1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo and Alana. I must 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: say it has been a rather eventful week in the 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: baseball world, a week that was highly unanticipated. I'm talking, 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: of course, about the sudden and shocking resignation of Tony Clark, 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: the reasons he resigned, the inappropriate relationship with his sister 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: in law. Of course, the federal investigation that continues into 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: his handling of the union's finances. That investigation has been ongoing, 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: but people were saying the whole time that they never 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: expected to lead to much. We'll see about that. But 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: the way this went down and how he resigned and 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: why he resigned, Alana, I get surprised every so often, 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: not too often, by things that happened in baseball. This 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: one surprised me. 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: Well, Kin, I don't think you're alone in that. 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 3: I think it kind of sented surprising shock waves through 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: the world of baseball. And obviously the timing is interesting 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: as well, because we had thought, even before this announcement 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: of the resignation, that there was likely going to be 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: a work stoppage, a lockout, and that seems to be 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 3: a guarantee. 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: Now the union moves forward with Bruce Meyer. 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: Right that idea that there is going to be a lockout, 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: that's not changing. There is going to be a lockout. 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: And actually a lot of fans and people I know 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: who are not necessarily in the media asked me in 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: the wake of what happened here, what does this mean? 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: Does this help things along? Because Tony Clark is not out, No, 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: not at all. Tony Clark was, yes, the head of 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: the union, but Bruce Meyer is the lead negotiator and 31 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: will continue as the lead negotiator. And Bruce Meyer was 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: hired not to be Major League Baseball's friend. He was 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: hired to fight for player rights and he's going to 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: do that in the same way he did that in 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: the last CBA during the twenty twenty COVID negotiations and 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: beyond that, the players seem almost galvanized by what has 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: happened here. Now it's early and we will see how 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: they hold together. We will see how the owners hold together. 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: It's real easy to talk tough right now when we're 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: nine months away or so from the expiration of the CBA. 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: But Bruce Meyer is someone who will be no doubt 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: some experienced in this role and a guy who has 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: been around now for sometime seven and a half years. 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: I believe he understands the issues. He understands what is 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: at stake here. He understands all of that. And Chris 46 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: Bassett in talking to me last night after this vote 47 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: went down, when bruce Meyer was elected unanimously by the players, 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: Bassett made the point that the union is going to 49 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: be more transparent within now to the players from the leadership, 50 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: and he believes that will help. So we'll see how 51 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: this all transpires, but it's in terms of the union strategy. 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: In terms of the union's approach, I expect nothing to change, 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: if anything, from what they are saying about how they 54 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: will now operate internally. Perhaps they will be stronger. 55 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: Ken how important was it in your opinion to make 56 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: sure that they went with somebody within the organization. Bruce 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: Meyer obviously joined the Major League Baseball Players Association in 58 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. It was the second in command under Tony Clark, 59 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: so he knows the ways of the world in terms 60 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: of what's been going on with the union for many 61 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: years now. And I think the timing of this being 62 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: nine months away from a potential stoppage. It's important to 63 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: have somebody internally that has already been within the fabric 64 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: of the union, so that's not a distraction all. 65 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: And I totally agree, and in many ways, there was 66 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: no other choice. There certainly was no way, in my opinion, 67 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: that they could have gone outside and hired someone from 68 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: beyond the baseball world to go be the head of 69 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: the Baseball Union. And the reason I say that is 70 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: the baseball history of labor negotiations, the Baseball particular labor negotiations. 71 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: It's a world done to its own. It is not 72 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: something you can bring in or not a situation where 73 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: you can bring in someone from the outside and expect 74 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: that person to understand right away and grasp the issues 75 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: and the history and all of the acrimony that has 76 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: taken place over what five plus decades now. So from 77 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: that perspective alone, Bruce Meyer was clearly the right choice. 78 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: Now he is the interim executive director, and depending upon 79 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: how this CBA negotiation turns out, they will then determine 80 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: if he is the permanent director or if they then 81 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: want to go outside. If you do it at that point, 82 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: after a CBA is in place and you've got four 83 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: or five years, Okay, someone can pick it up. Bruce 84 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: Meyer had to learn all of these things when he 85 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: came over from the NHL. I believe so yeah, that 86 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: all is a factor here and certainly was a reason 87 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: why the players elected Meyer. And I thought also what 88 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: Bassett said kind of vaguely, but I thought I understood 89 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: he was saying about bruce Meyer and Matt Nussbaum, the 90 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: union's general counsel who was appointed to interim deputy executive director. 91 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: He said, those guys have had the players backs during 92 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: this FBI investigation. They have done things the right way. 93 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: Evidently a lot of players felt Tony Clark wasn't doing 94 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: things the right way, both within the way he was 95 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: operating the union, whether he's guilty of a crime or not, 96 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: and of course whether he was or the way he 97 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: was leading the union. So from that perspective, the players 98 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: seem pretty comfortable with this as a whole. You're going 99 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: to always have people who are not happy, and as 100 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: I wrote, some people don't like bruce Meyer, even within 101 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: the player population and even within the union, but they 102 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: go forward. Now. The timing was unfortunate, but we're still 103 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: a long ways away from this really getting interesting. 104 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: Ken bruce Meyer, of course, is known as a labor negotiator, 105 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: a labor lawyer knows that type of law inside and out. 106 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: How important is it at this point in where the 107 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: union is to have somebody that is a labor negotiator 108 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: versus somebody that was a former player like Tony Clark was. 109 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: Obviously bruce Meyer is the interim executive director, Mike Nesbaum 110 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: the interim deputy executive director. How important is it to 111 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 3: have labor negotiation at the top of the union. And moreover, 112 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: do the players need to kind does bruce Meyer kind 113 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: of need to win these players over that wanted him 114 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: ousted about two years ago? 115 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: It's important to have a labor negotiator at the top. 116 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: Tony Clark was the first former player to lead the union, 117 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: after Marvin Miller, Donald Fear and Michael Wiener, all attorneys 118 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: preceded him. And yes, it seems to me that that 119 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: person should be an attorney, a labor lawyer, someone who 120 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: understands the ins and outs of that part of it. Now. 121 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: Tony Clark had his own skills as a leader of 122 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: the union, mostly in the way he related to players 123 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: as he could as a former player. Himself. What I 124 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: wrote today is that Bruce Meyer, he has led, to 125 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 1: a certain degrees, led his staff. He has led labor 126 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: negotiations with baseball, but he hasn't had to lead in 127 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: this manner. He has to lead now in a grander manner. 128 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: And yes, a lot of you're right. There was an 129 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: attempted coup two years ago. It wasn't all the players, 130 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: but it was a significant number, at least a significant 131 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: number for this to become an issue. And even in 132 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: the last few days there have been people who have said, 133 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure this is the way we should go. 134 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: I know the vote was unanimous, but there have been 135 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: some dissenters. So he's going to have to grow into 136 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: that part of the role. He certainly can negotiate, that's 137 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: what he does, but there is a distinction between being 138 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: the lead negotiator and the leader of the entire union. 139 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: Definitely some interesting times within the Major League Baseball Players Association. 140 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: Can I appreciate the insight. Let's move on to some baseball, 141 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: shall we brave? Spencer Schwellenbach underwent elbow cleanup on Wednesday, 142 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: and Hurston Waldrop will undergo similar a similar procedure on Monday. 143 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: Of course, we're talking about the Braves here. What does 144 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: this mean for this club? 145 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: It's not good news and the Braves. If you remember, 146 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: at the start of the offseason, what alex Anthopolis, that 147 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: president Baseball Operations, has talked about is finding a pitcher 148 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: who could be a playoff starter, someone to start a 149 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: playoff game. They have not acquired that person, and that 150 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: was when they were healthy, when they were still looking 151 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: for that type of pitcher. Now, Spencer Schellenback Schwellenback, I'm sorry, 152 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: was arguably their number two starter, while Stryder comes off 153 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: the surgery and is still kind of finding himself. That's 154 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: a huge loss. Hurston Waldrop a little less of a loss. 155 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Not that he didn't show great things last season. He did, 156 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: but he had options left. Bryce Elder does not have 157 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: options left. Joey Wentz does not have options left. Hurston 158 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: Waldrip had an uphill fight to make the team. Just 159 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: from that perspective alone, forget talent ability and even performance. 160 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: We all know how it works when a player has 161 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: options left versus players who don't, that player has an 162 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: uphill battle. So obviously you don't want to see any 163 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: pitcher go down, but Schwellenbach is perhaps the bigger blow. Now, 164 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: where are they with this, Let's take a look at 165 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: their starting rotation options, because it's still an interesting group, 166 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: but it's not necessarily a group that you thought was 167 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: as good as before Sale Strider and Lopez, Good, grand 168 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: Holds Good. Bryce Elder now he is the interesting guy. 169 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: His velo jumped about two miles in September. He was 170 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: better in September. He's not a hard thrower, but they 171 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: feel perhaps that he can hold this down and hold 172 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: it down in a way that at least buys them 173 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: some time. And if they have the offensive year that 174 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: they anticipated last year and didn't get with out a 175 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: Kunya and without Profar to start the season, then maybe 176 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: they'll get back to a team that is indeed a threat, 177 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: even with these injuries that they're facing. Now. The question 178 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: fans might have, question I have, frankly, is why don't 179 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: the Braves just go sign Lucas Giolito for Zach Littel 180 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: or even Max Scherzer. And obviously that still can happen, 181 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: and maybe that is something they will look at. But 182 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: with the exception of Schurzer, at least in his past, 183 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: those are not top of the rotation starters, and the 184 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: Braves might argue for a certain price that they're not 185 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: worth even more than Bryce Elder would be kind of 186 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: at a minimum salary. So I'm not so sure they're 187 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: going to go in that direction. But those pitchers still 188 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: are out there, and one more injury, I will say this, 189 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: the Braves are gonna have no choice. 190 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: The Brave's not the only ones Ken dealing with some injuries. 191 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: Let's focus on the Baltimore Orioles in the American League. Now, 192 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 3: Jordan Westburg is not participating in any sort of baseball 193 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: activities for the O's the Baltimore Banners, Andy Coska saying 194 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: Westburg went for imaging on his elbow. That's the last 195 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 3: thing that this club needs, Ken, it is. 196 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: He's a huge part of what they do, and of 197 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: course he missed a lot of time last year and 198 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: that hurt them, no question about it. Now, first off, 199 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: with Westburg, we need to find out what exactly is wrong. 200 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: Is it the oblique is it the elbow as Andy 201 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: Coska is perhaps suggesting here, And if it's the elbow, 202 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: well then what are we looking at? How long is 203 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: he going to be out? Now? The Orioles are in 204 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: somewhat of a protected position in that they have Kobe Mayo, 205 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: and Kobe Mayo was a guy that was a top prospect, 206 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: top twenty prospect in the game as of a year ago. 207 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: Didn't have a great year at least in Baltimore in 208 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: the major leagues, but is a guy that certainly would 209 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: benefit from a chance, And if Westburg is out for 210 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: any length of time, he's going to get that chance. 211 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: So they have options here if Westburg is out. But again, 212 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: Westburg was part of their young fabric, part of the 213 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: reason why a lot of us believe this team was 214 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: going to be set up well for the present and 215 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: the future. They need him, and Kobe Mayo may turn 216 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: out to be even better than Westburg, but we don't 217 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: know that right now. He's still a prospect. 218 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: Ken. Do you think that the Orioles are gonna end 219 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 3: up having a right handed hitting logjam when perhaps Westburg 220 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: is healthy, when Jackson Holliday who's dealing with the hamlet 221 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: bone injury and the surgery there when he comes back, 222 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: is that something to look at now or is that 223 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: a down the road type of problem. 224 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: Alanna, It's certainly a possibility, But these guys are not 225 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: healthy right now. Jack'son holiday, not healthy, George Westburg not healthy. 226 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: So that logjam and I actually wrote about this, I 227 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: believe last week. The logjam was poss because of Mayo's 228 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: presence and because Ryan Mountcastle is still on this team 229 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: first basement behind Pete Alonzo. It seems like there's no 230 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: place for him, but as a DH first base type, Yeah, 231 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: maybe there is with these injuries. So obviously you're right 232 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: alon It if everybody ever gets healthy. Yeah, they've got 233 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: a log jam. And they've even explored trades for Mayo 234 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: and Mountcastle, but with Westbrook possibly out now, they've got 235 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: to probably hold Yeah. 236 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: I adapt very seriously that there's ever a time, Ken Rosenthal, 237 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: when all twenty six guys on the twenty six man 238 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: roster are healthy and ready to go, that would be 239 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 3: quite the problem to have. All Right, coming up here 240 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal, it's your opportunity to 241 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 3: ask Ken some questions. 242 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: We'll be back with Grill and Ken right after this. 243 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal. 244 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: Time now to get some questions in for Ken and 245 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 3: the first one Ken that we're going to start with 246 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: is regarding Patrick Orbin or John Gray in free agency? 247 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 3: Is there any news about either of those guys, And 248 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: of course this gentleman or person says that he's wishing 249 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: them best of luck. 250 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: Both former Texas Rangers, and to be perfectly honest, I 251 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: have not heard anything about either of them so far 252 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: this offseason and into spring training. Do I expect they'll 253 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: be in camp. I'm not sure about Gray's health for starters, 254 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: and Corbin, sure, I would think that some team would 255 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: at least sign him to a minor league contract, But 256 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: at the same time, he's still out there. 257 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: What about Lucas Giolito, that's a question just coming from me. 258 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: Ken. 259 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: Are you surprised that he's still out there looking for 260 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 3: a job? 261 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: I am. He was hurt at the end of last season, 262 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: so I don't know what his medicals look like, and 263 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: perhaps that's a factor. Perhaps he is asking more than 264 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: teams are willing to pay him. That probably is what's 265 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: going on here. It's what always is going on when 266 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: a player lingers into free agency. But I would expect 267 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: he is going to sign, and probably sign fairly soon. 268 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: All right, National League West News A question about Tony Vittello. 269 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: The new manager, of course, of the San Francisco Giants, 270 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: who's already kind of making some waves ken, if you will, 271 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: in terms of media and. 272 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: Those types of questions. 273 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: All right, So, Tony Vittello, what first, before we get 274 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: to the question itself, what has been your impression of 275 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: him so far in the first couple of weeks, if 276 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: you will, being the Giants manager. 277 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: Well, I was around the Giants two days, the first 278 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: day they had pitchers and catchers working out, and then 279 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: a couple of days later to interview Tony Vitello for Fox, 280 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: And we'll have that interview later at some point during 281 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: the season. He is obviously a guy who is new 282 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: to the major league experience. He is not new to 283 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: baseball and competitive baseball, and he did it at a 284 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: high level at Tennessee. We all know that the comments 285 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: that he made in the press conference the other day. 286 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: He started his press conference is daily news briefing with 287 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: reporters by talking about the fact that it got out 288 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: that he was going to be perhaps the Giants manager 289 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: before maybe he wanted it to get out. Now. I 290 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: was one of the people who wrote that story with 291 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: Brick Gioli and Andrew Baggerley and what we wrote at 292 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: the time was that the Giants were closing in on 293 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: the hiring of Vtello. We didn't write that he had 294 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: an offer. We just wrote that he was the target. 295 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: He was the guy. Now. I haven't spoken specifically to 296 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: Tony Bytello about this. He didn't bring it up to me, 297 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: but if he does, I will tell him. Listen, this 298 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: is what we were hearing. And I know the timing 299 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: probably didn't work out too well for him. Maybe he 300 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: had informed players and coaches at Tennessee and even family 301 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: members people he was close with about how this was 302 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: going where it was going, but we were hearing it, 303 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: and we were hearing it from credible enough sources to 304 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: of course publish. Of course he gets named the Giants 305 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: manager as well, so obviously we were on the right track. 306 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: He might not have liked the timing, but our obligation 307 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: is to our readers, and that is what we did there. 308 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: Okay, let's get to the actual question in terms of 309 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: Grill and Ken here regarding Tony Vittello. If we could 310 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 3: put that up momentarily, I'd appreciate that very much. All right, 311 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: So Sarah Harmon wants to know, Ken, what did you 312 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: think of the comments by Tony Vittel earlier this week 313 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: and the timing of the offer. 314 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: So it's along the same lines. 315 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: Of what that's what I'm talking about. A. Yeah, that's 316 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: what I'm referring to. That was his complaint, right that 317 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: the report about the offer, or it wasn't even a 318 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: report about an offer, it was a report about the 319 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: Giants closing in was in his mind premature, and okay, 320 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: he can feel that way, but again, we had what 321 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: we had and we felt compelled to publish, and that 322 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: is why we published. 323 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 3: Okay, very good. Next question here on Grill and Ken. 324 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: Spring training can also be extension season, but should we 325 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 3: expect less than usual over the next few weeks due 326 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: to the incoming labor dispute? 327 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: Fair question? 328 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: Are there any players teams we should keep an eye on? 329 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: This is from Mike G fifteen. 330 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: Mike G fifteen, To be perfectly honest, I have not 331 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: been focused on extensions. I am sure we will see some, 332 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: even with the looming dispute in twenty seven and the 333 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: possibility of games being canceled. We've seen free agents signed 334 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: contracts beyond and including twenty seven, of course, so I 335 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: don't know that it would be any different in the 336 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: extension market, perhaps a little bit different. But every spring, 337 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: toward the end of spring, we do hear of extensions, 338 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that will be the case again this spring. 339 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was surprised to hear of the Max Munsey 340 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 3: extension when that happened. Obviously, this is a guy that 341 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: even said, you know, he left some money on the table, 342 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: but Los Angeles is the place that he wants to be. 343 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: All right, coming up after the break, we're going to 344 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: be talking about our dudes and dorks. 345 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: Of the week. 346 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: We'll be right back, bet, I'm jam account holders today. 347 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: How about any sport parlay boost token. You can score 348 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 4: a bigger payout if your wager with that token. Hits 349 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 4: tokens can be used on parlays and on same game parlays. 350 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: Gambling problem or concerned, there's help called one eight hundred gambler. 351 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: Dude, Dude, dude, this. 352 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 3: Is always a fun time. I love that we can 353 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: point the fingers. Although we have named ourselves dude and 354 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 3: dorks of the way, well, definitely dorks of the week 355 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: at a certain point, okay, we will start with dude 356 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: and Ken you have the honors. 357 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: Who is your Dude of the. 358 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: Week Bobby Wick Junior, and I wrote about him earlier 359 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: this week. The story came out the same day that 360 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: all hell broke loose with the Union, so I don't 361 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: know that a lot of people read it, but the 362 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: story was about how three years ago Bobby Wick Junior 363 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: was the kid on Team USA in the World Baseball Classic. 364 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: It was the youngest member of the team. He had 365 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: only one full season in the major leagues. He was 366 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: kind of the little brother, and yet even at that time, 367 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: the other players on the team could see how talented 368 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: he was. They loved him because he was mature, he 369 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: was humble, and all of that. Well, now twenty twenty 370 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: six WBC, Bobby Wick Junior will be at the center 371 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: of it all as Team USA starting shortstop. It's just 372 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: kind of a cool evolution. We see it all the 373 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: time in our sport, and it's his moment now. 374 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 3: No question, one of the best shortstops in the game 375 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: and one of the best people as an ambassador of 376 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 3: urgury a game. My Dude of the Week is Ozzy 377 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: Alby's He loves fish ken I love dogs. 378 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: Ozzie Albi's loves fish. Well. 379 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: He had some time in this offseason, he went to 380 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 3: a local elementary school and taught these young kids how 381 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: to properly take care of some fish in a tank. 382 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 3: So took time out of his day. He set up 383 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 3: the tank, he set up all the fish. He talked 384 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: to them about the care of not only taking care 385 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: of the fish itself, but the proper cleaning of the tank. 386 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 3: And they get to keep it, you know, those fishes 387 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: kind of their class pets. So kind of a nice 388 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 3: entree into how to take some responsibility for animals. And 389 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: I thought that was really sweet of Ozzy Alby's to 390 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: take one of his passions and spread it in the 391 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 3: Atlanta community. 392 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 2: All right, time now for Dork of the. 393 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: Week's funny can We have unfortunately a lot to choose 394 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: from this week, And it's an interesting thing if you 395 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 3: take a look at this text thread that you and 396 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 3: I had with our producer and director Jeremy Meyer early 397 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: on in this week, you had said that you were 398 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: claiming Sam Kennedy and Tom Werner as dorks of the 399 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: week right now. You said, I'm taking them right now, 400 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: And of course I laughed because I understand why because 401 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: of the comments that they made about Raphael Devers and 402 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 3: then our producer Jeremy says, hi bar to clear for 403 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: the rest of the week. 404 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: Well he cleared it. Who's your due to the. 405 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: Week dork of the Week Tony Clark, And yes he 406 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: did clear the bar. And what was so surprising to 407 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: me about what happened here was that I always thought 408 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: and I always heard that Tony Clark, for whatever his 409 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: faults might be as the head of the union, was 410 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: a man of integrity. And there have been a lot 411 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: of questions raised about his integrity even before the news 412 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: of his resignation, Questions about the way he was handling 413 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: the union's finances. A whistleblower kind of came out and 414 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: accused him of a number of things a few years ago, 415 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: and then the FBI investigation commenced. Now on top of that, 416 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: we have the reported inappropriate relationship with his sister in law, 417 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: confirmed by The Athletic, first reported by ESPN that led 418 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: to his resignation. All of these things combined, Yes, he 419 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: tops Sam Kennedy and Tom Werner. Yes he is, and 420 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: I say this sadly the dork of the Week. 421 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand completely. 422 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 3: It was a shock to all of us that know 423 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: Tony Clark and you know obviously care about this this 424 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 3: great game. My dork of the week once again is 425 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: the Angels, not for what they're doing on the field, Ken, 426 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: but what they're doing to their our colleagues there are 427 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: they're television partners. They are not televising a single spring 428 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: training game on television. Ratt BOLLINGERD tweeting the Angels will 429 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 3: not televise any of their Cactus League games, the club announced, 430 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: but they will be on Angels Radio, so you can 431 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: still if you're not here in Tempe to get the 432 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: Angels game in person, you can hear it on the radio. 433 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: But what does this say to you, Ken? That not, 434 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: as I understand, they don't have to televise all thirty 435 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 3: or thirty two or whatever it is, but to not 436 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 3: televise a single spring training game, it just seems another 437 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: lazy approach by the Angels. 438 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't know all the details here, Alana, but you're 439 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: keeping your product away from your fans. And if the 440 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: idea of spring training and televising spring training games is 441 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: to get people excited for the regular season, well the 442 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: Angels are failing in that regard. Now their team isn't 443 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: all that exciting to begin with so okay, But that's 444 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: the point. The televising of spring training games is largely promotional. 445 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 1: It gives fans an appetite, gets them ready for the season, 446 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: gets people interested in some of the new players that 447 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: you might have. So from that perspective, I don't understand 448 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: what the Angels are doing. Again, I don't know all 449 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: the particulars, the ins and outs of the television arrangement, 450 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: but not to have any spring training games televised not good. 451 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: And it also, as you mentioned, takes the product away 452 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: from the fan base. But it also, you know, if 453 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: the broadcasters are not here, it takes away their opportunity 454 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 3: to interact with the players and start thinking of some 455 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 3: storylines and you know, establish those relationships, perhaps with new players. 456 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 3: It's just unfortunate all the way around. I'm assuming it's 457 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: a cost cutting measure, but I'm not certain about that, Ken. 458 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: I am. 459 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 3: The reason I look like I'm in jail is because 460 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 3: I'm not at home. I'm actually at Campbell Back Ranch. 461 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: I'm at the Dodgers camp today, and we're also doing 462 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: a foul Territory from the Dodgers camp tomorrow. So a 463 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: couple of things that I'm noticing here Tao ta Oscar 464 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: Hernandez kind of the best shape of his life. And 465 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 3: also I wanted to get your thoughts on Mookie Bets 466 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: perhaps in the three hole, Dave Roberts saying that he 467 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: could possibly be there, Kyle Tucker in the two hole 468 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: of quotes show Hay leading off formidable lineup, but your 469 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: thoughts about Mooky in the three hole? 470 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: First off, ta Oscar Alana, Yes, it's the best shape 471 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: of his life. Whatever, But he did lose twelve pounds, 472 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: I believe, and he knew that last year his play 473 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: in right field was not up to par. He's moving 474 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: to left with Kyle Tucker coming in to play right, 475 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: And to me, it's encouraging a guy like Ti Oscar, 476 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: who is a veteran who has a contract, who could 477 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: conceivably rest on whatever laurels he has acquired. He could 478 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: do that, and he's not doing that. He obviously is 479 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: driven to be better and that is a very good 480 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,239 Speaker 1: sign for the Dodgers. This is a talented dude and 481 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: a huge part of what they do now. As for 482 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: the liup, Mookie Bets hitting third. This is a fascinating 483 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: decision that Dave Roberts faced, and it's a fascinating outcome 484 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: as well. Rookie Betts, of course, is coming off one 485 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: of his worst offensive years, maybe his worst, and of 486 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: course what happened was he got sick early, never seemed 487 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: to catch up. We all know that. But Dave Roberts 488 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: is essentially saying, here, Lookie is still our guy. He 489 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: is still a huge part of what we do. He 490 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: was always going to bat in the top four, we 491 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: knew that. But the three spot, that's a spot of 492 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: great responsibility. And it just seems that Roberts is showing 493 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in Bets, and probably well placed 494 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: confidence because of who Mookie Bets is and how driven 495 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: he is to succeed. You see the lineup right there now, 496 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: it was always going to be a case where you 497 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: had two left handed hitters back to back among the 498 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: top four. With those four guys, you couldn't avoid it. 499 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: But Shohy and Tucker back to back. Tucker can handle 500 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: lefties just fine. And then Mookie Freeman, Will Smith, Max Munsey, Texts, 501 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 1: Oscar hernandez Andy pae Has and Tommy Edmund went healthy. 502 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: He's not going to be healthy to start the season. 503 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: It's a formidable group, and if ta Oscar is back 504 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: to being what he has been, if Mooki returns to 505 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: something close to the old Mookie Bets, then with the 506 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: addition of Kyle Tucker, you're looking at perhaps and I 507 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: say perhaps, which you do not know how this is 508 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: going to turn out, perhaps even more dynamic offense than 509 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: we've seen from the Dodgers in their back to back 510 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: World Series championship years. 511 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: Which is hard to believe. 512 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: Quickly before we say goodbye, Ken, Tommy Edmund not ready 513 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 3: for opening day, Who do you see getting the majority 514 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 3: of playing time at second base for la. 515 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: Unclear to me a lotta what do you think on 516 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: that one? 517 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: I can see a lot of Hessan Kim honestly. 518 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: There. 519 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: They want to get him some more at bats. They 520 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: want to see what he can do opportunity. Obviously, if 521 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: Tommy Edmund's not back for opening day, Alex call getting 522 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: some more opportunities in the outfield to spell some of 523 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: the guys in the outfield as far as Taoskar and 524 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 3: Tucker and Pa Haz. But I think Hessan Kim gets 525 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 3: the majority of time at second. 526 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: Base, and Rojas will get some time too, I'm sure. 527 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: So they're as always in decent shape. 528 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, they are in decent shape, and so are you. 529 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 3: Ken Rosenal, have a great time. I believe you're heading 530 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 3: to what Red Sox tomorrow? Is that what you're saying. 531 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm flying to Florida today and will be at 532 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: Red Sox camp tomorrow. Ten days in Florida coming up. 533 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: Okay, and I will be back at Dodgers' camp tomorrow borrow, 534 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 3: and then of course, Ken, we'll be back on Fair 535 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 3: Territory on Monday. Have a great weekend, everybody. Thanks for 536 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,239 Speaker 3: being with us. 537 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 2: Take care,