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Speaker 1: Oh, I was going to ask Taylor. We talked about narratives.

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Speaker 1: Are there any that you've had to outgrow in your career?

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Speaker 2: Hmm?

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Speaker 3: I mean the one that I always.

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Speaker 4: Think about is, like I do know obviously, I have

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Speaker 4: had different viral moments in my career, or people have

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Speaker 4: said things that are maybe a little outlandish, and I

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Speaker 4: know that the narrative is, oh my gosh, they get

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Speaker 4: in front of Taylor and they can't help themselves. And

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Speaker 4: I don't agree with that. I think it's because I

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Speaker 4: asked a good question. I think it's because I got

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Speaker 4: them to think about something in a way maybe they

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Speaker 4: haven't yet. There's a lot of people that do interviews,

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Speaker 4: yet when people sit down with me, they talk about

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Speaker 4: something that they have not yet, and that is a

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Speaker 4: credit to I think how comfortable I may people feel,

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Speaker 4: how well I listen, and the way that I ask questions.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that for any person that's on television.

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Speaker 4: There is an entire package of what makes them a personality, obviously,

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Speaker 4: but it's all about how you know how to work

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Speaker 4: with people. So I would say that's that's a narrative

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Speaker 4: that I have. It doesn't bother me, but that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: For sure narrative.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to say?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's that? Thank Josh?

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Speaker 2: I was just saying that because literally, as as soon

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Speaker 2: as I welcome Taylor works.

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Speaker 3: At a podcast, Yeah said who they're lying to you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I brought up that label.

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Speaker 4: So see how hard it is to get out of

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Speaker 4: your narratives. But it's like, yeah, it doesn't matter the

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Speaker 4: you know, the two Emmy noms.

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Speaker 3: That's a host on Amazon.

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Speaker 4: I do both football, NFL and NBA, cover every sports,

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Speaker 4: sideline host anchor. I need to do everything. But you know,

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Speaker 4: she's just pretty.

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Speaker 5: It's cool.

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Speaker 1: I mean we were talking about before the show started

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Speaker 1: how you had literally commented on his Instagram with your

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Speaker 1: phone number trying to get an interviewer, Scooper, whoever it was.

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Speaker 1: And now you're playing at really high level. You're doing

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Speaker 1: what you do at really high levels.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Back in like either twenty twelve or twenty thirteen, I

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Speaker 4: was at University of Illinois covering recruiting. Don't talk about

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Speaker 4: my school, very highly tided recruit here the one and

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Speaker 4: only Jalen Brunson, and Illinois was on his final list,

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Speaker 4: although he was never going to go there, but it

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Speaker 4: to me how much college fans cared about recruiting. I

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Speaker 4: was like, this can be my Niche like I can

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Speaker 4: the story. And Jalen was right in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: So me like.

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Speaker 4: Sophomore year either my software or junior year. I went

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Speaker 4: to Jalen's photo when I commented, like, I would love

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Speaker 4: to interview you about recruiting. I'm here at Illinois if

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Speaker 4: you don't mind shooting me a text, I'd love to

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Speaker 4: chat with you. And he did, and that's how I

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Speaker 4: got to know Jalen. How I got to know his parents.

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Speaker 4: Actually had such a nice moment with your dad Rick

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Speaker 4: at the game. He came up to me and said,

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Speaker 4: you know, I remember when you used to talk to

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Speaker 4: me to talk to Jalen, and now y'all talk.

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Speaker 3: You don't even tell me.

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Speaker 4: So I do want to say something about narratives though

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Speaker 4: this actually this is about this.

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Speaker 3: Is about me.

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Speaker 4: It is so important and something that I have learned,

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Speaker 4: like throughout my career, how like interviews and clips and

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Speaker 4: all of these things like shape people's narratives and like

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Speaker 4: the large responsibility that is on the media when it

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Speaker 4: comes to the things that you decide to like clip

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Speaker 4: and put out.

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Speaker 3: It's funny.

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Speaker 4: When I was on the way over here, I was like,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm late, even though it was like

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Speaker 4: twenty minutes, and I was thinking about the latest interview

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Speaker 4: I've ever had, which was Michael Beasley. He was easy

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Speaker 4: three hours late to the interview, but it was more

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Speaker 4: than worth it.

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Speaker 3: Like it was easily.

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Speaker 4: It was probably my first like real viral moment that

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Speaker 4: I have had in terms of an interview when it

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Speaker 4: was hilarious and.

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Speaker 3: We both just looked really silly throughout it.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about this whole ten percent of our brain situation.

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Speaker 4: But I just learned so many things through that moment

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Speaker 4: because that entire interview that was maybe ten ten minutes

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Speaker 4: everybody will still sometimes see him as like this pothead

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Speaker 4: and they don't give him room to grow out of it,

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Speaker 4: and that his perception is unfair.

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Speaker 3: He gets like really vulnerable.

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Speaker 4: It's a really great interview from him in terms of

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Speaker 4: just his life and what he wants from it. But

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Speaker 4: it all became about that moment with the brain, and

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Speaker 4: people were making those like jokes about him, even though

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Speaker 4: the rest of the interview is him saying like, that's

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Speaker 4: not who I am. And it was just a lesson

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Speaker 4: to me about how hard those narratives are because people

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Speaker 4: are always looking for their thought to be confirmed, and

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Speaker 4: so when you're putting these clips out, you want to

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Speaker 4: have the full breath of what somebody said so that

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Speaker 4: they don't get pigeonholed into this thing that is just unfair,

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Speaker 4: if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: But shout out to Michael Beasley.

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Speaker 4: He's great, gave me a great interview and like one

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Speaker 4: of the best moments that I've probably had in terms

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Speaker 4: of virality.

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Speaker 2: He might be one of the most if one for sure,

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Speaker 2: one of, if not the most talented like person with

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Speaker 2: a basketball I've ever seen. Just absurd.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you need a.

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Speaker 2: Bucket, Like just give him the ball and get out

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Speaker 2: the way.

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Speaker 3: Athletic as hell. That was my dude, Look, he's great.

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Speaker 2: That was my second year. Yeah, that's my second year.

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Speaker 2: We were teammates. The only thing, the only thing, one

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Speaker 2: of the funniest things I will say about him though,

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Speaker 2: So we're probably game probably like thirty five forty halfway

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Speaker 2: through the season. We go you know how you watch

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Speaker 2: film before practice, right, so we just had a game.

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Speaker 2: We got into the film room, and then obviously we

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Speaker 2: also you know, calling him Bees, Mike whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: And then I guess someone told Luke Wall and he

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Speaker 2: was coach. He was like, yeah, he doesn't like you know,

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Speaker 2: being called like bees or whatever or like Mike or whatever.

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Speaker 2: So he was like, what do you want to be called? Like,

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Speaker 2: I'll just call me Paul. I know the middle name

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Speaker 2: was Paul, so like it was like halfway through the season, like.

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Speaker 3: Switch names.

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Speaker 2: But when I tell you a bucket, I see him

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Speaker 2: every summer. We have the same ro.

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Speaker 3: Problem. Shut my dude, Shut out Paul.

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