1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Hey, Welcome back to an overtime podcast here on Colts 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Colts Audio Network. I'm Matt Taylor 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: inside the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. JJ Stangobitz 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: and Casey Vale are long as well. Today was Day 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: three of the NFL Draft. It's in the books. The 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three draft eventful for the Colts rounds one 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: through seven, and we're here today to recap a bevy 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: of picks for the Colts. They started the day with 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: eight picks. They picked up two more picks last night 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: with trades with the Raiders and the Falcons. They traded 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: once today in the fifth round with the Vikings to 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: pick up a sixth round or The Colts started today 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: without a sixth round pick. So nine total picks this afternoon, 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: twelve total for the year. That is the most picks 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard has ever made, dating back to twenty seventeen. 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: It's also the most picks for the Colts in a 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: draft year since nineteen ninety two. That year, the Colt's 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: had thirteen picks in a twelve round draft, so it's 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: the most most picks for the Colts in a seven 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: round draft. So they call that the modern draft era. 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Holy mine, let's draft. Let's dive in head first. First 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: of all, how. 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: You guys doing good? 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: Good? 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 2: We're you got some energy? 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 3: I like it. 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's one of those things. Now where 28 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: we have the list, is there so no more speculation, 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: no more where's this kind of end up? At least 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: we know the twelve guys that are at least going 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: to be here rocking a Colt uniform. Finally, indeed, are 32 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: you surprised? JJ? Just first and foremost that it was 33 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: twelve picks? The number was that high. 34 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: I think this creates a lot of competition on a 35 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: team that went four to twelve and one last year. 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: For all the excitement about Anthony Richardson and Shane Steichen 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: and what that pairing can be here in Indianapolis, you 38 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: got to remember this team is coming off a season 39 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: that they lost a lot of games, and when you 40 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: lose a lot of games, you need to, you know, 41 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: drive the competition, You need to think about changes at 42 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: certain position and really kind of put the fire to 43 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: some guys who didn't perform to the standard they needed 44 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: to last year. And I think when you look at 45 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: this draft and some of the positions the Colts picked, 46 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: there's going to be intense competition across this roster over 47 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: the next couple of months. 48 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about that. That's what the Colts needed. 49 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 1: They needed to address a lot of areas, and we'll 50 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: talk about it. Cornerback, tight end, offensive line. That's definitely 51 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: what they've done all right. Round four, Let's see how 52 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: fast we can get through these here in this overtime podcast. 53 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Blake Freeland in the fourth round, pick one oh six overall. 54 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: He was the first of nine to go off the 55 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: board today for the Colts. Six foot eight case, he 56 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: three hundred and two pounds. He's from the state of Utah. 57 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: Was a stud athlete in high school, went to BYU. 58 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: His family has great history there at BYU. His parents 59 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: were athletes there. His dad played football, his mom, Debbie, 60 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: played basketball. She's one of the best players in program history. 61 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: His sister was on the BYU track and field team. 62 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: Started off as a quarterback tight end in high school. 63 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: Beefed up obviously to play tackle there at BYU. We 64 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: talked about just you know, pounding shakes in the morning, 65 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, like those protein shakes that are like 66 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: two thousand calories each just to get him up, just 67 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: to get him bulked up to play college football. There 68 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: along the offensive line, what do you like about Blake 69 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: Friedland to add some competition, maybe play right side, maybe 70 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: play left side. He's that swing tackle that maybe the 71 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: cults have identified. 72 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: I think it was definitely a position they needed. I mean, 73 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: you heard Chris Baller talk about it that, you know, 74 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: what they did the first two days really opens up 75 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: what they can do. And I think that was part 76 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: of what you saw than being able to take you know, 77 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: kind of a you know, a guy who probably and 78 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: a lot of the mock drafts. You know, we've been 79 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: doing this process for a long time. Blake Frillon was 80 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: a guy who maybe not a fringe first round pick, 81 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: but a definite Day two possibility and a lot of 82 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: mock So he was kind of a guy who fell 83 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: and what you were able to identify early in the draft, 84 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: you were able to kind of go up and take, 85 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: you know, when you look at your board, the better 86 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: players available. I remember talking to Rick Venturi last night 87 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: before you know, everybody kind of went our separate ways 88 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: after Day two, and he said Blake Freeland was probably 89 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: the best offensive lineman that he thought left on the board. 90 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: So being able to get him definitely at ADS competition. 91 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: You know, it's one of those things we've talked about 92 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: Bernard Ryman. You know, he's still learning, so this is 93 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: another thing to kind of, you know, put some pressure 94 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: there and you always have to have depth and swing 95 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: tackle is always very important. So very like the pick. 96 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely there was a hole at the very least 97 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: for a depth tackle on this team. And Blake Freeland, 98 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: the production he had at BYU is remarkable. He allowed 99 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: two sacks his entire college career, only forty three total 100 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: pressures according to Pro Football Focus on one four and 101 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: eighteen pass rushing snaps. That is a pressure allowed rate 102 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: of three percent. That's really good. Okay, people did not 103 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: get past this kid. Now, he's obviously gonna have some 104 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: development to get here in Indianapolis. But as a guy 105 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: who could you know, maybe be that swing tackle, maybe 106 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: compete for time at you know, left tackle, or potentially 107 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: if the Colts say, hey, we're really impressed with this kid, 108 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: we got to get our best five on the on 109 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: the field. Do you kick brainon Smith inside to right 110 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: guard like he did, you know a little bit last year, 111 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: right gives you some options. I don't you know, break 112 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: Blake Freeland is six ' eight. That's pretty big for 113 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: a guard. Yeah, but who knows that, you know. Well, 114 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: we'll see what he gets here, what Tony Sperano, Junior, 115 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: Shane Steichen and the Colts want to do with him. Yeah. 116 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: And one of the themes that we're going to talk 117 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: about this entire time today on this podcast with the 118 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: guys drafted on Day three, Traits and athletics under freak athletes. 119 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: Freeland thirty seven inch vertical at the combine, highest mark 120 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: by an offensive lineman since they started tracking combine data 121 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and three, and again, for what 122 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: it's worth, he scored a nine point eight two on 123 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: the r AS. That's the relative athletics score out of 124 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: a possible ten. That's ranked twenty three out of over 125 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: twelve hundred offensive tackles from nineteen eighty seven to twenty 126 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: twenty three. So Blake Friedland was the first pick today 127 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: for the Colts in round four at a Tamawah. All right, 128 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: let's see, all right, let's see, all right, let's see 129 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: if we can get it right the first time. So 130 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: we're off on a good start here at a tamawah 131 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: at a bar a. 132 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 3: See the pronunciation that here? You know what, should we 133 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: just play this the sound. 134 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: At a tamawa at a barrack. 135 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: Can we just play the sound of the pronunciation. 136 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn your mic up over. Yeah, I think 137 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: it was pretty close at a tommiwa at a bare Yeah. Yeah, 138 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: that was pretty close at a tamawa at a bar a. 139 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: He's out of Northwestern and my guy, he's a stud 140 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, six foot two two and eighty two pounds. 141 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: This was pick one ten for the Colts in the 142 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: fourth round. This was the pick the Colts got from 143 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: the Falcons last night. A lot of people thought he 144 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: was going to go earlier in the draft, but the 145 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: Colts pounce on him. First team All state football guy 146 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: won a state title also in the shot put. He's 147 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: from Kansas City, so kind of have that home city advantage, 148 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: if you will, in the draft. Ended up being a 149 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: three year guy and a team captain at Northwestern. Big 150 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: ten honorable mention the past two years, thirteen and a 151 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 1: half sacks the last two years as a defensive tackle. 152 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: But that's the big question, JJ. Is he a defensive tackle? 153 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: Or is he a defensive end at the next level 154 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: with the Colts, because the Colts love those hybrid guys, 155 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: those tweeers as they like to say, Taekwon lewis dioa Danngbo. 156 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: You know Samson Ebacom can do that a little bit. 157 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: Where is where is this pick here at a bare 158 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: out of Northwestern in that regard. 159 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it, you know, like Dioha Dangbo is 160 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: more of a DND who can kick inside to detackle. 161 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 3: Maybe at a bare is more of a de tackle 162 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: who can kick out side to defensive end. If you 163 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: think about it that way. He said, he's more comfortable 164 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: rushing from the inside. He said, there's a little less 165 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: thinking if to do you just kind of get up 166 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: and go. I love the fit. If he slides in 167 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: as a three technique who can spell DeForest Buckner, who 168 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: can you know, get you into some different fronts, maybe 169 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: he kicks out to a five technique, can play you know, 170 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: almost anywhere you want, probably along that D line. But 171 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: for Buckner specifically, he's played the sixth most snaps of 172 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: any defensive lineman in the NFL over the last three seasons. 173 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: He's really he can get out Buck stays on the 174 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: field because he's in such great shape. He takes care 175 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: of his body really well. But I know the Colts 176 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: have wanted to get his snap count down a little 177 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: bit so there's a little less wear and tear on 178 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 3: him as the season goes on. Adding you know Tavian 179 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: Bryan in free agency now adding at a barre in 180 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: the draft accomplishes that. This dude, by the way, you 181 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: talk about athletic. I was talking to Bill Brooks h 182 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 3: after we took him. Bill Brooks weighed at the NFL 183 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: Combine about one hundred and eighty pounds. He said he 184 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: ran about a four five to two at the NFL Combine. 185 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: Back when he did it at a Barre weighs two 186 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty pounds and he outran Bill Brooks four 187 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: four nine. He became the first player in NFL combine 188 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: history to weigh at least two hundred and eighty pounds 189 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: and run a sub four or five forty yard dash. 190 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: That people that shouldn't be able to run as fast 191 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: as he does, but he does. And mad Am, I 192 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: glad he's on the Colts. 193 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad you brought that up because I 194 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: remember coming back to our booth, Matt after I was 195 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: walking through. Honestly, I was just kind of getting the 196 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: lay of the land at this moment because defensive the combine. Yeah, 197 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: there was the first they were the first group to 198 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: talk to the media. So I just wanted to kind 199 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: of go check out, get the lay of the land 200 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: at the NFL Combine. And I remember seeing this mammoth 201 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: of a human being sitting at a table and he 202 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: was his shoulders are so broad, he was almost the 203 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: size of the tables, like sitting eclipse. And I was 204 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: just like, who is this guy? And so then we 205 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: come back and we talked to Jim Nagy of the 206 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl, and that was the guy that he mentioned. 207 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: He said, you want to know a guy who is 208 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: a riser who I've been, This is the guy he mentioned. 209 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: So I'm super excited to kind of be able to 210 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: watch that development right here in front of our own two. 211 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: Eye No, I mean, you're exactly right, Jja again to 212 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: put it into perspective at a bare posted the same time, 213 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: forty yard dash wise as guys like Jordan Addison wide 214 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: receiver and fellow Colt's rookie wide receiver who they drafted 215 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: yesterday and Josh down wow, sub four five and he's 216 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: one hundred pounds heavier, like it's not fair, and and 217 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: the other athletic like, and he plays defensive, defensive tax 218 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: quarterbacks supposed to go. That's hopefully, that hopefully is what 219 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: happens exactly. 220 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: Okay, So it's not just the forty yard dash. He 221 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: had a thirty seven inch vertical. I mean, he's got 222 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: an eighty one and five eighth inch wingspan, So he's 223 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 3: like a you know, he's a condor out there with that. Yeah, 224 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: and I mean it's just this yeah, exactly, thank you 225 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: for doing that a sound ettext. It's this guy. The 226 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: athletic traits are off the charts. Nate Oli getting to 227 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: work with this guy. I can't wait to see what 228 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: Nate Oli can do with him, because you know, we 229 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: talk a lot about Anthony Richardson and kind of the 230 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 3: right that he is for Shane Steichen, this guy for 231 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 3: the Colts defense, and you know, at a bar he's 232 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: more polished. Obviously he's got forty one games of college experience, 233 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 3: but man, just those traits and the ability to mold them. 234 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: This is we've talked about it. The Colts love drafting 235 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: guys with traits because, hey, coaching staff, go develop them exactly, 236 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 3: go figure out how to use them, use them best. 237 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: And if we get really good athletes who care about 238 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: football in this building, we're gonna have a good chance 239 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 3: to succeed. 240 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: And one of the things I'm really excited to see 241 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: is for him to lock in on one spot. I mean, 242 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: I know we talk about that hybrid, but I think 243 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: that's part of where you see his his stock kind 244 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: of drop a little bit because maybe nor at Northwestern 245 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: they weren't really sure where he was best suited. So 246 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 2: maybe when you just dive in, where this is your 247 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: full time job, you do this, you can get a 248 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: better idea of where he's gonna fit better at the 249 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: next level, and hopefully those traits come through. 250 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: Here's just one last thing on this. We're talking about 251 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: how athletic this dude is. He has the one, two, three, four, 252 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 3: or sixth highest relative athletic score among Colts draft picks 253 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 3: this year at nine point seven. There are five players 254 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 3: who relative athletic score had is a higher athletic grade 255 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: than a guy who's one of the freakiest athletes in 256 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: the NFL. Immediately. It's incredible. 257 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it happened last year too. It seems 258 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: like every year when you. 259 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: Day three is based on traits, yes, based on upside 260 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: and just being a good athlete and a good football player. 261 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,119 Speaker 2: And the Colts stick to that absolutely. 262 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: They know. 263 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, if it works, you know that you 264 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 2: find something. And they definitely have found this for sure. 265 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: And he's of Nigerian descent. One more time at a 266 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: Tamawa at a bar a. 267 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 2: Yep, I think we're pretty close. 268 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: That's pretty good, all right. So he is definitely a 269 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: guy that you're excited about to see what he can 270 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: turn into from a potential standpoint, all right, Round number five, 271 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: the Colts were busy in this round. 272 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: Pick one thirty eight. 273 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: This was Darius Rush, a corner out of South Carolina. 274 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: The second corner the Colts have brought end to this 275 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: point in the draft. As we look back on it's 276 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: six foot two, one ninety eight in twenty twenty two, 277 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: play nine games, two picks, seven past breakups, fought through 278 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: a hamstring injury, and another athletic guy, Casey. What stands 279 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: up to you about Darius Rush and his profile entering 280 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: this cult second ah. 281 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: The speed. I mean, that's you. You almost were with 282 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: Juju Brince. You looked at that forty times and you said, Okay, 283 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 2: there's definitely guys that are faster. You watch Darius Rush 284 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: and he falls right into that category of guy who's 285 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: got just a four low six speed. I mean, that 286 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: is one of those things that I mean, listening to 287 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: our colleague on draft night, Rick Venturiot's one of the 288 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: things he always likes with the young guys because the 289 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: next level, the NFL is a lot different than college. 290 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: So as a young guy, you're gonna get beat every 291 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: now and then. It's going to happen. And that's why 292 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: he likes the speed when the youth comes, because you're 293 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 2: able to make up that spot. Darius Rush, he has 294 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: got that speed that jumps off the chart at you 295 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: for sure here in the fifth round. 296 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 3: And it's not just the speed, mate, but it's the length. Yeah. 297 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: Another one. 298 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Brince's six to two rush is you know six 299 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: to two maybe six three? Are we are we seeing 300 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: a changing of the guard. Well, the bolts. This is 301 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley's defense, right. He likes long athletic corners. That's 302 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: what the Legion of boom was built on back in Seattle. 303 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: Guys like Richard Sherman fit that bill, and that's what 304 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: you're seeing the Colts go after. I'm not saying any 305 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: of these guys are Richard Sherman, but the body type 306 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: and the athlete type then the Colts are targeting at 307 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: cornerback is definitely fitting for a Gus Bradley defense. Yeah, 308 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: all right, ad Pick one one in the fifth round, 309 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: that was the pick from the Raiders last night. The 310 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: Colts traded that pick to the Vikings today picked up 311 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota's round six pick two eleven overall, and the Colts 312 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: moved back to one fifty eight in the fifth round. 313 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: So the Colts start of the day with four picks 314 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: in the fifth round that did stay true. No picks 315 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: in the sixth round to begin the day, so obviously 316 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: the Colts felt comfortable trading back to still get a 317 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: player from a pool of guys that they like. So 318 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: at pick one to fifty eight it was Daniel Scott. 319 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: Casey has safety from California. He topped the Golden Bears 320 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: with three picks two forced fumbles last year twelve starts. 321 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: He was Honorable mention All pac twelve team captain last year. 322 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: That's really important to the Indianapolis Colts. And again he's 323 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: another athletic phenom. Nine point nine to three athletics score 324 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: out of ten that ranked eighth out of nine hundred 325 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: and seventy four free safeties from nineteen eighty seven to 326 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three at the combine, versatile guy asked to 327 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: do a lot in terms of the CAL defense. How 328 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: does he translate to the Colts? 329 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think with right now Rodney McLeod leeds. So 330 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: you needed to add a little bit more depth there 331 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: at safety. You can never have too much depth. That's 332 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: one thing you are always going to hear. And I like 333 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: the fact that he played about fifty games in college, 334 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: so you've got a big sample size of what he 335 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: can do. As you mentioned, team captain goes a long way, 336 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: and then he's an oldest again with the relative athletic score, 337 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: I mean off the charts, that's what you're looking for. Yeah, 338 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: older JJ didn't become a full time starter until his 339 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: fifth year at Cal. Yeah, one of those guys that 340 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: stuck it out, didn't you know? Now the trend is 341 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: I'm not playing day one. I'm out of here. 342 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit the transfer port all about four times. 343 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: He is definitely bucking that trend. Became a starter in 344 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one team captain last year, as I said, 345 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: attended the Senior Bowl. His stock really kind of blew up, 346 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: and he really helped himself in the pre draft process 347 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: from the end of his final season to cal until 348 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: the draft. He's one of those guys that you know, 349 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: did everything right, set everything right, and his potential, his 350 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: skill set and his character is what got him drafted. 351 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: Six hundred and sixty one snaps on special teams. There 352 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: is nothing wrong with drafting athletics rude experience on special teams. 353 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So again, he is an older prospect. 354 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: He's going to be twenty five years old halfway through 355 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: his rookie season with the Colts coming up next season, 356 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: all right at pick one sixty two. In the trade 357 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: from Buffalo last year, this was part of the Name 358 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: Hinz trade, the Coltier drafted Will Mallory tight end out 359 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: of Miami six foot four, two thirty nine. The Colts 360 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: crashed that tight end party. We always heard about how 361 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: good and deep the tight end class was this year, 362 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: so the Colts get involved in that and if that 363 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: last name sounds familiar to you, it should because you've 364 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: got some Indiana ties there. He is the grandson of 365 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: Bill Mallory, who coached the Hoosiers from the basically the 366 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: mid eighties to the mid nineties. You know, went to 367 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: a couple of bowl games there down in Bloomington. His father, Mike, 368 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: was a linebacker at Michigan and coached for over thirty 369 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: years in college football and the NFL. One of the 370 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: best tight ends in the history of the Miami Hurricane 371 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: football program. Casey, my question for you is, right now, 372 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: the Colts have a pretty stacked and deep tight end 373 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: room with Moelli Cox and Jelawnie Woods and Kylin Granson. 374 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: Is he more like Moali Cox, where he's good in 375 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: the running game and he's an adequate pass catcher, or 376 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: is he more like Jelannie Woods, who's just that mismatch nightmare. 377 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. That that's a really good question. That's something we're 378 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: definitely gonna find out. I think he might fall kind 379 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: of in between both, if that makes sense. I think 380 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: he kind of you know sli. I mean, he was 381 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: one of those guys he led the team in reception 382 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: or in receiving yards last year at Miami, so that 383 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: that's definitely something that kind of opened your eyes when 384 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: you think about a tight end leading the team and 385 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: receiving yards. So I'm not really sure where he's going 386 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: to fit. One of the things that we always talk 387 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: about within this this you know, tight end group, was 388 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: since you lost Jack Doyle, you've been trying to find 389 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: something in there, that guy that can be versatile and 390 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: all that stuff. So I think that's kind of what 391 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: you're trying to look for, you Jelannie Woods. You know, 392 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: he's new into the tight end group, so blocking is 393 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: something that he mentioned. He's been trying to work on 394 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: getting better. So you're trying to find kind of that tweener. 395 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm not gonna lie to you Will 396 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: Mallory's game. I haven't watched it a ton, I'm not. 397 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: You know, I've just been you know, crashing my mind 398 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: on it over the last couple hours here. But you know, 399 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: really that's one of the things we're gonna find out. 400 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 2: Is he right in between where does he fall kind 401 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: of like a Kylon grantson guy, or right. 402 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 3: There that's it? Right there? 403 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: Is that? 404 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 3: This? To me, this is competition for Kylon grantson at 405 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: the F tight end position. Now, I don't know how 406 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 3: Shane Steichen's going to use his tight ends does he 407 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: does he want more of that move tight end that 408 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: Frank Reich had with the F or does he want, 409 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 3: you know, bigger guys who can block. 410 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: I don't know. 411 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: I do know that that this is going to create 412 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 3: competition on this roster because if you read through his 413 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: profile and his athletic testing, this this screams F tight 414 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: end that kind of not the true inline guy like 415 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: a Jilani or a mo alley is. And Drew Ogletree 416 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 3: another guy who's going to be in this equation as 417 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: well for competition there. He was in line to play 418 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: a lot of snaps as an F tight end last 419 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: year before he hurt himself got hurt in training camp. 420 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: So it's the again, like I was talking about earlier, 421 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 3: a lot of competition on this team. That tight end 422 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: room is going to be very, very competitive. You've got 423 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: Pharaoh Brown in there as well, who was signed as 424 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: a free agent. That's going to be to me, I'm 425 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: looking at this tight end room and I'm saying that's 426 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: one of the position groups I am most interested to 427 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: watch in the coming weeks and months out right, Yeah, yeah. 428 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: For sure. 429 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: And you're you know, typically you can really only keep 430 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: about three guys traditionally, stereotypically on the roster. 431 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 3: I think it depends. 432 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean it, it depends, certainly. I'm just saying three four, right, 433 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, four tops. They're at the tight end position. Yeah, 434 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen catches, fifteen hundred yards and fourteen touchdowns. 435 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: His career reception and yardage total, second most by a 436 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: Miami tight end ever. So Mallory in the fold here 437 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: with the Colts pick one seventy six. This is from Dallas. 438 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: In exchange for Stefan Gilmour in the fifth round, Colts 439 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: went back to the offensive side of the ball and 440 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: draft a running back. This is Evan Hole. He's out 441 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: of Northwestern, their second wildcat in this draft class. On 442 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: Day three. Honorable mentioned guy all big ten, really good rusher, 443 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: but maybe most intriguing in the passing game. Led college 444 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: football all running backs with fifty five catches this past 445 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: season JJ and over the past two seasons eighty eight 446 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: catches for eight hundred and ten yards and four touchdowns. 447 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: And during that two year span, he was targeted over 448 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: one hundred times and had just four drops. Is this 449 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: the nim Hines replacement draft pick? 450 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 3: This is really intriguing Matane. I remember saying it on 451 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: a recent episode of the Official Colts Podcast that running 452 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 3: back was kind of sneaky need for the Colts in 453 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: this draft, where yeah, you got Jonathan Taylor, you got 454 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 3: Zach Mossy got Dean Jackson, but you know some guy, 455 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: you know, Zack moss will be an impending free agent 456 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 3: after this season. The Colt's probably going to try to 457 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 3: work something out with Jonathan Taylor, but he's also an 458 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: impending free agent. And the you know, nim Hines being 459 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 3: traded to Buffalo last year, did open up that, hey, 460 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 3: you know, we could probably use that third down pass 461 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 3: catching back. And Evan Hall, I mean, you talk about 462 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: the set of hands on this guy, I think I 463 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 3: don't think. I think he maybe had one fumble his 464 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 3: entire college career. You will not find a better pair 465 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: of hands out of the backfield in this year's draft 466 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 3: then Evan Hall. And to add him into this offense 467 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: when Shane stike And has told us what he told 468 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, the running back is your best friend as 469 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 3: a rookie for Anthony Richardson. When he gets out there, 470 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: you're running back as your best friend, giving him a 471 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 3: sure pair of hands. A guy's got some explosiveness. He 472 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: ran a four four seven forty. It's got some short 473 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: area of quickness to him. I think if I recall 474 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: his some of his athletic testing was like some of 475 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: the best among running backs, you know at the NFL combine. 476 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: This guy is an athlete, and you get the ball 477 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: in his hands, he can do some one cut stuff, 478 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: you know, put his foot in the dirt, get you know, accelerate, 479 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 3: get some speed behind him. I'm really intrigued at this pick. 480 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 2: I love that you brought up the Shane Stike and 481 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 2: you're running back at your best friend. Just think about 482 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: that Eagles team. I mean, you had I'm drawing a 483 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: blank on his name. He just left White Penn State 484 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: former Miles Sanders. Thank you, you had Miles Sanders. But 485 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 2: when you watch that playoff run, he was Kenneth Gain 486 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: with a lot of Boston Scott. It was That's the 487 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: way that Shane Steiken likes to have his offense. You don't, 488 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: I mean, so you can have multiple looks too. Smaller guys. Yes, 489 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: too smaller. That was one thing that when I saw 490 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: this pick, I said, okay, this you've got that idea 491 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: on what you saw from that Eagles offense. This just 492 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: adds a little bit more, you know, Ammo in that Arsenal. 493 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: Yes, speed Merchant four four seven forty third fastest running 494 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: back at the Senior Bowl topped out. I guess they 495 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: they track these things at the Senior Bowl. I was 496 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: unaware of this, but nineteen point eight nine miles an 497 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: hour there for the running back. 498 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: How about this nugget from Dane Brugler. Yeah, they had 499 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: to force him to sleep more because he was working 500 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 3: so hard at being a football player. That's that's in, 501 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: that's in the beast from Dane Bruglan. 502 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: Wow, imagine that they had to force him to sleep more. 503 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: On a job interview, what are your biggest weaknesses? 504 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 3: I worked so hard. I don't so hard that I 505 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 3: don't sleep. You'd rather have somebody you need to tell 506 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: you got to sleep more than somebody you get. 507 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: You tell you we got a sideles, mister Hall, get 508 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: some shut eye, all right. In the sixth round, pick 509 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: two eleven, again, this is the pick the Colts got 510 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: today by moving back with the Vikings, the Colts here 511 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: drafted Wagner defensive end Titus Leo. Not a combined guy's 512 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: got good measurables. That's again what you're picking on here 513 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: late in the draft. That's what you're going on. Just 514 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: the fourth player, ever, by the way, drafted out of 515 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: Wagner teammates in college with guys like Chris Williams. I 516 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: read where they were actually you know, kind of close, 517 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: okay at that Wagner program. So that's pretty cool. Now 518 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: their teammates here in the NFL with the Colts. Wagner, 519 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: by the way, is in Staten Island, that's in New York. 520 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: It's an FCS school. Leo back to back any C 521 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: defensive player of the year, three time first team All 522 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: Conference selection, two time captain. And again, JJ, you're you're 523 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: drafting based on traits, you're drafting based on speed four 524 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: six nine. This was a guy that tested pretty good 525 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: at his pro day. I think his pro day was 526 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: that arm and army. Yeah, you dug that up, casey 527 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: guy that was invited into the Shrine Bowl. What stands 528 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: out to you about this? You know, again we were you're. 529 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: Talking about maybe diamonds in the rough here, JJ, could 530 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: this guy potentially make the roster and compete for the 531 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 2: Colts pass rush? 532 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 3: May tet your peak physical strength? How many pull ups 533 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: could you do? 534 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: Pull ups? 535 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 536 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: Oh, probably less than ten. 537 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: Titus Leo can do thirty. 538 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: Wow, pull ups? 539 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 3: You know hard it is to do one pull up. 540 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: That's what I mean, that's what you're under ten. 541 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: I'm probably under five. He said peak physical shame, which 542 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: is not not right now right. 543 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: That's from Bruce Feldman's Freaks List. He made Bruce Feldman's 544 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: Freaks List, which is an annual ranking of the most 545 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: athletic guys in college football. And he, you know, Bruce 546 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 3: searches all over for these guys and he made this list. 547 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: He can do thirty pull ups. He can bench press 548 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 3: three hundred and seventy five pounds. Not very impressive. I 549 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 3: mean it's really not goodness. I mean, this guy so 550 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 3: his production, I know we're talking about it. It's an 551 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: FCS school, but he had thirty two and a half 552 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: tackles for a loss over the last two seasons. It's 553 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: just pretty good. Yeah, another guy, you just get those traits. 554 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 3: You drop him into Nate Alley's room and say all right, 555 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: lets see what you can do. Man. 556 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: Now, I don't want to want to compare it, but 557 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 2: it's one of those things where when EJ. Speed was 558 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: selected out of Tarlington State, we were kind of searching, 559 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: who is this guy? What's he and where's Tarlet's state? 560 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: Well there's that. There's another that also makes you wonder. 561 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: I mean Chris Williams. Obviously he's been on this Colts 562 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: roster since win twenty twenty. Yeah, yes, So I mean 563 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: that that's a good football player that has had some 564 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 2: staying power in the NFL. I'm just fascinated. 565 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: I know we're getting off on a little bit of 566 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: a tangent here, but I'm just fascinated by the Colts 567 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: and their scouting ability to find these guys agree at 568 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: places like Wagner and and that's one of the things 569 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: that you know, I remember when EJ. 570 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: Speed, that thing blew me away. And then we listened 571 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: to Titus earlier and he was recruited to play wide 572 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: receiver and then he was a tight end and then 573 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 2: it was like, well there's some injuries, so maybe we 574 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 2: can you know, switch into the defensive side. And here 575 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: he is getting draft in the NFL. So it's it's 576 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: stories like that. Those are what I love, you know, 577 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 2: especially later in the draft and you're starting to hear 578 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 2: these stories, You're just like, how cool of a story 579 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 2: is that. I want to see it pan out, And 580 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: we saw it. I mean I mentioned EJ. Speed he'd 581 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: signed a second contract here with the Colts, So hopefully 582 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: you can find a little bit of that here with 583 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: with Titus. 584 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's move on. Pick two twenty one 585 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: is where we're at right now, in the seventh round 586 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Colts. Here the Colts drafted Jalen Jones. 587 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: He's another cornerback out of Texas, A and M third 588 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: corner the Colts took in this draft, along with Julian 589 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: Brintz out of Warren, Central Indianapolis native, and Darius Rush 590 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: out of South Carolina earlier today. Another huge body six 591 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: foot two, two hundred pounds, not incredibly fast right, only 592 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: only ran a four or five nine, but had a 593 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: good seat in last year six hundred snaps, finished the season, 594 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: allowing just ten catches on nineteen targets, did not allow 595 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Also has experience playing safety and played three 596 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: years there for the Aggie. So what do you like 597 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: here about Jalen Jones JJ. 598 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean another long rangey cornerback. And again you're 599 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 3: you're just building depth in that room. You're building competition 600 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: for guys like Dallas Flowers, Isaiah Rodgers Senior on the 601 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 3: outside with Juju Brentz, with Jalen Jones, with Darius Rush 602 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: and that again. You know, I was talking about tight 603 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 3: end being an interesting competition. Cornerback to me, that's the 604 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: most interesting competition on this team now. And you wonder 605 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: there could still be a veteran maybe that comes in. Yeh. 606 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 3: That's something Chris Ballard mentioned before the draft that maybe 607 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: you still try to add some veterans. But you know, 608 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: Jalen Jones, his numbers at Texas A and M, you 609 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: don't sleep on those, right, you know, fourteen pass breakups 610 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: over his time there. That's that's a pretty good number. 611 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: He's getting his hands on a lot of those passes, 612 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: you know. From Dane Brugler. He's got a physically imposing frame, 613 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: matches up well and jump ball situations. Got a thirty 614 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: eight inch vertical another athlete who fits the bill of 615 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: what you expect now A Gus Bradley cornerback to look. 616 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: Like, Hey, one of the things I mentioned to Matt 617 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: while we're watching, you know, the final couple picks roll 618 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: in is when I look at the I was like, 619 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: if it was me in the draft room, what I 620 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: would say is, all right, our big top five year programs, 621 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: who do we have left? And that's what I would 622 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: look at. I mean, this guy has gone up against 623 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: the elite of elite college football at a very high level, 624 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: and you can get him late in the draft and 625 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: just see if I mean, that's one of the things 626 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: that I really like getting a guy out of a 627 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: school like Texas A and M who every Saturday they're 628 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: going up against top twenty five competition guys that are 629 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: being drafted. So I'm really excited to see what he 630 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: does here. 631 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 3: Another thing about him, he is a special teamer as well, 632 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: punt return and punk coverage both. 633 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: Ron Mileis he's thinking me like the draft, Yeah, he's thinking, 634 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: I can tell you I've got options now. Ron Milis 635 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: has got options. By the way, we did some crack 636 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: research while the draft was going. The Colts have selected 637 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: four defensive backs in this draft class. Last time, the 638 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: Colts drafted four DB's in the same draft was two 639 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: thousand and one. 640 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: Been a minute over twenty years now been a minute. 641 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: All right. 642 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: Lastly, here, you guys are gonna have to help me 643 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: on this one because this this pick came in right 644 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: as as we were getting ready to roll tape. Here 645 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: two thirty six in the seventh round. This is the 646 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: last pick for the Colts on the day they got this. 647 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: By the way, this pick came from a trade from 648 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers last year. Remember that right at the end 649 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: of training Grant the Stars got the Grant Stewart pick 650 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: on special teams. 651 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: Jake Witt offensive tackle Division two. Guy from northern Michigan. 652 00:30:54,800 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: Six foot seven, three ten pounds. Okay, they're two tackles 653 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: are at least six foot seven on the day. But 654 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: fascinating story. Jj former basketball player. He's from the up 655 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: in Michigan, the Upper Peninsula, as they say, originally a 656 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: basketball player and a darn good one. He was the 657 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: Upper Peninsula, Michigan, State of Michigan. Mister basketball. Wow, like 658 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: he was that good. 659 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: Played college basketball at Michigan Tech. For some reason, and 660 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll find out once we get to know him. 661 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: Gave up basketball pursued football. He transferred to Northern Michigan, 662 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: but not to play football. He just wanted to trans 663 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: regular student for the sake of transferring there. And in 664 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one gets coach to play football. Starts off 665 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: as a tight end, and then they have a really 666 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: good football program. They go to the Division two National 667 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: championship game. Halftime of that game, they've got some injuries. 668 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: Things are going haywire for their team on offense, they 669 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: move him to tackle and the rest is history. He 670 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: just becomes a stud. 671 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: It literally imagine imagine like Disney man, hey man, we're 672 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: we're out of tackles, let's go to our tight end. 673 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: Be like, go go play tackle. And now he's draft 674 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 3: Two years later, he's drafted. 675 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean, I'll be honest. I had to 676 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: ask Matt. I said, I've never heard of Northern Michigan. 677 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: I truly had never heard of that, because I mean, 678 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: this is not a stab, but you always talk about 679 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: the directional schools. It seems like they're in Michigan. That 680 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: was the one direction that I hadn't heard teams playing. 681 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: So that was a new one for me. 682 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 3: So I'm a bit I'm a bit of a draft 683 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 3: junkie when it comes to these things. And I had 684 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 3: read about this guy earlier because I was like, you know, 685 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 3: Northern Michigan, what's going on here? What? And then you 686 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 3: read into his story, You're like, this is fascinating. Yeah, 687 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: And his athleticism is just off the charts. You can 688 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: see some of the basketball traits that he has a 689 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 3: thirty seven inch vertical you know, he's got an eighty 690 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 3: and five eighth inch wingspan, thirty three and a half 691 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 3: inch arms. He ran a four to eight nine forty 692 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: yard dash at three hundred pounds. Like we talk about 693 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 3: at a boare being like people that side shouldn't move 694 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 3: like that. People Jake wits size should move like this either. 695 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 3: Let's not forget this just an incredibly explosive athlete and 696 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 3: a guy who you know, look, he's very raw. We 697 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 3: talked about Bernard Ryman last year being raw, another converted 698 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 3: tight end. They didn't go to Bernard Ryman in the 699 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: middle of a game and say we needed to go 700 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 3: play tight end. So this guy, he's raw. He's gonna 701 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 3: take some some time and patience to develop. But I 702 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: think about, you know, sometimes if you hit on one of 703 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 3: these guys like my goodness, the the the value you 704 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 3: get from them. Think about the Eagles of Jordan Mylottix. 705 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,479 Speaker 3: They took him in the Brown. He never played football 706 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 3: at all, and all of a sudden he's getting a 707 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: you know, a contract extension. He's there there, starting left tackle. 708 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: Sure there. 709 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: You never know with these guys when you're you're drafting 710 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 3: in the seventh round at pick number two, thirty six. 711 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: I love the traits of this kid, and let's see 712 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 3: if he can develop. 713 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: I love that you bring up Jordan Malatta because who 714 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: is his offensive coordinator? Oh, it's the guy this year, 715 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: Shane Steichen. So maybe there is some similarities, just like 716 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: you were thinking there as well. 717 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: Six foot seven. Now, of course he wasn't three ten 718 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: playing basketball, right. 719 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 3: He had to have No, he wasn't three to ten 720 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 3: playing tight end. 721 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly. 722 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: But he holds fascinating He holds four Michigan High School 723 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: Athletic Association state records. On top of that, he is 724 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: the up's Upper Peninsula Michigan Upper Peninsula's all time leader 725 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: in rebounds, all stayed in basketball three times and now 726 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 1: he's in the NFL. 727 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: That is so cool. Once again, adding to that Colt's 728 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: incredible basketball roster of he how to take the court. 729 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: I take their odds for sure. Joe Wright's right, mo 730 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 2: Aley Cox. I knowpe people are tired of hearing about that, 731 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: but offensive prospect here scored a nine point eight out 732 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 2: of a possible ten on the Relative Athletics Score, ranking 733 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: twenty seven out of one two and ninety three offensive 734 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: tackles from eighty seven to twenty twenty three. Welcome to 735 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: the NFL. Welcome to the Indianapolis Colts. Mister Jake Witt 736 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: from Division two Northern Michigan wrapping up here, gentlemen, let's 737 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 2: go back to the top of the draft. Anthony Richardson, 738 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 2: Julius Brints, Josh Downs, everything that happened today that we 739 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 2: just recap JJ, how much better have the Colts become 740 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 2: this weekend? I think top end talent? 741 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think. You know, with top end 742 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 3: talent you look at obviously, Anthony Richardson, top end talent. 743 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 3: We don't need to, you know, rehash all that, but 744 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: Julius Sprince really good top end talent at the cornerback position. 745 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 3: Josh Downs fits a need for this team to get 746 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 3: a little bit faster. At wide receiver. That's that's some talent. 747 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: He's got one thousand yard receiver in consecutive years at 748 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 3: North Carolina. But again, I go back to it, we'll see, 749 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 3: I think, is my answer. How much top end talent 750 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 3: the Colts had it because there's gonna be competition. Anthony 751 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: Richardson's gonna have to compete, yep, to get into games 752 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 3: early on in his career. Prince is going to be 753 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 3: part of that cornerback competition with Darius Rush, with Jalen Jones, 754 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 3: with the returning guys on this roster, and Josh Downs 755 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: is gonna have to compete with Isaiah McKenzie for snaps 756 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 3: in the snot. 757 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 2: I don't mean to interrupt you, but I think it's 758 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: fascinating that just hearing you talk, it just popped in 759 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 2: my head that the Colts today or this weekend, in 760 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: this draft, they did not draft a. 761 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: For sure day one. Yeah, you know, they all got 762 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: to earn it, sure fire. This guy plug and play. 763 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: He's in the starting lineup starting with Anthony Richardson. He's 764 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to beat out Gardner Minshew. 765 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: Well, and part of that too, if you look at 766 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: the position groups too. I mean you talk about if 767 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: you hit, if that if the answer to that question 768 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: is top end talent, absolutely yes, You've got that top 769 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 2: end talent at very key positions of need. Because when 770 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 2: you look at the way this team drafted in this 771 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: in this twenty twenty three draft, it was very impact 772 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: player impact positions. So that is one thing to watch 773 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: that if you have hit, you hit even bigger than 774 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: if it was I mean not trying to you know, 775 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: different different types of positions. These are your marquee spots 776 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 2: they drafted. All right, who's ready for a beer? 777 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: Guys? 778 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,959 Speaker 3: Ready, just one? I was about to sack. 779 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: I'll take a good six pack right now. 780 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 3: Is the plural of beer beers, but the plural of 781 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 3: de beer. 782 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: On that note, get the hell out of here. 783 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: JJ stangovitch food for thought at the end of the podcast, 784 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: I like it by Jack Handy. 785 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: That's Casey Valier as well. 786 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor, And again we'll continue to break down 787 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: the draft and more detail all next week the Official 788 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: Colts Podcast will have you locked and loaded, and then 789 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: next week too, Right is rookie Mini caamp at the 790 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: end of next week, so all these guys are going 791 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: to be here they're going to be given the playbook 792 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: and it's time to roll. Maybe next week we'll have 793 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: some answers on some undrafted free agents too that trickle 794 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: into the building. All of that to be determined, but 795 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: of course we'll have it locked and loaded and we'll 796 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: be late breaking with all of that here on the 797 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: Colts Audio Network. That's it for the Draft, but plenty 798 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: more next week, of course on the Colts Official Podcast 799 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: and the Colts Audio Network. Again for JJ Casey, I'm 800 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor. Thanks for listening all weekend long here on 801 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: overtime following each day Offthdraft on Colts dot Com and 802 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: the Colts Audio Network. 803 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 2: Have a great week. We'll talk to you soon.