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Speaker 1: Order a fresh show.

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Speaker 2: It's Kiki's Kiki all rights, the honorable a ride take

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Speaker 2: it away.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get in the court room. The gabble

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Speaker 3: has been hit. This one was sent to me on TikTok.

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Speaker 3: So you can't send me your cases on all socials

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Speaker 3: at on air?

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Speaker 1: Kiki one on air? Are you the New York thing

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Speaker 1: going to on air?

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Speaker 4: Yes, k k okay, this was it.

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Speaker 2: I gotta work on yours like Kaylin fought or excuse me,

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Speaker 2: k e l A n fu reade. She gets followers

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Speaker 2: every time I do it.

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Speaker 1: She can, she can get back.

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Speaker 2: But like.

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Speaker 1: F r E D on air.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, room.

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Speaker 1: Socials come on, come on one air, whoa, we gotta

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Speaker 1: work on it.

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Speaker 4: We gotta work.

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Speaker 1: If I say Kiki, I guarantee people being k I

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Speaker 1: K that's true.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, that's true? Do they?

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Speaker 2: And so I have to spell hers because Calen, I

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Speaker 2: mean Jesus, Caitlyn.

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Speaker 4: Carolyn, Carolyn.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you every time I say Calen for real,

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Speaker 2: Carolyn for real gets pissed.

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Speaker 1: She's like, who are these people? I don't know who?

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Speaker 4: Carolyn?

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Speaker 1: Okay, take it away? Sorry sorry, sir, oh okay.

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Speaker 4: Well that's what says, Uh, Hey, Kiki.

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Speaker 3: My name is Alyssa and I've been planning the wedding

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Speaker 3: of my dreams for the last year, and unfortunately, a

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Speaker 3: month out from my big day, I just found out

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Speaker 3: that I have the wedding photographer from hell. Like most

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Speaker 3: when planning our wedding, we've gone way over budget. So

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Speaker 3: I asked my photographer. I sent her an email and

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Speaker 3: asked her if there was any way that we can

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Speaker 3: work out a discount on her price. I told her

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Speaker 3: that since I'm the director of events for this company

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Speaker 3: that will remain nameless. She said, I can hire her

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Speaker 3: for events at my job and just overcharge the company

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Speaker 3: to make up the money she'd be willing.

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Speaker 4: To take off my wedding bill.

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Speaker 1: Oh my God.

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Speaker 3: To my surprise, declined my offer, but also decided to

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Speaker 3: drop out of my wedding altogether. Now a month away,

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Speaker 3: for I have no photographer and a very limited budget.

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Speaker 3: A few of my other vendors have been so understanding

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Speaker 3: and actually thankful for my offer to bring them more business.

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Speaker 4: Can you believe this?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so she's going to get discounts on her personal event,

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Speaker 2: her wedding, her wedding by fleecing her employer exactly, okay,

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Speaker 2: And so what I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, well not great. So I mean, here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: what do you think.

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Speaker 3: Well, Alyssa, I am going to hold your hand when

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Speaker 3: I say this is that is fraud.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's giving very much fraud because.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing where you and I worked in fast

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Speaker 3: food and we traded a sub sandwich for or you

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Speaker 3: didn't work in fast.

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Speaker 4: Food, but we have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you served, You've traded a Blockbuster video for a pizza.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, But I mean it's still stealing, but it's

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Speaker 2: like it's nice stealing. It's community I like to call

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Speaker 2: it outreach. Yeah, that's why I like to go Personally,

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Speaker 2: it was free food, but I like to call it outreach.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's community outreach.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: But to say that girl that if you give me

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Speaker 3: a discount on my wedding, I will not only book

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Speaker 3: you for my job's events, but overcharge my job to

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Speaker 3: make up the money, that's Fraudsis, And you should be

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Speaker 3: happy that this lady just decided to back out of

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Speaker 3: doing your wedding instead of reporting you to the company

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Speaker 3: that you wrote in this email, which I won't say,

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Speaker 3: but it's the overcharging for me, the audacity for me,

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Speaker 3: because also you can't go over budget on your wedding

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Speaker 3: and then make that your vendors problem.

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Speaker 2: Like no, I mean, I suppose if you go in

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Speaker 2: way over, you could go back and say, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: have to cancel you unless we can like renegotiate it, right,

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Speaker 2: Like I need the price to go down, so if

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Speaker 2: I went way over, and who knows, maybe some of

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Speaker 2: the vendors would rather have the business than not have

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Speaker 2: the business. But you guys are the Jerry eight five

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Speaker 2: say this, there are a number of people involved in hospitality,

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Speaker 2: be at a hotel, concierge, be it. I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: think of some other examples. I'm sure wedding planners. I mean,

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Speaker 2: think about this. If you're a wedding planner and you're

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Speaker 2: constantly going to this band or this DJ, or this

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Speaker 2: caterer or this venue when you go to get married,

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Speaker 2: I bet it's not uncommon that they all give you

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Speaker 2: much business, so it's kind of a nice thing to do,

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Speaker 2: or like a hotel concierge, like if you go to

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Speaker 2: somebody there that will tell you where to go eat

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Speaker 2: dinner or whatever. And the restaurants oftentimes give those guys

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Speaker 2: free food because they want you to say their restaurant.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know that that it's uncommon for them

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Speaker 2: to be favors, like if you're an event planner. But

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Speaker 2: as far as making it up on the back end

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Speaker 2: by charging your company more, Oh my god, that's that's

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Speaker 2: the part that's got to be well illegal.

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Speaker 4: That's illegal, like you should look, you could lose your

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Speaker 4: job doing that. Am I am I crazy? Because no,

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Speaker 4: not at all, thank you. That is very legal.

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Speaker 2: But like Jason, you deal with a lot of different

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Speaker 2: vendors for things, and sometimes they call you up and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: do you want to go to the answer, here's tickets

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Speaker 2: to that or whatever because they're just being nice.

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Speaker 1: It's like a relationship building. Yeah yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 1: but you're not then.

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Speaker 2: Going back to you know whomever and going, oh yeah

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Speaker 2: those tickets, those were four hundred bucks. I'm gonna need

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Speaker 2: you to pass, you know what I mean, Like, you're

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Speaker 2: not you're not fleecing the company.

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Speaker 5: Right, or someone gives you something, you know, I'm not like, oh,

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Speaker 5: submitted invoice, then we'll just cut you a check like

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Speaker 5: on the back end.

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Speaker 4: Like that's wild, that is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is insane.

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Speaker 6: That lady missing out though the photographer, Oh oh please

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Speaker 6: do tail.

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Speaker 1: She could have got more, she could have got a

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Speaker 1: lot more jobs on this lady.

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Speaker 4: But rufio, that's stealing.

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Speaker 6: She's not stealing. Somebody's stealing the The lady getting married

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Speaker 6: is stealing. But the photographer would have got all these

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Speaker 6: other jobs. She don't know where that money is coming from.

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Speaker 6: That's not on her.

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Speaker 5: She's up to this funny business there, you know, no

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Speaker 5: telling what's going to happen to the photographer. At some

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Speaker 5: point she won't get paid or won't get a check

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Speaker 5: or a mail or common or Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think it's one thing. It's to ask for a

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Speaker 2: deal because you went over budget. I think it's another

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Speaker 2: thing to say I might have to cancel you unless

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Speaker 2: we can work something out.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing.

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Speaker 2: I think it's another thing if you're in the event

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Speaker 2: planning business and you employ all these vendors all year

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Speaker 2: round for a bunch of other stuff, and you want

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Speaker 2: a deal on your wedding or you expect they're going

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Speaker 2: to hook you up a little bit. I think that's

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Speaker 2: just the way business is done. I think that's just

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Speaker 2: relationships right right. But as far as going, hey, look,

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Speaker 2: I need you to give me a deal, but I'll

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Speaker 2: make sure that my company, I'll just make sure that

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Speaker 2: we overpay you on other stuff so that it's equal.

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Speaker 1: Why do I sign not putting that on the record.

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Speaker 3: You've now made me a part of the scale because

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Speaker 3: you're telling me that you're going to overcharge this company

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Speaker 3: to give me that money.

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm just as guilty as you. Watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not my problem, that's her problem. Yeah, eight

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Speaker 2: three five, Hey Jennifer, good morning.

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Speaker 1: I got a camera. I could do it.

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Speaker 7: Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think Kiki's course, So this woman

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Speaker 2: is basically fleecing her She's an event planner for a company,

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Speaker 2: and she's saying, Hey, for my personal wedding, I need

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Speaker 2: a deal, but I'll just make the event company pay

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Speaker 2: later on other events more to make it up.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, I think that bride is being really

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Speaker 7: sketchy about it. I don't think that's right at all.

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Speaker 7: I think the photographer was completely in the right to

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Speaker 7: tell her I don't want to do anything anymore just

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Speaker 7: because photographers there aren't so much demand, Like that could

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Speaker 7: backfire on her at some point. You know what if

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Speaker 7: this bride doesn't follow through with that deal or you know,

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Speaker 7: she could be just it's not on everything.

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Speaker 2: I'd get other way of this one. Yes, what I'd

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Speaker 2: be like, no out, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then she gets fired and you never get your money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta look at this as a long game here,

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Speaker 2: Like but then again, if you don't work something out

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Speaker 2: with this woman, then she's basically telling you like, I

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Speaker 2: won't book you anymore.

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Speaker 1: So you know, but.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't want to work for a thief.

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Speaker 2: Well, but who knows, you know, maybe I'm getting maybe

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Speaker 2: if I'm a DJ and I'm getting a ton of

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Speaker 2: business from this event planner, and then she's saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: I need a deal. Maybe what I would say is,

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a deal. I don't want anything on

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Speaker 2: the back end, like, don't involve me in your shenanigans.

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Speaker 2: Like I'll give you a deal because you give me

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Speaker 2: a lot of business. But what I don't want to

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Speaker 2: be involved in is your fraud, right, Like, just pay

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Speaker 2: me normal from you know, moving forward or whatever. I'm

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Speaker 2: times a year and it can insist much money. So whatever,

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Speaker 2: but don't be I only part of your shenanigans, I.

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Speaker 1: Think is what you can.

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Speaker 7: I hope she gets like a contract with that bride.

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Speaker 7: Then it's that type of agreement because you never know.

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Speaker 7: I mean, she's willing to make a deal like that anyway,

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Speaker 7: just even on the side and be sketchy with her employer. Now,

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Speaker 7: who's to say that she's actually going to follow through

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Speaker 7: with that photographer and give her the actual business later on.

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Speaker 2: Now here's a question, Jennifer and Keiky Judge Kiky. Let's

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Speaker 2: say that this woman's like, either you give me a

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Speaker 2: deal or I don't book you anymore.

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Speaker 1: Do you go over the top?

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Speaker 2: Do you then go to this woman's boss at the

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Speaker 2: event company and go, hey, just so you know, she's

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Speaker 2: blackmailing me, just so you know, just so you know,

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Speaker 2: this woman is leveraging your company's relationships for her personal gain.

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Speaker 2: That woman's going to get fired, yes, but you you

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Speaker 2: probably will still get used because while you did throw

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Speaker 2: that girl under the bus, you also ethically did the

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Speaker 2: right thing.

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Speaker 1: Right. It's tough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't go that.

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Speaker 7: It pushed me, right, I would say the same thing.

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Speaker 7: I'm less like that bride was giving me like super

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Speaker 1: I'd probably just leave her.

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Speaker 7: Doing what she's doing because, like I said, photographers get

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Speaker 4: I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Jennifer, thank you, have a good day. But

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Speaker 2: I thought about that, like my sister's wedding planner. I

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Speaker 2: oh no, no, when's yours? And I think she probably

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Speaker 2: doesn't appreciate that question, like when's your wedding? Like your

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Speaker 2: wedding's gonna be amazing, isn't it? Like, But that was

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Speaker 2: my point, was your wedding is going to be amazing

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Speaker 2: because you do everything from five hundred thousand dollars weddings

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Speaker 2: whether it's the fancy car or the DJ or the

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Speaker 2: that you remember that and keep calling them, right, I

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Speaker 2: would do it. If I'm a caterer and this woman's

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Speaker 2: giving me hundreds of thousands of dollars one thousands of

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Speaker 2: I'll do it for free. Yeah, I mean think about it, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because you know, or what does it cost me? You know,

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Speaker 2: maybe it cost me five thousand dollars in food or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I'm making this up. Maybe it cost me ten percent

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Speaker 2: or twenty percent of what I would have made. But

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get all this business. She's never gonna call

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Speaker 1: Well, what if she doesn't use you ever again after? Well,

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Speaker 1: but that's the risk you take.

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Speaker 2: But that's but the difference here is we're not talking

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Speaker 2: We're just talking about relationship building. Hey TJ.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, how you doing right?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: Hey? What'd you want to say good morning.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I was calling every guy that kicky, what was up?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 8: But I think the fuck the photographer did exactly how

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Speaker 8: to do it, the same thing. I'd be like, no way,

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Speaker 8: because this lady, she seems like she's just so cavalier

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Speaker 8: do a business. So with a job her, you know,

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Speaker 8: she Okay, well, if I need some new you know,

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Speaker 8: you a discount or charge to you know, charge to

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Speaker 8: charge the company higher, you know, because I wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: With Yeah, no, it's not worth it.

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Speaker 2: And plus you you know what if you get pinned,

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: She walks away scott free, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, TJ, thank you. Have a great day.

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Speaker 2: Going through these texts, the jury says, the bride better

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Speaker 2: hope the photographer doesn't turn her in. See, that's what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, because I'm not a snitch. But if I

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Speaker 3: I don't know, right, she says she put this all

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Speaker 3: an email, which was not the smartest thing to do either. Listen. No,

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Speaker 3: weddings bring out the most desperate part in people sometimes, like.

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Speaker 4: It's not cheap.

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Speaker 2: Everybody wants to know they want them.

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Speaker 1: You were a scammer a little bit.

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Speaker 4: No, we can't say on air what you can do,

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Speaker 4: I know, but you can know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what was it? What was it about? What he's

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Speaker 4: Okay, you don't know.

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Speaker 2: As a wedding makeup artist. This is a text from

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Speaker 2: eight four seven. I've learned my lesson of having a

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Speaker 2: very detailed contract that states that they have to pay

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Speaker 2: even if someone doesn't show up. People are wild. Being

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Speaker 2: a vendor for a wedding is someone's job. I think

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Speaker 2: people feel like it's just hobbies or something. But to

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Speaker 2: date is just crazy. I guess my question would be, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you're like, if you were super irresponsible and you've

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Speaker 2: rider to complain, then uh, you know, to then go

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Speaker 2: your services for half.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of messed up.

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Speaker 2: But I'm sure it does happen where people have the

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Speaker 2: need you to do a few fewer people because I

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Speaker 2: don't have the money for this.

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Speaker 3: It was that part like you over spending or whatever,

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Speaker 3: over budgeting yourself, Like that's that's a you problem just

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Speaker 3: because you spend more money than you have.

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Speaker 2: You're exactly right, But what's my alternative? If I'm the

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Speaker 2: where like I'll get you in the back end and

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Speaker 2: I'll give you money you don't deserve and somebody else's

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Speaker 4: It's it's desperate times man.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it's spend. It's been decided.

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Speaker 4: Scamming girl.

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Speaker 1: Okay, go to jail.

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Speaker 2: I hit the gavel, Straight to jail, yeah straight okay

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