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Speaker 3: to do this, and then stepped them at the door

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Speaker 3: and say blah blah blah. But then it's like, if

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Speaker 3: they step outside the door, you are fine for running

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Speaker 3: after them.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, well, it's not like I was running after

447
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Speaker 4: the niggas anyway. But it's different.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a little different circumstances when you see

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Speaker 3: like a person attacking somebody, you know.

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Speaker 5: What, Different than them.

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Speaker 4: Taking some shit.

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Speaker 5: They got some insurance on it that they gonna get

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Speaker 5: their money back.

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Speaker 4: On right, all right.

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Speaker 3: We also had episode five seventy seven Sucker MCS. We

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Speaker 3: talked to Chico Bean of MTS Wilden Out and Upcoming

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Speaker 3: got Court. The poe was do you people want athletes

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Speaker 3: to be ignorant because I think people have talk a

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Speaker 3: good game. But then, you know, we talked about this

460
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Speaker 3: football team, that college football team that went to a

461
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Speaker 3: play and they were yelling gay slurs and stuff at

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Speaker 3: the audience, and that kind of got into a bigger

463
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Speaker 3: conversation about how people kind of like that football people

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Speaker 3: and athletes are like thalls and they like to have

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Speaker 3: that advantage over people, and they kind of enable them

466
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Speaker 3: to be shortsighted and narrow minded a lot of times

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Speaker 3: instead of like opening up their horizons. So the poe was, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you do people want athletest to be ignorant? Eighty six

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Speaker 3: percent of people say yeah, that people do actively want

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Speaker 3: them to be ignorant, and then fourteen percent sayd of

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Speaker 3: course no, you know which I understand. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: don't personally want them to be so I'm maybe that's

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Speaker 3: how people are looking at it too. And of course,

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Speaker 3: the last episode of the week was Feminism episode five

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Speaker 3: seventy eight. We talked to Chill and Owing from the

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Speaker 3: Taste like five Chicken podcasts, and it was a fun time.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people have been commenting on Twitter and

478
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Speaker 3: all this stuff about it Dad says, when it comes

479
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Speaker 3: to podcasting, Rod and Caron makes shit look easy. Here

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Speaker 3: you have four articulate, intelligent podcasts engaging in the debate

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Speaker 3: about a subject that all four are knowledge, knowledgeable, and

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Speaker 3: passionate about. Now, a lot of podcasts and several speakers

483
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Speaker 3: can get a little harry sometimes because people have a

484
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Speaker 3: tendency to talk over one another. I think it's just natural,

485
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Speaker 3: But good hosts know how to rain their guests. When

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Speaker 3: people have a tendency to go on too long on

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Speaker 3: the subject, or when asserting that they the hosts are

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Speaker 3: being talked over or that their questions are not being acknowledged,

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Speaker 3: they know how to address it without losing their tempers

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Speaker 3: and being disrespectful to their guests. But being that there

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Speaker 3: are friends, they know how to walk away from a

492
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Speaker 3: heated debate and still be cool. Not enough people know

493
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Speaker 3: how to do that, me included, and I get that

494
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Speaker 3: chill has a disconnect from the term feminists.

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Speaker 4: The movement is a.

496
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Speaker 3: Response to typically white men holding more power than women.

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Speaker 3: There has been mistakes made and trying to correct the imbalance,

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Speaker 3: But why throw the baby out with the bathwater. There

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Speaker 3: have been mistakes made along the path of fights for

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Speaker 3: civil rights. But there always will be in any movement

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Speaker 3: there are humans there, humans are involved in People will

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Speaker 3: fuck up and will disappoint you, but feminism is still

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Speaker 3: needed by any name. So cool dads. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of it was just about the title and

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Speaker 3: the label of feminism or Chill. She just hates that.

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Speaker 3: So the poll is, is Chill a feminist?

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Speaker 4: Yes or no?

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Speaker 3: Seventy three percent of people say yes, Chill is a feminist.

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Speaker 3: Twenty seven percent of people say no. Nick ju says,

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Speaker 3: ha ha ha, greatness. Juwan Allen says, one of my

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Speaker 3: favorite episodes. Y'all need to get Chilling on and back

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Speaker 3: on soon and run it back again.

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Speaker 4: Games or not.

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Speaker 3: That was some great podcasting. It's always funny. It's like

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Speaker 3: I because I have to show him, like man, we

516
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Speaker 3: didn't get to talk about anything. I'm I have like

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Speaker 3: five pages of shit I was supposed to do. I

518
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Speaker 3: don't know how people gonna like. This episode is either

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Speaker 3: gonna be their worst or their favorite. And you get

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Speaker 3: people like I love this shit. Argue more with your friends.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna take it. Take it like a game, right.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I appreciate y'all for listening.

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Speaker 3: And stuff. Let's listen to some voicemails. So I turned

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Speaker 3: to listen to you. So, uh, the voicemail number is

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Speaker 3: seven O four five seven zero one eighty six. Call

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Speaker 3: it throughout the week. Don't call it now, we'll call

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Speaker 3: it throughout the week and uh uh we'll listen. We'll

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Speaker 3: listen to your voicemails. Here's the first one.

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Speaker 8: What I'm riding, karens. This is a kid one iPhone

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Speaker 8: two on Twitter, so we call it.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 8: Just out there listening to MBP climbing today. I was

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Speaker 8: thinking another one cat names just name a cat is

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Speaker 8: a cat, Williams. That's definitely be another one cat name

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Speaker 8: called uh uh hate cats. I used to have a

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Speaker 8: cat and it's going crazy.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 8: Uh. One day it was just freaking out and I

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Speaker 8: took a giant super soaker and I was blasting it

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Speaker 8: and they kept trying to attack their Arsenal Harker like

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Speaker 8: Slash slammed the door on the cat's taste and cat's

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Speaker 8: trying to attack her. Yeah, that's why I don't fucking cats.

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Speaker 8: We have two cats. One cat was a homie. The

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Speaker 8: other cat was crazy. The homey cat even went with them,

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Speaker 8: starts going crazy. So that's fin on fucking cats. But

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Speaker 8: if I want to get the cat be Kat Williams,

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Speaker 8: what else we're gonna say? What's wrong? Uh? Everybody, I

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Speaker 8: hope you had a good Hella hella, hella, hella hella. Hello,

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Speaker 8: Hello Halloween? What call it over my work? They were like,

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Speaker 8: I was cracking up regulationism. Uh talking with black people Halloween,

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Speaker 8: of course. And I was cracking up my work because

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Speaker 8: they're doing the men and Black team and I want,

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Speaker 8: like the only black people I work. And They're like,

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Speaker 8: who's gonna be will Smith? And I'm like, oh, I

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Speaker 8: see how it is.

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Speaker 10: Guy.

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Speaker 8: It is just cracking up at that by trying to

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Speaker 8: see that I was gonna be my birthday because my

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Speaker 8: birthday novement first, so what up?

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Speaker 9: What up?

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Speaker 8: And I also wanted to get my podcast a shout

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Speaker 8: out everybody, check me out in TA and uh, peace

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Speaker 8: out you guys always do work.

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Speaker 3: Peace all right, man, thank you so much man for

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Speaker 3: hitting us up. Yeah, Cat Williams would be a good

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Speaker 3: name for Amber's cat. Maybe Cat Stevens, Cat Turner. I

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Speaker 3: think she's so pro black, you know something like that. Uh,

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Speaker 3: I could get with cat Stacks of course. All right,

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Speaker 3: let's see if we could find another voicemail here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Karen's up. It's Mike.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 11: I was calling in regard to when you're talking about

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Speaker 11: football players and so wanting the athletes to be stupid

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Speaker 11: and you know, take the concussion injury as opposed to

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Speaker 11: you know, like the lower hits ship like that, and

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Speaker 11: it seems like that's very very much an American thing.

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Speaker 11: I'm a big soccer fan and I watched a lot

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Speaker 11: of soccer, uh And that you know, soccer gets his

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Speaker 11: fair share of criticism for the theatricality of it, like

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Speaker 11: my bookers like diving on the ground and going around

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Speaker 11: like the art shit. But when players actually are injured,

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Speaker 11: it seems like the prevailing wisdom is to actually, you know,

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Speaker 11: recover fully from injured before you go back on the stield,

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Speaker 11: even if that takes a long time, and while you know,

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Speaker 11: you gotta be extra tough all the time, no matter what.

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Speaker 11: They was a thing in England for a long time,

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Speaker 11: like until the sixties to seventies, maybe the eighties. It's

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Speaker 11: really gone away from that a lot, and just kind

589
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Speaker 11: of wants to see the skills. They're not worried so

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Speaker 11: much about Oh my god, this guy's just like a hacksaw.

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Speaker 11: He tears everybody up on the field. It's more of

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Speaker 11: a wow, I can't believe how talented these guys are.

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Speaker 11: I just want to watch them do their job in

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Speaker 11: that way. I mean understand, football is more pysical. I

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Speaker 11: wonder if there's anything that can realistically be done about

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Speaker 11: that American mentality of everything is war and you got.

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Speaker 9: To be a warrior.

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Speaker 11: And this is like you know you you played that

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Speaker 11: ship with you talking about here as a warrior, Joy

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Speaker 11: Bade And but yeah, I don't know if we can

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Speaker 11: do anything about that American mentality. Man. Anyway, just you know,

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Speaker 11: thought high peace.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Part of me wonders if it's like a football thing too,

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Speaker 3: because like in other sports, if you get a concussion,

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Speaker 3: like people have, like in hockey, people have taken like

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Speaker 3: entire seasons off because of concussion, you know, so it does. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I wonder it's also it's like football are the gladiator

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Speaker 3: athletes quote unquote. And then also it like the reason

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Speaker 3: another reason that feels like people want our athletes to

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Speaker 3: be dumb is because when like people will be like

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Speaker 3: some people will be like, well, so and so doesn't

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Speaker 3: take political stances, So and SO doesn't care about anything,

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Speaker 3: so so does it. But then like if they do,

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Speaker 3: it's it's almost like a what the fuck do you know?

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Speaker 3: You're just an athlete and you know about intelligence.

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Speaker 6: You're not supposed to have an opinion about it, especially

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Speaker 6: if it's an opinion that they particularly don't agree with.

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Speaker 6: And for me, Mike, the thing about it is that

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Speaker 6: I feel like our culture just just just the American

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Speaker 6: culture period was War, Civil War, American Indian War.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's just war.

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Speaker 6: You know, we fought against England, and so a lot

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Speaker 6: of extends back to you fight, you fight to the death,

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Speaker 6: you fight.

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Speaker 5: No matter what you do, whatever it takes to win.

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Speaker 6: And I think a lot of that mentality has got

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Speaker 6: pushed into football versus some of the other sports. And

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Speaker 6: I think that it's considered a man All sports are

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Speaker 6: considered mainly, don't get me wrong, but football particularly has

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Speaker 6: that man bro you know, testosterone atmosphere, you know where

632
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Speaker 6: you have to you know, pump each other up, you

633
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Speaker 6: know it being be it by dances, which you know

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Speaker 6: years ago probably would have been tribal.

635
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Speaker 5: Dances or whatever. So I think it's a lot of tradition.

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Speaker 6: Uh, the dates back to just war and my my

637
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Speaker 6: personal opinion, and and and when you do when you're

638
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Speaker 6: fighting a war, you want to fight to to the

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Speaker 6: to the to the death basically, and literally a lot

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Speaker 6: of these players really play to death, if if that

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Speaker 6: makes sense. So I think to me that that correlates

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Speaker 6: to each other. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Also, just I think there's a fantasy that a lot

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Speaker 3: of sports fans have of what it's like to be

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Speaker 3: a player on the team. Yes, And part of that

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Speaker 3: fantasy is the guy culture and the ignorance that is

647
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Speaker 3: bred around it. Like, uh, it's like this hyper masculinity

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Speaker 3: that is you know that people are you know, identified

649
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Speaker 3: with where it's like, you know, you're a man's man

650
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Speaker 3: because you know, you're homophobic, you're religious, you're a womanizer,

651
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Speaker 3: you're you solve problems with violence.

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Speaker 4: These are the things that you know, we want our

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Speaker 4: heat used to do.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 9: All Right, next brings in the Kennedy Corner podcast run Karen,

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Speaker 9: It's this is the co host Howard uh about the

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Speaker 9: whole solidar areas for a white woman things. I went

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Speaker 9: back on Twitter and I was reading through some of

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Speaker 9: those and the ones that kind of stuck with me.

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Speaker 9: Were like the ones about like, how how you know

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Speaker 9: Corey Montee dies and that's a tragedy, but Trayvon was

662
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 9: a thug. And then you know, Miley Sires is experimenting,

663
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 9: but Leanna has a it has responsibility. Maybe it's just

664
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 9: my opinion, but that comes off since very genner to

665
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 9: come off as an issue of solidarity. That just comes

666
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 9: off to me. Maybe it's me as a black man

667
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 9: in America. As as examples of institutionalized racism, especially the

668
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 9: one about how you know, colored hair and tattoos on

669
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 9: a woman comes off as edgy or all upon a

670
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 9: white woman, but she puts those things on a black woman,

671
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 9: that comes off as last year ghetto. Just my outbook

672
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 9: on that sort of thing. I don't know how you

673
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 9: feel about that issue, so yes, it should you on that,

674
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 9: please and thank you?

675
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 4: All right. I feel like the.

676
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: There's a lot of either or with all this stuff,

677
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 3: with all these discussions, and it doesn't like I think

678
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: the world is kind of shades of gray. And to me,

679
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: both of those causes quote unquote can intersect. Where the

680
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: part of it is that the people that typically will

681
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: argue for female like expression in those same arenas will

682
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: shut the fuck up if it's a black woman. And

683
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: that's what a lot of this stems from, where it's like,

684
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: you know, hey, we get on here, we support each

685
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: other's causes, we bring up issues that we find all

686
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: the time, and we're all right, rah, until it's someone

687
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: that doesn't look like you, and then all of a sudden,

688
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: everybody that typically has the biggest platforms to get their

689
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: gripes out there to shut they clam up or or

690
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: even worse, sometimes they join in, you know.

691
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: So that's part of it, and I think also, you're right,

692
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: racism is a part of it too.

693
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: It's a huge part, which is kind of you know,

694
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: a lot of these people's point, which is, uh, now

695
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: that the race of the topic has changed, people suddenly

696
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: can't see the same parallels with feminism and all of

697
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: that stuff.

698
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 6: So yes, and at the end of the day, everything

699
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 6: but like this, humanity in itself is a beautiful thing.

700
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 6: But when you have sections in part of humanity that

701
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 6: doesn't look at everybody like a human these individuals who

702
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 6: are not looked at as human, as human beings and

703
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 6: as the same or looked at to be on the

704
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 6: same level as you these people have got to demand

705
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 6: that you tweat them as a human being, and so

706
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 6: you do have these divisions, and a lot of these

707
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 6: divisions is because these particular groups feel like their issues

708
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 6: are not being heard if they're considered collective with another group,

709
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 6: like you said, branches out. Because there are people that

710
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 6: support feminism, yes, but then there are people go, Okay, yeah,

711
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 6: we support feminism, but you know what, we're not going

712
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 6: on the slootwalk, you know, because you know, we don't.

713
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 5: Feel like a lot of black women's like that's not cool,

714
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 5: you know.

715
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 6: And then we have black women who go, Okay, I

716
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 6: support you white women and feminism, but we got black

717
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 6: women issues.

718
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 5: And when the white women, a lot of times whitemen

719
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 5: go with them, not our.

720
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 6: Issues, but fuck you, we've got divorcee these We're not

721
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 6: gonna let you show us down because you don't agree

722
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 6: with us. And a lot of it comes from just

723
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 6: division amongst the groups, and it causes everybody to want

724
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 6: them was to be heard and every to me, all

725
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 6: everybody is valid, and the problem is that when people

726
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 6: come and tell one group or another group that they're

727
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 6: not valid because they don't agree with their stands of

728
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 6: where they come from. But at the end of the day,

729
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 6: most people, at some period of their life has had

730
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 6: some kind of oppression, and so that's why a lot

731
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 6: of these groups come up and feel like they have

732
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 6: to stand up.

733
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 4: For their rights.

734
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just think, yeah, I just think

735
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 3: that there's a crossover there to be had where race

736
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: tape plays a part. And you know, the idea that

737
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: feminism stops at blackness, you know, it's some racist shit,

738
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: you know, and it happens. You know, certain people just

739
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 3: don't uphold the shit all the time, you know, Like

740
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: it's one of the reasons that I, like, I'm hesitant

741
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 3: to use the label feminists with anything, Like I don't

742
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: like to call myself that, Like, I don't even like

743
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: because it is so many different rules and definitions, and

744
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: the term is so broad at this point that it's

745
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: almost like using it is just as detrimental as not

746
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: using it when it comes to certain discussions, because people like,

747
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: you know, like like chill right, she wants everybody to

748
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: have the same rights, and I think that you know,

749
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 3: most people would agree with that, that that's a great stance.

750
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 3: But then if you say the word feminism, it's like

751
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: whoa fuck you not, don't don't use that word. So

752
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: you know, at this point, it's almost like irreparably damaged

753
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 3: just by people who have either you know, not lived

754
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: up to certain standards or have used it in the

755
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 3: context to limit people, you know, And I think a

756
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 3: lot of this stuff is backlash to that. And you know,

757
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: when you bring up like solidarities for white women, when

758
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: you bring up you know, all of these things, there's

759
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 3: gonna always be emotional issues that stem way back that

760
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 3: these things are hearkening to. And yeah, people are gonna

761
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: be untrusting, people are gonna I mean they have. There's

762
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: a lot of damage, a lot of healing that has

763
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 3: to be done behind that shit, and I don't know

764
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 3: if it can be done. So yeah, when you see

765
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: some major people run with your shit that you came

766
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 3: up with on a whim on Twitter, on the one hand,

767
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 3: it's working because it's like cool, what you said was

768
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: resonated with a lot of people. And on the other hand,

769
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: you got motherfucker sitting up here like, uh, where's the

770
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: black people on the panel that's supposed.

771
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 4: To be discussing this. You know that's true, It's just

772
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 4: it's just a crazy weird situation.

773
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, when it comes to it, I don't I don't

774
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 6: like I said, I don't know what a place myself.

775
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 6: All I know is that I got a vagina. Goddamn it.

776
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 6: I want my rights. You can call me whatever the

777
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 6: fuck you won't call me. Uh but at the end

778
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 6: of the day, I got I want the same rights

779
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 6: as any man.

780
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure we'll discuss that in a second, because

781
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: I think we got some emails on it and stuff.

782
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 3: And also I went back and listened to the episode too,

783
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: so I actually have more stuff to say.

784
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 2: Brod, what's up, Karen? Hey, Rod, you and Sam Sung?

785
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: Y'all are the bor tag team make a mad champions Man?

786
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: Sam sung them commercials being a winner. Then they show

787
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: him improving his game you can, helping out Mario Traumas.

788
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: I know that Toya doesn't really like that too much,

789
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: but you know that's the problem. They showing him being

790
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: a part of his community, playing dominoes with the senior citizens,

791
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: helping the kids out. Then they saw him having the

792
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: life outside of basketball, meeting dignitaries, having fun Duncan at

793
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: the Cowboys stadium. You know, show him that he's an

794
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: all around man. Then they show him being a great

795
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: family man, hanging out with his kids, great husband, newly

796
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: we just enjoying life. Then they showed these coachable sitting

797
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: down with their exposure, going over the place, getting that

798
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: mental work in that mental edge. Then the next thing

799
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: you know, he's ready to do the same thing again

800
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: next year. All the jasses and everybody really doesn't like that.

801
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: But you know what, Ron, you also have to have

802
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: your part in this thing. Here's some of your tweets

803
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: that you came in with the finish that you got

804
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: to tag. Lebron isn't selling the phone, He's selling the

805
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 2: American dream. Is It's true Lebron ads as long asough

806
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 2: to qualify him for in ostin. If I was Lebron,

807
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: I have part of the ad with me getting some

808
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: head slipping some weed took him up, Brown said the

809
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: ATM smiling so hard. So Lebron had need to have

810
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: police sumpficers laying him out of the ticket, just to

811
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: add that extra sins to it. I hope the next

812
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: Lebron ad is at Kim and Kanye's wedding with Beyonce's

813
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: singing in the background. That's the one, two three finish

814
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: for the new championship right there, man, keep doing it,

815
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: keep doing what y'all do. Love it every week, little listener,

816
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: first time caller, your rod, it's me the back guy

817
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: who cips lady.

818
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, man, I appreciate you calling.

819
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 6: Uh.

820
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was party hard on that Lebron stuff man,

821
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 3: not one, not two, not three. And yeah it's good

822
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 3: to see him prospers. And my new favorite part of

823
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: that commercial is when him and his wife are playing,

824
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: laying on the bed looking at the tablet and then

825
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 3: she starts laughing that that's my new that that Lebron

826
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 3: wife laugh is good man, that missus James laugh.

827
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 5: It's good.

828
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 4: I love it. They happy as shit.

829
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: Yep, magga the mad playing dominoes and ship on the boardwalk. Amazing,

830
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: amazing to see people upset. I almost did my search

831
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 3: for Lebron nigger thing, but I said, nah, get these

832
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 3: haters the day off. You guys know, comic says all day.

833
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 3: I know y'all mad when they got the rings that ceremony,

834
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: and when I won that game and made Derrick Rose

835
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: look like like pedestrian against them, So I see it.

836
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: Last voicemail, Hey, what's going on right.

837
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: I'd just like to thank you for giving me one

838
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: of the best pink of the week heavyes that I've

839
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: ever had the pasor of putting up at my Twitter

840
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: name the fat guy who tips Man. The order story

841
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: of that thing is just so great considering that you

842
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: know that kid only knows you as that fat nigga

843
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: that we played basketball, where it right, and then for

844
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: him to actually tank that to your face makes it

845
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: even more Heavid and call about tanking can't be completely

846
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: without including Miss Karen. Mss Karen, you had me shut

847
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: down Tank of the Week, Abby, voting early with your

848
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: Stefan reference as the Sedman. When you were talking about

849
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: Rod being the Oprah like interviewer that he is on

850
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: the Medium Pot shows, you were like, oh, with your

851
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: timing in with yeah, I guess that makes me Stefan

852
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 2: find picture quick and put it up as by Abby

853
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: on my Tuesday before the Hot five started through even

854
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: read their thanks of the week. So thank you guys

855
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: for all the work got put into and I enjoyed

856
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 2: the shows.

857
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, that's Karen all day. I didn't realize

858
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: was that Don Dela reented the whole time. I didn't

859
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: realize that. Okay yo, thanks Don for Colin Dogs. But yeah,

860
00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: he that I didn't even catch that Stefan tank. That

861
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 3: is so bad, Like I feel like I have tank

862
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 3: earmuf song at this point, you know, I can't catch

863
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: them all, man, can't catch them all? All right, man,

864
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: we gotta get to the emails, and that would be

865
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 3: like the last segment, of course, if you want to

866
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: call in the phone line seven oh four five five

867
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: seven zero one eighty six. Let's go ahead and read

868
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: these emails the black the blackout tips. We got this

869
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 3: one from about park rangers and the subject was park

870
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: rangers go.

871
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 4: From Alicia, Hey, Rod and Cam.

872
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: I just listened to Show five sixty seven with Whiskey

873
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: Wine and Moonshine, and I heard what you said about

874
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: park rangers man and my debo voice. I am completely outraged.

875
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: I want you to know I was a park ranger

876
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: for almost two years. That position was coveted by many

877
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: and demanded a high level of responsibility and concentration. I

878
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 3: had vast dudes to fulfill. Ha Now for real, though,

879
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 3: I just talked to the random tourists that came through,

880
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 3: talked to the little kids about animals, kept people from

881
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: still the artifacts and made sure people didn't get lost

882
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 3: in the hiking in the woods.

883
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 4: Some park rangers don't do a whole lot.

884
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: I love the show. Keep y'all, keep it going, y'all,

885
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 3: y'all with the blackout tests?

886
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 4: What's up?

887
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 5: The Day of the Geechee is over, the Day of

888
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 5: the Geechee is over?

889
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: What's going on?

890
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 5: Chill? How don't fuck y'all.

891
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 7: Gonna talk about I'm a gap there feminist black guy

892
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 7: who took nation. Really, when you know what else I am?

893
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 7: I'm a dickest too, I'm a dickest. Yeah, how about that?

894
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 12: Y'all want to join my call?

895
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 5: Got damn? Y'all want to march for this? Mk? All right? Whatever?

896
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 4: What's going on?

897
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 8: People?

898
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 3: Well, you always welcome and join. You always welcome to

899
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: join the masculinst My masculinism movement is, you know, gaining steam.

900
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 3: I officially had owen join up. So if you want

901
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: to hop on board the mass, you welcome to it.

902
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 6: Ma'am.

903
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: Well, apparently I'm.

904
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 5: Already one shit you know shit?

905
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 8: So I mean I should not have to.

906
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 7: Join for ship with the fun, but hey, I had

907
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 7: I had a good time with y'all. Motherfuckers, like I

908
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 7: must say, you too. And see Rod, now you see

909
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 7: why me and my toy back of the day. Certain

910
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 7: thing I do not talk about, whether it's a religion

911
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 7: or politics or whatever.

912
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, it gets my.

913
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: Blood pressure up, doog if I just go ham and

914
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 4: but it'd be fun to see what you is fun?

915
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 5: So you not one of them ignorant motherfuckers.

916
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 7: And Karen, you not one of them ignorant motherfuckers who

917
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 7: just you know, at the same time you state your

918
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 7: no case, it's like you close mind and it's like,

919
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 7: you know, hey, Okay, we're gonna have fun, but we're

920
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 7: gonna come hard.

921
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: We're gonna go hard.

922
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, man, it's all love.

923
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 7: It's all fucking fun. And I enjoyed the fuck out

924
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 7: y'all niggas.

925
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: Man, you too, man, I had a great time, Like

926
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: I was having a lot of fun with the conversation,

927
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: and I felt like a lot of good points of

928
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: being made. And you know, the only thing I kept

929
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: thinking about was what's the febac You're gonna be like, like,

930
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: I hope this shit ain't gonna be crazy and people

931
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: are gonna be like.

932
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 4: Then you said all women are stupid, bro, And I'm like,

933
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: I never said that.

934
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: So it's been good so far. We gotta get through

935
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: these emails. But hopefully that means you know, that's that's

936
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: a good thing. And everybody understood everybody's points.

937
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I ain't trying to keep it on.

938
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 4: I just want to I love y'all, love you too, chill,

939
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

940
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: Man, And he also, man, I gotta give you credit

941
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: to because a lot of people I think I wouldn't

942
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: have even trusted to go back and forth with like

943
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: that because motherfuckers do seem so thin skins sometimes. So

944
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: it was you know, like it's to I think some

945
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 3: people see it a different way, but for me personally,

946
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 3: people that I will actually argue it, that's that's a

947
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 3: real friend that you could be like I don't agree

948
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: with you, and it didn't degrade to like I cut

949
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: your nigga. It was just a good conversation. Everybody was

950
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: passionate and had fun. People still making jokes and like,

951
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: I really do got to come in you on that because,

952
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 3: like I said, I think a lot of people it

953
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: would have been like man.

954
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 4: Fuck them.

955
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: You know, I don't appreciate that, right, Why y'all niggashit

956
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 3: me on Twitter about this ship like that.

957
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: So I appreciate you, yeah so much. All I'm gonna

958
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 4: tell you something.

959
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 7: Me and Keith from Dallas, we go hand like this

960
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 7: all of god damn time. I mean, we go back

961
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 7: and forth, and and my baby be on the phone

962
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 7: listening to us, thinking we both fucking crazy as ship.

963
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 5: She'd just be sitting there listening.

964
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 7: And ship be like, I don't know what the fun

965
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 7: but it be all love, you know, And that's what

966
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 7: you know. And to go back not to bring them

967
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 7: fuck niggas up, but you know, like in them. I mean,

968
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 7: like you said, and you were saying, how you and

969
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 7: the phenom Black get down.

970
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 4: And they go hard.

971
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 5: I disagree with you, but you know what, at the

972
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 5: end of the day, it's all love. Yeah, man, that's real.

973
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 4: So also, I didn't want to tell you this, man,

974
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: but I actually agree with you. The whole time. I

975
00:46:54,560 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: was just playing Devil's advocate. It's all good, a nigga.

976
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 4: Did we have a Yeah you did, Yeah we did.

977
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,479
Speaker 5: We had a good time.

978
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 7: So finish reading because I want to hear what rest

979
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 7: of the people got to say, because you know, I

980
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 7: do love the actual feedback show.

981
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 5: It's the part sorry handing your business and sous she said,

982
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 5: I mean niggers.

983
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: M M.

984
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 4: All right?

985
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: Oh man, oh but uh what was that? Oh yeah, okay,

986
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 3: So back to what she was saying. Love the show,

987
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: y'all keep it going. Oh yeah, and Rod, every time

988
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: you say first things first, I have to follow it

989
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 3: up with obey your thirst.

990
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 4: Sprite all right, Well listen, it's drink. It's drinkspright, all right.

991
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: But hey, I appreciate you and I know exactly what

992
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: commercial you're talking about, grand Pool.

993
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 4: That was my ship.

994
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 6: Man.

995
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 4: Uh, let me say something, okay. LSG nine Feedback by Natasha.

996
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: She says, Hey, Rod and Karen try to leave a

997
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: comment on the site, but it doesn't look like it

998
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: went through.

999
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 4: Was fixed.

1000
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: Now the comments work. Anybody has any issues, let me know.

1001
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 3: I wanted to give Karen kudos for the excellent interview

1002
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 3: she did with the Domestic Diva.

1003
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 5: Yes, I had a great time interview. It was so

1004
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 5: much fun.

1005
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: It was fun and informative. I'll be eagerly await more

1006
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 3: a little smacking good episodes. Yes, and that's about Natasha. Man,

1007
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: thank you so much, Natasha. I listened to it too,

1008
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: and I thought it was great. Like I I just

1009
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 3: went to edit it and I was like, let me

1010
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: listen to a minute to make sure the sound was okay.

1011
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, fucking an hour gone by listed.

1012
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 3: Whole thing is like they just got on like old friends.

1013
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 8: Yes.

1014
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 6: I like to talk and I like to find out

1015
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 6: about people, did mind frames, what they do and things

1016
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 6: like that.

1017
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 5: So that nature was very fun.

1018
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, educated black people list by Ronda. She says, dear

1019
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 3: Rod and Karen. Oh wait, no, I'm sorry, dear Karen

1020
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: and Rod.

1021
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm in the front.

1022
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 4: Has she must be a damn feminist call up to

1023
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 4: your show. Fucking up the order of the names. Put

1024
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 4: in the one first. That's why you can't get nowhere.

1025
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 5: Show came put that put that a giant in front

1026
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 5: of that penis thank you.

1027
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: When I read the names, I just see two humans. Okay,

1028
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: I don't see the sex. Yeah humans. That list was horrible.

1029
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: I like some things on that list, but they have

1030
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 3: nothing to do with my education. Maybe I'm uneducated and

1031
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: I didn't know it. I actually want to call this

1032
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 3: a dumb ass list. Sounds like it should have been

1033
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: the boogie list.

1034
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 4: Randa.

1035
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, that list seemed I will say this, I wasn't

1036
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 3: offendive o a list at all, but it felt more

1037
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 3: like petty or like maybe they had individual grits with

1038
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: a specific subset of people that like they.

1039
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 4: Had experienced it.

1040
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: And it also is possible that I just don't run

1041
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: in those circles maybe though all those things are huge in.

1042
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 4: The quote unquote educated black community.

1043
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: But it felt like they were trying to do the

1044
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 3: same satire as stuff white people like. And I didn't

1045
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 3: want to be the guy who goes, well, you know,

1046
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: technically I don't know anybody.

1047
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 6: I guess I'm not educated in black then, because you know,

1048
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 6: we didn't qualify for a third of the crap on

1049
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 6: the list.

1050
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I would never like detract from it because

1051
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 3: I would believe the entire thing they would try to

1052
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 3: do is basically make a big joke. So good for them, man,

1053
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 3: you know it's it was funny, you know. Sure a

1054
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: lot of people spread it around. Sarachi for Life, says

1055
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: Jay Z, says Dearest, my dearest.

1056
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 4: Riding care.

1057
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: Fuck these people who didn't know what they were signing

1058
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 3: up for when they signed a dotted line to live

1059
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 3: in Sarashi Town, USA.

1060
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 4: Ah hell. Yes, there may be some coughing, but nobody cares. Look.

1061
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 3: I put sarashi on hot dogs, pizza burgers. I mixed

1062
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 3: that ship with ranch and make sarashi and dip my

1063
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: fries in it.

1064
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 5: Oh that sounds good.

1065
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 4: I take take my sarashi from my cold dead hands.

1066
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 4: You're paling Christ James.

1067
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 5: Oh that's that's that's that's serious right there.

1068
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: That's like the white version that on Everything. I Love

1069
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 3: Ya five to seven five. That song was always weird

1070
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 3: to me from Mallard, Redgrave, Hey Rod and Karen love

1071
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 3: this week's shows.

1072
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 4: I laughed hard as hell that you playing ain't no fun.

1073
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: First time I heard it when I was eleven, when

1074
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: I listened to my dad's copy of Death Roe's greatest hits.

1075
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 4: Damn dad was fucking with death Row. Your dad, Oh,

1076
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 4: my dad is a public enemy. I think he was

1077
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 4: sicking the white people at work.

1078
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 5: Yep, that's deep as your day to rap got come

1079
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 5: no my dad.

1080
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 4: Well I guess maybe, but public enemy is pretty deep.

1081
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they deep on that conscious tipty. That's

1082
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 6: kind of how your dad mind thinks, right, But like,

1083
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 6: I don't think he's gonna be listen to no Snoop

1084
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 6: Dogg or Doctor Dre. That's why I said, that's as

1085
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 6: deep as your daddy.

1086
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 4: Got right, that's true.

1087
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 3: Even as a child, I was like, that's nasty, Like really,

1088
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 3: who the fuck thinks this is a good idea. Luckily

1089
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: my dad had his copy of Public Enemies Apocalypse ninety

1090
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 3: one to balance it out. Yeah, dog, and you were

1091
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 3: right to stay. You were right to stay playing Xbox.

1092
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: Uh so I know how far are you an attack

1093
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: on Titan? I want to say, I'm in an episode

1094
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 3: ten or twelve. Here's the thing about attack on Titan, guys,

1095
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: And this is my fault, it's not anyone else's fault.

1096
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: But I started watching this with Karen, and then I

1097
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 3: have this thing where I don't want to skip ahead

1098
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: because I'm like, oh, I need to wait for Karen

1099
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: to watch it now.

1100
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 4: That is completely a thing that I have manufactured in

1101
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: my own mind.

1102
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: Karen doesn't stop me from watching the show without her,

1103
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: and she can always go back and watch those old

1104
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: episodes later.

1105
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 4: It's on our country road.

1106
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 5: But I enjoy watching them with you though.

1107
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's just in my mind. I keep being like, well,

1108
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 3: I wait till Karen gets time. Karen never gets the time.

1109
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: You know, if I started getting ready to play something,

1110
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: she'll get up walk out the room.

1111
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 4: That's what Karen does. That's how women watch TV.

1112
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: So I don't even know why I wait to watch

1113
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 3: certain things of her because she's just gonna get up

1114
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 3: and walk out the room.

1115
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 4: Anyway.

1116
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 3: There's some things I watch with you now mm hmm,

1117
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 3: like like Key and Peele. No yeah, used to though,

1118
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 3: right yes, right then, But there's no announcement. It's just

1119
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: I got three weeks of Ken and Peele saved up,

1120
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 3: I hit played, Karen walks out and start doing this.

1121
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, she don't do camp Pill no more.

1122
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 6: And it's it's not that it's it's a lot going on.

1123
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 6: It's like, okay, I won't watch camp Pill, Okay, I

1124
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 6: need to we need some eat. So I go start

1125
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 6: doing other ship making the meal or some ship like that,

1126
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 6: and I'm like, you know what, I just won't watch it.

1127
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Yeah.

1128
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 3: The the correct answer is I'm behind, but I'll catch

1129
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 3: up on my own and Karen can always go back

1130
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 3: and watch it.

1131
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 8: Uh.

1132
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 4: You mentioned crunchy Roll on the past episode, so I

1133
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 4: figured you watch it.

1134
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been watching it. Everybody's so excited and hyped

1135
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 3: about it. I'm hoping that it's gonna continue to be great.

1136
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 6: Man.

1137
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 4: When I left off, it was still good.

1138
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1139
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: The only issue I have is that my man Peke

1140
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 3: Blurman tried to shit on sword Out online to cite

1141
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: some attack on Titan, and that got my blood boiling, cause.

1142
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 5: You know, I love I have seen that one. But

1143
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 5: but but from what you were saying, it's really really good.

1144
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1145
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 3: I love that so like and then he kind of

1146
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: was shipping on it, and I was like, well, this

1147
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 3: is not gonna get me on your side. But I

1148
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 3: think that that's just this way. He doesn't know how

1149
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 3: to talk to people without starting to fight. So I

1150
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 3: accepted it's what it is.

1151
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, I get you man. Feminists four

1152
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: exclamation points by Chris. I love this show. Go Chill.

1153
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 3: I agree that the problem with feminist is that there

1154
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 3: is so many different definitions.

1155
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 4: It confuses people. See this is his thing, man?

1156
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 3: Is that what Chill said that the problem was that

1157
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 3: it's so many different definitions. I knew this is gonna

1158
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 3: happen that people would be like, this is the thing.

1159
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: I agree, this is the thing, and that's not the

1160
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 3: thing to.

1161
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 5: Just have a problem with the word period.

1162
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't remember her being like, my problem

1163
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: is that there's too many definitions.

1164
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 5: I talked about the different definitions. Yeah, yeah, I said that.

1165
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: So you agree with me and Karen because we also

1166
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: think it's too many definitions. Like I said, I went

1167
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 3: and listen to the episode and I said it. Karen

1168
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 3: said it several times. Yes, that's a problem. There's too

1169
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: many there's too many definitions of the shit. It confuses

1170
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: people so they're just like, fuck that noise. The most

1171
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 3: successful movements had leaders and a definition of what they.

1172
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 4: Stood for and wanted. And I don't think it.

1173
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 3: I don't think it is a bad thing to tell

1174
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 3: women to protect themselves from dirt back raping motherfuckers because

1175
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 3: this is not a perfect world and motherfucker's gonna do

1176
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 3: fucked up shit if they get an opportunity to.

1177
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 4: Rather it be rape, stealing and killing that none of

1178
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 4: this came up on the showf but he agrees a

1179
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 4: chill man. This is what Chill said. Lynchen niggas is illegal.

1180
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 3: But I know if I go to Harrison at Arkansas,

1181
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 3: I might get Lynch, So I stay away. Keep up

1182
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 3: the great work.

1183
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 4: Love you guys.

1184
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 6: Okay, first of all, I have a lot of issues

1185
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 6: with what you said. A child never said that. Chill

1186
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 6: just has a problem with the word itself.

1187
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 5: Feminism.

1188
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 6: Yes, there are many different definitions of the word feminism.

1189
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 6: When it comes to feminism, feminism a lot of times

1190
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 6: is personal, and sometimes people have tendency to forget that,

1191
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 6: just like your life is personal and you and you

1192
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 6: form your opinions and your worldview off of your personal definitions.

1193
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 6: And also back to some of the stuff you was

1194
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 6: saying at the end of the day, tell motherfuckers not

1195
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 6: to fucking rape. Okay, tell motherfuckers don't attack and assault women.

1196
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 5: That's what you do. That's what you do.

1197
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 3: Well, not just that, but where is this, like remer,

1198
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: while I was talking about the false ultimatums like the

1199
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 3: either or the like, there's not two things, two schools

1200
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: or thoughts about something. There is no situation where we

1201
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 3: don't teach women and girls at this point to protect themselves.

1202
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 3: Name the person who says, let's not teach women to

1203
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: protect themselves. We teach hopefully everybody's teaching all their kids

1204
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 3: to protect themselves all the time.

1205
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 4: Anyway, Yeah, they do.

1206
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 5: And I mean.

1207
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 3: That's that's not just a little girl thing, that's an

1208
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 3: everybody thing.

1209
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.

1210
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 6: And the problem that I have is that when you

1211
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 6: when people say things, and they phrase things in a

1212
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 6: certain pattern and in a certain way, they don't realize

1213
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:11,959
Speaker 6: how it sounds.

1214
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 5: To other people's ears.

1215
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 6: Because when I me as a woman, when I hear

1216
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 6: when I hear that statement, you just made you know

1217
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 6: what I said.

1218
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 5: You know what I hear you are.

1219
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 6: Giving an excuse for people, for people doing shit and

1220
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 6: saying women protect yourself, they gonna do what they gonna.

1221
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 5: Do, like like like to me, that's what I'm hearing.

1222
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 4: In all fairness, he didn't say that. No, No, that's

1223
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 4: that's that's right. I understand.

1224
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: But we I mean, just as you wouldn't want him

1225
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: putting words in your mouth, I wouldn't add that to

1226
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 3: his discussion.

1227
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 5: No, no, just just the way that the sentence was phrased.

1228
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so he said, and I don't think it's a

1229
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 3: bad thing to tell women to protect them, to protect

1230
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 3: yourself from dirt bag raping motherfuckers, because this is not

1231
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 3: a perfect world and motherfucker's gonna do fucked up ship

1232
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 3: if they get an opportunity rather be raped, stealing and killing.

1233
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, So in my mind, I guess just me listening

1234
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 6: to that statement, it's like, Okay, it goes back to

1235
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 6: the to the thing where.

1236
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 5: We tell women to protect themselves. That's what they do.

1237
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 5: Motherfuck're gonna do it.

1238
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 6: Motherfucks are gonna do Hey, deal with it, like and

1239
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 6: maybe I'm not comprehending what he's saying, but in my mind,

1240
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 6: that's what I get out of that statement he just said.

1241
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's not fair to say that, because

1242
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 3: I think it would be different if he was excusing

1243
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 3: it like it's okay, or like it's uh not, like

1244
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 3: it's not a problem. But I think if you put

1245
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: rape in the same sentence it's stealing and killing, then

1246
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 3: you're recognizing that those are all illegal and wrong acts.

1247
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 4: Yes they are.

1248
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 3: My problem is that the way he framed it, it

1249
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 3: makes it seem like we Karen and Rod and other

1250
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 3: people don't think people should take precautions at all, and

1251
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: that we like, we don't know that these things happened

1252
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 3: in the world. What we're saying is, especially when it

1253
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 3: comes to sexual assault, and the majority of it isn't

1254
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 3: this like jumping out the bushes. Sexual assault that you know,

1255
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: shit is framed as it's people going on dates, it's

1256
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 3: people going to parties, it's you know, college.

1257
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 4: You know, people you trust, yes, family members.

1258
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 3: So for me saying protect yourself, how do I protect

1259
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,959
Speaker 3: myself from my cousin? How do I protect myself from

1260
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 3: a guy that I'm going on a date with. I

1261
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 3: might not want to have sex with him, but I

1262
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 3: don't mind going on a date. We've all been on dates,

1263
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 3: We've all watched Netflix on the couch. Some dude just

1264
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 3: decides I'm gonna take this pussy. What is the what

1265
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 3: is the protection I'm supposed to have in this moment?

1266
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1267
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 4: You know so I think that's part of it.

1268
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 3: Also, I think it conjures up certain iterations of like negativity,

1269
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 3: because it's like, is this also gonna like?

1270
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 4: What does teach women to protect themselves?

1271
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 6: Mean?

1272
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: Are do you lump it in with don't wear a

1273
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: short skirt? Or do you lump it in with with

1274
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 3: carry mace? Or do you lump it in with don't

1275
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 3: go out at a certain time of night? Do you

1276
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 3: lump it in with you know?

1277
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, like is protect yourself.

1278
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,959
Speaker 3: Never take a drink from a stranger, because who would

1279
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 3: disagree with that, you know what I'm saying.

1280
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 4: So it depends.

1281
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff lovet for definition. I just

1282
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 3: think the way he framed the question makes it seem

1283
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 3: like we're on the side of some hippie, dippy, lottidy

1284
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 3: world where we don't understand that crazy shit is happening

1285
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 3: all the time. None of us is against people protecting

1286
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 3: themselves at all. We just also believe there's not enough

1287
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 3: discussion two young men about what rape is, a sexual

1288
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 3: assault is, about what consent is supposed to be situation,

1289
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 3: and I think that I think those are the things

1290
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 3: that get glossed over in these discussions. And if we're

1291
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 3: measuring which discussions need to be had the most, it's

1292
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 3: the ones with the boys because we don't have them.

1293
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 6: No, the girls always always always get this conversation.

1294
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 3: All. Yeah, we've had way too many, Like we've had

1295
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 3: guests on shows when we talked about this and to

1296
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 3: a to a man we don't like dudes will tell

1297
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 3: you we.

1298
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 4: Don't have these conversations.

1299
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 3: No, every little girl has had the don't get raped conversations.

1300
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 4: Yes, every little girl ever.

1301
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 6: No matter if he overpowers and as a woman is

1302
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 6: it's very insulting because you go, well, I did everything

1303
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 6: that quote unquote I was supposed to be. I was.

1304
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 6: I was quote unquote clothed right, I was quote unquote

1305
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 6: walk away a partner. I was quote unquote you know,

1306
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 6: I wasn't with strangers or whatever it may be. And

1307
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 6: I still got raped. What else can I do to

1308
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Speaker 6: prevent myself from being overpowered by somebody that's stronger than me.

1309
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 5: What can I do other than that motherfucker is just

1310
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 5: not supposed to do that?

1311
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, I don't.

1312
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Speaker 3: And and especially when we cover articles where people literally

1313
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 3: are saying these girls aren't getting raped, yes, Like, like

1314
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 3: that's crazy to me and I it's weird that anybody

1315
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 3: would listen to us on the show and they come

1316
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 3: away thinking that we believe women shouldn't protect themselves and

1317
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 3: that we are, you know, somehow living in this world

1318
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 3: where we don't think that that that we think we're

1319
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 3: living in a perfect world quote unquote, or where we

1320
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 3: have an issue with with women protecting themselves. We're saying,

1321
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 3: uh that women already do a good job of protecting themselves. Uh,

1322
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: people still out here raping yes, they are that shit.

1323
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:51,959
Speaker 3: It's unacceptable and and and and to me especially being

1324
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 3: also sorry not to cut you out here, I don't

1325
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: give a funk. Like if she didn't protect herself, then

1326
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 3: what am I not? So the thing, this dirty raping

1327
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 3: motherfucker should be castraight in and thrown into prison somewhere?

1328
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 5: Am I?

1329
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 4: Is it okay?

1330
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 8: Then?

1331
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, Like I wonder, like where do

1332
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,959
Speaker 3: where does the point go to when people say ship

1333
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 3: like this, because it's like, okay, cool. Now we have

1334
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 3: a situation where a woman got too drunk and uh

1335
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 3: passed out and some do raped her.

1336
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 4: Now what should he nothing should happen to him?

1337
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 6: Or what?

1338
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 5: Yeah? Does she deserve it?

1339
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 6: And and and and and and and The thing that

1340
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 6: rittery pisces me off and makes me upset when it

1341
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 6: comes to this is just the simple fact that once

1342
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 6: you get down to it, and once you begin to

1343
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 6: really talk to people about the nuances of rape and

1344
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 6: rape culture and things like that, different people have their different,

1345
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 6: different definitions of what rape is. And that's the problem

1346
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 6: in itself. Women have definition of rape and men have

1347
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 6: a definition not.

1348
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 4: Even all women. Nope, I reject that.

1349
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 3: No, listen, just listen before you even get go off

1350
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 3: on it. It's a cultural thing. Is not a out

1351
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 3: just women versus men. It is cultural. Half of the

1352
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 3: people that went in on that girl in that town

1353
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 3: in Maryville were fucking women.

1354
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 4: Like they were like, basically, this is what sex is.

1355
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 3: This is what I You know, it's problematic because we

1356
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 3: pass it down to both genders.

1357
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Speaker 4: Even as a victim. People are being taught like, you're

1358
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 4: not a victim. This is sex.

1359
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 3: Sometimes a guy gotta take it. Sometimes you just shouldn't

1360
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 3: have been out with the football team. Just happens, you know,

1361
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,479
Speaker 3: this is sex. Your your consent was optional in this case,

1362
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 3: your consent was you had a drink, you know, So

1363
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 3: that that's not even just a women have a definition.

1364
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 4: Men have a definition. That's a like society has a

1365
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 4: definition of.

1366
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 6: What rape is, and a society has a definition of

1367
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 6: what sex is. And when it himes to sex, a

1368
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 6: woman's option of whether or not she want to put

1369
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 6: her pussy on its optional and.

1370
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Speaker 5: I for a lot of people.

1371
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 3: Obviously, yeah, and especially when people throw in like alcohol

1372
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, because that's a cultural problem, Like

1373
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 3: our culture is way too casual about alcohol and this

1374
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 3: effects way too casual, you know what I mean, Because

1375
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 3: I also think like and I know it's a sound controversial,

1376
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 3: and I don't mean for it to sound, but I

1377
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 3: also think that these guys who have this mentality are

1378
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 3: as much a victim of the culture pushing this down,

1379
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like they are of they

1380
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 3: are they It's kind of like what I said about

1381
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 3: racist people, where it's like you haven't being made a

1382
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 3: less less of a human being, you lack some humanity

1383
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 3: because you bought into this bullshit, like you're not a

1384
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 3: complete person. You should Like I don't know how you

1385
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 3: fix or repair these people, Like I don't know what

1386
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 3: I personally, I just lock them.

1387
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 4: Up, throw them away, you know, electric and killing whatever.

1388
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 3: But they also are fucked up because so much of

1389
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 3: society is like it's it's a woman fault.

1390
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 4: Dog, she was walking down the streets, she needs to

1391
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 4: get raped. What's what's the problem.

1392
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 5: And the thing is, I.

1393
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 6: Agree, it is a cultural uh thing, and it's something

1394
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 6: that UH is kind of passed down to men and

1395
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 6: women as far as sex and sexuality. And like you said,

1396
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 6: when you throw but but but and I guess for me,

1397
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 6: my mind frame when it comes to. It is very

1398
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 6: cut and dry. Just don't motherfucking rate me and and

1399
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 6: consent for me. It's not an option.

1400
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean all right, I mean I think I

1401
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 3: think most people agree with that, yes, and that listen

1402
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 3: to us anyway. I don't even like, I don't even like.

1403
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 3: I just don't want to straw man this guy into

1404
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 3: saying that that's what he's saying. I don't think that's

1405
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 3: what he's said. And I just put it that way.

1406
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to.

1407
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 3: Like defend his ass, but you put me in a

1408
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 3: situation where I have to be like that, that's not

1409
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 3: what he said.

1410
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

1411
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 6: And and and and to and to an extent, I

1412
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 6: do when once you we explained it, I have a

1413
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 6: better definition of it. And it's one of those things where, yes,

1414
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 6: women are always taught what to do and what not

1415
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 6: to do and how to stop. But when is the

1416
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 6: conversation you're gonna be people that rape be accountable for

1417
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 6: their action, and people that rape ire told not to rape.

1418
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 5: It's always women protect yourself.

1419
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 3: It's the sentence stars And I don't think it's a

1420
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 3: bad thing to tell women to protect yourself from dirt,

1421
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 3: bad raping motherfuckers. Neither do we, Nobody does. Nobody thinks

1422
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 3: it was a bad I don't think it's a bad

1423
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,959
Speaker 3: thing to say, Hey man, don't walk down the street

1424
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 3: with money hang out your pocket. I don't think it's

1425
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 3: a bad thing to say, don't go to a crackhouse

1426
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 3: at four in the morning. I don't think it's a

1427
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 3: bad thing to say, don't live in this neighborhood it's dangerous.

1428
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 3: I don't think any of these are bad things quote

1429
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 3: unquote to say. But that doesn't mean I don't want

1430
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 3: to change the neighborhood. That doesn't mean when you get robbed,

1431
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 3: I just go see it's your fault, motherfucker. That like,

1432
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 3: it's more to it than just simply like protect yourself.

1433
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 4: That's the end of it. That's the end of the discussion.

1434
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 3: And we have never said that anyone shouldn't not protect themselves, period,

1435
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 3: whatever precautions they need to take. I do recognize the

1436
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 3: world as fucked up. So just don't please don't write

1437
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 3: us saying shit like that.

1438
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 4: That's all.

1439
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 3: Shaana rights in teen chill, Hey, Rod and Karen, leave

1440
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: chill alone. I'll ride for chill now more than ever.

1441
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 3: Listen to episode five seventy eight on feminism. I have

1442
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: to say that I understand exactly what Chill is saying,

1443
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: and I completely agree. I post this question on social

1444
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 3: media recently, and I think it's pertinent here. At what

1445
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 3: point did feminism become only an avenue for liberation of women?

1446
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 3: For instance, I would consider myself a labor activist, and

1447
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 3: I fight for a living way for everyone. This means

1448
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 3: that women should not make less than men. I don't

1449
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 3: need feminism to fight for this. Black liberation organizations work

1450
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 3: tirelessly to protect Black women from rape. They didn't need

1451
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 3: feminism for this.

1452
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 5: And I have a question why is it? And we

1453
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 5: roger about this, So why does it have to be

1454
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 5: when it comes to things? Why does it have to

1455
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 5: be a separation.

1456
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 6: Why can't I be a feminist like like feminists and

1457
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 6: stand up for labor rights. Why can't I be a

1458
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 6: feminist and stand up for rape rights. Why can't I

1459
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 6: be a feminist and stand up for equal rights? Why

1460
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 6: can't I be for feminists and stand up for gay rights.

1461
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 6: It's one of those things where, for some reason, once

1462
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 6: you start combining it and the funny thing, The funny

1463
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 6: thing is this, when you talk to most people.

1464
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 5: Let's just say a married woman. She's a woman.

1465
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 6: She's married, and let's say she has a children, so

1466
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 6: she's a woman, she's a wife, and she's a mother.

1467
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 6: She's all three of these things, but at the roots,

1468
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 6: she's still the same person. And I feel like that

1469
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 6: sometimes with labels and hats. Most people in their life

1470
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 6: are called and labeled multiple things, and they could do

1471
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 6: multiple things all at the same time, and don't consider

1472
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 6: each individual thing a separate item.

1473
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 5: They can switch from one thing to the other.

1474
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 6: So my thing is like, why is there a big

1475
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 6: thing when you try to combine it and say I'm

1476
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 6: a feminism and I'm this. I fight for civil rights

1477
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 6: and I'm this, I fight for this, and I'm bad.

1478
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 6: People go, no, no, no, no, you can't mix the

1479
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,799
Speaker 6: carrits and the p's whatsoever. Like I don't see anything

1480
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 6: wrong with with with combining certain things that you stand for.

1481
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get to either or either. And this

1482
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 3: is like, like I said, it's all framing because and

1483
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 3: I knew what happens. One of the reasons is, like

1484
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 3: I know why a lot of shows don't discuss stuff

1485
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 3: like this is because they're afraid that people are gonna

1486
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 3: hear what they want to hear, write in and.

1487
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 4: Say what they want to say, and it's not it's like, well,

1488
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 4: I didn't say that.

1489
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 8: I like.

1490
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 5: That was the thing.

1491
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 3: A lot of the conversation that I was having with

1492
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 3: Chill was there's no need to be like fuck feminism

1493
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 3: because it's not against these things. So even in the

1494
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 3: framing of this sentence, you know this this paragraph, it

1495
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 3: is not feminists isn't against labor activism either, you know

1496
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 3: what I mean.

1497
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 4: And feminism isn't exactly just for women or just for

1498
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 4: men either.

1499
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 3: Like, to be quite honest, like feminism can also help

1500
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 3: men in a lot of ways by because the idea

1501
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: is that women are weak, women are less than feminist,

1502
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 3: feminine traits are less than. So it's the reason that

1503
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 3: people look down on gay men for certain mannerisms or

1504
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 3: anything that you know, is seen as a woman is weaker.

1505
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 4: Certain men are called girly.

1506
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 3: Men aren't able to express certain emotions because you're considered

1507
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 3: less than because it's a woman's emotion. Therefore it is

1508
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 3: less than. So that's not just men women, that's not

1509
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 3: just like, that's everybody. Not to mention how many trans

1510
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 3: issues fall into that. How many you know, how many

1511
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 3: gay rights issues fall into that, and you don't have

1512
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 3: to wear a hat of it's feminism or nothing else.

1513
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 4: Maybe some people have framed it that way, but I'm

1514
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 4: not framing it that way.

1515
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 3: Either, And you know, since we're having the discussions, so yes,

1516
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 3: since we're having a discussion, I just want to be

1517
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 3: clear about it. You you might not feel that you

1518
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 3: need feminism for anything. I don't think you need it

1519
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 3: for anything that you do in in your life.

1520
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 4: You don't have to.

1521
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 3: But at the same time, if someone labels themselves a

1522
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 3: feminist and they're helping you in your cause, is that bad?

1523
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 3: Would you turn them away? Would you if someone showed

1524
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 3: up and said, the people at this plant refuse to

1525
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 3: pay women an equal wage for the same work that

1526
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 3: a man does, and you say, well, I'm an equal

1527
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 3: wage activist, that's what I'm here for. And then they go, okay,

1528
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 3: well I'm a feminist and I want to join your

1529
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 3: cause and help you. Are you gonna say get the

1530
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 3: fuck away from here, this ain't about feminism or would you?

1531
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm asking this question genuinely. Yeah, I don't

1532
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 3: know what Shanda would say, but would you turn them away.

1533
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 3: I mean, like, how deep does the discuss go? Because

1534
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 3: I don't feel like it's got to be either or

1535
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 3: man either. Speaking of what it's chill, callbat yo, what's up?

1536
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 6: Chill?

1537
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 12: Okay? See god you mother sun it up again. But

1538
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 12: that's real quick, real quick, rode what you're saying. But

1539
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 12: the thing is saying too, like you know, why can

1540
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 12: you not be a finished because of what you're just saying.

1541
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 12: It's like feminism. It's like you're putting yourself in a

1542
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 12: box and that while you're using that to define for

1543
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 12: gender people Like you said, if you can be a

1544
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 12: feminist and still fight for gay right, or if you

1545
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 12: can be a feminist and still fight for civil rights

1546
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 12: or this is that? Why not just be all inclusive anyway?

1547
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 12: Because I mean, why put a wavel on yourself that

1548
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 12: you know it's nothing else alone, it's gonna separate from

1549
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 12: gonna make attention to your cause or whatever. You know,

1550
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 12: like you say, all the things that attach to being femline,

1551
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 12: like you say, gay men and all that stuff, and

1552
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 12: you know they're they're fine from because they're seeing a

1553
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 12: feminism feminists, uh, you know, feminine or whatever this is.

1554
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 10: Feminists all those levels.

1555
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 12: All they're doing around is putting you in a fucking

1556
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 12: box into a certain point.

1557
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 9: They're limiting you.

1558
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 10: Well, then if you if you just come out and

1559
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 10: just speak on all. Right, we're talking no Rod, I'm

1560
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 10: not gonna get into it, but if you just come

1561
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 10: out and speak on it, because I.

1562
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 12: Mean, what's the point, right If they're gonna be a feminist.

1563
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 10: Okay, fine, they're gonna fight for women's right, Okay, fine,

1564
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 10: but if it's gonna be a seminus with Torsto's down

1565
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 10: for gay rights, and like I said, blah blah, why

1566
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 10: not just be for all rights for the get go?

1567
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 10: You know, nowfore you won't you won't be pigeonholed. Okay,

1568
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 10: if people won't use your label against you, you know

1569
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 10: what I'm saying, first of all, and then second of all,

1570
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 10: it's like, come on, it's like you will eliminate the

1571
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 10: middle man. You can just get out the box and

1572
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 10: just stop fighting for what's real off top, but all

1573
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 10: that other red pape and and and and other bullshit.

1574
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 10: I mean, that's that's all I want to say. I mean,

1575
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 10: But anyway, what was the email? What was the emailer saying?

1576
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 6: Uh?

1577
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 12: Shield is great?

1578
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 6: Uh?

1579
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 12: Continue, please, thank you, have a nice day.

1580
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 9: All right.

1581
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 3: But yeah, So what I was saying was I don't

1582
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 3: see feminism necessarily as something that has to be either

1583
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 3: or even like, I think part of the discussion that

1584
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 3: I noticed that was a little off is.

1585
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 4: I think, uh, and I think we're just gonna have

1586
01:14:59,560 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 4: to disagree.

1587
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 3: But when people say, well, if you approach this as

1588
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 3: such and such, well, in Shana's email, she's saying, well,

1589
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 3: I'm a labor activist. Well why even enable yourself a

1590
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 3: labor activist. Aren't you limiting yourself to just labor? Why

1591
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 3: not just say you're a humanist and show up to

1592
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 3: fight for this living wage stuff?

1593
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1594
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 3: But you have to put a label on it in

1595
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 3: order for people to even understand what you're about. Like,

1596
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 3: it's not it's it's like a necessity. We don't live

1597
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: in a world where you can just show up and

1598
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 3: go I'm a humanist and people go, oh, okay, Well

1599
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 3: I know what that means. If you show up like

1600
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 3: at any cause and go I'm a humanist, people are

1601
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 3: gonna go, okay, well what the fuck are you doing here? Well,

1602
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 3: I'm here for the equal living living wage. So you're

1603
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 3: a labor activist or you're like what are you? What

1604
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 3: are a minimum wage equalists?

1605
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 6: What do you? You know?

1606
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 4: I just think that's the world we live in. I

1607
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 4: don't think.

1608
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 3: If we lived in a world where you could just

1609
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 3: show up say I'm a humanist and that's the end

1610
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 3: of it, people would you know. But when you say

1611
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 3: black liberation organizations, are they living living in it? Living

1612
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 3: in themselves to just black liberation? You know, like does

1613
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 3: does does this mean that if they won't help people

1614
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 3: that have a uh, that that that need uh to

1615
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 3: have a living wage, but they aren't black?

1616
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,799
Speaker 4: What about the people that are helped by the movements

1617
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 4: that they have?

1618
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 6: What? You know?

1619
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 7: Uh?

1620
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,480
Speaker 3: If it like such like say you're you get everybody's

1621
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 3: uh wages uh equal at a certain place, Well, maybe

1622
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:37,440
Speaker 3: women weren't getting paid, minorities weren't getting paid, uh, homosexuals

1623
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 3: weren't being paid. Like you, you can kind of help

1624
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 3: a lot of people, even if you just have a

1625
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 3: singular cause that you're there for. You know, I just

1626
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 3: it just seems weird that people pick feminists to be

1627
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 3: like no, not you like, I'll be a living I'll

1628
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 3: be a labor activist, But feminists. Fuck that, Like, that's

1629
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 3: completely different. So also Rod asked for names. I'm a historian.

1630
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 3: I've got names. MLK started out fighting for rights for

1631
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 3: black people. During this he repeatedly stated that women were

1632
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 3: central to our movement. Before he died, well he was

1633
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 3: fucking them before he died. He had a practical fight

1634
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 3: for all human beings. He spoke out against the Vietnam Wars,

1635
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 3: started the Poor People's Campaign, which was a movement about

1636
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 3: global poverty. The Black Panther Party is heralded as the

1637
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 3: epitome of Black power, but they are documented. They have

1638
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 3: documented alliances with white organization. For the record, that was

1639
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 3: the Black Panther Party is not a name of a leader.

1640
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 3: But okay, they had several leaders in the Black Panther Party,

1641
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 3: not just one, you know what I mean. So there's that,

1642
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 3: But I you know, that's besides point who were anti

1643
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 3: war and anti party. Not to mention Huey Newton pinning

1644
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 3: the statement in supporter gay liberation and women's liberation, that

1645
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 3: sounds like human rights to me.

1646
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that might sound like it. They didn't. None of

1647
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 4: those people call themselves humanist.

1648
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 3: All those people had some label like all of them

1649
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 3: man it's just how people explain themselves in the world.

1650
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 3: You can't just show up, I'm humanists, Okay, nigger, get

1651
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 3: back in the cell. Like like, I like, I feel

1652
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 3: like people are being very idealistic about the conditions in

1653
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 3: which these movements were started in And when people say, well,

1654
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 3: why don't you just start on this, it's like, because

1655
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 3: the world wasn't set up the way it is today.

1656
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 3: Now you have certain freedoms. It was it was actually

1657
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 3: very oppressive for groups of people. And when you're oppressing

1658
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 3: a group of people, they have to come up with

1659
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 3: a movement for that group.

1660
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 7: You know.

1661
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 3: It's not it's not like you say I want to

1662
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 3: exclude everybody that's not black. It's not like MOK says,

1663
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 3: oh you're white and you're showing up to help us.

1664
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 4: Fuck you, you know. He's like. So, I feel like

1665
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 4: it's people are framing it very very biasedly.

1666
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 6: Man Like.

1667
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 3: It's just I don't think that it's a true history

1668
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 3: of how these movements start. Now, all that being said,

1669
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 3: I understand the problems that people have these movements, but

1670
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 3: when people label or when they level these same accusations

1671
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 3: at black movements, most of us would be like, fuck

1672
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 3: you you don't know what you're talking about, that's right.

1673
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 5: So it's not because we have the label of being black.

1674
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 3: Right, Like even now, when people try to use mok's

1675
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 3: legacy to detract from liberal points of view.

1676
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 4: Republicans do it all the time.

1677
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 3: They try to co opt MLK and people, and then

1678
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 3: people all of a sudden they're like, no, he was

1679
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 3: a black man for black rights black But but when

1680
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 3: Republicans do the same tactic. And the reason I caution

1681
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 3: against the arguments that Chill uses, the argument that Shana

1682
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 3: uses to kind of detract from feminism, the reason that

1683
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 3: I have to like push back against it is because

1684
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 3: it's the same exact argument that many biggots use to

1685
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 3: keep other people from prosperous. You know, It's like if

1686
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 3: you say, listen, I am with the NAACP, and we

1687
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 3: are here because uh, there's discrimination against black people when

1688
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 3: it comes to housing. There's a lot of people that go, oh,

1689
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 3: so why don't y'all for the discrimination against anybody that

1690
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 3: got housing. So it's just the colored people they can't

1691
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 3: get housing that y'all want to help. Y'all don't want

1692
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 3: to help. I mean that's poor white people. Uh does

1693
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 3: gay people, that's the and then all of a sudden,

1694
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 3: it's like they are bringing that ship up to distract

1695
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 3: from the idea of helping and from the idea that

1696
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 3: there's a problem. They don't even want to acknowledge there's

1697
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 3: a problem because they would rather fight about just the name.

1698
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 3: And if you showed up and said we're from the

1699
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 3: humanist people, they'd be like, I'm a human too, No,

1700
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 3: you can't do that, like you know. So, I don't know, man,

1701
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,839
Speaker 3: Maybe if we get to a point where people respect

1702
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 3: each other's humanity, we could start with the humanist shit.

1703
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 4: But I just don't see it happening, man.

1704
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, because, like you said, a lot of the freedoms,

1705
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 6: a lot of the rights, a lot of the choices,

1706
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 6: and a lot of the voices we have today, we

1707
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 6: didn't have those voices years ago, even a lot of

1708
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 6: the freedoms that people have today. If some I didn't

1709
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 6: stand up and fight for the calls for you as

1710
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 6: a woman, for you as a black person, for you

1711
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 6: as a minority, for you as a woman, if somebody

1712
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 6: many many, many many years ago hadn't said hey, motherfucker,

1713
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 6: I'm not being treated right, I won't to stand up

1714
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 6: if people hadn't have marched, if people hadn't to protest it,

1715
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 6: if people hadn't have done the things, the rights that

1716
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 6: you have now to even say, well, I'm this and

1717
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 6: I'm that, just to have the right to say and

1718
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 6: pick and choose what you want to be, somebody had

1719
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 6: to fight for that right. And it's just for the

1720
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 6: fact that sometimes I feel as though we are so

1721
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 6: free now with certain things, and sometimes people tend to

1722
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 6: forget that it didn't always start out where it is

1723
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 6: right now.

1724
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I went back and listened to the show

1725
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 3: and like, specifically with some of the stuff in this

1726
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 3: email in mind, I was like, what did we say

1727
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 3: that would even make someone go U? Because when I

1728
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 3: said name names, she'll named MLK. But I want to know,

1729
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 3: what do you think I meant when I said name names?

1730
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

1731
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 3: Like, do you think I was just like I mean,

1732
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 3: because I didn't say that these guys didn't help anyone

1733
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 3: but the groups they but the people they were helping,

1734
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 3: the groups they were in. I would say that the

1735
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 3: movements were dictated by the power structure that was oppressing people. Yes,

1736
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 3: So it's like if MLK says I want to help

1737
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 3: globally people who are impoverished. That is because those people

1738
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 3: are impoverished that he started that movement. It wasn't just

1739
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 3: him going I'm a human, I just want to help humans, like, No,

1740
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 3: he had to go find the causes. Like there's certain

1741
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 3: like the world sent it's like the world sections out

1742
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 3: these people, not the people's sections out these worlds. So

1743
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 3: when you have people that are oppressed for whatever reason,

1744
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 3: when you have movements that start for whatever reason, it's

1745
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 3: because someone has been downtriden, it's not because they start

1746
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 3: out and it's like I'm just a woman and I

1747
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 3: don't want no help from no man, and fuck men

1748
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 3: and all this stuff. Some people might do that with feminism,

1749
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 3: you know. I'm sure there's some types about the angry

1750
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 3: feminists that are that way, but from my experience, that's

1751
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 3: not what I've seen from different people. It seems like

1752
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 3: people are like, here's an issue that might not even

1753
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 3: it might not even really pertain to women necessarily, but

1754
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 3: it'll be an issue that you know, feminists are advocating

1755
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 3: or talking about, and it doesn't necessarily mean that anyone

1756
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 3: else is excluded from joining in.

1757
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, anybody can join in and It's one of those

1758
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 6: things where it's almost like as soon as you say feminists,

1759
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 6: a lot of people here fuck men are like like

1760
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 6: when you just when you text that word. This is

1761
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 6: a lot a lot of especially a lot of dudes,

1762
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 6: and they begin to ask questions like, well, do you

1763
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 6: hate men?

1764
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 5: No, I don't hate men. I like to fuck them.

1765
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 6: Just because I say I'm a feminist does not mean

1766
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 6: I don't like men. It doesn't mean I'm a lesbian,

1767
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 6: it doesn't mean you know, and I think a lot

1768
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 6: of people over the years have took their particular experiences

1769
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 6: with feminisms a lot a lot of people that go

1770
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 6: to the extreme because you have people that are extreme right,

1771
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 6: and when you're dealing with people that are extreme, people go, well,

1772
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 6: shut the fuck up, you don't know what you're talking about,

1773
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 6: and I don't agree with you, and they'll take that

1774
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 6: extremists and try to apply that person's definition to all

1775
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 6: feminism and that and.

1776
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 4: To all feminists or all feminism.

1777
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 6: Okay, that's what I'm saying. I'm mean to say feminist.

1778
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 6: I want to apply that definition to all feminist when

1779
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 6: that's not actually true.

1780
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the same Like I said the same

1781
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 3: thing happens with like, say the New Black Panthers. People

1782
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 3: will be like, oh, fuck the New Black Panthers, blah

1783
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 3: blah blah. But dude, but it's like, would you say

1784
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 3: that about the Black Panthers in general?

1785
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 4: The old ones? Would you say that.

1786
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 3: About you know, because people on the service level will

1787
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 3: be like, oh, well, just fuck all black shit because

1788
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 3: the New Black Panthers I don't like them. It's like

1789
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 3: I feel like people do that with feminist where it's

1790
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 3: like fuck all feminists because I don't like some of them,

1791
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 3: so fuck them all.

1792
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 4: But on an.

1793
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 3: Individual level, would you call the Jayler Reed and be

1794
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 3: like fuck you, fuck all your points of view, fuck

1795
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 3: what you bring to the table, Fuck feminists, Jones, fuck

1796
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 3: Dasha fuck uh uh.

1797
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 4: You know, Like I just wonder if that's how they feel.

1798
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:10,839
Speaker 3: Like when we have a guest on as a feminist,

1799
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 3: are people really just going like fuck this person the

1800
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 3: whole fuck everything they have to say.

1801
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I doubt it, you know, And

1802
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 4: I got you to say that, you know, to that

1803
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 4: face or whatever.

1804
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 3: It's just kind of like, I don't know, that's the

1805
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 3: kind of shit I think about when we're doing the

1806
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 3: show It's like I don't feel that way about the

1807
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 3: feminists that I know, so why would I. You know,

1808
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 3: there's some that I go that person's crazy and they

1809
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 3: just having to be a feminist. Yeah, you know, I

1810
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 3: don't look at it like all feminists are crazy, they're

1811
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:37,560
Speaker 3: stop it.

1812
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 11: No they're not.

1813
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 6: And the thing about it is that when it comes

1814
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 6: to the calls and people that stands for the stands,

1815
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 6: you always need people on the front line.

1816
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 5: Like I might not be rah rah rah rah rah

1817
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 5: all the time, but there are people that need.

1818
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 6: To do that. And I just one on things where hey,

1819
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 6: if you're fighting for my rights, I support you whatever

1820
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 6: it is. If you fight for my rights, and when

1821
01:25:58,240 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 6: we are on one a court, I agree with you.

1822
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 6: But it's one of those things where it's strange once you,

1823
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:03,560
Speaker 6: like you say, when you get down to it, and

1824
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 6: you were like, well, you could be a feminist, but

1825
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 6: you can't be not another goddamn thing.

1826
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 5: I don't comprehend that.

1827
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's like, well you'll see as I read

1828
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 3: the email, but like this is a long, kind of

1829
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 3: drawn out conversation, and like I think people forgot what

1830
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 3: was said or they.

1831
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 4: Had their own points.

1832
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 3: They want to make so I think that's what happened

1833
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 3: to some of this stuff because, like the next paragraph

1834
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 3: is on an one other historical point, it was not

1835
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 3: the majority of those in power who compromise feminism's ability

1836
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 3: to expand there were white women in the history of

1837
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 3: feminism made specific choice not to fight for the rights

1838
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 3: of people of color or poor women. For the record,

1839
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 3: we said that, like Karen and I both brought that up,

1840
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 3: that like that matter. I was, I know, specifically me,

1841
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 3: I was like, it got to a point where certain

1842
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 3: rights were offered to white women and then they were like, oh, yeah,

1843
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 3: well fuck these other people, and that damage will never

1844
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:03,799
Speaker 3: be undone.

1845
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 4: I don't think, not not in my lifetime.

1846
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 3: But but that is a lot of it where it's

1847
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 3: just like, oh, Okay, I'll give my wife some rights

1848
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 3: because I'm tired of hearing her bitching at the dinner table.

1849
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 4: But Betty the maid, fuck her, fuck her people and

1850
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:22,719
Speaker 4: fucking rights.

1851
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 3: Yep, Like we're not giving black people rights, so while

1852
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 3: we skip ahead and give to give fucking women rights

1853
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,600
Speaker 3: before we give black men rights, Like that was the

1854
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 3: thinking of just in general. So I think, you know,

1855
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 3: and I don't think anyone would defend that as being

1856
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 3: a good thing, like that was terrible, and like I said,

1857
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 3: I brought it up.

1858
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 4: So it's kind of weird to be like, oh, y'all.

1859
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 3: Historically y'all, like we know, you know, for instance, welfare

1860
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 3: activist petition national feminist organizations to help women who were

1861
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 3: being exploited by the systems, and feminism said no, yeah,

1862
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 3: I we know. I have never been under the I've

1863
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 3: never been under the illusion of anything. Anything else happened.

1864
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 3: And as someone who previously called myself a black feminist

1865
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 3: and now I don't. I hate the fact that people

1866
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 3: become so combative with me when I say that is

1867
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 3: my choice not identify that way it is and we

1868
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 3: and I will say this, I did definitely made a

1869
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 3: joke of Colin uh, Colin Chill a feminist, but it

1870
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 3: was just that, just a joke. That's why we made

1871
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 3: the poll that because I just knew it just yeah,

1872
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 3: I just knew she would be like, man, fuck y'all,

1873
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 3: But it wasn't Like, honestly, I'm not labeling.

1874
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 4: You anything you don't want to be called.

1875
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 3: So if you don't want to be called a feminist,

1876
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna fucking I don't even know why or

1877
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 3: how people do that to be like ya, like honestly,

1878
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 3: to be even more of an inside joke thing.

1879
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 4: Chill went on Twitter and called me a Drake fan.

1880
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 3: The other day, like a secret Drake fan, and uh,

1881
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 3: that to me is way more offensive than calling her

1882
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 3: a secret in the closet feminists lord, and she never apologized.

1883
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 5: So you ain't gonna get one.

1884
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 4: I don't need a label to advocate for women. I

1885
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 4: am for black liberation.

1886
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,839
Speaker 3: I feel like it should be assumed that black women's liberation,

1887
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 3: including the things that are unique to a black woman,

1888
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 3: is included. Well is it assumed? Does the rest of

1889
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 3: the world assume that? No, they do not, I mean,

1890
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 3: because like you still got to go out into the rest.

1891
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 4: Of the world.

1892
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 3: But uh, anyway, but you know, and even that black liberation,

1893
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 3: I mean, Chill would say to that, why you gotta

1894
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:33,719
Speaker 3: limit yourself?

1895
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 4: Right, like, just be a human liberation person.

1896
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 3: That is the argument that people could use, Like, I

1897
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 3: think there's nothing wrong with defining exactly what your point

1898
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 3: of view is. But apparently if you put any limits on,

1899
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 3: if you label yourself at all, you limit yourself and

1900
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 3: therefore that something bad about that.

1901
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 4: I don't know I don't think anything's bad about that either.

1902
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 3: The history of feminism also assumes an antagonistic relationship between

1903
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 3: women and men. Now, I will say this. I noticed

1904
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 3: that when Karen started talking about it when I listened

1905
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,799
Speaker 3: to the show again, she immediately jumped to like, vagina's

1906
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 3: and penises, vagina's and penises, penises versus vagina's And it

1907
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 3: was very like, I don't think that's all feminism is.

1908
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 3: It's not, you know, and so I think, but other

1909
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 3: people will other people. I don't know that you don't

1910
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 3: know that, or that you don't believe that you know

1911
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 3: what I mean. That is the one of the things

1912
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 3: that has so many broad definitions. Some people might just

1913
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 3: be like, it's vagina's versus penis is the end.

1914
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 5: I know, it's not that simple thing to talk about,

1915
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 5: and it's not that could drive.

1916
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 6: But you know that.

1917
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 3: But for the record, that like, because I went back

1918
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 3: and listened to the exact start, that is exactly like

1919
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 3: you were like, well, because I have vagina, I got

1920
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 3: to do such and such and be penises is gonna

1921
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 3: run the world tell me what to do.

1922
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, I don't agree with that. Y'all

1923
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 4: need to write, Karen, I didn't say that.

1924
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 6: And and the thing about it is that a lot

1925
01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 6: of times just being a woman is just very, very

1926
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:06,560
Speaker 6: frustrating when you look out and you're going, Okay, what

1927
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 6: makes you have the right and be able to dictate

1928
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 6: and pass laws and tell me what I can and

1929
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 6: cannot do?

1930
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 5: And majority of.

1931
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 11: The time.

1932
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 5: Women do it to women, But most most of that

1933
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 5: conflict comes from men.

1934
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 6: And it's one of those things where you go, Okay,

1935
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna deal with you telling me what to

1936
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 6: do because you think you're superior to me. And that's

1937
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 6: where a lot of the root of the issues come

1938
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 6: from is where people think it's superior to another group

1939
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 6: a section of people.

1940
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 8: Right.

1941
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 3: But even the way you just framed it, I'm saying

1942
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 3: that is to me is like, this is this assumption

1943
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 3: that the only people that think that are kind of

1944
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 3: like men.

1945
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 5: And that's.

1946
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Speaker 3: Because patriarchy is when anyone thinks men are superior to

1947
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Speaker 3: women that should be dictating down to women.

1948
01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 4: There's women that think that. I think the opposite of that.

1949
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Speaker 3: So it's like when you start bringing up the whole

1950
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 3: penis versions of Johannah, there is like a lot of

1951
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 3: I think people bring up a lot of animosity and

1952
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 3: a lot of like because you're dealing with the historical

1953
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,800
Speaker 3: stereo types of feminism and we live in a world

1954
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 3: where people have assumed certain things. I really do think

1955
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 3: that people heard that and immediately jumped to ten like, oh,

1956
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 3: Karen is you know, saying this, and Karen is must

1957
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Speaker 3: believe that.

1958
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 4: And I don't know that you do, but I think

1959
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 4: that people.

1960
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Speaker 3: Immediately conjured up a whole bunch of old ass arguments

1961
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 3: because you know, we have SHANEA.

1962
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Speaker 4: Writen, and I think a lot of stuff.

1963
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 3: Chill was saying alluded to that too, where it's just

1964
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 3: like this whole men versus women type of idea.

1965
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Speaker 4: And I don't think that that's really what we're promoting here.

1966
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't know. I

1967
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 4: didn't take it from what you were saying.

1968
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 3: But honestly, I know you so I just I was like, Okay,

1969
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 3: Karen said this thing, but I know out this background,

1970
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 3: maybe other people here and they just assume the worst,

1971
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 3: you know.

1972
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't think feminism has to be about

1973
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 4: men and women fighting.

1974
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Speaker 3: I think that's terrible that it even gets to that

1975
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 3: point where it's supposed to be men versus women, And

1976
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 3: it's one of the reasons I don't bring up well

1977
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 3: penis versus foraginas, because personally, I don't think of feminism

1978
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 3: that way. You know, white first second wave feminists were

1979
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 3: specifically fighting for liberation from white men, Black women and

1980
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 3: men saying slavery work side by side. It doesn't make

1981
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 3: sense to me to adapt the antagonism among black people,

1982
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 3: and black feminists in the nineteen eighties did that, and

1983
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 3: I think that happened to feminism's disadvantage.

1984
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 4: I agree.

1985
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 3: I do think that people co opted the let's just

1986
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 3: do what these white people did thing, and it doesn't help.

1987
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 3: It doesn't help, you know. And I still like in

1988
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 3: my family, like in family gatherings and stuff, I still

1989
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 3: see a lot of infight between the men and the women.

1990
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 3: And these are this is family. This isn't even like

1991
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:01,839
Speaker 3: romantic involvements. But they will all you for hours, literally hours.

1992
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 3: It's time to go yeah about the role that women

1993
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:07,640
Speaker 3: and men and whose problem is what?

1994
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 4: And who calls what? And it is very destructive, you know.

1995
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 3: But at the same time, none of these women at

1996
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 3: my cookout and my family reunion would call themselves feminists either.

1997
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 3: So there's this damage that's been done between black men

1998
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 3: and women that's generational that I don't know how true.

1999
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 3: Now there's something there shouldn't be a difference between women's

2000
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 3: liberation and feminism, but feminism comes with a long history

2001
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 3: and a lot of baggage, not to mention, feminism is

2002
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 3: sadly tied up in the gender binary that everyone doesn't

2003
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 3: fit in.

2004
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 4: And you know what, I understand what you're saying.

2005
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 3: I think that a lot of people do believe that,

2006
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 3: and I think but at the same time, there are

2007
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 3: women who are feminists that would disagree with you to

2008
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 3: say I don't believe that now, and they called themselves,

2009
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 3: proudly call themselves feminists, but they go, I don't believe

2010
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,560
Speaker 3: that feminism is the way you just framed it, you

2011
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

2012
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 4: So like that's like, I guess.

2013
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 3: Where you and Chill are kind of being like, well,

2014
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 3: I want to do away with all of the all

2015
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 3: of the label of feminism. I'm kind of like, I

2016
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 3: don't because I know feminists that are you know, good

2017
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 3: well meaning people that don't believe that, don't believe the

2018
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 3: problematic things that that you're saying. You know, so it's

2019
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 3: like what I throw them out to do? I now

2020
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 3: tell them they're not feminist. There's something else like I

2021
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't I mean, that's a complicated ask question,

2022
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 3: and I don't really want to tell them what they

2023
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 3: can and can't believe.

2024
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Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's one of those things where, especially when

2025
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 6: it comes to labels, people label themselves and sometimes labels

2026
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 6: are put on you. And it's one of those things

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01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 6: where people feel as though if you fall on it

2028
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 6: for a certain label, they like they just attach different

2029
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 6: things with you. Just like she was saying before about

2030
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 6: about about fighting for what civil.

2031
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 5: Rights and things like that.

2032
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Speaker 6: It's a lot of people have issues with that whole genre.

2033
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 6: Who would say, you say that, well, I think this, this, that,

2034
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Speaker 6: and other. They automatically think al shopped and they automatically

2035
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 6: think Jesse Jackson. They automatically attach negativity to that. But

2036
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 6: if somebody will tell you that, you would look at

2037
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 6: them like they were crazy. You go with, that's not everybody.

2038
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 6: That's this is how feminists feel. That's not everybody.

2039
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 3: Also, Chill asked if everybody who fights for women are

2040
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 3: was feminists.

2041
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 4: The answer is no. Here's an example.

2042
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 3: Sorry to get our academic and personal I'm currently writing

2043
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 3: a dissertation on black women's domestic Black women domestic workers

2044
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,680
Speaker 3: who were labor activists and current scholarship.

2045
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Speaker 4: They are all called.

2046
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 3: Feminists, but the most famous one, Claudia Jones, stated that

2047
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Speaker 3: the issues concerned that black people were more important than

2048
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 3: issues concerning women of all races. She certainly advocated for women,

2049
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 3: but I would say that statement means that she is

2050
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 3: not a feminist. Well, I would say that that statement

2051
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 3: means that she's a feminist and also a black person

2052
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 3: that is for black liberation. I think you're drawing false

2053
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 3: ultimatums because of whatever history you have with feminism and

2054
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 3: the negative connotations that are associated with it. I don't

2055
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 3: blame you because it is problematic. Listen this what's funny

2056
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 3: about all this ship. I would never call myself a feminist.

2057
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 3: I don't want to be one. I don't even want

2058
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 3: to have these discussions. I don't want to argue about

2059
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 3: this shit. I just be like, this is good, this

2060
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 3: is bad. That's the funniest thing about all this. I

2061
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 3: don't like the labels period, like it's just not my thing.

2062
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 3: At the same time, when people embrace it, I don't

2063
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 3: feel like a certain way about them. Yet I feel

2064
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 3: like if I start being like, people need to do

2065
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 3: away with this. This this label is bad. Fuck people,

2066
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 3: you know. Like, as soon as the word came up,

2067
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 3: Chill was like, fuck feminists. I can't feel that way.

2068
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 5: No, I can't either.

2069
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 6: They sever a purpose, just like people that write for

2070
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 6: just like people who stand for civil rights. It's like

2071
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 6: people who stand for the NAACP and people that's not.

2072
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,600
Speaker 4: It's not even serving a purpose because it means a

2073
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 4: lot of different things.

2074
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 5: Now, yes it does.

2075
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 3: So when you say serve a purpose, what do you

2076
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 3: mean by that? Because some people feel one way about it,

2077
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:00,600
Speaker 3: some people feelother, you know.

2078
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 5: Some people people don't.

2079
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, some people are sex positive feminists and some aren't.

2080
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 9: Right.

2081
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 3: I don't fuck with the ones that aren't sex positive.

2082
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 3: They're not my bag of tea dog, like keep your ship.

2083
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 3: But the ones that are, I'm like, cool, I agree

2084
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:19,720
Speaker 3: with that, and I hope the most successful your ass ever. Right,

2085
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 3: So I'm just I feel like I can't throw the

2086
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 3: baby out with the bath water just to make some

2087
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,799
Speaker 3: type of hyperbolic statement of like, fuck feminism.

2088
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:32,599
Speaker 4: I don't believe that. Honestly, I don't.

2089
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 9: Now.

2090
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 3: Are there some feminist women that I don't like? Yes, yes,

2091
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 3: and fuck them forever.

2092
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 2: Dog.

2093
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:43,560
Speaker 3: It's not even like it's it's not even a protective

2094
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,719
Speaker 3: label to me. It's just there's some that I fuck

2095
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 3: with and they having to be feminists, and I will

2096
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 3: never be like, fuck y'all they friends of the show

2097
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:53,560
Speaker 3: that friends with me personally in real life, I wouldn't.

2098
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 4: Be that way.

2099
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 3: I think it's a very uh, I don't know, it's

2100
01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 3: a very aggressive stance to take either way. I think

2101
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 3: this conversation is essential, and I commend the show for

2102
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 3: having it and allow for all the contingent feelings that

2103
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 3: it brings up. And that's the problem with contemporary feminism.

2104
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 3: They aren't willing to have the hard conversations the way

2105
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 3: you had it on the show. It's more complicated than

2106
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 3: a hashtag. Keep doing what you're doing. We will keep

2107
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 3: doing the Shane or hopefully no personal feelings about our

2108
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 3: retort to this email. But yeah, I think that the

2109
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:24,839
Speaker 3: biggest thing that I would take from all this conversation

2110
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 3: is it is messy. It's a lot of shades of gray.

2111
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 3: Everybody doesn't even agree on the definition. But at the

2112
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 3: same time, I don't know how you do away with

2113
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 3: something that certain people are out there making positive differences

2114
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 3: and they call themselves feminists. And I also think it's

2115
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 3: weird that that everybody keeps making these ultimatums where you're

2116
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 3: either this.

2117
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 5: Or you're that, and you can't combine anything.

2118
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, why can't you be a feminist and be for.

2119
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 6: Black rights and beinist and be for gay rights and

2120
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 6: be a feminists and be for civil rights and be

2121
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 6: for it's rights and be a simple you know, and

2122
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 6: be for for for for for labor.

2123
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 5: You know, you have to pick a group? Why should

2124
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 5: Why do I have to pick a group?

2125
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 4: I mean maybe I don't.

2126
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 3: At the same time, I don't travel in these circles,

2127
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 3: so you might know more than me, and you might too.

2128
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 3: Maybe people are really out here like making people line

2129
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:19,559
Speaker 3: up and pick I don't know, that's true. Like one

2130
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 3: of the reasons I avoid a lot of the political

2131
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 3: activist ship that I see on Twitter and social media

2132
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 3: is because I don't want to know there. I don't

2133
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 3: want to intertwine a whole bunch of social standing with

2134
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 3: a bunch of political beliefs and ship. Yes, you know,

2135
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 3: I noticed that a lot where people are like, I

2136
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 3: have to ride for this because so and so did

2137
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 3: this for me.

2138
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 4: I won't ever beholden to that ship.

2139
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,640
Speaker 6: Yes, and just because you are you're just because you

2140
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 6: are feminist does not mean that you can say ship

2141
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 6: that I think this fucked up. And you know a

2142
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 6: lot of times people people like they have their own definition.

2143
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 3: Of it, and yeah, I just I don't want no,

2144
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 3: I'm good, I don't. I don't need to be trying

2145
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 3: to fetch your definition and shit like that. And I understand,

2146
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 3: like I said, I understand in trepidation with the term

2147
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,680
Speaker 3: I do. I just think there's some people that I'm like,

2148
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 3: that person calls themselves a feminist and they're a really

2149
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 3: good person, not even not but but and they're just

2150
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 3: a person that I would fuck with.

2151
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 4: I love the way they fight for things.

2152
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:23,560
Speaker 3: I love what they stay for, I love their positivity

2153
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 3: about certain things.

2154
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't want to see them.

2155
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to offend them by being like fuck

2156
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 3: you and fuck feminism just because it sounds like some

2157
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 3: funny shit to say, or just because there's some feminists

2158
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 3: that I don't like, true, Muslinger writes in Masculins for Life,

2159
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 3: Rod husbands in the house.

2160
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Speaker 4: Finally you did it right, my brother. You had owing

2161
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 4: a chill back on again, but you had.

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Speaker 3: Your business like a real husband, and after it was

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01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 3: all said and done, you had the women. You had

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01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 3: the women show that true disdain for women's rights through

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01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 3: heated debate. Good job, big husband.

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01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:00,120
Speaker 4: All might he.

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01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 3: The only thing that I don't understand is why you

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01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 3: let Owen talk. Well, it's hard not to, and you

2169
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 3: know he should have lost all speaking privileges when he's

2170
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:16,759
Speaker 3: had when he used homosexual molestation as a former combat a. Okay,

2171
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:20,560
Speaker 3: now to get serious ish. Oh, As much as I

2172
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:23,600
Speaker 3: hate to admit, I actually agree with Chill's point about feminism.

2173
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 3: I don't believe that any non woman who wants to

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01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 3: and is able to pass as a male is a

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01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:32,959
Speaker 3: feminist any non woman who wants.

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01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 4: To and is able to pass as male. So he

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01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:36,759
Speaker 4: doesn't believe that men can be feminists.

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01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I support women's rights whole hardly, but it's unfortunate that,

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01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 3: like most civil rights initiatives, the changes have been used

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01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 3: to decrease economic power amongst the middle class and middle

2181
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 3: or lower class labor For us. For a purely economic respective,

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01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:53,280
Speaker 3: feminism and other I mean, from a purely economic perspective,

2183
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 3: Feminism and other social music mouvements have been used to

2184
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 3: drive down the average household income adjusted for inflation for

2185
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 3: all us. You can actually track the decline in personal

2186
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 3: wealth per capital with the influx of all minority types

2187
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 3: into the work stream. Mainstream workplace which was traditionally populated

2188
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:12,760
Speaker 3: by white males that're for The demand for equal rights

2189
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:17,560
Speaker 3: for specific minority agendas typically results in decreased wages for

2190
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 3: the overall ninety nine percent. So yeah, we should just

2191
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,679
Speaker 3: nobody should ever want rights guys, because it might fuck

2192
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 3: up the white people's money and people might make less

2193
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 3: money on all on the.

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01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 4: Overall are we gonna talk about?

2195
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 6: How right?

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01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 3: So the power structure before, where it was only white

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01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 3: males that worked than the work for us was better

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01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:43,759
Speaker 3: for everybody because those white males made a lot of money.

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01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 5: M and nobody else had access to it.

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01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, this seems like a very stupid argument, but okay.

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Speaker 3: Furthermore, it has been noted that over the past decade,

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01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:55,560
Speaker 3: compensation strategies for non executive employees have been altered to

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01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 3: accommodate that they needs a women in the workplace By

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01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 3: bolstering a motion based incentives in the form of work

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01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 3: life balance initiatives.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's necessarily for women.

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01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 6: A lot.

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01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 5: And what does emotion base have to do with anything?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 4: Okay?

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01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 3: These typically favor the need of the dual income household structure,

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01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 3: which was which is expanded exponentially due to the suppression

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Speaker 3: of middle and lower class wage ranges. To reference your

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01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 3: example for episode five seventy eight, if you make a

2215
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 3: dollar to chill sixty cents for the same work, the

2216
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 3: corporate approach is the grandfather in your one dollar salary

2217
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 3: and hiring the next male and female at seventy five cent.

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01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 3: Then the male would be compensated based upon his next

2219
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,559
Speaker 3: performance review and bunk to a dollar, while the female's

2220
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 3: pay remains may stay stagnant or rise to meet the

2221
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 3: cost of living minimum.

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Speaker 4: What the okay?

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01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 8: All?

2224
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 4: Right?

2225
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 3: In a nutshell, fighting for human rights as a whole

2226
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 3: would be more beneficial to all people, not just women,

2227
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 3: because it forces us to real But honestly though, women

2228
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 3: are part of all people and NR and your same

2229
01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:01,799
Speaker 3: argument could be made, like you said, for specific minority agendas,

2230
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:06,719
Speaker 3: All agendas outside of white male news are specific minority

2231
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 3: agendas it is, so therefore, you are arguing against integrating

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01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 3: the workplace as a whole because you feel that it

2233
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 3: would change what the wage scale would be because people

2234
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 3: might lower the wage scale since they have to start

2235
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 3: paying more people. But who else's wages get But it

2236
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 3: also evens out the wage scale because there's people that

2237
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:33,799
Speaker 3: are getting paid overpaid because through artificial methods of racism

2238
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,679
Speaker 3: and sexism keeping other people from making money.

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01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 4: So what exactly are you advocating here? You know what

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 3: This is what happens when you use a lot of

2242
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 3: big words but you don't like read the synopsis dog

2243
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 3: like this is so basically, only white males should stay

2244
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:55,680
Speaker 3: in the workforce. And keep in mind, this is not

2245
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 3: what Chill was saying. I would just like to throw

2246
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,600
Speaker 3: out there because people in like Chill, I agree with

2247
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 3: you one hundred percent. Then they write out this shit

2248
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 3: and it's like Chill didn't say any of this. In

2249
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 3: a nutshell, fighting for human rights as a whole would

2250
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 3: be more beneficial to all people, not just women, because

2251
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 3: it forces us to reevaluate the entire system and cure

2252
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 3: the sickness. Oppose the feeding us medication to code with

2253
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 3: the pain to quote Obama aka President in Chief, A

2254
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:21,799
Speaker 3: rising tide raises our boats.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for making such a good episode.

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01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 3: I could have listened to that for another hour because

2257
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:27,759
Speaker 3: y'all had good, great points, especially Karen in the beginning

2258
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 3: of her rant love y'all peace all right, Muslinger, But

2259
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 3: yeah that I don't think that.

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01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:40,600
Speaker 4: Your solution is that, Like, I feel like.

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01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 3: What people are forgetting and this is the number one

2262
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 3: point that I want to make whenever these movements start,

2263
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 3: because people keep going, well, shouldn't it just be about

2264
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 3: everyone getting equal rights?

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01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 11: Right?

2266
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 4: Everyone agrees with that. It's just different approaches to it.

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01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 6: Right.

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01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 3: If you walk into these big businesses where all the

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01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 3: white males have salaries, they have for one ks, they

2270
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 3: have health care, and then you say I'm here for

2271
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 3: everyone to have equal rights, what incentive is there for

2272
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 3: them to help you anyway?

2273
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 4: They don't believe this shit.

2274
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:20,600
Speaker 3: They're doing fine, So you actually do have to galvanize

2275
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 3: the people who don't have in order to get shited done.

2276
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 3: It's just how things work. Like I don't know why, y'all.

2277
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 3: It makes it seems like y'all really think you can

2278
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:33,839
Speaker 3: just say these things and the people that are doing alright,

2279
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 3: already are going.

2280
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 5: To have compassionate if you have sympathy. It don't work

2281
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 5: like that.

2282
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 6: You have to Our society is structured where nobody gives

2283
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:47,759
Speaker 6: a fuck until money is affected. When money is affected

2284
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 6: or whatever resources is considered valuable is affected, this is

2285
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 6: where motherfuckers start looking and say, well, all we need

2286
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 6: to do shit about it. A lot of times people

2287
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,599
Speaker 6: don't give a fuck about your raise, that will give

2288
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:00,639
Speaker 6: a fuck about your.

2289
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 5: Sex, especially if they are in the group that does that,

2290
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 5: that that that changing this does not directly affect them.

2291
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 3: If I have a racist policy at my company, how

2292
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:14,800
Speaker 3: you just gonna show up and be like, I'm here

2293
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:16,599
Speaker 3: for all on behalf of all humans.

2294
01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 4: I think you need to be a better human person. Okay, yeah,

2295
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 4: what what do you want me to do?

2296
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 3: That's that's the that's the question I want you all

2297
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 3: to answer everybody that's on this human as ship, Like,

2298
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 3: when you show up to these racist places and demanding

2299
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 3: the equal same rights for everybody, what do you want

2300
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 3: them to do? Because you can't just show up saying

2301
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 3: shit do without just I think y'all should uh pay

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01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 3: everybody the same. Well, we don't have any black people

2303
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:51,559
Speaker 3: here we don't have any women here, we don't hire them,

2304
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:54,240
Speaker 3: so we are paying all the white men the same,

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01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 3: So get the fuck out, you.

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01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 5: Know, and you're not white, and we don't get right.

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01:48:59,040 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 4: So then what are you gonna say?

2308
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 3: Because at some point the correct at some point you

2309
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 3: have to face the fact that the thing you're gonna

2310
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,879
Speaker 3: have to say to the power structure is this specific

2311
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:13,080
Speaker 3: group and this specific group and that specific group all

2312
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:15,760
Speaker 3: deserve a chance. That's what you're gonna have to say,

2313
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 3: and all of y'all are avoiding that shit. At some

2314
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:20,560
Speaker 3: point you're gonna have to be like, I notice that

2315
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 3: y'all don't hire women because no women are gonna be there.

2316
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 6: I know this.

2317
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 3: Y'all don't hire minorities because no minorities are there. I

2318
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 3: know this, y'all don't have such a such. Now, whatever

2319
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 3: y'all want to label it, call it whatever the fuck

2320
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 3: y'all want, because I don't even care anymore.

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01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 4: But whatever y'all want to label it.

2322
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:40,240
Speaker 3: If it is affecting positive change, I am there for

2323
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 3: it me too, me to call it whatever the fuck

2324
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 3: you want.

2325
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 4: But if it's positive, I understand, and I'm.

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01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 5: Glad for you me too, because somebody, some people, some

2327
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 5: of the.

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01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:54,600
Speaker 3: People in our history that have affected positive change have

2329
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,479
Speaker 3: had to label feminists, and they have accepted it, and

2330
01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 3: they have run with it, and they have done positive

2331
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 3: things under it. I do not want to just take

2332
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 3: only the negative shit, because I feel like the same

2333
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 3: thing can be done with any single movement involving humans.

2334
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 5: Yes, it can.

2335
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 4: People have used it to do fucked up shit.

2336
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 5: Yes they have.

2337
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 3: I would not throw out their entire existence. I would

2338
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:19,719
Speaker 3: not say fuck them and everything they stand for based

2339
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 3: off of the fact that they've done some things that

2340
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:23,640
Speaker 3: I thought were problematic.

2341
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:24,640
Speaker 4: That's it.

2342
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2343
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 6: And the thing about it is this people need to

2344
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 6: realize is that, like I said, it goes back to

2345
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 6: some of the rights and rules of regulations that they

2346
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,599
Speaker 6: have in place now. For the fact that they can't

2347
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 6: fire you because you're black, somebody had to fight for that.

2348
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 6: For the fact they can't file you because you're a woman,

2349
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 6: somebody had to fight for that, For the fact that

2350
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 6: they can file you know, it's like a lot of

2351
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 6: things they have in place near not even fire.

2352
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 3: No, you're already ahead of where I'm saying. Listen, listen

2353
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 3: to what I'm saying.

2354
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 4: Very clearly.

2355
01:50:55,479 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 3: At some point the office was white men on Yes,

2356
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 3: it was How do I get it to anything else?

2357
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 3: People are talking about equal pay, equal rights, equal You

2358
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 3: didn't have access.

2359
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:10,720
Speaker 4: We're starting there.

2360
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 3: You guys are jumping ahead to like twenty thirteen, Like,

2361
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 3: why can't we discuss this?

2362
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:16,599
Speaker 4: No, start back in fucking nineteen.

2363
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 3: Oh fine, tell me how you get black people in

2364
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 3: the office when you can't fucking say the word black

2365
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:23,800
Speaker 3: because that will put a label on your shit. You

2366
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 3: can't say the word feminists or women because that will

2367
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:28,600
Speaker 3: put a label and limit what you do. How the

2368
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:32,679
Speaker 3: fuck do you help anybody if you won't just be like, yeah,

2369
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:34,240
Speaker 3: women need to get a job here.

2370
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 4: Access is everything in America. It's all.

2371
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 3: It's the only thing for a lot of hebel So

2372
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:44,720
Speaker 3: it's like, if you're trying to help people, you're going

2373
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 3: to have to talk about groups. And if you're gonna

2374
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 3: talk about groups, you're gonna have labels. If you're gonna

2375
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 3: have labels, some things are gonna be fucked up in

2376
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 3: the name of your label. Somethings are gonna be fine.

2377
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:55,679
Speaker 5: True, that's true.

2378
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 3: I just accept that, And I would not do away

2379
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 3: with a whole and whole idea because some people are

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Speaker 3: fucked up in it.

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Speaker 4: That's it, man, that's it.

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Speaker 3: MLK was fucking white women on the side. I would

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Speaker 3: not throw away all the civil rights that's.

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Speaker 5: Right, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 7: Like it.

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Speaker 3: You know there's some fucked up things that have happened

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Speaker 3: in the name of civil rights too. You know, a

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Speaker 3: lot the black church has been involved in so much homophobia,

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Speaker 3: but also so many civil rights movements. You know, people

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Speaker 3: fucked up, shit happens. I just would not throw away

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Speaker 3: an entire people behind. This is all I'm saying, man,

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Speaker 3: And I hope that other people will at least consider

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Speaker 3: what we're saying, because I'm not. I'm not protecting feminism

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Speaker 3: under some type of this is flawless, has helped everybody.

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Speaker 3: They've never fucked up. And why y'all got a problem

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Speaker 3: with it? I understand the problem. Don't want to be

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Speaker 3: called it myself. Maybe it's a nuanced, complicated discussion, but

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Speaker 3: that's the fuck we do with the blackout too.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 6: We talked about a lot of things that a lot

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Speaker 6: of people won't want to talk about, won't want to discussed,

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Speaker 6: don't want to bring up.

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Speaker 5: And the thing is that at the end of the

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Speaker 5: day and even at the end of the conversation.

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Speaker 6: It's one of those things where I enjoy having conversations

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Speaker 6: like that, but at the end cool because I've heard

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Speaker 6: you and Feenan talk to each other and I've been

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01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 6: looking like it's these niggas fighting and next thing y'all know,

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Speaker 6: y'all talk about man, you pay that GTA five year

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Speaker 6: dollar and y'all go on like it ain't nothing. It's

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Speaker 6: one of those things where when people have conversations now,

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Speaker 6: people take things personal instead of just talking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, I had a great time talking with Chill

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 3: I've enjoyed this feedback show, as frustrating as it is

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Speaker 3: to have people right in and be like, I agree

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Speaker 3: with Chill, name seven things she never said, or I

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Speaker 3: agree with y'all, I disagree with y'all name some shit

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Speaker 3: we didn't say.

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Speaker 4: It's fine, it's just what happens.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 3: This is a high button issue that just gives people

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Speaker 3: tempers flaming does and makes you think of all the

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Speaker 3: negative shit that has ever happened to you behind these labels,

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Speaker 3: so completely understand and more importantly, think all of y'all.

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Speaker 3: It did take the time out, the feedback, everybody that

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Speaker 3: wrote in, everybody that even if you have issues with

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Speaker 3: what we said, what she said, I think we can

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Speaker 3: all agree. It's one of the things we pride ourselves

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Speaker 3: on the blackout tests is that we have discussions that.

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Speaker 4: Other people will refuse to have.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's not the most academic, maybe it's not the neatest,

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Speaker 3: maybe it's not the most politically correct, but your favorite

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Speaker 3: show won't talk about it. All right, man, We'll be

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Speaker 3: back tomorrow Sunday, ten am. Until then, I love you,

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Speaker 3: h