just now. Sarah 265 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 5: told me that this morning alone, one of four men 266 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 5: who keep calling her called thirty times in succession, claiming 267 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 5: to be from the FDIC and threatening her with jail. 268 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 5: This man also mentioned Sarah's name to the mother, claiming 269 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 5: that Sarah has been reporting her mother to the FDIC. Y'all, 270 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,359 Speaker 5: this is so complicated and so effed up. They're terrorizing 271 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 5: and confusing this very sweet and trusting old lady. Sarah 272 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 5: doesn't know what to do. Can this activity be reported 273 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 5: to someone? They've tried local law enforcement and have been 274 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 5: blown off. If she's capable of living alone and making 275 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 5: her own decisions, then there's nothing we can do. She says. 276 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 5: She's choosing her own free will to talk to these people. 277 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 5: Does this type of harassment qualify as a crime? Would 278 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 5: the FBI? Holp? Meanwhile, Sarah is the victim of a 279 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 5: very long romance scam four years low romance, Oh oh. 280 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 5: She's convinced that she's been having an online relationship with 281 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 5: a famous musician and that he's going to leave his 282 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 5: wife of fifty years and marry Sarah. 283 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: Time the fl this happened to my mom's friend's mom. Really, 284 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: no joke? 285 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 5: Does she write this story? It's he says me. 286 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: Maybe No, I don't know, dude. 287 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 5: They've never met, never talked in the phone, except once 288 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 5: briefly at the very beginning, never video chatted because his 289 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 5: phone camera doesn't work, of course, nothing but texts on telegram. 290 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 5: She's given this scammer money, probably a lot of money, 291 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 5: maybe directly wiring it, maybe via gift cards, maybe via bitcoin, 292 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 5: maybe all three, I suspect. So the good news is 293 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 5: is that after months of my trying to just be 294 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 5: a good non judge listener and trying to give her 295 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 5: facts about how and why she's obviously being scammed and 296 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 5: let them sink in and never punishing her, she's maybe 297 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 5: finally starting to realize that she's been acting like a 298 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 5: cult member for the past four years. But she's still 299 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 5: really in denial all this poor woman, she's in love 300 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 5: with this famous singer. Apologies for the length of this post. 301 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 5: So worried about the mother and Sarah, whose mental health 302 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 5: is fragile at best at times. Do y'all have any 303 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 5: ideas about what can be done for her mom? Not 304 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 5: sure what the scam is called. It has to do 305 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 5: with shipping possessions. My friend is the victim of a 306 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 5: romance scam which has been going on for more than 307 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 5: four and a half years. She believes that a famous 308 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 5: rock musician is trying to divorce his evil wife, and 309 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 5: that as soon as that gets cleared up, he will 310 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 5: come live with my friend happily. Ever, apped she's impervious 311 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 5: to reason, logical argument, and expressions of alarm. She's given 312 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 5: this person many, many thousands of dollars. Her own elderly 313 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 5: mother is a victim of a publisher's clearing house scam, 314 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 5: also ongoing. The latest thing that's happened, and that I'm 315 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 5: not sure what to call, is that the famous rock 316 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 5: star is going to send my friends some of his 317 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: most prized precious possessions so that she can store them 318 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 5: safely for him. 319 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: You just have to pay the shipping fee. 320 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 5: You just have to give me your address. Why he 321 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 5: can't store them safely where he lives either France or 322 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 5: England supposedly, but of course more likely Poor Arthur and Iigeria, 323 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 5: or in his office or with a trusted friend or associate, 324 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 5: rather than sending them across the ocean to my friend 325 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 5: is unknown. I've begged her to pla, please not agree 326 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 5: to receive this supposed shipment, because it's not real and 327 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 5: she'll never see these precious possessions. But what will happen 328 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: is that once they're sent her. Famous rock star boyfriend 329 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 5: or his agent or some such will contact her to 330 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 5: say that there's been a delay and that she needs 331 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 5: to pay a special tariff or fee or surcharge or whatever, 332 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 5: and that this will happen multiple times, and each time 333 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 5: he will pressure her into paying. Not sure what this 334 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 5: scam is called. Has anyone else heard of it or 335 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 5: experienced it? I can find many resources online, videos, et 336 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 5: cetera about different kinds of scams, but not this one. Specifically. 337 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 5: I looked in the list of scams on this sub 338 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 5: and didn't find a description of it, but may have 339 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 5: missed it. I'd love to be able to send her 340 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 5: links to the videos that describes a scam, because even 341 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 5: though it feels hopeless, she's still my friend and I 342 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 5: still hope somehow to get through to her. However unlikely 343 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 5: that feels right now, and we do have a sad update. No, 344 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 5: do we have any final thoughts before we jump into 345 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 5: this supposed. 346 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 7: Sad update the hopeless I'm sorry, yeah, hopeless, Like, yeah, 347 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 7: you can look up on Google what to do if 348 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 7: I get scammed, and yeah, all of those steps that, yeah, 349 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 7: but think like, honestly, my real advice, yeah, throw your 350 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 7: phone and computer in the water. 351 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 5: Honestly, I think what you would need to do with 352 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 5: the rock stars, Yeah, I think you need to block 353 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 5: them forward these people because they can do it, and 354 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 5: they're just gonna fall victim to it, because you know, 355 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 5: older people usually don't have as much experience online with 356 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 5: this kind of stuff. But you know what else, old 357 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 5: people are stubborn. So and I mean that in the 358 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 5: highest respect, it is true, you know, And so a 359 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: lot of people are like send their ways and they 360 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 5: don't want to be told that their experiences are wrong, 361 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 5: because you know, no one really wants that true. Sometime back, 362 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 5: I posted about my friend Sarah, who is the victim 363 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 5: of a Facebook romance scam. It's now approaching five years 364 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 5: that she's been giving money to her a scammer who 365 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 5: she believes to be a member of a famous and 366 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 5: influential rock band. It turns out that not only has 367 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 5: she been wiring this criminal money, she's depleted an inheritance 368 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 5: and the proceeds from a property sale and retire her funds, 369 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 5: but she's also been sending electronics smartphones, Apple watches, iPads, 370 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 5: as well as Steam and Razor gold cards. In fact, 371 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 5: her bank called her in for a meeting because as 372 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 5: her fiduciary, they were extremely concerned that she was over 373 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 5: using her debit card to the tune of one thousand 374 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 5: dollars a week for those cards. She got mad and 375 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 5: closed her account, which of course is not what the 376 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 5: bank's goal was, and then for some reason, opened a 377 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 5: new account at a bank that's thirty miles from where 378 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 5: she lives and has no local branches. 379 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 380 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 5: Now her friends fear that she's going to sell the 381 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 5: house that her ancient mother lives in the house is 382 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 5: in Sarah's name, to get even more money to send. 383 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 5: She admirantly refuses to listen her friends, relatives, or even 384 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 5: concerned of physicians. We have tried everything, and I mean everything. 385 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 5: She's thrown away in excess of seven hundred and fifty 386 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 5: K at this point and still says that she loves 387 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 5: her baby. 388 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: You know what, whoa whoa whoa whoa yees. 389 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 5: Seven hundred and fifty that's a lot retirement fund inheritance. 390 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 5: She's thrown it away. And let me ask you, what 391 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 5: is this rock boyfriend doing for you? Huh? What is 392 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 5: he doing for you? You know what they should do? 393 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 5: And this is like a real idea. They should see 394 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 5: if this rock guy has a cameo and then get 395 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 5: the cameo. No, actually, it'd be less money than what 396 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 5: she's freaking spending on this guy. Ask him please, she's 397 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 5: being scammed and she thinks that she's dating you. Please 398 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 5: clear things up. 399 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 3: Oh, I thought the scammers would find this out high No, no, no, 400 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 3: So this is what I was thinking. The scammers hire him. No, 401 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: and they'd be like, Babe, I love you so much, 402 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 3: I'm leaving my evil wife for you. 403 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 5: Bab, I'm just send me thousands and millions of dollars 404 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 5: and then we'll all be good. And then he just 405 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 5: collects the three hundred dollars, so he guess from that 406 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 5: it's a great idea. So it's up to you guys. 407 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 6: Now. 408 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 5: Oh, and this is a person whom she's never video 409 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 5: chatted with and has never even spoke to you on 410 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 5: the phone for five years. Dang's lonely. But you can 411 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 5: always video chat with us actually on live on our 412 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 5: YouTube channel and on TikTok and on Twitch and face 413 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 5: book every single week day at three PMPSD. We'll never 414 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 5: We're not scammers. 415 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: Just Tapper profile, Just Tapper profile all we're going to 416 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: take is your time, not your money. 417 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, but anyway, there is more to this story, so 418 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 5: let's jump into it. Unless you have more things to 419 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 5: say before we go in. 420 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: Thro every device you have into a river. 421 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 5: Like at this point, people need to intervene. People actually 422 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 5: need to intervene. There's no like nice talking to it anymore. 423 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 5: I agree, but there is more to this story. It's 424 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 5: hard to watch and there's nothing left to do. There's 425 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 5: no moral to this sad story except perhaps intervene as 426 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 5: soon as humanly possible. That's what I'm saying when this 427 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 5: kind of thing starts happening with your loved ones. I 428 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 5: didn't find out about my friend until more than two 429 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 5: years after she got hooked. At that point, she'd pretty 430 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 5: much been completely psychologically overtaken. And that is the op. 431 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 5: If you see this, please look for a cameo from 432 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 5: this guy. I honestly I think that that would work. 433 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 5: If she sees this man talking and is like, hey, 434 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 5: what the heck? Yeah, you know what I mean, and 435 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 5: then she could send it to the scammer and he'd 436 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 5: be like, no, babys, I love you, and then she'd 437 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 5: be like, well, what you know? You just told me 438 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 5: you have a wife and you're still staying together. Like, oh, man, 439 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 5: that's what I'm saying, to go search, cameo, dude, I 440 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 5: still need to update my my hacker stories that not 441 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 5: really hacker but like my scam possible scam story to 442 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 5: read it. Do you remember where they texted my mom? Yeah, 443 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 5: they texted my mom with the problem that I had. 444 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 5: And I was only texting people over like Instagram, and 445 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 5: oh I texted you over Instagram an email? Yeah, an email? 446 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 5: And I emailed my mom too, But they texted my 447 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 5: mom using words that I only used for you on Instagram, 448 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 5: saying like help my phone is broken, text me at 449 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 5: this number instead anyway. But that's the end of that story, 450 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 5: so let's get into this next one. 451 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 4: Go. 452 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: My fiance wants to end our relationship because I chose 453 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 3: another man first. I mean, that sounds about right. This 454 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 3: seems like a relationship, but end. I'm sorry if this 455 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 3: whole thing sounds a little rushed, but my fiance, Ryan, 456 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: who I've been with for seven years, told me today 457 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: that he's not sure whether he wants to be with 458 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 3: me anymore. And I realized it may sound stupid, but 459 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: I love him so much feels like my world is 460 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: falling apart around me. I don't know what I can 461 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: do either way. This comes from throwaway ninety eight on 462 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: the art slide showcase story tom Sebreddit. So this all 463 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: started a couple of days ago when we were celebrating 464 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 3: our anniversary. We invited a bunch of people, including one 465 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 3: of my closest friends, Ellie. She noticed my fiance being 466 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: affectionate towards me and made some stupid comment about how 467 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 3: she told me so that Ryan would be better for 468 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 3: me than my ex and deep. My fiance was a 469 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 3: little confused and asked Ellie, what you meant. Back when 470 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 3: I was in college, Andy and Ryan both asked me 471 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 3: out to the same event. I know Ryan since high 472 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 3: school and we'd always had a thing, but we weren't 473 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 3: a couple. On top of that, we went to another 474 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 3: college that was half an hour away from me. Andy 475 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: went to my college. His duram was five in a 476 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: walk away, and he was someone completely new. I began 477 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 3: to feel like my relationship with Ryan wouldn't be exciting 478 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: enough because we already knew almost everything about each other. 479 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: With the added headache of being half an hour away 480 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 3: from each other, by Ellie's prospects, I decided to go 481 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 3: with Andy. I know my reasoning is stupid, but I 482 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 3: never thought this decision had the potential to blow up 483 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 3: in my future. Ryan was already hurt that I redeclined 484 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: his request to go on to day. I didn't want 485 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: to make him feel worse by telling him I was 486 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: going with someone else, not that it mattered because he 487 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 3: stopped talking to me for about six months. During this time, 488 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 3: it became obvious that me and Andy weren't right for 489 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: each other, so we ended it. When Ryan and I 490 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: began talking again, I realized how much I missed him. 491 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 3: Now he was perfect for me, so I asked him out. 492 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: I was overjoyed, and that's how we got to this point. 493 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: For the rest of the party, I could tell that 494 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: his mood was off. He kept pulling away from my 495 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: kisses and touches and responded to me with one sentence answers. 496 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 3: After the party, when I asked him what was wrong, 497 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 3: he just said he felt sick. The next two days, 498 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: he continued to be cold and distant. I had no 499 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: idea what was happening, so I waited patiently for him 500 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 3: to become comfortable to talk to me today. He told 501 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 3: me the reason he'd been acting off From the story, 502 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: it sounded like I had kept him as my backup 503 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 3: or plan B in case my relationship with Andy Feld, 504 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: and that it was essentially messed up since we'd obviously 505 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 3: had feeling for each other a long time before. Then, 506 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: he also said that he deserved to be someone's first choice. 507 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: I thought that this was just an insecurity that we 508 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: could get through, but then he went to say that 509 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 3: he's not sure whether he can see our relationship in 510 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 3: the same light anymore, so it might be best if 511 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: we split up. I pleaded with him that we don't 512 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: need to take it that far, and that we should 513 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 3: just go to counseling or even just live separately for 514 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: a few days while he wants to think about whether 515 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: this is what he actually wants. So far, he hasn't 516 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: said anything except that he absolutely refuses to go to therapy. 517 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: I can tell that this is weighing on him heavily 518 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: because he's been drinking more than usual, and I don't 519 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 3: know what to say to make it feel better. We've 520 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: had a beautiful relationship. He's never been overly jealous or possessive, 521 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 3: and although neither of us are perfect. I could ask 522 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: for a more loving, respectful, intelligent, and charming soon to 523 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: the husband. I don't understand how all of that could 524 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: come to an end for a foolish mistake I made 525 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 3: seven years ago. I don't know what exactly I'm looking 526 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: for by posting on here, but if anyone has any advice, 527 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: please please let me know. 528 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: Edit. 529 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: I think I may have messed up with my wording. 530 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: He doesn't care that I dated someone else before him. 531 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 3: It bothers him that I had the choice between him 532 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: or Andy, and I chose Andy. We got an update. 533 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you're right, Opie, Yeah, this is just but 534 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 3: I see two red flags. 535 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: Man. 536 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 3: Maybe he's hurt right now, is that he usually copes. 537 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: But after a few days, if he's still saying no 538 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: to therapy, he's still going to the bottle. 539 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's hard because this just seems like it's just 540 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 5: a rough time for him in general, not because of 541 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 5: this situation. 542 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: And more's going on. 543 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 5: What'd you say? 544 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: Do you think more is going on? 545 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 5: I think more is going on because I mean, if 546 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 5: he's been turned into the bottle recently anyway, because it 547 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 5: doesn't seem like it's just because of this, like it's 548 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 5: just been he's been drinking more lately in general, and 549 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 5: if he's been doing that, something's going on. And then 550 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 5: he's obviously whatever this is is affecting his security and 551 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 5: his self confidence in himself. And then because of that, 552 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 5: all of that like priming, then it's like this is 553 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 5: now a bigger deal than it needs to be because 554 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 5: of you know what I mean. 555 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 3: I agreed after what happened in the last post. He 556 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: said that we should put off the wedding while we 557 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: decide on how to proceed. That means something right he 558 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 3: used the exact words put off instead of cancel. And 559 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 3: while we'll decide how to proceed, I think that means 560 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: he still hasn't decided that we should break up yet. 561 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: Maybe he'll just decide not to marry but to continue 562 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: our relationship. I don't think he's ready to give up 563 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 3: on our relationship yet, but he's moved to a hotel. 564 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: I know some people have told him to give him 565 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 3: some space, but I've decided that if a part of 566 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: him is willing to stay with me, I'm going to 567 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: do everything I can to give him another chance. I've 568 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 3: been dropping off food, leaving notes under his door. And 569 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 3: while we've been calling every day, sometimes twice a day, 570 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 3: right now we're both stuck in limbo. Most of the time. 571 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: We talk about how much we miss each other, the 572 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: plans we had, and me convincing him that he's my 573 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: soulmate and that, regardless of whatever happened with Andy, I 574 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: know we would have ended up together. Then there's moments 575 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: where he calls in the middle of the night, having 576 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 3: obviously been crying, asking questions like what did he have 577 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 3: that I didn't? Do you love him? Was he better 578 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 3: in bed? Was he better looking than me? Do you 579 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 3: still think he's better than me? What does more exciting mean? 580 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 3: Do you wish he gave you another chance? He says 581 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: he wants to be with me desperately, but when he 582 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 3: thinks about me, but it's here into his mind that 583 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 3: I was always his first choice, he will always have 584 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: been my second. It hurts him that we had feelings 585 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: for each other all the way through high school, but 586 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: the moment I met Andy, none of that meant anything anymore, 587 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: which must have meant I thought Andy was worth my time, 588 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: and he was. It breaks my heart to hear him 589 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 3: holding back his tears and trying to cry silently, but 590 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: I swear I'll do anything to say a relationship, and 591 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: that part of that means not hiding anything from him. 592 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: I begged him to reconsider going to therapy, but he 593 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: absolutely won't Bunch. Some of our mutual friends are saying 594 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 3: that they're not sure if he'll recover from this, but 595 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: I don't care. He hasn't told me to stop trying, 596 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: so I'm not going to. I wish to God that 597 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 3: I could go back and change the past, because I 598 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: love him more than anything, including myself. It feels like 599 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: I'm in some sort of surreal nightmare. Less than a 600 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: month ago, we were lying in bed fighting over which 601 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 3: one of us got to name our kids, and now 602 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 3: a similarly insignificant mistake that I made seven years ago 603 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: might wipe away the beautiful future I want with Ryan. 604 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: All I can do right now is be there and 605 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: hope he can give me another chance. But I don't 606 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 3: know what he's thinking. I know this isn't a common 607 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 3: relationship problem, but if anyone has anything they can give me, 608 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: whether it's advice or reassurance that things are going to 609 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 3: work out, please please tell me. 610 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: Edit. 611 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: He called me an hour ago, and some of this, 612 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: Frants found this Reddit post and showed it to him, 613 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: so he's called angry, asking why I would tell strangers 614 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 3: about overpersonal problems. Now is he supposed to face his 615 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: friends and family now after they all know that the 616 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: only reason I'm with him is because Andy broke up 617 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,239 Speaker 3: with me. After reading the comments, he's realized that it 618 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 3: wasn't right for him to keep me in the dark 619 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: for so long without making a decision. He decided that 620 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: we should go our separate ways so that I can 621 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 3: decide whether it's it's really him that I want to 622 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 3: be with and that he wasn't just the convenient choice 623 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 3: For now. I can't describe how I'm feeling. It's like 624 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 3: I'm so tired. I just want to go to sleep forever. 625 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: I know some of you have the impression that he's 626 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: a horrible man. This was a small fragment of a relationship, 627 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 3: and it doesn't reflect who he is as an individual. 628 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: In the slightest, He's the guy who spent days learning 629 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 3: about my major on top of his own studies so 630 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: he could help me study for exams and proofread my coursework. 631 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 3: He spent thousands of his own hard earned money to 632 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: give my parents their dream vacation to Australia, and it's 633 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: just that I say I paid for it because they 634 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 3: feel bad for taking money from him. When my ex 635 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: threatened to leaknudos that I'd send him when we were together, 636 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: I was terrified that he would leave. He took me 637 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 3: out of my favorite restaurant and said that there was 638 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 3: nothing anyone could do or say that would ever affect 639 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: how much he loves me, and that he asked to 640 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: marry him so I'd never have to worry about him 641 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: leaving ever again. My fiance is the best man I've 642 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: ever known, and the assumption that everyone has made from 643 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: hearing about how such a small part of our lives 644 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: is just disgusting. And I didn't come here for people 645 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: to convince me that he's immature, insecure or any of that. 646 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: I should have known better than to post here. But 647 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: I can hope for now he sees this, and we 648 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: got a little note to the fiance. But I think 649 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 3: you should save herself right now. I don't know. I 650 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 3: don't know. I get that, like all the other parts 651 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: of your relationship, probably be best, but this is kind 652 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 3: of concerning. 653 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 5: I think it can be concerning, but I don't think 654 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 5: it's breakup worthy. 655 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 3: He's not breakup worthy. 656 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 5: No, yeah, I don't think it's which I think all 657 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 5: the commentaris are probably suggesting. 658 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 3: It would be for Opie's sake. 659 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 5: Well yeah, but but I don't think that it needs 660 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 5: to go that far at all. I think I think 661 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 5: in seven years, you know, you didn't have problems, right, 662 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 5: and I think there will. Probably it makes sense that 663 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 5: there would be times where someone is feeling really insecure. Yeah, 664 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 5: you know, that just happens. That's he's so human, you know, 665 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 5: And especially like after a long relationship like that, Like 666 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes normal for you 667 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: to like not have to say all of these reassurances 668 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 5: all the time, because like you know, you know, like 669 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 5: you're getting married, you know what I mean, So like 670 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 5: maybe you don't say it and verbalize it as much, 671 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 5: and maybe that's getting to him at a certain point 672 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 5: and then he just needs it a little more. I 673 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 5: think that's totally fine, And I think this is just 674 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 5: one of those moments it just kind of dipped a 675 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 5: little bit. But I don't think this is breakup worthy 676 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 5: at all. 677 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely not do my fiance. I don't know what I 678 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: can say to make this better, and I don't know 679 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: if you'll be able to heal from this. What I 680 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: can say, though, that you were wrong in thinking that 681 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: I chose you out of convenience. I chose you because 682 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: you were the most thoughtful, handsome, intelligent, and charming man 683 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 3: I've ever known. Every single moment that we had together 684 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: for the last seven years, every kiss that we shared, 685 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 3: every bagel that we split, and every I love you 686 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: that I've said was meant for you and was an 687 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 3: affirmation that you are and always will be my first choice. Oh, 688 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: I don't believe that you want to cut our lives 689 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: together short. I think you were trying to heal from 690 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: the consequence of a mistake that I made, and then 691 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: I advertally set a fire underneath you by forcing you 692 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: to come to a decision by making this post. Take 693 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: as long as you need to do whatever it is 694 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: that you need to do to hit ill from this, 695 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 3: and I'll be there a waiting for you when you're 696 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 3: ready to talk. If you decide that it is something 697 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: that we cannot overcome, I would accept your decision, but 698 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: I know we are stronger than this. I love you 699 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 3: so much. We got a second at it. I know 700 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 3: this is starting to get really long, but he had 701 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: my open letter and got in contact with me to 702 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 3: say that he's not promising anything except that he'll listen. 703 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: He still refused to see a therapist because he doesn't 704 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: view our relationship as strong that there's anything to salvage 705 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 3: right now. However, some people here have expressed that they 706 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: wish they could give him advice directly, and that I've 707 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: convinced him to talk to others who have experienced this 708 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: and healed from it. Update two. Before I get into 709 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 3: the update, I want to say that I asked my 710 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: ex fiance before posting this, and he said it's fine 711 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: as long as I don't give away any details that 712 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: could reveal us to more of our family and friends. 713 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: Ex fiance, I've always been the type of person who 714 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 3: values other people's input when it comes to making good decisions, 715 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: and he knows that a lot has happened since the 716 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 3: last update. After we spoke, he went completely quiet for 717 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: around two weeks for time to thinking was almost unbearable, 718 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 3: but he promised that as soon as he had an 719 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: answer for me, he would contact me. I wasn't allowed 720 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: to come to his hotel to drop off food, try 721 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 3: to see him, or any sort of contact. When he 722 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: finally called, the first thing that he established was that 723 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: our relationship was over. 724 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 5: Ah Man. 725 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: However, despite our relationship ending, he still wants to be 726 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: with me. I still want to be with him. We 727 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: can restart our relationship completely from the beginning, with the 728 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: board wipe clean. In his own words, while you look 729 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: back at our relationship and see something wonderful, I look 730 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 3: back at it and discuss because you lied bi omission 731 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: every single day. Initially, I was ready to agree on 732 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: the spot, but he insisted that I take a week 733 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 3: to decide whether I want this. His logic, that is, 734 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: if I choose to restart our relationship from the beginning, 735 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 3: he would be my first choice. Later in the week, 736 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: it began to settle what this would mean. I would 737 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: go from fiance back to girlfriend. I don't know when 738 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: he is going to propose again. I don't want children 739 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: until we are married, so I don't know how long 740 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: that is going to be. In short, it would completely 741 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: throw off the life plans we had for a little 742 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: bit more time. He doesn't want to resent me in 743 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: the future, so we've agreed to give me as much 744 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 3: time as I needed to come to the decision. This 745 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: is a better outcome than I expected, and maybe better 746 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: than I deserve. But I would be lying if I 747 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 3: said I don't wish things could go back normal. I've 748 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 3: decided that I'm going to agree to starting over. It 749 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: is really hurts that the past seven years doesn't mean 750 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: anything anymore. Not long ago, we decided to celebrate our 751 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 3: seventh anniversary. But this time next year we'll be celebrating 752 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: our first anniversary. And then people will be like, oh, 753 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: we've been together for a year, And then you have 754 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: to explain to everyone of the comments want this is yeah. 755 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: Edit. 756 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: He read the post and wanted to address some of 757 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 3: the comments. We do restart a relationship. He won't hold 758 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: anything over my head. 759 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: Oh how great. 760 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: It'll be exactly as he said, and our relationship would 761 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 3: start over completely. He is so confident of this that 762 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: he insists I leave him if he ever splits up, 763 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: brings it up if we argue. Some people said that 764 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: being first is an arbitrary construct that doesn't mean anything. 765 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 3: Marriage is a construct, monogamy is a construct. Something Being 766 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 3: a construct doesn't make it any less real or capable 767 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 3: of inflecting pain. A reminder that this isn't about me 768 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: dating people before him. He doesn't care about that. He 769 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 3: cares that I knew him for years, and that we 770 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 3: had a bond in high school, and that we've waited 771 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 3: when we were in college so we could officially be 772 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 3: a couple. But I picked someone else I barely knew. 773 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: It's come up very often that the length of our 774 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 3: relationship should have some influence over his decisions. He says 775 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 3: it does because it makes it even worse. I never 776 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 3: told him about what happened during those six months while 777 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 3: we were together. On top of that, I wasn't the 778 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: one to tell him. In the end, we know everything 779 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 3: about each other, so he can only assume that I 780 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 3: constantly hid it from him, and we'll never hide that. 781 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 3: We go live every weekd at three PMPSD. Where do 782 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: we go Live? 783 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 5: Andjreie We go live on Facebook, on YouTube, on TikTok, 784 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 5: on Twitch. All you have to do is just tap 785 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 5: the profile. 786 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: Tubity tap tap three PMPSD. I'm not insecure, fragile, or rational. 787 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 3: The fact is that our old relationship is now ruined 788 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 3: in my eyes, silly. It's ruined because she took away 789 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: my ability to make an informed decision set years ago. 790 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 3: If I had known the circumstances of her return, I'm 791 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: not afraid to say that I would have told her 792 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 3: to go f herself. Now I'm giving her the option 793 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 3: to restart our relationship with me knowing all the facts. 794 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 3: This time will be equals. And that's the end of that. 795 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 5: Dude, I hated that end. 796 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be Oh my. 797 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 3: God, he's so emotionally exhausting, and you guys are gonna 798 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: have to divorce. This is yeah, this is crazy. 799 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 5: If you if you're literally saying that, like you, if 800 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 5: you're telling your partner that, like, oh, back then, I 801 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 5: would have told you to f off and it was 802 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 5: not a big deal at all. That's the end of 803 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 5: that story and the end of the episode. 804 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 3: If you love us, make sure to subscribe. 805 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: We love you and see it. 806 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 4: Omar, Hey, Sam, we're gonna get back to the stories. 807 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: But here's three minutes of bads from our sponsors. 808 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: My own family ruined my wedding because they wouldn't stop 809 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: fighting each other. 810 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 4: We know how to settle this. Settle this and smash this. 811 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 2: Is not asking for advice or if I'm the a 812 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: whole I know I'm not, and we didn't deserve our 813 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: day that we spent thousands of dollars to create, to 814 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 2: be ruined by a bunch of wasted as My husband 815 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: male twenty six and I female twenty six got married 816 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two after meeting and creating a life 817 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: together since twenty fifteen. 818 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: If you do some quick math, we were seventeen years old. 819 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from user dems the breaks 820 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: on the r slash okay storytime subredit. Anyway, our wedding 821 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 2: day was disappointing and reflective of a possible World War three. 822 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: Firstly, it rained the entire day. 823 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 2: We were supposed to get married outside in front of 824 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: this gorgeous river backdrop, but instead the venue created an 825 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: undercover area so everyone could be dry for the ceremony. Luckily, 826 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: our venue was crafty in their wet option. Top tip, 827 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 2: have a well crafted wet option haha. Honestly, the rain 828 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 2: was the least of our worries by the time we 829 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 2: got to the end of the night. But first, let 830 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 2: me backtrack to just list a few things that also 831 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: happened alongside WW three and the rain. 832 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 4: We're calling it. It's that bad. We're calling it that catastrophe. 833 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 2: Maybe this is just a misspelling of doublee. I'd spent 834 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 2: the previous week with my bridesmaid and her now ex partner, 835 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: who were fighting the entire time, meaning the week leading 836 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: to my wedding was full of anxiety for me. My 837 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 2: second cousin, who was the MC for the wedding, ran 838 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 2: over my great aunt's foot with her car. 839 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 4: Twice once but twice. 840 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 2: My Aunt the Trooper still turned up in her moon 841 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 2: boot with a few tears and lots of pain. My 842 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 2: cousin's partner had a car accident on the way to 843 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: the wedding. He's fine, he was driven into a when 844 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: reversing out of their own driveway, But I guess the 845 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 2: pull of free food and booze stops no one. Four 846 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 2: of our guests couldn't make it because it was currently 847 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 2: flooding all over the countryside of Australia. Sorry should have 848 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 2: mentioned where Ozzie. During the reception, a girlfriend of middle 849 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 2: cousin he will be introduced later, who I didn't even 850 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 2: want to invite but it was easier to just do 851 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: so to avoid drama, decided to get hoisted and throw 852 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 2: food at her boyfriend. They have since broken up, hence 853 00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: I didn't want her at the wedding. 854 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: Two of my. 855 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: Guests had to sit at the end of my husband's 856 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: family table and were treated like crap by a lot 857 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: of them. 858 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 1: There seemed to be a fight over steak. 859 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 2: The best man was being gross and wouldn't leave my 860 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 2: cousins alone. They are gorgeous, so I get it, but 861 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 2: it was like, really gross how he wouldn't take no 862 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 2: as a full sentence. I had to have words with him, 863 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 2: but karma came for him as he barfed in his 864 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 2: own underwear, Thanks Universe. Finally, back to the husband's lovely 865 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 2: extended family, they were reportedly rude to the serving staff, 866 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 2: literally throwing trash on the ground in front of them 867 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 2: to pick up. You're kicked out of my event at 868 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: that point. If I see you do that, I don't 869 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 2: care who you are. I'm kicking you out. I don't 870 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 2: be rude to servers because that now reflects on me 871 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 2: because you're at my event. I wouldn't stand for that. 872 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 2: If I'm in charge, You're gone. If I see you 873 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 2: do that, this is a mess, and so is the wedding. 874 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 4: Hope. 875 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: He says like, are you okay? 876 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 2: Do you want to lift back to your tiny town 877 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,720 Speaker 2: where you think you matter a lot more than you do. Okay, 878 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: that was mean, but I have reason to be pissed 879 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: at them. Moving on, So, my husband's oldest cousin, who 880 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 2: is a few years older than us. He's the eldest 881 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: of five boys and a father of two kids, decided 882 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: red wine was the drink of choice for the night. 883 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: Weird choice, but okay, I digress. He got wasted, and 884 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 2: we know how this goes. He starts annoying everyone and 885 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 2: being downright rude to a lot of my guests, which 886 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: I found out later. At some stage, he's speaking to 887 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: my uncle and giving my aunt the cold shoulder. My aunt, 888 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 2: being sober and sensible, tried to redirect the cousin. However, 889 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 2: he takes this very badly. The next thing I know, 890 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 2: my cousin is telling me about how my aunt was 891 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 2: being rude and how he doesn't understand why she's so 892 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 2: mad at him. He starts crying, etc. I'm just trying 893 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: to get him to settle by saying, she just acts 894 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: like that, it's not you just go have a dance. 895 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 2: Actually though she isn't like that, but he doesn't know 896 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: her from a bar of soap. So you know how 897 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: I mentioned five brothers. Yeah, this is where that comes in. 898 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 2: Cousin tells his brothers what's happened. One of the middle 899 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: ones decides to get all amped up, because why not 900 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: just get mad for no reason. I came out of 901 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 2: the venue where my husband and I have been crying 902 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: our eyes out because people are arguing and it was 903 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 2: horrible on our special day. 904 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: Little did we know it would get worse. 905 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 4: I knew it was gonna get it was so much worse. 906 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 4: This is just the tip of the iceberg. 907 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: To save time, I'll quick fire what happened. Cousin and 908 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 2: middle cousin are on one side of the walkway, My sibling, 909 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 2: their partner, and two of my aunt's daughters are on 910 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: the other side. They are spitting hectic crap at each other. 911 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 2: My family is literally trying to leave also its raining, 912 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 2: and are being hounded by these men they've never met. 913 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 2: Cousin is trying to shake my aunt's hand to say sorry, 914 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 2: but won't stop going on and on with bs. My 915 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 2: family escapes to their cars. Some have anxiety attacks as 916 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 2: they're all female and being screamed at by a bunch 917 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 2: of males they don't know, many of whom are being 918 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 2: at Gratsev. They stay in the cars awaiting taxis to come. 919 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 2: And side note, we were about twenty minutes from the 920 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 2: nearest sign of civilization and no one could drive. This 921 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 2: will be important cousin and middle cousin keep up the fight. Now, 922 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 2: fighting between the five boys and their dad commences as 923 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 2: half of them know the troublemakers are being ridiculous. Oh 924 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 2: and my mother in law and cousin's wife almost have 925 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: a physical altercation as cousin's wife decided that he was 926 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: somehow in the right and my mother in law was 927 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 2: in protective mom mode considering she just had to console 928 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 2: her son and daughter in law on their wedding day 929 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 2: because of her side of the family's crap. Husband and 930 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 2: I get in the first tax that turns up as 931 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 2: we are done with it all. At this point, I 932 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 2: leave my parents and one of my bride'smaids there as 933 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 2: they are just hanging out in the smoker's area. Anyway, 934 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 2: this sounds like the nightmare wedding from Hell. 935 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 4: This literally does sound like a WWE event. It's like 936 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 4: and now we have the other cousins, Yeah, fighting with 937 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 4: these other cousins and kill the brothers. The brothers go. 938 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 1: And the cage begins to descend from the. 939 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 4: Roof of the church and que the wild animals. 940 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 2: Now Hobby and I get back to the hotel, I 941 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 2: get out of my soaked dress and throw it in 942 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 2: the bath top. Tip if it rains and your dresses soaked. 943 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 2: Bathtubs are a great storage place. I spend hours on 944 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: my phone trying to get a taxi or uber to 945 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 2: the venue to pick up my parents and bride'smaid, as 946 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 2: I know they're all country folk and don't really know 947 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 2: how this works. But the reason taxis were so difficult 948 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 2: is because the five boy cousins and their father get 949 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 2: into a physical altercation between them. Of course, one of 950 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 2: them hits another in the head while a taxi is 951 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 2: driving down the road, so the venue was blacklisted. No 952 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: taxis were allowed to go there. In this part of 953 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 2: the world. Ubers are hard to get, but I eventually 954 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 2: got one for my parents and bride'smaid to get them home. Well. 955 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: The next day, I'm having to apologize to my family 956 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 2: as I feel terrible that they were all legitimately threatened 957 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 2: with violence. 958 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: They are all understanding and telling me. 959 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: That it wasn't on me, but to this day, I 960 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 2: still feel so bad about it all. 961 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: Hubby and I go to the resort his family are at. 962 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: His parents apologize to us and ask us to pass 963 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 2: that to my family, but we have not heard a 964 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 2: thing since that night from the cousins who did these deeds. 965 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: He actually blocked all of us on Facebook. 966 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 2: His parents never apologized, like my mother in law's sister, 967 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 2: never came over to the next villa and said, hey, sis, 968 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 2: that was messed up and I'm sorry. Nothing we heard 969 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 2: from middle cousin via a message on Facebook, but nothing more. 970 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 2: At this point in twenty twenty four, my mother in 971 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 2: law's entire family has imploded. 972 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: I feel for her and her kids. I really do. 973 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 2: Late last year, we had a family event for a 974 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 2: mutual cousin's eighteenth mother in law's brother's kids, and I 975 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 2: was sitting with my mother in law's sister, sister's husband, 976 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 2: and middle cousin he's back alongside grandmother. They started talking 977 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 2: crap about my mother in law. Now, to premise, I 978 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 2: have built a good relationship with my in laws in 979 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 2: the last few. 980 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: Years, so I am protective. 981 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 2: I decided this absolutely wasn't happening, so I had my say. 982 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 2: I have only one thing to say, which is that 983 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 2: y'all should join us every weekday at three pm PST 984 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 2: when we go live on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, and Twitch. 985 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: All you gotta do is tap our profile on any 986 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 2: one of those platforms. In your live I would say, 987 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 2: you can just like, never interact with these cousins ever 988 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: again for the rest of your life. It's very plain 989 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 2: and simple. I'm sorry that your wedding happened, but again, 990 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's not on you, 991 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 2: it's on them, and they kind of ruin your parade 992 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 2: and that sucks. They are one hundred percent in the wrong. 993 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 2: You had to leave your own wedding early because people 994 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 2: were literally trying to throw down like it like it 995 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 2: was a cage match. 996 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 4: Surely is, dude, like they're gonna they were fighting for 997 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 4: the cake. 998 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 2: I think it's time to just move on and enjoy 999 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 2: your beautiful marriage with. 1000 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 4: Your husband and with the select few members that you 1001 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 4: want to be with. 1002 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 2: So I pointed right in the middle of my cousin's 1003 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 2: face after he disrespected my mother in law and said, 1004 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 2: you try having your family ruin your effing wedding and 1005 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 2: see how you feel. I wish I had said more, 1006 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 2: but I'm not good with this crap. Collectively, as a family, 1007 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 2: we got up and left after my father in law 1008 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 2: said very assertive that we ain't it sis. Lol, So 1009 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 2: that's not what he said, but you get the idea. 1010 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 2: So after that it was done for good. I have 1011 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 2: left out names. But if you're reading this or listening 1012 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 2: to it and know it's about you, good thanks for nothing. 1013 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 2: Maybe I should send you a bill. And that is 1014 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 2: the end of that story. And yeah, just leave those 1015 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 2: people in the past us. 1016 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 4: Don't waste your brustle them, don't waste your energy. You 1017 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 4: don't need toxic people to be in your life. 1018 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 2: Indeed, be happy, Indeed, enjoy your new husband and perhaps 1019 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 2: maybe do a little fun get together with some friends 1020 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 2: who won't start trying to reenact to wwe match at 1021 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 2: your wedding. 1022 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 4: I think that's the best yess of action, indeed. 1023 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story. So if 1024 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 2: you love us, make sure you subscribe. We love you 1025 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 2: and see you tomorrow. 1026 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 4: I've removed my sister in law from my wedding party 1027 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 4: because she never cared about it. 1028 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: You never cared in the first place. 1029 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 4: I Female, twenty one, and my husband, Mail, twenty two, 1030 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 4: got married when I was nineteen. For some background, we 1031 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 4: had known each other for nine years at that point 1032 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 4: and dated for three. By the way, this comes from 1033 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 4: user random writer zero on the Arsala Showkay Storytime. Cebret So, 1034 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 4: I wanted a really chill wedding. My family doesn't have 1035 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 4: a ton of money, so we kept the wedding on 1036 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 4: a tight budget, which I was completely fine with. We 1037 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 4: got the cheapest venue we could find, the cheapest catering, 1038 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 4: and so on. I had six bridesmaids in my wedding party, 1039 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 4: my two sisters, two cousins, my sister in law, and 1040 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 4: a friend. Sister in law isn't technically my husband's sister, however, 1041 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 4: she was raised by my husband's dad but never actually 1042 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 4: was adopted. He considers her his sister. It was really 1043 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 4: important to my husband that she be in the wedding. 1044 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 4: I was super excited to include her and assume she 1045 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 4: would be very happy as well. She's over a decade 1046 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 4: older than the both of us and is married and 1047 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 4: has children, but this would be the first wedding she 1048 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 4: would have been in. When we asked her to be 1049 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 4: in the wedding. She said yes, of course, and seemed excited. 1050 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 4: I was soon to find out I was wrong. First, 1051 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 4: I selected bridesmaid dresses that were thirty dollars each. They 1052 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 4: were dresses that could be styled twenty different ways, and 1053 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 4: I had two shades of pink. Three bridesmaids would be 1054 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 4: in one shade and the other three in another. Now, 1055 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 4: not that it matters, but sister in law is pretty 1056 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 4: well off financially, so a thirty dollars dress is nothing. 1057 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 4: I kept it very cheap because I couldn't afford to 1058 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 4: buy all the dresses and would never ask my loved 1059 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 4: ones to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a 1060 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 4: dress for one specific day. Everyone bought the dresses right 1061 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 4: away six months before the wedding, except for sister in law. 1062 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 4: I asked them all the same pictures of the dresses, 1063 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 4: and they did and again except for sister in law. 1064 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,839 Speaker 4: After about a month, I texted sister in law asked 1065 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 4: if she had bought the dress. She said she didn't 1066 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 4: know when she was supposed to order it. I sent 1067 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 4: the link again and told her it takes about a 1068 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 4: month for the dress to arrive, so please order as 1069 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 4: soon as possible. We're now four months away from the wedding. 1070 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 4: I sent out invitations to my bridal shower that was 1071 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 4: in four weeks. Everyone RSVP'd and I was so excited 1072 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 4: to see them all. The day of sister in law 1073 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 4: texted and said she couldn't make it due to one 1074 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 4: of her kids being sick. This made perfect sense to 1075 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 4: me and I had no problem with it at all. 1076 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 4: I'm not sure why her husband couldn't stay at home, 1077 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 4: but that wasn't my problem. After the bridal shower, we 1078 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 4: sent out invites for the bachelorette party, which was really 1079 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 4: just a chill dinner with all my close friends and bridesmaids. 1080 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 4: These invites were sent a month before the event. Sister 1081 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 4: in law RSVP just like everyone else. Then the day 1082 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 4: up comes, she texted me and said she had to work. 1083 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 4: I found this odd since her job isn't one that 1084 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 4: is on call, but I said no worries and I 1085 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 4: would see her at the rehearsal. Then the rehearsal day 1086 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 4: rolls around. Can we make a guess what's gonna happen? 1087 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: I would bet every last dollar to my name. 1088 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 4: She's not ready for is it third times the charm 1089 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 4: do you think it's there? 1090 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: Maybe third time she's unprepared, she's gonna go. I thought 1091 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: I could just wear there. 1092 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 4: Maybe she doesn't have her dress yet either. 1093 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: Oh, we know that. 1094 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 4: Then the rehearsal day rolls around the day before my wedding. 1095 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 4: Everyone is at the venue helping set up and decorate. 1096 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 4: I receive a text from sister in law. She says 1097 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 4: she is sick and won't be able to make it 1098 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 4: to the rehearsal and possibly the wedding. 1099 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: Dude, at this point, just. 1100 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 2: Say you don't want to just be honest. It's like 1101 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 2: you're not fooling anyone. At this point, I. 1102 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 4: Ask her if I need to find a replacement bridesmaid, 1103 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 4: as I have a friend who had gotten very close 1104 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 4: to over the wedding planning time. She tells me yes, 1105 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 4: and that she doesn't think it would be wise for 1106 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 4: her to be in the wedding and risk getting me 1107 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 4: or anyone else sick. I agreed and apologize. You had 1108 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 4: nothing to apologize for. I mean, maybe you're like, oh, 1109 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, you're sick, and that sucks. 1110 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 2: We have the additional insight that this person just like 1111 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 2: didn't want to have anything to do with the wedding anyway. 1112 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: So we at this point know that this. 1113 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 2: Is probably BS, but in the moment, sure, it's like there's. 1114 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 4: It could be the benefit of the doubt. Maybe again, 1115 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 4: it just crap happens. Crap happens, and ironically it's just 1116 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 4: on very specific days for this wedding. 1117 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 3: Well, I mean a lot of this, this story has 1118 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 3: taken place over months. 1119 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. I then asked my friend's mom, who was helping decorate, 1120 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 4: if her daughter would be my bridesmaid. She was so 1121 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 4: ecstatic and immediately left to buy her daughter's shoes for 1122 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 4: the wedding and pick her up from the track. I 1123 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 4: then see my mother in law on the phone. I've 1124 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 4: been talking to my husband the whole time about what 1125 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,959 Speaker 4: was going on, so he I knew that the sister 1126 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 4: in law had told me to find a replacement and 1127 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 4: wouldn't be in the wedding. As soon as mother in 1128 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 4: law gets off the phone, I get a text from 1129 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 4: sister in law saying, never mind, she wants to be 1130 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 4: in the wedding. You are outrageously Oh yeah, you're annoying, annoying, annoying, annoying. Now, 1131 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 4: first of all, you're either sick, it can't be in 1132 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 4: the wedding, and I sure as heck don't want to 1133 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,280 Speaker 4: be sick. Or second, you're lying. Now I'm panicking because 1134 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 4: I have to either tell my friend never mind and 1135 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 4: remove her from the wedding party or tell my sister 1136 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 4: in law she can't be in the wedding. My husband 1137 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 4: starts telling me that I need to kick my friend 1138 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 4: back out and let sister in law be the bridesmaid. 1139 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 4: Yeah right, I don't think it works like that. She 1140 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 4: said no, and we agreed that it was okay. This 1141 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 4: didn't make any sense to me, though, as she was 1142 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,280 Speaker 4: supposedly too sick to even come to the wedding. Thirty 1143 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 4: minutes ago, my husband and I ended up getting into 1144 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 4: an argument and staying behind at the venue. Everyone had 1145 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 4: left to get lunch while we stayed back and talk 1146 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 4: about what to do. After discussing the fact that she 1147 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 4: literally told me to find someone else and how wrong 1148 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 4: it would be to then kick my friend back out, 1149 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 4: we both finally agreed to tell sister in law we 1150 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 4: had already replaced her, of course in a much nicer way. 1151 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 4: That's fine. I hope she's understanding. 1152 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 2: It's it's perfectly fine. I don't know how the husband 1153 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 2: didn't go. I mean, I know it's your sister, but like, dude, 1154 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 2: like she she lied, she's being a liar. 1155 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 4: She also she also this was communicated. Hey, she could 1156 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 4: come to the wedding, but she can't be a bridesbad anymore. 1157 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,760 Speaker 4: That sucks. My husband and I set out the venue 1158 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 4: for two hours, crying and trying to figure out what 1159 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 4: to do because we didn't want to hurt anyone. Sister 1160 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 4: in law was super understanding, though, and said she would 1161 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 4: drop the dress off for the other bridesmaid. This is 1162 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 4: very sweet. Okay. Everything seemed okay until sister in law 1163 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 4: texted again saying she never opened her dress and just 1164 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 4: now realized she ordered the wrong one. 1165 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 2: Ah did we have that one on the bingo car? 1166 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 4: And I don't we did? 1167 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I had no dress at all. 1168 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 4: I had no dress either, but I didn't even have 1169 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 4: an surprise. I'm shocked at this. 1170 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: Point, surprise surprise. 1171 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 4: I was absolutely ticked it was the wrong color and style. 1172 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 4: I went back to the link I had sent her 1173 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 4: to make sure it was correct, and guess what it was. 1174 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 4: I had sent pictures of the dress, the description of 1175 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 4: the dress, and the correct link to the dress, and 1176 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 4: somehow she ordered a completely different one. 1177 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: So now it's did she do that on purpose? 1178 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 2: Did she purposefully order a different dress because she didn't 1179 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 2: like the bridesmaid dress? 1180 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't care. It's my wedding. I 1181 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 4: just don't care. I have no energy to give to 1182 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 4: you whatever. Thankfully, I had planned to have the girls 1183 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 4: in different styles, so we made it work, and since 1184 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,240 Speaker 4: the dress was a different shade of pink, it looked 1185 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 4: like I chose three shades. It was still absolutely infuriating, however, 1186 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 4: because it showed that she never cared about being a 1187 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 4: part of our wedding from the get go. She came 1188 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 4: to the wedding, and I later found out she was 1189 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 4: never sick. She was in a fight with her husband 1190 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 4: and didn't feel like cubbing. So I think I made 1191 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 4: the right choice by having my friend by my side 1192 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 4: rather than someone who couldn't even be bothered to get 1193 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 4: the correct thirty dollars dress or show up to anything 1194 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 4: leading up to the wedding. But you know what you 1195 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 4: can lead up to every weekday three pm on YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, 1196 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 4: TikTok every weekday. Just chap that profile. 1197 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 2: That's all it takes is a couple of taps. We 1198 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 2: might even be live right now and you can go 1199 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 2: check that. But if you do that right now, you're story. 1200 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 4: We're gonna find out this'n be a crazy wedding and 1201 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 4: we don't care for sister in law. 1202 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 2: I think this is all a perfect like her having 1203 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 2: never ordered the right dress and and the lying and everything, 1204 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 2: it's all it just shows. 1205 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 1: It's like she didn't even need to be there. 1206 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,800 Speaker 2: No, she didn't ever really care about celebrating O P 1207 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 2: and her brother getting married. She was just like, I 1208 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 2: guess this would be a fun thing for me. 1209 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 4: I've never been a part of a wedding. I wonder why, Yeah, 1210 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 4: I wonder why you've never been a part of a wedding. 1211 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 1: It certainly shows, but like, how can you out again? 1212 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 4: I would again selfish? Your selfish? 1213 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 2: After you you bold face lie about being sick the 1214 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 2: day before and the day of the wedding and the 1215 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,879 Speaker 2: and you try to flip it back around a half 1216 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 2: hour later and go, actually I can go. 1217 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: I'm not letting you go. You're now uninvited. 1218 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 4: I was like, are you sick or oh you like 1219 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 4: to me, oh, so you're a liar well, because then 1220 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 4: it immediate and a liar at my wedding. 1221 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 2: It brings into question all of the other lies that 1222 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 2: she told about her kid being sick and about not 1223 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 2: being able to make it. 1224 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, any other time. 1225 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, let us know in the comments. Would you still 1226 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 4: invite her to the wedding? Yeah? Or you still have 1227 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 4: her come to the wedding because at this point, I'm like, 1228 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 4: you're like the boy you cried wolf. I don't care 1229 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 4: for you, and either you're lying and I don't want 1230 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 4: you in my wedding or at all in the vicinity 1231 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 4: of me because I'm infuriated with you, or you're sick, 1232 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 4: which again, second thing, I don't want you in my 1233 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 4: wedding because you're gonna get everyone else sick. Perfect. Easy, 1234 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,720 Speaker 4: But let's finish up the store. All this to say, brides, 1235 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 4: don't let people guilt you into having people you don't 1236 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 4: want in or at your wedding. Make sure you are 1237 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 4: surrounded by people who actually love and care about you. Yes, 1238 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 4: our wedding day ended up being absolutely perfect, and it's 1239 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 4: my favorite memory to look back right now. Yes, the 1240 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 4: day before, however, I would like to leave in the past. 1241 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 4: Somehow we made it through the entire wedding process with 1242 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 4: almost no drama or stress until the day before. It 1243 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 4: seems like there was always someone determined to make your 1244 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 4: wedding about them. 1245 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 1: Oh boy, isn't that the truth? 1246 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 4: Ain't that the way we. 1247 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 2: Always seem to be reading wedding stories of people thinking 1248 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 2: it's their day. 1249 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 4: Guess what, it's it's not your day, it's their wedding, 1250 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 4: their rules. And guess what, You're not the only one 1251 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 4: experiencing this, So. 1252 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not alone. 1253 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 4: I'm happy for op getting the wedding that she so deserved. 1254 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely amazing. 1255 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 2: I'm very glad that that is where the drama kind 1256 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 2: of stopped. 1257 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 4: Let us know the comments if you would still let 1258 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 4: her come at least not be in the wedding, of course, 1259 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 4: but let her come to the wedding, that's another thing. 1260 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 4: But let us know the comments. But again, that's the 1261 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 4: end of that story. 1262 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,320 Speaker 1: And we've got another one coming right up, So stick around. 1263 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 4: Hey, it's John here, og host of the show. We're 1264 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,760 Speaker 4: gonna get back to these juicy stories. 1265 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: But here's a quick three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 1266 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 6: My mother forbid me from picking a venue for my 1267 00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 6: own wedding. 1268 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 4: Just pick up Okay, no, I don't know, pick up bero. 1269 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 4: Tosser in, yeah, tosser in there, She'll go there. 1270 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 6: My fiance twenty two mail proposed to me in May 1271 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 6: this year. It was gorgeous. We plan to get married 1272 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 6: next year, sometime around September October. We both have always 1273 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 6: wanted a fall wedding, so we are very excited. My mother, however, 1274 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 6: does not seem to be. By the way, this comes 1275 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 6: from Caz nineteen sixty seven on the Okay Storytime subbured it. 1276 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 6: So I never imagined my mother would do this. I've 1277 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 6: seen so many videos and I've always been like, thank God, 1278 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 6: my fiance's mother is sane, until recently when I realized 1279 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 6: that my fiance is the one with the crazy mother 1280 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,400 Speaker 6: in law. Now, my mom isn't crazy, but she's not 1281 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 6: making wedding planning super easy. I've been looking for a 1282 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 6: venue since June of this year. We have found so 1283 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 6: many stunning locations and have toured many of them. Unfortunately, 1284 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 6: due to the economy, we have had to turn many 1285 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 6: of these locations down due to prices. This leaves us 1286 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 6: with very slim options. Now, for some background, I've always 1287 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 6: wanted to be married outside my fiance's family. It lives 1288 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 6: eight plus hours away and have a gorgeous estate where 1289 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 6: I originally wanted to have the wedding. Sadly, due to 1290 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 6: some of the elderly in my family, the drive meant 1291 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 6: that not many people would be able to make it. 1292 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 6: Because of this, I have opted to have the wedding 1293 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 6: closer to my house. My fiance was okay with this 1294 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 6: and said that his family would come no matter what. 1295 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 6: He's the oldest of the grandchildren, so they are very, 1296 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 6: very excited to watch him get married. So we found 1297 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 6: a range of venues, five of them to be exact, 1298 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 6: that fit into our budget or slightly broke it by 1299 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 6: under three thousand, and began the decision making. My mother, 1300 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 6: being the mother of the bride, wanted to help me 1301 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 6: make the decision. I love my mom, so I said yes. 1302 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 6: I gave her all of the details and even let 1303 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 6: her join me on one of the tours. What a 1304 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 6: mistake that well, oh oh, my mom has done nothing 1305 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 6: but reject every single venue I proposed. Now I may 1306 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 6: be crazy in saying this, and tell me if I am, 1307 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 6: but does a three hour drive really seem long for 1308 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 6: a wedding. I've even six hours wedding. 1309 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 4: I've driven like seven hours for a wedding. Yeah, but 1310 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 4: I got I mean, I stay for a weekend, but I. 1311 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 6: Don't even I think we stayed for I think we 1312 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 6: stayed overnight and that was it. Yeah, the people and 1313 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 6: also we went during this was in Tahoe and it 1314 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 6: was when Tahoe was on fire. Oh so, anyone who's 1315 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 6: complaining about going to your wedding is the wedding. 1316 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 4: The wedding for you was literally fire. 1317 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was no. Literally we were like there was 1318 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 6: like we might have had to be evacuated because there 1319 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 6: was so much smoke. 1320 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 4: You're like, nothing will prevail this wedding. 1321 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 6: I don't want to make this super long, but here 1322 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 6: is the list of each wedding venue I had picked 1323 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 6: out in order and the response that my mother gave 1324 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 6: me when I told her I wanted to pick it. 1325 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 6: I know that I don't state how long the drive 1326 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 6: is for my fiance's family, but they all told me 1327 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 6: how to get together this weekend, that they will come 1328 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 6: no matter where it's at, even if it's a destination wedding. 1329 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 6: So I didn't include their distances. However, about sixty percent 1330 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 6: of them will have to fly in from Texas, Vermont, Georgia, 1331 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 6: and Florida. Gorgeous venue ceremony outside, reception in an old barn, 1332 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 6: most defensive venue I found, but only a thirty minute 1333 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 6: drive for my family. My mother's response, Well, it's a 1334 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 6: bit expensive, don't you think, Plus the barn will be. 1335 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 4: Too cold for the elderly folks. 1336 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 6: It's a nice drive, though, check for other venues first 1337 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 6: understandable response. 1338 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 4: That's a reasonable response. Yeah, that wasn't anything in a pocket. 1339 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 6: Just like it's expensive. Grungey location ceremony in a bar 1340 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 6: with cement floors and reception in same location. My mother 1341 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 6: picked this one out and rejected it immediately because it's 1342 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 6: too far away. It's an hour and a half long 1343 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,920 Speaker 6: drive for my family. Stunning lake house with gorgeous views 1344 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,840 Speaker 6: and on site management for the whole wedding. Ceremony outside, 1345 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 6: reception inside, the whole inside is heated, falls within the budget, 1346 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 6: and is way cheaper than option one. Plus we get 1347 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 6: a discount for having a fall wedding. It's a two 1348 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 6: hour drive for my family. My mother's response, are you serious? 1349 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 6: Where will your family stay? You expect them to drive 1350 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 6: that far, no one will come. You better expect your 1351 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 6: guest list to fall short. It's basically a destination wedding. 1352 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 4: Girl. What what this sounds perfect? This sounds like the 1353 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 4: perfect location. 1354 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 6: Is not that far to drive for a wedding. No, 1355 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 6: I would even do that in like I would I 1356 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 6: would do that and then come back. 1357 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1358 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 6: Like I wouldn't even stay the night if I was 1359 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 6: driving that month. 1360 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 4: No, I mean maybe maybe if you have a like 1361 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 4: a long night, maybe go to a hotel. There's to 1362 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 4: be a hotel nearby. People like people. 1363 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 6: Stay in hotels and airbnb's all the time for weddings. 1364 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 4: It's not hard. This is hard. This is not hard 1365 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 4: at all. And this is not in like some rural 1366 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 4: part of town. It just seems very simple and easy. 1367 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 6: A golf course, venue, stunning rivers and lots of trees, 1368 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 6: ceremony outside, reception outside, low cost cover, tent rental, and 1369 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 6: venue rental. An hour and a half long drive for 1370 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 6: my family. My mother's response, that's still a really far drive. 1371 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 6: You're not gonna have anyone show up. Plus, there's no 1372 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 6: hotels nearby. There were a few hotels nearby, but this 1373 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 6: was more of a the RBO Airbnb location, which I 1374 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 6: explained to her the last option I have. I found 1375 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 6: this venue literally two days ago. It's stunning. It's a 1376 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 6: country club outside ceremony by the lake, all colored trees 1377 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 6: in the background, outside reception, with open bar and stone footing, 1378 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 6: no dance for needed, insanely cheap cost, literally one tenth 1379 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 6: of our budget. Catering company down the street offers food 1380 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 6: for weddings on the site also but one tenth of 1381 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 6: the budget. Speakers included on site for music, multiple stunning 1382 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 6: hotels nearby. My fiance's uncle is a member of this 1383 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 6: club and can get a discount, and my fiance's father 1384 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 6: said that if we decided yes on this location that 1385 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 6: he'd buy the liquor for the party. We also found 1386 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 6: a cake company nearby that's very cheap and the cake 1387 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 6: is so delicious. So basically we get all of that 1388 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 6: for two tenths of the entire budget, leaving all of 1389 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 6: the extra money for de court photography, DJ, the dresses 1390 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 6: and tuxes, and the honeymoon. It's a three hour drive 1391 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 6: for my family. 1392 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 4: Oh, I bet mom's gonna love that. 1393 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 5: She's gonna love it. 1394 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 6: I think she's gonna be like, Wow, my children. I 1395 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 6: want them to be happy. 1396 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 1: Three hours. 1397 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 4: That's nothing. It's nothing for family, nothing for the perfect 1398 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 4: wedding for my daughter and my son in law. 1399 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 6: But actually, she said my mother's response, it's that far. 1400 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 6: Are you serious? You thought your guest list would be 1401 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 6: short before? You really need to think about this before 1402 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 6: I'm making this decision. That's not a good idea. Where 1403 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 6: will your family stay? What happens if someone's vegetarian? Our 1404 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 6: food options here are chicken and pulled pork. What happens 1405 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 6: if your vendors don't want to drive that far? So 1406 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 6: at this point, I'm about to say screw you and 1407 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,959 Speaker 6: just pick up Venue number five and call it good. 1408 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 6: I love it so much. It's stunning and everything that 1409 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 6: I wanted. The only issue is that my mother is 1410 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,440 Speaker 6: fronting a good portion of our budget, and I was 1411 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 6: scared that by making her upset that she will pull 1412 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 6: the money. 1413 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,439 Speaker 4: Oh this makes a lot more sense now. 1414 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 6: I was like, why do we care what she thinks? 1415 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 6: But she's paying for it. However, it's one tenth of 1416 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 6: your budget, so like, maybe you could pay for it, 1417 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 6: could pay for it. We had to pull out of 1418 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 6: venue number one because they ran out of dates. For 1419 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 6: twenty twenty five, three days ago. So now we are 1420 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 6: left with only four locations. I really don't want to 1421 01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 6: lose option five because I love it, so I think 1422 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 6: I'm gonna take it red wardless. Plus I could pay 1423 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 6: for the whole wedding myself. There we go, easy, my 1424 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 6: fiance and I. I mean, if I really needed to 1425 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 6: at that point, and what I really needed you guys 1426 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 6: to do was that join us live every weekda at 1427 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 6: three pmpst on YouTube, Facebook and TikTok. 1428 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 1: Easy just tap her profile. 1429 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 4: Four taps, one, two, three fours. I did it. 1430 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 6: It might even work on the first top. There is 1431 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 6: a little bit left to the story. Any thoughts at 1432 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 6: the end of the day. 1433 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 4: I always say this about weddings, it's your wedding. It's 1434 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,479 Speaker 4: your choice, as long as you can pay it off, 1435 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 4: do whatever you want. 1436 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,920 Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, it seems like because at first it 1437 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 6: was like, oh, your mom has got to be paying 1438 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 6: for it and you could afford it or something. But 1439 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 6: it seems like you said you could afford it. It's 1440 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 6: one tenth of your budget, which means that you're going 1441 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 6: to be saving a lot anyway. 1442 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 4: You're getting the liquor for free. 1443 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're getting like cheap cake. 1444 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 4: You're getting everything's right there. It sounds like you literally 1445 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 4: listed everything. You're like glittering in the eye. You're like, 1446 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 4: this is perfect, this is business what you want. It's 1447 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 4: just the distance. Don't let the distance. Hey, you know what, 1448 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 4: you can go the distance go. 1449 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 6: The distance in three hours is not that far. I 1450 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 6: just thought i'd have this issue, and I figured i'd share. 1451 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 6: When my fiance's family found out what was causing the 1452 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 6: delay and choosing a venue, they were appalled, how embarrassing 1453 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 6: to be like, sorry, it's my. 1454 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,960 Speaker 4: Mom, it's three hours. Jesus, we can't do it. 1455 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,280 Speaker 6: I even explained to my mother that if our family 1456 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 6: couldn't drive three hours to see my wedding, whereas my 1457 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 6: fiance's family can fly in from all around the country, 1458 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 6: then maybe they didn't need to be at the wedding 1459 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,280 Speaker 6: at all, which is a freaking great point because I 1460 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 6: was thinking, I was like, does everybody they know live 1461 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 6: three hours away for the wedding? Presumably not? Presumably these 1462 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 6: people farther as we know. 1463 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 4: There are people are flying from out of the state. 1464 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, and these people can't drive, And Mom is garis. 1465 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 4: I guarantee you, Mom's like, I don't care. That's not 1466 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 4: my family. 1467 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 6: My mom wasn't happy about that comment, but at least 1468 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 6: she's still communicating with me, no matter how chaotic it's been. 1469 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 6: At least I know that all of my fiance's family 1470 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,960 Speaker 6: will be there. They have been so welcoming so far. Anyway, 1471 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 6: I hope you got quite a bit of joy out 1472 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 6: of my misery. I'm going to hopefully pick a venue 1473 01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 6: this week, so wish me luck. 1474 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 4: Good luck. Pick the one you want, the one you wanted, 1475 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 4: the one you want, your wedding. 1476 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 6: Your choice, do it it, don't let anyone tell you. 1477 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 4: Invite me and I'll fly out. 1478 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 6: I'll fly out to your wedding. 1479 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 4: Sounds beautiful. 1480 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 6: DJ for your wedding. 1481 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 4: I'll dance on the outdance for free. Yeah. 1482 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 6: I don't know how to DJ, though, so no, don't 1483 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:18,440 Speaker 6: do that. 1484 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1485 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 6: That is the end of the story and the end 1486 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 6: of this episode. Yes, so, if you love us, make 1487 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,000 Speaker 6: sure to subscribe. 1488 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 4: We love you and see you tomorrow.