WEBVTT - TRUMP DOESN'T REALIZE RUSSIA HAS ATTACKED POLAND - 9.11.25 0:00:04.795 --> 0:00:28.555 Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. I 0:00:28.595 --> 0:00:31.155 will get to the murder of Charlie Kirk and the 0:00:31.195 --> 0:00:35.595 hot and cold running hypocrisy coming from all directions about 0:00:35.635 --> 0:00:38.835 it and about political violence in this country in a moment. 0:00:39.155 --> 0:00:44.075 But there is a more important story. Rather than reacting 0:00:44.115 --> 0:00:47.075 to Russia's drone attack on Poland the way that he did, 0:00:47.395 --> 0:00:51.915 what's with Russia violating Poland's airspace with drones? Here we go. 0:00:52.875 --> 0:00:55.755 It could have been worse. Trump could have done the 0:00:55.835 --> 0:01:00.075 Martin Sheen bit from the movie Dead Zone, whereas the 0:01:00.115 --> 0:01:04.435 messianic psychopathic president Greg Stilson he starts World War three 0:01:04.675 --> 0:01:11.235 and announces the missiles are flying, Hallelujah, hallelujah. That would 0:01:11.275 --> 0:01:15.675 be worse, although to be fair, it would indicate that 0:01:15.715 --> 0:01:19.555 Trump had had some idea what was happening. What's with 0:01:19.675 --> 0:01:28.795 Russia violating Poland's airspace? Seriously, asshole, that's your job, you 0:01:28.955 --> 0:01:33.355 great decaying pile of burger grease. You are the one 0:01:33.395 --> 0:01:37.555 who is supposed to know what's with Russia violating Poland's airspace? 0:01:37.675 --> 0:01:41.075 And if you don't know, get the f out. Get 0:01:41.115 --> 0:01:43.795 the f out now, turn the government over to a 0:01:43.875 --> 0:01:47.595 general or an ex general or somebody who understands that 0:01:47.675 --> 0:01:51.595 your owner Putin played you again, and that when everybody, 0:01:51.955 --> 0:01:54.675 everybody in this country with an IQ greater than forty seven, 0:01:54.715 --> 0:01:57.515 had said that we have to support Ukraine because if 0:01:57.515 --> 0:02:00.155 we do not stop Putin in Ukraine, his next stop 0:02:00.155 --> 0:02:03.955 would be Poland. And you twisted your bulbous, useless face 0:02:04.155 --> 0:02:07.915 into that stupid forty five degree angled smirk. You were wrong, 0:02:08.835 --> 0:02:11.955 and everybody else in America, everybody else in America, oh, 0:02:12.035 --> 0:02:14.795 three hundred and one hundred and eleven thousand of us, 0:02:14.915 --> 0:02:22.315 we were right. Trump, There are ten thousand American troops 0:02:22.315 --> 0:02:28.875 in Poland. Did you know that what would have happened 0:02:29.955 --> 0:02:34.755 if mere debris from one of the Russian drones destroyed 0:02:34.795 --> 0:02:38.715 in mid air had hit a US base in Poland 0:02:38.915 --> 0:02:43.635 or hit one US soldier in Poland? What would you 0:02:43.715 --> 0:02:48.035 have done? Then, Trump tweet out a shrug emoji. Does 0:02:48.075 --> 0:02:52.075 it even register anymore that, even in the narrowest of 0:02:52.195 --> 0:02:56.955 possible views of this disaster, Trump is the commander in chief. 0:02:57.235 --> 0:03:03.795 He is responsible for keeping American soldiers safe in Poland. 0:03:06.755 --> 0:03:08.955 In many respects, it not only could be worse than this, 0:03:08.995 --> 0:03:13.795 Trump not realizing Putin had attacked Poland. Attacked Poland, just 0:03:13.955 --> 0:03:17.195 did his test marketing for an attempt to rebuild the 0:03:17.235 --> 0:03:21.555 nineteen eighties Soviet Union. Attacked Poland to see if he 0:03:21.595 --> 0:03:27.275 could get any response from Trump besides d ye. It 0:03:27.315 --> 0:03:29.755 not only could be worse than that, it is in 0:03:29.795 --> 0:03:33.915 fact worse than that. For the second time in two days, 0:03:34.235 --> 0:03:38.275 somebody Trump thinks is his friend on the international stage 0:03:38.595 --> 0:03:42.795 deliberately attacked an American ally, an American ally whom Trump 0:03:43.075 --> 0:03:47.475 had personally just been shown with the President of Poland 0:03:47.555 --> 0:03:50.435 was at the White House last week, and Putin sent 0:03:50.515 --> 0:03:55.955 drones over his country this week, just like the way 0:03:56.035 --> 0:03:58.395 Trump took the bribe of a free jet that'll actually 0:03:58.475 --> 0:04:01.515 cost a billion from Qatar in May, and then Netanyahu 0:04:01.595 --> 0:04:04.635 bombed Qatar this week while Katar was trying to negotiate 0:04:04.675 --> 0:04:08.715 a ceasefire, and Trump's inert response to this was to 0:04:08.755 --> 0:04:16.835 say he disapproved. Trump does not realize that Netnyahu first 0:04:17.315 --> 0:04:22.635 and now Putin have attacked him by proxy. They needed 0:04:22.635 --> 0:04:26.075 to see just how brain dead he is, how unfit 0:04:26.115 --> 0:04:29.595 for a true international crisis that they could provoke he 0:04:29.635 --> 0:04:35.955 would be. And the answer is, you have no flippin' idea. 0:04:36.435 --> 0:04:38.875 I mean in the past, Trump has at least pretended 0:04:39.115 --> 0:04:42.195 to be opposed to Putin taking over all of Western 0:04:42.195 --> 0:04:45.355 Europe and then having too much strength for us to 0:04:45.395 --> 0:04:47.995 stop him taking over anything else he wanted on any 0:04:47.995 --> 0:04:50.915 other continent he wanted. I thought there would be something, 0:04:51.435 --> 0:04:57.715 at least pretending to be furious, something that indicated he 0:04:57.795 --> 0:05:00.675 understood the grave implications of what Putin did in Poland, 0:05:01.035 --> 0:05:04.595 even if it were somehow an accident, which it was not. 0:05:07.635 --> 0:05:14.715 The Russian dictator attacked mainstream Europe Tuesday night, and Trump 0:05:15.475 --> 0:05:20.755 couldn't even be bothered to come up with good phony 0:05:21.395 --> 0:05:27.235 outrage or yet another toothless deadline by which Putin had 0:05:27.235 --> 0:05:30.835 better make nice, or or Trump will sanction Russia's import 0:05:30.875 --> 0:05:40.555 of American catchup or gold plated toilet something something. There 0:05:40.555 --> 0:05:43.715 are a thousand problems with having a deteriorating, low iq 0:05:43.835 --> 0:05:46.395 narcissist as the leader of your country, and we discover 0:05:46.435 --> 0:05:48.915 a new one every day. But this is the real problem. 0:05:49.435 --> 0:05:52.475 When the problems he has to confront are not something 0:05:52.915 --> 0:05:55.715 that come from the diseased mind of Stephen Miller nor 0:05:55.755 --> 0:05:58.995 the half baked one of Sean Hannity, he has no 0:05:59.435 --> 0:06:07.315 idea what to do Poland attacked what up debt? You 0:06:07.355 --> 0:06:09.355 would think that at some point even the drunkards and 0:06:09.435 --> 0:06:12.675 religious nuts and terminal PTSD cases who make up the 0:06:12.715 --> 0:06:15.515 Republican caucuses in the House and Senate would realize that 0:06:15.595 --> 0:06:18.475 the you know, future of the planet is at stake. 0:06:20.635 --> 0:06:22.675 You know, when all the President can come up with 0:06:23.235 --> 0:06:25.875 as a response to Russian aggression five hundred miles east 0:06:25.915 --> 0:06:30.115 of Berlin is here we go. Even the Tim Burchett's 0:06:30.115 --> 0:06:32.795 and Derek van Orden's and Tim Scott's would have to 0:06:32.835 --> 0:06:36.275 realize that, never mind the world being exponentially more at 0:06:36.355 --> 0:06:38.955 risk today than it was Tuesday afternoon, that their own 0:06:39.155 --> 0:06:42.355 asses are exponentially more at risk today than they were 0:06:42.435 --> 0:06:48.475 Tuesday afternoon. But who am I kidding? A Democratic congresswoman 0:06:48.555 --> 0:06:52.315 reminds the House yesterday that gender affirming care that they 0:06:52.355 --> 0:06:57.795 want to eliminate includes quotes, boob jobs, and botox, And 0:06:58.355 --> 0:07:03.515 she seriously and steadfastly announces that she supports boob jobs 0:07:03.515 --> 0:07:08.475 and botox. And Nancy Mays starts screaming, literally shouting on 0:07:08.515 --> 0:07:11.235 the floor of the House because she's a little sensitive 0:07:11.475 --> 0:07:16.675 that her ex communications director outed her boob job. I 0:07:16.715 --> 0:07:19.955 think the ex communications director meant the boob job they 0:07:19.955 --> 0:07:25.995 did between Nancy's ears. That's what Republicans are worried about. 0:07:27.235 --> 0:07:31.435 That and Charlie Kirk not Putin going over the edge 0:07:31.475 --> 0:07:34.515 and the Poles having to shoot down the drones. He 0:07:34.595 --> 0:07:38.075 lobbed into their country just to see if anybody, anybody 0:07:38.835 --> 0:07:49.235 would react appropriately. We were just tested. Trump failed. As 0:07:49.235 --> 0:07:51.395 always with Trump and Putin, I am reminded of Nebel, 0:07:51.475 --> 0:07:53.795 Chamberlain and Hitler, but this time it is something new. 0:07:54.715 --> 0:07:57.835 Among the dozens of stupid, gullible mistakes the pre war 0:07:57.875 --> 0:08:01.675 British Prime Minister made was his assumption that his appeasement 0:08:01.715 --> 0:08:04.955 of Hitler meant the Germans would always view russ Usha 0:08:05.595 --> 0:08:09.115 as the enemy, and if war came, Germany and England 0:08:09.115 --> 0:08:14.795 would somehow work together to fight Russia and not each other. Then, 0:08:14.915 --> 0:08:17.715 on the twenty third of August nineteen thirty nine, the 0:08:17.795 --> 0:08:22.475 Nazi foreign minister Ribbentrop flew to the Kremlin and signed 0:08:22.835 --> 0:08:28.475 a non aggression pact with the Soviets. The Malotov ribbentropped pack. 0:08:30.235 --> 0:08:32.995 Chamberlain had a trusted advisor and met even more naive 0:08:33.035 --> 0:08:36.995 than himself, Sir Horace Wilson, And the legend goes that 0:08:37.155 --> 0:08:40.795 as Molotov and ribent Trop were meeting in Moscow, Prime 0:08:40.795 --> 0:08:48.675 Minister Chamberlain was on vacation up country somewhere fishing, and 0:08:48.715 --> 0:08:53.195 that's where Horace Wilson rushed to find Chamberlain the shocking 0:08:53.235 --> 0:08:57.955 news that the Communists and the Nazis were suddenly on 0:08:57.995 --> 0:09:03.755 the same side and England was screwed. He rushed there 0:09:03.795 --> 0:09:06.795 to tell Chamberlaine this. The story goes that Wilson found 0:09:06.875 --> 0:09:13.235 Chamberlain in a stream in waist high boots, waiters trying 0:09:13.275 --> 0:09:19.875 to catch I don't know minnows. Chamberlain blandly asked him, 0:09:20.075 --> 0:09:23.795 what are you doing here, Horace, and Wilson shouted, Hitler 0:09:23.835 --> 0:09:26.555 has done a deal with Stalin. They've signed a non 0:09:26.595 --> 0:09:34.235 aggression pact, and Chamberlain laughed, Oh no, Horace, you must 0:09:34.235 --> 0:09:40.515 have misheard. Wilson then screamed, Ribbentrop is having dinner with 0:09:40.595 --> 0:09:43.835 Molotov in the Kremlin right now, And it finally sunk 0:09:43.875 --> 0:09:46.835 in on Chamberlain that for years Hitler had been playing 0:09:46.915 --> 0:09:50.795 him like the proverbial two dollars banjo. His response then 0:09:50.835 --> 0:09:57.595 supposedly was great, Scott, we must recall Parliament immediately, and 0:09:57.675 --> 0:10:01.635 Chamberlain wasn't deranged or a foreign agent, or another imbecile 0:10:01.755 --> 0:10:05.355 or in mental decline or all of the above like Trump, 0:10:05.875 --> 0:10:11.475 He was just wrong. We have a Chamberlain who doesn't 0:10:11.555 --> 0:10:17.155 even have the presence of mind to shout great Scott 0:10:18.075 --> 0:10:24.675 when Putin attacks Poland my god, Putin could launch nuclear 0:10:24.675 --> 0:10:27.075 missiles at this country, and they could interrupt Trump rereading 0:10:27.115 --> 0:10:30.555 the Epstein files while ketchup bonging, and Trump would say 0:10:30.715 --> 0:10:34.875 here we go, or I disapprove, or oh no, General, 0:10:34.955 --> 0:10:38.715 you must have misheard. And then the next sound would 0:10:38.755 --> 0:10:41.955 have been the astronauts on the space station looking out 0:10:41.955 --> 0:10:46.315 the portholes and one of them saying, hey, what was 0:10:46.355 --> 0:11:16.355 that noise down there? Speaking of nobody noticing anybody noticed 0:11:16.355 --> 0:11:19.475 that Galene Maxwell's previous lawyer went on CNN and admitted 0:11:19.475 --> 0:11:22.315 that there was a quid pro quo that got her 0:11:22.355 --> 0:11:25.795 moved from a high teen Florida prison to club fed 0:11:25.835 --> 0:11:30.995 in Texas. Anybody noticed that at all? But now there 0:11:31.075 --> 0:11:35.995 is yet another trump Stein cover up already in progress. 0:11:36.315 --> 0:11:42.475 Anybody Arthur Aidala, Maxwell's attorney in her sex trafficking trial 0:11:42.555 --> 0:11:45.115 three years ago, Yeah, that went well for both of them, 0:11:45.475 --> 0:11:49.075 goes on CNN and is asked about why Maxwell suddenly 0:11:49.115 --> 0:11:53.195 got better digs after she lied to Trump's ex lawyer, 0:11:53.275 --> 0:11:56.355 the Assistant Attorney General, about how he had nothing to 0:11:56.395 --> 0:11:59.235 do with Epstein, and how she had nothing to do 0:11:59.315 --> 0:12:02.235 with Epstein, and how nobody had nothing to do with Epstein. 0:12:03.035 --> 0:12:06.315 Mister Idala then says, when anybody who's represented by a 0:12:06.395 --> 0:12:10.195 lawyer who knows what they're doing, there's always a quid 0:12:10.235 --> 0:12:14.875 pro quo. The larger context of that quote is important, 0:12:14.875 --> 0:12:18.635 but it doesn't materially change what mister Idallas said, and 0:12:18.715 --> 0:12:23.195 everybody has foolishly skated past. He is asked and he responds, 0:12:23.275 --> 0:12:25.795 here's the full quote. Well, there are things I'm not 0:12:25.835 --> 0:12:29.835 allowed to talk about, right, So there are things I 0:12:29.875 --> 0:12:33.235 can't talk about. Obviously, I can talk in generalities. Anybody 0:12:33.275 --> 0:12:35.555 who's represented by a lawyer who knows what they're doing, 0:12:35.795 --> 0:12:38.275 goes in and meets with the government, there's always a 0:12:38.355 --> 0:12:42.075 quid pro quo. Anytime the government wants information from a citizen, 0:12:42.275 --> 0:12:44.715 the citizen says, well, I have a right to remain silent. 0:12:44.915 --> 0:12:46.315 If you want me to give up that right, I 0:12:46.355 --> 0:12:49.195 need something in return. Usually it's a plea bargain. Usually 0:12:49.275 --> 0:12:51.955 your charges are going to be lowered and your exposure. 0:12:54.715 --> 0:12:57.435 That's the confirmation that Trump has already made a deal 0:12:57.475 --> 0:13:03.595 with Klain Maxwell about the Epstein files. Never mind pardoning 0:13:03.715 --> 0:13:06.555 her later or I muting the sentence, or whatever is 0:13:06.595 --> 0:13:09.995 to come. Trump has already made a deal as part 0:13:10.035 --> 0:13:12.675 of the Trumpstein cover up. And we have as the 0:13:12.715 --> 0:13:19.355 source for this Maxwell's former attorney, which takes us to 0:13:19.395 --> 0:13:21.675 the other new Trumpstein cover up of the week, the 0:13:21.715 --> 0:13:27.435 Birthday book. A. It's his signature. I've already posted my 0:13:27.555 --> 0:13:31.875 letter from Trump online. It's the same signature. He has 0:13:31.915 --> 0:13:36.955 written thousands of suck up letters. I got one. They 0:13:36.955 --> 0:13:40.795 are all his signature. He calls in news crews now 0:13:40.795 --> 0:13:45.275 to watch him sign his name. He loves signing his name. 0:13:46.995 --> 0:13:50.715 It's his signature. There are two forms of it. One 0:13:50.795 --> 0:13:57.115 he just signs Donald and the other he signs Donald Trump. B. 0:13:57.795 --> 0:13:59.595 If you think it isn't his signature, it has to 0:13:59.635 --> 0:14:07.075 have been forged in two thousand and three by Epstein. Bah. 0:14:07.595 --> 0:14:14.275 Somebody actually suggested Epstein forge that whole disgusting drawing and 0:14:14.355 --> 0:14:19.555 maybe the whole book with obviously great prescience. I know 0:14:19.595 --> 0:14:21.875 what's gonna happen twenty two years from now, after I'm 0:14:21.875 --> 0:14:26.595 dead and Trump is re elected president. I mean the 0:14:26.635 --> 0:14:28.835 same kind of prescience that fits the Trump theory that 0:14:28.875 --> 0:14:32.355 the Obama birth certificate was faked in Hawaii in nineteen 0:14:32.435 --> 0:14:37.515 sixty one. That's some long term planning. Man, We need 0:14:37.555 --> 0:14:42.195 those guys running the government. Caro Lyon Levitt said, the 0:14:42.195 --> 0:14:44.675 book isn't fake and the letters aren't fake, but that's 0:14:44.715 --> 0:14:48.275 not Trump's signature. And you could see something new on 0:14:48.315 --> 0:14:51.795 her face as she said that. It was a pout 0:14:51.835 --> 0:14:55.715 of annoyance that she so obviously had to bullshit on 0:14:55.755 --> 0:15:02.075 his behalf once again. I posit that, for whatever perverse reason, 0:15:02.115 --> 0:15:05.075 the guy most interested in keeping the Trumpstein saga alive, 0:15:05.395 --> 0:15:08.355 because part of a predator's nature is to compulsively boast, 0:15:09.075 --> 0:15:12.475 is Trump himself quote. I don't comment on something that's 0:15:12.475 --> 0:15:15.075 a dead issue. I gave all comments to the staff. 0:15:15.275 --> 0:15:19.595 It's a dead issue. Yeah, except Trump had existed. The 0:15:19.675 --> 0:15:23.195 letter from him to Epstein didn't exist. Not I've seen it. 0:15:23.195 --> 0:15:29.155 It's a fake. Jeffrey had that printed up. It didn't exist. Oh, 0:15:29.235 --> 0:15:33.395 it exists, but it's not his signature. But it exists, 0:15:33.435 --> 0:15:35.635 But it didn't exist, but it's not his signature. But 0:15:36.515 --> 0:15:39.715 On and on and on. It's a dead issue. The 0:15:39.755 --> 0:15:41.995 only dead issue around here is the naive belief that 0:15:42.035 --> 0:15:46.635 Trump isn't the star of the Epstein files. Trump can't 0:15:46.675 --> 0:15:49.275 help himself. The other day he said crime in Washington 0:15:49.315 --> 0:15:52.275 would be literally down to zero if only they stopped 0:15:52.475 --> 0:15:55.755 calling those problems that a man and wife have in 0:15:55.795 --> 0:16:01.675 the home crimes, in other words, decriminalized domestic violence. A 0:16:01.715 --> 0:16:06.075 call to decriminalize domestic violence is a look for a 0:16:06.075 --> 0:16:09.195 guy who buried his first wife out back on the 0:16:09.235 --> 0:16:16.675 golf course. The magas who actually cared about the Epstein 0:16:16.795 --> 0:16:21.635 prosecution for whatever reason, Tom Massey and such are still 0:16:21.675 --> 0:16:23.595 pushing to force a House vote to release all the 0:16:23.635 --> 0:16:25.995 DOJ files, a vote by the end of the month. 0:16:26.835 --> 0:16:30.315 Mike Johnson, you know, Mike Trump was an FBI informant, 0:16:30.355 --> 0:16:32.155 But I want to emphasize I never said Trump was 0:16:32.155 --> 0:16:37.275 an FBI informant. Johnson. He can manipulate the rules to 0:16:37.315 --> 0:16:40.715 prevent that vote as is about to happen on that day, 0:16:40.715 --> 0:16:43.675 which of course will only inflame the case again and 0:16:43.715 --> 0:16:47.755 anew at the end of his month. It's as if 0:16:47.835 --> 0:16:50.355 Trump is planning ahead to make sure this story never 0:16:50.395 --> 0:16:56.715 goes away. And once again some of the denials are hilarious. 0:16:56.755 --> 0:16:59.275 You'd think with this much of a story they would 0:16:59.275 --> 0:17:02.635 have worked on them. Just take a day and everybody 0:17:02.635 --> 0:17:06.475 come up with a good denial. President Trump's legal team 0:17:06.515 --> 0:17:12.035 will continue to aggressively pursue litigation, Levitt wrote, that does 0:17:12.075 --> 0:17:17.275 not mean they are suing about this story. Continue to 0:17:17.315 --> 0:17:25.515 aggressively pursue litigation about what and anyway in this story 0:17:25.515 --> 0:17:28.195 they can't sue. There's discovery. And never mind Trump being 0:17:28.235 --> 0:17:34.555 deposed about Epstein and girls. Any records, any records, any letters, 0:17:35.075 --> 0:17:38.475 anything on a computer somewhere would immediately be in the 0:17:38.515 --> 0:17:44.515 hands of Rupert Murdoch. Then there was the denial from 0:17:44.555 --> 0:17:48.275 Congressman Derrick Van Orden, whose CTE seems to be getting worse. 0:17:49.035 --> 0:17:54.235 He called the signature the book the drawing a quote fallacy. 0:17:55.235 --> 0:17:57.915 Fallacy is not only the wrong word. A fallacy is 0:17:57.955 --> 0:18:01.555 an erroneous belief, not a fake item of some kind. 0:18:01.835 --> 0:18:07.235 But fallacy is also a partial hominem for the word phallic, 0:18:09.395 --> 0:18:15.355 nice Freudian slip. Derek, And most interestingly, did you see 0:18:15.395 --> 0:18:19.515 any defense of Trump about this book, about his poem 0:18:19.555 --> 0:18:23.995 about the drawing, about the signature, from his children, from 0:18:24.035 --> 0:18:28.675 his wife, from his friends if he has any. The 0:18:28.715 --> 0:18:31.955 only time the family factored into this was when my 0:18:31.995 --> 0:18:35.715 former ESPN colleague Molly Knight finished the week's adventures in 0:18:35.755 --> 0:18:41.595 trumpstein Land with the searing most that this was an 0:18:41.595 --> 0:18:46.155 awful tough way for Don Junior to find out that 0:18:46.315 --> 0:19:00.795 his dad does two send birthday cards. Lastly, no, I'm 0:19:00.835 --> 0:19:07.155 not in favor of shooting commentators. I'm a commentator, but 0:19:07.235 --> 0:19:12.635 my god, can we stop with the hypocrisy about this. 0:19:12.635 --> 0:19:17.835 This is America. All we have done for virtually all 0:19:17.875 --> 0:19:25.355 of our history isshoot political opponents. The biggest politically based 0:19:25.475 --> 0:19:30.275 entertainment hit of this century is a play about Alexander Hamilton, 0:19:32.515 --> 0:19:36.075 who was shot by the vice president of the United States. 0:19:40.115 --> 0:19:45.035 Add to that two hundred and twenty year legacy, this 0:19:45.235 --> 0:19:48.835 new America that MAGA wanted, where the military is politicized 0:19:48.955 --> 0:19:52.515 and politics are militarized, and the fact that Trump has 0:19:52.515 --> 0:19:57.235 spent the last decade stochastically encouraging terrorism against and assassination 0:19:57.395 --> 0:20:01.835 of his opponents, where conservatives repeatedly call for the killing 0:20:01.835 --> 0:20:06.155 of Trump's opponents. I mean, Trump was shot a year ago, 0:20:06.435 --> 0:20:09.955 and not one of his supporters was willing to support 0:20:10.395 --> 0:20:16.115 meaningful gun restrictions. Well, guns have no place in America. 0:20:16.475 --> 0:20:18.835 We might as well be a gun on the flag. 0:20:20.395 --> 0:20:22.755 So you can have many reactions to the death of 0:20:22.875 --> 0:20:26.995 Charlie Kirk, and I hope sorrow and disgust are among 0:20:27.075 --> 0:20:29.955 them for you, as they are for me. But what 0:20:30.035 --> 0:20:33.915 should not be among them is surprise. And again, you 0:20:33.955 --> 0:20:38.395 can be utterly opposed to shooting people without repeating America's 0:20:38.435 --> 0:20:41.955 age old lie to itself, that comforting lie that violence 0:20:41.995 --> 0:20:44.715 has no part in our political system. It is woven 0:20:44.755 --> 0:20:49.515 in as surely as the stars on the flag. Sorry, 0:20:51.115 --> 0:20:55.835 are you opposed to this? I am say you're opposed 0:20:55.835 --> 0:21:03.515 to it. Don't pretend this is some great shock for 0:21:03.555 --> 0:21:06.435 the record, To be fair, I don't think anybody shouted 0:21:06.555 --> 0:21:13.635 kill yourself at me in public since seventeen, maybe eighteen. 0:21:15.555 --> 0:21:17.275 But do you think the death threats to me have 0:21:17.315 --> 0:21:22.435 ever stopped the ones that started in two thousand and six. 0:21:24.795 --> 0:21:30.355 They have not, and each one of them has not 0:21:30.515 --> 0:21:35.395 surprised me. We've had forty six different presidents, and four 0:21:35.435 --> 0:21:37.555 were killed by guns, and a fifth was injured by 0:21:37.555 --> 0:21:40.115 a gun, and two were shot while campaigning to return 0:21:40.155 --> 0:21:43.235 to office, and at least twelve others were the targets 0:21:43.235 --> 0:21:47.915 of credible assassination plots, almost always involving guns. That's nineteen 0:21:49.195 --> 0:21:53.675 hell Gerald Ford was shot at from close range twice 0:21:53.795 --> 0:21:57.955 in a span of seventeen days. Fifty years ago. This month, 0:22:01.275 --> 0:22:03.875 pick any day on your calendar, and it's the anniversary 0:22:03.915 --> 0:22:06.395 of somebody getting shot or shot at in the political 0:22:06.475 --> 0:22:12.155 environment of this country. And what have we had in 0:22:12.195 --> 0:22:14.595 this country during those times when we haven't just had 0:22:14.635 --> 0:22:17.835 a president or politician shot or shot at, or a 0:22:17.835 --> 0:22:21.355 commentator shot or shot at, we've had a constant, escalating 0:22:21.355 --> 0:22:24.555 call for violence and murder. And the latest rage among 0:22:24.675 --> 0:22:32.075 right wing commentators public executions quote, death penalty should be public, 0:22:32.275 --> 0:22:35.315 should be quick, it should be televised. I think at 0:22:35.355 --> 0:22:39.675 a certain age it's an initiation. One commentator said in 0:22:39.715 --> 0:22:43.115 February of last year. He proposed making kids above the 0:22:43.195 --> 0:22:48.475 age of twelve watch making them watch public executions. He 0:22:48.595 --> 0:22:54.315 suggested guillotines be used. He suggested pay per view television 0:22:54.395 --> 0:22:58.515 of these things sponsored by Coca Cola, and he wanted 0:22:58.555 --> 0:23:02.315 to broaden the definition of capital offenses. The same commentator 0:23:02.355 --> 0:23:08.275 also wanted the death penalty for opposing Trump. Quote. As 0:23:08.315 --> 0:23:10.315 far as other death penalties, I think what some of 0:23:10.355 --> 0:23:12.915 those guys did to Donald Trump to use the instruments 0:23:12.915 --> 0:23:16.595 of government to destroy the constitutional order that should be 0:23:16.755 --> 0:23:22.355 under consideration. And the same commentator thought it was just 0:23:22.435 --> 0:23:26.475 too bad that there's this estimated three hundred and ninety 0:23:26.595 --> 0:23:29.995 three million guns in this country and that there would 0:23:30.075 --> 0:23:33.475 be gun deaths always, but that that was a fair 0:23:33.635 --> 0:23:37.435 trade off because that was the way to protect the 0:23:37.475 --> 0:23:41.955 Second Amendment. And that quote and the one before it, 0:23:41.995 --> 0:23:47.355 and the one before that, those all are from Charlie Kirk. 0:23:48.755 --> 0:23:50.835 This is from April fifth, twenty twenty three. 0:23:51.275 --> 0:23:53.475 You will never live in a society when you have 0:23:53.515 --> 0:23:55.755 an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. 0:23:56.075 --> 0:23:59.555 That is nonsense, it's drivel. But I am I think 0:23:59.595 --> 0:24:02.395 it's I think it's worth it. I think it's worth 0:24:02.435 --> 0:24:05.995 to have a cost of fortunately some gun debts every 0:24:06.035 --> 0:24:08.955 single year so that we can have the Second Amendment 0:24:08.995 --> 0:24:12.195 to protect our other God given rights. That is a 0:24:12.275 --> 0:24:16.515 prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They 0:24:16.555 --> 0:24:18.235 live in a complete alternate universe. 0:24:18.795 --> 0:24:22.755 Charlie Kirk, April five, twenty twenty three. Did he deserve 0:24:22.835 --> 0:24:26.995 to get shot because he said that? No? I have 0:24:27.035 --> 0:24:29.715 a very ask not for whom the bell tolls. It 0:24:29.795 --> 0:24:33.635 tolls for the assessment of this situation, particularly when it 0:24:33.635 --> 0:24:39.275 comes to political commentators. No, we should not kill commentators 0:24:39.555 --> 0:24:43.915 with guns. We should not kill presidents with guns. We 0:24:43.915 --> 0:24:50.155 should not kill Americans with guns. Say it, dedicate yourself 0:24:50.155 --> 0:24:53.235 to it, Live it, act to make America into the 0:24:53.315 --> 0:24:56.995 other place, maybe for the first time in two hundred years. 0:24:57.235 --> 0:25:04.515 But please, the cliches and the empty words and the 0:25:04.715 --> 0:25:07.795 how could this happen in America? And we are in 0:25:07.835 --> 0:25:11.195 a bad place and it's getting worse. They are meaningless. 0:25:12.715 --> 0:25:15.555 We have always been in this place. They are as 0:25:15.635 --> 0:25:21.675 meaningless words as are the insulting fallbacks about thoughts and prayers. 0:25:23.395 --> 0:25:26.395 I wish it were otherwise. In many ways I have 0:25:26.475 --> 0:25:29.995 dedicated my life to trying to make it otherwise. But 0:25:31.835 --> 0:25:40.235 this is who we are. This is Countdown with Keith 0:25:40.395 --> 0:26:06.995 Oberman still ahead on this edition of Countdown twenty four years. 0:26:08.355 --> 0:26:11.315 Using the old midpoint theory of making your jaw drop 0:26:11.355 --> 0:26:17.315 about how long ago something actually was twenty four years 0:26:18.395 --> 0:26:23.715 since nine eleven, The midpoint theory notes that twenty four 0:26:23.795 --> 0:26:28.075 years before nine to eleven would have been September eleventh, 0:26:28.915 --> 0:26:34.515 nineteen seventy seven, I was eighteen, Carter was president. I 0:26:34.555 --> 0:26:38.995 was in college covering World Trade Center future hero Amon 0:26:39.075 --> 0:26:42.515 mckenay as he starred in lacrosse and football. He was 0:26:42.555 --> 0:26:45.995 only twenty two. I covered nine to eleven for forty 0:26:46.075 --> 0:26:49.595 days without a break, on TV, on radio locally, and 0:26:49.675 --> 0:26:51.595 on networks. And I don't know how many people I 0:26:51.675 --> 0:26:54.275 met or stories I covered on the streets of New 0:26:54.355 --> 0:26:58.435 York in those stricken months. But for all the time 0:26:58.595 --> 0:27:03.515 since one guy who that day did not get closer 0:27:03.555 --> 0:27:09.395 than seventy five blocks away from ground zero, his story 0:27:09.955 --> 0:27:13.675 still resonates with me in the way no other story 0:27:13.675 --> 0:27:17.195 from that day does. Let me tell you about Thomas Reyes, 0:27:17.795 --> 0:27:21.435 the man who wasn't there. Next in things I promise 0:27:21.515 --> 0:27:24.035 not to tell first, believe it or not, there's still 0:27:24.075 --> 0:27:26.515 more new idiots to talk about the roundup of the miscrants, 0:27:26.515 --> 0:27:30.195 morons and dunning Krueger effects specimens who constitute today's other 0:27:31.035 --> 0:27:38.755 worst persons in the world, the bronze worse. Remember when J. V. 0:27:38.995 --> 0:27:43.595 Vance wrote quote, killing cartel members who poison our fellow 0:27:43.715 --> 0:27:48.435 citizens is the highest and best use of our military. Well, 0:27:48.475 --> 0:27:50.955 he was raked over the coals for that, and appropriately so, 0:27:51.275 --> 0:27:56.755 except by someone named Jennifer M. Greenberg, who retweeted this 0:27:57.035 --> 0:28:01.075 and added it would be wise for those criticizing jd 0:28:01.235 --> 0:28:04.075 Vance to recall that his mother was a drug addict 0:28:04.155 --> 0:28:06.795 who nearly died mu little times right in front of him. 0:28:07.235 --> 0:28:10.635 This issue is extremely personal to him and he cannot 0:28:10.675 --> 0:28:16.195 be expected to have any sympathy with cartels. Okay, look, 0:28:16.355 --> 0:28:18.515 I get it. We all have something in our lives 0:28:18.515 --> 0:28:21.435 that we view out of proportion, and it's a good 0:28:21.475 --> 0:28:24.515 thing that we do that advocating for something that is 0:28:24.555 --> 0:28:27.875 not the most important thing in the world or the 0:28:27.955 --> 0:28:32.315 most important factor in how the world should be conducted. 0:28:33.555 --> 0:28:36.995 Having people advocate for these things is essential, or these 0:28:37.035 --> 0:28:40.995 things will never get addressed or done or even known about. 0:28:41.835 --> 0:28:45.755 And this is not to diminish addiction or opioids or 0:28:45.755 --> 0:28:49.635 fentanyl or the damage that they can do secondhand to 0:28:49.755 --> 0:28:53.595 a child if their parents succumbs to these things. But 0:28:53.755 --> 0:28:57.715 functioning in the real world, being a real human being, 0:28:57.795 --> 0:29:00.635 is knowing when the greater issue you are dealing with 0:29:01.075 --> 0:29:06.075 is so large and your personal responsibility for that greater 0:29:06.195 --> 0:29:09.595 issue is so large that you have to for a 0:29:09.715 --> 0:29:13.555 moment put your own history aside or at minimum, you 0:29:13.595 --> 0:29:15.875 have to not let it be the decisive part of 0:29:15.915 --> 0:29:20.275 your actions or even of your public pronouncements. For JD. Vance, 0:29:20.355 --> 0:29:22.955 who I think is a failed I think is an 0:29:22.955 --> 0:29:28.115 irreparably failed human being. I grieve about his mother. For JD. Vance, 0:29:28.195 --> 0:29:30.835 Vice President of the United States, you do not have 0:29:30.955 --> 0:29:35.675 the right to violate the constitution turn the US military 0:29:35.995 --> 0:29:38.595 into a death squad against people who may have been 0:29:38.635 --> 0:29:41.475 criminals and may have just been guys on a boat. 0:29:41.755 --> 0:29:44.955 And you certainly do not have the right to glory 0:29:45.035 --> 0:29:48.635 in the war crime you have just participated in because 0:29:48.755 --> 0:29:53.195 of what happened to your mother. War crime, mister Vance, 0:29:53.355 --> 0:29:56.755 war crime, Miss Greenberg, when he goes to trial someday, 0:29:56.955 --> 0:29:59.195 they are not going to let JV. Vance off with 0:29:59.275 --> 0:30:02.795